I think it’s more jealousy over the fact that being an attractive woman gives you power, and these guys feel like they have no power so they resent that and wanna lash out.
For those who don’t know, what he used was Thermite, a iron material, only ignitable with another material and something you can’t put it out normally, fire extinguisher can’t put it out, and water makes it worse because it will cause a bright explosion. It’s mainly used to help repair a ship or something underwater, and the fact he had a BUCKET FULL OF THERMITE, like he said, he did it premeditated
@@ieatplastic1756 you’ll need to cut off one of the fuel sources, either smothering with a special material, being alumina or anode, or let it burn but make sure anything else that could catch on fire, is away from it. So risk smothering it or stay away from it
People who don't touch grass and stay stuck in their mom's basements, play video games all day, and shoot cans in the backyard as a hobby...tend to have twisted views.
It's so scary that people are attacking her for talking about this. I had my home broken into last week while I was at work and yeah, I'm upset that things were stolen but the main thing that is affecting me is that someone violated my privacy and safety and the safety of my animals which were home alone at the time. The psychological impact is far worse than the actual event and I hope this streamer is doing okay emotionally.
@@tangytim6699 bro use your brain. Your house is supposed to be yours, your safe place that no one can bother you, or hurt you. There’s trauma with this, you feel like you aren’t safe anymore, like someone could come back and do this any time. Obviously they care about both things, but you really have no brain if you think they’re dumb for having a normal reaction.
It's not even just Twitch, KallmeKris has just had to move to a new home because stalkers were turning up at her house. It's absolutely f'ing terrifying. I can't imagine having to deal with that as a guy, living in a full and busy house. Imagine living alone as a woman and having these mentally defective freaks turning up.
@@Maximilian1990 normally yes it does but in this situation it doesn't just cause ppl like the content and use it to make money doesn't justify the behavior of those they make it off of.
I have had a stalker. It is one of the most terrifying experiences I have ever had and it went on for over a year. He never physically hurt me but the fact that he could have was too much to handle for a while.
Im sorry that happened to you Kasey, I would seriously recommend in investing in some sort of self defense item. A Taser or pepper spray if your area allows it.
I also had a stalker. He also didn't try to actually harm me. Victim services told me he was the type to walk the line without crossing it, probably as some sort of game. Apparently it's really common. It's really hard for people to understand unless they live through it or see enough of how it effects the victim.
@@Katharine888 "Victim services told me he was the type to walk the line without crossing it." I wonder how you can predict this and i suspect you probably can't.
To be honest, it's unbelievable how people can go to such lengths to just meet or do horrendous things to another person. The internet has made many people into parasocial freaks as well.
@@uriellopez2130 Click on the little emoji icon to the left of the reply button when you go to type a comment. It should pull up a whole menu full of various emojis like this one.
This reminds me of Miranda Cosgrove casually talking about how a stalker shot someone in her yard thinking it was her, and then setting himself on fire. Women need so much more protection from these crazy men
I like how oftentimes victims (usually women) are immediately called liars when they don’t have physical/tangible evidence yet here she’s STILL being called a fraud with video proof smh
@@akira8393 Lol I never said it couldn’t happen to a guy. My point is that even when objective proof is present, a significant number of people still won’t believe the victim
@retroelementshuh?? Getting attention is her job idiot, that’s how she makes money. It’s like saying a comedian wants too many people to laugh at their jokes. Even with attention she does not and did not deserve someone setting her car on fire and risking her like and that of her family and pets.
As someone who has had to go to court for a restraining order and my stalker prosecuted, it's not taken seriously enough more often than not until someone is hurt.
I get not believing every sa or grape accusation because people do lie, but someone reporting a stalker seems like the lead up to those things, why wouldnt you take that seriously and how many people would randomly accuse another of stalking without it actually being serious? Easier to prove someone is stalking you than to say the other things. Any person who stalks another like that, I want to know myself, I wouldn't want to be around anyone acting like that towards another, I need protection around that person.
Police need to take stalking a lot more seriously, and not just for women in the public sphere, but for everyone generally. Feeling unsafe in your own home, feeling like you can't go out because someone is out there who wants to find and hurt you, is one of the most psychologically-damaging things a person can experience. That level of trauma leaves permanent scars on people.
Men on TH-cam: *Show tons of footage that all but pinpoints their exact location* Stalkers: Women on TH-cam: *Go to extreme lengths to prevent even hinting at their location* Stalkers: "We have triangulated her location to within 100 yards based on quality of her sheet rock and the color of her countertop"
Its legit aggravating how much stalking is not taken seriously by both society and law enforcement until an "actual" crime is committed. Like if some random person is following somebody to their work and their home while harassing them online and making them feel unsafe, how is that not a crime?
Because following could be coincidence, and making someone feel unsafe is subjective, and in this country we have a few annoying little hangups like ‘reasonable doubt’ and ‘innocent until proven guilty’.
Because your “guilty until proven innocent” mindset is grossly archaic and led to events like the Salem Witch Trials. If you’re afraid for your life, then buy a firearm, stop being a pussy, or maybe go outside more instead of living your life in fear on the internet.
@@laurelkeeperbro when I’m in school and walk pass a pretty girl I think she thinks I’m stalking her cause it’s such a big ass school am I schizo or sum cause I always think the worst abt everything
It's scary that this happened, but honestly even scarier that people are attacking her for speaking out about this edit: All the trolls and incels in the replies saying she somehow "deserved it" need to seek help and go to therapy, or at the very least log offline and touch some grass omfg 💀
@FutaCatto thats not how stalking works. its not about the modesty or personality of the woman involved. u can do the research for yourself, the majority of women who get stalked are not e-celebs who post provocative pictures, theyre regular women who have come into contact with a mentally ill person. youre looping those women in when u say stuff like that
@Flare car being toasted and house nearly engulfed in flames, and your saying its deserved for not being "modest' plz stfu are you hearing yourself? Had this happened to you would your first thoughts be "damn i should've been more modest welp very much deserved" like no you idiot.
so she deserves hate for someone literally setting her car on fire? your mental stability is extremey questionable if thats how you think. other streamers get less attention and donations so she deserves this? like man thats insane
Another nail in the "it's all an insurance scam" coffin is that it simply would make no logical sense for Foxii to commit insurance fraud in the first place. Because 1) she already makes plenty of money and wouldn't need to resort to such measures, and 2) the fallout from getting caught would not only get her into tons of legal trouble, but would also torpedo her career into oblivion. She would be risking literally her entire livelihood for a relatively negligible amount of gain
Another day of seeing the internet being horrible. I hope she and her family can recover from this. The fact that people attacked her for this is simply disgusting.
the fact someone would stalk a streamer and light their car (and basically their house) on fire and just casually walking away like nothing is and they'll get defended by Twitter users is actually insane. How and why would anyone even remotely think of this being fake or a insurance scam is honestly depressing and shows how down atrocious the world has become
@@lyricroyal it’s not just Twitter, some people are just terminally online. Too much time on Insta, YT, Twitch, Rumble, Kick, reddit, discord, 4chan, kiwifarms, etc. People lose sight of real life
That's why it's hilarious to be to see so many companies pander to the Twitter mob, yet act extremely confused when their sales plummet and there's a massive backlash in the real world.
I’m confused how someone gets so lonely and obsessed with a streamer, a person they never will meet and never have met, get to this point where something like this happens. It’s just genuinely bizarre and disturbing that this guy worked himself up so much over a person he’s literally never met.
exactly people are becoming weak, pathetic and insane they do not love themselves and this is how it escalates(they think that they need others to feel something which is a huge lie)
I'm married and I would never say she deserves it. But I would absolutely say it's an inevitability in her line of work. And I consider streaming as a whole to be a predatory practice that directly profits off of mentally unwell people. And I'll say it again, I don't care who knows.
@@Terratetradon Getting stalked and harassed when you are in the business of fostering parasocial relationships for cash shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
How do you spend 10+ hours alone driving with the sole intent of setting a streamer’s car on fire and at no point have a single thought of self reflection and turn the car around. Unreal
Once you start driving you feel nervous and excited but during it you think about going back home, but because you've already traveled so far you feel like you can't turn around now, and you have to go through with it. -K
I’m glad the stalker was arrested, I hope the judge and jury take his case seriously and he gets put away long enough to get the mental help he needs. I’m not optimistic but it’s really getting scary how many boys/men these days can’t seem to deal with their own problems or emotions without trying to murder people.
And then progressives don’t do shit but blame other men for it and not look into WHY they are like this. Trauma? Bad parenting? NO UHHH PATREEARCHYYY. BY OTHER MEN!!!!
What’s crazy is that in Redmond, WA VERY recently a streamer was stalked online by a man who was a trucker all the way from Texas , who was making advances towards the woman who was married in her 30’s , to the point where she put a no contact order on him. He decided to travel all the way up here to her home , confronted her husband and killed him, walked into her home and killed her and then turned the gun on himself.
Holy fucking shit. I lived in Kirkland and Bellevue for the longest time and often went to Redmond. Never knew about this (granted I moved abroad a few years ago).
This is terrifying. I have friends who stream on Twitch and TH-cam and seeing shit like this? It’s actively is driving me and a lot of others away from streaming. Cause who would want to do something just for fun only for the consequences to be getting a stalker to your house and lighting your car on fire?? And people are attacking her for speaking out and sharing her story?? Why???? It makes no sense. I seriously hope that everything works out for her and she gets the justice she deserves.
@@Bleax I don’t disagree with your stance but you have to know that’s a very asshole-ish way to act right? Ah who am I kidding you’re probably just a generic edege lord who’s trying to be that way.
The people claiming that she ‘deserved’ it are just coping. She’s not ‘manipulating’ any men, she’s showing her content to audiences that choose to watch it. It’s entirely the stalkers fault for what happened
i disagree with what these woman do online but she does not deserve any of this. I rather these streamer just failed because men come to their senses but that will never happen. when she fires up her stream who do you think her audience is? what is her goal? I wont blame her for the pathetic men that do this but a girl like this who wants money from these men for just sitting in front of a camera you are gonna get some serious loney toons. Its easy money but its very risky.
@@saltycarl6581 right. im surprised she seems so amazed and stunned by the situation. i mean theres no way she didnt ever expect a stalker to form in some way when it happens ALL the time in her "line of work"
@@saltycarl6581 how self important do you have to be to go "she wants money from men for sitting in front of a camera" as if men are the only people in the world who watch a streamer's content or support them?? She is literally just doing her job and her audience builds itself around her, such a condescending thing to claim just because she is a girl with a job that so many other people have. It's a JOB, ofcourse the end goal is to get fucking paid!! Blaming her because others have no self respect or boundaries is wild, not even counting the lighting of her car on fire. No matter how wholesome you try to make a community there are ALWAYS going to be lunatics, it's the name of the game. Shit you could literally just have a 9-5 and still be subject to all manner of evil from the people you interract with!! You sound so "holier than thou" with your comment man :/
@@saltycarl6581 why is what she does any different than say a stripper? She sells her “company” she streams and people watch her. Its not her fault that weirdos don’t understand this
A Korean streamer I watched attended an event in another country, on the day she was at the airport ready to return to Korea she spots a stalker at the air port that has been stalking her for a long time, apparently the stalker stalked her from Korea and throughout this entire trip. She caught the stalker on camera just as she has always caught him on her security cameras when he would loiter outside her house. She has called the police many times but they do nothing about it and he continues to stalk her, stalkers and the lack of laws around stalking are the worst.
That’s what’s great about having a gun for situations like this where the police refuse to do something and you need to take matters into your own hands and protect yourself
I swear that people like this deserve to be locked up in a psychiatric hospital, it’s beyond terrifying and wrong violating someone’s private space and driving that long just to set their car on fire and scare the life out of them
There are no psychiatric hospitals that are forced. They were all closed by the 70s. And for good reason honestly, overcrowding, ill-treatment, and abuse of patients, and apparently many patients starved to death. All of the ones today that are not prison sentences are at will.
Situations like this make me almost understand how old people can think video games or movies can make people violent. I feel like these people see something happen on the internet and are expecting a plot twist like it's a show and not someone's life.
@@kaj7135 “Hot chicks” aren’t DOING anything, that’s the issue here. It’s not women’s fault that deranged desperate and delusional guys on the internet can’t control themselves
These people have always existed, I've read a journal from of a family member from late 1800s a man traveling across country for a job saw a 17 year old girl in a church choir (he was 40 something) and without telling anyone or ever talking to her he sold his house quit his job and moved to her town. There is people out there who've always been this way and every time you meet someone you are rolling that dice, but celebrities are just rolling that dice more now then every king and queen in history combined.
having a stalker is traumatic for so many reasons especially because most stalkers aren’t mentally sane. what tends to be a trend is if a stalker is arrested for anything involving the person being stalked they then sit in jail saying “THEY did this to me. THEY are the reason i’m in here” so it just boils up. having a fear such as him taking revenge on her for him getting in trouble is something that will never be out of her mind for as long as she lives.
This is not a Twitch issue. This has been happening to celebrities since before I was born. The internet just made stalking more doable. Stalking happens often so it is very believable. Especially to women. Even more so to women in the public eye.
if your plan is to extract money from these pathetic lonely men then be ready for some real creeps, the money is easy but comes with serious risks IMO as these guys likely have nothing to lose. These girls need to understand that this will always be an issue and its best to learn to use a gun.
It is a twitch issue. These streamers make their money through direct donations and interactions with actual people, live. They aren't selling albums or starring in movies, the amount of money they make is directly proportional to how well they can foster parasocial relationships with mentally unwell people. It's a sick business.
Stalkers are like abusive exes who can’t let go: they’ll do anything to make you pay attention to them, either good or bad. It’s not even about making you like them.
I'm a small male streamer with like 25 viewers average and even I had viewers get mad at me when I didn't answer personal questions, or some of them are desperately trying to get my attention or contact outside of the stream. It just feels super weird, I imagine it's gotta be a LOT worse for female streamers
Harassment can occur to people regardless of their gender. I'm just so sorry that you had to deal with shitty people asking you personal ass questions. Strangers these days are deranged and really give reason to be afraid. No one has morals or even the will to keep themselves out of jail. Hopefully those people leave your comment section and you can stream in peace
stalkers have existed forever and it doesn't matter who the victim is or what they do they're so delusional they'll do anything to form some sort of a connection with their obsession. They almost always escalate too. Crazy that there are still so little laws to protect people from stalkers
People love dismissing other people. They don't like to think that there could possibly be something wrong, that there could be something worth making a big fuss about.
Damn this is just sad bro. Luckily no one was physically hurt. Now the mental part. That's gonna be a hurdle to climb. Hope everything is all good with her and her mom. Just sad all around.
People going, “what does she expect from being online???” Implying just being online means you get your car torched. What she and all content creators expect is, y’know, not getting their car set on fire!!!
I don't think people realize that even if you aren't online, you could get a dangerous stalker doing exactly this to you and is capable of even worse stuff.
@@RandomSwiftie13 Countless stories of women jogging and being followed. Shit, I saw one news story of a man throwing acid on a woman and melting her face, just because she rejected him. Women get a lot of shit on or off line.
Yep. As people are more and more addicted to their online parasocial relationships, the proponents of those relationships put themselves further and further into danger by continuing to entertain and encourage their unhealthy unnatural obsession with these women. It's a sad situation all around, honestly.
Every true crime story I've seen on youtube that involves an attack or a dead body is usually accompanied by a really long drive to either the victim or the body location. Some people are nuts and when they get overly focused on something it can be dangerous.
Stalkers continue to get more dangerous. The fact that some of the people think "She invited it by being a Twitch streamer." need some help as well. Any normal individual knows the boundaries.
she didn't invite it directly, but the fact they found her address is 100% her own fault. millions of people stream everyday with complete anonymity. She failed to do what millions of people do every second of every day. Not much else to say other than weird creepos are gonna creep.
Pretty much every woman on Twitch with more than 100 viewers , and a lot of men too, have stalkers. I've seen so many streamers say they regularly deal with stalkers and file police reports. The police reports all get ignored unless there is a specific threat of a definite time and place that the stalker tries to attack them.
@@killrdoll combination of context clues (like comparing the view outside of a window with google earth) and geolocation data from certain social media posts. I also wouldn't be surprised if some people waited to see the person out in public and then follow them home.
@@killrdoll Well on one random day, the streamer shows a bit too much of his/hers room for example...and there might be like a second only long shot of his/hers window and you can see like opposite building or something....aaaand all there is left to do is for the internet to do its magic, hell people on Reddit can track you down just from random ass photo in a shop, they see some brand name in background above some other shop, they analyze everyshop possible and search for all the google map photos until they find match, boom they know your city where you live
Whenever I feel like I wish I was famous, I think about these horrific stalker stories. It's scary and while I'm sure it's sad she lost something she worked hard for, what if that person had gone a step further? The fact she has to lessen something she enjoys because there are people out there that can't control themselves is sad and frightening.
Pretty girls have always been in danger. It sucks. Everyone wants to be pretty, for what? To be thrown into the volcano? They're just regular people, leave em alone
@@Chic_Ken nah, she purposefully dresses the way she does to get followers. You dress like you belong in the RLD, you're gonna attract the same kinds of people.
I’m not even surprised by the victim blaming and people saying she’s faking it. It happens too much with women who are victims of stalkers or abusers. People love pointing the finger at us. When I was in the Army a Sgt was putting his hands on me without my permission and was being extremely abusive toward me. First person I told and thought I could trust looked me in the eyes and said “well you look like a victim. So just don’t be like that” and walked off… like seriously?! Second person I reported him to TOLD MY ABUSER I REPORTED HIM! And that made that sergeant retaliate against me and was even more abusive after that… Nobody wanted to believe me or they would try to act like I deserved it! It was maddening. I genuinely don’t understand that kind of mentality. It’s one of the biggest reasons why I left the army.
Damn, imagine a sgt who's trying to strong arm his force into shape and obedience!!! That's insane like wtf it's not like you guys are going to war or something.
@@Maximilian1990 you men r so low & hateful its actually worrisome, just in another comment you’re victim blaming the woman in the vid and now youre mocking the person who posted this comment how misogynistic incel like biased towards women of a man you are y’all need to do better
@@Maximilian1990 I don’t think slapping my ass on two occasions (sexual harassment if you needed clarification) and throwing objects at my face (physical abuse) on a daily basis and giving me black eyes and scratched corneas is within the bounds of getting us prepared for war. So don’t act like you have any idea what happened to me. You’re just as bad as the victim blamers. I was in the army for 7yrs. I know the difference between hard training and inexcusable abuse.
I don't know who she is but I'm almost convinced the reason there is this hate towards her for being a victim low key is because she is very pretty. It's something I've noticed where people dog pile attractive women about how the deserve it in some sort of deranged rage porn type of way.
Exactly, some men have this mentality to "humble the hoes" so this hatred to beautiful women is not surprising. You see the incel 4chan forums ranting how much they hate "foids" because of rejection and how they want to kill them all. I would not be surprised if he did that simply because she is a beautiful girl.
the people who hate her and say she deserved it, are only saying that simply because they could NEVER date someone as attractive, so they have this “she rejected ME so she deserves anything bad!!!” mentality
I think a lot of ppl even tho they wouldn’t go as far as the stocker, they still harbor that sentiment of entitlement and it shows in how they react to situations like this. When they can’t have a person they want, they feel rage.
It’s not just the fact that someone lit her car on fire, it’s that there are people out there who think that she deserved it and that it was a good learning experience for her…
That’s honestly crazy. I used to watch JustFoxii a lot. Sad to see this happen to someone like her. I hope her address don’t get leaked and she stays safe.
I honestly want to thank moist critical because one of his earlier videos about para social relationships stopped me from forming one around one of my favorite TH-camrs and mad me go back and think what was wrong with me and I was able to seek help before I developed a full problem.
@@AHamp123 I have to praise him for realizing this and taking care of himself. In this case it was another youtuber, could've been your aunt or your mom, or your neighbour, doesn't matter. What matters is that he treated himself
@@AHamp123 regardless it’s still a good thing that they learned about their problem before it became one. The internet is here to stay and learning to interact with it healthily is something that should be encouraged.
Some people here writing, that she should expect something like this to happen, just because she is an attractive woman streaming online. That just shows where some of the problem lies. That is just another way of saying that it is her own fault. Are you all ok? FFS..
IKR! And the irony is, all these men want women to be attractive so bad, and then turn around and get mad at attractive women and find reasons to put blame on her even when it's not even remotely her fault. Like, the hatred for women is just that strong! What the hell does these people want?
People who do negative things to their idol don’t plan to end up happy ever after with them. They know this traumatic event will stick in her memory, meaning the stalker will be in her memory and get attention (her talking about it). He got what he wanted, and now he’s getting what he deserves. Just don’t call them “JustFoxy’s stalker” or “her stalker” because it makes them feel that they are attached to their idol somehow, so if there’s ever a stalker, try to say “the stalker” instead (some advice I was given).
I've watched a few psychology videos that explain that stalkers like this want to be a force in the streamers life. Positive or negative does not matter to them. They want that attention and they want to be present in their life whatever way they can, which confuses people. It isn't as simple as "oh he really likes her so why is he doing something so horrible?". Quite simply, this sad sack of sh*t so desperately wanted the streamer to think of him, even if that is bad thoughts.
Yeah, I don't think they are capable of normal empathy and seeing others as humans. The thought process might be that they understand they don't have a chance of "happily ever after" with the target of their obsession, so they might want to punish, at least make a dent - act out in retaliation against the perceived insult to their ego. Kind of like how a severely abusive person treats their family - on some level they understand they are not loved and their family is just scared of them, there's no real respect - so they double down with the terror. It's a power thing. Also, there might be an element of magical thinking, if not downright delusional thinking. Which comes also with some personality disorders, not only more sever disorders like schizophrenia or type I bipolar with psychosis.
@@vihmaussivenitajaYou're not far off. I majored in psych and I had studied the mentality of serial killers, cult leaders, school shooters, etc. and briefly touched on people who stalk (and eventually murder) people. A part of it can be psychopathic mentally. A lot of it stemmed from behavior disorders like you said. Anti-social personality disorder was very common with people like that. It's very interesting to read how their brains are hardwired much differently compared to the average person.
@jdog167 indeed. And it seems another aspect of it can be delusion. They have this made up scenario in their head that this streamer wants them to prove their love. There was a case recently of an OF model who had a stalker who broke into her house. Its debated on what really went down but it seems as though he elieved they were in a relationship and that she wanted him to do that. So in those cases, it seems like some form of psychosis leading to delusions.
its like an rpg. not on twitch -> + charisma not on facebook -> + wisdom not on tiktok -> + attention span not on twitter -> + humanity not on reddit -> + agility
for the people who say "this is what happens to twitch streamers and popular youtubers" no, this isn't. this should not happen. what happens is they entertain an audience just like comedians and actors do. they should not be stalked and be the targets of arson attacks. being the target of this type of danger isn't part of the job. they should not have to worry about this, so don't go blaming them when they go and be happy entertaining others, because it should not be happening at all
I agree that it nobody deserves to be stalked and I also don't think it's as simple as all TH-camrs and celebrities are just entertainers. Yes comedians entertain but people watch comedians to laugh. Who do you think are her intended audience and why do you think they watched her? A lot of serial killers committed crime on victims that they're attracted to. Unfortunately, the sex work field can attract a lot of crazies, and some of them are more unhinged than others
It IS what happens. It’s a negative that is scribbled on the “con” section of a pros and cons list… more people need to see that this COULD HAPPEN TO THEM and be very aware of the dangers of their form of income! The victim and her family are okay and that’s perfect news, now all that needs to happen is that the arsonist stalker needs a long sentence to keep her safer.
"Should" is irrelevent. The same parasocial relationships that give them money have a bell curve on them that at the extreme end contains a few completely unhinged people.
as someone who was almost on international news for an arson case in 2019, its crazy that people may think there isnt people out there like that. to this day we are still at risk of an arsonist stalker cause the guy ISNT ARRESTED YET.
The real tragedy behind these incidents is the trauma behind it. That man likely won’t be in jail for the rest of his life. If I was her I would be terrified whenever he is free. When terror finally subsided J would still always feel that twinge of fear every so often. Just horrible
As someone who woke up to a house fire that ended up causing major damage, it's scary. For anyone who thinks insurance will cover it. Not quite true, a lot of the time adjusters will undervalue items ($2 for a shirt, $70 for a tv) and you often have to fight for a better value and that all becomes a huge headache on top of the trauma of a fire. I really do hope everything turns out better for this streamer and my heart goes out to their family and pets.
That and the fact that your home should be your safe place, now it has been violated. Sure I can buy a new tv or new PC, I cant buy a new life that is now threatened.
That is a problem for the average Joe/Jane. She is well off and won't need to get crazy in order to get insurance to pay. The big problem is her home and safety being violeted. That is gonna be rough to live with for a while.
Not to mention they try everything in their power to find a excuse to simply not pay them the already low amount of money they get. (for example, as where the fire started, is it actually on the property? I am not joking, for real it's even been on the channel.)
Depends on how scummy your insurance is. For homeowners/renters. Insurance includes clothing in the overall value or miscellaneous section. At least when I got mine
You know how therapeutic driving on highways can be? How the ambience just makes you self reflect on every life decision you ever took. HOW can you drive for 10 hours and still proceed with something that dumb so casually?
Every time twitch is mentioned every situation gets worse, it’s like the boogeyman of bad situations. The guy that burned her car seems like a complete psychopath.
@@ultradeathboy you do realize they backtracked on that almost immediately at OnlyFans, right? No... clearly not... even though it was just as big of a news story. Prime example of why careless news agencies publishing unvetted information can't be reversed even if publicly denounced by those who spread it...
She is clearly doing a insurance scam and trying to play the victim card. She uses her body because she is a woman to get her fans to support her while she is literally committing crimes. I can't believe scumbag streamers like her are not locked up.
I feel like once a female streamer gets popular enough they need to hire some kind of security company to help them move to a new location and cover all their tracks
people will disagree but learning to use a firearm can be very helpful. judging by the way the guy was acting in the cctv you can tell he has nothing to lose. People like this guy are very dangerous.
@Darci 「Heads Will Roll」 yeah, I was really clear. I never said full-time security. I said hiring a security service to help you move to a new location, and in such a way that you don't leave an obvious trail. It's not a continuous service. it's a single service. Think witness protection program, minus the continued surveillance.
Also, there's that lad that watched an actress, sent a letter, got one of those boilerplate automated responses from one of her team, took it as a love declaration and ended up shooting her on her own doorstep. When a mind is that sick that it can justify actions like this, it doesn't matter what the other party does. Hell, a person can be smiling while on the phone and an unstable mind may take that as flirting specifically towards them. If you don't want to blame him, blame mental illness, but you can't blame her for any of this.
hey, i know the video is already made, but you shouldn't refer to a stalker as (blank's) stalker. they want attention, they want a relationship with the person they're stalking, and they'll take anything they can get. call them "the stalker" to minimize the relationship factor. and absolutely keep calling them creepy weirdos. it's necessary to break them out of their delusion. this applies to any stalker
100% agree. Stalkers need to stop thinking that they somehow share the same future with a streamer out of just pure desire. Reality needs to be implemented
She’s honestly lucky that the guy has been arrested. 95% of the time even in you have a video of them saying they will do something and then another video of them doing it, the police will ignore you.
So this dude probably traveled from one state to another so he can burn down the property of an innocent soul that did absolutely nothing and terrorize them on impact as well, and then what? What's next? What was his end game? I'm so confused.
people will do anything when there sexually frustrated, Its why i believe legalizing and regulating prostitution would lower these amount of crimes and people substantially
I’ve literally seen certain guys who any time a woman talks about being harmed, especially by a guy, or even sometimes other women they always say it’s a lie, and they never believe to almost a delusional degree. It’s like they think women are never ever harmed, which is just ludicrous and it makes me want to pull my hair out.
where is that? i like to know where, here men are seen as monsters and often the females gets more favors than the dude, that is unless you're a crazy pronoun nutjob.
this is crazy, my heart goes out to her not just for this unfortunate tramatic experience but for all the hate that she's getting over it. it would be disgusting if she really did all of that for fraud but why would she go out of her way to put herself in danger? social media is truly an evil place and has fallen so low nowadays that people immediately blame the victim who has evidence to support their claims
Charlie: “I wouldn’t drive 700 miles to the fountain of youth”
Also Charlie: *never ages*
maybe he just likes to walk
That's cause it's in his backyard.
@@mcmlxciseaton8651 LMAO FAX 🗣
He already went there
So of course he wouldn't go again
He will die someday
It's honestly concerning how many people are desperately trying to paint her as the bad guy
Apparently, cute/woman = bad
@@luckyinky7849 literally dude 😭like I don't like to pull out the incel card but come ON bro
@@kirbyleggington7205why are people calling her a bad person?
How? What narrative are they trying to spin around?
I think it’s more jealousy over the fact that being an attractive woman gives you power, and these guys feel like they have no power so they resent that and wanna lash out.
For those who don’t know, what he used was Thermite, a iron material, only ignitable with another material and something you can’t put it out normally, fire extinguisher can’t put it out, and water makes it worse because it will cause a bright explosion. It’s mainly used to help repair a ship or something underwater, and the fact he had a BUCKET FULL OF THERMITE, like he said, he did it premeditated
So how would you put out thermite?
@@ieatplastic1756 you’ll need to cut off one of the fuel sources, either smothering with a special material, being alumina or anode, or let it burn but make sure anything else that could catch on fire, is away from it. So risk smothering it or stay away from it
@@Link60255if you add water it makes hydrogen and it gets ignited
And he knew to elevate the thermite with a brick. He did some research.
@@ieatplastic1756Patience, mostly. Most fire departments probably wouldn't have the specific chemical extinguishers on hand.
Those who say "who cares" or "what does it matter"...you've obviously never been stalked. It takes away everything from you.
Saying who cares to a situation like this is a huge red flag
@@ryanoliver5669 right? they're such slow in the head people
who cares lol
@@karatau16 Didn't realize that it was customary to ask questions you already know the answer to.
@@karatau16wow you're really cool and super funny. real edgy too for saying that. you deserve an award for that very necessary comment.
Seeing people attack her on speaking out is a clear cut example of how evil and depraved people can be.
People who don't touch grass and stay stuck in their mom's basements, play video games all day, and shoot cans in the backyard as a hobby...tend to have twisted views.
@@The__Gentplinking trash is pretty cool tbh
@@The__Gentalso you kinda have to go outside to shoot so yeah , most basement dwellers are the Reddit bots in the comments
@@benjamintodd5637 .... the hell you on about?
@@benjamintodd5637 maybe you should do what Jesus says and gouge your eyes out if you're too much of a loser to keep it in your pants and not be a pos
It's so scary that people are attacking her for talking about this. I had my home broken into last week while I was at work and yeah, I'm upset that things were stolen but the main thing that is affecting me is that someone violated my privacy and safety and the safety of my animals which were home alone at the time. The psychological impact is far worse than the actual event and I hope this streamer is doing okay emotionally.
@jackwrathchungus wow ur so cool
@Jack Wrath stop replying to everyone w this bait damn
Men hate women, what's new here?
@@tangytim6699 bro use your brain. Your house is supposed to be yours, your safe place that no one can bother you, or hurt you. There’s trauma with this, you feel like you aren’t safe anymore, like someone could come back and do this any time. Obviously they care about both things, but you really have no brain if you think they’re dumb for having a normal reaction.
@@tangytim6699 stuff can be replaced. When your safe place no longer feels safe, it messes with your head.
It's not even just Twitch, KallmeKris has just had to move to a new home because stalkers were turning up at her house. It's absolutely f'ing terrifying. I can't imagine having to deal with that as a guy, living in a full and busy house. Imagine living alone as a woman and having these mentally defective freaks turning up.
Brah i would be murdering ppl at that point like if theese streamers just live in texas theyll have 0 problems.
@@Maximilian1990 reminder have common sense it isn't hard
@@DanteStetyick that goes both ways
@@Maximilian1990 normally yes it does but in this situation it doesn't just cause ppl like the content and use it to make money doesn't justify the behavior of those they make it off of.
@@Maximilian1990 the incels and the delusional freaks need common sense noone else.
I have had a stalker. It is one of the most terrifying experiences I have ever had and it went on for over a year. He never physically hurt me but the fact that he could have was too much to handle for a while.
Im sorry that happened to you Kasey, I would seriously recommend in investing in some sort of self defense item. A Taser or pepper spray if your area allows it.
I had one too. But not that long. I'd walk down the street and be terrified he'd be there. I suspected everyone. Horrible
Date him and bore him to death lmao problem solved
I also had a stalker. He also didn't try to actually harm me. Victim services told me he was the type to walk the line without crossing it, probably as some sort of game. Apparently it's really common. It's really hard for people to understand unless they live through it or see enough of how it effects the victim.
@@Katharine888 "Victim services told me he was the type to walk the line without crossing it." I wonder how you can predict this and i suspect you probably can't.
To be honest, it's unbelievable how people can go to such lengths to just meet or do horrendous things to another person. The internet has made many people into parasocial freaks as well.
oh your just realizing??
Exactly. Like you have to have the motivation, the energy, and the determination to plans this out.
Jesus loves ye
It's creepy dudes that don't interact with women irl. It's fully believable.
J
Let me get this straight...dude travels 700 miles out of his way JUST to set this woman's car on fire? That's a new level of both deranged and petty.
how did you put that emoji
@@uriellopez2130
Nothing gets past you huh
@@teamboytoys ...and you apparently love delivering needless sarcasm. 🤡
@@uriellopez2130 Click on the little emoji icon to the left of the reply button when you go to type a comment. It should pull up a whole menu full of various emojis like this one.
Of course people are blaming her and calling her a liar.
You all need to go talk to an actual woman other than your mother.
Hey I'm interested in getting to know your mother a bit more myself
Real
does your mom have OF ??? i would like to talk to her as well, an actual woman !!!! not this twitch streamers !!!
i touch grass every day to feel human
I spoke to your mother and she told me justfoxii shouldn't have taken money from an arsonist
This reminds me of Miranda Cosgrove casually talking about how a stalker shot someone in her yard thinking it was her, and then setting himself on fire. Women need so much more protection from these crazy men
and vice versa
@@Terratetradon literally not relevant but okay
@♤Terratetradon♤ You're not bringing that up because you care about men, you're bringing that up because you can't stand women being victims
@@Terratetradon “all lives matter” energy
Jesus fucking Christ
I like how oftentimes victims (usually women) are immediately called liars when they don’t have physical/tangible evidence yet here she’s STILL being called a fraud with video proof smh
i mean the same happen to a guy the same way, cry me a river
@@akira8393 Lol I never said it couldn’t happen to a guy. My point is that even when objective proof is present, a significant number of people still won’t believe the victim
@@Yandeezysome people cannot be reasoned with unfortunately
@retroelementshuh?? Getting attention is her job idiot, that’s how she makes money. It’s like saying a comedian wants too many people to laugh at their jokes. Even with attention she does not and did not deserve someone setting her car on fire and risking her like and that of her family and pets.
@Retro Game Elements What the hell are you waffling about?
As someone who has had to go to court for a restraining order and my stalker prosecuted, it's not taken seriously enough more often than not until someone is hurt.
As somone who is somone. I am somone
@@retard_check2063 name checks out
@@retard_check2063 that’s so true
its honestly crazy how loose the legal system is when it comes to stuff like that
I get not believing every sa or grape accusation because people do lie, but someone reporting a stalker seems like the lead up to those things, why wouldnt you take that seriously and how many people would randomly accuse another of stalking without it actually being serious? Easier to prove someone is stalking you than to say the other things. Any person who stalks another like that, I want to know myself, I wouldn't want to be around anyone acting like that towards another, I need protection around that person.
Police need to take stalking a lot more seriously, and not just for women in the public sphere, but for everyone generally. Feeling unsafe in your own home, feeling like you can't go out because someone is out there who wants to find and hurt you, is one of the most psychologically-damaging things a person can experience. That level of trauma leaves permanent scars on people.
Men on TH-cam: *Show tons of footage that all but pinpoints their exact location*
Stalkers:
Women on TH-cam: *Go to extreme lengths to prevent even hinting at their location*
Stalkers: "We have triangulated her location to within 100 yards based on quality of her sheet rock and the color of her countertop"
Its legit aggravating how much stalking is not taken seriously by both society and law enforcement until an "actual" crime is committed. Like if some random person is following somebody to their work and their home while harassing them online and making them feel unsafe, how is that not a crime?
There is one simple reason for this. Lawsuits.
Because following could be coincidence, and making someone feel unsafe is subjective, and in this country we have a few annoying little hangups like ‘reasonable doubt’ and ‘innocent until proven guilty’.
@@laurelkeeper
If someone is following you and they live almost 1000 miles away...
That's not coincidence.
Because your “guilty until proven innocent” mindset is grossly archaic and led to events like the Salem Witch Trials. If you’re afraid for your life, then buy a firearm, stop being a pussy, or maybe go outside more instead of living your life in fear on the internet.
@@laurelkeeperbro when I’m in school and walk pass a pretty girl I think she thinks I’m stalking her cause it’s such a big ass school am I schizo or sum cause I always think the worst abt everything
It's scary that this happened, but honestly even scarier that people are attacking her for speaking out about this
edit: All the trolls and incels in the replies saying she somehow "deserved it" need to seek help and go to therapy, or at the very least log offline and touch some grass omfg
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@FutaCattobiggest L take I’ve read in a while dude, like holy shit what are you smoking?
@FutaCatto thats a dumbass take.
@FutaCatto thats not how stalking works. its not about the modesty or personality of the woman involved. u can do the research for yourself, the majority of women who get stalked are not e-celebs who post provocative pictures, theyre regular women who have come into contact with a mentally ill person. youre looping those women in when u say stuff like that
@Flare car being toasted and house nearly engulfed in flames, and your saying its deserved for not being "modest' plz stfu are you hearing yourself? Had this happened to you would your first thoughts be "damn i should've been more modest welp very much deserved" like no you idiot.
so she deserves hate for someone literally setting her car on fire? your mental stability is extremey questionable if thats how you think. other streamers get less attention and donations so she deserves this? like man thats insane
Another nail in the "it's all an insurance scam" coffin is that it simply would make no logical sense for Foxii to commit insurance fraud in the first place. Because 1) she already makes plenty of money and wouldn't need to resort to such measures, and 2) the fallout from getting caught would not only get her into tons of legal trouble, but would also torpedo her career into oblivion. She would be risking literally her entire livelihood for a relatively negligible amount of gain
Another day of seeing the internet being horrible. I hope she and her family can recover from this. The fact that people attacked her for this is simply disgusting.
Dude drove 11 hours to commit a crime I'll never understand how you can justify that to yourself or the willingness to expend that amount of effort
Mental illness 💀
wonder how the ride back home was for him. "Man I really set her car on fire"....like...what? Do you just pretend it never happened?
@@DivineMike379he was probably really pumped up by it
Sad waste of life
Awful perception of the world around you
the fact someone would stalk a streamer and light their car (and basically their house) on fire and just casually walking away like nothing is and they'll get defended by Twitter users is actually insane. How and why would anyone even remotely think of this being fake or a insurance scam is honestly depressing and shows how down atrocious the world has become
Seriously, this kind of mindset is seriously scary
People are sick and excessive use of twitter is a disease. End of story.
@@lyricroyal it’s not just Twitter, some people are just terminally online. Too much time on Insta, YT, Twitch, Rumble, Kick, reddit, discord, 4chan, kiwifarms, etc. People lose sight of real life
Why are they defending, whay reasons they are giving? Can someone give an unbiased context?
That's why it's hilarious to be to see so many companies pander to the Twitter mob, yet act extremely confused when their sales plummet and there's a massive backlash in the real world.
I’m confused how someone gets so lonely and obsessed with a streamer, a person they never will meet and never have met, get to this point where something like this happens. It’s just genuinely bizarre and disturbing that this guy worked himself up so much over a person he’s literally never met.
It's really common. Loneliness causes insanity to a degree. It's sad on all fronts.
exactly
people are becoming weak, pathetic and insane
they do not love themselves and this is how it escalates(they think that they need others to feel something which is a huge lie)
the only people saying she deserves it are crazy men that have never talked to a women or if they have theyve only been rejected. seek help.
I'm married and I would never say she deserves it. But I would absolutely say it's an inevitability in her line of work. And I consider streaming as a whole to be a predatory practice that directly profits off of mentally unwell people. And I'll say it again, I don't care who knows.
@@paulj6805 getting ur car lit on fire is inevitable? 💀and watching twitch makes u mentally ill
@@Terratetradon Getting stalked and harassed when you are in the business of fostering parasocial relationships for cash shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
How do you spend 10+ hours alone driving with the sole intent of setting a streamer’s car on fire and at no point have a single thought of self reflection and turn the car around. Unreal
Once you start driving you feel nervous and excited but during it you think about going back home, but because you've already traveled so far you feel like you can't turn around now, and you have to go through with it. -K
Insanity. That's how.
You spend those ten hours while having those streams on.
My heart goes out to the young lady. Living in fear is no way to live. It's so sad that people can't just live.
True, I hope all this stops eventually, these are criminals not just stalkers
i think i would legitimatly move house, if i could.
Just like me trying to live with my father... Except I can't just speak up about this because nobody asked or cares...
@@Betweentwelv32567 ur literally speaking about just now
She can just go live like a normal human, off camera and away from internet arsonists?
"Surely this will make her like me" -that guy probably
I’m glad the stalker was arrested, I hope the judge and jury take his case seriously and he gets put away long enough to get the mental help he needs. I’m not optimistic but it’s really getting scary how many boys/men these days can’t seem to deal with their own problems or emotions without trying to murder people.
And then progressives don’t do shit but blame other men for it and not look into WHY they are like this. Trauma? Bad parenting? NO UHHH PATREEARCHYYY. BY OTHER MEN!!!!
they'll claim there was no evidence like they also do, even when its shown to them
Bidens America
I seriously doubt he's going to get any "help" from being "put away." He's going to emerge after a few years when more messed up.
the only person saying someone was arrested was the streamer, you dont even know if thats true
Just imagine how many more people like this guy are possibly out there.
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Millions. That is millions of psychopaths everywhere
I bet theres like 50,000 of em 😨
Imagine though
Maybe one in this very thread 🙋
What’s crazy is that in Redmond, WA VERY recently a streamer was stalked online by a man who was a trucker all the way from Texas , who was making advances towards the woman who was married in her 30’s , to the point where she put a no contact order on him. He decided to travel all the way up here to her home , confronted her husband and killed him, walked into her home and killed her and then turned the gun on himself.
Stories like this make me ill, people like that having nothing in life
Name?
@@asuraXTC Zohreh sadeghi & her husband Milad Naseri , she was a podcaster
Holy fucking shit.
I lived in Kirkland and Bellevue for the longest time and often went to Redmond.
Never knew about this (granted I moved abroad a few years ago).
Welcome to Texas man. That’s just average texan behavior.
This is terrifying. I have friends who stream on Twitch and TH-cam and seeing shit like this? It’s actively is driving me and a lot of others away from streaming. Cause who would want to do something just for fun only for the consequences to be getting a stalker to your house and lighting your car on fire?? And people are attacking her for speaking out and sharing her story?? Why???? It makes no sense. I seriously hope that everything works out for her and she gets the justice she deserves.
That could have easily spread to the house and killed someone. This dude is insane.
I've never even heard of her until now, but the fact that this happened is disturbing on so many levels.
Why does it matter if you’ve heard of her?
@@Bleax why does it matter that he put that in his comment?
@@Bleax I don’t disagree with your stance but you have to know that’s a very asshole-ish way to act right? Ah who am I kidding you’re probably just a generic edege lord who’s trying to be that way.
@@ezeygames1914its irrelevant
@@asdf3668why does the relevancy matter?
The people claiming that she ‘deserved’ it are just coping. She’s not ‘manipulating’ any men, she’s showing her content to audiences that choose to watch it. It’s entirely the stalkers fault for what happened
Ahh thats who’s saying she deserved it, good ol internet incels 🙄
i disagree with what these woman do online but she does not deserve any of this. I rather these streamer just failed because men come to their senses but that will never happen. when she fires up her stream who do you think her audience is? what is her goal? I wont blame her for the pathetic men that do this but a girl like this who wants money from these men for just sitting in front of a camera you are gonna get some serious loney toons. Its easy money but its very risky.
@@saltycarl6581 right. im surprised she seems so amazed and stunned by the situation. i mean theres no way she didnt ever expect a stalker to form in some way when it happens ALL the time in her "line of work"
@@saltycarl6581 how self important do you have to be to go "she wants money from men for sitting in front of a camera" as if men are the only people in the world who watch a streamer's content or support them?? She is literally just doing her job and her audience builds itself around her, such a condescending thing to claim just because she is a girl with a job that so many other people have. It's a JOB, ofcourse the end goal is to get fucking paid!! Blaming her because others have no self respect or boundaries is wild, not even counting the lighting of her car on fire. No matter how wholesome you try to make a community there are ALWAYS going to be lunatics, it's the name of the game. Shit you could literally just have a 9-5 and still be subject to all manner of evil from the people you interract with!! You sound so "holier than thou" with your comment man :/
@@saltycarl6581 why is what she does any different than say a stripper? She sells her “company” she streams and people watch her. Its not her fault that weirdos don’t understand this
I will walk 500 miles and I will walk 500 more
First time hearing about this. A stalker lights someone’s car on fire and people’s first reaction is to attack the victim? This world is screwed.
America in a nutshell
A Korean streamer I watched attended an event in another country, on the day she was at the airport ready to return to Korea she spots a stalker at the air port that has been stalking her for a long time, apparently the stalker stalked her from Korea and throughout this entire trip.
She caught the stalker on camera just as she has always caught him on her security cameras when he would loiter outside her house. She has called the police many times but they do nothing about it and he continues to stalk her, stalkers and the lack of laws around stalking are the worst.
That’s what’s great about having a gun for situations like this where the police refuse to do something and you need to take matters into your own hands and protect yourself
@@Novsev9069 americans would shoot every problem in their life if they could, there are other way to solve problems that dont involve using guns
Holy hell that's terrifying
@@Novsev9069So should she just pull The gun out and shoot the person?
@@Njbear7453 if he breaks into her house she should do everything to try and talk him down but if he doesn’t listen and charges at her then yeah
I swear that people like this deserve to be locked up in a psychiatric hospital, it’s beyond terrifying and wrong violating someone’s private space and driving that long just to set their car on fire and scare the life out of them
You mean deserve to be killed. Theyre the very essence of what makes a murderer.
Jesus loves ye
First put them in jail for over a decade, then put them in the psychiatric hospital.
If Charlie was my neighbor I’d leave him alone. Maybe have coffee with him if he was in the moist mood
There are no psychiatric hospitals that are forced. They were all closed by the 70s. And for good reason honestly, overcrowding, ill-treatment, and abuse of patients, and apparently many patients starved to death.
All of the ones today that are not prison sentences are at will.
Situations like this make me almost understand how old people can think video games or movies can make people violent. I feel like these people see something happen on the internet and are expecting a plot twist like it's a show and not someone's life.
everytime i regain faith people just blow my despair wide open
People who think she deserves this need to reevaluate themselves
I’m not agreeing with them, but hot chicks do bring out the crazy in men a lot more often than other chicks do. That’s a fact.
Nobody deserves this ..this is bs
@@kaj7135 “Hot chicks” aren’t DOING anything, that’s the issue here. It’s not women’s fault that deranged desperate and delusional guys on the internet can’t control themselves
@@kaj7135Both women and men are sexist and pervs. Of course they are criminals
This shit is scary
These people have always existed, I've read a journal from of a family member from late 1800s a man traveling across country for a job saw a 17 year old girl in a church choir (he was 40 something) and without telling anyone or ever talking to her he sold his house quit his job and moved to her town. There is people out there who've always been this way and every time you meet someone you are rolling that dice, but celebrities are just rolling that dice more now then every king and queen in history combined.
what happened to the girl
@@tonypringles2285 she ded
@@tonypringles2285 she died
@@tonypringles2285she died
@@tonypringles2285she did
Very sorry this happened and glad this creep was caught
The ones blaming her are the ones who would likely do something similarly disgusting
having a stalker is traumatic for so many reasons especially because most stalkers aren’t mentally sane. what tends to be a trend is if a stalker is arrested for anything involving the person being stalked they then sit in jail saying “THEY did this to me. THEY are the reason i’m in here” so it just boils up. having a fear such as him taking revenge on her for him getting in trouble is something that will never be out of her mind for as long as she lives.
Hence the second ammendment
@@ceoatcrystalsoft4942they want my attention?
Nah they can have my 9mm
@@crimson_scum7129 ah 9mm so you can put more holes in them and they’ll feel it more I like. I’ll just use the .45 another time 😂
@@ceoatcrystalsoft4942Funny how the second amendment applies both ways.
Or for as long as he lives 🤷♂️
This is not a Twitch issue. This has been happening to celebrities since before I was born. The internet just made stalking more doable. Stalking happens often so it is very believable. Especially to women. Even more so to women in the public eye.
if your plan is to extract money from these pathetic lonely men then be ready for some real creeps, the money is easy but comes with serious risks IMO as these guys likely have nothing to lose. These girls need to understand that this will always be an issue and its best to learn to use a gun.
@@saltycarl6581 i agree w you. if ur gonna stream, esp as a woman u have to have a way to protect urself. not justifying the stalker's actions though.
Still different. These “celebrities” are interacting with their audience.
It is a twitch issue. These streamers make their money through direct donations and interactions with actual people, live. They aren't selling albums or starring in movies, the amount of money they make is directly proportional to how well they can foster parasocial relationships with mentally unwell people. It's a sick business.
@@saltycarl6581way to blame the victim… so typical
I’m convinced that the people who deny this happened and/or blame her for it happening to her are the type of people who would do this themselves.
Stalkers are like abusive exes who can’t let go: they’ll do anything to make you pay attention to them, either good or bad. It’s not even about making you like them.
I'm a small male streamer with like 25 viewers average and even I had viewers get mad at me when I didn't answer personal questions, or some of them are desperately trying to get my attention or contact outside of the stream. It just feels super weird, I imagine it's gotta be a LOT worse for female streamers
Harassment can occur to people regardless of their gender. I'm just so sorry that you had to deal with shitty people asking you personal ass questions. Strangers these days are deranged and really give reason to be afraid. No one has morals or even the will to keep themselves out of jail.
Hopefully those people leave your comment section and you can stream in peace
this is so weird, i wonder if it's loneliness for those people or something else.
@@obey_forever_mae likely loneliness, but another big factor to consider is ppl idolizing celebrities/creators
maybe one day, you'll be a big male that streams
L comment
stalkers have existed forever and it doesn't matter who the victim is or what they do
they're so delusional they'll do anything to form some sort of a connection with their obsession. They almost always escalate too. Crazy that there are still so little laws to protect people from stalkers
No laws because many of the law makers are creepy men themselves including our president.
@Jack Wrath this happened in the middle of the night. How would significant other stop this from happening?
@jackwrathchungustoo thirsty amigo, too thirsty.
@jackwrathchungus a big dog is more better in my opinion, or a gun
yeah i dont get why charlies acting like this is some new crazy twitch streamer exclusive problem. stalkers have existed since caveman days
People love dismissing other people. They don't like to think that there could possibly be something wrong, that there could be something worth making a big fuss about.
Damn this is just sad bro. Luckily no one was physically hurt. Now the mental part. That's gonna be a hurdle to climb. Hope everything is all good with her and her mom. Just sad all around.
People going, “what does she expect from being online???” Implying just being online means you get your car torched. What she and all content creators expect is, y’know, not getting their car set on fire!!!
I don't think people realize that even if you aren't online, you could get a dangerous stalker doing exactly this to you and is capable of even worse stuff.
indeed, and I've seen shows where stalking victims end up murdered
indeed, and I've seen shows where stalking victims end up murdered
@@RandomSwiftie13 Countless stories of women jogging and being followed. Shit, I saw one news story of a man throwing acid on a woman and melting her face, just because she rejected him. Women get a lot of shit on or off line.
Most of the people calling her out are most likely sexually frustrated men and jealous women…
Both sad sacks if they can’t get over themselves.
Frankly, I'm not surprised. This shit seems to be happening more and more on all platforms as the years go by
Yep. As people are more and more addicted to their online parasocial relationships, the proponents of those relationships put themselves further and further into danger by continuing to entertain and encourage their unhealthy unnatural obsession with these women. It's a sad situation all around, honestly.
idk what she expected streaming like that to a bunch of weirdos online
She's asking for it with an appearance like that
@@knox7945 bro...
@@JackTheBunnyShe should have expected to be stalked and have her car set on fire? You guys never fail to surprise me 😂
Every true crime story I've seen on youtube that involves an attack or a dead body is usually accompanied by a really long drive to either the victim or the body location. Some people are nuts and when they get overly focused on something it can be dangerous.
Well that's an absolutely terrifying reminder of the lengths people will go. Thanks.
Stalkers continue to get more dangerous. The fact that some of the people think "She invited it by being a Twitch streamer." need some help as well. Any normal individual knows the boundaries.
yeah idk what she expected streaming like that to a bunch of random weirdos online. it wasn't just because she streamed on twitch.
the internet..oh boy
Accountability, a woman's kryptonite 💁♂
she didn't invite it directly, but the fact they found her address is 100% her own fault. millions of people stream everyday with complete anonymity. She failed to do what millions of people do every second of every day. Not much else to say other than weird creepos are gonna creep.
@@Mad_Catter_ So you’re blaming the victim of an arson attack …. For being attacked ???? Wth
Pretty much every woman on Twitch with more than 100 viewers , and a lot of men too, have stalkers. I've seen so many streamers say they regularly deal with stalkers and file police reports. The police reports all get ignored unless there is a specific threat of a definite time and place that the stalker tries to attack them.
thats so terrifying, how do people even FIND their addresses to begin with!?!
@@killrdoll combination of context clues (like comparing the view outside of a window with google earth) and geolocation data from certain social media posts. I also wouldn't be surprised if some people waited to see the person out in public and then follow them home.
@@killrdoll Well on one random day, the streamer shows a bit too much of his/hers room for example...and there might be like a second only long shot of his/hers window and you can see like opposite building or something....aaaand all there is left to do is for the internet to do its magic, hell people on Reddit can track you down just from random ass photo in a shop, they see some brand name in background above some other shop, they analyze everyshop possible and search for all the google map photos until they find match, boom they know your city where you live
@@louisjackson2798 That sounds fucking terrifying. Cant even post sunset pictures without fearing that someone could easily just track you down...
@@mikedoge5559 im thankful im not a content creator....That sounds majorly draining to be on the lookout 24/7
Thank u for bringing light to this. I havent heard anything about this.
“Didn’t think a car would just burn like that”
“Yes, sir”
Whenever I feel like I wish I was famous, I think about these horrific stalker stories. It's scary and while I'm sure it's sad she lost something she worked hard for, what if that person had gone a step further? The fact she has to lessen something she enjoys because there are people out there that can't control themselves is sad and frightening.
Pretty girls have always been in danger. It sucks. Everyone wants to be pretty, for what? To be thrown into the volcano? They're just regular people, leave em alone
@Tom Holy shit Tom my guy how's life
Easy, be a neiche celebrity.
Being famous is one thing, purposefully dressing...eccentric...to get followers is another
@@Chic_Ken nah, she purposefully dresses the way she does to get followers. You dress like you belong in the RLD, you're gonna attract the same kinds of people.
I’m not even surprised by the victim blaming and people saying she’s faking it. It happens too much with women who are victims of stalkers or abusers. People love pointing the finger at us. When I was in the Army a Sgt was putting his hands on me without my permission and was being extremely abusive toward me. First person I told and thought I could trust looked me in the eyes and said “well you look like a victim. So just don’t be like that” and walked off… like seriously?! Second person I reported him to TOLD MY ABUSER I REPORTED HIM! And that made that sergeant retaliate against me and was even more abusive after that… Nobody wanted to believe me or they would try to act like I deserved it! It was maddening. I genuinely don’t understand that kind of mentality. It’s one of the biggest reasons why I left the army.
Damn, imagine a sgt who's trying to strong arm his force into shape and obedience!!! That's insane like wtf it's not like you guys are going to war or something.
@@Maximilian1990 you men r so low & hateful its actually worrisome, just in another comment you’re victim blaming the woman in the vid and now youre mocking the person who posted this comment how misogynistic incel like biased towards women of a man you are y’all need to do better
@@Maximilian1990 I don’t think slapping my ass on two occasions (sexual harassment if you needed clarification) and throwing objects at my face (physical abuse) on a daily basis and giving me black eyes and scratched corneas is within the bounds of getting us prepared for war. So don’t act like you have any idea what happened to me. You’re just as bad as the victim blamers. I was in the army for 7yrs. I know the difference between hard training and inexcusable abuse.
@McDuckles-fi4tw thank you. I moved on from the army years ago and have a full time civilian job and a lot happier now.
Uh max they said the Sargent was touching them inappropriately, I don’t think that’s needed to shape someone for war.
Hurling your existence out into the social internet always made me apprehensive and I'm so glad for it to this day.
I hope she gets left alone, it's so frustrating how this stuff isn't taken more seriously.
I don't know who she is but I'm almost convinced the reason there is this hate towards her for being a victim low key is because she is very pretty. It's something I've noticed where people dog pile attractive women about how the deserve it in some sort of deranged rage porn type of way.
Exactly, some men have this mentality to "humble the hoes" so this hatred to beautiful women is not surprising. You see the incel 4chan forums ranting how much they hate "foids" because of rejection and how they want to kill them all. I would not be surprised if he did that simply because she is a beautiful girl.
the people who hate her and say she deserved it, are only saying that simply because they could NEVER date someone as attractive, so they have this “she rejected ME so she deserves anything bad!!!” mentality
Yeah these are the kinds of people everyone avoids like a plague. The kind that's so pathetic and miserable.
@@killrdoll you sound like an actual child lmao. “Could never date someone so attractive” is such a corny thing to say
I think a lot of ppl even tho they wouldn’t go as far as the stocker, they still harbor that sentiment of entitlement and it shows in how they react to situations like this. When they can’t have a person they want, they feel rage.
It’s not just the fact that someone lit her car on fire, it’s that there are people out there who think that she deserved it and that it was a good learning experience for her…
What is there to learn other than H. sapiens are a bunch of insane unreasonable animals.
Soullessness, misery, and envy can really bring out some rot.
That’s honestly crazy. I used to watch JustFoxii a lot. Sad to see this happen to someone like her. I hope her address don’t get leaked and she stays safe.
"I wouldn't drive 700 miles for the fountain of youth" -Charlie
I drove 836 miles yesterday but I'm just constructed in an unorthodox manner
I honestly want to thank moist critical because one of his earlier videos about para social relationships stopped me from forming one around one of my favorite TH-camrs and mad me go back and think what was wrong with me and I was able to seek help before I developed a full problem.
You needed another TH-camr to tell you not to have a parasocial relationship with another TH-camr? 😭 take a break from the Internet my guy
@@AHamp123 that's actually so depressing. What would've happened if he had chosen not to watch that video that day? Would this be him right now?
@@AHamp123 People can never do anything good huh? Let's just look at every situation in the most negative way possible, jesus fucking christ.
@@AHamp123 I have to praise him for realizing this and taking care of himself. In this case it was another youtuber, could've been your aunt or your mom, or your neighbour, doesn't matter. What matters is that he treated himself
@@AHamp123 regardless it’s still a good thing that they learned about their problem before it became one. The internet is here to stay and learning to interact with it healthily is something that should be encouraged.
"I don't fear Reddit dying, I fear where Redditors will go if it does." -Winston Churchill
Give your enemies a forum to gather so they don’t gather against you - little ceasers pizza
lmao buts seriously let say those Redditors historian who get stuff wrong are now going to end up on TH-cam
Some people here writing, that she should expect something like this to happen, just because she is an attractive woman streaming online. That just shows where some of the problem lies. That is just another way of saying that it is her own fault. Are you all ok? FFS..
IKR! And the irony is, all these men want women to be attractive so bad, and then turn around and get mad at attractive women and find reasons to put blame on her even when it's not even remotely her fault. Like, the hatred for women is just that strong! What the hell does these people want?
you gotta love charlie, how else would we get to hear of stories like these
People who do negative things to their idol don’t plan to end up happy ever after with them. They know this traumatic event will stick in her memory, meaning the stalker will be in her memory and get attention (her talking about it). He got what he wanted, and now he’s getting what he deserves. Just don’t call them “JustFoxy’s stalker” or “her stalker” because it makes them feel that they are attached to their idol somehow, so if there’s ever a stalker, try to say “the stalker” instead (some advice I was given).
Is that advice from Boze vs. The World?
@@AJTheInvisibleGirl sure is.
to deny a crime is to commit it
@@alexanderleonardi3625 who said anything about denying a crime?
@@alexanderleonardi3625 I think you’re misreading these comment.
I've watched a few psychology videos that explain that stalkers like this want to be a force in the streamers life. Positive or negative does not matter to them. They want that attention and they want to be present in their life whatever way they can, which confuses people. It isn't as simple as "oh he really likes her so why is he doing something so horrible?". Quite simply, this sad sack of sh*t so desperately wanted the streamer to think of him, even if that is bad thoughts.
Yeah, I don't think they are capable of normal empathy and seeing others as humans. The thought process might be that they understand they don't have a chance of "happily ever after" with the target of their obsession, so they might want to punish, at least make a dent - act out in retaliation against the perceived insult to their ego. Kind of like how a severely abusive person treats their family - on some level they understand they are not loved and their family is just scared of them, there's no real respect - so they double down with the terror. It's a power thing. Also, there might be an element of magical thinking, if not downright delusional thinking. Which comes also with some personality disorders, not only more sever disorders like schizophrenia or type I bipolar with psychosis.
@@vihmaussivenitajaYou're not far off. I majored in psych and I had studied the mentality of serial killers, cult leaders, school shooters, etc. and briefly touched on people who stalk (and eventually murder) people. A part of it can be psychopathic mentally. A lot of it stemmed from behavior disorders like you said. Anti-social personality disorder was very common with people like that. It's very interesting to read how their brains are hardwired much differently compared to the average person.
@jdog167 indeed. And it seems another aspect of it can be delusion. They have this made up scenario in their head that this streamer wants them to prove their love. There was a case recently of an OF model who had a stalker who broke into her house. Its debated on what really went down but it seems as though he elieved they were in a relationship and that she wanted him to do that. So in those cases, it seems like some form of psychosis leading to delusions.
cant believe it, not only did pyrocinical put out a video before charlie, but he was also referenced as a source for this video 🤧
That's certainly one way to go about affrimative action
Never touching Twitch continues to be one of the best way to avoid becoming a parasocial creep
its like an rpg.
not on twitch -> + charisma
not on facebook -> + wisdom
not on tiktok -> + attention span
not on twitter -> + humanity
not on reddit -> + agility
@@angulinhiduje6093 what about TH-cam?
for the people who say "this is what happens to twitch streamers and popular youtubers" no, this isn't. this should not happen. what happens is they entertain an audience just like comedians and actors do. they should not be stalked and be the targets of arson attacks. being the target of this type of danger isn't part of the job. they should not have to worry about this, so don't go blaming them when they go and be happy entertaining others, because it should not be happening at all
I agree that it nobody deserves to be stalked and I also don't think it's as simple as all TH-camrs and celebrities are just entertainers. Yes comedians entertain but people watch comedians to laugh. Who do you think are her intended audience and why do you think they watched her? A lot of serial killers committed crime on victims that they're attracted to. Unfortunately, the sex work field can attract a lot of crazies, and some of them are more unhinged than others
It IS what happens. It’s a negative that is scribbled on the “con” section of a pros and cons list… more people need to see that this COULD HAPPEN TO THEM and be very aware of the dangers of their form of income! The victim and her family are okay and that’s perfect news, now all that needs to happen is that the arsonist stalker needs a long sentence to keep her safer.
Keep in mind this is the same species that invented school shootings and human sacrifices… I am not surprised by any of this anymore…
"Should" is irrelevent. The same parasocial relationships that give them money have a bell curve on them that at the extreme end contains a few completely unhinged people.
Social media has caused so many individuals to become detached from reality.
as someone who was almost on international news for an arson case in 2019, its crazy that people may think there isnt people out there like that.
to this day we are still at risk of an arsonist stalker cause the guy ISNT ARRESTED YET.
The real tragedy behind these incidents is the trauma behind it. That man likely won’t be in jail for the rest of his life. If I was her I would be terrified whenever he is free. When terror finally subsided J would still always feel that twinge of fear every so often. Just horrible
Yep, a restraining order obviously isn't gonna keep him away, he already showed he's ready and willing to break the law.
@@vihmaussivenitajaunfortunately, some of these people will only stop if they eat a bullet or several.
It’ll be lifelong consequences for Foxy and even the people around her. Her parents are never going to see the world the same way either.
As someone who woke up to a house fire that ended up causing major damage, it's scary.
For anyone who thinks insurance will cover it. Not quite true, a lot of the time adjusters will undervalue items ($2 for a shirt, $70 for a tv) and you often have to fight for a better value and that all becomes a huge headache on top of the trauma of a fire.
I really do hope everything turns out better for this streamer and my heart goes out to their family and pets.
That and the fact that your home should be your safe place, now it has been violated. Sure I can buy a new tv or new PC, I cant buy a new life that is now threatened.
That is a problem for the average Joe/Jane. She is well off and won't need to get crazy in order to get insurance to pay.
The big problem is her home and safety being violeted. That is gonna be rough to live with for a while.
Not to mention they try everything in their power to find a excuse to simply not pay them the already low amount of money they get. (for example, as where the fire started, is it actually on the property? I am not joking, for real it's even been on the channel.)
Depends on how scummy your insurance is. For homeowners/renters. Insurance includes clothing in the overall value or miscellaneous section. At least when I got mine
I would most certainly drive 700 miles to drink from the actual fountain of youth
You know how therapeutic driving on highways can be? How the ambience just makes you self reflect on every life decision you ever took. HOW can you drive for 10 hours and still proceed with something that dumb so casually?
Every time twitch is mentioned every situation gets worse, it’s like the boogeyman of bad situations. The guy that burned her car seems like a complete psychopath.
He’s just an average twitch user. At this point, twitch is just as despicable and irredeemable as onlyfans.
@@kaj7135difference being OF actually banned porn. Hot tub section still exists
@@ultradeathboy you do realize they backtracked on that almost immediately at OnlyFans, right? No... clearly not... even though it was just as big of a news story. Prime example of why careless news agencies publishing unvetted information can't be reversed even if publicly denounced by those who spread it...
She is clearly doing a insurance scam and trying to play the victim card. She uses her body because she is a woman to get her fans to support her while she is literally committing crimes. I can't believe scumbag streamers like her are not locked up.
Don't act like this shit hasn't happened to youtubers as well, you weirdos. TH-cam comments/chat are just as bad as twitch chat.
I feel like once a female streamer gets popular enough they need to hire some kind of security company to help them move to a new location and cover all their tracks
people will disagree but learning to use a firearm can be very helpful. judging by the way the guy was acting in the cctv you can tell he has nothing to lose. People like this guy are very dangerous.
@@saltycarl6581 firearm isn't going to be much help if he sets your place on fire while you're asleep
Security is absurdly expensive, Charlie talked about how much 1 full time security person is
@Darci 「Heads Will Roll」 yeah, I was really clear. I never said full-time security. I said hiring a security service to help you move to a new location, and in such a way that you don't leave an obvious trail.
It's not a continuous service. it's a single service. Think witness protection program, minus the continued surveillance.
@@GoD1014 just don't be asleep shit is pretty easy
sounds like hes trying to send a message
This is so crazy like why would someone do something like this
Also, there's that lad that watched an actress, sent a letter, got one of those boilerplate automated responses from one of her team, took it as a love declaration and ended up shooting her on her own doorstep. When a mind is that sick that it can justify actions like this, it doesn't matter what the other party does. Hell, a person can be smiling while on the phone and an unstable mind may take that as flirting specifically towards them. If you don't want to blame him, blame mental illness, but you can't blame her for any of this.
0:42 - But what's about fountain of tallness?
You didnt have to do him like that 😂
The 9 year olds who are like "she has insurance, she'll just get it right back," have clearly played too much GTA and been spoiled by Mors Mutual
00:01 into the video I immediately realize... He's wearing a *B* *L* *A* *C* *K* shirt. This has got to be some serious shit
hey, i know the video is already made, but you shouldn't refer to a stalker as (blank's) stalker. they want attention, they want a relationship with the person they're stalking, and they'll take anything they can get. call them "the stalker" to minimize the relationship factor. and absolutely keep calling them creepy weirdos. it's necessary to break them out of their delusion. this applies to any stalker
to deny their crime is to commit it
100% agree. Stalkers need to stop thinking that they somehow share the same future with a streamer out of just pure desire. Reality needs to be implemented
@@macd-man3787 the best way to make that thing, not person, thing, understand it has no future with her, is to TAKE its future from it
@@alexanderleonardi3625 They just said to call them a stalker, instead of calling them the stalker of (insert name).
Yeah just don't call him justfoxii's stalker
She’s honestly lucky that the guy has been arrested. 95% of the time even in you have a video of them saying they will do something and then another video of them doing it, the police will ignore you.
usually the police do it to you next
I might be wrong but I believe they are more proactive when it comes to things like arson or very expensive property damage.
So this dude probably traveled from one state to another so he can burn down the property of an innocent soul that did absolutely nothing and terrorize them on impact as well, and then what? What's next? What was his end game? I'm so confused.
6:46 As Im opening my bag of chetos after stalling for an hour, gave me a mini heart attack Charlie (im not one of the delusional haters btw)
imagine driving 700 miles just to be arrested. You know he was sad with his life
This happens a lot in To Catch a Predator. Not as long as 700 miles, but guys driving long hours just to be arrested lmao
people will do anything when there sexually frustrated, Its why i believe legalizing and regulating prostitution would lower these amount of crimes and people substantially
@@johnblake3820why? Can you explain why she deserved?
@@BasicallyBasic990your mom would be really happy if they do so
@@johnblake3820whyyyy explain your logic!
I’ve literally seen certain guys who any time a woman talks about being harmed, especially by a guy, or even sometimes other women they always say it’s a lie, and they never believe to almost a delusional degree. It’s like they think women are never ever harmed, which is just ludicrous and it makes me want to pull my hair out.
where is that? i like to know where, here men are seen as monsters and often the females gets more favors than the dude, that is unless you're a crazy pronoun nutjob.
this is crazy, my heart goes out to her not just for this unfortunate tramatic experience but for all the hate that she's getting over it. it would be disgusting if she really did all of that for fraud but why would she go out of her way to put herself in danger? social media is truly an evil place and has fallen so low nowadays that people immediately blame the victim who has evidence to support their claims
Do you blame political corruption for making it worse?
You have to be psychotic to drive 700 miles to set someone's car on fire
You gotta be pretty psychotic to set someone's car on fire