come to think of it, if they want windows to be such a good handheld system, why not just give us xbox's interface as a windows handheld mode? just with the capability to display all your games including steam, epic, and gog etc. i've never hated the xbox console interface and i personally think even if it isn't perfect, it would be a great start
@@Professor_WAAHH My Legion Go's right controller is a PC Mouse too, and there is a mousepad on top of it. And Windows have a on screen keyboard. I have a dock with TV out and and real keyboard etc. for my Handheld too.
I went through your channel and saw that you started uploading regularly to this particular channel only a month ago, I admire the grind and consistency, you earned my respect man, and a sub
@@markedone494You call gacha png simulators a win??? Yes, they might make a lot of money because idiots and their money are easy to depart but why would you ever want to play them?
@@markedone494mobile gaming is coming to a stalemate with all the gacha pay to win mechanics no gaming experience improvements just bunch of cash grabs for characters and skin, mobile market is running it self down, look at the early days of mobile gaming compared to today, is day and night the early years of mobile gaming look like pc gaming innovation and new ideal, now we’re lucky if they even have these fun mechanics and idea behind a paywall, since they straight up removed most game genres and their fun innovation from the early years in favor of in game purchases, and players have grown tired of of that.
The handheld era never ended. 150 million DS's followed by 75 million 3DS's. You have to go back to the 80s to find a decade when the handheld gaming market was not VERY strong.
You’re conflating successful devices from 2004 and 2011 respectively and a thriving market of devices from multiple manufacturers. They are not the same thing.
@@markedone494of course not but what I’m talking about is an environment for handhelds that now exists far beyond the switch , for more ecosystems than Nintendo. The vita hasn’t been relevant for Sony for a long time, Microsoft hasn’t ever had a handheld , and pc handhelds prior to the steam deck were not nearly as affordable.
Valve and Nintendo is keeping the handheld game platform alive. Especially valve. Valve is the one who Kick started the handheld PC competition. Without valves innovation witht steamdeck. Asus, MSI, and Acer wont join the race.
Hybrid consoles are the future. I’m a little worried for Sony and Microsoft, they can’t seem to put out meaningful games consistently and their hyper focus on specs is really starting to hurt them. They need to find something that works fast but they seem very confused and greedy.
Honestly I prefer handhelds over consoles. Currently I bought a switch lite and have fallen in love with gaming again. I really want the switch 2 to have at least PS4 pro level performance. So I will be able to get all my games on the switch instead of a in home console. I'm hoping they don't underclock the Tegra chip again in docked mode. If the T239 is able to run at full power in docked mode then the switch 2 will age pretty well IMO.
I just got a switch oled after not owning a system since the xbox 360. Well i absolutely love it. Tons of games on constantly sale on the eshop. Yes most games are a few years old now but still tons of fun. Currently playing Xcom2.
Unpopular opinion but if Apple managed to sort out game porting just a bit better, the iPad mini will become an extremely powerful handheld. This seems more likely with push towards ARM based architecture.
4:25: LOL! A Windows-based handheld offers a MILLION more experiences than a crummy Xbox-only handheld could. You HAVE to realize that! I mean I can play every type of game imaginable, including Switch games on my Steamdeck. Steamdeck does what Xbox Series [anything] don't.
Not everyone wants to mess with windows/linux, it’s not about having the best/most functionality with software. Android is a more functional and capable platform than apple, and millions of people buy iPhones .
Steam deck performance isn’t as good as even the series S, not everyone who wants a handheld wants compromised performance at what’s currently available, you have to see that.
But that is the problem with these machines. You are going to get Windows (with all its flaws) and Windows certainly isn't optimized for handhelds. Let the handhelds be pure gaming consoles and not crippled PCs.
Steam os is really good. And paired with deck it is nit cripled at all. Consoles are always the cripled ones with extremely expensive games. In steam it wont usually take long for games to be discounted.. Got like 400 games on pc and most play just fine on deck. If id have consoles i could not play older games at all.
When you get Windows out off the way, it is nothing (by simply letting the game process on its own), literally... It's good to see bloated and useless OS services in the background finally out of the picture when it comes to PC gaming. Valve did good by going with Linux.
I grew up a handheld gamer with nintendo was more a PlayStation gamer console wise but steamdeck is my jam so im pc exclusive somewhat now with all the added gamestores as well
I think the PSP and Vita are the reasons Sony haven't released a modern handheld, the uptake of past handhelds has discouraged Sony from competing. Of all the companies producing handhelds the one I have my eye on is Steam, when it comes to the price and quality of hardware and software Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft can't compete.
The PSP was actually a sales success, that's why they made the Vita and that failed as Sony essentially dropped support for it and turned it into a PS4 remote play device primarily.
I won't go back to the switch unless they fucking modernize it, as stated in the video the social aspect is missing and the webshop is atrocious to navigate. Plus how is it still missing common media apps like netflix?
Last year I sold my Switch to buy a Steam Deck and it was the best thing I ever did. I was fed up of Nintendo not giving us themes, Zelda Windwaker, and Zelda Twilight Princess. People have been asking for those things forever, but Nintendo doesn't give a shit what their fans want. I have all those things on the Steam Deck now, and much much more. Screw Nintendo. Hell, I can even play Switch games for free now.
Gaming on the Go is future, mainly due to: 1) People just want have a quick game, and then they can socialize with their friends if they're outside, or can continue with their work like Uber Eats, rather then going back home just to be get on the couch or desk. 2) Most younger audience nowadays comes from Smartphone gaming, so having a portable PC, makes it way more fun and accessible for them, what i mean by that is like, not only they're used to game on the go, but smartphone gaming has come a long way, with having accessories that can let you mount a controller or a backbone onto your phone. 3) Smartphones also has a built-in PC OS such as Samsung's Flagship smartphones, that can let you just bring one device to work. 4) C-19 kinda changed our lifestyles, where we used to stay a home most of the time, but nowadays we prefer to go out more & socialize more. Is a good thing Portable Handheld exists and being revived, it helps gamers to feel much more flexible gaming anywhere they want to. But one thing i just wonder, what does this mean for some video game genres that are specifically made for desktop in mind & require a Keyboard + Mouse? Games genres like PC Mobas, MMOs & RTS? How would they adapt with the change of the new gaming lifestyle? I know that some of RTS communities are quite angry when comes to something that will be different to they way they're used to. It would be interesting to see.
I think the handheld devices are cool, but i just wish they were made more smaller and easily compact. i’m not about to start wearing a fanny pack so i can carry my rog shield lol
@@Yami_Industries i just said i’m not about to start carrying a bag. i do not use bags and am not going to for a gaming machine. i want a more compact design
I think it would be hard to see the text on some games if they made the device smaller. Ergonomics, battery life and control layout will also be affected if they want to make it smaller
Remember when critics thought handheld gaming was dead? Critics were saying mobile phones kill the Vita, haha! Look how things turned out! Where are those critics now?
Comment of the day, who cares with the laughable state that gaming is in. The technology has eclipsed the games, you’ll wait decades for one decent game!
I like my rog ally. I can play games from steam, ea, xbox (xbox cloud ) and stream games from my ps5. That's why I like it. If I got a xbox handheld I probably won't be able to do that
next Nintendo handheld doesnt need a powerful graphics chip, but i do think it needs a good CPU, the current big bottleneck for consoles is the CPU. It's dumb the PS5Pro isn't coming with an enhanced cpu. It seems to only exist for the tiny market of people who want 6k+ray tracing, rather than what most would prefer and thats more stable framerates. When translating this to handhelds, the CPU is more important so hopefully they don't skip out.
Yeah the ps5 pro cpu getting a 10% boost profile is cool but probably not going to be enough headroom to turn 30 fps cpu limited games into 60 fps capable. Agreed on Nintendo, they’ve done well with less powerful machines for decades now , still hoping they over deliver on performance, 1080p 60 for their switch successor would be a welcome upgrade.
While a XBOX Handheld is a must. Another option would be to allow Steam games on to the Xbox consoles doing that. Would give the PC gamers another option instead of having to shell out a lot of money for a Gaming PC just pick up a Series S or X for a lot less. I think that's a win.
Handheld PCs release like every 6 months, so a handheld console won’t age well. I’m still using the steam deck, but in a couple of years I might upgrade.
Sold the consoles for portability and use a compact gaming laptop at home & work that runs surprisingly cool with amd chill, asus tuf a16. Considered going with the rog due to asus having more updates than Lenovo plus my track record with asus products using their rog line before twice. Went against it due to the heat issues and screen bezel. You can use control freak thumb grips to make it larger. Lenovo Legion Go is my best bet, leaving side controllers at home, bringing a portable mini kb or dual sense controller along. But not sure about its weight and heat issues. Haven’t considered the Claw as I don’t fully trust MSI. Considered the Portal via wired PS5 at home and 5G on my phone, it’s been tested on YT and works. Steam Deck doesn’t play everything on the Steam store. It’s a more console feeling experience with big picture mode for the gamers who aren’t used to Windows. Now because of your video I’ll wait to see what the lineup is. Rumours are for Xbox. Sony knows everyone wants a Vita 2 or PSP3. For sure there maybe an Ally 2 or Go 2, improving on the past. The one that wins I think will take the screen of the Lenovo and detachable side controllers (as the main rog ones can get stick drift and then what?), weight of the Ally. Work on the SD card heat issues, battery life and fan noise. But the latter is hard to do in anything portable. Sorry for the length of this! Cheers
I think Sony needs to have an Ethernet port to be able to play online without lagging, sometime I travel and don’t want to bring my ps5?just need a handheld but the lagging is always an issue, if we had a port for a better connection, they would rule the handheld market for sure
I am expecting the rog ally 2 they said to be release this year. Portable gaming is awesome for us. Especially it helps on lessen Electricity bill. And ability to play anywhere
The rog ally/legion go already is giving better performance than the ps4 / Xbox one. The issue though is battery life. A portable handheld playing ps5 games is going to have limited play time portably either due to battery consumption or be a cinder block .
You said it perfectly. I want to play my same games, same saved data, on the go without streaming. We've been able to stream for years thats nothing new. I want my games installed on my device and able to use the saved data when gaming on my console. I just returned my ROG Ally and was thinking about the OLED steam deck but it seems that cant play all the AAA games i wanna play either. Im a little disappointed. Id honestly pay $1,000 for a portable xbox handheld with these capabilities
In the event that Microsoft Xbox introduces a handheld console, it would be advantageous for the device to incorporate certain design elements similar to the Steam Deck or comparable devices. Such a console would undoubtedly feature Game Pass as a primary platform. It is essential to clarify whether users will be required to maintain an active subscription to access all features and content on the device.
I think hybrid consoles are the future dock it when you want or play it anywhere you want is the best way to game in my opinion I love my steam deck and steam deck dock and Nintendo switch and I got and Xbox series x and ps5 but I don’t play them how most people play them no more I like to play them portable like Xbox cloud gaming or remote play and it’s great that PlayStation has a PlayStation portal
The thing is amd wants nintendo because its OS have a better gaming capability without lose. Like rog ally,lenovo legion go who suffers because of windows 11.
with yuzu mobile on my s23 i can play most nintendo games at 30+ fps. i got dark souls remastered, monster hunter ultimate working at 60 fps too. phones are truly impressive right now which makes it even worse that without emulation all you can play is brain rot games
0:01: "Handhelds have had quite the renaissance in the past 5-7 years." As if the 3DS didn't sell 75 million units BEFORE that! Or the DS sell 150 million in the previous decade. LOL! This guy has no clue whatsoever about handhelds.
Yes and pc handhelds were prohibitively expensive , up until very recently, and we didn’t see nearly as many entrants into the market, me saying there’s been a renaissance for handhelds enthusiasts as of the last 5-7 years and successful handhelds only from Nintendo or Sony before then are not mutually exclusive, we have gone a long time without alternative cost effective handhelds options , that weren’t locked to Nintendo, and the vita hasn’t been supported in a long time or been given a proper successor
I think they mean outside Nintendo just dominating. I grew up with handhelds since the Gameboy Pocket and I have never seen as much competition with handhelds as I do now.
AAA companies releasing unfinished MTX crapshoots or “remastering” recent titles while indie is king. It’s funny how tech improves but some games don’t lol Portable Indies like Valheim? Yes please!
6:10: No, what contributed to the Vita's dismal failure was that it did not offer the dual screens, games, and 3D experience that the 3DS offered. Nintendo dominated with a smaller, far less powerful handheld because Sony doesn't get it. Their new streaming handheld is a joke that no one wants to own. It doesn't even count and like the Vita, Sony REFUSES to publish sales figures for it!
The vita died because it was easily jailbroken and pirated software flourished , on top of the fact that the software that was there took too many resources to justify from devs , when they could just make standard console games, it also was expensive and required proprietary memory cards.
I'm always excited to see new innovations but to be honest, my steam deck makes me so happy I really wouldn't be upset if it was the last gaming device I ever owned.
They are trying to target Gen Z and younger generations of gamers. Who would rather play on a handheld. They must have done research and looked at the data of where people in those age groups like to play games. And I guarantee Nintendo Switch sits at number 1.
Hope they listen to u! They know but they fear impact on existing ecosystem. Otherwise why would these highly resourced and research company's make fundamental error in choosing their approximate to launch exactly opposite inception products...answer- longevity of profitability. Release B before A - profit from B then slowly move towards A...perseverance to profitability over multiple years.....as opposed to release A-line first....not enough room in terms of time to innovate and pressure to innovate causing possible additional to risk to new innovation going wrong. Innovation takes time and high risk to make it right so tech always play this way!! Due to this doing right things only after wrong iterations makes sense causing us to wait while they buy time and earn profits yoy for their stakeholders!!
I hope Sony is making a portable (though a pc handheld will alwasy be my preference). I think the Steam Deck is the greatest thing since sliced bread. If Sony makes another handheld, team up with steam so we can run our PC libraries on it. That would benefit both of you! The future is multiplatform. I think Sony is now realizing that with their "exclusives" releases now coming to PC, which i love playing Horizon and others on glorious 5120x1440 max settings, thank you Sony 🫡
come to think of it, if they want windows to be such a good handheld system, why not just give us xbox's interface as a windows handheld mode? just with the capability to display all your games including steam, epic, and gog etc. i've never hated the xbox console interface and i personally think even if it isn't perfect, it would be a great start
At least Legion Go PC Handheld have a Lenovo launcher that supports Xbox, Steam, Epic, GOG, EA, UBI etc.
@@V3ntilator that's cool and all, but windows as an OS sucks without a keyboard and mouse where as steam os is better
@@Professor_WAAHH My Legion Go's right controller is a PC Mouse too, and there is a mousepad on top of it.
And Windows have a on screen keyboard.
I have a dock with TV out and and real keyboard etc. for my Handheld too.
I went through your channel and saw that you started uploading regularly to this particular channel only a month ago, I admire the grind and consistency, you earned my respect man, and a sub
the xbox handheld should be running the xbox os.... because windows is a pain.
Handheld market is in renaissance cause Mobile gaming Failed
How I see it is that mobile gaming failed because their customers have no standards which leads to a race to the bottom.
Mobile gaming makes more
Money than any other platform, its literally the biggest winner EVER, like what the actual fuck? Where do you live?
@@markedone494You call gacha png simulators a win??? Yes, they might make a lot of money because idiots and their money are easy to depart but why would you ever want to play them?
@@markedone494mobile gaming is coming to a stalemate with all the gacha pay to win mechanics no gaming experience improvements just bunch of cash grabs for characters and skin, mobile market is running it self down, look at the early days of mobile gaming compared to today, is day and night the early years of mobile gaming look like pc gaming innovation and new ideal, now we’re lucky if they even have these fun mechanics and idea behind a paywall, since they straight up removed most game genres and their fun innovation from the early years in favor of in game purchases, and players have grown tired of of that.
@@markedone494is that a trust me bro source
The handheld era is back? The first Xbox Handheld is sick lol
The handheld era never ended. 150 million DS's followed by 75 million 3DS's. You have to go back to the 80s to find a decade when the handheld gaming market was not VERY strong.
You’re conflating successful devices from 2004 and 2011 respectively and a thriving market of devices from multiple manufacturers. They are not the same thing.
@@orb-o-ponderer Did you forget that the switch exists?
You know, the best selling console for the past two gens?
@@markedone494of course not but what I’m talking about is an environment for handhelds that now exists far beyond the switch , for more ecosystems than Nintendo. The vita hasn’t been relevant for Sony for a long time, Microsoft hasn’t ever had a handheld , and pc handhelds prior to the steam deck were not nearly as affordable.
Valve and Nintendo is keeping the handheld game platform alive.
Especially valve. Valve is the one who Kick started the handheld PC competition.
Without valves innovation witht steamdeck. Asus, MSI, and Acer wont join the race.
Handheld's appear to be the future, in a strange way I'm surprised it didn't happen a lot earlier with the release of the GameBoy.
Hybrid consoles are the future. I’m a little worried for Sony and Microsoft, they can’t seem to put out meaningful games consistently and their hyper focus on specs is really starting to hurt them. They need to find something that works fast but they seem very confused and greedy.
Honestly I prefer handhelds over consoles. Currently I bought a switch lite and have fallen in love with gaming again. I really want the switch 2 to have at least PS4 pro level performance. So I will be able to get all my games on the switch instead of a in home console. I'm hoping they don't underclock the Tegra chip again in docked mode. If the T239 is able to run at full power in docked mode then the switch 2 will age pretty well IMO.
Be thankful if it reaches ps3 level 😅
@@borky1987it doesnt
@@borky1987The Switch is much more powerful than a PS3 moron.
@@BLACKSTA361Clown
I just got a switch oled after not owning a system since the xbox 360. Well i absolutely love it. Tons of games on constantly sale on the eshop. Yes most games are a few years old now but still tons of fun. Currently playing Xcom2.
Oh Jesus - trade in your ‘steam oled’
Fuck Nintendo and their pricing and ports -
Sounds like im good with my SD oled for awhile
Same, the ps vita 2 and xbox portable sounds interesting too
Unpopular opinion but if Apple managed to sort out game porting just a bit better, the iPad mini will become an extremely powerful handheld. This seems more likely with push towards ARM based architecture.
4:25: LOL! A Windows-based handheld offers a MILLION more experiences than a crummy Xbox-only handheld could. You HAVE to realize that! I mean I can play every type of game imaginable, including Switch games on my Steamdeck.
Steamdeck does what Xbox Series [anything] don't.
Not everyone wants to mess with windows/linux, it’s not about having the best/most functionality with software.
Android is a more functional and capable platform than apple, and millions of people buy iPhones .
Steam deck performance isn’t as good as even the series S, not everyone who wants a handheld wants compromised performance at what’s currently available, you have to see that.
Hold on you talk windows handheld but use only linux handheld as example 😅
But that is the problem with these machines. You are going to get Windows (with all its flaws) and Windows certainly isn't optimized for handhelds. Let the handhelds be pure gaming consoles and not crippled PCs.
Steam os is really good. And paired with deck it is nit cripled at all. Consoles are always the cripled ones with extremely expensive games. In steam it wont usually take long for games to be discounted..
Got like 400 games on pc and most play just fine on deck. If id have consoles i could not play older games at all.
Steam jumped into comsole marketing like it was nothing.
When you get Windows out off the way, it is nothing (by simply letting the game process on its own), literally...
It's good to see bloated and useless OS services in the background finally out of the picture when it comes to PC gaming.
Valve did good by going with Linux.
Wut they tried in the begining with the steam machines and that flopped hard
@qchtohere8636 Windows still dominates pc gaming bruv. Everything runs on windows. Can't say the same about linux.
@@CodyslxPopular not equals good.
@@continental_consumer A Gaming machine that can run every game in it's library isn't very good either.
I grew up a handheld gamer with nintendo was more a PlayStation gamer console wise but steamdeck is my jam so im pc exclusive somewhat now with all the added gamestores as well
I was excited for Portal but was sad when it was only streaming handheld and no on device gaming. I cancelled my order.
I think the PSP and Vita are the reasons Sony haven't released a modern handheld, the uptake of past handhelds has discouraged Sony from competing.
Of all the companies producing handhelds the one I have my eye on is Steam, when it comes to the price and quality of hardware and software Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft can't compete.
The PSP was actually a sales success, that's why they made the Vita and that failed as Sony essentially dropped support for it and turned it into a PS4 remote play device primarily.
I won't go back to the switch unless they fucking modernize it, as stated in the video the social aspect is missing and the webshop is atrocious to navigate. Plus how is it still missing common media apps like netflix?
It confounds me how they are missing those features, I get that it’s a gaming device first and foremost but the 360 had Netflix ffs
You’re trying to tell me you refuse to play any switch games because the strictly unrelated to games features are annoying?
Last year I sold my Switch to buy a Steam Deck and it was the best thing I ever did. I was fed up of Nintendo not giving us themes, Zelda Windwaker, and Zelda Twilight Princess. People have been asking for those things forever, but Nintendo doesn't give a shit what their fans want. I have all those things on the Steam Deck now, and much much more. Screw Nintendo. Hell, I can even play Switch games for free now.
@@amit_patel654 if Nintendo didn’t care, tears of the kingdom wouldn’t exist.
@@amit_patel654 also stop pirating games
Gaming on the Go is future, mainly due to:
1) People just want have a quick game, and then they can socialize with their friends if they're outside, or can continue with their work like Uber Eats, rather then going back home just to be get on the couch or desk.
2) Most younger audience nowadays comes from Smartphone gaming, so having a portable PC, makes it way more fun and accessible for them, what i mean by that is like, not only they're used to game on the go, but smartphone gaming has come a long way, with having accessories that can let you mount a controller or a backbone onto your phone.
3) Smartphones also has a built-in PC OS such as Samsung's Flagship smartphones, that can let you just bring one device to work.
4) C-19 kinda changed our lifestyles, where we used to stay a home most of the time, but nowadays we prefer to go out more & socialize more.
Is a good thing Portable Handheld exists and being revived, it helps gamers to feel much more flexible gaming anywhere they want to. But one thing i just wonder, what does this mean for some video game genres that are specifically made for desktop in mind & require a Keyboard + Mouse? Games genres like PC Mobas, MMOs & RTS? How would they adapt with the change of the new gaming lifestyle? I know that some of RTS communities are quite angry when comes to something that will be different to they way they're used to.
It would be interesting to see.
I think the handheld devices are cool, but i just wish they were made more smaller and easily compact. i’m not about to start wearing a fanny pack so i can carry my rog shield lol
backpack? Laptop bag?
@@Yami_Industries i just said i’m not about to start carrying a bag. i do not use bags and am not going to for a gaming machine. i want a more compact design
I think it would be hard to see the text on some games if they made the device smaller. Ergonomics, battery life and control layout will also be affected if they want to make it smaller
@@notepadplusplus4923switch lite is perfect example of how compact handheld device should be
Odin 2 bruh
Remember when critics thought handheld gaming was dead? Critics were saying mobile phones kill the Vita, haha! Look how things turned out! Where are those critics now?
Comment of the day, who cares with the laughable state that gaming is in. The technology has eclipsed the games, you’ll wait decades for one decent game!
you play 0 games , amazing games came out last year
Bubble bass name large great titles to why the most gamers own including casuals
2 to 3 games a year is not that bad bg 3, pal world and Elden ring dlc are holding it for me for a year have faith
Time to hit the ol’ backlog, lord knows it’s full of tons of bangers. Games don’t have to be in the current news stream to be enjoyed.
Show some respect...if you don't like games go.. home little boy
I like my rog ally. I can play games from steam, ea, xbox (xbox cloud ) and stream games from my ps5. That's why I like it. If I got a xbox handheld I probably won't be able to do that
Sony, Microsoft, whichever brings out a decent handheld is going to be the console I buy all my games for over the next few years.
3:08 what game is this?
Bright memory infinite
And only one will thrive.
next Nintendo handheld doesnt need a powerful graphics chip, but i do think it needs a good CPU, the current big bottleneck for consoles is the CPU. It's dumb the PS5Pro isn't coming with an enhanced cpu. It seems to only exist for the tiny market of people who want 6k+ray tracing, rather than what most would prefer and thats more stable framerates. When translating this to handhelds, the CPU is more important so hopefully they don't skip out.
Yeah the ps5 pro cpu getting a 10% boost profile is cool but probably not going to be enough headroom to turn 30 fps cpu limited games into 60 fps capable.
Agreed on Nintendo, they’ve done well with less powerful machines for decades now , still hoping they over deliver on performance, 1080p 60 for their switch successor would be a welcome upgrade.
Now everybody wants to be a handheld console just like almost every phone has been an iphone without the apple
I bought a switch in January loving it more than i thought i ever would. Excited for a ps handheld.
While a XBOX Handheld is a must. Another option would be to allow Steam games on to the Xbox consoles doing that. Would give the PC gamers another option instead of having to shell out a lot of money for a Gaming PC just pick up a Series S or X for a lot less. I think that's a win.
Handheld PCs release like every 6 months, so a handheld console won’t age well. I’m still using the steam deck, but in a couple of years I might upgrade.
Is a steam deck worth it or the next PlayStation handheld?
@@dark_nightwing_xl2797Id say a steam deck. By the time a psp3 comes out there'll be a steam deck 2.
Sold the consoles for portability and use a compact gaming laptop at home & work that runs surprisingly cool with amd chill, asus tuf a16.
Considered going with the rog due to asus having more updates than Lenovo plus my track record with asus products using their rog line before twice.
Went against it due to the heat issues and screen bezel. You can use control freak thumb grips to make it larger.
Lenovo Legion Go is my best bet, leaving side controllers at home, bringing a portable mini kb or dual sense controller along. But not sure about its weight and heat issues.
Haven’t considered the Claw as I don’t fully trust MSI.
Considered the Portal via wired PS5 at home and 5G on my phone, it’s been tested on YT and works.
Steam Deck doesn’t play everything on the Steam store. It’s a more console feeling experience with big picture mode for the gamers who aren’t used to Windows.
Now because of your video I’ll wait to see what the lineup is. Rumours are for Xbox. Sony knows everyone wants a Vita 2 or PSP3. For sure there maybe an Ally 2 or Go 2, improving on the past.
The one that wins I think will take the screen of the Lenovo and detachable side controllers (as the main rog ones can get stick drift and then what?), weight of the Ally. Work on the SD card heat issues, battery life and fan noise. But the latter is hard to do in anything portable.
Sorry for the length of this! Cheers
I still think the SteamDeck Oled screen is too small for gaming
I hope xbox and playstation portable come up next with low end hardware that can run 8th gen game is enough
I think Sony needs to have an Ethernet port to be able to play online without lagging, sometime I travel and don’t want to bring my ps5?just need a handheld but the lagging is always an issue, if we had a port for a better connection, they would rule the handheld market for sure
I think it’ll be like the ally or steam deck where it can pass through Ethernet via a dock or sub c hub.
We need steam phone with steamos dedicated for arm with ported games
I am expecting the rog ally 2 they said to be release this year. Portable gaming is awesome for us. Especially it helps on lessen Electricity bill. And ability to play anywhere
I don't think this guy realizes how old the PS4/Xbox One are that should be the BARE MINIMUM we expect from.handhelds 1080p 60fps
The rog ally/legion go already is giving better performance than the ps4 / Xbox one.
The issue though is battery life. A portable handheld playing ps5 games is going to have limited play time portably either due to battery consumption or be a cinder block .
You said it perfectly. I want to play my same games, same saved data, on the go without streaming. We've been able to stream for years thats nothing new. I want my games installed on my device and able to use the saved data when gaming on my console. I just returned my ROG Ally and was thinking about the OLED steam deck but it seems that cant play all the AAA games i wanna play either. Im a little disappointed. Id honestly pay $1,000 for a portable xbox handheld with these capabilities
In the event that Microsoft Xbox introduces a handheld console, it would be advantageous for the device to incorporate certain design elements similar to the Steam Deck or comparable devices. Such a console would undoubtedly feature Game Pass as a primary platform. It is essential to clarify whether users will be required to maintain an active subscription to access all features and content on the device.
Legion go lezz Go!
With Steam launching their platform on handheld and combining retro games until switch. There is no more reason to get first party handheld
I have an OLED Steam Deck
And will bit the next one. I will get a Switch 2 also, not sure if I'll get Sonys new handheld if they make one.
If PlayStation can make a actual handheld for on the go as long as it can run 1080 p locked 60 fps your good for the next generation
I think hybrid consoles are the future dock it when you want or play it anywhere you want is the best way to game in my opinion I love my steam deck and steam deck dock and Nintendo switch and I got and Xbox series x and ps5 but I don’t play them how most people play them no more I like to play them portable like Xbox cloud gaming or remote play and it’s great that PlayStation has a PlayStation portal
The thing is amd wants nintendo because its OS have a better gaming capability without lose. Like rog ally,lenovo legion go who suffers because of windows 11.
I still own and use my psvita best handheld ever maybe #2 if u like the 3ds
with yuzu mobile on my s23 i can play most nintendo games at 30+ fps. i got dark souls remastered, monster hunter ultimate working at 60 fps too. phones are truly impressive right now which makes it even worse that without emulation all you can play is brain rot games
0:01: "Handhelds have had quite the renaissance in the past 5-7 years."
As if the 3DS didn't sell 75 million units BEFORE that! Or the DS sell 150 million in the previous decade. LOL! This guy has no clue whatsoever about handhelds.
Yes and pc handhelds were prohibitively expensive , up until very recently, and we didn’t see nearly as many entrants into the market, me saying there’s been a renaissance for handhelds enthusiasts as of the last 5-7 years and successful handhelds only from Nintendo or Sony before then are not mutually exclusive, we have gone a long time without alternative cost effective handhelds options , that weren’t locked to Nintendo, and the vita hasn’t been supported in a long time or been given a proper successor
I think they mean outside Nintendo just dominating. I grew up with handhelds since the Gameboy Pocket and I have never seen as much competition with handhelds as I do now.
AAA companies releasing unfinished MTX crapshoots or “remastering” recent titles while indie is king. It’s funny how tech improves but some games don’t lol
Portable Indies like Valheim?
Yes please!
Imagine xbox making a device the size of a switch that has the power of a series s and an oled screen..
I’m existed for Xbox Or PSVita2 Handheld Console
6:10: No, what contributed to the Vita's dismal failure was that it did not offer the dual screens, games, and 3D experience that the 3DS offered. Nintendo dominated with a smaller, far less powerful handheld because Sony doesn't get it. Their new streaming handheld is a joke that no one wants to own. It doesn't even count and like the Vita, Sony REFUSES to publish sales figures for it!
The vita died because it was easily jailbroken and pirated software flourished , on top of the fact that the software that was there took too many resources to justify from devs , when they could just make standard console games, it also was expensive and required proprietary memory cards.
I’m with you, would be fantastic to have more player to player integration on switch.
The Switch sales and Smartphone usage should have illustrated that a boxy console on a screen is now a minority. Bring it Xbox.
I'm always excited to see new innovations but to be honest, my steam deck makes me so happy I really wouldn't be upset if it was the last gaming device I ever owned.
streaming/cloud gaming is NOT handheld gaming.
Just try nvifia geforce now the top tier, there will be no low res bs ir compromizes
They are trying to target Gen Z and younger generations of gamers. Who would rather play on a handheld. They must have done research and looked at the data of where people in those age groups like to play games. And I guarantee Nintendo Switch sits at number 1.
I think this is why the Switch 2 has been delayed.
Gamers are too old to fire up consoles with a tv or monitor,make it handheld like legion go ,
Hope they listen to u! They know but they fear impact on existing ecosystem. Otherwise why would these highly resourced and research company's make fundamental error in choosing their approximate to launch exactly opposite inception products...answer- longevity of profitability. Release B before A - profit from B then slowly move towards A...perseverance to profitability over multiple years.....as opposed to release A-line first....not enough room in terms of time to innovate and pressure to innovate causing possible additional to risk to new innovation going wrong. Innovation takes time and high risk to make it right so tech always play this way!! Due to this doing right things only after wrong iterations makes sense causing us to wait while they buy time and earn profits yoy for their stakeholders!!
No! switch sucks , 720p 20 fps zelda is not a good experience
Consle are dead now rather have hand held
hadn held suck one drop thats it sys is f,ed ,i realy hope microsoft dont bring one out they dont need two
The next Xbox is in the works and going to be for 2026
SteamOS / linix can kick sand. SteamOS is buggy trash.
and cant play all games 😂😂😂 crap deck
I hope Sony is making a portable (though a pc handheld will alwasy be my preference). I think the Steam Deck is the greatest thing since sliced bread. If Sony makes another handheld, team up with steam so we can run our PC libraries on it. That would benefit both of you! The future is multiplatform. I think Sony is now realizing that with their "exclusives" releases now coming to PC, which i love playing Horizon and others on glorious 5120x1440 max settings, thank you Sony 🫡
Such a good plan sony should hire you 👏
Steam deck doesn’t have online