If you have a "rough" yard or need to cut short brush, the lawnmower shroud collects debris and evantually causes the belt to slip. Be sure to check for debris between the deck and shroud before deciding to replace the belt. Couple of other things... You do not need to remove that shroud to replace the belt as long as you can guide the belt through the opening, which will be almost always. ALso, be VERY careful when disconnecting the tension spring for the clutch to make sure that the little S shaped hook holding the spring to the lawnmower does not fall out. It is very hard to reinstall with the clutch and axle in place.
Thanks for the video. You convinced me that I am not qualified to get this done without much yelling, pounding, and bleeding. Will take it to a professional and save myself a mental breakdown.
I had an issue with the self propel last year. Went through the majority of this process and now know all I did wrong. Ha! Ended up having debris stuck and had to pay to have that sorted. I'm still mad I couldn't repair that issues. Next time I will now that I've found you. Thanks!
Now you know CP. Please let me know if you have any other issues. If I see a common and or reoccurring problem with lawn mowers I will most likely a video about it so very comment and view helps. Thanks for watching CP.
I had her fixed in 40 minutes..Best mower I ever owned. Honda produces a lot of quality . Still running like rnew .just gotta do the maintenance. My nephew is a Honda auto mechanic certified... swears by Honda. Your videos are top-notch.
These are high quality instructional videos. I love watching them! Consequently, I’d love to see a spin-off of this channel to showcase you skills on the grill. Maybe “Kipp’s Backyard Kitchen “ or “Dad’s Grill” or “Grillin’ with Kipp” 😊IJS
Pretty straightforward. I’ve removed that shroud a few times for end-of-season maintenance, not that big of a deal after you’ve done it a few times. Well done, thanks! 👍👍
Yeah, I have beat the hell out of that adapter. I’ve sprayed it with penetrant. I put a torch to it until it was red hot and then beat it. That son of a biscuit will not come off. Air Hammer Hell!!
such a great video thank you! quick question I got one of these mowers and the blades are hitting the left side of the deck I got it used and they didn't tell me they hit anything. Any idea what I should look for in my case?
I have the same model and recently the self propel control got very stiff, it actually propels but very soon smoke starts coming from the back left handside. Is it related to drive belt? My mower is just one year old and still under warranty, would rather take care of it myself than take it to a service center.
Does it continue to smoke after reaching operating temperature? or does it briefly blow smoke? A small "puff" of smoke out of the exhaust is normal. I would double check the oil level first it and adjust accordingly till the oil level is reading between the full line and the low line on the dipstick. Remember do not screw the oil dipstick all the way in when checking the oil level.
As far as the smart drive being very stiff clean under the deck and make sure there's not excessive amount of grass build up around the transmission area, if underneath the deck is clean then refer to the owner's manual about adjusting the smart drive cable.
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 Smoke seems to be coming from where the transmission is, I got scared and shut the engine off and didn't wait till the operating temp is reached. Also it only comes out when I use the smart drive. If the engine is just running without being propelled no smoke.
Thanks for the video but that's alot more work than what i want to deal with. Just a question though. I just bought my new mower on May 2nd. I don't even have the initial 5 hours on it yet and the smart drive stopped working. The belt seems way to loose but not broken and the cable looks ok still. Any thoughts before i call the warranty department? I'm not working on a brand new 600 dollar mower. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
You may just need to adjust the drive cable. Mine loosened because the lock nut had come loose. It is an older mower, but it could be the breakin on the unit caused yours to come loose some or it may just need tightening as the belts may stretch. Just my guesses...
How did you take the blade bracket on the rotor off? There’s a cut in the video and either you did something I’m not doing, or mine is stuck… any help greatly appreciated!! Love the rest of the vid!
Welp, I hadn’t taken the shroud off due to the disclaimer, but after some additional attempts with the blade bracket, I decided to try that. Long story short, I was able to resolve my issue without having to remove the bracket. Thanks again for the vid, you helped me out BIG TIME today!! 😊
I know this is the "correct" way to replace the drive belt. But if you remove the rear axle completely (4 bolts snd the spring) and fish the belt through, this job is very easy and takes less than 10. Minutes total.. and almost no swearing.
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 anything is better than nothing. When I bought my Honda I took it off and greased it. Including drive pulley for self propel.
Huge pry bar LOL! Since the Honda GCV170 is still fairly new I haven't had to remove the crankshaft yet. I've only had to reseal the valve cover so far.
Guys… my lawn mower self propelled stopped today. Smelled like rubber burning. As some folks I was cutting low. Are these symptoms of the same issue? Thanks
Currently I have five Honda branded Honda lawn mowers thrown away for reasons, I'm assuming, like valve lash, broken drive belt and or water in the carb. This video is much appreciated and worth subscribing to which I've done. I've heard that Honda is stopping production of gasoline powered lawn mowers from another channel and was wondering what your take on that is.
If they are JIS I didn't notice, I believe their 5/16 tapping screws and the access screw for the pilot jet is 5x6mm. PRO TIP: Models ending with three-letter type ex: (HRN216~VKA~) use engines made in Japan. Models ending with four-letter type ex: (HRN216~VKAA~) use engines made in the U.S.A.
My self propell stopped working and I suspect debris which is the cause. Is there a way I can check and remove the debris without having to remove all the parts? Generally where would the debris be stuck at? I'm assuming near the transmitted area in the back?
LOL, you got this Jacob. Whenever I first acquire a new/used mower I always apply anti-seize grease to the blade adapter and or crank shaft. I sometimes use a very LIGHT DUTY! cordless auto/air hammer to vibrate the adapter loose. PRO TIP: Apply heat or torch to help loosen rusted or seize parts, also try soaking rust penetrant overnight and remove rust with wire brush or sandpaper once free.
Great video/camera work. I own a HRR216 that has a similar tranny. On other videos, they show 2 bolts. I don't have them. Do we have to drain/change tranny fluid @ any time? If so, what does it take & how would we DO it. I sub'd & gave u a 👍.
I'm having an issue getting the smart drive cable reattached after the belt is on. I must be doing something wrong. Also, the transmission spring flew off when I detached it as shown in the video, and I had to shake it out of the mower. So frustrating now I can't get it back together :(
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 Just 1 more silly 😜 Question What is belt part number or where we can buy it if you have any suggestions Thanks in advance
Yes, but I don't prefer that method. There are videos out there that show that method. The shroud/shutter removal method show in this video is straight from the Honda HRN216 shop manual. Thanks for watching Easton.
U removed too many components which to a beginner diyer would be too complex. U didn’t have to remove handle for chip director, blade adapter; cover shroud Everything else u did ok
If you have a "rough" yard or need to cut short brush, the lawnmower shroud collects debris and evantually causes the belt to slip. Be sure to check for debris between the deck and shroud before deciding to replace the belt. Couple of other things... You do not need to remove that shroud to replace the belt as long as you can guide the belt through the opening, which will be almost always. ALso, be VERY careful when disconnecting the tension spring for the clutch to make sure that the little S shaped hook holding the spring to the lawnmower does not fall out. It is very hard to reinstall with the clutch and axle in place.
So you can rotate the transmission without removing the shroud?
Scott is correct you do not need to remove the shroud.
Thanks for the video. You convinced me that I am not qualified to get this done without much yelling, pounding, and bleeding. Will take it to a professional and save myself a mental breakdown.
You got this Tim!
Very much helpful video where clear explanation and closer video recording for accurate operation.From Sri Lanka👍
I had an issue with the self propel last year. Went through the majority of this process and now know all I did wrong. Ha! Ended up having debris stuck and had to pay to have that sorted. I'm still mad I couldn't repair that issues. Next time I will now that I've found you. Thanks!
Now you know CP. Please let me know if you have any other issues. If I see a common and or reoccurring problem with lawn mowers I will most likely a video about it so very comment and view helps. Thanks for watching CP.
Outstanding no screwing around... straight up the correct way you show me.
I had her fixed in 40 minutes..Best mower I ever owned. Honda produces a lot of quality . Still running like rnew .just gotta do the maintenance.
My nephew is a Honda auto mechanic certified... swears by Honda. Your videos are top-notch.
These are high quality instructional videos. I love watching them! Consequently, I’d love to see a spin-off of this channel to showcase you skills on the grill. Maybe “Kipp’s Backyard Kitchen “ or “Dad’s Grill” or “Grillin’ with Kipp” 😊IJS
Pretty straightforward. I’ve removed that shroud a few times for end-of-season maintenance, not that big of a deal after you’ve done it a few times. Well done, thanks! 👍👍
Thanks for the feedback big T and thanks for watching.
I had to gorilla glue two rear tabs that broke off cover. Cover is $40
Thanks a lot. Very clear instructions. Wasn't sure if I needed to take the pully off at the transmission to take the belt off. Now I know.
You got this Cyber Wolf Trader! I'm here to help, thanks for watching.
Well covered on all details, yet efficiently presented! 👍
Thanks for your support
Great mower, I race mine in a local competition. I run aftermarket pulley on mine to get it really moving. Also had it dyno tuned. 👍
Thank you for doing this. It was extraordinarily helpful.
Thanks Paul I’m here to share.
Hahaha…… I like how you cut away from showing how you wrestled that cover shroud back in there.
You’re right I did
Love your shop. New friend here. Thanks for your support
Thanks My Green Lawn! this is my shop away from my shop LOL!
Great video. You explained it the simple way. Thanks
Yeah, I have beat the hell out of that adapter. I’ve sprayed it with penetrant. I put a torch to it until it was red hot and then beat it. That son of a biscuit will not come off. Air Hammer Hell!!
Air Hammer!!!!!
such a great video thank you! quick question I got one of these mowers and the blades are hitting the left side of the deck I got it used and they didn't tell me they hit anything. Any idea what I should look for in my case?
Use a dial indicator and make sure the crank shaft isn’t bent. Keep me posted
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 will do thank you
Great video. Thanks for sharing. Very informative.
I have the same model and recently the self propel control got very stiff, it actually propels but very soon smoke starts coming from the back left handside. Is it related to drive belt? My mower is just one year old and still under warranty, would rather take care of it myself than take it to a service center.
Does it continue to smoke after reaching operating temperature? or does it briefly blow smoke? A small "puff" of smoke out of the exhaust is normal. I would double check the oil level first it and adjust accordingly till the oil level is reading between the full line and the low line on the dipstick. Remember do not screw the oil dipstick all the way in when checking the oil level.
As far as the smart drive being very stiff clean under the deck and make sure there's not excessive amount of grass build up around the transmission area, if underneath the deck is clean then refer to the owner's manual about adjusting the smart drive cable.
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 Smoke seems to be coming from where the transmission is, I got scared and shut the engine off and didn't wait till the operating temp is reached. Also it only comes out when I use the smart drive. If the engine is just running without being propelled no smoke.
What size is the belt?
@@nathanespling4301 I honestly don't know. I haven't checked.
Good info, do you have the part number for the drive belt ?? I need it replace at the same when replacing the clutch
PART# 22431-VR8-N03 DESCRIPTION: V-BELT (3L-39.2) SERIAL# 1188436
Great video question what do you use to hold the mower up while you work on it ?
How can you tell if the belt needs to be replaced? Mine is still tight and not stretched.
Thanks for the video but that's alot more work than what i want to deal with. Just a question though. I just bought my new mower on May 2nd. I don't even have the initial 5 hours on it yet and the smart drive stopped working. The belt seems way to loose but not broken and the cable looks ok still. Any thoughts before i call the warranty department? I'm not working on a brand new 600 dollar mower. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
You may just need to adjust the drive cable. Mine loosened because the lock nut had come loose. It is an older mower, but it could be the breakin on the unit caused yours to come loose some or it may just need tightening as the belts may stretch. Just my guesses...
Transmission spring removal? Where’s that little bracket go to that the transmission hooks up to?
I too am having the same problem. Any ideas??
6:35 mark in the video thanks for watching.
If those tabs are not in the slots, is the lever hard to move?
It can be just give it a quick tug.
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 you have been fortunate
Very helpfull mate thank you for your time and information very explanatory,jimmy Australia
Hell yeah!!! Thanks Jimmy from Australia
How did you take the blade bracket on the rotor off? There’s a cut in the video and either you did something I’m not doing, or mine is stuck… any help greatly appreciated!! Love the rest of the vid!
The blade adapter is mostly rusted/seized on the crank shaft you’ll need heat or very very light duty auto hammer to get it off
Wow!! Thanks for the quick response! Thanks a bunch for the feedback. Tried hitting it with some PB blaster… I’ll try those other things though!
You can also try a 2 or 3 jaw or pulley puller just use a old bearing at the tip of the puller so it doesn’t tighten down
Welp, I hadn’t taken the shroud off due to the disclaimer, but after some additional attempts with the blade bracket, I decided to try that. Long story short, I was able to resolve my issue without having to remove the bracket. Thanks again for the vid, you helped me out BIG TIME today!! 😊
Small pry bar can help get the shroud off. The blade bracket doesn't have to come off to change the belt.
Thanks for the video was a huge help
I know this is the "correct" way to replace the drive belt. But if you remove the rear axle completely (4 bolts snd the spring) and fish the belt through, this job is very easy and takes less than 10. Minutes total.. and almost no swearing.
Thanks for the comment and thanks for finding me!
Nice. Is there a mechanism to tighten the belt, or is it replacement only?
Unfortunately, no you can only adjust the smart drive cable.
Why don't you grease the shaft b4 installing the blade adapter? They are hard to come off if they are never removed and get rusted.
I do.
I use caliper grease or whatever's close.
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 anything is better than nothing. When I bought my Honda I took it off and greased it. Including drive pulley for self propel.
How do you replace the crankshaft?
Huge pry bar LOL! Since the Honda GCV170 is still fairly new I haven't had to remove the crankshaft yet. I've only had to reseal the valve cover so far.
Guys… my lawn mower self propelled stopped today. Smelled like rubber burning. As some folks I was cutting low. Are these symptoms of the same issue? Thanks
Currently I have five Honda branded Honda lawn mowers thrown away for reasons, I'm assuming, like valve lash, broken drive belt and or water in the carb. This video is much appreciated and worth subscribing to which I've done. I've heard that Honda is stopping production of gasoline powered lawn mowers from another channel and was wondering what your take on that is.
Hell yeah! Glad I could help
What size of belt does this get replaced with?
PART# 22431-VR8-N03 DESCRIPTION: V-BELT (3L-39.2) SERIAL# 1188436
Are the shroud screws jsi?
Now I know why I could not get that Phillips looking screw for jet on top of carb.
If they are JIS I didn't notice, I believe their 5/16 tapping screws and the access screw for the pilot jet is 5x6mm. PRO TIP: Models ending with three-letter type ex: (HRN216~VKA~) use engines made in Japan. Models ending with four-letter type ex: (HRN216~VKAA~) use engines made in the U.S.A.
I hit a big piece of metal, and now the blades are always engaged. Why would that be?
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Why do you need to remove the handle for the chip mulch selector ?
You don’t. I just replaced mine and I still don’t have any idea why he removed that
My self propell stopped working and I suspect debris which is the cause. Is there a way I can check and remove the debris without having to remove all the parts? Generally where would the debris be stuck at? I'm assuming near the transmitted area in the back?
There's no way that blade holder adapter came off that easily. I've been trying to take it off for the last hour...
LOL, you got this Jacob. Whenever I first acquire a new/used mower I always apply anti-seize grease to the blade adapter and or crank shaft. I sometimes use a very LIGHT DUTY! cordless auto/air hammer to vibrate the adapter loose. PRO TIP: Apply heat or torch to help loosen rusted or seize parts, also try soaking rust penetrant overnight and remove rust with wire brush or sandpaper once free.
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Good clear instructions.
Do you know if you can get proper bearings for the wheels??
The plastic ones are rubbish.
Regards
Isn
I fought for 3 minutes and said screw it I can do it with it still there. Just spit it around to feed the new belt on and old off
I have an adjustment screw on the cable what's that for
Great video/camera work. I own a HRR216 that has a similar tranny. On other videos, they show 2 bolts. I don't have them.
Do we have to drain/change tranny fluid @ any time? If so, what does it take & how would we DO it. I sub'd & gave u a 👍.
I'm having an issue getting the smart drive cable reattached after the belt is on. I must be doing something wrong. Also, the transmission spring flew off when I detached it as shown in the video, and I had to shake it out of the mower. So frustrating now I can't get it back together :(
figured out how to get slack in the drive cable...still looking for the elusive slot to attach the spring back into!
Thank you so much God bless you
Glad I could help RUBICO
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982
Just 1 more silly 😜 Question
What is belt part number or where we can buy it if you have any suggestions
Thanks in advance
you got the easy model
Yep
What is the belt size
PART# 22431-VR8-N03 DESCRIPTION: V-BELT (3L-39.2) SERIAL# 1188436
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 can you get this belt at tractor supply or walmart?
This can be done without removing the plastic shroud!
Yes, but I don't prefer that method. There are videos out there that show that method. The shroud/shutter removal method show in this video is straight from the Honda HRN216 shop manual. Thanks for watching Easton.
Thank you. God bless
Thanks Serafin I’m here to help and share.
I replaced my belt without removing the blade holder or shroud
Nice!
very thorough
Thank you
Thank you
Absolutely!
U removed too many components which to a beginner diyer would be too complex.
U didn’t have to remove handle for chip director, blade adapter; cover shroud
Everything else u did ok
My bad
You do not to take all these parts you go around these parts