Building A Fish's Preflop Calling Range | SplitSuit
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 พ.ย. 2016
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In Part 1 of this 4 part series, SplitSuit starts the hand reading process against a player who “never folds” when they call a preflop raise from the SB. This range is incredibly wide (like, over 800 combos wide!), but it clearly highlights the value of putting each hand into its respective bucket. If you are wondering what fishy players are calling you with preflop in $1/$2 games, start here!
wow, you really nailed my preflop calling range
Might be time to tighten it up just a tad if you call this range in all spots =P
I rarely say this, but I'm really looking forward for the next part, can't wait to see what happens :D .
You are the best poker coach on TH-cam; i wish you great success with your channel
Thanks so much Billy!
Thanks for another top video, James. I usually play in Casinos against (sometimes) competent players, but I moved and now am limited to fishy home games, so this was very useful
You're very welcome Joel. Glad it helped =)
Cool stuff
I've been thinking about purchasing it for myself but want to make sure I know exactly what's included.
Is it merely a set of examples with fill in the blank questions? Or does it come with lessons, guides and answers to each example? If it doesn't come with these things, would it be the same as me using my own hand history from my poker tracker instead?
I appreciate your help, thank you!
Josh.
Do you have starting ranges for different types of players in your head and if so where would I find these. Being new to this and studying your material, I am still not sure where we begin our ranges. You assigned 60% to this fish, what would a TAG, LAG, NIT start out at? How do we even start figuring this out on our own. I play online, so should I be using HUD stats as a basis for my starting ranges? If so how do HUD stats convert into ranges? Your videos are amazing, and I've learned more in the last few weeks than in 5 years of playing previously. Thank you for sharing your vast knowledge in a very comprehensible way.
Thank you James!!!
You're very welcome =)
Hey James. Love your videos. I'm happy to see that you'll make some range-based videos now, rather than more hand histories. Am I right to assume that the following videos will be about betting ranges against fish?
Thanks! The exact line in this hand is: fish donks, CO folds, we raise, fish calls. Turn they donk again and we call. River they bet into us again.
i'm not able to paste into the templates. after copying from flopzilla it's just Ctrl V, right?
Yes. But make sure you are using a program that allows you to "edit" the PDF. Adobe Acrobat Pro can do it fwiw.
I am better at estimating postflop ranges than pre because they are so narrow and the people play very face-up and predictable. My problem is in assigning a starting range because I'm honestly not sure what their minimum is to limp and cold-call with. You say a lot that the exact specifics of a range don't matter, and I understand why you do this, but that's the biggest block I've had since trying to assign ranges 6 months ago.
I'm in the exact same spot. I'm really good at analyzing spots postflop and make really good hero calls when necessary, but I get blindsided by someone nailing two pair with 94s on tbe flop against my AA
hi! When i try to build ranges like this scared that this will be too far from reality... Especially 3bet ranges, and value of work is little... Can give some advise?
Just keep practicing. You will rarely be 100% spot-on...the goal is just to be closer and closer to correct - especially when ranges are wide and/or contain blind spots (like 3bet ranges)
Thanks for this. Do you really think it's reasonable to expect someone calling this wide is necessarily calling/raising with the best X% of hands? It seems more likely to me that their range is "all the obvious value hands plus a completely random selection of other stuff". Are they really much more likely to have 97s than 92o, say? This means that our equity calculations on later streets could be way off. For example the range you assign here has lots of fives and very few two in it, so with a J22 flop we could be way off in our equity estimation.
You're very welcome Ben! If someone were really going to call with 92o, then you can likely assume they play all hands and fold pretty much 0 of them. But most weak players fold even sometimes - and they must be folding something.
Another thing to keep in mind is the exact spot in which they call. Them calling vs one player is different than them calling from the blinds in a super MW pot...
But do you really think that if they're bad enough to play 75% of hands then they're good enough to identify the best 75% of hands? I wonder whether it isn't more likely to be the best 25% and some pretty random selection of the rest, and if so does that affect our play?
Then the range you assign would be a weighted-% on the bottom 75% of hands - which would leave more combos of 2x on J22 - but it would still be a low density.
I dont think, its completely random. But if someone is bad enough to have a really wide range, maybe they are also bad enough to not understand the importance of having connected cards. So maybe they call Q6o but fold 64o and not the other way around. These are details though, and I am not sure, they will really matter all that much, as the hand progresses. On later streets its usually way more important, how you narrow down ranges based on the action.
I cant hand read anything at my local casino, Any 2 cards suited is a premium hand for them. yesterday I did a 3bet with aces and got called by 94c and the guy floped two nines...
You can still hand read. You just assign very wide ranges is all.
You should be thrilled, that he called a 3-bet with 94c, because this is exactly the kind of calling mistakes, which will allow you to win a ton of money from him in the long run. You just need to remember, that you are not going to win every single hand in poker, and focus on winning the mini-max game instead. And you do this mainly by becoming better at hand reading.
and you dont love that?! you should be thrilled!!!!!
Carbon poker is not a us friendly site
im really into poker, but i don't understand half of these things. maybe i should practice my terminology more
This tool, FLOPZILLA, just helps you visualize your opponents tendencies. For example a hand like 99s, would be a great to play against the SB because a chunck of his starting hands will be dominated by your pair of 99s. This tool helps you make +EV (Expected Value) decisions.
I love you so fucking much
Sorry I mean just A LITLE SLOWLY
Please JAMES, I m trying to learn English at the same time with poker, could you please speak a lisle slowly. Thanks!
When watching on TH-cam, click the little gear icon in the bottom-right hand corner, go to speed, and watch at .5x. That should help!