It's always cool to see woodworkers supporting one another. Tools designed and created by woodworkers, especially like someone as experienced as Allan, seem to be well thought out and actually satisfy a need. Necessity is indeed the mother of invention.
I put this on an early 50's Craftsman table saw that was given to me. I think the capacity was 13" with the original fence. This thing made that craftsman cut dead on. I just bought a new cabinet saw (Harvey tools) and will be putting this fence on it. Always enjoy your videos.
I crave for a workshop like you have. All the necessary machines to get the job done fast and accurate. It's like you're living your dream. Keep up the good work, buddy.
these are industrial aluminuim profiles, and they are made for structural purpose with the ability to connect anything anywhere inline with the tracks, this is some high quality stuff you got here man!
I honestly don't think the results would have been questions at all. If you recall, the Clear Vue Mini didn't do so well in that test. In spite of that review, the company was still interested in working with us. Now that's integrity!
This is a very good upgrade for the table saw. I like that there is an infinite amount of possibilities for add on jigs. One of these will be in my future.
As always fabulous production informative without the crap that other channels add in direct no BS information from a veteran woodworker! Thank you very much I hope you’re enjoying your Christmas vacation with your wife and your children! You’re a good man
good on you for supporting other u-tubers and small business I love the fact that you can adjust that fence front and back say if your cutting long pieces and need more registration in front of the blade or flip it on it's side for thin stock. beauty. Great vid as always.
All right you SOB, this is the third time you've showcased something that I absolutely have to have. One more indecent like this and you'll have to answer to my wife! Seriously man, you're running me into the poor house, but I love the stuff you do. Keep up the good work, just don't tell my wife that I said so.
That phenomenon you describe--the valleys on the delrin fence plates from Powermatic--is addressed by the manufacturer via Adam Savage. How they are installed is critical to their straightness. I still love the t-slot fence better, though.
Honestly, I've been using it the whole time but haven't done anything special with it. It's a reliable fence and when I have time, I'll add more functionality to it. But due to my current schedule, I have no time for extra stuff like that. So as soon as I have anything useful to add, I'll certainly do an update.
I just discovered how un-straight, not at 90º and slightly warped my fence is. Sadly this fence wont fit my cheap saw, but I like the idea of using aluminium (English, sorry) extrusion as it is so versatile.
That is extremely similar to the fence that came with my Ridgid R4512. It's too bad they made the rail system 2 pieces because the aluminium fence with the T tracks was awesome. Making jigs is incredibly easy.
Apples and oranges, really. The VSC is really just an upgraded fence. A system like the Incra not only gives you an upgraded fence, but a complete micro-adjustment system, new rails, and a completely different way of positioning the fence for work. Personally, I'm not a fan of the LS32-TS. I prefer the simplicity of the Beisemeyer style. So that's why the VSC fence works well for me as it's nice and straight and has the t-tracks ready to go.
On a sliding table saw, Prima 2500 for example, the fence slides forward and back aiding in the alignment of ripping a large sheet, don't need much length after the blade but extending the fence in the front would be awesome.
I was thinking about replacing the side of my Table saw fence with an extrusion like you showcased here in your video. Pretty simple and a trip to eBay to get the length I need should work. Thanks
Marc, Being the leader in the video training of wood working - my suggestion to help these guys is do a little more of what you just did. Based on your video I would buy this fence - going over to the website (probably a little too harsh) It looked "fly-by-night" and basically untrustworthy! It is simply - you and Nicole put out an EXTREMELY professional learning program - they should too and I think you can help. Just my little opinion!
Allen/askwoodman, the designer of this fence is a great guy and it's so nice to see you demonstrating one of his products. He and the British woodworker Paul Sellars are two of the most approachable guys in youtube's woodwork instructors community. Since birds of a feather flock together I'll bet your a pretty good guy yourself. I've been watching you for a while now and I'm almost tempted to unsubscribe so I can subscribe again in appreciation of you. God bless and keep up the good work.
Awesome seeing Allan's and his partners tools on your channel. Been a long time viewer of both channels and nice to watch you show a great American made product. Whenever I need insight or inspiration I look to AskWoodman or The Wood Whisperer. Can't wait until I can get the time to join the guild.
I know people who use wood or sheetgoods to make fences and have no trouble. It's a good shop-made solution. Personally I prefer metal for the reasons you mentioned.
In most cases that's a good rule of thumb. But in some cases it isn't necessary. Every laminate countertop I have ever seen has been laminated on only one side. Even still, in the case of this fence, it is always bolted to a straight fence, so any warping will be clamped out once the bolts are doing their job. On a piece of 1/2" ply like this, I would expect some warpage but nothing too dramatic.
Very clever. The sponsors built such a huge shop so all the other equipment can be seen in a wide shot. The Powermatic head of marketing deserves a big well done on this. TH-cam is becoming a definite leading media choice for companies like these, who would never afford film media in other channels, like TV. Wood whisperer (what's his name?) has become a show with a presenter rather than a person. I wonder how Powermatic will measure their ROI on this. Really interesting development.
Where in the world did you get the idea that WMH Tool Group built Marc's shop? Do you think that Marc has enough subscribers for a company to invest $75K plus on his shop, plus equipment? It doesn't work that way. He built the shop with his own money like the rest of us. Maybe he should spray paint the tools white and black out the labels. The fact that he uses any particular manufacturer's tools has no bearing on the content of his builds. He could do the same thing with Festool, Sawstop, Laguna, Felder, Minimax, Martin, or Altendorf. It doesn't matter. The tool is a means to an end. He is a personable guy who over the last 6-7 years has built a loyal following long before any sponsors came on to the scene. Is Norm Abrams a hack as well since WMH sponsors him too? We watch what he does, not what he does it with.
+Jåsøn ß and it's incredibly presumptuous for you to think my sponsors paid for my shop. Nicole and I took out a loan in order to afford to build the shop.
well thanks for the kind words. Sounds like I made a good choice in reviewing this product. They do seem like a nice bunch of people and I like to support the efforts of people like that. Thanks for staying subscribed. :)
Hey man my name is Henrique I'm from Brazil... After I found your channel but I can not stop watching your videos, it seems so easy to do things that you do that will make too... congratulations for your channel, I'm your fan, follow you on facebook also to learn some new things!
I started noticing swirl marks in my workpieces from a blade that used to cut like glass. This could be one of those things that has been that way forever and I just never noticed it, but I don't think that is the case. I had the blad professionally sharpened by a company that does it on CNC and the blade still makes the swirl marks. It's a Freud industrial 80T ultimate cutoff.
Hi Marc, now that you've been using this for a few month, maybe you could create a short follow up video to say how it's going with the fence. Also would be interesting see any jigs you might have created for it or hear how you've been using it.
Very nice. Heh your table saw is just about as large as my small shed where I can do woodworking. You are spoiled with so much space. And.. your workshop looks like a cleanroom. Good job.
I designed and built something similar using 80/20 10 series extrusions except I'm also using aluminum extrusion rails and my system costs significantly less.
Great fence indeed just wonder why that one screw is in line with the center of the blade. Maybe push it forward a bit more till it passes the blade entry/exit point
I don't know about "best", as there are tons of books on various area of woodworking. Both Taunton and Popular Woodworking put out some excellent content in book form.
I saw other comments about this, you got it free etc. I have watched a lot of your videos, I know if it were crap you would tell us, keep on fighting the good fight and Thank You for your wisdom.
I put this on my rigid table saw. It was AWESOME! I then thought I was upgrading and bought a Powermatic PM2000. Compared to the VSC, it was absolute garbage. Talk about regret. I need to buy a VSC for the Powermatic.
Could just be a general calibration issue. If the fence were moving away from the blade, I don't know that extra mill marks would be the results as you are moving away from the blade. Might be worth running some test pieces and having someone observe the back of the fence to see if it really moves in use and if so, how much.
That looks like a lot of air under the aluminium extrusion. Won't that become an issue with thin material? Looks like anything under 1/4" might become a problem...
Haven't really noticed it on this setup, nor on my previous PM2000 fence. How are you detecting the movement? Is it something that's happening in use? Even if it moves when pushed with your hand at the back, that might not really be a problem in use.
Biesemeyer sytle fences seem to be pretty much unheard of in the UK. My new saw doesn't have one but to be honest the fence system it has is pretty good, it's an aluminium extrusion which is pretty nice as it already has the t-tracks, not sure how much I will use that feature but it is cool to have it there. :) Cool product this one nonetheless!
I have an old Steel City Tools 3 HP cabinet saw w/52" rip capacity, The nylon threaded set screws on the fence for adjustment broke and I can't find replacement parts for it. Steel City Tools was bought by a Canadian company and they don't have the parts for the older saws anymore so I was thinking about the very super cool tools fence from your 2012 video. Do you still use the vsctools table saw fence, if not , why? Love your videos!
macduff used the same extrusion for the fence, but the biggest difference and thinking out of the box is the fence being fixed or stationary on the the table which slides left and right to by pass the blade for the width of cut up to 49 ins, it is pure dead simple with no deviation ever. It has a name. slainte mhath
I noticed the Wood Whisperer Logo above the Air Filtered moved at the 5:50 mark. I think it needs to be bigger and slightly lower than it is now. Scratch that, slightly lower than it was in the video.
I bought my aluminum tee nut fence in the late 90s Nothing new there Bought from Peach tree woodworking supply's I have on on my table saw and my router table .. Best thing ever made ..
Great video as always Marc! Do you know if they sell a front and back rail for the table saw to accommodate for this fence? I have a Ridgid R4512 and I don't think that fence would fit correctly. But I do know that the rails on my saw can be changed out. Thanks.
I just recently found your videos and thanks to you I have done nothing but watch youtube for the last 3 days. You are awesome. Regarding the fence do you get much movement towards the back of the fence. I have a PM 66 saw and my acufence moves up to an 1/8" towards the back of the fence (side to side) and I cant get it to stop. I have tried all the obvious stuff with no luck (tighten rails, tighten adjustments, etc.).
Sadly I have the "same" Craftsman (1990) saw with the "must adjust both front and back" fence every single time it is moved. I have to measure from the fence to a slot because the distal end kicks to the side when I lock the fence down. I don't know if there are good aftermarket fences for such an old thing.
On the Very Super Cool Tools site he actually has a full set of links to youtube videos and instructions on how to make your own from some raw metal. No welding needed, but some drilling, and he goes into way way more detail than really needed.
I have to tell you, I much more prefer my Incra system that I have for both my tablesaw and router table. When the incra fence system is used with the JESSEM Clear-Cut Precision Stock Guides, you can't go wrong, plus I can use a track system like that on the fence you're currently reviewing.
Brian Rodriguez I'm an Incra user too and have been for about 7 years now. The cuts are very accurate but I'm not sure it's any more accurate than a Beisemeyer. I've also noticed that over the years there's been some play introduced into the lead screw when locked down and it's not as great as it was brand new. There's a good amount of shimmy when the arm is out a few inches from extreme and I HAVE to lock the fence down to the rail track now to keep it from moving. Beisemeyer fences lock down by default in the same manner I'm having to "double" with the Incra so I'm not completely sure I'd get another one, but it's okay as long as I have it I guess. The micro-adjust sounded super cool but to be honest the only time I've ever used it was when I was calibrating the fence for initial use. The reason I haven't swapped it out is because I've got an on-table routing extension that uses the rails, and also the WonderFence piece keeps me from needing a standalone router table. I actually did have a standalone router table with that system as well but sold it because there was too much space in the shop I wasn't using for that. The half nut that engages the acme screw used to be much tighter and I never had to do that. It's typical for a half nut to become worn but I didn't expect that in 7 years, especially since it took 30 to wear one out on a screw cutting lathe :-P I can only assume that's because they may have used a substandard softer metal for the half nut and what used to be a rock solid system has become someone flimsy and to recover that I'd have to buy another positioner. I'm not terribly interested in that.
+The Wood Whisperer, I see this video is from 2012. Do you still use this fence? And if so or even if not could you please do another video showing where you are currently with you fence issues. Thanks and love your channel the most. i am a very new, self and youtube taught woodworker just getting started.
There are a few components to building a table saw. One plan I found which succeeds in merging these is the Wilfs wood blueprint (check it out on google) without a doubt the best guide that I've seen. Check out all the super info .
I didn't notice the date for your super cool tool video for the table saw fence. How do you like it now that you've used it for a while? I'm thinking of getting one myself, just hope it will fit my 3 h.p. Steel City table saw.
Honestly there isn't much to it. As long as you get the tape in roughly the same position, you can make the fine adjustment where the little plastic window attaches to the fence. Should be a pretty quick job.
Mark, I like this idea a lot but think the prices they are asking are out of touch. $350 for a 48” fence is bordering obscene. I’d think they could do far better in profit on volume if they charged half this much ...or less. There can’t be much more than $60 in parts here. Maybe a pro finish carpenter can rationalize this - I can’t, especially since I already have all the jigs I can use made for my Biesenmier style fence and they work just fine.
In regards to the Biesemeyer fence, do you know if their still made in the US ? I'm going to replace my Delta unisaw with either the Biesemeyer or a Vega fence.
I just bought the Vega after reading the Biesemeyer reviews on Amazon. It sounds like Delta has really screwed it up since buying them. The Vega was easy to install on my old direct drive 12" Craftsman, and so far I am happy with it. I didn't go with the VSCT because I have way too much to try to get done already without also having to make a set of guide rails too.
80/20 stock. Google it. Its aircraft aluminum 6061 and they have all kinds of stuff for that system let alone using it as a fence. You can cut it with a none ferious 80tooth sawblade made by deilblo . I have one on my RAS it almost never comes off. You can build work benches, cabinets carts. Its an eractor set of parts even gulids I'm going to bet your own home made lathe for wood. You can buy direct, or buy it from festonal or even off amazon. In 4' pieces. Direct 10' sticks I think.
Hi, I am currently building a fence for a smaller table saw that I am extending and wondered about the height and width of the main aluminium part of the fence, could you share them please?
That really is an amazing fence just checked out the web site for a price & I don't think so to get one here in Australia it would cost me twice what I paid for my saw very nice but just to expensive
Hi , I have a dewalt745 table saw and I like to upgrade. I live out of US and is not possible to find inch iron tubing, as VSCT shows in drawings to build own support for the fence. VSCT help me and provide options to build the rail with metric tubing. Other option that I am thinking to buy is incra, at the end the cost will be the same. Any comments about which choose?
This fence design looks like a rip off of one I have been using for a few years. Check out the Red Line fence system. It was designed by a guy in Canada. Like this fence, the extruded aluminum grove design is great for making jigs that can attach directly to the fence. I guess the benefit to this fence is that those with an existing Biesemeyer can effortlessly switch over.
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It's always cool to see woodworkers supporting one another. Tools designed and created by woodworkers, especially like someone as experienced as Allan, seem to be well thought out and actually satisfy a need. Necessity is indeed the mother of invention.
I put this on an early 50's Craftsman table saw that was given to me. I think the capacity was 13" with the original fence. This thing made that craftsman cut dead on. I just bought a new cabinet saw (Harvey tools) and will be putting this fence on it. Always enjoy your videos.
I followed AskWoodMan's video series to build my own VSC Fence and I LOVE IT! It is 100% accurate and very, very flexible. Amazing product.
I crave for a workshop like you have. All the necessary machines to get the job done fast and accurate. It's like you're living your dream. Keep up the good work, buddy.
these are industrial aluminuim profiles, and they are made for structural purpose with the ability to connect anything anywhere inline with the tracks, this is some high quality stuff you got here man!
I honestly don't think the results would have been questions at all. If you recall, the Clear Vue Mini didn't do so well in that test. In spite of that review, the company was still interested in working with us. Now that's integrity!
Allan is a smart guy. His work bench ideas are also awesome.
This is a very good upgrade for the table saw. I like that there is an infinite amount of possibilities for add on jigs. One of these will be in my future.
I'm in Jamaica 🇯🇲 and I saw the guy that made those and I made one for my self thanks to him
As always fabulous production informative without the crap that other channels add in direct no BS information from a veteran woodworker! Thank you very much I hope you’re enjoying your Christmas vacation with your wife and your children! You’re a good man
good on you for supporting other u-tubers and small business I love the fact that you can adjust that fence front and back say if your cutting long pieces and need more registration in front of the blade or flip it on it's side for thin stock. beauty. Great vid as always.
All right you SOB, this is the third time you've showcased something that I absolutely have to have. One more indecent like this and you'll have to answer to my wife!
Seriously man, you're running me into the poor house, but I love the stuff you do. Keep up the good work, just don't tell my wife that I said so.
That phenomenon you describe--the valleys on the delrin fence plates from Powermatic--is addressed by the manufacturer via Adam Savage. How they are installed is critical to their straightness. I still love the t-slot fence better, though.
Honestly, I've been using it the whole time but haven't done anything special with it. It's a reliable fence and when I have time, I'll add more functionality to it. But due to my current schedule, I have no time for extra stuff like that. So as soon as I have anything useful to add, I'll certainly do an update.
Hi Marc, what have you done with the fence over the past 6 years? Thank you : )
wow this shop is beautiful. heaven on earth..
I just discovered how un-straight, not at 90º and slightly warped my fence is. Sadly this fence wont fit my cheap saw, but I like the idea of using aluminium (English, sorry) extrusion as it is so versatile.
Wow. This is a pretty amazing new "system" - certainly not just a fence. I'm going to talk to Santa and see if I can get one soon.
If you are happy with your existing fence, you can buy this extrusion from 80/20 and easily bolt it to your fence for added versatility.
Calibrated the rod style it took som doing but the alignment is spot on .
Not that I'm aware of, but I do believe they are working on a solution for non-Biesemeyer fence systems.
Who else loves these videos?
This shop was great, and the envy of me... However, your new shop in CO has personality and really screams you and your family!
That is extremely similar to the fence that came with my Ridgid R4512. It's too bad they made the rail system 2 pieces because the aluminium fence with the T tracks was awesome. Making jigs is incredibly easy.
Apples and oranges, really. The VSC is really just an upgraded fence. A system like the Incra not only gives you an upgraded fence, but a complete micro-adjustment system, new rails, and a completely different way of positioning the fence for work. Personally, I'm not a fan of the LS32-TS. I prefer the simplicity of the Beisemeyer style. So that's why the VSC fence works well for me as it's nice and straight and has the t-tracks ready to go.
The tall fence addition is awesome but wish the bolts were further apart near the blade.
I have this fence, all I can say is buy it, it's a awesome fence.
On a sliding table saw, Prima 2500 for example, the fence slides forward and back aiding in the alignment of ripping a large sheet, don't need much length after the blade but extending the fence in the front would be awesome.
I was thinking about replacing the side of my Table saw fence with an extrusion like you showcased here in your video. Pretty simple and a trip to eBay to get the length I need should work. Thanks
Marc,
Being the leader in the video training of wood working - my suggestion to help these guys is do a little more of what you just did. Based on your video I would buy this fence - going over to the website (probably a little too harsh) It looked "fly-by-night" and basically untrustworthy! It is simply - you and Nicole put out an EXTREMELY professional learning program - they should too and I think you can help.
Just my little opinion!
Man what a beautiful workshop you have very nice and clean and filed up whit tools i only can dream off. Awsome
wow man, thats look like laboratory not wood shop. well done. very neat & clean.
Allen/askwoodman, the designer of this fence is a great guy and it's so nice to see you demonstrating one of his products. He and the British woodworker Paul Sellars are two of the most approachable guys in youtube's woodwork instructors community. Since birds of a feather flock together I'll bet your a pretty good guy yourself. I've been watching you for a while now and I'm almost tempted to unsubscribe so I can subscribe again in appreciation of you. God bless and keep up the good work.
Awesome seeing Allan's and his partners tools on your channel. Been a long time viewer of both channels and nice to watch you show a great American made product. Whenever I need insight or inspiration I look to AskWoodman or The Wood Whisperer. Can't wait until I can get the time to join the guild.
I know people who use wood or sheetgoods to make fences and have no trouble. It's a good shop-made solution. Personally I prefer metal for the reasons you mentioned.
P.S. I think that it is 8020 extruded aluminium. Nuts = drop in t-nuts. My high school used this stuff for the FIRST robotics program.
Good stuff looking after those that scratch your back. Especially when it is a great product! Cheers, Aussie Sean
In most cases that's a good rule of thumb. But in some cases it isn't necessary. Every laminate countertop I have ever seen has been laminated on only one side. Even still, in the case of this fence, it is always bolted to a straight fence, so any warping will be clamped out once the bolts are doing their job. On a piece of 1/2" ply like this, I would expect some warpage but nothing too dramatic.
Very clever. The sponsors built such a huge shop so all the other equipment can be seen in a wide shot. The Powermatic head of marketing deserves a big well done on this. TH-cam is becoming a definite leading media choice for companies like these, who would never afford film media in other channels, like TV. Wood whisperer (what's his name?) has become a show with a presenter rather than a person. I wonder how Powermatic will measure their ROI on this. Really interesting development.
Where in the world did you get the idea that WMH Tool Group built Marc's shop? Do you think that Marc has enough subscribers for a company to invest $75K plus on his shop, plus equipment? It doesn't work that way. He built the shop with his own money like the rest of us. Maybe he should spray paint the tools white and black out the labels. The fact that he uses any particular manufacturer's tools has no bearing on the content of his builds. He could do the same thing with Festool, Sawstop, Laguna, Felder, Minimax, Martin, or Altendorf. It doesn't matter. The tool is a means to an end. He is a personable guy who over the last 6-7 years has built a loyal following long before any sponsors came on to the scene. Is Norm Abrams a hack as well since WMH sponsors him too? We watch what he does, not what he does it with.
Jåsøn ß your comment is just stupid.
It's incredibly naive to think he isn't sponsored and paid to do this. Good on him though, he's worked hard to get to this point.
+Jåsøn ß and it's incredibly presumptuous for you to think my sponsors paid for my shop. Nicole and I took out a loan in order to afford to build the shop.
...if they haven't paid for it, then they should have.
well thanks for the kind words. Sounds like I made a good choice in reviewing this product. They do seem like a nice bunch of people and I like to support the efforts of people like that. Thanks for staying subscribed. :)
Hey man my name is Henrique I'm from Brazil...
After I found your channel but I can not stop watching your videos, it seems so easy to do things that you do that will make too...
congratulations for your channel, I'm your fan, follow you on facebook also to learn some new things!
I started noticing swirl marks in my workpieces from a blade that used to cut like glass. This could be one of those things that has been that way forever and I just never noticed it, but I don't think that is the case. I had the blad professionally sharpened by a company that does it on CNC and the blade still makes the swirl marks. It's a Freud industrial 80T ultimate cutoff.
Hi Marc, now that you've been using this for a few month, maybe you could create a short follow up video to say how it's going with the fence. Also would be interesting see any jigs you might have created for it or hear how you've been using it.
Very nice. Heh your table saw is just about as large as my small shed where I can do woodworking. You are spoiled with so much space. And.. your workshop looks like a cleanroom.
Good job.
Hey man, do you have any shows with that Powermatic Chisel mortiser? It looks like it is set up to do the lack mortises in this video.
I designed and built something similar using 80/20 10 series extrusions except I'm also using aluminum extrusion rails and my system costs significantly less.
Great fence indeed just wonder why that one screw is in line with the center of the blade. Maybe push it forward a bit more till it passes the blade entry/exit point
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I don't know about "best", as there are tons of books on various area of woodworking. Both Taunton and Popular Woodworking put out some excellent content in book form.
I saw other comments about this, you got it free etc. I have watched a lot of your videos, I know if it were crap you would tell us, keep on fighting the good fight and Thank You for your wisdom.
Thanks George!
I put this on my rigid table saw. It was AWESOME! I then thought I was upgrading and bought a Powermatic PM2000. Compared to the VSC, it was absolute garbage. Talk about regret. I need to buy a VSC for the Powermatic.
Could just be a general calibration issue. If the fence were moving away from the blade, I don't know that extra mill marks would be the results as you are moving away from the blade. Might be worth running some test pieces and having someone observe the back of the fence to see if it really moves in use and if so, how much.
Yeah it is fully dependent on the square rail setup.
How much did this fence cost?
That looks like a lot of air under the aluminium extrusion. Won't that become an issue with thin material? Looks like anything under 1/4" might become a problem...
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Good information but you ought to have a link.
Haven't really noticed it on this setup, nor on my previous PM2000 fence. How are you detecting the movement? Is it something that's happening in use? Even if it moves when pushed with your hand at the back, that might not really be a problem in use.
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Do you mean too clean?
Biesemeyer sytle fences seem to be pretty much unheard of in the UK. My new saw doesn't have one but to be honest the fence system it has is pretty good, it's an aluminium extrusion which is pretty nice as it already has the t-tracks, not sure how much I will use that feature but it is cool to have it there. :) Cool product this one nonetheless!
I have an old Steel City Tools 3 HP cabinet saw w/52" rip capacity, The nylon threaded set screws on the fence for adjustment broke and I can't find replacement parts for it. Steel City Tools was bought by a Canadian company and they don't have the parts for the older saws anymore so I was thinking about the very super cool tools fence from your 2012 video. Do you still use the vsctools table saw fence, if not , why? Love your videos!
macduff used the same extrusion for the fence, but the biggest difference and thinking out of the box is the fence being fixed or stationary on the the table which slides left and right to by pass the blade for the width of cut up to 49 ins, it is pure dead simple with no deviation ever. It has a name. slainte mhath
I noticed the Wood Whisperer Logo above the Air Filtered moved at the 5:50 mark. I think it needs to be bigger and slightly lower than it is now. Scratch that, slightly lower than it was in the video.
I bought my aluminum tee nut fence in the late 90s
Nothing new there
Bought from Peach tree woodworking supply's
I have on on my table saw and my router table ..
Best thing ever made ..
Great video as always Marc! Do you know if they sell a front and back rail for the table saw to accommodate for this fence? I have a Ridgid R4512 and I don't think that fence would fit correctly. But I do know that the rails on my saw can be changed out. Thanks.
Great vid good sir but what would recommend for a table saw for someone who is just getting into wood working please ????
All I know about it is it's called Acoustic Sunrise. It comes as royalty-free music with Apple products.
I just recently found your videos and thanks to you I have done nothing but watch youtube for the last 3 days. You are awesome. Regarding the fence do you get much movement towards the back of the fence. I have a PM 66 saw and my acufence moves up to an 1/8" towards the back of the fence (side to side) and I cant get it to stop. I have tried all the obvious stuff with no luck (tighten rails, tighten adjustments, etc.).
great video....can you tell me what plastic material you added to your fence and can you point me to wherer I can purchase it?
add a chunk of 8020 extrusion to something that rides on the fence bar. pretty simple idea.
i am SOOOOOOOOooooooo jealous of your new workplace Marc... :)
You could have just did the same thing to your old fence with aluminum extrusions
is also for a portable table saw?
should i get pm 63 artisan saw or new delta 36-725t2 ?
I already have this kind of fence but mine only has a single track on the side. Do you think this is a problem?
Sadly I have the "same" Craftsman (1990) saw with the "must adjust both front and back" fence every single time it is moved. I have to measure from the fence to a slot because the distal end kicks to the side when I lock the fence down. I don't know if there are good aftermarket fences for such an old thing.
On the Very Super Cool Tools site he actually has a full set of links to youtube videos and instructions on how to make your own from some raw metal. No welding needed, but some drilling, and he goes into way way more detail than really needed.
I have to tell you, I much more prefer my Incra system that I have for both my tablesaw and router table. When the incra fence system is used with the JESSEM Clear-Cut Precision Stock Guides, you can't go wrong, plus I can use a track system like that on the fence you're currently reviewing.
man that's deep pockets
Not really, it's so worth the money.
Brian Rodriguez I'm an Incra user too and have been for about 7 years now. The cuts are very accurate but I'm not sure it's any more accurate than a Beisemeyer. I've also noticed that over the years there's been some play introduced into the lead screw when locked down and it's not as great as it was brand new. There's a good amount of shimmy when the arm is out a few inches from extreme and I HAVE to lock the fence down to the rail track now to keep it from moving. Beisemeyer fences lock down by default in the same manner I'm having to "double" with the Incra so I'm not completely sure I'd get another one, but it's okay as long as I have it I guess. The micro-adjust sounded super cool but to be honest the only time I've ever used it was when I was calibrating the fence for initial use. The reason I haven't swapped it out is because I've got an on-table routing extension that uses the rails, and also the WonderFence piece keeps me from needing a standalone router table. I actually did have a standalone router table with that system as well but sold it because there was too much space in the shop I wasn't using for that.
The half nut that engages the acme screw used to be much tighter and I never had to do that. It's typical for a half nut to become worn but I didn't expect that in 7 years, especially since it took 30 to wear one out on a screw cutting lathe :-P I can only assume that's because they may have used a substandard softer metal for the half nut and what used to be a rock solid system has become someone flimsy and to recover that I'd have to buy another positioner. I'm not terribly interested in that.
The Wood Whisker is another name for The Splinter. Same with the Wood Whisperer.
+The Wood Whisperer, I see this video is from 2012. Do you still use this fence? And if so or even if not could you please do another video showing where you are currently with you fence issues. Thanks and love your channel the most. i am a very new, self and youtube taught woodworker just getting started.
I haven't seen it in use in recent videos.
He's still using it: th-cam.com/video/fbFQq1pExf4/w-d-xo.html
There are a few components to building a table saw. One plan I found which succeeds in merging these is the Wilfs wood blueprint (check it out on google) without a doubt the best guide that I've seen. Check out all the super info .
Jessem clear cut table saw guids for sheet stock.
Allens a good guy !!
I didn't notice the date for your super cool tool video for the table saw fence. How do you like it now that you've used it for a while? I'm thinking of getting one myself, just hope it will fit my 3 h.p. Steel City table saw.
Love your videos AND your t-shirt!!!
Honestly there isn't much to it. As long as you get the tape in roughly the same position, you can make the fine adjustment where the little plastic window attaches to the fence. Should be a pretty quick job.
Hi, did is ever work with an europe tabelsaw?
If you have, do you not want one?
Mark,
I like this idea a lot but think the prices they are asking are out of touch. $350 for a 48” fence is bordering obscene. I’d think they could do far better in profit on volume if they charged half this much ...or less. There can’t be much more than $60 in parts here. Maybe a pro finish carpenter can rationalize this - I can’t, especially since I already have all the jigs I can use made for my Biesenmier style fence and they work just fine.
biesenmier fence
I believe you could actually stack extrusions to make a taller fence.
In regards to the Biesemeyer fence, do you know if their still made in the US ? I'm going to replace my Delta unisaw with either the Biesemeyer or a Vega fence.
I just bought the Vega after reading the Biesemeyer reviews on Amazon. It sounds like Delta has really screwed it up since buying them. The Vega was easy to install on my old direct drive 12" Craftsman, and so far I am happy with it. I didn't go with the VSCT because I have way too much to try to get done already without also having to make a set of guide rails too.
Was just about to post the same thing
Same fence as the Ridgid cabinet saw.
Except on a bisy design (which is much better).
Will you be keeping the verysupercool fence on your saw?
I have been thinking about adding a plastic fence face on my rip fence, how did you add yours.
80/20 stock. Google it.
Its aircraft aluminum 6061 and they have all kinds of stuff for that system let alone using it as a fence. You can cut it with a none ferious 80tooth sawblade made by deilblo .
I have one on my RAS it almost never comes off.
You can build work benches, cabinets carts. Its an eractor set of parts even gulids I'm going to bet your own home made lathe for wood.
You can buy direct, or buy it from festonal or even off amazon. In 4' pieces.
Direct 10' sticks I think.
Love your videos! Thundercats HO!
Hi, I am currently building a fence for a smaller table saw that I am extending and wondered about the height and width of the main aluminium part of the fence, could you share them please?
That really is an amazing fence just checked out the web site for a price & I don't think so to get one here in Australia it would cost me twice what I paid for my saw very nice but just to expensive
How do you square the fence to the blade
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Gotta love 8020
Hi , I have a dewalt745 table saw and I like to upgrade. I live out of US and is not possible to find inch iron tubing, as VSCT shows in drawings to build own support for the fence. VSCT help me and provide options to build the rail with metric tubing. Other option that I am thinking to buy is incra, at the end the cost will be the same. Any comments about which choose?
How is that aluminum extrusion different than the other already in the market?
Anas Suhaimi probably the price
This fence design looks like a rip off of one I have been using for a few years. Check out the Red Line fence system. It was designed by a guy in Canada. Like this fence, the extruded aluminum grove design is great for making jigs that can attach directly to the fence. I guess the benefit to this fence is that those with an existing Biesemeyer can effortlessly switch over.
Hello, what is the price for this table saw withe the new fence?
that's correct.