Josh Allen Given Smelling Salts After Huge Hit - Doctor Explains
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Josh Allen certainly looked to be unconscious on the field at the end of the Bills Texans game after hitting his head hard on the turf. Yet he returned to the game just minutes later.
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What's even crazier is them trying to cover it up. 3 mins after this they said it was a chest injury, and then after the game Josh Allen said he just rolled his ankle on that play.
Anything for the shield!
Dolphins pulled the same thing 2 years ago.
He said both actually.
@@melissabrown550 and that is why the rule was changed - this needs to be reviewed
His head bounced twice too. It's sad. Glad a lot call this out and hope he makes a good recovery.
There should be an investigation into this. It’s insane that Allen was allowed to come back to in.
Reading this gave me a concussion
AGREE 100%
If that was Tua......
Lmao, calm down. He decided to stay in who cares. They play football and used to play thru them all the time. And yes, I understand CTE. The truth is most players gonna have it. Get over it 😂
@@TrePrince brother I couldn’t care any less as I don’t go for either team, but based off the NFL’s own protocol, Allen shouldn’t have came back in
This is disgraceful especially after we saw what happened with Tua. Fans are now hyper aware of concussion symptoms. The Bills need to be investigated after this !
I'm sorry but Josh Allen needs to seriously consider retirement, if he steps back out on that field he will die. I'm sure of this.
It’s an independent neurologist, not the Bills. If he gets cleared, he gets cleared. Doesn’t mean he didn’t have a concussion, it just means the independent neurologist just might not be very good at their job.
@@SeiyaSoiya-un4jjthat or which is also possible being knocked out does not also mean a concussion either. Highly probable with a hit to the head sure but just look at boxing after getting hit to the ground from an uppercut cross or hook not every one of them develop a concussion after same if they get knocked out or your right both neurologists were terrible either way with independent consultation I doubt much will happen
Honestly Josh Allen turning into vegetable years from now wouldn’t be a terrible thing. “Long term humbling” is what I like to call it. If players wanna be “tough” and play through shit like this I’ll have no sympathy for them. Besides, it’s just the Bills. It’s just Josh Allen the bonehead. Let him turn himself into a vegetable. 😂
@@Docstantinoplemy guy you sound so stupid. The reason they keep playing is because they are getting paid more for one game than you make over a 5 year span. If you just hate football so much why you even watching the video? You a loser 😂😂
NFL Concussion protocol is a joke with this especially. Absolutely reckless
I mean, they 100% covered up one of Tuas' several concussions 2 seasons ago. Too much money to lose by having Allen out for 2 games.
@@OogaBoogaBooga6969Yeah if it was any other position his helmet would have been snatched
NFL's concern for "players safety" has always been a ruse. The NFL is all about profit and ratings!
Honestly Josh Allen turning into vegetable years from now wouldn’t be a terrible thing. “Long term humbling” is what I like to call it. If players wanna be “tough” and play through shit like this I’ll have no sympathy for them. Besides, it’s just the Bills. It’s just Josh Allen the bonehead. Let him turn himself into a vegetable. 😂
Gotta keep him in so you dont go 3-2😂
I was at this game! I was like no way is he coming back in, he was on the ground for a minute. Buffalo realized Trubisky was their backup and said nah 😬
Trubisky lol I'm surprised bro still has a job in the NFL.
Trubisky isn’t bad as far as backups go… but the bills were desperate
Trubisky IS bad
@@rorytribbet6424 I guess I can kinda agree with that. Theres alot of really bad QB play in the NFL these days. So I guess hes not a bad backup. I mean Nathan Peterman is still backing up teams...
Trubisky would have likely played better. This was tge worst game by a QB in probably a decade.
Doctors: "What's 12 + 8?"
Allen: "Chicken nuggets"
Doctors: "He's good to go"
That's a 20 piece accurate answer .
Doctor: *gives smelling salts*
Allen: "40!"
Doctor: "thats more like it"
I member when a 20 piece was $2.99 on Thursday nights
Not another teen movie: "CAN HE PLAYYY?"
😂
Josh Allen is very physical player and displays a lot of toughness on the field. He runs into contact and e pops right back up when he gets tackled. He didn’t pop right back up after this hit. Dude hit his head hard and was unconscious. Definitely a concussion. Somehow he weaseled his way back in the. NFL touts how it is so much safer and takes steps to prevent players from continuing to play in situations like these but then stuff like this happens and they get away with it. Dude was clearly concussed, lost consciousness and somehow still allowed to play. Not to mention think want to sell us that it was an issue with the ankle which it’s clearly not.
@@Docstantinople meanwhile they only “care” about Dolphins players. I don’t think they actually care about player health. I think they care more about manipulating the games
I agree.. I have NEVER saw him down like that 😢
Unfortunately tough doesnt stop brutal knockouts in the UFC. This is essentially the same thing as taking one on the chin and being out for a short time until the doctors come in the cage. Rather obvious at a bare minimum he doesnt come back into the game. Play in a week maybe sure. But not a couple minutes later.
@@gtaatmiami to be fair, the only reason they gave so much shit about Tua is it happened 3 times. They tried to cover up with him too but when it became obvious, they changed the tune.
Very good point. Dude is tough as nails and usually gets up as fast as possible. His last few throws were ..... Yeesh not good. Clearly didn't seem to be all there
That’s the second concussion in two weeks. They rushed him off the field last week in Baltimore to avoid the “independent specialist” last week he hit the back of his head once on the bad trick play and once on a sack
That would explain why he played so badly today.
I 100% agree. Thought i was the only 1 who seen it vs Ravens. TV broadcast just glossed over it. They was Focused on the fumble
@@canedavenport687 yea 9 of 30 is wild. It’s so off that’s it definitely a red flag
@@christopherhaynes8101wonder he Allen will look next game. Lol. 😅
Heads should roll and the NFL should have the balls to fine the shit out of them. Once again, a game over a players safety and we'll being. We'd probably all be flabbergasted over what probably gets covered up in the NFL.
His head did a double bounce, too. Lifelong Bills fan and I didnt want Allen back in. Trubisky, couldve handed the ball off to get in for a running TD, instead of Josh throwing twice and not connecting with his receivers that couldnt catch a damn thing all day
Sean McDermott has got to go.
They'd have been better off with Trubisky.
An actual human being and Bills fan. So many Bills "Fans" getting so mad that people are calling this out.
Just saw his interview on local TV: "I got hit in the chest and I rolled my ankle"
... I have no words!
Josh is just a bonehead. He’s too happy to go back out even after being knocked out cold. If he’s willing to do that that then team is obviously gonna be happy to take advantage of him. They’ll use up all his physical ability and he’ll be thrown out on the street in the next four or five years I bet. 😂
It wasn't long ago this stuff would happen and no one cared. QBs would get knocked out or concussed and just keep playing. Not saying it's smart but it's nothing new.
@@kylebanks13 yeah, but new knowledge about the effects made most people agree it should be taken much more seriously, even if it means to err on the side of caution.
Concussions happening won't be preventable, every sane person gets that, but letting a player turn his brain to mush is.
@@staomruel I'm talking about Josh downplaying it himself not the team or NFL.
@kylebanks13 same argument, what we know now is you can't trust a player's judgment after a concussion. It's probable Josh didn't even know he had been out cold for a while.
I'm a dolphins fan, hope allen is ok and that the bills medical staff isn't covering shit up like we did with tua 2 years ago
Jesus Christ. What happened that made this division get hit with the God of Injuries 😅
@@ChrisJZedStormzone-fz8od Aaron Rodgers last year, and Mac Jones last year too ... damn you're right lol.
The team medical staff isn't who clears the player to come back in.
@@RageDaug
Don’t try explaining to most of the lesser people on this comment thread. They all went to public school and it REALLY shows.
1. We didn't cover shit up 2 years ago, we took the advice of the medical professional.
2. Tua flew back with the team after the Cincinnati game 2 years ago and flew with the team against Seattle this year. Anyone that knows anything about concussions knows that flying with said concussion is a death sentence....so why is Tua flying with the team with a concussion???? Anwser...those concussions Tua had were nowhere as bad as the media wants you to believe they were.
These are supposed to be independent neurologist who do not have a stake involved, not team doctors. Allen was clearly unconscious, refused to go into the tent at first, then the evaluation takes half the time that it normally does. Then the smelling salts? This is just egregious. The protocol is supposed to protect players from themselves. Someone in that blue tent got paid!
They were independent neurologist involved who cleared Allen. I'm guessing they didn't watch the replay.
Time for Josh Allen to retire
"who do not have a stake" ... UHHHH have you seen ALL the sports betting commercials & ads!?!? EVERYONE's invested in these games nowadays! (not saying the independent neurologists let him go bc of DraftKings! buuuuut.....)
@@ronniesnakehissiii9413 With a team trainer running up to Josh offering smelling salts, I would say this was an organizational decision. As too the independent neurologist, I hope they can’t get sued for malpractice 😂
Josh Allen: I have a concussion.
NFL: um...no you don't?
Josh Allen: ok.
I 100% agree. Btw, the broadcasting crew was incredibly ignorant about the whole thing.
What happened to Mike Ryan, former head AT for the Jags who was on TV as an injury consultant for the broadcast team? Was he too on in stuff like this, which didn't fit the NFL narrative? Just about balling here, but you don't see him this year.
You think the broadcasters are going to call this stuff out, they have to think about their own jobs.
@@brennancondon3357agreed, im sure they arent willing to sit there and challenge essentially there employers on a sensitive topic regarding a Top 5 Superstar in the league. Even if it was the Bills decision and not the NFLs in the moment.
they know better. Josh Allen, as much as I have to hate him for fanatic reasoning, brings a lot of viewers. Do you think anyone wants to watch the Bills with Mitch trubinski? Especially when they play Aaron Rogers and the jets next week? On prime time to boot!! Hell no they do not. They tried to keep Tua hush hush at first in 2022 remember? Something about a back injury? but then he did it 2 more times and it looked horrific. So the whole narrative pivoted to save face. Same thing here. Nothing to see here folks. He just had the wind knocked out of him. Tune in next week to see Scrambled egg vs Old Man Withers in a AFC East shootout that's bound to be fun!!
@@TomKite51 they are not going to challenge the billionaire owners, they will challenge the NFL they do it all the time.
It’s worth noting his Pass completion percentage has plummeted since he banged his head against the Ravens last week.
thats just receivers dropping balls homie he was on target
@@lMousecopl 9/30 today. I’ll give Allen the benefit of the doubt since that ravens game 8/15 in the remainder. 17/45. And you’re telling me they’re dropping passes. LOL. Allen is concussed.
I said the same thing.
@@arenmakau8717Still better then yours teams QB. highest QB.R currently and lowest ints currently and 4th in TDS. Seethe and cope concussed Allen better then your favorite QB 😂
@@issacdiff3286he’s just concerned dude, not seething. He needs to be checked out.
There's no way they allowed him in the game. Come on bruh. He was sleeping on the field.
Bro was out cold
Guys, we all know only Tua gets concussions. Everybody else is completely fine.
right? It’s interesting the media only cares about Tua’s concussions
💀
lol Achane got knock out today, he did not come back. Our team is under a microscope
but i thought only tua could get concussions?! oh nooo he pulled a tua, josh allen is soft too (surprised pikachu face)
The difference is Tua keeps going stiff and his fingers are pointing in every direction. That is called a fencing response. That literally means you have brain damage.
NFL concussion protocol doesnt apply to the stars, just like the refs dont penalize them the same.
Not true. Stroud had this exact same thing happen last year and he missed 2 games due to concussion protocol. Bills are just trying to cheat the rules at Allens expense.
@@jeffreywillis4258
It’s not the Bills. It’s an independent neurologist that makes the call.
@@SeiyaSoiya-un4jj
Yea ok. "He hurt his chest, what no, he hurt his ankle"...... _here's some smelling salts_
@@jeffreywillis4258
You MUST have gone to public school because your parents were poor. There’s no way you’d be this ignorant about NFL rules otherwise.
@@SeiyaSoiya-un4jj
Welcome to NY. Where we insult people and their family over a youtube comment dispute. Pathetic losers deserve pathetic losers. What is that? 5 loses in a row in Htown now? 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
Bills fan here and I was furious he went back in. We want to ensure a future with him, not one game (and we lost anyway!)
That's how bad they wanted to not put in Mitch Trubisky
Tua has a concussion - Everyone loses their minds
Anyone else has a concussion - Give that guy some smelling salts and say "he got his bell rung"
Allen didn't look like he was having 14 demons exorcized out of him like Tua does.
So true
Maybe if tua didn't turn into a exorcism each,time he gets hit there'd be less criticism on him..
@@tgs5725your right, he was too busy not being conscious to even be able to do Tua’s weird hand things.
@@tgs5725nah you got it all wrong. What Tue did with his hands wasn’t because of head trauma. Dude was just throwing up gang signs to show the other team that “they ain’t want the smoke” whatever that means. 😂
I saw Trevor Lawrence hit his head hard on turf last year too. He didn't go through the concussion protocol and played terrible the rest of the year. Maybe it's unrelated, but I'm pretty sure it affected his play.
My concussion from 2011 still affects my balance. I’ve never been good at throwing balls, but I imagine footwork plays a factor.
Holy fuck you lot are weak or weird or don't know what you are talking about.
Have had numerous concussions.. at worst your fine in a couple days. It does not long term effect balance to see stars a few times. Chill
I hit my head on concrete in two different accidents, similar to how Josh Allen fell, but I had no helmet on. In total, I've probably had four or five concussions. Surprisingly I was never knocked out, but I feel like I've cognitively declined at least a little bit. I can't imagine how it is for players taking blows like that almost every week of the season.
@@christianvanmatre7620 Damn, I didn't know just 1 concussion could affect you that badly.
To be fair, Lawrence just stinks
Holy that impact was bad.... He made contact to the ground much harder than Tua
Bad comparison - Tua's on his 4th official concussion after running into Damar Hamlin this year (and likely had an additional concussion that was called a *COUGH* back injury) so he's now more prone to them in the first place. That said I'm quite sure Josh was unconscious on the field.
@@AnObSmI want you to demand for Josh Allen to retire if he gets concussed again ok?
@@gtaatmiami if he starts fencing sure. But i hope yoy know this aint the first time we've seen this. Davante got laid out and did the same thing as allen
@@gtaatmiami I wouldn't demand anyone do something that doesn't directly impact me. That said, if Josh starts fencing a couple times after getting concussed, I would definitely suggest it for consideration.
I'm not going to demand everyone who just gets knocked out retire though. That's ridiculous. There are still professional sports where the goal of the match is to concuss the other dude. So yeah, no, I'm not going to demand anyone retire because they got knocked out.
@@gtaatmiamiYeah good luck with that with Josh Allen
I swear most coaches would totally Weekend at Bernie a guy if it won them a game.
🤣
3:33 the dude beside Josh Allen kind of looks like an older version of him LOL
He clearly was seeing stars when they showed his face… couldn’t tell you how the independent neurologist didn’t deem it a head injury.
“Independent” neurologist
He got paid extra to make sure Allen was ok
@@treysonmcgrady4750 Independent.... more like paid by the NFL lol
It's insane.
I used to be an athletic trainer... Definitely shouldn't be handing smelling salts to him after the blow and especially while every camera in the stadium is fixated on Josh.
Agreed. Bad look. Was that an AT that handed him the smelling salts? If so, man, oh man.... Still Leary of the whole concussion circus the League has put on.
Should smelling salts even be something they have on the sidelines?
@@klardfarkus3891 they're not illegal. But a lot of players use them for a quick hit to help their alertness, like a mini whippet. But for possible head injuries, they should not even be an option, imo.
@klardfarkus3891 Former Miami Dolphins head coach Adam Gase used them himself before games!
@@johnjunietify they don’t have to be illegal for the nfl to ban them. I will rephrase more specifically. Should the nfl ban these?
If this was tua media be going crazy 😂 100 percent he was concussed and not even checked
You had this reaction with davante too when this happened to him? Or you picking randomly
@@shadow_td Davante who? Parker? Adams? The media didn't talk about his concussion like they talk about Tua's. Davante can sit for 6 weeks like Tua did. Achane just got a concussion and he can sit for 6 weeks like Tua. Fair is fair. Everyone can sit for 6 weeks after concussed.
"It's a close game and we need our star player."
"He's all good, he just hurt his chest and ankle, nothing to see here."
This would be the end of an MMA fight!! He went back out to play another 30 mins of contact
You are right and I think the documented CTE progression in football players is more severe than in MMA fighters. I'm not certain on the exact numbers but one study that studied 111 former NFLer brains found CTE in 110 of them. People talk about how brutal MMA is but once you are unconscious, it's over, the fight is finished in seconds. Obviously the super necessary finishing blows are horrible looking but it's not provably as dangerous as this or combat sports that allow someone to continue fighting after a clear concussion
Can't believe the Bills medical staff would offer him a joint on live TV!
Yea, I thought they only do that in the tent.
To be fair, it was Allens' smoke. He buys the pre-rolls.
What!?
Um. Smelling salts.
That NY Diesel, baby
He was knocked out for a bit. I could see that from my seat...and then they let him back into the game? Cmon,.....if this was another QB they would have kept them out.
yeah it was at the end of the game as well. Not like he had a a quarter or two and got evaluated. They tossed him back in there and said screw his health we need to win.
@@beachrain8617he said screw his health also. A lot of players will try to play through an injury just because they don’t want to disappoint their teammates, coaches, management, fans. They do it for all the reasons other than themselves.
Stroud had this exact same thing happen against the jets last year. He missed a couple games for concussion protocol.
Anthony Richardson too
Both were rookies and not established stars, completely different context. You don’t let your young future star QBs have head issues, bad for the team and the NFL as a business.
@@ExclusiveExcellence
You have no context only olympic level contortions to validate far-fetched conspiracy theories.
@@jeffreywillis4258 Man… ig common sense is considered “Olympic level contusions”. Also it’s not a conspiracy theory it’s just me observing a history of players especially star saying they were pressured into playing through concussions, and this isn’t even just NFL either it’s college and high school. I’ve personally spoken to multiple D1 teammates that confided in me about being pressured to play through all kinds of injuries, including concussions, this also happened in high school even if done unintentionally.
But to relate back to the business part, because I assume you don’t disagree teams wouldn’t want their up and coming QB to have head issues (🤨right?), it absolutely would be disadvantageous to let your future stars and by extension money makers have their careers cut short or ruined even at the cost of a game or two.
@@ExclusiveExcellence
I agree with most all you said. I just don't think it can be proven that Allen is pressured to play and Stroud was not because of some "established star" nonsense. Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. Sorry.
NFL doesn't have a concussion protocol
It's all for show
Their years-old concern for "players safety" has always been a ruse. They want to add an 18th game for hell's sake! The NFL is all about money and ratings. While I enjoy the game, I can't stand the commissioner, the scum billionaire owners that exploit cities for stadiums and, the annoying marketing and advertising associated with the NFL.
@@edkiely2712 it's so they can avoid getting sued by former players moving forward. Obviously that won't work if it can be proved that the process doesn't really matter though lol
@BHox01 You're completely missing the point! Anyway, if that was such a concern, they could simply hv all players sign a waiver to be eligible to play in the league!
@@edkiely2712 I'm not disagreeing with you, just saying that that is the reason they implemented the protocol, not because they actually care.
And that's not how waivers work. Just because you sign a waiver doesn't mean the waiver itself was legal or binding.
It's called Tua protocol and doesn't apply to anybody else in the NFL. Clown League.
CTE researcher here. There is no way he should have been allowed to return. If this continues, 20 years from now he may not even remember the names of his kid. It is clear the NFL doesn’t have an evidence-based, ethical concussion protocol. Shameful.
How do you study CTE? I agree with you
I totally agree with your assessment and what I saw myself on this play . Maybe worse is the fact that none of the week 5 review shows I've watched brought this up. Thanks Brian - JohnG
Achane was taken out of the game today due to concussion and his fall wasn’t even as bad as this 🙄
Achane got rocked
And Achane never went unconscious like Allen did. He got rocked and you could see he was struggling but this play with Allen is so much more obvious
@@Boyso5407 I don’t think Allen went unconscious. But achane looked wobbly and I don’t think he wanted anymore that day.
Great job doc. Really great insight here
This is negligence on the NFL and bills and their staff. To allow him to come back in is ridiculous. This is why these rules and protocols are in place. I am a cheifs fan, but I don't like seeing any player risking their life just to play in a game. They need to protect their players better
Maybe thats why he threw 3 deep passes and nearly got sacked in his own endzone during a tie game and a minute or so to go. I think the whole team shoul be evaluated for a concussion!
I think the coach must have had a concussion for calling those plays. What a dope!
@@billyd78 probably the most idiotic play calling and clock management I've ever seen!
@@Oz_Darkr1d3r I couldn't believe my eyes. Even the announcers were like, "what the hell are they doing?" lol you never hear that on a broadcast. Crazy stuff.
I do wanna highlight something I've noticed with other players' obvious concussions and give my laymen's theory here on why players react differently to them. I know a lot of people question why some concussions are "different" or worse than others, but the reality is specifically WHERE on the brain was insulted. Why were Tua's concussions different from Josh Allen's here? Well if you look at Tua's first concussion, he hits the back of his head, and becomes ataxic. His brainstem and occipital lobe was most likely insulted which controls motor functions. He hit the back of his head AGAIN during the Bengals game concussion. Ataxic and posturing.
Josh Allen here hit the ground with the side of his head which most likely insulted the cerebrum, which explains the unconsciousness. Remember Tua never really went unconscious like Allen (a good example of fencing and complete unconsciousness was Mason Rudolph's injury against the Ravens).
Obviously all insults to the brain are severe, but where they occur matters and explains the reactions of said insults.The protocol is SUPPOSED to address all areas of insults like monitoring O2 and a simple Blood Pressure exam. Honestly I'm surprised that Basilar (base of the skull) injuries are pretty much non-existent and I hope it stays that way. Allen should have been treated EXACTLY like Tua here. Insults to the Cerebrum can put you in a pretty bad daze and possibly cause amnesia. QB's need razor sharp memory and hitting the part of the brain that stores said memory? Not good.
Again, I'm not a medical professional and this is just my observations, read books about neurology, and I speak with neurologists about this stuff. They can talk about nerves for hours.
Feel free to correct anything that I got wrong or was slightly off.
Really good explanation and good points. You say “layman” but I liked your complex medical explanations, terminology, and pathophysiology. Thank you!
@@Five_by_Five9340 I mean almost everyone has apparently forgot about Mason Rudolph's concussion several years back during the Ravens game. He was completely out for 4 whole minutes with a very obvious fencing motion.
His hit was on the chin. The jaw is a weak spot for the frontal lobe, which like the cerebrum, involves memory and cognition. Rudolph never remembered getting hit, and his performance dropped, even after taking several weeks off.
Initially, the human body ALWAYS instinctively tries to protect the head. After a severe concussion like that, the instinct is amplified. Rudolph's performance in the pocket collapsed cause he was afraid of taking another hit..
Tua though is special. The brainstem and occipital lobe are pretty damn resilient, and Tua doesn't exhibit any symptoms of Chorea or Ataxia after his concussions (that were two years ago).
Guys getting knocked out like Allen and Rudolph, and even Lawrence, end up performing much poorly. Tua, even after ALL of his concussions, never saw a significant dip in performance. Why? His memory and cognition never took a significant hit.
However don't take this as me saying Tua's concussions weren't serious. They definitely were, but again, location matters. The hospital released him the night of his 2nd (and most severe) concussion during the Bengals game. They definitely wouldn't have recommended release if there was significant trauma. (We don't know if they did, but the NFL probably would have forced Tua to stay considering it was a terrible visual on prime time).
And thank you. Visits to see people in ICU Trauma centers, neurologist visits, and studying the effects of Basilar Skull Fractures after Dale Earnhardt died made me pretty informed about neural injury.
@@rifleman1002 Oh absolutely! I was a police death investigator for 27 years, and studied a lot of post-graduate level pathology. I'm impressed by anyone who takes the time to research their health conditions (or anybody's) at a high level, since doctors seem to treat patients as if they were five-year-olds (maybe it's justified, but annoying). I appreciate you!
Josh allen is incredible to watch and im not even a bills fan. The staff and the nfl shouldnt potentially ruin this mans life over a couple of games.
Damn that's brutal 😮
I pray the medical staff is fined heavily for rushing him back on the field. Clearly was knocked out and care for a win over your QB health.
Your assumption MIGHT be true -- BUT it also very well MIGHT NOT be true. I think we need more evidence and information following an investigation. Further, I think it's irresponsible to "jump to the conclusion" that the Bills medical staff "definitely" did "something wrong" and ought to be "fined heavily" simply because of what you "THINK" you "know." NO MATTER how bad it might "look," we have to give the medical staff the "benefit of the doubt" and the "presumption of innocent until proven guilty" that they didn't do anything wrong vis-a-vis Allen for at least three key reasons:
1. The widespread NFL community (including fans and sports media) -- and the Bills in particular -- are EXTREMELY SENSITIVE to concussion issues nowadays. Don't forget that the Bills are in the same division as Miami and face Tua 2x every year in the regular season. Moreover, the Bills were the team involved in two of Tua's worst recent concussion games (in Miami 2 seasons ago, and in Miami this season) ... so NOBODY on the Bills staff takes concussions lightly.
2. Don't forget also that this is the SAME Bills medical straff that was nationally awarded and celebrated for SAVING Bills safety Damar Hamlin's life after he was "dead" on Cincinnati's field ... again, such dedicated medical profesionals who truly love their players like family are not likely predisposed to ignore a genuine concussion of their FRANCHISE QB (nor is HC and extreme "people person" Sean McDermott the sort of guy who would ever demand or improperly allow Josh Allen's return to the game or otherwise jeopardize a Bills player that way.
3. While the Bills no doubt "wanted" to win this AFC game against a team it may be battling for a wild card berth and/or playoff seeding once the season ends, NO SINGULAR game is "THAT" important to take such a huge risk on the brain health of their franchise QB. That's ESPECIALLY true THIS early in the season AND given the fact the Jets lost their game today before the Bills ever took the field against the Texans ... i.e., even if the Bills lost to the Texans, they would STILL REMAIN in first place in the AFC East, so no need to jeopardize Josh Allen by having him return to the game if he had suffered a concussion.
All that said, I'm certainly hopeful and willing for the NFL to do an investigation and interview process ... but given the above, I'm NOT yet willing to "PRESUME" the Bills medical staff acted wrongly/improperly.
@@wingedbuffalo4670all those "quotes" are probably not "necessary"
@@mikep3813 What a ridiculous and USELESS "offering" to "advance" the discussion (supposedly): actually "contributing" NOTHING substantive about the topic whatsoever -- merely a quip reflecting YOUR personal punctuation "preferences." It must have "killed you" (metaphorically speaking, of course) to have been unable to find any actual error to criticize. I suspect you're the sort of person who lives for the moment to identify and "jump on" folks' spelling, punctuation, and/or typographical errors. I, on the other hand, generally accept folks' personal style of expression and focus instead on the substance of their comments rather than worrying about individual style or typos ... as that approach tends to bear the most discussion fruit. For example, I accept that your personal written expression "style" may be to refrain from capitalizing the first word of your sentences, and to avoid any punctuation mark that would indicate that your sentences have ended -- and I couldn't care less to comment upon that. However, my primary response comment centers on the fact that, in advancing NOTHING substantive, you executed keystrokes without truly "saying" anything to the readership that might in any way spark helpful, relevant discussion -- which is a terrible shame and lost opportunity.
@@wingedbuffalo4670you’re right. The bills medical staff did nothing wrong. The independent neurologist that probably got paid pretty good to let Allen back in the game definitely did something wrong though
Zero chance there wasn't a counter coup injury with that strike. Ludicrous that he was allowed to play.
Hey can you do a video on Grayson McCall’s traumatic head injury during the N.C. state vs wake forest game on Saturday?
Still uneasy about the NFL concussion protocol. But I guess we'll see the end result over the next 20 years as these men develop CTE or not and the League faces another class action lawsuit.
The league is safer than ever. We’ve seen the worst of it.
4:16 nah it’s just a Zyn. Lol
I feel Josh’s hands did the fencing posture it’s insane he didn’t get sat down.
Josh was too tired to fence, needed a quick nappy poo
NFL: It wasn't smelling salts. It's a joint for his ankle.
Prayers to Josh🙏
These videos are great, very informative and I learn a lot! TH-cam needs more creators like Dr. Sutterer!
I want the same energy the league had for tua with this
Thank you for posting this. I’ve had many concussions and I see impacts like this so often and it’s bothersome. Keep it up. Good work
He should not be no a plane righr after a concussion that altitude will facilitate vertigo in the brain.but The the team don't care NFL or josh family.plus he was concussed last week not a word was said but 9 for 30 and highly thrown balls same symptoms as Tua vs Green bay 2yrs ago.
The way Allen is motionless on the ground looks just like Malik Nabers from the NY Giants who got concussed at the end of the game and look out on the field, fast forward to this week and he was out with a concussion would not be surprised to see the same happen for Josh if he goes into the protocol
He got rocked last week too. Got hit hard n then his head bounced off the ground
I am confident in saying this was his 2nd concussion in just as many games. Scary stuff.
Josh is always taking big hits, he is concussed way more than the Bills are telling ppl
Again (I'm from Buffalo) we see that teams really don't care about these players. Lying about an ankle just like Miami called Tuas injury "back spasms." They tried to hurry and pick Allen up. If it wasn't for the spotters, he would not have gone into the tent. He told them 'No' initially. Your observation of his left hand was spot on also the fact that he was 'laid out' not moving and the staff went right to his upper-body/head (never any focus on the knee/limping by Allen). He should not have gone back on the field. My last concussion I was out for a few seconds like Allen was. I looked normal but I my brain was messed up for about 4-5 days. And since I have a lot of experience (I lectured on brain injuries and had several from sports) I know that it takes a few months to 'recover' from a concussion (you never fully recover). Sending him back out was disturbing.
Shame on the Bills medical and training staff to put this game over their QB's health
The key difference is that Tua’s concussion happened during prime time, with all eyes glued to the screen as the only game on, making the moment even more shocking and unforgettable.
His fantasy owners saw no concussion 😊
9/30 131 yards 😂😂 he was rattled
@@jacoblopez2430 it happened in the 4th quarter.
@@judge9631 it happened last week
His fantasy owners saw no completions😂
Does turf vs grass play a factor? There’s solid concrete just a few inches below the turf field right?
NFL is fixed and certain teams/players are favored in all aspects including protocols
That is a Bill's medical staff issue, not the NFL. The NFL would have ruled him out as a healthy Allen is best for the NFL long term, but the Bil's coaches are desperate to keep their jobs after years of failing when it counts. Allen should be shut down for a few weeks after taing two hard head injuries in two weeks, because if they keep this up Allen will end up like Tua.
Thanks for breaking this down, this was horrific, and a gross failure of protocol
everyone else in the NFL has multiple concussions per season , Tua 2 in 3 seasons = he needs to retire
He's had 4 in 3 seasons
Proof NFL doesn't care about itself
Allen said he hurt his chest and and ankle on the play. But he's tough, he won't admit a concussion or whatever
So he's a liar? Now I like him even less.
Everyone outside of Houston and the Texan fans wanted the Bills to win. The announcers were cheering for the Bills most of the game. I think that Allen will be concussed after further evaluation and maybe miss the next game. They sent him out there knowing he wasn't right. The Doc was spot on the guy was out cold for a few minutes and there was nothing wrong with his ankle.
All for the L too
This injury "cover up" was handled so wrong on so many levels. Shame! The rules need to change!
Please stop saying “last year with Tua” it was in 2022. Tua did not have a concussion in 2023
Yep Tua hadn't had a concussion in almost 2 years and then has to sit for 6 weeks. Josh Allen won't even miss one week after taking a nap on the field. Fuck this league.
@@beachrain8617I’m fine with Tua missing the time. He’s being treated correctly. Allen on the other hand is being screwed over by his doctors. It’s been reported that it takes 30 days for the brain to recover from a concussion yet the nfl is giving players 5 to 10 mins to recover or at best 1 week
Bills need to be investigated asap. Also Josh Allen may need to consider retiring. 2 concussions in back to back weeks with no rest is crazy. And he was also knocked unconscious which seems worse than Tua. He’s gonna have CTE if the NFL doesn’t step in and hold the Bills accountable
Because we all know the NFL is about profit maximization. Without a starting QB, the viewer ship decreases.
Josh gets paid millions of dollars to play a violent sport. If Josh wants to play after a possible concussion, it should be his decision. People pretend to care to pacify narratives that trigger nurturing/feminine fans. All this protection for rich athletes is getting out of control.
People join the military, get deployed, and possibly lose their lives for a fraction of what these athletes make minus a zero, and no one is protesting about that. Things that actually matter.
Well said. We can both care about injuries and not be silly about it
bills need to be investigated this sketchy asl
It's amazing how we all praised the Bills medical staff 2 years ago
That's corporate greed for you. "Just use some Smelling Salts, that'll save us 25k or so in medical bills"
Everything needs to be investigated, especially the medical staff, just to rule him clear to play? That is a concussion protocol.
All of this needs to be investigated for potential Medical Malpractice or Medical Gaslighting
He was absolutely unconscious there this is the exact thing the concussion protocol is supposed to prevent same with Tua in 2022 (not last season 2023 by the way)
Money and winning are most important. That's why they pay players millions of dollars. It's really up to the individual player to actually care about their health.
Josh Allen most definitely has a concussion. Ive had 3 concussions, and anytime you hit any area of your head hard on the ground.... you most likely have caused trauma to your brain. NFL needs to do better when it comes to concussions because they're very dangerous injuries. Praying that Josh is ok, but if he has a concussion he needs to rest and recover.
Yeah this was a joke. If they play him next week than it just proves the NFL hates the Dolphins. He needs to miss at least two games. Should have miss 6 games like Tua. Fair is fair.
He is NFL superstar, there should be no surprise he came back in the game 1 play later
When I saw this on live TV i thought, what would Dr Brian think?!
Crazy so many layman can see it and they still just run him back out there. You don’t need a degree to see he had a concussion.
Love the channel and the breakdowns keep it up!
Thank you as always Dr. Sutterer. I'LL SAY IT. If the NFL stopped in its entirety, I would not be upset. I am indeed a fan, but I'm a fan of humans beings first.
If you play in the NFL, winning a game is more important than your physical and mental health. Its a job with high reward but even higher risk. Its a job in which other peoples money depends on you. Yeah, they should have re-watched the play and held him out regardless of having "no symptoms". He should have sat out for a decent time to do another reassessment of symptoms. They should never have a reason to pull out smelling salts. Most of these athletes will do anything to stay in the game because they fear losing their jobs/money/status......but when it comes to head injuries that aren't properly addressed, that's a one way ticket to CTE.
*"player safety"* is as legitimate as mfkn
*"citizens arrest"* 💀😭
He had a possible concussion last week too. That's 2 they lied about. Also a camera caught them using smelling salts. Teams don't care about players health.
This is the NFL favorite...of course he won't miss any time
Exactly, the league absolutely adores the bills
I love the Jackie Moon shout out in the background. Flinttown born and raised.
This happens in life. Some get a pass and others not. Just depends on who’s more “important” or favored.
Even last week Josh Allen took a gnarly head blow and wasn't even taken out.
Thanks, Doc, for your medical assessment!
Josh is being concussed more than they're telling us.
Isn't smelling salt for people who are unconscious?! Smh. This is unacceptable. They are playing with people's lives. There was only a few minutes left, take the L and get him help and do a thorough protocol. No one believes he hurt his ankle or chest. He didnt limp off. He didnt even get hit in the chest, dude tackled his ankles. Everything happening to Tua should have eveyone on alert and these medical "professionals" should be held accountable.
Did the doctors clear him because the NFL office ordered them to do so? Because too much betting money was on the line? I never underestimate how slimy the NFL actually is.
Could you go over what a proper assessment would be like in thai situation?
CTESPN needs to be all over this! Fantastic video doc!
They let him back in because they didn’t want to lose the game. Thats F’d up
Did anybody really think the NFL would take head injuries seriously? C'mon man.
Hey Dr. Brian Sutterer I enjoy watching your videos. I know you primarily do American sport injuries but can you also do injury breakdown videos that happen in European futbol (soccer).