How To Improve Pin Point Stance Serve (TENFITMEN - Episode 120)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- Understand the mechanics of pin point stance serve, learn important elements of it and take it to the next level // Wondering how to improve your pin point stance serve? How to hit better serves? How to serve like pros? How to hit faster and more precise serves? How to take your game to the next level? How to hit pin point stance serve like a professional?
In this video, Milan from TENFITMEN Tennis Impulse shares with you three tips (and one bonus) that will help you to improve your pin point stance serve. Hope you enjoy it!
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Just wanna say, I got into my school team thanks to your videos !
Thanks Sam for sharing, that's amazing. Congrats! Let's go, keep improving!
@@tenfitmentennisimpulse That's how I hit the big fast serves just like that but I used the platform. and before I stopped playing before Covid 19 disrupted everything and we went into lockdown on and off for several months, but the last time I completed I use the slider which makes it worse because they often don't expect the ball to go all flat down the T and then at the last second spin away from them going the opposite direction away from the T. I smashed everybody all up in the clubs with those serves when I used to play in interclub. Because the serve at those speeds half the time just goes straight through people because they are not fast enough to react to it sometimes. Some Club players are usually too slow in their reactions. They expect you to just hit the average club serve to give them time and instead you send down a big bomb that they don't have enough time on. And I did take advatange of their slow reactions. They didn't always have a good serve return.
Because when you have good clean pronation the ball reaches them in about a second of time or sometimes half a second at these kind of speeds when you really crush it in when coming off the racquet. That's why i did special one legged drills to fine tune the ball toss and the pronation. So if you can hit short wide angles at those fast speeds and if you become good at aiming short and wide not just only deep and wide then they don't have the time to always cover the court area to cutting off the big short wide serves. This is why I like going short and wide because it takes more time away... So its not necessary just about how fast the ball goes BUT ABOUT GOOD PLACEMENT in the court. But you do have to have a good reliable ball toss and also good serve mechanics. and as Milan says, alot of practice on the serve so you can be able to use it in your matches when under pressure, not just only use it in practice..
The advantage of having the RYNO is alot of club players can't touch you, they can't do much damage to you because you're doing more damage to them with the fast serves they can't handle it for very long..... And I'm convinced that Milan has got the RYNO. You really do become the Rachet of Tennis when you got have the RYNO under your belt and go around blasting other players all off the court with it or straight through or into them.
ERROR MAKING: I don't worry about mistakes whether its in groundstroke or in serves. AS LONG as I don't make the errors on the important hinge points in each game. So I don't care if I make a mistake at 0 15. or 15 ALL. or if I am up 40 15 or 40 30. But I do care if I make a mistake when down 30 15 or down 30 40. So I learnt not to worry about every single mistake that is made on the court but only be concerned on any mistakes done on cruical or important points in a match which affect the conversion of a game or outcome of a set....
You learn what to be concerned about in a match and what not to. You don't have to waste all your mental energies worrying about every single mistake made as the amateurs rec players seem to do so you learn what to focus on and what not to. And that's why we're calm and peaceful on the court and hit our shots and run over these rec players like Federer because we already got have a plan, while the club amateurs are busy tearing their hair out and bogging themselves down over worry, screaming to themselves because they thinking too much of their past errors on the less important stuff and just wasting mental energy with all the self-complaining and showing negative body language to their opponent. Usually players fall to this is they have not learnt how to focus in matches.
The coach made me practice nearly every day on the serve with training with his players to get it ready for deploying in the interclub matches. I didn't practice on Sundays but on other days I did practice and training. and I had 11 wins in singles and only 1 loss that season as a result destroyed almost the whole entire field. But I had to put in all the hard work and sacrifice to get those kind of results.
I feel like many feel pinpoint is inferior but it’s cool you actually made a video to promote it. I tried to go to platform but my natural inclination is pinpoint. I’m leaning towards just keeping what I have and find ways to improve it.
Thanks for sharing that, sounds good. Keep it up!
Just wanted to say thanks, with all the tennis videos out there, I find your videos the most impactful on my tennis training. simple yet effective, I'm still learning/improving. After playing tennis, I watch your videos again to evaluate what I did wrong..
Thanks so much for your kind words, means so much! It's great to rewatch the videos, I suggest you also record yourself as much as possible and in that way keep track of the progress in easier and more accurate way!
Can’t agree more. I ‘be been watching lots of TH-cam to improve my serve but didn’t help me one bit, this one is the best.
very interesting what you say good coach think you
Best explanation and advice on the pinpoint serve.
Very useful. Many thanks for your help
Bravo Milan for your enthusiasm and kindness in helping us improve tennis shots
I’m inspired by your beautiful serve to change my stance. Thanks for these tips! Hopefully the transition will go smoothly!
Thanks for another great video 😀👌🏻 Will try it 🚀
Thanks Daniel! Glad you like it, hope it works for you. Let us know how it goes!
Milan, great tips. Thanks!
Merci Milan from France ;-) great video.
Thanks, greetings for France from China!
best pinpoint serve video ever
Great instructions, thanks for sharing!
Thanks, glad you find it useful!
Great job breaking the pinpoint serve progressions!
Really good explanation of the pin point serve
Started using these tips, more depth and speed and shape with my serve. Thanks for the video!!
Another awesome video with unique information. Thanks!
Thanks so much, glad to hear that! Please if you can, share it with few friends who might find it useful as well!
@@tenfitmentennisimpulse Will do. I am in the process of rebuilding my serve and have made good progress 4 weeks into it. Now considering moving from platform to pinpoint. What's your thought on this? I think all wta and about 80% of ATP pros use pinpoint it seems.
You are so good & ur hands on experience.
Thx
Prince
I’m right in the process of cleaning up my PP serve, I’m struggling a little with the timing of the toss. Was trying to watch all your servers to see where the toss arm momentum came from. Love some clarification. Thx!
Thanks Jane. As I explained in this video, tossing arm goes up a bit before you start putting feet together and then making your racquet drop. But what's crucial here is also the height of your toss. You have to work with it and find the right height for timing of your swing. Usually higher toss will make it more difficult to find the rhythm and timing simply because you have too much time at hand. I often recommend a bit lower toss. Hope this helps!
Just What I needed to improviseret my pin point stance 👏
Best Video on this topic .. Good work .. Thanks !!!
Looks so powerful 💪...
Great tips and explanations !
Please add more details about torso rotation. 👊SRB 👊
Hvala Srdjane! :)
"Och aye the noo"@@tenfitmentennisimpulse
Really easy to learn cheers mate.
Been watching your videos for a while now and I find it very helpful. I like your style of teaching and your own techniques too. Not too many long talks. You are more of a show guy and to me it is or they are very effective. Been applying some of your tips in my game this video (Pin Point Stance Serve) particularly as I have a weak serve (I am a 4.0) and still looking for a sustainable serve. I have adapted this style. I just need to time all the parts. I know - practice, practice, practice. I use you as my visualization so that helps. Keep up the great job!!
Thanks so much Nancy, really happy to hear it, appreciate your kind words. You are absolutely right, it takes time and a lot of repetition. Part about visualization sounds awesome! :) Let's go!
@@tenfitmentennisimpulse if I may add - your videos are game changers! :)
Extremely helpful!!! Thank you!!
Thanks, it's very helpful 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks so much! Glad you find it useful!
Great video! For your tip #1: both Casper Ruud and Ben Shelton move the back foot up as they release the ball rather than waiting as you suggest. Any thoughts on this?
This video deserves more views!
I believe I will try to do pinpoint, played with it a little bit and got discouraged quickly, but understand why, struggle swinging up and out which I believe why so many academy kids are being taught this serve. Also I heard you explain to a viewer why a lower toss is good for this serve, when I tried this serve before I tossed to high and lost momentum when I brought back leg forward, serve felt awkward, will try lower toss, and hope my struggling racket drop will drop more naturally without trying to drop it, I do try to keep lose grip
hey could you do more work out videos and a video about what you pack in your tennis bag. Thanks you are great
Thanks Adrien for your suggestions, definitely will do!
Please elaborate on the benefit of rotating your left heel at front in the serve?
I mentioned in the video, you get better position of your hips orientation so you get more body rotation during the serve. Hope this helps!
Hey Milan, did you watch the event in Shanghai yesterday? Two Chinese top male amateurs vs. WTA top 100 female doubles. It was a really exciting match and a very good event to promote amateur tennis in my point of view. Really wanna see you in some similar events in the future haha ☺
Nope, didn't watch it, haven't even heard about it! :)
@@tenfitmentennisimpulse What a pity. It was a pretty close match. Just FYI, amateur players won by 5-7, 6-3 and 12-10. The sponsor should have promoted it and made it available through more channels.
Loved the new end of video. You're very funny, great work.
awesome
I’m a pin pointer. I like your lesson. The wider stance and special twist of the front foot are great ideas. I like that you don’t step back with your rear foot. That move has made my toss more difficult. My problem is that I tend to bring my rear foot too far the right which inhibits hip turn. Any ideas on how to stop doing that.
Thanks for sharing your situation Jerry. That's very common problem with a lot of players at all levels. I think that a good approach is to start thinking how your hips should be oriented as you put feet together and before you start unloading and going up. Hips should be facing the side fence or even more towards the back side of the court. That should make your feet naturally come into the correct place. Also make sure you're starting with a right feet placement: rear foot should be more to the left in relation to front foot (if you're right handed). Hope this helps!
very nice video i also learnt backhand
Thanks for the video. I tried to change to platform for a while as I thought it was more stable. After a while I realised I was still struggling to transfer weight and just couldn’t get any leg drive. Gone back to pinpoint and it just feels more natural to me.
BTW Rafa has a pinpoint not a platform.
Rafa started with a platform and slowly transitioned into a pinpoint during his career
Thanks Tim for sharing! You're definitely right about Rafa! :P
Love from india....❤️
Sending ❤️ back! :)
I just realized that I am doing all of these things :)). Could you go over the kinetic chain on serves from the legs, hips, to the arms.
I noticed a lot of club players (I am a club player) that use a pin-point stance let their torso and shoulders rotate almost parallel to the net when the feet come together. Doesn’t that “leak” power from the serve? In other words, if I am hitting a flat serve when the feet come together shouldn’t my shoulders at a maximum be at a 45 degree angle to the net and facing the side fence for a kick? It seems like your “ left foot pivot tip” ensures we don’t over rotate early in the swing. PS - Great video again!
Great observation and analysis. I believe you are right, we definitely shouldn't turn too early because in that way we use all the potential rotational power and energy. Turn should come as we are going up to hit the ball!
Which model racquet did you use? Is it Wilson Pro Staff 97 Black and White Beautifulcoloristic, with Countervail ( sometimes called ugly technology)?
Did he say that Rafa uses a platform stance?
You are great
Thanks so much! :)
Can you also do on slice serve step by step
I would love to see you against the former D1 player of mytennisHQ! would be heck of a match. I forgot his name but he is the hitting partner of osaka
Let's do it! :)
@@tenfitmentennisimpulse Here is a link to his video. th-cam.com/video/mJ9g0nWZBoY/w-d-xo.html
@@tenfitmentennisimpulse His name is Karue
Milan is the better player. Better serve and volley. The other guy is more of a defensive player. I like the other guy ‘s forehand better though. I have always felt like Milan is a little too tight with his forehand. I guess it is because he has been coaching and being a hitting partner. Do not get me wrong. Milan’s forehand Is very consistent and has excellent control. but I felt like sometimes his arm is not loose enough and some strokes doesn’t have enough lagging. In another word, Milan played a little tight. Loosen up a little bit and finish the elbow a little bit higher for more spin. I felt like Milan could still compete at the pro level with his big serve.
❤excellent
I thought nadal does pinpoint not platform?
Yes, my mistake! :)
Good video. I have the pp stance. And also twist. Front foot as you shown when shifting weight forward. None of the top player with pinpoint stance twist the front foot. Why is that you think?
Thanks man
Hi Milan, you have uploaded in 720p again, if you don’t believe me go and click on your video and check the upload quality
Yes I realized, just not sure how to fix it. I guess I need to change Final Cut Pro exporting setting?
Which model racquet did you use in this video?
Wilson Pro Staff 97 CV black and white, or Pro Staff 97 L ( without CV) Black and White ?
Miiilllannneeeee, great content man. Question about how you place the front foot: how do u direct the serve using pinpoint stance? For example, I decide to go for the T on deuce side. Does the front food get closed off more as you pivot to prevent yourself from opening up? And another thing I was wondering: I see some players differ in the way the place their back foot on the pin point stance in different positions once they are making contact. Does the position of the back foot matter or do players for the most part try to position the back foot parallel to the front foot?
I noticed all the big servers are pin point and the more accurate/placement servers do platform. Is there an explanation for that?
Good point. I guess pin point gives more drive and power, but you also have Sam Groth, world's fastest server, who uses platform stance.. There is no really any rule! :)
Thanks for video. My problem with me is that my right foot goes too far to the right of my left foot.
Did you mean rafa nadal has a pinpoint stance?
I think you said Rafael nadal used platform stance, but he uses pin point. Maybe early on in his career he had platform, but he evolved into pin point stance
But Nadal use pinpoint right?
Sorry - I try again (my iPad change words to danish) Just what I needed to improve my pin point stance
Hi Milan, is it possible to train with you? How can i contact u
Альтравита put like for you but it doesn't work like don't open check TH-cam what happens when the light you like
Isn’t Nadal’s pinpoint?
Yes! My bad! :)
Nadal use pinstep
Nadal uses a pin point stance btw
Downside is that it wears your soles out even earlier!
That’s a positive for me since I have the Nike vapor cage 4 and I have multiple pairs with warranty that I need to wear out fast
@@jonathanchen1026 I have too using the Asics resolution and barricades in the past, but it only covers one pair!
@@toddpreisler8963 yah only covers 1 pair, it works out for me because I have 3 pairs each with its own warranty, so I need to wear em out fast haha, bought 1 pair from Nike site on sale for 66$
Nadal uses pinpoint, not platform
I love your videos. Less talk, more show.