“You can feel bad for someone’s mental health while also condemning their actions” very well put Charlie Edit (6 months later): Well I never realized this comment would blow up so much (thank you btw) but it did and some time has passed so I thought I’d throw in my thoughts, especially because there is a lot of disagreement in the replies. Firstly, gambling addiction is very real. This shouldn’t even need to be clarified. The adrenaline, dopamine and endorphin highs you get from it are comparable to the highs from nicotine and heroin. Like many other mental health disorders, it is also literally hereditary. Addiction in general, and how prone individual people are to it largely runs in the family. With this, one’s ability to quit the addictive substance or lifestyle also varies greatly. Gambling is one of the most destructive disorders, both to the one inflicted by it and to his/her family and friends. It has one of the highest suicide rates of any disorder as well. Now, that’s out of the way. With that said, a disorder is by no means an excuse. He should face consequences. He probably deserves jail-time. That matter is more-so opinionated. But in reality, he needs rehabilitation more than anything. Addicts generally do have a certain degree of guilt they feel about their behavior. I’m sure especially when it has an impact on their personal relationships. I mean I’m sure there are exceptions- there are genuinely horrible people who don’t give a fuck about anyone or anything, that’s true. But in general, addicts are extremely shameful and live with much regret. Would Slicker had ever come forward to apologize, speak on his addiction, and right his wrongs if he had not been caught? Hell no. Most addicts never do. But if they ever do, most of the time it’s because they come to a point where they are forced to. A study published in Journal of Behavioral Addictions notes only up to 10% of all gambling addicts ever seek treatment. Compare that with the 10%-50% who seek help due to substance use disorders. I can link this in the replies if anyone wants. Yes, ultimately in the end an addict needs to have the self-motivation and discipline to truly get help. But most times they are too embarrassed and ashamed to come forward. That in itself I’m sure is a mental battle. His addiction is not an excuse, it doesn’t justify anything he did at all. Like I said, there should be consequences. Whether that be time in jail, paying back the money, or a combination of both is all up for debate. But rehabilitation is what he needs. Yes he’s a shitty person. Yes he should pay for what he did. I don’t think anyone is denying that. But unfortunately, this tends to be the end result for many many addicts. They are left devastated, broken, alone and helpless. A lot of times their family and friends are left the same. The thing is- they don’t need to be helpless. But, if anytime there is consequential behavior due to severe mental health conditions, disorders, addictions, etc. and the first thing we do is toss them in a jail cell to rot for life… I mean, we eliminate any opportunity to learn and study these things so that they can be treated, and more importantly prevented from ever happening in the first place. But of course, there are levels to this. A lot of times this addictive behavior only warrants help and treatment, and other times there most definitely should be consequences as well. This is probably one of those times. My original comment was by no means profound or groundbreaking. It should be common sense. But clearly it needed to be said based off the amount of disagreement there is. Anyways, that was long. I don’t really expect anyone to read all of this or even care. But that’s where I stand. Summary: gambling addiction is real. he needs to face consequences. he needs rehabilitation.
Just a nugget of wisdom for any young people. NEVER loan out money that you aren't mentally accepting you will never get back. If you can't afford to GIVE the money DO NOT LOAN IT. This will keep you from both making poor decisions and risking friendships and relationships.
And I recommend (even for family and friends, if they get pissed it is their loss) do a contract or at least some written confirmation so you have proof
My dad always told me, never loan money you can't afford to lose. Because if someone needs to "borrow" money, it will ruin a relationship if they can't pay you back. Better to not do it in the first place.
I think it's a good reminder for the viewers who lend him money. Streamers aren't your friends. They don't know you, you don't know them. They are just entertainer and that's it.
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@Nate Higgers - CEO Of Racism haha epic bro. sorry you think your fav streamers actually care about you for anything more than your money :/ get well soon homie
Not a gambling addict, but an addict in recovery here (11 years this October- woo!). Glad to see some compassion, and definitely important that Charlie mentioned that feeling bad for someone doesn't justify their actions or make it okay. It took the first... 7 years of my recovery to clean up the messes I'd made- and some of them were irreparable. And that accountability is constant and ongoing to avoid slipping back into active addiction. Hope this guy gets the help he needs and that his victims somehow get compensated.
I have a few years in recovery as well. There is a lot that I can never repair and I need to accept that it is my fault, and not beg for pity. Stay strong!
Do you guys not understand that there is ZERO PROOF about him actually being a gambling addict? Why do you suddenly all trust what that PoS says when he was lying for literal years beforehand? I just don't understand you people.
it must suck honestly, imagine donaying thousands of dollars to somebody who just loses it the next day, i feel horrible for those who tried to do a good thing
@@JohnDoe-ws4iu oh believe me I'm not justifying his behavior. My father was an alcoholic and turned to fentenaly, I know very well how adicts can tear you down to agree with them. You probably led those around you through hell but all that matters now is you're out of it while keeping true and repaying those debts. I won't give you sympathy but I know how hard it is to get off gambling or substances.
Same here dude. I’m usually the one paying for my friends and literally fighting over the bill to do so when we hang out. It’s so shocking that there’s greedy people like this
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My mom has had a gambling addiction for over 40 years. She has tried multiple programs even the “hypno-therapy” route and has never been able to stop. It has almost caused my parents to divorce MULTIPLE times. My dad, at times, has had to put her on a “ daily allowance”, she still tries to borrow money from me and everyone else in her life. People don’t take gambling addiction seriously but it legit ruins lives, tears families apart and often leads to suicide.
@@JackYOgurl606 hopefully she's doing better. Thankfully my dad controls the bills so that's not a worry but I do know of gambling addicts that have lost their homes and everything. It's sad.
I've lost a 12 year close friendship with someone I knew very dearly over money. Friendship stretched right back to 2003 and ended in 2015. Sadly they changed virtually overnight once they met their "wife" of their dreams.
I had a friend with a gambling addiction do the exact thing with everyone that worked in my company. Told everyone that he didn't have enough money to buy his young daughter any food. He would constantly call me about it until I caved in and sent him some money. Eventually, it all came to light and we stopped being friends. It was hard losing a good friend over a bit of money. What's interesting is seeing all the parallels with Sliker's situation. When they tell you not to tell anyone because "it's embarrassing", what they're really doing is stopping you from speaking to others and finding out about the scam.
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@@shreynaidoo7463 I dunno, he might have been afraid to say anything or get help, admitting you scammed your friends for money because you have a gambling addiction isn't easy and pretty damn scary. Not excusing him scamming his friends ofc.
As a recovering heroin addict I feel really bad for this guy. He just hit bottom and has a lot to answer for. But life is so beautiful man, it’s so amazing what you can come back from. I just hope he doesn’t do anything stupid and stays safe. Life is a gift man.
Its good that you say that man, I used to struggle a lot with anger issues growing up, and on several instances ive actually been arrested multiple times, and there was one point where I thought being put away for sometime meant the end of everything, but life does get better, things do change eventually. Sometimes the waiting takes so long you just want to hurt again, but I found that life is too short and too precious to waste everything on people who will only end up hurting themselves so that you won't have to. And they'll keep hurting themselves until they finally learn their lesson, and recognize the pointlessness of it all, just like I did. Only took my 19 years of being alive for me to finally understand, but hey, at least I understand. It's been almost three years now since my last incident, and hopefully I won't get into a fight again. Not at the age I am now.
I work as a casino floor supervisor and it's truly heartbreaking to watch someone dump 100,000+ in one weekend and desperately try to pull money off of their cards and bank accounts only to be cut off.
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This guy needs two things: serious time in rehab, and someone to watch over his finances, whether it's a trusted friend, a family member, or maybe someone appointed by a judge. I dunno.
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Jesus Christ died for our sins, rose from the dead, and gives salvation to everyone who has faith in him. True faith in Jesus will have you bear good fruit and *drastically* change for the better! Those led by the Holy Spirit do not abide in wickedness. 👍🏾 God is three in one; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! Bless him! As I am led by the Holy Spirit, nothing I state is a lie, but the truth of God. Anyone who tells you differently is misinformed or a liar. They do not know God, nor led by him. Anyone who *claims* to be a Christian and is against what I am doing, and where I am doing it; the Holy Spirit does not dwell within them, they lack understanding. They know not God, read his word, and their religion is in vain. Do not hear them, they will mislead you, the lost cannot guide the lost.
When you trust in God and cast your cares (worries, anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts) upon him, they will be NO MORE! Know that there is power in the name Jesus Christ! His name casts out demons and heals! The world is wicked, evil, and of the devil. I too, was a wicked sinner of the world before I opened my heart to God. I am living proof of God's work and fruitfulness! He is an active God who hears the prayers of his! God's children are set apart (holy) and righteous. The devil is a liar that comes to steal, to kill, and to destroy; that includes your relationship with God!
It's obviously sad for everyone involved but it's about time this kind of thing is brought to light and hopefully twitch reconsiders their stance on gambling
Well, it's not just about his gambling. I'm hoping it brings about more awareness in dangers of 'loaning' other people money. It's fine to lend friends who you trust some money, but dont give money to people you barely knowing, expecting it to be returned. It should be an immediate red flag if they are asking a viewer or mod to borrow money, obviously they wouldve already gone through the people they do know.
He gambled outside of his stream, not on it. He also simply asked people for money and they were sadly stupid enough to give it him. I didn’t see any contracts for repayment signed nor do I see anyone with a gun to their head forcing them to donate. It was their own choice.
On OR off Twitch, gambling is nothing but a "regulated" ("regulated" my ass frankly) industry built on creating addicts, making the greedily rich even more prosperous, producing pain and poverty, making victims' lives a living and spiraling hell, and just be a horrible plague on any society/community.
This really hits me. I have scammed my friends aswell a few years ago saying it was for school. Every single day till I confessed was the most stressful day which I could only turn for short time enjoyment by gambling. I paid them all back and they forgave me. I never gamble anymore, I do sometimes get the urge to. But the I just think to how deep I've sunken back then, the feeling goes straight away. Most of the time there is a reason people start gambling, not just because for the fun, but to forget other stuff. I hope this guy gets back up.
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I was a twitch and discord mod for Sliker, He asked every single one of us for money and even his viewers that had gifted a decent amount of subs and bits, It wasn't just steamers it were people who genuinely watched him and were a fan of his and this would be the only time they'd hear from him. He asked a discord mod of his and got annoyed at him for not wanting to paypal him money due to not wanting to leak his own personal details, apart from this none of us would hear from him, and he slowly stopped streaming. He also brought a brand new 2022 benz just last year and was taking trips to the US back and forth to visit his then girlfriend. This is all round such a messed up situation, since he would use the same excuse months apart.
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Jesus Christ died for our sins, rose from the dead, and gives salvation to everyone who has faith in him. True faith in Jesus will have you bear good fruit and *drastically* change for the better! Those led by the Holy Spirit do not abide in wickedness. 👍🏾 God is three in one; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! Bless him! As I am led by the Holy Spirit, nothing I state is a lie, but the truth of God. Anyone who tells you differently is misinformed or a liar. They do not know God, nor led by him. Anyone who *claims* to be a Christian and is against what I am doing, and where I am doing it; the Holy Spirit does not dwell within them, they lack understanding. They know not God, read his word, and their religion is in vain. Do not hear them, they will mislead you, the lost cannot guide the lost.
The fact that no one outed him in 2 years shows what often happens with scams. People feel embarrassed that they were scammed, so they don't want others to know, and they also hope that maybe they'll eventually get the money back
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while yes. it CAN make a funny story. like when i was 12 i got scammed on minecraft and cried for like 2 days. it was on hypixel and i lost my strong dragon armour 😭 truly heartbreaking 💔😥
Exactly, nobody wants to admit they took a loss. When people look at scams, they often look at what the victim did to fuck up, not how the scammer manipulated them
The "how old are you" opener is a classic -- your odds of getting someone to give you something hinge on getting a reply in the first place. Whether he knew it or not, it is a common strategy that scammers implement in their trade, because it increases the chance of success so dramatically. Just a weird, simple, cold open question to get your foot in the door.
As someone who lives with a gambling addict and has his whole life damn near I can guarantee that just because the programs exist doesn't mean the addicts will go seek help. They have to want to change
Yeah, if they want to they will. I quit cold turkey heroin/fetanyl after 3 years daily use. And the w/d’s were/are terrible. However, I was more successful than my counterparts who went to inpatient and/or outpatient. I just made the change.
@@chvIry Brother. I just wanna say, even if nobody says it here that I am proud of you. Addiction is hard to kick, and I had very similar issues to you so I can say it with pride that I am doing much better as I know you are too. Keep focusing on that long road ahead man, luv u
Asking for money sucks, when you actually need it. I have been there, messaging friends, either getting it or being told no. Then having to message a random friend you haven't talked to in ages to try again. I always paid my debts but still that feeling of having to ask when you truly need it, it's undescribable.
An ex gambling addict myself, I can’t help but feel for him to a certain degree. I have lied and stolen in the past to gamble all with the intention of winning and paying everyone back. It is a severe illness and taking my own life certainly seemed easier than stopping at the time. I hope he gets the help he needs.
@@criticalevent I think he was meaning in the aspect of gambling. He is empathizing to a certain degree with how gambling is a serious addiction. He is just sharing his experience, not comparing it.
This whole thing really just epitomizes that "One good win will set me straight" mentality that causes all gambling addicts to lose every cent they own. He had 100k at one point to get it right, and you know the moment he got it he KNEW he should've just paid it all and been done with it, but he thought "If I can just double up this 100k on one good bet, I'll be able to pay everyone back AND get even more, maybe even pay back the guy who gave me 100k or keep some for myself." And he gambled with it, and he lost it, because gamblers literally cannot fight against their addiction
@@halfpint90 It's true, I've experienced addiction many times, and it is still a choice each and every time. It might lack good judgement, but it's still a choice nonetheless.
@@halfpint90 If you really just said there's absolutely nothing you can do to "fight against addiction" then clearly you're the one who doesn't know one shit. As long as science of addictions is concerned, there's nothing that makes you 100% unable to resist 100% of the time. And it happens all the time. You have people who've been smoking a pack per day for the last 20 years but will absolutely not light the thing up whenever there's a child nearby to inhale the smoke. Happens all the time.
I mean ya he just deserves prison. Gambling addiction isnt an excuse. I hope he gets help, but I also hope he is sued and forced to pay back his victims. Happy he came out though
The worst was the cancer patient he scammed. The lady is on chemo and gave him a few thousand. He tried to get more and she told him that the money she had was for her chemo treatment, and he still tried to get it, telling her he could pay back before she went to her appointment. Scumbag
okay this is just really dumb of the woman, YOU FUCKING NEVER LEND MONEY OUT WHEN YOU CANT AFFORD IT, man rewatching this, makes me kinda glad the kids and dumb people more views who lent money and scammed learnt a lesson
Holy crap…yeah, that’s some unforgivable shit there…what a POS. Why would that woman donate to this slime when she clearly needed the money more?!?! I will truly never understand people.
The age-old advice is to never loan money to family or friends. If you feel you must, you should always assume you're not going to be paid back. I only hope that anyone who fell for his stories did not loan him anything outside their own means.
idk, my family pays each other back. It's more like don't loan money to strangers on the internet just because you like their streaming content, they're still not your friend
@@kenirainseeker539 It was not just viewers who fell for it. And he approached them as a friend to get them to give him money. There are many reasons why putting money between a familial or friendly relationship is a bad idea but the point is, if you are going to do it, it should only ever be an amount you can live without ever seeing back.
I can't help but feel brokenhearted by how many silent stories like this are being written right now by all the gambling content on twitch. Hundreds if not thousands of lives will be destroyed because of gambling being not only whitelisted but presented as cool to literal children and young adults. I am beyond disgusted by anyone associating with it from companies to streamers, these guys are far worse than scammers(in slikers case doing both) and trust me you are better of getting scammed 27k then having a gambling addiction which destroys you financially, mentally, phisically while destroing your relationships and family. Please stop it.
Gambling right now is unironically so bad gambling addicts that are trying to recover have to basically hide from the internet. They can't play games anymore because they all have gambling microtransactions in them now, they can't watch tv because gambling advertisements, they can't watch streams because gambling advertisements. They literally get bombarded ANYWHERE they go
Just because some people get addicted doesn't mean gambling is bad. Prohibition is so much worse, fuels other crime by funding criminal organizations, and makes the consequences of addiction worse, same with drugs. All drugs should be legal and sold in state licensed and regulated stores.
-he had it all... a loving community, supporting family, a girlfriend that cares about him, an honest friend group from streamers and non streamers, hes own streams were fun, he had a bright future and bigger chances to grow more. he basically won life but be he destroyed it all from gambling addiction that kept controlling him over the years. -whats sad about this is that he kept his addiction a secret for years, not even his gf or family knew about it wich made it worse, and when he got blessed with fame and money he didint seek help, he chose to fuel his addiction even more to the point of ruining his life. -lost money can come back, but lost friendships/relationships or any person that cares about him will never return, once trust is broken it can never be rebuilt. -addiction in any form is a serious issue for anyone, if you ever feel your addicted to something and you cant quit it and you know its starting to affect your life, seek help immediatly before it reaches a critical point that can cause permanent damage to your life and others around you. and if you dont feel that your addicted but others are calling you out, you must accept their help, addiction is like a prison that many peaple cant escape and help is necessary to break it.
@@EggEnjoyer Interesting! But besides having been forced to act with basically no other choice - They still didn't actually: "... as of Oct. 18, websites that offer “slots, roulette or dice games” that are not licensed in the U.S. or other jurisdictions with “sufficient consumer protections” can no longer be streamed on the platform." They merely regulated some parts of it somewhat and it most probably won't change much in the long run because it's rather easy to circumvent and the attention span of people is usually way too short to see something like this through.
@@EggEnjoyer I'd almost bet a shtton that soon there'll be licensed ones with "sufficient consumer protection", whatever that undefined empty phrase is supposed to mean, and everything will continue as usual with minor changes and a new name. But I don't gamble ;) Besides that, they exclude some of the most problematic activities from the getgo, including those used to introduce kids to gambling. Anyway, I'd be highly surprised and outright delighted if the heavy weights were to actually follow through and keep at it even if it might cost them. As of now it rather seems like virtue signaling and meaningless action with no real consequence in the end. We'll see.
this situation happened to my grandpa and a friend of his, the friend asked for money saying he was in trouble but in reality he spent it all on gambling, drugs and alcohol. i understand the pain of the people who got scammed. I really feel sorry for everyone here
This is part of why Charlie is so loved. Man sees a guy who has scammed hundreds of thousands of dollars from people and manages to condemn his actions while still painting the guy as a person. His judgement isn’t clouded by his empathy for the victims; rather, he sees both sides of the story. He recognizes that you can still be a good person despite doing bad things and I think that’s something everyone needs to learn to see. I love his quote here, “You can feel bad for someone’s mental health while also condemning their actions.” It’s such a huge statement that more people need to understand; so many people use mental health as a scapegoat and a way to avoid getting into trouble for their actions, but realistically your mental health doesn’t make you perfect despite anything you do.
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"You can feel bad for someone's mental health while also condemning their actions" This sums it up pretty well. Of course I feel terrible for all the people who reached out to lend a hand and lost their money... but the former drug addict in me knows the point he had to be at to even ask people for money in the first place. Hope he gets help and pays people back. Everyone loves a good redemption arc
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Yeah I hope he gets back on his feet while everyone he fucked over just sits there like chopped liver, such an as backwards mindset. Bro do you know how much not having that money payed back could've fucked over these people's lives? Not to mention how cheated they probably feel. He could completely recover and pay back all 300k he stole and it still wouldn't be redeeming himself.
He should be embarrassed at the very minimum. The gaslighting in some of the DMs as well.. What he did is not a small mistake or misunderstanding, he lied about what he needed the money for, and even pressured some of these people to give money to him. I hope the people that were scammed go after him legally because this man will not give them the money back otherwise.
and the guy was creepy and narcisstic enough to initiate face times with all the people so they would be even more pressured... this is not a case of addiction making a good person bad. this was an already scummy dude , turned into a predator.
Unfortunately, they’ll most likely never see their money again. Pursuing legal action to get their money back will only cost even more making it pointless to do so :/ the best thing to do is to just take the L and move on sadly
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Here's a tip, don't lend money to your friends, rather just gift it and dont expect it to be returned. Friends and money is a dangerous combo that can go South very easily
Yeahh that's what I do. So whenever I don't have extra money that I'm ok losing I tell them I don't have any money TO LOAN to THEM. and whenever I do have extra money I just expect that they won't pay me back
Funny enough, there’s a teaching about this thing exactly that goes as far back as the Torah, I think in either Wisdom or Proverbs. Don’t lend money, just gift it, don’t give an opportunity to hold onto debts and don’t let yourself get into debt as it can strain relationships. Easier said than done now with how commonplace financing and credit systems are nowadays but I think it’s wise to apply it among friends and family.
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Just goes to show that however friendly or nice your internet idol may look like, they’re still a stranger with whom you have not manner of contacting for your money back irl
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Why are there so many people who think he looks good? You can’t judge someone like that. Hitler was a nice looking person but people perception changes
As he says , “how can they trust me “ and he repeats it he can’t deal with the fact that he’s done this to people poor guy I hope he turns this around now and everything is sorted the right way and he gets help
i'm glad you pointed out that while you can feel bad and respect someone's mental state, you should not use that as a way to shield them from their responsibilities. it's not your fault if you're struggling mentally, of course. it just isn't your fault. HOWEVER, it is your responsibility - within what you can actively control - to make sure that no one else gets damaged. that being said i hope this guy gets the help he most definitely needs, and that all who donated get refunded as soon as possible.
it’s crazy how all the way up until the very end scammers won’t admit they’re in the wrong, they’ll keep lying and keep pretending they’re the victim even when both parties know the gig is up.
Can't imagine ever giving someone that much money, especially someone I've never met (viewer to streamer). Very stupid on both ends, even if it was done out of aid
Unrelated to streamers cuz i wouldn't give a cent (unless i buy a product lol) to someone i don't know but to friends and family i won't be bothered at all for hundreds of bucks. I payed for my parent's trips so they could go with me and my siblings to rome and it costed like 2k but i am never going to ask them a dollar , very big difference between family/close friends that are like family and random people online.
Alot of people get out of depression and sadness because of these people. So alot of people have no problem with it. They probably saw it as the person they looked up to needed help, and they where able to pay them back for him helping them in the past.
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@@shlomoshlomo963 same, why should i give my hard earn money to someone if i can spend on things that i need, i dont even give money to my family i rather pay the bills myself instead of trusting them.
This hits hard. With so much hate in the world and especially on the internet Charlie finds compassion for those in a deep hole they dug themselves. Although I’m definitely no contender for actual addiction problems, I do hyperfixate, which is similar. Hyperfixations take up all your time, focus, and energy and are often the reason I skip meals. You can’t really see doing anything else but fueling your temporary dopamine high. Luckily most cases of hyperfixation in people my age are harmless (in a technical sense) they still hold weight in bad habits later in life. I’ve dropped everything before to do something I was hyper focused on and didn’t really bother to interact with those around me. Addiction-in any context- is terrible for you mind. Although my “addiction” phases are much shorter and not as debilitating, I feel truly awful for what this guy’s mind is going through. I hope, for both his viewers and patrons, that this all ends up in a positive direction
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Horrible situation. It's hard for me to feel pity towards someone like this because I had someone close who has a gambling addiction and the lies they tell, the way they manipulate you to make you feel awful for them.. I hate it. I hope everyone that wasted their money on him, gets their money back somehow.
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best take ive seen on it. You can 100% condemn someone's actions but still empathize for their feelings. It's not excuse for what he did, but i sincerly hope he gets the help he needs. If he actually decides to change his life, this could likely be the best possible thing that's ever happened to him. I've seen people go through a lot worse for owing people a lot less amount of money. I hope he gets help and that he can keep his word and pay back his victims. Addiction is real in all types of forms, and i hope anyone struggling with drugs, gambling, sex, etc... can maybe use this as a way to reflect on their actions and reach out to someone to get help. It's hard, but from experience, you can change your life for the better.
I feel really bad for him, but his actions were horrible. I really don't think he understood how bad what he was doing was, and him gambling off the 100k train gave him to pay back the debts shows how really bad his addiction was. Since even knowing he had insane debt by trying to gamble others money he still gambled that 100k. I'm kind of hoping this doesn't kill his career, since if it does then the others definitely aren't getting their money back and he seems like a nice enough guy just shackled down by addiction.
I mean I would feel bad for him if he really had used all that money on gambling but he also used it to buy himself a new car and take trips so I honestly don't feel bad at all
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Something I love about you Charlie, is that even when people do heinous things like this, you are still willing to see the human side of things and have a ton of compassion for people. That's why you're a good one. Such a good egg and why I've been watching you for years and will continue to do so. :) don't you dare fucking milkshake duck me.
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This happens regardless of whether gambling is advertised or not. It's a personality trait that people are born with. Allowing gambling to be advertised and shared also allows for these stories to come out so people can get a full picture of what gambling is like. If you try hide it then people still will gamble the same, but will suffer in silence too.
@@MyNameIsSalo People still suffer in silence because it's socially accepted on Twitch and encouraged in a lot of gambling streamers chats, most will brush off some random chatter suffering and that's if they tell anyone. The only stories in the light are popular streamers like Sliker being affected.
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People this deep into addiction need to reach this rockbottom moment to begin the process to recovery. I feel for him, man. In a weird way, I'm sure he is remorseful for what he did.
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Exactly, if you try to help addicts yourself, all they’ll do is drag you down with them. They literally take advantage of those who try to support them.
Sure, it’s great that you feel for him. But actions speak a lot louder than words. He gotta pay up for his mistakes(pay back those he borrowed from), otherwise all the sentiment is meaningless. Everybody has hardship and things like this are definitely able to be overcome
It's beyond me that these people were finessed in giving this goober money. But then again, I can see how people can fall for this, but don't put yourself at risk to the point that someone can easily guilt trip towards you into doing so because people that do this have no remorse.
Somebody I thought was a friend use to guilt tripping me to give him all my time, energy and attention. He was using his illness to justify his demands. He was quite dismissive and rude regarding my own health issues. I refused to be manipulated and he became angry and controlling. l stood up to him and he accused me of being the problem and put the phone down on me. The scales have fallen from my eyes. I realise he has been using me for years. Now it's time to give all that time,energy and attention to myself and my own healing. He refuses to take any responsibility for his own life, so there is nothing more I can do. It was very hard for me to deal with.
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People think that addiction has to be alcohol and drugs or something. But stuff like this is genuinely depressing. The amount of damage that did to all of these streamers and friends and fans. It’s so heartbreaking
I remember watching a viewer/vip of his stream. She said she had given him some money because he had said he was struggling. At that time when she said this on stream she was struggling, and sliker was starting to get popular. She had then asked if he could pay back and help her out because she was struggling to pay bills. She was later locked out of her twitch account because her phone subscription got locked. On top of this her mother were in hospital fighting cancer. I haven’t heard much from her since and hope shes doing okay..
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This is so frustrating. A lot of people will hear that someone needs help and not even think about giving $5, $10, $30,000 because they are good people and can't stand the thought of someone going without or having an extreme unmet need. He literally took advantage of his viewers, and while as a therapist I feel for his mental problems and addictions, he still needs to be held responsible for his actions. Great conclusions you came to, Charlie.
Basically only gullible people with no common sense will give someone any money, never mind $30,000 just because the person asking for money is swearing on something.
@@connoc5078 Sorry, but that's not how that works. Calling someone gullible for getting scammed is like saying someone getting chemotherapy deserves to die because they never should have gotten cancer in the first place. Did you even read what you wrote or are you just seriously that dense?
What's so horrifying is that most addicts don't deal with this added weight pure spotlight on top of dealing with the consequence. Twitch, Twitter, YT, Reddit, Discord and lord know where else people who have no right to judge will be on his behind. I get the people who got scammed be upset if they choose so. My heart goes out to him and I hope he follows through to recover and be better
Gambling has damaged both mine and friends health, it's a horrible thing to get stuck into, it's a shame that he's in the situation, and it sucks even more he used friends and followers to provide for his addiction, I hope he gets the help he needs and repays back the people he stole from.
Minx went on stream at about 1:20 am this morning crying about this. You could tell how much she was hurting, having been taken advantage by her friend but also due to that friend's poor mental health and gambling addiction. I felt so bad.
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@@ItzMalick dawg read the room. I see you post on almost every comment on like 5 different channels promoting your weak ass channel. This isn't how you grow, this is how you get people to not like you and you'll get raided by dislikes and reports. Obviously not the time to "promote" your channel. Why don't you actually start putting effort into your videos snd channel to grow it. Not spamming comments with the same shit.
Dang. I actually follow Minx on Twitch but I don’t really watch her because I couldn’t engage with her content however, I also didn’t wanna unfollow her. Minx is a good woman and she doesn’t deserve any of this. I hope she’s gonna be okay and that everyone’s supporting her.
I really hope bro gets the help he needs and then can redeem himself! Addiction is absolutely terrible. Seeing it first hand and seeing it in the clinical setting is really sad
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Love how this video is about someone scamming ppl for money because they have a terrible gambling addiction, and in the middle of it I get 3 ads for "Draft Kings Casino" and Foxwoods 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
you can always take from people, just have to know the way around it. It has to do with being fine with yourself, then you won't do bad things automatically.
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Something people need to keep in mind with things like addiction is "its a reason not an excuse", you understand that they have a problem, but knowing its an addiction doesnt mean they are excused/forgiven, they still need to make reparations to be forgiven (like seeking help, paying people back, etc)
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Gambling addicts do that to their friends their closest family and everyone. Same M.O. like with heavy drugs for example... Gambling is pretty bad, i don't get why it is allowed to be advertised, not only on twitch but in sports and everywhere.
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Grew up in Niagara Falls and i'll always be haunted by this woman who jumped from the top of the hotel because she lost everything at the Casino....Crazy part is i dont know if it's PTSD but i still see the stain 20 years later dude.
seriously he's right and it needs to be said more that you can feel bad for someone having an addiction or any other illnesses/problems but still condemn their bad actions.
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Honestly one of the most disgusting ways i’ve seen someone use their platform. Taking advantage of all the people that supported him like that. Wouldn’t have expected this from him he seemed pretty chill
He probably is genuinely a decent person this type of thing can get out of hand VERY fast, gamblers fallacy kicks in and you lose control, all the sudden you're 100k in debt I've kinda experienced it on runescape
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The most awful thing about a gambling addiction is that's there's actually a small chance of success that these people just chase and chase. You can't say that with many other addictions.
It's awful seeing somebody lose themself to addiction, but there is always a degree of culpability in there. Still, anybody going through the throes of it is not in their right mind. It's heartbreaking to see addiction destroy so many lives, and not just that of the addict.
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Im in discord calls with Sliker on a daily basis. This is just really sad the amount of people he has reached. He even asked me for money- and I helped, to which he paid me back a year later... Me and his closest friend Zeq kept telling him to quit the gambling addiction and enjoy being an actual streamer with a decent viewership. But nothing worked and he went on to ask more people besides us which I only knew about now. I feel sorry for everyone else this happened to and the fact that he includes fake stories about his parents mental health to get more money. This is just sickening to watch...
Were you in a position where you could have stopped him somehow? Being in daily calls makes you seem quite close, just looking the other way when people are literally getting robbed would be pretty bad too.
You can never really get that trust back once it's been broken. Even if he comes back from this and announces that he's clean, people will always have that thought in the back of their mind thinking, "He can always relapse, he can fall off the wagon and start scamming viewers again."
The idea there are people out there giving online strangers lump sums of money is nutso. Its no wonder obvious scams from all over the world work so well, the "who the hell would fall for that" kind. Either the money is a small amount to the person, or they have a serious problem, an addiction all their own.
Logically thinking, if Trainwrecks gave him 100k and didn't ask for the money to be returned, Sliker did choose to become a scammer on his own, because he could pay the debts, but he didn't He was offered a chance to pay everything back even though he would lose respect from one person who would be Trainwrecks, but he decided to gamble everything and spread all of the money he got to some gambling website owners and other gamble addicts He only made the situation worse for himself and others, he made many people who trusted him lose money for nothing, Trainwrecks' money weren't spend on good deeds, and in the end Sliker gave himself an even worse name
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If you ever need to “lend” money to a friend just gift it instead… don’t ever lend out what you can’t afford to lose. If I gift it and then they eventually pay back that’s great! But if not it doesn’t affect my relationship with my friend at all :)
As gross as it is, it's hard not to feel bad for everyone involved, Sliker included. He knows he has a genuine illness and truly seems to feel horrible about scamming so many people. There is no way to really justify the fact he scammed so many people, but as Charlie said, you can still feel bad for someone while condemning their actions. Sliker needs help and I truly hope he gets it
Train actively advertising online slots as the main content on his streams definitely sends a different message though. Maybe he thinks his streams don’t create addicts, but there is no way gambling sites would dump millions into his sponsorships if it weren’t profitable for them.
@@VentSaviour Train constantly tell’s people in his stream not to gamble, he literally says that it can ruin ur life an don’t do it if you don’t have the money
Gambling Addiction is such a dangerous road to go down, I've had a family member in the past whose been in massive trouble for it financially. Seeing this kind of thing happen to others hurts a really deep part of my soul
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yea dude, i watch his vods a lot. I dont use twitch i prefer vods on youtube. Im actually so sad to find out what he did because he means a lot to me since he's the only one i follow on insta, and im not a social media guy i prefer to only follow people i know personally.
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This video just reminded me of why I watch you. You can be empathetic with somebody who has done horrible things. And whenever the internet is ready to just pile on someone already suffering, you're the one that steps back and sees humanity in the situation.
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I've had a similar thing happen with a friend and it turned out that he had scammed plenty of others saying he needed to pay some overdue bills and will pay it back within a few days. He even fled the country after the scam (probably because of death threats and such). It's surprising to me that gambling addicts are willing to give up their friends, family and livelihood for scams like this, but sadly that seems to be the case.
Living with and caring for someone who has a gambling addiction, It's unfathomably difficult to get them to see how their actions hurt not only themselves, but those around them. All logic goes out the window and they don't care who they have to push out of the way in order to get that next "fix". I feel bad for this man, he had to go to extreme lengths by conjuring up a string of lies to exploit those who truly care for his well-being just to fuel his addiction. It's sad and hopefully he's held accountable.
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Indeed. Tired of the "boo hoo he has a gambling addiction" comments. Nah, sod him. He's not the victim here and is fully responsible for his own actions. He lied and stole. If he's truly sorry he works every waking moment and eats nothing but rice and beans until the entire debt is paid off.
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@@drunkenhobo5039 I don't think many people are really saying "boo hoo he's a gambling addict". People aren't saying what he did is excusable or that he's a victim because of his addiction. People are just saying this is an example of why gambling addiction is so terrible.
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My mother has struggled with gambling for my entire life and it absolutely destroys relationships. seeing situations like this makes me super uncomfortable
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“You can feel bad for someone’s mental health while also condemning their actions” very well put Charlie
Edit (6 months later): Well I never realized this comment would blow up so much (thank you btw) but it did and some time has passed so I thought I’d throw in my thoughts, especially because there is a lot of disagreement in the replies.
Firstly, gambling addiction is very real. This shouldn’t even need to be clarified. The adrenaline, dopamine and endorphin highs you get from it are comparable to the highs from nicotine and heroin. Like many other mental health disorders, it is also literally hereditary. Addiction in general, and how prone individual people are to it largely runs in the family. With this, one’s ability to quit the addictive substance or lifestyle also varies greatly. Gambling is one of the most destructive disorders, both to the one inflicted by it and to his/her family and friends. It has one of the highest suicide rates of any disorder as well. Now, that’s out of the way.
With that said, a disorder is by no means an excuse. He should face consequences. He probably deserves jail-time. That matter is more-so opinionated. But in reality, he needs rehabilitation more than anything.
Addicts generally do have a certain degree of guilt they feel about their behavior. I’m sure especially when it has an impact on their personal relationships. I mean I’m sure there are exceptions- there are genuinely horrible people who don’t give a fuck about anyone or anything, that’s true. But in general, addicts are extremely shameful and live with much regret.
Would Slicker had ever come forward to apologize, speak on his addiction, and right his wrongs if he had not been caught? Hell no. Most addicts never do. But if they ever do, most of the time it’s because they come to a point where they are forced to. A study published in Journal of Behavioral Addictions notes only up to 10% of all gambling addicts ever seek treatment. Compare that with the 10%-50% who seek help due to substance use disorders. I can link this in the replies if anyone wants.
Yes, ultimately in the end an addict needs to have the self-motivation and discipline to truly get help. But most times they are too embarrassed and ashamed to come forward. That in itself I’m sure is a mental battle. His addiction is not an excuse, it doesn’t justify anything he did at all. Like I said, there should be consequences. Whether that be time in jail, paying back the money, or a combination of both is all up for debate. But rehabilitation is what he needs.
Yes he’s a shitty person. Yes he should pay for what he did. I don’t think anyone is denying that. But unfortunately, this tends to be the end result for many many addicts. They are left devastated, broken, alone and helpless. A lot of times their family and friends are left the same. The thing is- they don’t need to be helpless. But, if anytime there is consequential behavior due to severe mental health conditions, disorders, addictions, etc. and the first thing we do is toss them in a jail cell to rot for life… I mean, we eliminate any opportunity to learn and study these things so that they can be treated, and more importantly prevented from ever happening in the first place.
But of course, there are levels to this. A lot of times this addictive behavior only warrants help and treatment, and other times there most definitely should be consequences as well. This is probably one of those times.
My original comment was by no means profound or groundbreaking. It should be common sense. But clearly it needed to be said based off the amount of disagreement there is.
Anyways, that was long. I don’t really expect anyone to read all of this or even care. But that’s where I stand.
Summary: gambling addiction is real. he needs to face consequences. he needs rehabilitation.
You can pity the dog with rabies without having to pet it.
Nah why would you feel bad for a scammer he deserves to rot in jail
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@@gojodied you just dont get it, do you
@@gojodied that’s a bit harsh
Just a nugget of wisdom for any young people. NEVER loan out money that you aren't mentally accepting you will never get back. If you can't afford to GIVE the money DO NOT LOAN IT. This will keep you from both making poor decisions and risking friendships and relationships.
Very good advice. Always work on the premise that you won't get anything back.
and if you need to be told that then probably get someone else to look after your money because you will get scammed
And I recommend (even for family and friends, if they get pissed it is their loss) do a contract or at least some written confirmation so you have proof
My dad always told me, never loan money you can't afford to lose. Because if someone needs to "borrow" money, it will ruin a relationship if they can't pay you back. Better to not do it in the first place.
Good advice ^^
I think it's a good reminder for the viewers who lend him money. Streamers aren't your friends.
They don't know you, you don't know them. They are just entertainer and that's it.
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@Nate Higgers - CEO Of Racism haha epic bro.
sorry you think your fav streamers actually care about you for anything more than your money :/
get well soon homie
Not a gambling addict, but an addict in recovery here (11 years this October- woo!). Glad to see some compassion, and definitely important that Charlie mentioned that feeling bad for someone doesn't justify their actions or make it okay. It took the first... 7 years of my recovery to clean up the messes I'd made- and some of them were irreparable. And that accountability is constant and ongoing to avoid slipping back into active addiction. Hope this guy gets the help he needs and that his victims somehow get compensated.
I have a few years in recovery as well. There is a lot that I can never repair and I need to accept that it is my fault, and not beg for pity. Stay strong!
Stay strong king/queen
Respect but u need to have more discipline my g
Same boat here. One day at a time
Do you guys not understand that there is ZERO PROOF about him actually being a gambling addict? Why do you suddenly all trust what that PoS says when he was lying for literal years beforehand? I just don't understand you people.
Never heard of him but imagine being one of his fans who donated. The betrayal.
The overall viewers dropping off graph kinda reminds you of the iceberg the Titanic hit.
Kind of a cognitive thing giving your money to a gambler anyways
Imagine giving you’re money to some loser who plays video games 18 hours a day lol
@Kavetion no one asked
it must suck honestly, imagine donaying thousands of dollars to somebody who just loses it the next day, i feel horrible for those who tried to do a good thing
I feel bad even asking my friends to borrow $20, this is insane lmao
Same here but he might also feel guilty. You can have a guilty conscience and continue said action. It all comes down to addiction in my opinion.
@@JohnDoe-ws4iu oh believe me I'm not justifying his behavior. My father was an alcoholic and turned to fentenaly, I know very well how adicts can tear you down to agree with them. You probably led those around you through hell but all that matters now is you're out of it while keeping true and repaying those debts. I won't give you sympathy but I know how hard it is to get off gambling or substances.
@@jasonbrewer6714 true
Still remember when I was like 12 at a state fair and a mate of mine gave me $4 for a Dagwood Dog. Ben you the real one.
Same here dude. I’m usually the one paying for my friends and literally fighting over the bill to do so when we hang out. It’s so shocking that there’s greedy people like this
I grew up with gambling parents and it’s a terrible terrible thing. I really hope he takes time away from everything and gets some real help for this.
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hugs man.
is it too personal of a question? but how horrible was it living with them?
Nah the guys the most annoying person on earth , I hope he just leaves twitch.
My mom has had a gambling addiction for over 40 years. She has tried multiple programs even the “hypno-therapy” route and has never been able to stop. It has almost caused my parents to divorce MULTIPLE times. My dad, at times, has had to put her on a “ daily allowance”, she still tries to borrow money from me and everyone else in her life. People don’t take gambling addiction seriously but it legit ruins lives, tears families apart and often leads to suicide.
Multiple times. It is a real problem.
My mom had the same problem like 6 years ago, almost lost the house
@@JackYOgurl606 hopefully she's doing better. Thankfully my dad controls the bills so that's not a worry but I do know of gambling addicts that have lost their homes and everything. It's sad.
@@JackYOgurl606 idk why multiple is capitalized, I must have accidentally hit something.
@@Just_Reading_Comments it makes perfect sense why it is capitalized, you must have done it on purpose
Man, Dom saying he hates the fact that he lost a friend over money just... Sucks, I feel sorry for everyone here
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Don’t feel sorry for this streamer . He should get much more hate than he’s already getting
@@UncleRedsnow Starting a sentence with "imagine" makes you sound 15 years old. I hate both of you equally. Good day.
I've lost a 12 year close friendship with someone I knew very dearly over money. Friendship stretched right back to 2003 and ended in 2015. Sadly they changed virtually overnight once they met their "wife" of their dreams.
I had a friend with a gambling addiction do the exact thing with everyone that worked in my company. Told everyone that he didn't have enough money to buy his young daughter any food. He would constantly call me about it until I caved in and sent him some money. Eventually, it all came to light and we stopped being friends. It was hard losing a good friend over a bit of money. What's interesting is seeing all the parallels with Sliker's situation. When they tell you not to tell anyone because "it's embarrassing", what they're really doing is stopping you from speaking to others and finding out about the scam.
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Yeah, I think its both to maniplute you and they are probably embarrassed. Just like a Heroin addict would be.
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Had a friend who told me a sob story about his grandma needed some money to help, he was doing fetinol(idk how to spell it) and a couple other drugs
@@EonsEternity fentanyl*
It’s nice that he admitted that he did wrong, but the fact that he took advantage of people who were so happy to help him is still really sad.
He only admitted when he got caught
@@shreynaidoo7463 exactly. He is sad/sorry because he got caught
@@dohnaseek exactly. He doesn't give a shit that he robbed people of their money
You guys are 12 and have no idea how addiction works, do you?
@@shreynaidoo7463 I dunno, he might have been afraid to say anything or get help, admitting you scammed your friends for money because you have a gambling addiction isn't easy and pretty damn scary. Not excusing him scamming his friends ofc.
As a recovering heroin addict I feel really bad for this guy. He just hit bottom and has a lot to answer for. But life is so beautiful man, it’s so amazing what you can come back from. I just hope he doesn’t do anything stupid and stays safe. Life is a gift man.
good luck on your journey dude
Good luck on that and congrats so far that's awesome man. How long you been free?
Life isn’t a gift to everyone, but that’s the sad truth
Its good that you say that man, I used to struggle a lot with anger issues growing up, and on several instances ive actually been arrested multiple times, and there was one point where I thought being put away for sometime meant the end of everything, but life does get better, things do change eventually. Sometimes the waiting takes so long you just want to hurt again, but I found that life is too short and too precious to waste everything on people who will only end up hurting themselves so that you won't have to. And they'll keep hurting themselves until they finally learn their lesson, and recognize the pointlessness of it all, just like I did. Only took my 19 years of being alive for me to finally understand, but hey, at least I understand. It's been almost three years now since my last incident, and hopefully I won't get into a fight again. Not at the age I am now.
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I work as a casino floor supervisor and it's truly heartbreaking to watch someone dump 100,000+ in one weekend and desperately try to pull money off of their cards and bank accounts only to be cut off.
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And yet you still perpetuate the system that robs them.
@@ClipsRandomStuff-wk7ys There are many businesses out there that fuck long and hard as their modus operandi.
@@kilderok tf he supposed to do about it
@@kilderok Just dont gamble lmao
This guy needs two things: serious time in rehab, and someone to watch over his finances, whether it's a trusted friend, a family member, or maybe someone appointed by a judge. I dunno.
is this a breaking bad reference
@@Candzzol how the fuck is that a breaking bad reference
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Jesus Christ died for our sins, rose from the dead, and gives salvation to everyone who has faith in him. True faith in Jesus will have you bear good fruit and *drastically* change for the better! Those led by the Holy Spirit do not abide in wickedness. 👍🏾
God is three in one; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! Bless him!
As I am led by the Holy Spirit, nothing I state is a lie, but the truth of God. Anyone who tells you differently is misinformed or a liar. They do not know God, nor led by him.
Anyone who *claims* to be a Christian and is against what I am doing, and where I am doing it; the Holy Spirit does not dwell within them, they lack understanding. They know not God, read his word, and their religion is in vain. Do not hear them, they will mislead you, the lost cannot guide the lost.
When you trust in God and cast your cares (worries, anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts) upon him, they will be NO MORE!
Know that there is power in the name Jesus Christ! His name casts out demons and heals!
The world is wicked, evil, and of the devil.
I too, was a wicked sinner of the world before I opened my heart to God. I am living proof of God's work and fruitfulness! He is an active God who hears the prayers of his! God's children are set apart (holy) and righteous. The devil is a liar that comes to steal, to kill, and to destroy; that includes your relationship with God!
It's obviously sad for everyone involved but it's about time this kind of thing is brought to light and hopefully twitch reconsiders their stance on gambling
I don't think most people even knew he gambled, that wasn't what his stream was
I mean it's not like twitch would be able to tell, lol
Well, it's not just about his gambling. I'm hoping it brings about more awareness in dangers of 'loaning' other people money. It's fine to lend friends who you trust some money, but dont give money to people you barely knowing, expecting it to be returned. It should be an immediate red flag if they are asking a viewer or mod to borrow money, obviously they wouldve already gone through the people they do know.
He gambled outside of his stream, not on it. He also simply asked people for money and they were sadly stupid enough to give it him. I didn’t see any contracts for repayment signed nor do I see anyone with a gun to their head forcing them to donate. It was their own choice.
On OR off Twitch, gambling is nothing but a "regulated" ("regulated" my ass frankly) industry built on creating addicts, making the greedily rich even more prosperous, producing pain and poverty, making victims' lives a living and spiraling hell, and just be a horrible plague on any society/community.
This really hits me. I have scammed my friends aswell a few years ago saying it was for school. Every single day till I confessed was the most stressful day which I could only turn for short time enjoyment by gambling. I paid them all back and they forgave me. I never gamble anymore, I do sometimes get the urge to. But the I just think to how deep I've sunken back then, the feeling goes straight away.
Most of the time there is a reason people start gambling, not just because for the fun, but to forget other stuff. I hope this guy gets back up.
King👑
well said. proud of you for your journey in recovery
I hope he goes to prison for scamming thousands of people.
King shit fr
@@GoldCookBook Cringe shit fr
charlie perfectly modeling being empathetic while still holding someone accountable, you love to see it
Yep. So few people are able to walk that fine line in 2022.
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@@ItzMalick Noones gonna watch you if you keep spamming the same comment on everyone’s reply
@@knotsoangelic the channel aint active anymore, guess they realized their existence was pathetic
I was a twitch and discord mod for Sliker, He asked every single one of us for money and even his viewers that had gifted a decent amount of subs and bits, It wasn't just steamers it were people who genuinely watched him and were a fan of his and this would be the only time they'd hear from him. He asked a discord mod of his and got annoyed at him for not wanting to paypal him money due to not wanting to leak his own personal details, apart from this none of us would hear from him, and he slowly stopped streaming.
He also brought a brand new 2022 benz just last year and was taking trips to the US back and forth to visit his then girlfriend. This is all round such a messed up situation, since he would use the same excuse months apart.
Dude thinks he’s ballin with other people’s money
why are we fans of people now
oh god this is so sad.
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Jesus Christ died for our sins, rose from the dead, and gives salvation to everyone who has faith in him. True faith in Jesus will have you bear good fruit and *drastically* change for the better! Those led by the Holy Spirit do not abide in wickedness. 👍🏾
God is three in one; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! Bless him!
As I am led by the Holy Spirit, nothing I state is a lie, but the truth of God. Anyone who tells you differently is misinformed or a liar. They do not know God, nor led by him.
Anyone who *claims* to be a Christian and is against what I am doing, and where I am doing it; the Holy Spirit does not dwell within them, they lack understanding. They know not God, read his word, and their religion is in vain. Do not hear them, they will mislead you, the lost cannot guide the lost.
The fact that no one outed him in 2 years shows what often happens with scams. People feel embarrassed that they were scammed, so they don't want others to know, and they also hope that maybe they'll eventually get the money back
Yeah, this is how it goes… once you’re deep in debt, you can either get busted immediately or go on on the slimmest chance to make it back.
Yeah I never ever expected this in a million years yo
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while yes. it CAN make a funny story. like when i was 12 i got scammed on minecraft and cried for like 2 days. it was on hypixel and i lost my strong dragon armour 😭
truly heartbreaking 💔😥
Exactly, nobody wants to admit they took a loss. When people look at scams, they often look at what the victim did to fuck up, not how the scammer manipulated them
The "how old are you" opener is a classic -- your odds of getting someone to give you something hinge on getting a reply in the first place.
Whether he knew it or not, it is a common strategy that scammers implement in their trade, because it increases the chance of success so dramatically. Just a weird, simple, cold open question to get your foot in the door.
As someone who lives with a gambling addict and has his whole life damn near I can guarantee that just because the programs exist doesn't mean the addicts will go seek help. They have to want to change
Yeah, if they want to they will. I quit cold turkey heroin/fetanyl after 3 years daily use. And the w/d’s were/are terrible. However, I was more successful than my counterparts who went to inpatient and/or outpatient.
I just made the change.
And yes I know heroin/fetanyl are exceedingly different than gambling, but just the fundamentals of having a crippling addiction
@@chvIry btw man congrats for recovering, stay strong king 👑
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
@@chvIry Brother. I just wanna say, even if nobody says it here that I am proud of you. Addiction is hard to kick, and I had very similar issues to you so I can say it with pride that I am doing much better as I know you are too.
Keep focusing on that long road ahead man, luv u
Never expected him to be a scammer
i'm better than penguinz0
These bots bro💀
i'm better than penguinz0
So many bots god damm
@@imcomingafteryou2749 bro i know right💀💀
Sucks to see him turn out a scammer, Sliker was pretty funny back when he was popular
Yeah
i'm better than penguinz0
I'M BETTER THAN PENGUINZ0
didnt even read your comment lmao imagine watching penguinz0
he was always scummy lmao
Asking for money sucks, when you actually need it. I have been there, messaging friends, either getting it or being told no. Then having to message a random friend you haven't talked to in ages to try again. I always paid my debts but still that feeling of having to ask when you truly need it, it's undescribable.
An ex gambling addict myself, I can’t help but feel for him to a certain degree. I have lied and stolen in the past to gamble all with the intention of winning and paying everyone back. It is a severe illness and taking my own life certainly seemed easier than stopping at the time.
I hope he gets the help he needs.
@@criticalevent I think he was meaning in the aspect of gambling. He is empathizing to a certain degree with how gambling is a serious addiction. He is just sharing his experience, not comparing it.
No such thing as Ex gambling addict
@@fatassdogs8617 bro what
@@fatassdogs8617 Yes there is though. There is plenty of people who have quit gambling and never returned..
@@criticalevent here we go, yt experts
This whole thing really just epitomizes that "One good win will set me straight" mentality that causes all gambling addicts to lose every cent they own. He had 100k at one point to get it right, and you know the moment he got it he KNEW he should've just paid it all and been done with it, but he thought "If I can just double up this 100k on one good bet, I'll be able to pay everyone back AND get even more, maybe even pay back the guy who gave me 100k or keep some for myself." And he gambled with it, and he lost it, because gamblers literally cannot fight against their addiction
Hi would you like some candy I'm trust worthy don't worry. I can show you my big rocketship.
@@dreahdickinson9602 OK so you clearly don't understand addiction
@@dreahdickinson9602 You can always fight against those who force you to do things.
@@halfpint90 It's true, I've experienced addiction many times, and it is still a choice each and every time. It might lack good judgement, but it's still a choice nonetheless.
@@halfpint90 If you really just said there's absolutely nothing you can do to "fight against addiction" then clearly you're the one who doesn't know one shit. As long as science of addictions is concerned, there's nothing that makes you 100% unable to resist 100% of the time.
And it happens all the time. You have people who've been smoking a pack per day for the last 20 years but will absolutely not light the thing up whenever there's a child nearby to inhale the smoke. Happens all the time.
This is a sad situation. I hope he gets the help he needs, and I hope those that were kind enough to give him money get closure and reimbursed
prison will help
@@cryptic3461 He won't go to prison sadly.
I mean ya he just deserves prison. Gambling addiction isnt an excuse. I hope he gets help, but I also hope he is sued and forced to pay back his victims. Happy he came out though
Not to mention prison wont help him
@@theicelandicviking4474 ‘victims’ is a generous term. More ‘gullible idiots’
The worst was the cancer patient he scammed. The lady is on chemo and gave him a few thousand. He tried to get more and she told him that the money she had was for her chemo treatment, and he still tried to get it, telling her he could pay back before she went to her appointment. Scumbag
Whoa whoa what?!
Wtfff
okay this is just really dumb of the woman, YOU FUCKING NEVER LEND MONEY OUT WHEN YOU CANT AFFORD IT, man rewatching this, makes me kinda glad the kids and dumb people more views who lent money and scammed learnt a lesson
I can't understand how anyone could be so dumb. However, I he went too far the moment he started asking others for money. Man deserves to be in prison
Holy crap…yeah, that’s some unforgivable shit there…what a POS. Why would that woman donate to this slime when she clearly needed the money more?!?! I will truly never understand people.
The age-old advice is to never loan money to family or friends. If you feel you must, you should always assume you're not going to be paid back. I only hope that anyone who fell for his stories did not loan him anything outside their own means.
idk, my family pays each other back. It's more like don't loan money to strangers on the internet just because you like their streaming content, they're still not your friend
@@kenirainseeker539 It was not just viewers who fell for it. And he approached them as a friend to get them to give him money. There are many reasons why putting money between a familial or friendly relationship is a bad idea but the point is, if you are going to do it, it should only ever be an amount you can live without ever seeing back.
This is so true, even for your bestest closest friend
@@kenirainseeker539 there are countless of cases where family members scam another, who obviously trusts them. It sucks but it happens
Yup agree that's why I don't want to asked money to my family or friends
I can't help but feel brokenhearted by how many silent stories like this are being written right now by all the gambling content on twitch. Hundreds if not thousands of lives will be destroyed because of gambling being not only whitelisted but presented as cool to literal children and young adults. I am beyond disgusted by anyone associating with it from companies to streamers, these guys are far worse than scammers(in slikers case doing both) and trust me you are better of getting scammed 27k then having a gambling addiction which destroys you financially, mentally, phisically while destroing your relationships and family. Please stop it.
Gambling right now is unironically so bad gambling addicts that are trying to recover have to basically hide from the internet. They can't play games anymore because they all have gambling microtransactions in them now, they can't watch tv because gambling advertisements, they can't watch streams because gambling advertisements. They literally get bombarded ANYWHERE they go
Exactly! I never liked the fact that gambling was allowed on twitch, cause they get sponsored and it's scummy to me.
Just because some people get addicted doesn't mean gambling is bad. Prohibition is so much worse, fuels other crime by funding criminal organizations, and makes the consequences of addiction worse, same with drugs. All drugs should be legal and sold in state licensed and regulated stores.
@@poiu477 bad take
@@poiu477 idk where you got prohibition from, just don't fucking advertise it to children and teens
-he had it all... a loving community, supporting family, a girlfriend that cares about him, an honest friend group from streamers and non streamers, hes own streams were fun, he had a bright future and bigger chances to grow more. he basically won life but be he destroyed it all from gambling addiction that kept controlling him over the years.
-whats sad about this is that he kept his addiction a secret for years, not even his gf or family knew about it wich made it worse, and when he got blessed with fame and money he didint seek help, he chose to fuel his addiction even more to the point of ruining his life.
-lost money can come back, but lost friendships/relationships or any person that cares about him will never return, once trust is broken it can never be rebuilt.
-addiction in any form is a serious issue for anyone, if you ever feel your addicted to something and you cant quit it and you know its starting to affect your life, seek help immediatly before it reaches a critical point that can cause permanent damage to your life and others around you.
and if you dont feel that your addicted but others are calling you out, you must accept their help, addiction is like a prison that many peaple cant escape and help is necessary to break it.
@mllop aeet Twitch: *counting money*
@mllop aeet Yeah, they won't ever.
@@EggEnjoyer
Interesting!
But besides having been forced to act with basically no other choice - They still didn't actually:
"... as of Oct. 18, websites that offer “slots, roulette or dice games” that are not licensed in the U.S. or other jurisdictions with “sufficient consumer protections” can no longer be streamed on the platform."
They merely regulated some parts of it somewhat and it most probably won't change much in the long run because it's rather easy to circumvent and the attention span of people is usually way too short to see something like this through.
@@EggEnjoyer
I'd almost bet a shtton that soon there'll be licensed ones with "sufficient consumer protection", whatever that undefined empty phrase is supposed to mean, and everything will continue as usual with minor changes and a new name. But I don't gamble ;)
Besides that, they exclude some of the most problematic activities from the getgo, including those used to introduce kids to gambling.
Anyway, I'd be highly surprised and outright delighted if the heavy weights were to actually follow through and keep at it even if it might cost them.
As of now it rather seems like virtue signaling and meaningless action with no real consequence in the end. We'll see.
or a prison for them to rot in, not everyone deserves help
this situation happened to my grandpa and a friend of his, the friend asked for money saying he was in trouble but in reality he spent it all on gambling, drugs and alcohol. i understand the pain of the people who got scammed. I really feel sorry for everyone here
This is part of why Charlie is so loved. Man sees a guy who has scammed hundreds of thousands of dollars from people and manages to condemn his actions while still painting the guy as a person. His judgement isn’t clouded by his empathy for the victims; rather, he sees both sides of the story. He recognizes that you can still be a good person despite doing bad things and I think that’s something everyone needs to learn to see.
I love his quote here, “You can feel bad for someone’s mental health while also condemning their actions.” It’s such a huge statement that more people need to understand; so many people use mental health as a scapegoat and a way to avoid getting into trouble for their actions, but realistically your mental health doesn’t make you perfect despite anything you do.
Chalies been on a tear lately
perfect. i like this. ^^
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literally how everyone should think anyway.
@@snd_fr That’s really true, but unfortunately it is also very rare
"You can feel bad for someone's mental health while also condemning their actions" This sums it up pretty well. Of course I feel terrible for all the people who reached out to lend a hand and lost their money... but the former drug addict in me knows the point he had to be at to even ask people for money in the first place. Hope he gets help and pays people back. Everyone loves a good redemption arc
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Glad to hear that you've recovered, man! I hope the future treats you kindly 🤟
Yeah I hope he gets back on his feet while everyone he fucked over just sits there like chopped liver, such an as backwards mindset. Bro do you know how much not having that money payed back could've fucked over these people's lives? Not to mention how cheated they probably feel. He could completely recover and pay back all 300k he stole and it still wouldn't be redeeming himself.
His viewers enable him. People have to want help, and with people actively enabling him it will continue. Thats the cycle of degeneration.
He should be embarrassed at the very minimum. The gaslighting in some of the DMs as well.. What he did is not a small mistake or misunderstanding, he lied about what he needed the money for, and even pressured some of these people to give money to him.
I hope the people that were scammed go after him legally because this man will not give them the money back otherwise.
and the guy was creepy and narcisstic enough to initiate face times with all the people so they would be even more pressured... this is not a case of addiction making a good person bad. this was an already scummy dude , turned into a predator.
Unfortunately, they’ll most likely never see their money again. Pursuing legal action to get their money back will only cost even more making it pointless to do so :/ the best thing to do is to just take the L and move on sadly
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The fact one of the people he scammed money out of was from their chemo treatment fund is what really gets to me.
What annoys me is that guy gave his money to Sliker instead of paying for his chemo. Unless it was already paid for idk but still.
Here's a tip, don't lend money to your friends, rather just gift it and dont expect it to be returned. Friends and money is a dangerous combo that can go South very easily
Yeahh that's what I do. So whenever I don't have extra money that I'm ok losing I tell them I don't have any money TO LOAN to THEM. and whenever I do have extra money I just expect that they won't pay me back
Funny enough, there’s a teaching about this thing exactly that goes as far back as the Torah, I think in either Wisdom or Proverbs. Don’t lend money, just gift it, don’t give an opportunity to hold onto debts and don’t let yourself get into debt as it can strain relationships.
Easier said than done now with how commonplace financing and credit systems are nowadays but I think it’s wise to apply it among friends and family.
Idk it all depends on the person but can’t relate since I don’t have any
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It depends on the person and amount of money
The fact that someone gave him 100k to pay everything back and he chose to just gamble that away instead....woah
He was given 45k when probably owed 150k or so.
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@@michaelh878 Still serves to highlight how far gone he is to just keep gambling despite being given valid outs time and time again.
Serves to highlight how financially illiterate and how socially gullible that person is.
Just goes to show that however friendly or nice your internet idol may look like, they’re still a stranger with whom you have not manner of contacting for your money back irl
I'M BETTER THAN PENGUINZ0
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Why are there so many people who think he looks good? You can’t judge someone like that. Hitler was a nice looking person but people perception changes
Bro these bots, youtube will surely die in a year
As he says , “how can they trust me “ and he repeats it he can’t deal with the fact that he’s done this to people poor guy I hope he turns this around now and everything is sorted the right way and he gets help
i'm glad you pointed out that while you can feel bad and respect someone's mental state, you should not use that as a way to shield them from their responsibilities.
it's not your fault if you're struggling mentally, of course. it just isn't your fault. HOWEVER, it is your responsibility - within what you can actively control - to make sure that no one else gets damaged.
that being said i hope this guy gets the help he most definitely needs, and that all who donated get refunded as soon as possible.
it’s crazy how all the way up until the very end scammers won’t admit they’re in the wrong, they’ll keep lying and keep pretending they’re the victim even when both parties know the gig is up.
Dont read my name,,😑 ,,,,
He already admitted he's fully in the wrong, but get your likes king
@@YEAGERlST read again, he said until the very end, weeb.
@@YEAGERlST he lied
It's crazy how everything is a scam. Everyone is paid an inordinate amount. Especially TH-camrs.
Can't imagine ever giving someone that much money, especially someone I've never met (viewer to streamer). Very stupid on both ends, even if it was done out of aid
Unrelated to streamers cuz i wouldn't give a cent (unless i buy a product lol) to someone i don't know but to friends and family i won't be bothered at all for hundreds of bucks.
I payed for my parent's trips so they could go with me and my siblings to rome and it costed like 2k but i am never going to ask them a dollar , very big difference between family/close friends that are like family and random people online.
Alot of people get out of depression and sadness because of these people. So alot of people have no problem with it. They probably saw it as the person they looked up to needed help, and they where able to pay them back for him helping them in the past.
like i'd imagine a streamer to have that kind of money, right? Like why are you coming to ask me who definetly obviously earns less than you.
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@@shlomoshlomo963 same, why should i give my hard earn money to someone if i can spend on things that i need, i dont even give money to my family i rather pay the bills myself instead of trusting them.
This hits hard. With so much hate in the world and especially on the internet Charlie finds compassion for those in a deep hole they dug themselves. Although I’m definitely no contender for actual addiction problems, I do hyperfixate, which is similar.
Hyperfixations take up all your time, focus, and energy and are often the reason I skip meals. You can’t really see doing anything else but fueling your temporary dopamine high. Luckily most cases of hyperfixation in people my age are harmless (in a technical sense) they still hold weight in bad habits later in life. I’ve dropped everything before to do something I was hyper focused on and didn’t really bother to interact with those around me. Addiction-in any context- is terrible for you mind. Although my “addiction” phases are much shorter and not as debilitating, I feel truly awful for what this guy’s mind is going through. I hope, for both his viewers and patrons, that this all ends up in a positive direction
It’s just really sad, addiction is a hell of a thing to go through. Sad to see what it does to people
it makes bad people worse. it makes good people suffer in silence.
@Walz Random Stuff Nobody is saying it is an excuse, but it’s an explanation.
@Walz Random Stuff he not saying it does he probably means it sucks to see how addiction can make people u care for and respect turn in to this
Rings even more true with how popular gambling streams have become
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Charlie comes every once in a while and expresses unusual things in a neutral tone. Legend.
i'm better than penguinz0
So much bots
Bros got all the bots
The video is 21 minutes long, and it came out 6 minutes ago, do you even know what the video is about?
Jesus Christ these bots man wtf
Hopefully Twitch finally takes a stance against gambling on the website after this
no cap i’ve been seeing way to much open gambling on social media. i don’t see the point in gambling anyways.
Wtf Pokémon man watches charlie
@@tendaTBH the point of gambling is to give a shady company money and then get nothing back.
@@Scyborg832 the point of gambling is to manipulate rich people. But then they become poor and then you're manipulating poor people.
They won’t, they also won’t get rid of channel points or streamers buying loot boxes. They don’t care
Horrible situation. It's hard for me to feel pity towards someone like this because I had someone close who has a gambling addiction and the lies they tell, the way they manipulate you to make you feel awful for them.. I hate it. I hope everyone that wasted their money on him, gets their money back somehow.
"npc glitching out in a questline"
Charlie always finds a way to hit us with hilarious unexpected comparisons, even on-stream
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@@ItzMalick Is there a money-back gaurantee because I'm never getting my time back.
I hope he's able to kick the addiction and get the money paid back, I feel bad for everyone involved in this situation.
best take ive seen on it. You can 100% condemn someone's actions but still empathize for their feelings. It's not excuse for what he did, but i sincerly hope he gets the help he needs. If he actually decides to change his life, this could likely be the best possible thing that's ever happened to him. I've seen people go through a lot worse for owing people a lot less amount of money. I hope he gets help and that he can keep his word and pay back his victims. Addiction is real in all types of forms, and i hope anyone struggling with drugs, gambling, sex, etc... can maybe use this as a way to reflect on their actions and reach out to someone to get help. It's hard, but from experience, you can change your life for the better.
I feel really bad for him, but his actions were horrible. I really don't think he understood how bad what he was doing was, and him gambling off the 100k train gave him to pay back the debts shows how really bad his addiction was. Since even knowing he had insane debt by trying to gamble others money he still gambled that 100k. I'm kind of hoping this doesn't kill his career, since if it does then the others definitely aren't getting their money back and he seems like a nice enough guy just shackled down by addiction.
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Agreed.
I mean I would feel bad for him if he really had used all that money on gambling but he also used it to buy himself a new car and take trips so I honestly don't feel bad at all
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this is just heartbreaking for everyone involved, on every level, from every angle.
except for the scamming piece of shit.
Something I love about you Charlie, is that even when people do heinous things like this, you are still willing to see the human side of things and have a ton of compassion for people. That's why you're a good one. Such a good egg and why I've been watching you for years and will continue to do so. :) don't you dare fucking milkshake duck me.
Compassion for scammers? He should have has thieving hands cut off!
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@@Vaultboythefightingmachine huh
@@Vaultboythefightingmachine huh?
Was, Bruder?
This is exactly why we are so mad that people are advertising gambling to kids..... God, the irony of this happening to a streamer is insane...
This happens regardless of whether gambling is advertised or not. It's a personality trait that people are born with. Allowing gambling to be advertised and shared also allows for these stories to come out so people can get a full picture of what gambling is like. If you try hide it then people still will gamble the same, but will suffer in silence too.
@@MyNameIsSalo People still suffer in silence because it's socially accepted on Twitch and encouraged in a lot of gambling streamers chats, most will brush off some random chatter suffering and that's if they tell anyone. The only stories in the light are popular streamers like Sliker being affected.
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@@MyNameIsSalo ur making it sound like advertising meant to make you want to gamble is doing something good, lol? no?
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People this deep into addiction need to reach this rockbottom moment to begin the process to recovery. I feel for him, man. In a weird way, I'm sure he is remorseful for what he did.
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Exactly, if you try to help addicts yourself, all they’ll do is drag you down with them. They literally take advantage of those who try to support them.
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Sure, it’s great that you feel for him. But actions speak a lot louder than words. He gotta pay up for his mistakes(pay back those he borrowed from), otherwise all the sentiment is meaningless. Everybody has hardship and things like this are definitely able to be overcome
@@stephaniecurry45 I agree 100% honestly he should do jail time.
Imagine giving money to streamers that are known gamblers.
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He wasn't known for gambling as far as i'm aware, if anything it goes against his religion as a muslim since that is seen as haram.
@@deepsavings3126 scamming people isn't part of Islam either but he did do it
@@deepsavings3126 He made a video admiting to having gambling problems unfortunately
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It's beyond me that these people were finessed in giving this goober money. But then again, I can see how people can fall for this, but don't put yourself at risk to the point that someone can easily guilt trip towards you into doing so because people that do this have no remorse.
@Kavetion bet
@@goodytchannelngl4956 that's a bot, ma boy
Somebody I thought was a friend use to guilt tripping me to give him all my time, energy and attention. He was using his illness to justify his demands. He was quite dismissive and rude regarding my own health issues. I refused to be manipulated and he became angry and controlling. l stood up to him and he accused me of being the problem and put the phone down on me. The scales have fallen from my eyes. I realise he has been using me for years. Now it's time to give all that time,energy and attention to myself and my own healing. He refuses to take any responsibility for his own life, so there is nothing more I can do. It was very hard for me to deal with.
@@raymark6802 hey man, good on you for thinking it through. You got this.
@@raymark6802 damn thats unfortunate. I hope you get well and over that pos. Wish well homie
This is why I will never gamble. See a gambling addiction in someone is scary to watch. I don’t want that for myself.
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Not only that, it's mathematically rigged against you. It doesn't just hurt you either, it often hurts the people around you too.
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People think that addiction has to be alcohol and drugs or something. But stuff like this is genuinely depressing. The amount of damage that did to all of these streamers and friends and fans. It’s so heartbreaking
You are an incredible person and I appreciate you having a logical approach to situations like this. Addiction is awful, but not an excuse.
Damn, he's a scammer? Literally did no expect that, what a shame
@@Diedqra haha same
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I remember watching a viewer/vip of his stream. She said she had given him some money because he had said he was struggling. At that time when she said this on stream she was struggling, and sliker was starting to get popular. She had then asked if he could pay back and help her out because she was struggling to pay bills. She was later locked out of her twitch account because her phone subscription got locked. On top of this her mother were in hospital fighting cancer. I haven’t heard much from her since and hope shes doing okay..
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Being greedy and into gambling while being a very popular streamer/content creator is the worst combination
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You never know what dark secrets could be hiding under any content creator.
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@Adolfizzz0 bro legitimate question do you type all this out on every comment or do you just copy and paste?
@@animeweeb6156 what a dumb question
@@animeweeb6156 I don't think he could type all that in 10 minutes
@@haroldbalczac6431 most
Bots make fun of TH-camrs relatives deaths and I’m sitting here like that’s fucked up, they’re so annoying.
This is so frustrating. A lot of people will hear that someone needs help and not even think about giving $5, $10, $30,000 because they are good people and can't stand the thought of someone going without or having an extreme unmet need. He literally took advantage of his viewers, and while as a therapist I feel for his mental problems and addictions, he still needs to be held responsible for his actions. Great conclusions you came to, Charlie.
Basically only gullible people with no common sense will give someone any money, never mind $30,000 just because the person asking for money is swearing on something.
@@connoc5078 Sorry, but that's not how that works. Calling someone gullible for getting scammed is like saying someone getting chemotherapy deserves to die because they never should have gotten cancer in the first place. Did you even read what you wrote or are you just seriously that dense?
What's so horrifying is that most addicts don't deal with this added weight pure spotlight on top of dealing with the consequence. Twitch, Twitter, YT, Reddit, Discord and lord know where else people who have no right to judge will be on his behind. I get the people who got scammed be upset if they choose so. My heart goes out to him and I hope he follows through to recover and be better
Gambling has damaged both mine and friends health, it's a horrible thing to get stuck into, it's a shame that he's in the situation, and it sucks even more he used friends and followers to provide for his addiction, I hope he gets the help he needs and repays back the people he stole from.
Minx went on stream at about 1:20 am this morning crying about this. You could tell how much she was hurting, having been taken advantage by her friend but also due to that friend's poor mental health and gambling addiction. I felt so bad.
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@@ItzMalick dawg read the room. I see you post on almost every comment on like 5 different channels promoting your weak ass channel. This isn't how you grow, this is how you get people to not like you and you'll get raided by dislikes and reports. Obviously not the time to "promote" your channel. Why don't you actually start putting effort into your videos snd channel to grow it. Not spamming comments with the same shit.
Dang. I actually follow Minx on Twitch but I don’t really watch her because I couldn’t engage with her content however, I also didn’t wanna unfollow her. Minx is a good woman and she doesn’t deserve any of this. I hope she’s gonna be okay and that everyone’s supporting her.
I really hope bro gets the help he needs and then can redeem himself! Addiction is absolutely terrible. Seeing it first hand and seeing it in the clinical setting is really sad
When he breaks down and says he’s not a victim cuts deep. Shitty deal for sure, one can only hope he gets the help he needs and rights his wrongs.
He's a snake. He's only sorry he got caught.
Dude's got massive behavioral issues.
@@tyleroptional2639 he sia slo a known manipulator like most gambling addicts
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Nah I hope he is the 20% in the statistic brought up in the video
Love how this video is about someone scamming ppl for money because they have a terrible gambling addiction, and in the middle of it I get 3 ads for "Draft Kings Casino" and Foxwoods 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
Imagine having a community that cares about you and then steal from them....never put yourself in a position where you can take from people
Remember when he was trying to get into the US. They probably knew why
you can always take from people, just have to know the way around it. It has to do with being fine with yourself, then you won't do bad things automatically.
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Something people need to keep in mind with things like addiction is "its a reason not an excuse", you understand that they have a problem, but knowing its an addiction doesnt mean they are excused/forgiven, they still need to make reparations to be forgiven (like seeking help, paying people back, etc)
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@@james14294 james14294 the savior of TH-cam
It's not entirely their fault but it is their responsibility
@@legend7951 No. It's 100% their fault. You are responsible for your actions.
Scamming your "friends" means you never saw those people as actual friends
Many gambling addicts (any addict actually) will literally do the same shit to their relatives.
Gambling addicts do that to their friends their closest family and everyone. Same M.O. like with heavy drugs for example... Gambling is pretty bad, i don't get why it is allowed to be advertised, not only on twitch but in sports and everywhere.
@@DreamskyDance its not ads are illegals for gambling but they find loophole you cant buy someone to promote it but you can buy someone to play it
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Grew up in Niagara Falls and i'll always be haunted by this woman who jumped from the top of the hotel because she lost everything at the Casino....Crazy part is i dont know if it's PTSD but i still see the stain 20 years later dude.
seriously he's right and it needs to be said more that you can feel bad for someone having an addiction or any other illnesses/problems but still condemn their bad actions.
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Honestly one of the most disgusting ways i’ve seen someone use their platform. Taking advantage of all the people that supported him like that. Wouldn’t have expected this from him he seemed pretty chill
People love money.
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@@EBTS-3 lmao they did
Yeah he look chill he look like he wouldn’t even go to your funeral so who cares about that guy let him breathe all the oxygen in through his mouth
He probably is genuinely a decent person this type of thing can get out of hand VERY fast, gamblers fallacy kicks in and you lose control, all the sudden you're 100k in debt I've kinda experienced it on runescape
The fact this keeps happening is wild
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No it’s not
The most awful thing about a gambling addiction is that's there's actually a small chance of success that these people just chase and chase. You can't say that with many other addictions.
It's awful seeing somebody lose themself to addiction, but there is always a degree of culpability in there.
Still, anybody going through the throes of it is not in their right mind. It's heartbreaking to see addiction destroy so many lives, and not just that of the addict.
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Im in discord calls with Sliker on a daily basis. This is just really sad the amount of people he has reached. He even asked me for money- and I helped, to which he paid me back a year later... Me and his closest friend Zeq kept telling him to quit the gambling addiction and enjoy being an actual streamer with a decent viewership. But nothing worked and he went on to ask more people besides us which I only knew about now.
I feel sorry for everyone else this happened to and the fact that he includes fake stories about his parents mental health to get more money. This is just sickening to watch...
lol
Were you in a position where you could have stopped him somehow?
Being in daily calls makes you seem quite close, just looking the other way when people are literally getting robbed would be pretty bad too.
@@indigo7898 did you read what he wrote?
@@indigo7898 did u read any of the comment?
@@indigo7898 hurrrrr
You can never really get that trust back once it's been broken. Even if he comes back from this and announces that he's clean, people will always have that thought in the back of their mind thinking, "He can always relapse, he can fall off the wagon and start scamming viewers again."
The idea there are people out there giving online strangers lump sums of money is nutso. Its no wonder obvious scams from all over the world work so well, the "who the hell would fall for that" kind. Either the money is a small amount to the person, or they have a serious problem, an addiction all their own.
12:20 the alarm ticked me more than the scams
Logically thinking, if Trainwrecks gave him 100k and didn't ask for the money to be returned, Sliker did choose to become a scammer on his own, because he could pay the debts, but he didn't
He was offered a chance to pay everything back even though he would lose respect from one person who would be Trainwrecks, but he decided to gamble everything and spread all of the money he got to some gambling website owners and other gamble addicts
He only made the situation worse for himself and others, he made many people who trusted him lose money for nothing, Trainwrecks' money weren't spend on good deeds, and in the end Sliker gave himself an even worse name
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If you ever need to “lend” money to a friend just gift it instead… don’t ever lend out what you can’t afford to lose. If I gift it and then they eventually pay back that’s great! But if not it doesn’t affect my relationship with my friend at all :)
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This Is really stellar advice. I do the same thing, and I’ve never been in a situation where I loan big amounts. Loaning money ruins friendships.
Live my life by this rule and it will save friendships. However if you do this often for a friend and they rarely return the favor, it is a red flag.
if you want to turn your friends to leeches then go on
Taking advantage of the people who helped him live an awesome life is pretty gross.
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He needs to eat every WE FU item ever mixed together as punishment ❤️
As gross as it is, it's hard not to feel bad for everyone involved, Sliker included. He knows he has a genuine illness and truly seems to feel horrible about scamming so many people. There is no way to really justify the fact he scammed so many people, but as Charlie said, you can still feel bad for someone while condemning their actions. Sliker needs help and I truly hope he gets it
THIS is how harmful addiction is
Wow, thanks captain obvious. Great input mate. 👍
Major props to Train for attempting to save the dude's life. Gambling addiction is a very serious thing.
Train actively advertising online slots as the main content on his streams definitely sends a different message though. Maybe he thinks his streams don’t create addicts, but there is no way gambling sites would dump millions into his sponsorships if it weren’t profitable for them.
@@VentSaviour Train constantly tell’s people in his stream not to gamble, he literally says that it can ruin ur life an don’t do it if you don’t have the money
Gambling Addiction is such a dangerous road to go down, I've had a family member in the past whose been in massive trouble for it financially. Seeing this kind of thing happen to others hurts a really deep part of my soul
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Definitely, it can destroy people
This is just without a doubt, very depressing... I remember watching him all the time. Too bad it ended up like this.
yea dude, i watch his vods a lot. I dont use twitch i prefer vods on youtube. Im actually so sad to find out what he did because he means a lot to me since he's the only one i follow on insta, and im not a social media guy i prefer to only follow people i know personally.
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damn i used to watch him alot on Rajj show and found him entertaining, this is sad as fuck
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This video just reminded me of why I watch you. You can be empathetic with somebody who has done horrible things. And whenever the internet is ready to just pile on someone already suffering, you're the one that steps back and sees humanity in the situation.
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I felt bad for him up and until it was mentioned he got a 100k$ lifeline to literally fix his life and decided to gamble it anyway.
“If you lend money to someone expect them to forget” quote I’ve learned from many old people
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I've had a similar thing happen with a friend and it turned out that he had scammed plenty of others saying he needed to pay some overdue bills and will pay it back within a few days. He even fled the country after the scam (probably because of death threats and such). It's surprising to me that gambling addicts are willing to give up their friends, family and livelihood for scams like this, but sadly that seems to be the case.
Living with and caring for someone who has a gambling addiction, It's unfathomably difficult to get them to see how their actions hurt not only themselves, but those around them. All logic goes out the window and they don't care who they have to push out of the way in order to get that next "fix". I feel bad for this man, he had to go to extreme lengths by conjuring up a string of lies to exploit those who truly care for his well-being just to fuel his addiction. It's sad and hopefully he's held accountable.
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I think the most awful thing we've learned from this video is the fact that Charlie has Windows 11.
The fact he knows they're too young to ask but he asks anyway says alot about him
Indeed. Tired of the "boo hoo he has a gambling addiction" comments. Nah, sod him. He's not the victim here and is fully responsible for his own actions. He lied and stole.
If he's truly sorry he works every waking moment and eats nothing but rice and beans until the entire debt is paid off.
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@@drunkenhobo5039 I don't think many people are really saying "boo hoo he's a gambling addict". People aren't saying what he did is excusable or that he's a victim because of his addiction. People are just saying this is an example of why gambling addiction is so terrible.
That’s what being a addicted means…
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He deserves all the backlash for all the damage he's done but he deserves real help too
You have to want help. The difference between wanting and needing is galactic in scale. He says "I need help" which is the difference in mindset.
Gotta hate it when life doesn’t let you drop a quicksave before hitting the blackjack tables.
It is bad. I dont talk to one of my siblings anymore because of that shit. Having your trust broken once is one too many.
My mother has struggled with gambling for my entire life and it absolutely destroys relationships. seeing situations like this makes me super uncomfortable
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