i hate kick as much as the next sane person but im happy that someone is making stupid amounts of money off them while damaging twitch at the same time
Rip Twitch & Reddit. So many things are dying in 2023 like: - Rick & Morty - M&M’s - Billy Mitchell - TH-cam CEO - Kwite - PointCrow - FaZe - Bud Light - CJ Dook - Monster Energy - Twitter Verified Badges - Mizzy - Nintendo Direct June 2023
@CritAndDam bc it's funded off shady deals like selling gambling to kids, funded by unsustainable crypto scams, and has very shady rules/regulations of promises that they can't actually uphold if governments actually cracked down on them over copywrite etc.
It really hammers in how badly Twitch messed up in the fact that Kick is basing their whole business strategy around taking advantage of Twitch's mistake.
It makes me curious though. If Twitch made these mistakes as a last-ditch effort to reduce losses, how sustainable/scalable is Kick’s current strategy? Twitch is backed by Amazon, which, I assume, would allow them to store and distribute content at a discounted price via AWS. It’ll be curious seeing whether Kick will eventually become like Twitch if they deem the losses from their pro-consumer policies as too debilitating.
So Kick straight up paid him a ton of money, didn't force him to only stream on their platform, and has a better split on subs? Seems like they're trying to show off how they wanna treat their creators. And if this is how they are then it's a great look for them.
@@UsernameUsername0000 I don't think it's necessarily an issue of profitability, but one of growth. If Twitch is (was?) at the top of the streaming industry, then achieving the annual growth that investors expect is gonna be a near impossible task, which would explain their recent actions a lot. If it were merely down to profitability, I have no doubt that Amazon would keep sinking money into Twitch just as a way of quashing any potential competition. But lack of growth? That's what sends the corporate goblins into absolute panic mode.
@@UsernameUsername0000 It could also be that Twitch is just severly mismanaged and burns money left and right without any returns. We've seen how idiotic Twitch is acting so I wouldn't be surprised. Problem is, when Kick fills the spot, as soon as they secured themselves, they will take scummy actions. The best situation would be for twitch to get its shit together for some healthy competition but that take big internal reorganization.
@@loveableheathen7441 now watch how they're gonna paint themselves as the good guys but a couple years from now they will become the very thing they swore to destroy, that's if they go this far. history repeats itself but ngl it's fun to watch greedy corps get what's coming for them
No the real point is, to slowly bring all the twitch viewers that aren’t coming to kick. So believe it or not it’s more benifical to Kick and that’s the main reason.
Twitch is a prime example of why competitors are so crucial, they are only willing to fold because Kick is on their doorstep. Can you imagine how much worse Twitch would be if Kick never existed?
@@keithnoir Bro's out here defending Twitch, cmon dude. Yeah they're not literally at their doorstep, Twitch is still absolutely massive, but they also just signed their biggest streamer lol. Kick has absolutely become enough of a problem that Twitch feels the need to act on it.
He won’t be streaming on Twitch when it’s finalised. I’ve noticed KICK care a lot more about exclusivity. He may hit live on Twitch to promote KICK streams but I don’t see him streaming on Twitch for the next 2 years. Edit: Yes, they say it’s non-exclusive for the contract, but that’s just a coverup. It actually makes KICK look more attractive to viewers and upcoming streamers if people believe big streamers are streaming there non-exclusively.
twitch recently added an exclusivity clause which prevents anyone from streaming on twitch and other platforms at the same time. He won't be streaming on twitch if this is true.
@@otkrivlenie being a streamer like xqc requires entertaining skills, not everyone has it, also hes been streamig for a lot of years so he didnt get it all by lottery, tho he is lucky. Its 50% luck and 50% hardwork
Kick pays shit load of money to AWS(Amazon product) for hosting their streaming service. Don't think Amazon as a company is worried about this but for twitch only this is bad news.
yeah it really is smart and it'll be interesting to see how twitch handles it if he does what charlie suggested and just do like 30 minute twitch streams and be like ok i'm gunna be on kick if you guys wanna come hang out! I wonder if twitch will allow him to literally sap viewers away using their own platform.
95/5 is not sustainable. at 5% Kick need to make $1.4bn per year in revenue from just xQc's viewers to pay his $70m a year contract. That doesn't include the server costs of outputting to the x amount of viewers per hour.
Ya know honestly, this is a really, really good tactic especially if xQc does what charlie just described. Start a stream on twitch, get a shitload of viewers, then say “hey we’re gonna hang out on kick for the rest of the stream” their strategy is to create a siphon, “get it flowing and it’ll keep itself flowing” type beat. It’s a bold strategy cotton, we’ll see if it pays off
More excessively large companies need more of this: small & medium sized competitors actually challenging their monopoly. The consumers will benefit every time and the sm/med companies get a chance to succeed.
if small and medium sized companies could actually compete with stuff like youtube we would see a lot more of them from what ive heard kick is just going to be a streaming site with a niche for gamblers
This is so good, I’m so unbelievably happy about this. Twitch was too deep in its own head that they had a monopoly on this and they’re finally getting slapped with the cold water!
You’re unbelievably happy about a talentless hack getting paid a salary that most people with lifesaving professions that make genuine contributions to society won’t make in a lifetime?
@@jshowao-rw1dh ?? do you not know how business operate, it will be like this for 10 years for kick then maybe another company will take over, its a business cycle
This is an incredible line, regardless of the story. You have a gift "I came into this world as a little baby kicking, screaming, shitting my diapers, and now I'm kicking, screaming, and shitting my diapers because I can't believe what we're seeing here"
Xqc really has life on easy mode. 100.000.000 dollars for doing almost literally nothing… doing the least amount of work. It’s hard for me to understand how anyone on this earth can make that much money for watching TH-cam, play video games and eating on stream
Entertainment what you expect lol, all those stupids sports you think Lebron or Messi deserves all money for playing with balls? Hell no. While blue collar workers get paid no where close to that. That’s the earth we live in the least important things make the most money while the important stuff just crumble and fall.
It's infuriating when there are people out there giving their lives away to make other lives better with a median salary and a student loan debt with no chance of buying a house through their savings ie doctors, social workers, therapists teachers, etc
It is amazing how many horrible changes major social media companies have pushed through just in this year alone. Twitter's verification policy change in favor of Twitter Blue, Discord scrapping discriminators for forced unique usernames, twitch's policy changes, and finally reddit's api pricing change.
@@colonelpopcorn7702 Discord isn't just getting rid of discriminators; they're forcing people to have completely unique "abc_123" usernames. Now, we'll no longer have 9,999 Mikes, mikes, MiKes, MIKES, and etc. Instead, we only get one mike. Because names are no longer cap sensitive. Special characters are no longer allowed. Other languages are no longer allowed. Emojis are no longer allowed. Already, hundreds of thousands of users have lost their usernames despite having accounts since 2015. You're not just "out of the loop" if you think Discord forcing unique usernames isn't that bad... you're also fucking dense.
Ninja's viewers were all temporary. Everyone knew it, even at that time. Xqc has been the biggest streamer for like 5 years now, and no one gave him recognition, neither twitch or the streamer awards or anyone for that matter. Kick was smart and saw the window to get loyal long time twitch veterans to their platform. They also outclassed the revenue split so people would choose to go there. All smart decisions. I would be very surprised if kick didnt absolutely win this battle.
I feel like we're missing something. Like it's 95/5 until he earns 100 mil from it. There's no way they're just giving him a 100 mil paycheck, that's absurd
@@moonasha No, it's 95/5 for anyone on the platform who streams. Google it. You can start streaming right now on kick and each sub gives you 95% of the revenue from each sub, with kick taking 5%. XQC get's 100 million dollars upfront the day the contract enacts, which is soon. He also get's to keep 100% of the 95/5 split on top of the contract money. Nobody is missing anything here, google is free if you want to look into it.
@@0xmooNinja got caught in the middle of the shift from back in the day when twitch streamers mostly got big from their skill at a game to nowadays where its all about personality
The non exclusive part is why it isn’t going to fail. He can get the fans in the steam on twitch then, finish the stream on Kick telling them to follow if they want to watch. This will bring in more people to kick because of fomo, than a exclusivity deal. They leaned from mixers mistakes. Oh and 95/5
9:20 Charlie just casually releasing his inner demons caught me off guard it scared me but yeah its time for new platforms to rise in the livestream ( i dont watch livestreams since i dont have the patience and time to watch them i prefer the vods/cut down videos)
I just cant imagine why so much value is placed on a streamer in general. I'm not saying they don't have pull or don't provide any potential value to marketers or websites etc. But 100 million dollars worth? Like what? Also why xqc specifically? I guess cause the dude is like a drone. I think the pong game has more going on in their head than this guy.
XQC’s IQ is actually quite higher than what it might seem. He is very smart in terms of base knowledge, but his brain just shuts down when he streams 💀
Aside from the API/3rd party app controversy, what are the signs of Reddit collapsing? It’s more popular than ever. It’s also how a large amount of people search for advice online now. I dislike Reddit as much as the next guy but wut
As someone who was on Mixer and it's far superior set up, easy to understand tutorials and it had HUMAN Moderators that would address issues and not just blindly ban you when trolls start attacking small creators and then when they find out it's trolls they unban you but leave you with a strike on your account (Seriously twitch is garbage and always has been), I miss Mixer so much.
Dude I'm not even trying to nitpick, you saying "ot" instead of "not" made me COMPLETELY misunderstand what this comment was saying for a while 😂 I figured you meant to write "it"
@@japspidey5402 oh okay tha wtf with all the drama. This bro is losing his whole sht to the whale and now he is making a big deal about kick. Mofo is just distracting
Charlie, if you are seeing this, your videos have really helped me with mental health struggles, watching your videos has made my days better even if something very very bad happened that day. I don't think you're going to see this but if you do I just wanted you to know that.
I loved Mixer. I was not happy to learn it was being shut down. If only Microsoft allowed it to be used beyond Xbox users. Imagine how much it could have grown.
Actually take a moment to take this in, imagine trying to explain an 85 year old how a guy can make 100 million dollars for just streaming ?? That’s absolutely WILD
I think them allowing him to stream on twitch was the master plan, its basically to taunt twitch by giving him the ability to do so, and we know he isnt since they treat him like shit so hes probably gonna refuse which gives other twitch streamers the green light to also switch to kick this was well thought out
Seems like, he would start on twitch, so his followers get alerted, hang out a bit, then tell everyone that he's gonna go on kick to bring some viewers over
I don't usually like to give cheers to a company just because it kicks the ass of a company I don't like, but Twitch has had this coming for a while. It's sad it took this long, and I hope it won't be a failure like mixer.
it probably will fail like Mixer. Kick has already fostered a seedy reputation, with incredibly poor moderation, gambling ties, the cocky dudebro PR, and working with people like Ice Poseidon and Adin Ross. it's becoming something of an alt-tech equivalent for those too trashy, edgy, or inflammatory for Twitch.
@@iMoD190 nah, it still very new and has only been going up and has enough money to keep going. It also joined at the right time where twitch has lost all trust and people are starting to look for alternative so they would pick kick as it has good benefits
@@iMoD190 Nope this is for from wrong. I do agree having complete freedom is risky but it’s already more popular and more user friendly than mixer. Mixer put all the cash for Ninja. Kick already has much more bigger audience and twitch new rules and banning people they don’t like and not banning fairly has boosted kick overall. Mixer was at a bad time because Twitch was not in a bad position but rn twitch is on edge because of how bad they been and changing the split is really killing them.
I’m not familiar with Kick, but what I heard about it before this was that it’s a cesspool for streams of SA and streamers harassing people in public or just guys jerking off and adin ross spiraling, idk how true those things are. they may be trending in a different direction with an influx of better streamers so I just hope it doesn’t become the platform for cancerous streams
Before you start thinking he's a crafty operator, consider the fact that xqc took much of this "$100m deal" in kick options, that are in practice worth close to nothing. I think his manager made the deal with the motive of his own publicity. And it worked. But xqc will probably never see most of the $100m in his bank account. The manager himself is known among content creators as a slimy con artist.
idk cuz they probably just gonna keep it alsong as their main business is successing, but they make it so all main gambling things are stake exclusive?
I think Kick has the potential of being the new Twitch. The 95/5 split is already a good enough reason for streamers to stream there instead of Twitch.
their reputation is already seedy as fuck. at this rate they're going to end up being an alt-tech Twitch, like Gab or Parler were to Twitter, for all the edgy banned rejects.
@@johnl5350Kick is owned by Stake, they're meant to be a haven for gambling streamers who were banned from Twitch. I assume that they're able to profit because they have this niche demographic almost entirely. They probably aren't getting most of their profit off of the advertisements; it's probably the viewers of gambling streamers who then think that they can win big, too.
@@ismellmandude6401 this reminds me of the war on drugs, bunch of morals that dont matter to me, just make life a bit more inconvenient if I have a toothache.
crazy how rich he has gotten over last few years, im honestly surprised he has any drive to stream, he can be doing anything, literally anything in life, but no he sits on his crusty pc all day, i respect it
He actually enjoys it which is nice because some people change when the money hits especially big amounts for example Connor McGregor use to have that drive and that beast in him now he’s washed up
@@WeebSlaying'washed up' lmfao. Imagine waking up everyday knowing your job is sitting down and gaming for 6-8 straight hours. You'd probably be pretty miserable unless you take extraordinary care of your mental health.
The whole point of Kick is to have less moderation than other streaming sites, you would be removing one of the bigger pros of kick besides the split revenue.
The Spiffing Brit actually made a whole ramble segment in the stream ‘worlds hardest video game challenge - is actually super easy’ 10 months ago saying that twitch would be dying within 3 years. The timestamp is already marked in the vod
I know bro it was such a wholesome chungus comedy 100 moment I almost came from how hard I was laughing what would’ve made it funnier is if he said xqc morbed all over the place my nuts would’ve been quaking holy pog chungus amongus keanu reeve wholesome fart jesus moment.
I am honestly excited for this, because I am sooooooooo sick of twitch and the way they handle that platform. They need competition and to be put in their place. I hope kick can kick off more, pun intended
@@whotellinghim1870Yes, but this event shows other Streaming Startups that Twitch isn’t invulnerable and the way they’re showing weakness is like blood in the water. There is still demand, neither will die soon JUST yet.
@thatstranger6114 Came into the replies on this comment hoping for this! I remember his video where he discussed why he hadn't revealed his face yet and the issues he had with that. Now look at my boy!! Confidently speaking on camera like a champ!
Good. If they want to try and squeeze as much as they can out of the streamers that keep their platform alive, then its time for another platform to poach their biggest streamers and let Twitch die.
9-figures and non-exclusive contract. xqc has actually struck the greatest deal of eternity, and twitch is just gonna continue to rip itself down like netflix.
This is fantastic. Need kick to poach more streamers. Inflated Billion dollar corporations have really been getting butt blasted by their consumers for capitalising on their monopoly and I am HERE for it.
@@cloudboy08 thats why I hope twitch comes back from its eventual downfall, we need both kick, twitch, and whatever other apps exist so that they all have competitive policies and don't turn into monopolies
twitch is no competition to yt, it is competition for nothing, children dont have $$, eventually streaming will be banned bc it is violating federal law about showing to a audience in mass w/o permission, all it takes is a change to the tos from the game, that is being streamed and theyre federally in hot water for 10 yrs in prision.all it takes is 1 action of enforcement, and they fall like a house of cards, bc it was never a viable business anyways.
@@frankmundo4300 twitch is not really that profitable that's why the cut between streamers and twitch is huge it is only still running cause amazon owned it
The Parallels between Twitch and Blockbuster are astounding. I'm surprised Charlie didn't use that as a comparison; a company that was at the top of it's game making a series of terrible decisions that competitors took advantage of and are now destroying them at their own game.
It's almost as much of an own goal as Yahoo's decision in the early 2000s to NOT buy Google for one billion dollars, or Sears killing off its mail order catalog just one year before Amazon started business.
@@ellievampmtfblockbuster pretty much doesn’t exist anymore at all except for one place that isn’t even connected to the home company unless that also closed down. It was a giant corporation so not really a generic situation.
it's not really the same though: netflix has a completely different model compared to blockbuster, while kick is the same as twitch but they're a bit nicer to their creators
I think if what you watch is on every platform - it's your happy day. We see all three big players kinda enter a state of parity. I'm yet too busy and unsynced to watch streams, so it's not my cup of tea, but very huge news in terms of money moving around.
If Mixer had come around today, I think it would've gotten much more support than it did however many years back. Would probably see many more creators up on it too, even without contracts. I forget why it died so quick though.
Mixer's User Experience was utter garbage. It never stood a chance. Dog water presentation skills and a clear lack of technological finesse. The stickers took up 30% of the chatbox it was insanely terrible.
Kick is Blitzscaling incarnate. What is happening with Twitch will inevitably be repeated in Kick once its venture capital backers demand it actually earn its keep
Exactly. Twitch has problems bringing in good add money, and Kick is much less Add friendly. It isn't milking it's streamers either... this is just your typical venture capital $ bonfire.
@@CantTellYou They'll end up breaking a deal with Azure services if they haven't already based their subsystems on it. I'd be surprised if they were 100% Amazon dependent when taking on said company by the horns.
I think Kicks only issue could be that it will be very expensive to keep this up so if the investors do decide it is costing too much, like microsoft with mixer, they could just shut it off. I think that’s why Twitch are trying to make more money.
Not only that Mixer like Twitch is backed up by big tech unlike Kick, tbh I can't see how Kick will be able to keep up with the infrastructure cost when Amazon who has AWS and Microsoft who has Azure struggled as a streaming platform
Did you even watch the full video? Kick is a Stake company, the same Stake that was banned on Twitch. They're trying to take out the middle-man and owning the full thing. They aren't going to just randomly 'lose investors' and shut it off so long as it's a platform that has gambling streams, XQC had the biggest Stake traffic aside from his gaming, do the math. With how cheap it is to scale up and down your services in AWS / Azure if you traffic dies down, Kick has the right backing and will be around for a while. Whether it becomes a competitor to rival Twitch we will see.
@@7cmhg840doesn’t look like Amazon or Microsoft are doing anything about it Microsoft has other priorities right now anyways that will make them many more billions than these platforms.
They use AWS on the back end for Kick. Microsoft could come in at any point like they did for Parler for "hate speech". These mega corporations in silicone valley are all controlled by a small group of people. Once a threat is identified as an outsider they will be booted. Hopefully they have a plan to recover.
The fact that it's been confirmed 70M with Escalators that go up to 100M for 2 years and it's non-exclusive. That blew my mind. That's damn impressive by Xqc and his team.
The reason Stake doesn't advertise on Kick is exactly as you said, they want to hide their involvement with the site. Thats why KiK was registered under a company registered under another company which is 1/3rd owned by the owner of Stake
Not having him under contract is so genius! Charlie’s right, even with the option I don’t think he’ll stream on twitch. Kick is subtlety putting doubt into xQc and his fans on Twitch as a platform. Idk about y’all but before this I didn’t know Kick was a thing but I do now! Kick has made themselves more money by excluding a contrasting than if they included one.
@@toneysebits8458Creators are nothing without the infrastructure that the platform provided. I'm pretty sure Kick running their infrastructure at a loss. Building a *free* streaming service is super expensive, that's the only reason why we don't have a lot of big players in this space, only the one who has the technical capabilities that can pull this off. TH-cam has Google which owned Google Cloud Platform, and Twitch has Amazon which owned AWS. Mixer technically should still survive if they do it right, since it was owned by Microsoft which also owned Azure (Microsoft's cloud business.) I'm not sure who's behind Kick's infrastructure. But I'm sure if they use 3rd party cloud solution, it's gonna be super expensive for them to maintain.
I’m gonna be honest, everytime I think twitch is dead, it feels like it never matters people are so dedicated to twitch for some reason it’s crazy lol even the streamers stay for some reason
dedicated? no,twitch just like reddit is a "circle" that enjoy their whatever bullshit stupid culture etc,its where basement dweller spam thousand of chat,emote,copypasta etc,so if they want to gather twitch dweller,they basically need to create the second twitch,thats why youtube stop(for now) to beat twitch,because they think its not really that worth it to put all the effort which is ttrue for youtube,but kick are different,and with twitch keep killing itself and kick being smart,they can get the twitch streamer create a new one.
Almost like Nintendo in a way… they already have it, and there are a few exclusives, so why change? When obviously the answer is that the company is terrible and impossible to find much reason in.
This has got to be one of the most unexpected things I've ever experienced, I never though XQC would do this because he has one of the earliest contracts with Twitch which obviously was better than the later ones but at these numbers I can't blame him in the slightest. Twitch is simply moving in the wrong direction. & kick is moving in a better direction at least for streamers and their own well being.
It's easy to move in the right direction if all you do is burn venture capital. Kick isn't even trying to make money, and we all know their end goal is very much to make money.
"XQC gets to have his cake, eat it too, and fuck the baker" is one of my new favorite Charlie quotes.
Real, had a good laugh 😂
Gonna go back in time and make that my senior quote
😂
AAAHHH EKKUSUKYUUSHII SAMA YAMETE KUDASAI!!!!
Comedy gold
I think Twitch really needed this to happen to be humbled. They are severely overvaluing themselves in their business model.
i hate kick as much as the next sane person but im happy that someone is making stupid amounts of money off them while damaging twitch at the same time
Rip Twitch & Reddit.
So many things are dying in 2023 like:
- Rick & Morty
- M&M’s
- Billy Mitchell
- TH-cam CEO
- Kwite
- PointCrow
- FaZe
- Bud Light
- CJ Dook
- Monster Energy
- Twitter Verified Badges
- Mizzy
- Nintendo Direct June 2023
@@ebenezer-scroogewhy do u even hate kick
@CritAndDam bc it's funded off shady deals like selling gambling to kids, funded by unsustainable crypto scams, and has very shady rules/regulations of promises that they can't actually uphold if governments actually cracked down on them over copywrite etc.
@@MrSmexy702 still better than twitch idc
The fact that XQC is being paid to stream on kick and will be earning more than Lebron does playing basketball for 2 years is absolutely insane to me
Real
i better not catch you in the streets with them cheeks open or its gonna get wicked
@@МҎ3I hope you do
but how will this affect the socioeconomic status of the fortnite island
Quebec boy is now a Super Star let's go !!!
"xQc gets to have his cake, eat it too, and f*ck the baker" is an absolutely legendary line
yeah that was amazing
and that's not the best way it could have been said, that made it too much of an understatement
and probably bought the bakery too
then became the CEO of the baking industry
I burst out audibly laughing @ the baker part HDKSHSSKJS
$100,000,000 for a guy who "reacts" by leaving the room, coming back with fast food, and then eating throughout the rest of the "reaction".
'what a time to be alive'
I'm watching his first stream on kick and he literally just did exactly what you said🤣
Just checked his stream right now and he's eating LMAO
But if it’s so easy then do it. What’s stopping you?
Yet he's the most popular streamer on the planet.
"He can have his cake, eat it to, and fuck the baker" truly a quote for the books
lmao
One of the quotes ever
Definitely one I'm gonna be adding to my lexicon
@@nomoretwitterhandles lexicon, now thats a word to add to my lexicon
One of the greatest things hes ever said
It really hammers in how badly Twitch messed up in the fact that Kick is basing their whole business strategy around taking advantage of Twitch's mistake.
It makes me curious though. If Twitch made these mistakes as a last-ditch effort to reduce losses, how sustainable/scalable is Kick’s current strategy? Twitch is backed by Amazon, which, I assume, would allow them to store and distribute content at a discounted price via AWS. It’ll be curious seeing whether Kick will eventually become like Twitch if they deem the losses from their pro-consumer policies as too debilitating.
So Kick straight up paid him a ton of money, didn't force him to only stream on their platform, and has a better split on subs? Seems like they're trying to show off how they wanna treat their creators. And if this is how they are then it's a great look for them.
@@UsernameUsername0000 💯
@@UsernameUsername0000 I don't think it's necessarily an issue of profitability, but one of growth. If Twitch is (was?) at the top of the streaming industry, then achieving the annual growth that investors expect is gonna be a near impossible task, which would explain their recent actions a lot. If it were merely down to profitability, I have no doubt that Amazon would keep sinking money into Twitch just as a way of quashing any potential competition. But lack of growth? That's what sends the corporate goblins into absolute panic mode.
@@UsernameUsername0000 It could also be that Twitch is just severly mismanaged and burns money left and right without any returns. We've seen how idiotic Twitch is acting so I wouldn't be surprised. Problem is, when Kick fills the spot, as soon as they secured themselves, they will take scummy actions. The best situation would be for twitch to get its shit together for some healthy competition but that take big internal reorganization.
I love how Charlie lets out the largest burp, says "yucky" and just continues as if nothing happened.
making a non exclusive contract is genius, it makes you seem a lot less aggressive and look a lot better, while still achieving about the same goal.
Ikr? I thought it was stupid at first but after realizing how different the split they give streamers between Twitch and Kick it's really smart idea
They are making twitch look greedy
@@loveableheathen7441 now watch how they're gonna paint themselves as the good guys but a couple years from now they will become the very thing they swore to destroy, that's if they go this far. history repeats itself but ngl it's fun to watch greedy corps get what's coming for them
No the real point is, to slowly bring all the twitch viewers that aren’t coming to kick. So believe it or not it’s more benifical to Kick and that’s the main reason.
@@sergiyz3785 Both things can be the reasons...
Twitch is a prime example of why competitors are so crucial, they are only willing to fold because Kick is on their doorstep. Can you imagine how much worse Twitch would be if Kick never existed?
Only fans and it's online culture is like a diet version of what could've happened to twitch except the creators don't get money.
Wait kick is at twitchs doorstep? Checks site numbers and users, where?
@@keithnoiryeah but kick has been around for like a year and twitch has been around for like 10
@@Fawnnnnnn doorstep doesn't mean years behind it means right behind them.
@@keithnoir Bro's out here defending Twitch, cmon dude. Yeah they're not literally at their doorstep, Twitch is still absolutely massive, but they also just signed their biggest streamer lol. Kick has absolutely become enough of a problem that Twitch feels the need to act on it.
Giving XQC 100 million just to hit the "live" button on Kick while he's still streaming on Twitch is truly the art of the deal
Can't wait to see him gamble it all and get 1 billion or go bankrupt 😂😂
Lmao. Theoretically speaking, he got paid 100million to “live”.
He won’t be streaming on Twitch when it’s finalised. I’ve noticed KICK care a lot more about exclusivity. He may hit live on Twitch to promote KICK streams but I don’t see him streaming on Twitch for the next 2 years.
Edit: Yes, they say it’s non-exclusive for the contract, but that’s just a coverup. It actually makes KICK look more attractive to viewers and upcoming streamers if people believe big streamers are streaming there non-exclusively.
twitch recently added an exclusivity clause which prevents anyone from streaming on twitch and other platforms at the same time. He won't be streaming on twitch if this is true.
im gonna be surprised if they actually get their worth out of this. not being exclusive is insane
$100 Million for a guy who reacts to videos, eats fast food and occasionally speaks complete gibberish. Good for him man
u do it and get 100mil then
@@sanjivinsmoke6913He can’t he’s a mute. Poor dude, would’ve been easy money.
@@sanjivinsmoke6913A man wins the lottery just by scratching a paper with penny and looking dead. - YoU wIn tHe loTtErY tHeN.
@@otkrivlenie being a streamer like xqc requires entertaining skills, not everyone has it, also hes been streamig for a lot of years so he didnt get it all by lottery, tho he is lucky. Its 50% luck and 50% hardwork
I don't see why you cant do the same. Do it now
Bad things happening to big, greedy companies makes me unreasonably happy
Your happiness is reasonable.
Kick pays shit load of money to AWS(Amazon product) for hosting their streaming service. Don't think Amazon as a company is worried about this but for twitch only this is bad news.
I thought you were saying big greedy adapter
@@zerog4879 Ok?
@@Weeee-ph4gs Twitch is literally owned by Amazon...
9:18 the moment Charlie's true angelic form is almost unleashed, in which he promptly holds back the creature within. Absolutely remarkable
“Yucky”
😂😂😂
Do not be afraid.
LMAOOOOO
rare
It's actually really smart for them to make it non exclusive it allows him to pull more viewers overtime rather than making it a jarring switch.
yeah it really is smart and it'll be interesting to see how twitch handles it if he does what charlie suggested and just do like 30 minute twitch streams and be like ok i'm gunna be on kick if you guys wanna come hang out! I wonder if twitch will allow him to literally sap viewers away using their own platform.
can you seek or rewind live streams? Does it save vods for more than 2 months? If not, into the trash it goes
@@youtubeenjoyer1743 youre sounding like a dweeb :/
He probably wouldn't have signed otherwise
@@loscillanigga he definitely wouldve signed 100m is way more than he wouldve ever made on twitch
95-5 split is WILD. That’s less than sales tax…
negotiating a 12th biggest, 100,000,000 contract with a 3rd grade reading level is truly the art of the deal
Jesters were the 5th most paid courtier in medieval Europe.
@@Lemosa3414 jesters had a skill though xqc just kinda… exists
@@Lemosa3414 really? that's awesome. learned something new.
@@Lemosa3414 jesters are funny...
What is your reading level in French?
It's only a matter of time before one of these companies pays a creator or streamer 1 billion
INCOMING INTERNET WANNABE FUNNYMEN
At this rate it will soon be a reality.
aint you nathaniel B?
@@SocknessMonster what?
I love your content bandy!
"Have his cake, eat it too AND fuck the baker" is one of my favourite analogies ever
i better not catch you in the streets with them cheeks open or its gonna get wicked
@@МҎ3you can catch me in the streets, i won’t complain
Stand up level joke writing
I am sorry i accidentally just basically stole your comment word for word, great minds think alike though lmao
@@jacotacomorocco That's prlly written tbh
9:16 bro just releases the souls of 50,000 cursed demons in one second and says 'yucky'
95/5 split is insane and i'm sure if this continues twitch will be shaking in their boots
i better not catch you in the streets with them cheeks open or its gonna get wicked
Real
I really hope they do 😂
Kick is twitch's biggest opp. On Twitter, Kick prays on Twitches down fall, literally celebrating every bad decision it makes and it's so funny to me.
95/5 is not sustainable.
at 5% Kick need to make $1.4bn per year in revenue from just xQc's viewers to pay his $70m a year contract.
That doesn't include the server costs of outputting to the x amount of viewers per hour.
9:19 Was using background play while playing with my dogs and that genuinely scared the shit out of both my dogs and I. Thank you Charlie.
fucking hilarious burp
Yucky
LMFAO
Sounds like a demon came out and wanted to play with your dogs too. Not even demons can resist those ears and tail
LMAO it really was a gargantuan burp. Definitely deserved that yucky that charlie added
Charlie: Burps his entire gastrointestinal canal out
Also Charlie: YUCKY
Was listening to the video in the background, that literally gave me a jump scare.
@@jkh378 me too, i had to rewind and rewatch for be sure XD
9:19 for those who didnt see the video
@@hiroIim thanks my friend
That was gross
The open streaming clause is brilliant. Him starting his streams on twitch then ending to move to Kick is such great move.
9:20 So brave of Charlie to continue the video like nothing happened after Genie Maker tried to steal his soul like that...😢
Caught me off guard
sounded like a fuckin minecraft pigman
Bro spoke underdark for a second and brushed it off
@@wh7988 fr 😭 it was like a jumpscare
Ya know honestly, this is a really, really good tactic especially if xQc does what charlie just described. Start a stream on twitch, get a shitload of viewers, then say “hey we’re gonna hang out on kick for the rest of the stream” their strategy is to create a siphon, “get it flowing and it’ll keep itself flowing” type beat. It’s a bold strategy cotton, we’ll see if it pays off
i like the way u talk lol
Of course people will follow him, he had no reason to be loyal to twitch. What have they done for him, he can do whatever he wants.
That's if twitch doesn't throw the hammer on Jim for switching like ludwig
if the stake money ever runs dry then kick is doomed, they are losing TONS of money
There's several streamers who do that. They'll do half the stream on Twitch then tell everyone they're going to kick and stream over there.
Bro, we gonna skip over 9:17? He just glossed over it and I started LAUGHING so hard😂 I love this guy
Lol yeah burping is fucking hilarious! couldnt stop laughing hahahahahahhahahahaha🤣🤣
Why did it sounds like a pig squeel
YUCKY
hes just trying to keep the other charlies he absorbed in his body
it happens pretty frequently i got used to it lol
"Now, I do wanna- BUUUEHEHEEHHHUCK" 🤣9:18
More excessively large companies need more of this: small & medium sized competitors actually challenging their monopoly. The consumers will benefit every time and the sm/med companies get a chance to succeed.
if small and medium sized companies could actually compete with stuff like youtube we would see a lot more of them from what ive heard kick is just going to be a streaming site with a niche for gamblers
@@MrHell0 in a captilist society the only way the non elite win is by ending monopoly. I want a reddit and TH-cam alternative now.
Agree, but no small our medium sized competitor can just dump 100mil like that
@@Rahul_Sastry TH-cam has competitors already, but no one can decide on which one they want to congregate on.
bro said small/medium sized competitors when kick just dropped 100mill for a contract LOL
This is so good, I’m so unbelievably happy about this. Twitch was too deep in its own head that they had a monopoly on this and they’re finally getting slapped with the cold water!
You’re unbelievably happy about a talentless hack getting paid a salary that most people with lifesaving professions that make genuine contributions to society won’t make in a lifetime?
its actually 5 head moves by twitch, burning Kick's Money for nothing.
The tthing is we as a normal shouldnt care about this we are not streamers
Xqc won't have even 1 percent of his average viwership. You zoomers don't even know wtf happened with mixer and shroud and Ninja. Actual regards.
@@jshowao-rw1dh ?? do you not know how business operate, it will be like this for 10 years for kick then maybe another company will take over, its a business cycle
This is an incredible line, regardless of the story. You have a gift
"I came into this world as a little baby kicking, screaming, shitting my diapers, and now I'm kicking, screaming, and shitting my diapers because I can't believe what we're seeing here"
My favoritele will forever be " So call me your toilet, because I saw that shit coming".
Masterpiece.
If you think that’s storytelling, you need to read books bud
@@RaptorReplays bro come on
@@StefanCreateson what?
nah i never heard He gets to have his cake eat it too AND fuck the baker 😂🤣😂
Xqc really has life on easy mode. 100.000.000 dollars for doing almost literally nothing… doing the least amount of work. It’s hard for me to understand how anyone on this earth can make that much money for watching TH-cam, play video games and eating on stream
Entertainment what you expect lol, all those stupids sports you think Lebron or Messi deserves all money for playing with balls? Hell no. While blue collar workers get paid no where close to that. That’s the earth we live in the least important things make the most money while the important stuff just crumble and fall.
Because there is for some reason a audience for it
He got a good spawn
It's infuriating when there are people out there giving their lives away to make other lives better with a median salary and a student loan debt with no chance of buying a house through their savings ie doctors, social workers, therapists teachers, etc
I dont think streaming every single day(literally every day, 16hours a day) is common for streamers. He earned it.
Not only does this man never go outside but hes now getting paid 100 million dollars for doing it.
Ong wtf is this generation
I mean does it matter? He was already a millionaire by doing this the whole time. Now he's just gonna get some extra cash.
@@akihui3846 never said it mattered, simply pointing out what we all wish we could do.
Can't think of any reason to go outside these days.
@@akihui3846 Nah, now he's gonna have even more money for Adept to take 50% of in the divorce.
It is amazing how many horrible changes major social media companies have pushed through just in this year alone. Twitter's verification policy change in favor of Twitter Blue, Discord scrapping discriminators for forced unique usernames, twitch's policy changes, and finally reddit's api pricing change.
Instagram banning users who use their algorithm and blow up....
Maybe I'm out of the loop, but discord getting rid of discriminators doesn't seem like it's anywhere near the same league as the rest of those
@@colonelpopcorn7702 its one of the main reasons why discord was good lmao
@@easthastings1346 Because of a string of numbers? I still don't get it
@@colonelpopcorn7702 Discord isn't just getting rid of discriminators; they're forcing people to have completely unique "abc_123" usernames. Now, we'll no longer have 9,999 Mikes, mikes, MiKes, MIKES, and etc. Instead, we only get one mike. Because names are no longer cap sensitive. Special characters are no longer allowed. Other languages are no longer allowed. Emojis are no longer allowed. Already, hundreds of thousands of users have lost their usernames despite having accounts since 2015.
You're not just "out of the loop" if you think Discord forcing unique usernames isn't that bad... you're also fucking dense.
The fact that this was 70 million more than what mixer signed with ninja with the contract being nicer is actually insane
Nuts when comparing ninjas peak vs xqc
Ninja's viewers were all temporary. Everyone knew it, even at that time. Xqc has been the biggest streamer for like 5 years now, and no one gave him recognition, neither twitch or the streamer awards or anyone for that matter. Kick was smart and saw the window to get loyal long time twitch veterans to their platform. They also outclassed the revenue split so people would choose to go there. All smart decisions. I would be very surprised if kick didnt absolutely win this battle.
I feel like we're missing something. Like it's 95/5 until he earns 100 mil from it. There's no way they're just giving him a 100 mil paycheck, that's absurd
@@moonasha No, it's 95/5 for anyone on the platform who streams. Google it. You can start streaming right now on kick and each sub gives you 95% of the revenue from each sub, with kick taking 5%. XQC get's 100 million dollars upfront the day the contract enacts, which is soon. He also get's to keep 100% of the 95/5 split on top of the contract money. Nobody is missing anything here, google is free if you want to look into it.
@@0xmooNinja got caught in the middle of the shift from back in the day when twitch streamers mostly got big from their skill at a game to nowadays where its all about personality
The non exclusive part is why it isn’t going to fail. He can get the fans in the steam on twitch then, finish the stream on Kick telling them to follow if they want to watch. This will bring in more people to kick because of fomo, than a exclusivity deal. They leaned from mixers mistakes. Oh and 95/5
the "non exclusive" part is the reason my father left me in my incubis
@@infest1ngI can be ur daddy 👽
@@infest1ngf
That is what was said in the video
9:20 Charlie just casually releasing his inner demons caught me off guard it scared me
but yeah its time for new platforms to rise in the livestream ( i dont watch livestreams since i dont have the patience and time to watch them i prefer the vods/cut down videos)
Yucky
That eructation was FEROCIOUS. Excellent. 👍🏾👍🏾
Came here to check if I wasn't the only one that nearly spat out their food.
That one was deep.
@@insoporous9978 I inhaled my soda and it came out my nose.
It puts a smile on my face to see these greedy corporations come crashing and burning.
As always
Remember that not everything is forever
Not like Kick is any less greedy
@@shearman360 everyone’s gotta make their money however kick is a better platform compensation wise for streamers making them at least less greedy
Kick is backed by a gambling business, go figure.
I cannot cope with the fact that someone with the IQ of xqc is now in possession of this amount of money
I mean, are you dumb if you end up in the position he's in now? He must have made a few smart decisions along the way.
@@spacedaniel492 not even. All luck guy
@@spacedaniel492the only smart decision he’s ever made was not going to anger management.
I just cant imagine why so much value is placed on a streamer in general. I'm not saying they don't have pull or don't provide any potential value to marketers or websites etc. But 100 million dollars worth? Like what? Also why xqc specifically? I guess cause the dude is like a drone. I think the pong game has more going on in their head than this guy.
XQC’s IQ is actually quite higher than what it might seem. He is very smart in terms of base knowledge, but his brain just shuts down when he streams 💀
i’m loving this arc, reddit and twitch both collapsing from their incompetence
And Twitter now too! Three of the most toxic platforms ever are being taken down in the span of like 3 months
Aside from the API/3rd party app controversy, what are the signs of Reddit collapsing?
It’s more popular than ever. It’s also how a large amount of people search for advice online now.
I dislike Reddit as much as the next guy but wut
That burp scared my cat so bad that she clawed her way to the void of my closet.
The blood and claw marks on my legs thank you.
That cat deserves to be put down
only a cat can hurt its owner out of nowhere like that despite probably being taken care of perfectly
@@kexe2297 cats ☕️
I'm absolutely dying 😂😂😂😂
I'm getting orange cat energy. Is it the same cat as in your pp?
Looks very similar to mine, and he's an absolutely menace.
I think it was a really smart choice by Charlie to let the demon out like that 9:18
agreed
Yucky
“Yucky” -Jesus
@@UNO279amen
As someone who was on Mixer and it's far superior set up, easy to understand tutorials and it had HUMAN Moderators that would address issues and not just blindly ban you when trolls start attacking small creators and then when they find out it's trolls they unban you but leave you with a strike on your account (Seriously twitch is garbage and always has been), I miss Mixer so much.
Dude I'm not even trying to nitpick, you saying "ot" instead of "not" made me COMPLETELY misunderstand what this comment was saying for a while 😂 I figured you meant to write "it"
Bro xqc will be back in less than 6 months. Mixer for Ninja from twitch was horrible viewership.
@@steverogers6572 xqc doesn't have to be "back" he can still stream on twitch, he has a non-exclusive contract with Kick.
At least mixer let me stream to my friends on Xbox 😭
@@japspidey5402 oh okay tha wtf with all the drama. This bro is losing his whole sht to the whale and now he is making a big deal about kick. Mofo is just distracting
Charlie, if you are seeing this, your videos have really helped me with mental health struggles, watching your videos has made my days better even if something very very bad happened that day. I don't think you're going to see this but if you do I just wanted you to know that.
Hope things get better for you bro
If he really saw this he would be like “Nice”
9:19 Had to replay that part a few times just to make sure I actually experienced Charlie ripping an atomic burp
yucky indeed
The way he says yucky and then carries on with what he was talking about lol
"Charlie" cringe
omfg
@@toshiro-kano Isn't that his name?
I will never forget mixer. It had the most user friendly UI I’ve ever experienced.
real.
mixer walked so kick could run
damn wish i could have experienced it.
@@bigboipeepee I’d rather kick it in the balls.
I loved Mixer. I was not happy to learn it was being shut down.
If only Microsoft allowed it to be used beyond Xbox users. Imagine how much it could have grown.
Actually take a moment to take this in, imagine trying to explain an 85 year old how a guy can make 100 million dollars for just streaming ?? That’s absolutely WILD
i better not catch you in the streets with them cheeks open or its gonna get wicked
@@МҎ3 dude what the fuck
Tell him that is gambling with kids involved and it is not that hard to comprehend.
Well, you have to explain to that 85 years old what streaming is first 😂
I mean why would tv make money in the first place?
9:18 even the cat woke up in the right bottom after that lmaooo
I think them allowing him to stream on twitch was the master plan, its basically to taunt twitch by giving him the ability to do so, and we know he isnt since they treat him like shit so hes probably gonna refuse which gives other twitch streamers the green light to also switch to kick this was well thought out
Seems like, he would start on twitch, so his followers get alerted, hang out a bit, then tell everyone that he's gonna go on kick to bring some viewers over
I mean he probably is required to stream on kick a certain amount of time a month, and considering the money, probably a lot
@@dromarz5318this exactly.
I don't usually like to give cheers to a company just because it kicks the ass of a company I don't like, but Twitch has had this coming for a while. It's sad it took this long, and I hope it won't be a failure like mixer.
it probably will fail like Mixer. Kick has already fostered a seedy reputation, with incredibly poor moderation, gambling ties, the cocky dudebro PR, and working with people like Ice Poseidon and Adin Ross. it's becoming something of an alt-tech equivalent for those too trashy, edgy, or inflammatory for Twitch.
Disgusting genshin pfp
@@iMoD190 nah, it still very new and has only been going up and has enough money to keep going. It also joined at the right time where twitch has lost all trust and people are starting to look for alternative so they would pick kick as it has good benefits
@@iMoD190 Nope this is for from wrong. I do agree having complete freedom is risky but it’s already more popular and more user friendly than mixer. Mixer put all the cash for Ninja. Kick already has much more bigger audience and twitch new rules and banning people they don’t like and not banning fairly has boosted kick overall. Mixer was at a bad time because Twitch was not in a bad position but rn twitch is on edge because of how bad they been and changing the split is really killing them.
I’m not familiar with Kick, but what I heard about it before this was that it’s a cesspool for streams of SA and streamers harassing people in public or just guys jerking off and adin ross spiraling, idk how true those things are. they may be trending in a different direction with an influx of better streamers so I just hope it doesn’t become the platform for cancerous streams
Its actually a good idea for an open contract. This way xqc can easily share kick with his twitch viewers
Oooh I see, that IS pretty smart
It's the smartest thing to do and you don't choke out his audience. I won't stream on twitch. So I might start on kick
@@TitanfallTeachings absolutely
@@TitanfallTeachingssad 🤡
Before you start thinking he's a crafty operator, consider the fact that xqc took much of this "$100m deal" in kick options, that are in practice worth close to nothing.
I think his manager made the deal with the motive of his own publicity. And it worked. But xqc will probably never see most of the $100m in his bank account.
The manager himself is known among content creators as a slimy con artist.
9:19 that burp is demonic
I think the 95/5 split is just to attract a lot of people and when they get big enough they will change it to 80/20 or 70/30 which is not that bad.
Yeahh you would assume so, unless it ends up being the gambling promotion that makes them most of their money
As long as Stake is running they can keep those splits on Kick. Stake’s profit margins are insane since they’re the biggest online crypto casino.
nope eddie and trainwerk have said the 95/5 will never change
idk cuz they probably just gonna keep it alsong as their main business is successing, but they make it so all main gambling things are stake exclusive?
@@buckinham420 and nintendo said they would never charge for online service, yet here we are.
I think Kick has the potential of being the new Twitch. The 95/5 split is already a good enough reason for streamers to stream there instead of Twitch.
their reputation is already seedy as fuck. at this rate they're going to end up being an alt-tech Twitch, like Gab or Parler were to Twitter, for all the edgy banned rejects.
Kick is a platform for advertising stake, thats is. Everything it will do, anyone they poach, will be interacting and promoting stake in some way.
@@johnl5350Kick is owned by Stake, they're meant to be a haven for gambling streamers who were banned from Twitch.
I assume that they're able to profit because they have this niche demographic almost entirely. They probably aren't getting most of their profit off of the advertisements; it's probably the viewers of gambling streamers who then think that they can win big, too.
@@ismellmandude6401 this reminds me of the war on drugs, bunch of morals that dont matter to me, just make life a bit more inconvenient if I have a toothache.
@@ragegage1221 the morals of marketing crypto-currency gambling to audiences of children should probably be at least a bit concerning to you.
we not gonna mention him casually unleashing a vile, ancient demonic force from within at 9:20?
9:22 is so glossed over with just a simple "Yucky."
9:17 Mixer's entire existence summed up in a moment that lasted longer than the service
1:34 is one of my favorite charlie quotes
crazy how rich he has gotten over last few years, im honestly surprised he has any drive to stream, he can be doing anything, literally anything in life, but no he sits on his crusty pc all day, i respect it
The guy's trying to make history by being the first streamer to become a billionnaire. 😎
Bro just enjoys it
He actually enjoys it which is nice because some people change when the money hits especially big amounts for example Connor McGregor use to have that drive and that beast in him now he’s washed up
@@WeebSlaying'washed up' lmfao. Imagine waking up everyday knowing your job is sitting down and gaming for 6-8 straight hours. You'd probably be pretty miserable unless you take extraordinary care of your mental health.
@@juicetang5079 plenty of people do that everyday without getting paid millions.
"Have his cake, eat it too, and fuck the baker" had me fucking dying laughing
Truly one of the deals of all time
I can agree that it is the one of the deals of all time
Real
*"Let’s make a deal to make a deal"*
Most original Penguinz0 commentator
very agreed
When Charlie is shocked you know things are going to be wild
Real
@@p-__what the…
Wow. Zoinks. Goodness gracious. Jinkies.
Imo only xQc benefit from this. He won’t make 100million for Kick…
i better not catch you in the streets with them cheeks open or its gonna get wicked.
If Kick decides to reinforce chat and content moderation in a clear an unbiased manner, it's over for Twitch.
Ur saying no to freedom of speech? 🤡
The whole point of Kick is to have less moderation than other streaming sites, you would be removing one of the bigger pros of kick besides the split revenue.
So you want more censorship?
@@BlackVoidGangi think he's talking about all those kids being racist and sexist
@@anaalina5964yeah, more like like. basic moderation.
Not allowing racial slurs and that sort of thing. Not anything crazy strict.
Twitch is like that one mom treats their kid like shit and then feels immediate regret when their kid leaves finally.
thats actually a great comparison wow
The Spiffing Brit actually made a whole ramble segment in the stream ‘worlds hardest video game challenge - is actually super easy’ 10 months ago saying that twitch would be dying within 3 years.
The timestamp is already marked in the vod
Charlie calling a 100 million dollar deal wackie is the funniest shit I could've heard
There is a video of xqc getting arrested on my channel!! 😮
For a non-exclusive deal? That's whacky.
@@p-__ My smoking habits and addiction is better than Charlie's
I know bro it was such a wholesome chungus comedy 100 moment I almost came from how hard I was laughing what would’ve made it funnier is if he said xqc morbed all over the place my nuts would’ve been quaking holy pog chungus amongus keanu reeve wholesome fart jesus moment.
wtf kinda deals are you getting?
I am honestly excited for this, because I am sooooooooo sick of twitch and the way they handle that platform. They need competition and to be put in their place. I hope kick can kick off more, pun intended
I think both are gonna die, Kick especially since they don’t support smaller creators and their policies are horrible
@@whotellinghim1870 Yeah, kick's gonna learn the hard way why so many streaming sites get so lock and key over time in the first place
The relief is real! All topped off with a fun pun 🥲
@@whotellinghim1870Yes, but this event shows other Streaming Startups that Twitch isn’t invulnerable and the way they’re showing weakness is like blood in the water.
There is still demand, neither will die soon JUST yet.
good for you! be excited to watch with a bunch of nazi degens alongside you, on an app that barely works and uses viewbots, surely you'll have fun
“Now I do wanna… 9:18 Yucky.” 😂😂😂
If you told me 4 years ago that Charlie would be sat here in a black shirt and letting his cat playground share half the frame, I’d call you crazy.
If only his cat would hang out there his viewership would double = 3 meow meow
Shut up
Io is actually sleeping in there, you can see her head pop out at 11:55.
If you had told me 10 years ago this guy would reveal his face and become a top ranked channel...
@thatstranger6114 Came into the replies on this comment hoping for this! I remember his video where he discussed why he hadn't revealed his face yet and the issues he had with that. Now look at my boy!! Confidently speaking on camera like a champ!
Charlie wears a black shirt is such a terrifying thing.
@@p-__ what?
Real
It doesn't bother me all that much.
Fax
@@p-__ Gonna need a sample.
...for scientific purposes.
Damn, Kick really took a spear and went for Twitchs heart
timing is impeccable
Good. If they want to try and squeeze as much as they can out of the streamers that keep their platform alive, then its time for another platform to poach their biggest streamers and let Twitch die.
Isnt kick know for hosting nazis and racists cus noone else will?
I guess they took a stake to twitch’s heart
*"Have his cake, eat it too, and fu*k the baker"* Im dead 💀
9-figures and non-exclusive contract. xqc has actually struck the greatest deal of eternity, and twitch is just gonna continue to rip itself down like netflix.
i better not catch you in the streets with them cheeks open or its gonna get wicked.
@@МҎ3 No one cares
Netflix actually has started getting more subscribers since it got back on its bullshit lol
@@Unfortunately_Mickey true, but its nowhere near where it was a few years ago. same thing might happen to twitch
netflix is on a high rise now sooo about that...
9:19 was a truly heartbraking breathtaking emotional suprising insane sadly inspiring moment
This is fantastic. Need kick to poach more streamers. Inflated Billion dollar corporations have really been getting butt blasted by their consumers for capitalising on their monopoly and I am HERE for it.
I mean kick is ownef by another billion dollar corp but atleast its fairer to streamers
And the monopolization is not gonna get better its just gonna get worse and worse and the internet is gonna go downhill
@@cloudboy08 thats why I hope twitch comes back from its eventual downfall, we need both kick, twitch, and whatever other apps exist so that they all have competitive policies and don't turn into monopolies
What other examples are there? Reddit is killing 3rd party apps and the protests are doing nothing
You have no idea what a monopoly is
TH-cam could have killed Twitch years ago if it was smart about designing their streaming service.
twitch is no competition to yt, it is competition for nothing, children dont have $$, eventually streaming will be banned bc it is violating federal law about showing to a audience in mass w/o permission, all it takes is a change to the tos from the game, that is being streamed and theyre federally in hot water for 10 yrs in prision.all it takes is 1 action of enforcement, and they fall like a house of cards, bc it was never a viable business anyways.
and I bet there is a big reason behind why they dont focus on streaming.. because my guess is its not profitable compared to videos.
@@likemysnopp youre right, twitch costs more to run than it earns in revenue
@@DevinGibbs-cg7ybthats weird
@@frankmundo4300 twitch is not really that profitable that's why the cut between streamers and twitch is huge it is only still running cause amazon owned it
The Parallels between Twitch and Blockbuster are astounding. I'm surprised Charlie didn't use that as a comparison; a company that was at the top of it's game making a series of terrible decisions that competitors took advantage of and are now destroying them at their own game.
Yeah, but Twitch never had a chance to buy Kick, so it's not quite the same.
I feel like you just described a very generic situation? Company doing well makes bad decisions now is doing less well
It's almost as much of an own goal as Yahoo's decision in the early 2000s to NOT buy Google for one billion dollars, or Sears killing off its mail order catalog just one year before Amazon started business.
@@ellievampmtfblockbuster pretty much doesn’t exist anymore at all except for one place that isn’t even connected to the home company unless that also closed down.
It was a giant corporation so not really a generic situation.
it's not really the same though: netflix has a completely different model compared to blockbuster, while kick is the same as twitch but they're a bit nicer to their creators
I can’t even understand anything xqc says and he’s going to make more than my whole family combined. Good for him.
more like 10 families combined
@@lexck More like an entire city of families combined
His great grand children will look back on his streaming days like 'wait what thats how he made it?'
More than my entire bloodline x1000
Your whole family?????? YOUR ENTIRE BLOODLINE X100 😂
I think if what you watch is on every platform - it's your happy day. We see all three big players kinda enter a state of parity. I'm yet too busy and unsynced to watch streams, so it's not my cup of tea, but very huge news in terms of money moving around.
yes, also twitch modration and new rules ect have been just missing straight up. Hopefully this is a final wake up call for twitch.
$100M to sit in his room and stream. Damn that says a lot about the world we live in today
100M €+ for football players ain't better
@@wrrrwrrr872 they at least train hard for there spot. Xqc reacts n barely on games bro…
@@wrrrwrrr872 you can't just compare an athlete to a streamer
Teachers make minimum wage, oh the irony
Just as funny as women simply breathing and having dudes throw money at them.
If Mixer had come around today, I think it would've gotten much more support than it did however many years back. Would probably see many more creators up on it too, even without contracts. I forget why it died so quick though.
Because at the time Twitch didn't have dominance and poured every penny into fucking Mixer
1. microsoft
2. they forced them streamers to come to them
3. microsoft
4. exclusivity
5. microsoft
6. microsoft
it was just too early. its only 2023 when people started questioning twitch's monopoly
Mixer's User Experience was utter garbage. It never stood a chance. Dog water presentation skills and a clear lack of technological finesse.
The stickers took up 30% of the chatbox it was insanely terrible.
Mixer didn’t pay shit
Kick is Blitzscaling incarnate. What is happening with Twitch will inevitably be repeated in Kick once its venture capital backers demand it actually earn its keep
Yeah people don’t understand this. All tech startups chuck around money to try and get market share.
Which it won’t. Kick will not last 3 years (I’m being generous).
@@Christian-eq6pq if it collapses imagine how fat of a W it will be for XQC
Exactly. Twitch has problems bringing in good add money, and Kick is much less Add friendly. It isn't milking it's streamers either... this is just your typical venture capital $ bonfire.
All empires rise and fall. Just the newest coming
“This is crazy”
Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room with rats. And rats made me crazy.
Never watched even a second of XQC but Twitch getting kicked in the nuts is a view to behold.
They've been hitting their own junk with a 10lb hammer.
Enough nut kicks & they’ll be grabbing their balls to protect them by finding some reason to end Kick’s contract in using the Amazon streaming service
@@CantTellYou They'll end up breaking a deal with Azure services if they haven't already based their subsystems on it.
I'd be surprised if they were 100% Amazon dependent when taking on said company by the horns.
I think Kicks only issue could be that it will be very expensive to keep this up so if the investors do decide it is costing too much, like microsoft with mixer, they could just shut it off. I think that’s why Twitch are trying to make more money.
Not only that Mixer like Twitch is backed up by big tech unlike Kick, tbh I can't see how Kick will be able to keep up with the infrastructure cost when Amazon who has AWS and Microsoft who has Azure struggled as a streaming platform
@Sxlect and you think Amazon and Microsoft don't?
Did you even watch the full video? Kick is a Stake company, the same Stake that was banned on Twitch. They're trying to take out the middle-man and owning the full thing. They aren't going to just randomly 'lose investors' and shut it off so long as it's a platform that has gambling streams, XQC had the biggest Stake traffic aside from his gaming, do the math.
With how cheap it is to scale up and down your services in AWS / Azure if you traffic dies down, Kick has the right backing and will be around for a while. Whether it becomes a competitor to rival Twitch we will see.
@@7cmhg840doesn’t look like Amazon or Microsoft are doing anything about it Microsoft has other priorities right now anyways that will make them many more billions than these platforms.
They use AWS on the back end for Kick. Microsoft could come in at any point like they did for Parler for "hate speech". These mega corporations in silicone valley are all controlled by a small group of people. Once a threat is identified as an outsider they will be booted. Hopefully they have a plan to recover.
Charlie just randomly letting one out of his gullet mid sentence genuinely scared the piss outa me XD
Yo same
"Charlie" cringe
@@toshiro-kanowhat
@@toshiro-kano that’s his name right? 😂 wtf is cringe about it
@@toshiro-kanono viewer calls him “moist” or “critical” lmao
9:18 baby dino casually dy*ng . exe 💀💀
This is great. I hope we see more of this across the platform. Twitch needs to know that their users and creators aren’t just livestock.
@@infest1ngtf is your problem?
@@AmazingBlaze0he thought he was making a point
@@infest1ngyup the guy saying companies should treat employees better is the problem with society😐
The fact that it's been confirmed 70M with Escalators that go up to 100M for 2 years and it's non-exclusive. That blew my mind. That's damn impressive by Xqc and his team.
We should show more big corporations that if they're going to keep consistently making bad, greed focused changes that we CAN just go somewhere else
After the Reddit and Netflix disappointments, companies need to know we aren’t all just bark
the cat sleeping in the background was the best part of the video for sure
The reason Stake doesn't advertise on Kick is exactly as you said, they want to hide their involvement with the site. Thats why KiK was registered under a company registered under another company which is 1/3rd owned by the owner of Stake
Not having him under contract is so genius! Charlie’s right, even with the option I don’t think he’ll stream on twitch. Kick is subtlety putting doubt into xQc and his fans on Twitch as a platform. Idk about y’all but before this I didn’t know Kick was a thing but I do now! Kick has made themselves more money by excluding a contrasting than if they included one.
The burp at 9:19 actually jumpscared me 😭
100 million, huh. Biggest instance of "this is life" ive ever seen
i didnt think much when i saw this but to see it being 95/5 split is genuinely insane
How is that insane? Platforms are nothing without their creators.
@@toneysebits8458 i didnt meant insane in a bad way lmao
It won't last, no way can they last long term without making it more in their favour.
@@toneysebits8458yet platforms are evil and don’t value their streamers so you never see a deal like this hence twitch’s removal of the 70/30
@@toneysebits8458Creators are nothing without the infrastructure that the platform provided. I'm pretty sure Kick running their infrastructure at a loss.
Building a *free* streaming service is super expensive, that's the only reason why we don't have a lot of big players in this space, only the one who has the technical capabilities that can pull this off.
TH-cam has Google which owned Google Cloud Platform, and Twitch has Amazon which owned AWS.
Mixer technically should still survive if they do it right, since it was owned by Microsoft which also owned Azure (Microsoft's cloud business.)
I'm not sure who's behind Kick's infrastructure. But I'm sure if they use 3rd party cloud solution, it's gonna be super expensive for them to maintain.
I’m gonna be honest, everytime I think twitch is dead, it feels like it never matters people are so dedicated to twitch for some reason it’s crazy lol even the streamers stay for some reason
Ikr? Doesn't make any type of sense at all
Habit I guess? Hard to "kick" for some people
dedicated? no,twitch just like reddit is a "circle" that enjoy their whatever bullshit stupid culture etc,its where basement dweller spam thousand of chat,emote,copypasta etc,so if they want to gather twitch dweller,they basically need to create the second twitch,thats why youtube stop(for now) to beat twitch,because they think its not really that worth it to put all the effort which is ttrue for youtube,but kick are different,and with twitch keep killing itself and kick being smart,they can get the twitch streamer create a new one.
Almost like Nintendo in a way… they already have it, and there are a few exclusives, so why change?
When obviously the answer is that the company is terrible and impossible to find much reason in.
@@Ok-_-719it does, the site is just so legendary and engraved into people, it’s hard to let go.
You can see Charlie’s eyes all lit up at the idea that his kick deal is about to made as well
the first time kick started being mentioned, mostly as the graveyard of bad guys, i thought it we were talking about "kik" somehow.
This has got to be one of the most unexpected things I've ever experienced, I never though XQC would do this because he has one of the earliest contracts with Twitch which obviously was better than the later ones but at these numbers I can't blame him in the slightest.
Twitch is simply moving in the wrong direction. & kick is moving in a better direction at least for streamers and their own well being.
hello milk
I think after that Twitch admin incident, many big streamers already thinking to move away slowly. xQc happen to show his hand early.
It's easy to move in the right direction if all you do is burn venture capital.
Kick isn't even trying to make money, and we all know their end goal is very much to make money.