Man hearing that somebody my age is already retiring to experience what life has to offer really bummed me tf out knowing I have realistically another 50 years of “the grind” ahead of me
I hear you man it's crazy to think you can make TH-cam videos for 8 years, and then you can be retired, live, and do whatever you want. Unless you're a couple years from retiring, then we Most likely will not get social security when the time comes. It seems most of us will work into the geriatric age. Tifu had a great job, and working 6 hours a day drained this man out in 8 years, boohoo. Forced to dk shit you don't want to do, hmmm, that's most of every regular job, and guess what we have to do it we have no choice
You hit the nail on the head with getting pigeon holed part, I think slowly expanding the depth of content is key, you lose some subs, you gain some subs, but in the end the people that want to be there for you will stick around, and you weed out the fair weather fans.
Seriously. People are still actively trying to look for things to cancel him for. Someone just tried to claim him moving to Japan is racist fetishism. Gotta be exhausting having people constantly looking for the worst way to interpret everything you do.
Really appreciate the discussion on this. I remember starting a channel and everyone's like "THATS NOT A JOB" and now yeah, every kid wants to be a content creator. I really feel for streamers, youtube vids can be evergreen but streaming is insanely full time. Gotta do what makes you happiest or you'll just burn out ey.
"Why are online content creators quitting at such a young age?" The simple answer is that they can afford to. They have made much more money than an average 9-to-5 worker will have made by their young age and thus, they basically have the freedom to retire - or "quit" - early.
It's a weird topic. You're entirely right but so is Charlie. Many youtubers that hit that milestone do really owe it to their audience; an audience that, of course, they can't relate to in a personal level. These communities are not real communities with said youtuber because many times they're faceless and careless of each other out of online posting unlike a real world community that checks on each other. Many youtubers get directly paid even by their supporters in a way that no other career does. These youtubers in the end do really just mature out of their starting point; many of them, as Charlie pointed out, began young and had to trascend into adulthood and no longer want to make content that they began making towards people that were in their teen/young adult ages. If we all could do that, we would. In the end, what he points out sums it up. "It's all about luck". They hit the jackpot.
@@Proxuius A 9-5 is far more stable and consistent than streaming/creating content, all you have to worry about is doing your job, which is a pretty straight forward thing most of the time, streaming is a bit more creative, which can be fun, but also extremely stressful when you don't know what to do, and there are so many examples of failure on the same website, you don't want to end up like them.
I remember when Texan in Tokyo closed down her channel, with her husband; because they had chosen to have a child and wanted to just live their life and not raise their child in front of an audience, when the child could not give consent to be onscreen. It was so respectful and deeply thought out, and I cried. I had watched them for years, and it was beautiful seeing them leave for such a positive reason. I'm glad that others have made the decision to not live in a spotlight forever. It's such an extreme lifestyle, especially for people that started when they were kids and grew up to be celebrities. It's kind of like TV child stars but more intrusive. It is good to have them decide to examine other parts of their life.
Having a child is a usually a huge opportunity for getting massive views, especially for the “family” vloggers type . Knowing that alone makes me respect them even though i didn’t know them before 🫡
this is something that seems “taboo” to talk about, and appreciate you for doing it. keep it new and exciting, because no matter what you do for work if you feel forced, you won’t enjoy it.
I personally think another reason for burnout is the fact that since its not like a regular job , you don't ever really feel like your done work for the day. You record, edit, stream and when your not doing those you constantly plotting the next video in your head or on social media building your presence. Its just a job that doesn't have an end time.
It's a lot easier to step away when you're already successful and rich. Not in a cynical way, but for a lot of people they just want to be their own bosses and online creation allows us to do that. All I ever wanted was to have a stake in my job, when I try or succeed I get a cut of that. I don't get that in my 9/5 job. Charlie touches on these points which I appreciate. Money runs the world, it's hard to avoid that.
All I want is a job i don't loathe that pays enough for me to afford my own bills and a vehicle and eventually my own home. That is a a far-fetched dream for normal people. So all this shit about youtubers makes me think they're just entitled because of their success. My goal in life is to be a successful fantasy author, but even that, i'll feel successful just making enough off it to get by in life. Like man, I can't imagine just quitting a job just because i'm tired of it and want to step away (literally like 99% of the work force fits that description, bruh.)
I do sympathise in a way because, experiencing burnout ain't fun, but I sympathise more with countless other ordinary workers trying to put food on the table of their loved ones, and with no option to take a break...
Exactly this. I can't say I wouldn't do the same if I was in the shoes of a huge TH-camr, but it really is a luxury issue since they basically lost all motivation having earned enough money to sustain themselves for the forseeable future.
right. people work 40 hours a week behind a computer making 30k a year. It's mostly people realizing fame isn't that great and they've got a nest egg big enough to leave and live their lives.
I am actually surprised that you are able to stream daily and create videos everyday, and those videos seem like they take their sweet time to prepare when it comes to research. Mad respect Charlie
@@ratgirlfloraof course he has employees. Still needs to sit in front of the camera himself, still has to pick topics that he wants to focus on, still needs to put his own insight into the videos. He also still owns an esport org. Even if he's not involved in the day to day business, there's going to be meetings and shit like that. Same with that wrestling league. I'd be surprised if people like Charlie or Ludwig weren't clocking 12 hour work days on the regular
I think the social aspect of it would make it feel like such a grind to me. Most jobs require you to interact with other people face-to-face on a daily, or at least weekly basis. Online content creation can (doesn't have to) be done on your own. Just sitting in your home office with your pc all week working alone isn't for most people I think.
As an introvert, yes I can go for very long stretches of time and be quite content in my own little bubble of no human interaction, but I also realize that interacting with humans is kinda like updating the operating system of your phone or computer. It’s gotta be done or stuff quits working right. Might not be fun. But it needs to happen.
I hope tfue decides to be in more his brother jacks videos on joogsquad. Would be very awesome to see the brothers pulling pranks together. I guess we shall see. Hopefully if anything, they spend more time together and share a good brotherly bond together.
As a construction worker who spends everyday all day outside in the pissing rain, baking sun, snow and ice, doing back breaking work, I appreciate you understanding and acknowledging that it is harder that being a youtuber. My ex would complain about me making 2x her pay as a cashier bc "her feet hurt too, its not fair". Some jobs are more demanding than others. I can sympathize but don't pretend like all jobs are just as painfully demanding.
Of course not . But that career path has enabled him to walk away if he chooses too . Keep in mind he spent his life inside while his brother lived his life outside having fun . He just wants to enjoy life for a while . If you had that opportunity I would encourage you to do it aswell !
I can imagine that having such an online presence can really take a toll on someone and their mental health, good for anyone taking a break, or even leaving. Whatever makes them happiest.
@@cat-le1hf yeah, retiring at 30, what a nightmare! get a fucking grip, these people dont work any harder than the average 9-5 worker does, they just make enough money to have the option to quit their job
I'm just Happy for Pewds that he's happy and content where he's at, and also still shares his life with us with Vlogs. Sure we miss him playing games but I totally understand him being drained or "sick" of games after years of doing the same thing.
I think an overlooked factor is that those people usually have a lot of money. So you constantly have the temptation to quit. Because you can. That makes it harder to keep grinding than if you didn't have the option. Anyone who has ever worked from home knows how hard it is to work sometimes when you know you can just take a nap instead...
It sounds like their issue is non-existent then… if they can just stop having a job. I think the real issue is they’re usually people who are young or started young. They’re feeling burnout we all feel, but don’t know how to deal with it because well, they have no coworkers and their whole job is selling their own personality. It’s hard to reach out to people when people expect a certain attitude.
Im a doctor, but as a child i remember when i was asked what i wanted to be id say cartoonist. Over the time, as i grew older that dream became apparently almost impossible as i live in a third world country and it turned into being an animator and then an architect. I still feared going towards something artistic so i endednup following my friends into med school. That said, there are a few times ive tried to push into content creation as it's something ive wanted forever, but each time id get overwhelmed by the grind it is to do so. Its probably worse than the grind to be a doctor lol. So i really respect youtubers who consistently upload content, its no easy feat at all and i can see why people just decide to leave.
I don't know if harder is the word, we kind of adapt to the grind that we got (chosen or otherwise). Lots of manual labor workers say stuff like "I can't handle studying for a day, let alone almost a decade" but as an engineer pursuing a Master's degree, I know I'd crumble doing just a day's work (if even that) in their shoes. This is not to say that overwork or overstress isn't a thing, just that we see our own grind as more tolerable bc we've adapted to it, however there is still a limit to that tolerance.
As a Biologist I'm very happy to spend overtime with my cultures (I work with bacteria lol) but being in the public eye for even half the amount of time I spend in a lab would certainly drain me. I can't be "On" that long, you know? I think what makes content creation so difficult of an idea is that it requires you to **be** a certain way. **Have** a certain personality or proclivity towards being the center of attention for hours with NO dead air. That's more brainpower than I spent getting my certs, LMFAOO.
@@PabAngman that's sad you doing master degree in engineering, you know that engineering degree comes from MANUAL LABOR what a sad life to not recognize that
@@PabAngvery wise. We all choose our own path not necessarily because it is what we want to do but it is easier (or more suitable for us) to do so. The grind is truly different for everyone. Only in a moisty comments section will I find people who understand life so well 😂
What I’m learning is that working is truly hard for everyone and we have all come a long way. Editing this comment bc someone is gonna bring wealth into this and I don’t want that to be the big takeaway
I respect when people know that they're not as happy anymore and are fortunate enough to be able to make a change. Life is too short too force yourself to grind everyday if you're not enjoying it and are lucky enough to be in a position where you don't HAVE to
Yeah, I agree. There is a TH-camr I used to love called RyanHiga that I consider to have retired as well. It's not official, but I'm contempt with the fact he will probably never return to TH-cam. He already made his success
I've grown up watching people like pewdiepie, markiplier and jacksepticeye and i'm glad for them and where they are in their lives. They've entertained us for longer than we've realised and I think it's time for them to give themselves a break. They are humans too after all.
That’s so sweet to hear that streaming and TH-cam is what makes Charlie happy. He’s such a good guy from what we’ve seen; it’s nice to know this isn’t a prison for him.
I have watched all these creators and respect the big changes for them. I would have stopped making videos if not for my community that I have build. I feel like it's 50/50 with my subscribers and it's been fun to make fun meme content with them. People say "do whatever you want" and yes that's true, you should do what makes you happiest but also keep the audience in mind as well. I never hated my "job", sure editing sucks from time to time and is tedious but the main factor that I get rewarded from is keep doing the same shit that my community enjoys. I have never got burnt out from making the same content. I hope that Tfue, PewDiePie, and all content creators choose the best situation that makes them the most happiest
These ppl have either forgotten how miserable a real job is and will realize shortly after quitting. And it's no coincidence that money is harder to make online now and now their done.
One important thing that I don't think was quite covered here: Most people can't do this. Ever. Not for their entire lives. They can't just one day go "Welp, that's it, I'm gonna go have fun now." They will be working until they die at their desk, or at their line, or holding a broom at McDonald's, because it is outright impossible to otherwise be able to afford to live.
@@pennywisethedancingclown7761 there are so many openings. I guarantee if you looked you could find a job paying a third more than what you do now with less responsibilities by the end of the week. Rn is not the time to bitch about the job market.
Nobody wants to work forever. These guys are lucky enough that they can retire extremely early. I don't think anybody expects any of their favorite creators to keep making content for their entire lives. Content creation is a dream job, but it's a job nonetheless.
It's also a very intense grind to keep it up at such a high level for so long. Most of them loved it, there's no question about that, but I assume they feel like it's time to move on to things that give them more meaning.
Making different content is impossible, I've been making MC videos since I was 16, I recently made one video on how my channel got hacked and had to take a break, I instantly lost 20k Subscribers In just 2 months. I'm never going to have the opportunity to branch out without taking a major hit. luckily, I still enjoy my job and I'm incredibly grateful for this opportunity, I don't plan on quitting.
My assumption is that creators are feeling burnt out due to the lack of rigidity that comes with 9-5 jobs. Having to stress over what content viewers will enjoy and being solely responsible for their success. There are no safety nets either as a content creator so I can understand why so many creators might get burnt out from stress.
True. I don't like my job but at least I know exactly what I'll be doing every day. I can come in with my brain turned off, I can be in a bad mood, whatever, and that doesn't change the fact that I'll do my little routine then get paid just the same as I did last week.
Not to mention most 9-5 jobs have at least a week of vacation and sick pay, your 9-5 job won't disappear the moment you have a vacation with your family. Everyone in the business world woth any common sense and data knows they need to send their employees to vacation to keep good talent and keep them sharp. Meanwhile, content creators are under pressure thst they'll lose their audience the moment they do so. It's not to say every person needs that but you're more likely someone who needs it than not.
turns out structure helps you also reduce your work: it ends at 5, that's it. Being "your own boss", you HAVE to work until you have enough revenue, no matter how long that is, and often times its longer than 8 hours from mon to fri
I think the difference between being a content creator and a 9 to 5 working person is that, When you are a successful content creator for a while you have a lot of money and you can have the freedom to say "I have enough to live for the rest of my life and i've done everything i wanted to do here so i'm going to retire soon" while when you work a regular job and not willing to build your own carrier, you are also affected by burn out but you have no choice but to keep going to survive and provide for your familly and occasionally go on vacation to disconnect etc... Both carrier path forces you to be here all the time no matter what but we can't deny that being a content creator, objectively comes with more benefits if you are succesfu than a 9 to 5 would. In a regular job you also do the same stuff over and over and over again most of the time.
If you get high paying 9-5 and making 100k$/ year then you would probably better retire off at 40 or 50 if you start at age 25, overpopulation is a big hell so create a small family but if you think it's better without family then no reason to do 100k$ / year just get 4 hours a day job with decent pay
It's the sense of burnout combined with being the boss of your own, realising that the moment you slow down, take a break or stop being entertaining enough is the moment you might lose everything is taxing on people, and this can also apply to many other jobs out there
There's no "losing everything" when you've got millions in investments that are only going to expand for the rest of your life lmao, these guys don't need to work another day in their life
You've just explained every entertainer ever. That's why you need to find your true passion and a goal to work towards that only grows with time. If that isn't you, then you become famous for something you don't really have a real passion for as a business and you get bored and trapped.
IMO, if these streamers have this problem, and they are still interested in social media content, they should just Stream other games, without caring about numbers and without caring about consistency, though they also have losed all their interest in social media althogheter/have family to take care about, were It makes sense to retire
@@BusinessSkrubEntertainers tend to value fame/engagement over money. It's a big reason why people get into the entertainment industry. Not all of course but the industry attracts those types of people. Sure they could just quit and could live comfortably on their savings for the rest of their lives, but they'll be giving up their audience.
@@BusinessSkrubexcept it’s not about the money for a lot of these bigger streamers, otherwise they would all just stop creating content. it’s about the audience, the community they’ve created that they feel obligated to not burn it to the ground simply bcs they don’t have to work anymore. that goes for entrepreneurs too, why do you think people like elon musk don’t just retire, it’s not jus about the money especially when you already have money.
I think a major element in this is the style of gamer you are. If people only watch you for high end gameplay it would become exhausting trying to keep that up in every single game you play. However if people just watch you for for personality like Jev (not saying he isn’t good) it’s a lot easier to branch out to different games and even genres because they just want to see you.
one of the reasons why i like watching charlie is because his contents revolves around things that actually makes him happy. it must be hella stressful to go out of your character and create a persona and contents around that persona just to please people.
I’m struggling to figure how anyone would find happiness in covering internet drama, acts of violence, cringe videos, and other assorted terrible things. Sorry, this doesn’t make sense. None of this should make anyone happy.
@@StainsStainsStains humor? He doesn't seem to take majority of them seriously. If he did then I'd imagine it'd be stressful but most of the time he's just talking about them with humor
It's always dangerous to turn your hobby into your work. As a hobby you do it as much as you want but you can let it go whenever you want, when you don't feel like it for the moment or so. As a job you are obligated to do it even when it doesn't feel right and that can quickly take the fun out of it.
It seems that Charlie doesn’t get tired of this because he’s genuinely just doing whatever he wants to do. There’s so many different types of videos on this channel. Feels more like he’s doing what he wants and putting a camera in front of it so others can see, rather than doing things for the camera. Bet he’d still be doing a lot of this stuff and talking about these topics with his friends even if a camera wasn’t rolling
@@MdoubleHB The rabbit hole of the "fall of mankind" goes so, so much deeper. Not saying nutrition isn't a part of it - it surely is - but by no means do we solve the problem by simply changing our diet. In fact, there is a tinge of power-hunger in your words, of wanting to dictate with brute force how things should be for others, which perhaps contains the seed of the fall.
I've wanted to be a Minecraft TH-camr since Minecraft basically came out. For years I worked 9-5s and wasn't able to pursue my passion. Fast-forward to my 30s and I'm trying to play catch up. I have issues because now I'm in the content sphere, I want to do more. More games, more topics, more everything, but I have given so much of my life to Minecraft I feel I can't escape. Even the past 3 years of me actually making content I still feel I want more. Transitioning into variety content I feel is necessary for me to pursue my life long passion of entertainment, but it is such a daunting task. As you said, I feel it is detrimental to longevity. This video helped me out a bunch ty for it.
Have you tried modded gameplay? I think a lot more people watch modded gameplays and would watch you (Including me) if you tried it Mods like these and mods in general can really enhance the gameplay and fun you can have while doing the job you've dreamed of doing • Better Minecraft • It takes a Pillage • Mowzie's Mobs
@@TheBigNoob_TBN I agree with this dude, it burns you out slower because you're essentially playing a new game while still playing the old one thus retaining the same fanbase. Also, your content looks dope I might check it up. Subscribed to ya. Cheers mate!
I think you should prioritize your mental health more then anything, because if you make content that you aren’t happy about, why would we be happy? If it feels like a chore, something I’m obligated to do or forced to do, then it probably won’t be good, just be transparent with your community, let them know how you feel, make polls to, give your community some options vote on the videos you would like me to make, here’s four different idea’s, you can pivot the type of content whenever you want, so trick yourself to thinking you are trapped or stuck
TH-camr used to be my dream job but as I grew into my late teens I realized that being a TH-camr isn’t all it’s made up to be. The constant grind to churn out new videos to keep your fanbase hooked, the hate you get for just existing on the platform, the stress of trying to make a livable income on a view based platform where the algorithm could just completely screw you over, and of course coming to the realization that you spend a huge part of your life sitting behind a screen editing videos and that realization must be heart breaking. So instead of TH-camr I’m currently in college to become a history teacher!
Lol same. I’d love to just make videos all day but it sounds like tough work. No editors, no help, just you. Sure once you become known or if have a friend to help out, it’s not ALL by yourself. But it’s still work to make sure the recording software is all functioning and the editor can get the files properly. It’s overwhelming really fast. Honestly I really should try getting back into it, even just as a hobby. But as for jobs I’m also in college but for Graphic Design! Still requires spending a lot of time in front of a computer but I do that part anyway, so might as well be paid about it.
I think pewdiepie still love making content, he just wants to do it for fun instead of having the obligations to do so. He always loved making videos for us, he is just going back to doing it for fun instead of for the sake of “the grind”
He said this a long time ago as well, it isn't new news. He took a break a long time ago,then came back to do what makes him happy. It was a whole thing, so not super recent
Pewds dont gotta prove anything anymore. He runs a couple of brands, streams for fun, and makes youtube videos whenever. His archive of videos still gets views and adsense...he doesnt need to WORK anymore.
@@CrickBritt that’s what i mean. I was just saying what he stated before bc the video seems to imply that pdp is no longer enjoy making videos which isn’t the case. He is pretty much just like charlie. Making videos bc he likes doing it. It’s just the fact that pdp now has other responsibilities (his family) and wants to focus doing other things that interest him too and not just making videos.
I think its also worth talking about the extreme guilt we have when not working, being a creator, there is no "clocking out" theres always something you COULD be doing to be farther along. It makes you feel like youre always fighting an uphill battle and find it hard to disconnect and relax
Oh cry me a river. If you really have “extreme” guilt over not constantly churning out mediocre video essays that contribute nothing to society you need to take a break from the internet.
"It doesn't nullify his feelings on it" I feel like this kind of thing doesn't get said enough. Just because you envy someone and think they have it "good" in no way means THEY aren't allowed to be unhappy and want something else.
To a vast majority they do. People in the west forget we are a minority, most of the world is starving to death or doesn't even have access to running water or toilets while losers sit here playing games or watching people play games. Complaining that you're bored because you're making money doing nothing is the most infantile thing I've ever heard. Go volunteer, do some good. Fuck sakes this world is full of entitled pussies.
It doesn't get said enough because it is a ridiculously stupid thing to say. Lol Very few people who have lived or ever will live get to find true happiness. And it is significantly harder to shake off the stress of starving to death vs the stress of having to edit videos and talk to chat. Boo hoo, millionaires are sad. Honestly, if the privilege of being supported financially and emotionally by thousands or millions of regular hard working people is not enough to make you happy...
It’s actually crazy I have been watching you since high school and I’m about to turn 29 years old. Not many people can keep others entertained for that long
Same man. I just turned 29 and I remember watching Charlie when I was in high school. There are very few TH-camrs that I can say I've kept watching for that long.
Hey man I played Town of Salem almost every day for 5 years straight. Right before I stopped I remember thinking to myself “I could see myself doing this for many more years to come” and then only *4 weeks* later I was done completely. I realized that the game made me more anxious than happy so I moved on and never looked back. My point is you never truly know when you’re going to wake up one day and realize you want change. If you ever have this change I’ll respect it completely
I love this about Charlie. Even if he doesn’t feel the way they do, he still understands why they feel that way, and does not invalidate their pain and or suffering. This is why we need more clones of him lol.
I can def relate. Im a chef i started cooking cause i love cooking for others. The idea of taking these objects of nature transforming it with your hands and then people ingesting it and what you made actually becoming a part of then and sustaining their life. Theres something incredibly satisfying about it but at the same time i have to work often 50-60 hours a week, miss every holiday and family function and now being 40 years old physically it is now taking its toll. Its all subjective doesnt matter if youre doing what you love doing the same thing over and over again will takes its toll and you will have the epiphany that you just might be waisting your life and should do other things.
I only make vids when I want to and try my best to not care about how well i'm performing, with respect to the volume i'm producing. i still hate editing and probably always will, but i love all the other parts and it's awesome to get to do whatever I want every day and just make vids of it
Don’t worry mr shanger if you ever start to fall off just focus even less on the dives and even more on zooming into any ass you can spot in the ocean you will be fine!
I think Charlie is blessed in this “burnout” department because when it comes to him we all expect and enjoy random things he does. He has TH-cam Persona status where we come here for him not necessarily always what he’s doing but we know whatever it is he’s doing or talking about is gonna be a good time or interesting. Creators who’ve built their audience off one niche for extended periods of time, people expect that, if you sub for gaming tips or a certain game they play. I’d say for creators that don’t wanna be bored start your narrative early that you play what you wanna play and enjoy and if you’re entertaining enough they won’t care what you’re doing.
Exactly, i fucking love charlie because its him you know? like, it does not matter what he does, what he streams, if im watching it its because he is in it and saying whatever topics he chooses to, i love his persona, his sense of humor. Hes such a good guy
This gave me a lot of insight on the reality of being a streamer/internet personality. As someone who works a vigorous “9 to 5” full time I always thought “man it would be so nice to work for myself”. But as a part-time freelance artist, anytime I have more than a few commissions in my queue, I get overwhelmed (probably bc I also work full time) but you gotta start somewhere. I just don’t know what my future holds.
@@nittani.Go out and muster the courage to talk to strangers. Online marketing. Whenever I go to a bar or wherever and I can mention that I’m a photographer, I show off some of my recent work and give them my business QR code and let them know if they need anyone. I joined Facebook groups and started there. Meeting new people and going to events. It’s a slow process for sure
it is crazy funny to me when streamers talk about how hard being a streamer is. sure, its not the easiest job in the world, but if its sooooo damn hard you can always just quit and go do 12-hour shifts at mcdonalds like the rest of us.
@@_holy__ghost i know streamer who would get tired of Overwatch grind on stream and left the community to try things irl... only to eventually come back because streaming is ez af money lol. Once you get your audience you get insane amount of money in comparison to regular job. I think I can understand that streaming is similar grind to usual 9-5 job. Rather than being physically exhausting it gets ultimately super boring and they probably also feel like they don't contribute to anything. You can't come to your parents and say proudly "yeah I play games all day, that's my job" lmao. If they didn't make enormous amounts of money by doing that they would be a laughing stock for vast majority of people
@@jamedawg2037 "forced to do" I'm sure Dreams and all these other people love their communities, yet burn out is common among long term content creators. Source: Dr. K @ HealthyGamerGG
@@Xbitxx Absolutely. I'd rather hate my job and be rich than hate my job and be poor. Weirdly, rich people seem to be the ones who become successful, so they get burned out easier than the average person working 2 jobs they despise to barely make ends meat
@@Xbitxx exactly like boo hoo you have to work torward your dream job 💀 ik people in college who have stayed up days on end studying and still fail like, these "influencers" have it so easy
the fact that charlie uploads and streams everyday and can do all this stuff like godslap, his esport team etc and still has time to enjoy his life to the fullest is really impressive to me, and the fact hes done content creation for over 10 years as well
wdym... he's rich as fk off streaming of course he can do everything he wants he's got money for days and all he has to do is stream and have fun with his friends essentially.... "how can someone just say they're done with content creation??" uhhh they've both got 12million + sub channels, they're both MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MILLIONAIRES, same as charlie who was a literal nobody and started a FUCKING ESPORTS ORG, asmongold a literal terminally online goblin, MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MILLIONAIRE starting an ORG, and a PC COMPANY.... when you have more money than you can reasonably spend in 3 decades... you can walk away from whatever the fuck you want... literally mind blown that he asked that.. what kind of question is that? you already know the answer and so do the rest of us, no need for a big 13 minute video making excuses for people..... theyre're all rich as fuck they can leave whenever they want and never have to think about work again....
god youtube is so stupid... it got pissy and wouldn't let me post that comment because i had posted he's "rich as F", instead of writing "he's got money for days" because writing someone is ANYTHING with the F word in close proximity triggers their REEEEEE MY FEEFEEESSSSSSS sensor and doesn't let you post it, and if you click post anyways it auto deletes or mutes you for 24 hrs it's sooo cringey, try it call me a swear with the F word involved and the word you and watch YT have a fit lol
When Charlie was speaking about losing 8k subs after 4 days is mind blowing. I’m still subbed to people I literally haven’t watched in almost a decade.
Yes I'm confused. So many people unsub just for a couple of days? I'm taking regular vacations 2-3 weeks long. So I'd be at risk of nuking my channel? Wtf
@@Fumas12Yeah TH-camrs don’t often take vacations, at least it seems like that. I’m sure lots just make enough content to fill the space when they’re on vacation but that still requires work, and uploading
This is why I respect Ludwig's decision to give himself a time limit. I believe he said he's got 5 more years in him, then he's gonna hang up the hat and live his life. If he actually will is yet to be seen of course, but I think giving yourself a goal like that is a pretty healthy mindset for a creator to have.
Ludwig been saying 5 years since he started lmao. Don’t think he’s gonna be gone any time soon. He’s definitely in the process of moving away from streaming and towards bigger projects, but I imagine he’s gonna be around for a solid minute
Then you've got creators like Jerma. He's said that streaming is the most enjoyable thing to him, and that he intends on doing it until he physically can't anymore. I believe Vinny feels similarly.
I mean he was already surpose to retire but then he extended it. He could retire in 5 years who knows pretty sure he said it was sooner then 5 years though.
@@spencersdh1 i think jerma is a good example of this, he doesn't stream daily, sometimes he does entire month breaks, he's set up his audience to know thats how he does stuff so he probably doesn't suffer from mass unsubbing like so many other streamers do, and its clear its really something he enjoys and not just he feels forced to do
That’s why I really like markiplier because he still enjoys doing videos, but has cultivated a base who will support his leaves from posting because he’s doing other projects like movies, podcasts, merch etc
That’s just so crazy to me because people work regular jobs and have to until the retirement age, sometimes beyond. I experience burnout from work on almost a weekly basis and it is not easy in any sense of the word. I know a lot of people would do just about anything to get even a chance to be a content creator.
People work until they're a decade from death because they have to, YTers and anyone self-employed who becomes successful are able to opt out of that and tbh if you have the money to do so only haters are going to complain that you aren't still slaving away like they are just because you no longer have to and they do.
@@CherrrrBearit's still interesting he did. he probably made like 50-100mil and couldve made probably that and even more in the future. many probably wouldve done so in his position
Valid, but people quickly adapt to their circumstances, and the whole feeling of burnout is subjective. Someone who works 6x12-hour shifts in a warehouse for low pay will understandably feel drained by their job and burn out, but someone who works 5x8-hour shifts in an office for a decent pay can still feel equally drained and also experience burnout. Doing anything you're not 100% happy to do, especially when you're disincentivised to take any time off, will take its toll on your mind and body. You will feel drained and burn out. 2 years ago I worked in an office for a shitty boss, daydreaming about getting my current job. I was tired, stressed and burnt out. I landed my current job, finally doing what I've dreamt of doing since I was a kid. It's really exciting and stimulating work, I have flexible hours and very generous holiday/vacation time. Still, I am burnt out, I am stressed and my mental health is suffering. There is no perfect job for everyone. No job is incapable of causing burnout for an individual. A farm worker or mill worker from 200 years ago would absolutely kill to have that 2023 6x12-hour warehouse job, but that doesn't mean the warehouse job isn't capable of causing burnout, obviously it is.
@@scottrobinson4611Exactly they have the luxury of leaving their job for a month cause their "just not feeling it" while the rest of us can only risk one day off before we're fired.
You're literally one of the very few TH-camrs I truly enjoy watching and not just because of your Charlieisms. For one, you're not putting on an act where you pretend to be a nice guy for the videos only to be a total dick outside your videos. Secondly, you do a lot more than just talk about drama and reviewing stuff. You go completely random and you make things more entertaining, like the One Chip Challenge video you and your friend did (which is my favorite, aside from the wasp video, cause that instant regret face you made kept me laughing) and the airplane simulator to name a couple. You're also a pretty chill guy. Much love
Yeah there's some TH-camrs who don't really have to worry about their brand or continually making new content. Reason being, like Charlie, they're just being themselves ... If it's an act or a gimmick, you're constantly thinking about new ways to get that next sub. It's gotta be mentally exhausting, but when you're just being yourself, that pressure is somewhat alleviated.
I quit social media and my art account around 2019. It used to be fairly popular and I knew a lot of friends. After a few years, I mostly got bots but the grind killed my love for having an art account as there was no one to appreciate it, engage with, and It didn't reach far. now i just make art for myself and work on projects for friends. I like it very much. Maybe someday I'll return when it feels like there's a place for me. I totally understand the depressing grind. It makes you numb sometimes.
It’s always better to do the things you enjoy for your own fulfillment. While an online audience is incredible to have, especially when you take pride in your work and want others to appreciate it, it can quickly turn toxic or they can go AWOL on you at any given time if you don’t produce content or work that caters to them.
Worried if this is how it'll be when I start to write books and code games professionally. I love art, but I'm worried if I commit my life to it it'll no longer be a passion and more of a thing I absolutely have to do
Doing something you love is always better than doing a daily chore. And if the only people watching you are bots, toxic stans and haters, fake friends and fans, thats a sad life there. and I fully respect your opinion and choice to leave youtube.
I went from working 10 hours a day in a kitchen to 12-14 hours a day on TH-cam. Very different work, both very fulfilling for me. Have to have a reason why you pursue your daily work to not burn out.
Charlie, over the years growing up, I've watched many TH-camrs. Anywhere from Tobuscus playing happy wheels to CrazyRussianHacker to Jacksepticeye and his arrival on the platform. You though. You have always been here and have always been the most genuine TH-camr as far as I can tell. Thanks for sticking around and teaching people right from wrong and of course world class acting skills.
@@NigerianCrusader Such an unesscessary comment. Trump supporter or not. You have worse focus than I do and I have some of the most terminal ADHD ever.
I think TH-camr still has the potential to be a dream job if you pace yourself and prioritize quality over quantity. Streaming for money always seemed like a complete nightmare to me though. If I ever make it as a content creator, I might stream for fun on occasion just to engage more directly with my fans, but I definitely don't want to have my life caught up in that ecosystem.
@@CornHhh359 Luck 100% factors into it, but with how the algorithm seems to work these days, if you make good stuff, then you'll probably make it eventually. Nobody who's consistently putting out well-made, interesting, and appealing content is going to be stuck getting 0-100 views for years.
@@Hotshot2k4that's not true. If you make content talking about how lgbt or the vaccine e has ill effects on society.. then they black ball you. I csn tell you are young and naive but the real world doesn't work that way. You may have dreams and ambitions. But you hsve bills 2 pay.
@@Synfulz. you dont know even tho we should be happy for them they can atleast do there own thing again still steadily both had there own channels so u cant say there not still succesfull
I loved my IT job for 10 years but now I really love being outside and around people. An older friend of mine told me it's a thing for some IT workers, they go more towards people as they get older and away from technology.
No, seriously, wtf? 8,000 lost because you were gone for four days?! I always thought to myself, that creators shouldn't be so harsh on themselves trying to sh*t out as much content as possible because we're following other creators. And those creators will usually keeps us feed till you come back. But holy sh*t, apparently that was never the case. People will jump ship if they don't get something from you the moment they need it.
Yeah, I've seen a number of creators lose audience for uploading or streaming content different than their usual thing in addition to their regular content. Like, they didn't even release less content -- they added an extra thing that was somewhat different from usual and people drop off. That's why so many creators have to make a separate channel because people want one super specific thing and anything outside of that feels like dropping a page from another book into the book you're reading, apparently
@@Emojibones From what I've heard, many people are often gift subbed to streamers on twitch aren't known about it. Most of the time, the gift sub is for a month -- and while crazy to think about? It /is/ possible that a good number of those dropped subs occurred when he took that break. Now clearly, this can happen at any day of the month for those who got gift subbed, but I heard it being the case. I have also heard that most people only sub when the stream is live, so there's also that info to take into account. It can be very rough depending on the platform.
I’m not sure how the pigeon holding argument is different than any other profession. You can’t decide to just switch without similar friction either coming to the other profession (are your skills relevant, do you have experience) or going back to it (are you up to date, when was your last recent experience). Companies much like audiences expect consistency, the quid pro, linear progression. The unpaid leave, loss of income is a fair point. Most jobs don’t reduce your pay if you take time off though for hourly employees they can reduce or eliminate your hours so even that argument is weak. At the end of the day all jobs are rigid.
Charlie when you finally said your reason for never leaving online content creation I felt that. I’m graduating with a degree in physical therapy this fall after 13 years of working as a tech and bookkeeper for various clinics. I worked so long to get here because it’s what I love to do. I’m very, very happy to hear you already found what you love too. There’s so many people who aren’t as fortunate as us to have found what really makes them tick so early in life.
Being a TH-camr or streamer is something I dreamed about at one point but learned that I would not thrive in. I can see how mentally exhausting and draining it can be. It's not easy to break out, and I would become obsessed with the analytics to the point of making myself insane. Charlie I feel you have a good formula down. You do your videos, no frills, just chatting to the camera and being yourself. I really think that's the only way to last long term in the streaming and content creation career.
I have never been interested of being famous in any way at all. There are so many risks to my mental health as well as my life in general, so no thanks!
Leon you shouldn't be pressured if this is your "dream" just kept on focus on your main job and do Yt as side hobby, we never know which one is a gold mine. For @@adamski6139you can actually be a faceless entertainer with a stage name. Easy in, easy out. There's plenty of big performer who did just that and some quit out of nowhere with no issue.
@@kingtnaughty189 maybe just a generational phase, we hope. Back then young kids wanna be a Hollywood star or Starting a brittle group of music band (that caused many concern) now that is a rare thing to hear nowadays huh? That's how time has changed
Thing with Pewdiepie has a special thing...I mean I remember watching him play Amnesia and old indie horror-like games after school, while eating. He's made my childhood so much more fun Him saying he's gonna live his life and dedicate his life to his family makes me so happy. Almost like (after growing up) I wanted to hear that from him, he earned it. I can't feel nothing but gratitude and appreciation for everything he has made me feel. And I'm not even a native english speaker, I'm from south america, yet during those times I felt like he was a close friend
Think he helped me with English a bit. Him and community that was always making subtitles, I was more and more confident in consuming content in English and with time I was able to watch my favourite films. Still have to do hella work in grammar department and read more tho But am very grateful, and I'm so glad he was #1 popular youtube person with his message despite how this platform didn't showed him love
@@simpleman7203 Totally!! While most of my friends were watching more of Rubius, or MaritoBaracus, Alfredito and the like (I watched them too), I watched PewDiePie, Markiplier and so and my English was developed so well! Like you, I still have to learn a lot more about the writing and grammar, but it was a huge improvement!
All off the back of poor followers, hence why they use sob stories to retire 😂 I’ve been in TH-cam since 2005 and content was better before all these creators “made it a job” and it was more fun just seeing real life people recording things
@@hakasonma8588 the poor followers that want them to be happy you mean? The followers that are supporting them to do bigger and better things? You forget these "soulless content creators" have pulled more people from the edge than any other famous person of all time. When i was a depressed teen having a parasocial relationship with markipliar was one of the only things i had to look forward too. Ive grown out of it but you need to show respect where respect is due. Ask any one of his(this goes for pewds jack and everyone else) followers how they feel about being "used" and they would tell you that the amount of joy and happiness brought to them by these creators is more of a debt than they could ever pay off. Felix has been on top for over a decade. Man deserves to live the rest of his life doing whatever he wants.
@@hakasonma8588 Agreed 100% There was a time when not everyone and their grandmother were trying to get paid, and that time was in many ways far better. Unfortunately, there is a lot of crap that comes with being motivated by money. For example, being disingenuous. And no, I'm not saying people can't be disingenuous for other reasons - or that all professional youtubers can't keep it real. I'm saying that money is a BIG motivator for being disingenuous. For manipulating your audience. For making choices that you wouldn't make if you weren't looking to grab that dollar. That. Is. All. I fucking LOVED old TH-cam when shit wasn't monetized to hell and back. Remember 'Let's Plays'? They were great. I honestly learned far more about games back then than I do now. Because now, everything revolves around the newest fad. Because it's not about what the broadcaster is passionate about. It's about GRABBING THOSE EYEBALLS. Also, I'm glad pewdiepie is leaving the internet. I hope he doesn't come back.
@@hakasonma8588 So they weren't paying for the fun they had already had? They were paying for him to be their forever slave? I doubt any of his fans think that. I've given little $ to few people but I don't regret it. They gave me content I gave them $ and I'm a lot more poor then you I would bet $100. Yes it's sad content is a job but the quality has gone way up sorry that you can't make it maybe get a better mic or a green screen? Make a script maybe? People putting in work these days.
creators, especially younger ones often get roped into content they never deeply and honestly passionate about to begin with, but suddenly went viral way too quickly over something and didnt have time to experiment first with what actually makes them happy. way too often the happiness temporarily comes from all the subs and attention from going viral even if its content they dont truly care about & the attention keeps them falsely happy and floating for a little keeping the brain satisficed like a temporary drug high. but thats always going to be temporary for everybody. and some ppl never truly like making those steps of content creation to begin with and find creativity exhausting. Its simple but sometimes difficult for ppl to just be who they want to be. they feel locked but need to stop letting numbers dictate there lives. there is a point where u have enough money, and a point where numbers and subs no longer add true value to your life. it comes with wisdom understanding how to separate all these things for each and every person. ppl like charlie started with strong roots and a foundation by doing this all for himself since the begining and it shows as time goes by how much wisdom he has. he reminds me more and more of a wizard lol or a jesus (meme) when it comes to wisdom
What I realize is, these people got greedy. Sorry. It’s really hard to empathize. Burn out? Most of these people are millionaires.. they want to keep subs cause they want more money, stay relevantt vs doing it to entertain. The fact millionaires still asking for subs, donations, and the. Complain about burn out.. Sorry.. it’s really hard to sympathize.. when others work a job they hate and have no choice,. They burn out and still there.. so ya, millaionre eetire at 2t is a dream job However, people how retire early also lose purpose.. part of life is a purpose.. if u already achieved your dream what’s next> Which is why u see people from time to time do make a video.. low key these people don’t want to fade away..
In terms of earning a living, sure, but if you were doing something from a passion and you've decided to move on, losing something once filled with joy is its own consequence(it doesn't exactly threaten your livelihood, but losing something that meaningful from your life will take time to recover, if even at all).
Charlie is in a blessed enough position to be able to make the content he likes to create and we'll still watch it, but I get that you can burnout from anything, including content creation focused solely on 1 game or creating in one format for years, decades even. Hope they'll all find happiness in something again, just like they did with youtube before
I think it’s just really important as time goes on to remember the person/people behind the channels we love to watch, and that content creation may not be their full life aspirations.
@user-NameName Just because they have an easy job, it's fine to harp on them for wanting to do something else than content creation? If anything, it's admirable they choose to step away from their 'cushy' lifestyle to step out of their comfort zone. Granted, most of them have enough money to not pursue other careers and still be set for life, but why do they need to be looked down upon?
I remember hearing something about how famous director Martin Scorsese applied the philosophy of "One for them, one for me" throughout his career. Where basically for every 'crowd pleaser' movie he made, he would make a project that appealed more to him, where he could really get wild and weird with it. Could be a good approach to YT as well
This approach is pretty wise and other creatives have used it too. Matt Groening didn't want to sell the rights to his comic Life in Hell, so he made The Simpsons.
MatPat from game theory quitting and moo from the vanoss crew quitting too. Bruh it’s so sad my childhood guy are quitting but need to remember that they also growing up too 😔😩😭
I didn’t hear about pewds but when I did it put a huge smile on my face. I love him for helping me through the rough years as a teenager and past then. The man has earned a retirement and to spend the time he wants with his family. I didn’t even know he had a baby. I’m so happy for them
Pewds is my childhood for sure. Haven’t watched him in a long while because eventually I outgrew his content I suppose, but I would occasionally check in to see how he’s doing because a part of me is still a Bro. I was so surprised to find out him and his wife are having a baby. Shocked I missed something that big actually but hey, I’m happy for them. I always thought they were a cute couple and it’s so nice to know after all these years they’re still together and living their life now after providing 12 year old me countless hours of entertainment. It’s honestly really wholesome for me- haha I know he’s not reading this or anything but I have to say thanks Felix 💜
After spending years sitting in front of monitor for 12+ hours a day and being happy with that chapter in my life, one night I walked outside and looked up at the moon and thought "I miss reality" I want to unlock everything in reality instead of in a game in front of thousands. & cod took a turn for the worst so Im still happy with my decision of walking away
I've been watching youtube since 2005 when it started, thats 18 years, I've had many, many favorite youtubers come and go over those years, it happens, it's life, people move on. Just like any TV show that gets cancelled after so many seasons. Its a good thing.
I agree it's a good thing. They leave and make space for someone else who is passionate about the subject to take up the mantle. Lots of salty people in the comments acting like these people should stay miserable because the "audience made them money in an easy job". Even something you love doing can quickly become something you loathe when it is an obligation. And doing it with millions analyzing every move and waiting to pounce and and drag you the first chance they get cannot be fun imo. I personally do not understand wanting any job where I would always have to be "on" for 6 - 8 hrs a day. But I also don't know what it's like to have millions lol
Yeah I believe you when you say you could do this for a long time still. I think it's because of how you make your content, you're just being yourself sharing with the world things you find interesting. As opposed to so many youtubers that are loud and in your face and clearly playing a character for an act rather than just putting stuff out there they want to make because they enjoy it. You've got a great life philosophy man!
This video is driving me crazy bro. Not because anything here is wrong or bad but because while these TH-camrs are able to quit and move on, I graduated in the computer science and have been looking for a job to finally start my career for almost 2 years and still can’t find anything and my current piece of shit customer service job is mentally draining me😭😭😭
I've been digging for a comment to satisfy my inner concerns about this, or at least situations similar to this (stuck in a job for a long period of time, unable to retire, stuck in the grind, etc.) and your comment made me realize something. These content creators get to retire at an incredibly young age, and we see this and compare it to our lives to such an extent that we make ourselves feel worthless. We make ourselves feel like the effort we've dumped into ourselves and the dreams we hold dear are worth nothing because that guy over there gets to retire already and live life to the fullest. While it's true we might not be as lucky as those few, I think I've realized that we need to let ourselves experience life too. So many people get stuck in jobs they hate, all week long and every week. We need to strive beyond that, we need to take the risks necessary to really see life and experience the dreams we want to. It's terrifying, but if we don't then our precious lives will pass us by and the only thing we'll have to show for it is memories of misery, anxiety, boredom or a plethora of other negatives that none of us deserve. We don't deserve to spend the time we have in this world suffering, and even though we feel that our lives are held together on thin ice, needing money to get by and a job that supplies us, it doesn't mean there aren't choices we can make to push ourselves into something even greater. Sorry this got long, I just can't help but feel all of this. It's been gnawing at me for awhile now, I don't want my life to waste away in front of me. It's really scary, to think of a future like that. But the fear of never having lived and experienced the possibilities that are out there vastly overpowers the fear of not having stability in my eyes. I wish there was an obvious path but at the end of the day we all have to walk our own separate ways and each of us need to make decisions for ourselves, alone. If you read this, thank you, I genuinely hope you find your way into a walk of life where you can reflect back and say you are doing exactly what you'd like to be doing, exactly where you are doing it. Peace man.
@@OnslaughtOfBears I feel you, man. (And don’t worry, I read the whole thing ;)) In my situation, I’m in that anxious part of my life where I’m trying to get my foot in the door of my career. I graduated with a master’s degree in computer science in December 2022, but the job market is really bad, and I couldn’t even land an internship during my studies, meaning I just have to hope something comes along soon. I’m sure I’ll manage to get something if I apply long enough, but yeah it’s crazy frustrating having to work a REALLY shitty customer service job where I just get yelled at all day and made to feel worthless meanwhile when I’m at home I’m constantly on that application grind lol. But that’s just me spitting out my personal baggage lol. Hope things works out for the both of us.
@@OnslaughtOfBears Yeah I really feel that. I have my fair share of doubt with my own career Path. I am lucky enough to have a choice of either earning extreme amounts of Money but having to work 14 hours a day or to make myself independent, control my own work life balance but not earn much at all. It's a really hard decision that I have thought over for a while now. I think I might go for the big career for a few years, safe up a lot of money, and then use my experience and resume in the big firm to make myself independent. It's really not easy though. I am the type of guy that hates wasting only a second of time and is very paranoid about the passing of time when I am not doing what I want. So working in a Job like that is though.
Currently pursing a master's in psychology and I fear for what lays beyond graduation. Luckily the job market isn't too bad but that doesn't mean I'll get lucky leading up to my desired position. Though the bright side of it all is that at least I'm enjoying my studies and nothing will stop me from pursuing what I love. Sure there's better opportunities, fuck it, maybe one of us here can be the next XQC, but that's not something that would fulfill me and my potential ability to help the community around me. Why compare ourselves to someone who already succeeded, when we're barely starting? Y'all are doing great, keep on keeping on.
I used to frame houses in the Florida heat. I know what hard work is. Having said that, a job is always going to be a job. Would I love to get paid to play video games online? Oh yeah. Would it eventually feel like work? Undoubtedly. If this guy wants to take time off from the grind, more power to him.
exactly, i work as a server, i usually work 12hr shifts multiple days a week with no break. i can totally see how easy it would be to burn out. so many eyes watching you and one little wrong move can ruin your whole career. i feel like ppl hate on the actual career way too much. i would love to do it but at the same time there’s a lot of cons that people don’t take into consideration.
It's all about giving yourself variety and setting expectations for your audience. TH-camrs like RTGame who I've followed for a long time have been very vocal about their struggle. For a long time he was a strictly TF2 creator, but after like 5+ years he decided he was done with it and took a risk in branching out. That's something I encourage anyone who is tired of X game to do because there's nothing worse than watching someone you used to love watch enjoy themselves create content they feel they are forced to.
Most notably this happen to the ModernWarefare youtuber Hutch. I think he was probably the first major person to experience burnout like this. The viewers thought he was crazy because he just disappeared off the face of the earth for something like 3 years. Turns out he just quit his stable gaming job to go wait tables instead. Hutch had some extra creative outlets when working at Machinima, but for the most part he was mostly just playing Call of Duty. He was so popular that when he came back basically all of his viewers returned which was unheard of. Then he ended up making the smart decision of diversifying his content. He was actually one of the first gamers to post videos of himself playing online chess, years before the chessboom on twitch. Up until Hutch basically the only youtubers posting chess videos were high level players with fide ratings, and analysts. No one posted casual gameplay of a 1000rated player. Then he ended up jumping over to twitch and getting really into politics. I don’t follow him anymore but he’s still streaming and he seems pretty happy.
TF2 TF2 TF2 TF2. Saw the word TF2 before anything else in the comments n freaked out, my eyes gravitated to it right away. I never watched RTgame but I watched STAR_ and Jerma a lot. both of them still stream instead of youtube but not TF2. Jermas way bigger now too somehow. I actually used to watch Cr1tikal around the same time , like 2012 type shit. cant believe I watched this channel for 11+ years
I'm only a very small content creator, been uploading for about 8 years now and found my most success with Apex legends, having videos get a lot more views when I uploaded apex, one in particular getting 600k which is massive for a channel my size, but i slowly started to hate the game and was playing it solely to make content for it but felt pressured by myself to continue playing it. Leaving apex and just playing whatever i enjoy made me get a lot less views and subs and therefore less money from youtube but its so much better, I have an actual passion to make videos and put effort into them when I'm really enjoying what I'm doing
Hearing this while doing night shift at a factory hurts but I understand. Happiness is found within, not in your job or social life or anything else. I haven't found mine yet but ah well, at least we all get to die in the end. Right?
Have a work life balance, and maximize the enjoyment out of the free time, don't ever waste time doing something u dont enjoy once your out of work because then it'll feel like an endless cycle, basically dont think of work as school, we all hated going to school
@@IIIISai some people cant some people need to work constantly just to put food on the table its not cut and dry as have a good work life balance since the world is so fked up that minimum wage is below the minimum requirement to live off a 9-5 work day
I feel being an engineer is easier than being a youtuber. We have flexible hours and handsome benefits because there is not a shit ton of quality engineers going around on the market. Putting yourself out there day in and day out, really think of producing meaningful storylines plus streaming is hard as hell. I could never do what you and so many other consistent top content creators do.
Don't sell yourself short, penguin probably feels similar, not many people enjoy their jobs in general. Some of us just do it so we have money to do the things we actually like doing.
Being an engineer is absolutely not easier lol. It’s so hard and stressful. The thing is each person is better at something than others. For you that’s engineering, it sounds like.
I think diversifying was a good strat on your part--you never feel pigeonholed because you always kinda just did whatever you wanted, and you weren't afraid to put feelers out and try new stuff. Not only that, but you cultivated an audience that has that same chill, just-along-for-the-ride attitude who just enjoys your content for what it is. There'll always be a little something for everyone--I'm not much into eSports, for example, but I like watching your commentary on goofy Internet drama or big news stories. Here's to many more wild and wacky years with the moist man 🍻
You pretty much can't exist as an online personality or "influencer" without "diversifying" anymore. And I use quotes because, let's be real, you can "diversify" without really doing anything new. Charlie is a decent example. He makes commentary videos... Streams... Occasionally does a podcast... Uploads clips of his streams... They're all basically the same thing. He basically just consumes, reacts, and talks. Now don't get me wrong, Charlie does some other stuff too like his classic dubbing of commercials, but the vast majority of the content on his channels and profiles are what I listed. And he more or less does the same thing for each of them.
Man hearing that somebody my age is already retiring to experience what life has to offer really bummed me tf out knowing I have realistically another 50 years of “the grind” ahead of me
Welcome to capitalism
@@bluespiritrecords1709 Yeah we should switch to Communism where we can all be even more poor.
I hear you man it's crazy to think you can make TH-cam videos for 8 years, and then you can be retired, live, and do whatever you want. Unless you're a couple years from retiring, then we Most likely will not get social security when the time comes. It seems most of us will work into the geriatric age. Tifu had a great job, and working 6 hours a day drained this man out in 8 years, boohoo. Forced to dk shit you don't want to do, hmmm, that's most of every regular job, and guess what we have to do it we have no choice
We should all commit sudoku since life sucks so much
@@joshX200 Ah yes, communism is when poor
You hit the nail on the head with getting pigeon holed part, I think slowly expanding the depth of content is key, you lose some subs, you gain some subs, but in the end the people that want to be there for you will stick around, and you weed out the fair weather fans.
Wow no way, never thought I’d see you commenting on Charlie’s channel. Great channel btw
STEVE! Never thought I’d see you here. Keep up the great work homie
So does that mean you're bringing in a step THREE?!
A random steve has spawned...lol.. Time to hunker down in the charlie comments section haha.
Charlie inspires me. My parents said if I get 10k followers They'd buy me a mic for recording..begging u guys, literally begging....
I'm honestly happy for Pewdiepie that he's in peace now and spending time with his family. Bro deserved it
Penguinz0 inspires me. My parents said if I get 10k followers They'd buy me a mic for recording..begging u guys, literally begging....
@@MbitaChizidon’t beg, make content people want to watch. You’ll get there i believe in you dude
fr,, seeing him happy with marzia and just overall enjoying life in japan as he expects his son makes me so proud of him as a bro :')
@@reioryupewds has a kid on the way??? 😭 my childhood
Seriously. People are still actively trying to look for things to cancel him for. Someone just tried to claim him moving to Japan is racist fetishism. Gotta be exhausting having people constantly looking for the worst way to interpret everything you do.
Really appreciate the discussion on this. I remember starting a channel and everyone's like "THATS NOT A JOB" and now yeah, every kid wants to be a content creator. I really feel for streamers, youtube vids can be evergreen but streaming is insanely full time. Gotta do what makes you happiest or you'll just burn out ey.
And now you have 1 mil subs, good job
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Eh what makes you happiest isn’t always good for a job.
Even when I was a teenager watching TH-cam videos in the late 2000s, I never saw TH-cam or Twitch as an actual career. And to this day, I still don't.
"Why are online content creators quitting at such a young age?" The simple answer is that they can afford to. They have made much more money than an average 9-to-5 worker will have made by their young age and thus, they basically have the freedom to retire - or "quit" - early.
Yup. They've made more in that decade than most other would see in multiple lifetimes.
It's a weird topic. You're entirely right but so is Charlie. Many youtubers that hit that milestone do really owe it to their audience; an audience that, of course, they can't relate to in a personal level. These communities are not real communities with said youtuber because many times they're faceless and careless of each other out of online posting unlike a real world community that checks on each other. Many youtubers get directly paid even by their supporters in a way that no other career does. These youtubers in the end do really just mature out of their starting point; many of them, as Charlie pointed out, began young and had to trascend into adulthood and no longer want to make content that they began making towards people that were in their teen/young adult ages. If we all could do that, we would. In the end, what he points out sums it up. "It's all about luck". They hit the jackpot.
@@WemplesTemple why not wanna live like that
@@Proxuius A 9-5 is far more stable and consistent than streaming/creating content, all you have to worry about is doing your job, which is a pretty straight forward thing most of the time, streaming is a bit more creative, which can be fun, but also extremely stressful when you don't know what to do, and there are so many examples of failure on the same website, you don't want to end up like them.
@@yesyes-om1po fair enough, a streamer gets more bag doe
I remember when Texan in Tokyo closed down her channel, with her husband; because they had chosen to have a child and wanted to just live their life and not raise their child in front of an audience, when the child could not give consent to be onscreen. It was so respectful and deeply thought out, and I cried. I had watched them for years, and it was beautiful seeing them leave for such a positive reason. I'm glad that others have made the decision to not live in a spotlight forever. It's such an extreme lifestyle, especially for people that started when they were kids and grew up to be celebrities. It's kind of like TV child stars but more intrusive. It is good to have them decide to examine other parts of their life.
Ahh yes Texan in Tokyo! I hardly see them mentioned nowadays but they were some of the OGs amongst j-vloggers. Miss them dearly
Meanwhile ACE Family involving their kids in promoting their nth scam
Having a child is a usually a huge opportunity for getting massive views, especially for the “family” vloggers type . Knowing that alone makes me respect them even though i didn’t know them before 🫡
This is actually really wholesome❤
You cried over a YT channel??? Wtf Lmao
As long as Charlie isn't part of the list we're golden
Penguinz0 inspires me. My parents said if I get 10k followers They'd buy me a mic for recording..begging u guys, literally begging...
@@MbitaChizilmaooooo
@@MbitaChizi
stop spamming this. Nobody will sub. It won't work.
Greg Gutfeld is golden beautiful ngl
@@MbitaChizi10k followers?
If you get trapped in other people's desires, you'll never find yours. Do what you love, and you'll be followed by others who love the same things
real.
besat coment
Yes❤
Alright Guts
this is something that seems “taboo” to talk about, and appreciate you for doing it. keep it new and exciting, because no matter what you do for work if you feel forced, you won’t enjoy it.
I do understand that, as well.
didnt think i would find you here lol
small youtubers too, I guess that's obvious tho.
He talks about topics like this every day it’s literally his channel now💀god the meat riding is bad now
you and steve here, what a glorious sight
hearing Charlie say he won't ever stop making content because it's what makes him happiest is so sweet
Dumbass it’s money. He literally just sits there and talks and cries about internet shit and gets payed millions. WHY would he do anything else?
Also it makes him money
Pewdiepie used to say the same thing
@@sterlingwbishophowever pewdiepie is starting a family. He doesn’t need to make content because he has a family to prioritize now
@@KyoMinx What if Charles start a family
Felix took a leap of faith when he was young and against all odds he's now enjoying the fruits of his labour. Nothing but respect
and he says the n word playing pubg 🤣
@@davidnotshawty who gives a shit you probably do the same thing
@@davidnotshawty yep that was funny!
@@davidnotshawty At least he knew he made a mistake and tried to play it off the best he could.
@@mbaelstromos0002 that and actually apologizing
I personally think another reason for burnout is the fact that since its not like a regular job , you don't ever really feel like your done work for the day. You record, edit, stream and when your not doing those you constantly plotting the next video in your head or on social media building your presence. Its just a job that doesn't have an end time.
It's a lot easier to step away when you're already successful and rich. Not in a cynical way, but for a lot of people they just want to be their own bosses and online creation allows us to do that. All I ever wanted was to have a stake in my job, when I try or succeed I get a cut of that. I don't get that in my 9/5 job. Charlie touches on these points which I appreciate. Money runs the world, it's hard to avoid that.
Indeed
Shut up
My goal in life is to be homeless and have no material possessions
All I want is a job i don't loathe that pays enough for me to afford my own bills and a vehicle and eventually my own home. That is a a far-fetched dream for normal people. So all this shit about youtubers makes me think they're just entitled because of their success.
My goal in life is to be a successful fantasy author, but even that, i'll feel successful just making enough off it to get by in life. Like man, I can't imagine just quitting a job just because i'm tired of it and want to step away (literally like 99% of the work force fits that description, bruh.)
@@Alino-Dude you are just salty and jealous. These TH-camrs and such know they are lucky but that doesn't mean they can't quit my man.
I do sympathise in a way because, experiencing burnout ain't fun, but I sympathise more with countless other ordinary workers trying to put food on the table of their loved ones, and with no option to take a break...
Exactly this. I can't say I wouldn't do the same if I was in the shoes of a huge TH-camr, but it really is a luxury issue since they basically lost all motivation having earned enough money to sustain themselves for the forseeable future.
@@paoloh885 It isn't a contest, ya know. Sympathizing with one doesn't detract from the other.
right. people work 40 hours a week behind a computer making 30k a year. It's mostly people realizing fame isn't that great and they've got a nest egg big enough to leave and live their lives.
There's something magical about working 5 days a week from 9-5 in fear of being homeless and in-debt ❤
Mhm
I am actually surprised that you are able to stream daily and create videos everyday, and those videos seem like they take their sweet time to prepare when it comes to research.
Mad respect Charlie
it’s almost as if he has a team 🧐🧐
@@ratgirlfloraof course he has employees. Still needs to sit in front of the camera himself, still has to pick topics that he wants to focus on, still needs to put his own insight into the videos. He also still owns an esport org. Even if he's not involved in the day to day business, there's going to be meetings and shit like that. Same with that wrestling league. I'd be surprised if people like Charlie or Ludwig weren't clocking 12 hour work days on the regular
You've seen them in his more IRL videos. Nothing wrong with it in my opinion
not that hard when you're a milionaire
@@Spigazumoney doesn’t make you less exhausted
I think the social aspect of it would make it feel like such a grind to me. Most jobs require you to interact with other people face-to-face on a daily, or at least weekly basis. Online content creation can (doesn't have to) be done on your own. Just sitting in your home office with your pc all week working alone isn't for most people I think.
nope, sign me up!
@@alexmore8527 whats stopping you? :p
Humans are social creatures. You go against it you get depressed, simple
@@dudedude-su7ptDude some people are introverts
As an introvert, yes I can go for very long stretches of time and be quite content in my own little bubble of no human interaction, but I also realize that interacting with humans is kinda like updating the operating system of your phone or computer. It’s gotta be done or stuff quits working right. Might not be fun. But it needs to happen.
Great perspective thanks for the video legend
u guys are tfue’s brother right
I remember you from your prank videos from way back when.
Ayeee what up joogs?!
I hope tfue decides to be in more his brother jacks videos on joogsquad.
Would be very awesome to see the brothers pulling pranks together. I guess we shall see.
Hopefully if anything, they spend more time together and share a good brotherly bond together.
@@josuesaucedo9103yes they is
As a construction worker who spends everyday all day outside in the pissing rain, baking sun, snow and ice, doing back breaking work, I appreciate you understanding and acknowledging that it is harder that being a youtuber. My ex would complain about me making 2x her pay as a cashier bc "her feet hurt too, its not fair". Some jobs are more demanding than others. I can sympathize but don't pretend like all jobs are just as painfully demanding.
Of course not . But that career path has enabled him to walk away if he chooses too . Keep in mind he spent his life inside while his brother lived his life outside having fun . He just wants to enjoy life for a while . If you had that opportunity I would encourage you to do it aswell !
@@regulus7181 Push 3 down the list, and you're gonna burn out real fast and suddenly not be able to afford 1 or 2.
Pain is a part of life.
If job is all you see then you don't understand.
As a chef, people complaining about working 8 hours days makes me laugh my ass off. 😅 I work in the same heat, plus imagine being in a kitchen.
@@Canadianvoicei get burnout just making myself lunch. If i try to imagine all that, my lifeforce will cease
I can imagine that having such an online presence can really take a toll on someone and their mental health, good for anyone taking a break, or even leaving. Whatever makes them happiest.
@@p-__ Good for you, I guess?
@@cat-le1hf yeah, retiring at 30, what a nightmare! get a fucking grip, these people dont work any harder than the average 9-5 worker does, they just make enough money to have the option to quit their job
@@cat-le1hfYou don't even have to try, just use your real name and get popular. The internet made it too easy to become a celebrity.
And for us normal people: whatever earns money. We don't get the luxury of "pursuing happiness."
@@p-__upload proof
I'm just Happy for Pewds that he's happy and content where he's at, and also still shares his life with us with Vlogs. Sure we miss him playing games but I totally understand him being drained or "sick" of games after years of doing the same thing.
When he played slender games was the best
@@RedjiyThornton when he played any horror game is was just so funny lol
@@Gracer2599 I think that’s the only time I ever watched him 😂 he was Mike’s ahead of everyone before TH-cam proper took off
@@Gracer2599the mad father and ao oni playthroughs were pretty fun to watch, man I miss that time frame lmao
@possibly8180 I remember the Lucious one pretty well. I thought it was so funny with his commentary
I think an overlooked factor is that those people usually have a lot of money. So you constantly have the temptation to quit. Because you can. That makes it harder to keep grinding than if you didn't have the option. Anyone who has ever worked from home knows how hard it is to work sometimes when you know you can just take a nap instead...
Yeah the money makes it viable. If Tfue relied on TH-cam to cover just his necessities it would be a different story.
It sounds like their issue is non-existent then… if they can just stop having a job. I think the real issue is they’re usually people who are young or started young. They’re feeling burnout we all feel, but don’t know how to deal with it because well, they have no coworkers and their whole job is selling their own personality. It’s hard to reach out to people when people expect a certain attitude.
Im a doctor, but as a child i remember when i was asked what i wanted to be id say cartoonist. Over the time, as i grew older that dream became apparently almost impossible as i live in a third world country and it turned into being an animator and then an architect. I still feared going towards something artistic so i endednup following my friends into med school. That said, there are a few times ive tried to push into content creation as it's something ive wanted forever, but each time id get overwhelmed by the grind it is to do so. Its probably worse than the grind to be a doctor lol. So i really respect youtubers who consistently upload content, its no easy feat at all and i can see why people just decide to leave.
I don't know if harder is the word, we kind of adapt to the grind that we got (chosen or otherwise). Lots of manual labor workers say stuff like "I can't handle studying for a day, let alone almost a decade" but as an engineer pursuing a Master's degree, I know I'd crumble doing just a day's work (if even that) in their shoes. This is not to say that overwork or overstress isn't a thing, just that we see our own grind as more tolerable bc we've adapted to it, however there is still a limit to that tolerance.
As a Biologist I'm very happy to spend overtime with my cultures (I work with bacteria lol) but being in the public eye for even half the amount of time I spend in a lab would certainly drain me. I can't be "On" that long, you know? I think what makes content creation so difficult of an idea is that it requires you to **be** a certain way. **Have** a certain personality or proclivity towards being the center of attention for hours with NO dead air.
That's more brainpower than I spent getting my certs, LMFAOO.
@@PabAngman that's sad you doing master degree in engineering, you know that engineering degree comes from MANUAL LABOR what a sad life to not recognize that
@@PabAngvery wise. We all choose our own path not necessarily because it is what we want to do but it is easier (or more suitable for us) to do so. The grind is truly different for everyone. Only in a moisty comments section will I find people who understand life so well 😂
What I’m learning is that working is truly hard for everyone and we have all come a long way.
Editing this comment bc someone is gonna bring wealth into this and I don’t want that to be the big takeaway
I respect when people know that they're not as happy anymore and are fortunate enough to be able to make a change. Life is too short too force yourself to grind everyday if you're not enjoying it and are lucky enough to be in a position where you don't HAVE to
very true
Yeah, I agree. There is a TH-camr I used to love called RyanHiga that I consider to have retired as well. It's not official, but I'm contempt with the fact he will probably never return to TH-cam. He already made his success
I quit my job today for this reason, grinding while hating it and just realizing now.
My uncle said if I get 10k followers They'd buy me a mic for recording..begging u guys, literally begging....
@@tigervalley62he retired the right way and I think a lot of people know nigahiga
This feels even more true after Matpat announced his retirement.
Also tom scott retired as well 😢
I've grown up watching people like pewdiepie, markiplier and jacksepticeye and i'm glad for them and where they are in their lives. They've entertained us for longer than we've realised and I think it's time for them to give themselves a break. They are humans too after all.
Except markiplier and jackcepticeye are scammers
@@somepersonwhodosenot ??
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@@somepersonwhodosenot🧌🧌
That’s so sweet to hear that streaming and TH-cam is what makes Charlie happy. He’s such a good guy from what we’ve seen; it’s nice to know this isn’t a prison for him.
His content is very fun to make tho I think and being himself certainly helps with making it enjoyable
when all you do is turn your camera on and talk with no editing, its pretty easy
@@hunbi1875still does better than you
@@pinkbone6114 I dont think he meant to be rude
@@pinkbone6114you don’t know either charlie or the guy you replied to but one is better than the other? preposterous.
I have watched all these creators and respect the big changes for them. I would have stopped making videos if not for my community that I have build. I feel like it's 50/50 with my subscribers and it's been fun to make fun meme content with them. People say "do whatever you want" and yes that's true, you should do what makes you happiest but also keep the audience in mind as well. I never hated my "job", sure editing sucks from time to time and is tedious but the main factor that I get rewarded from is keep doing the same shit that my community enjoys. I have never got burnt out from making the same content. I hope that Tfue, PewDiePie, and all content creators choose the best situation that makes them the most happiest
Yea facts really sad that Tfue is retiring
To be fair you could always purchase editors. People pay for convince and that would be an internal investment
These ppl have either forgotten how miserable a real job is and will realize shortly after quitting. And it's no coincidence that money is harder to make online now and now their done.
I WATCH YOU!!
@@dont-touch-mepg1392 interesting insight
One important thing that I don't think was quite covered here:
Most people can't do this. Ever. Not for their entire lives. They can't just one day go "Welp, that's it, I'm gonna go have fun now." They will be working until they die at their desk, or at their line, or holding a broom at McDonald's, because it is outright impossible to otherwise be able to afford to live.
Not really, most people just suck with money and lack self control.
@@penskepc2374way more external factors are at play, than just this being the reason
🎉😢
@@penskepc2374inflation jus worse tho, the price of living is higher than the salary average
@@pennywisethedancingclown7761 there are so many openings. I guarantee if you looked you could find a job paying a third more than what you do now with less responsibilities by the end of the week. Rn is not the time to bitch about the job market.
Nobody wants to work forever. These guys are lucky enough that they can retire extremely early. I don't think anybody expects any of their favorite creators to keep making content for their entire lives. Content creation is a dream job, but it's a job nonetheless.
Penguinz0 inspires me. My parents said if I get 10k followers They'd buy me a mic for recording..begging u guys, literally begging....,
I saw u in another video commwnts
It's also a very intense grind to keep it up at such a high level for so long. Most of them loved it, there's no question about that, but I assume they feel like it's time to move on to things that give them more meaning.
It's only a job if you're actually making noney
You'd be surprised about entitled fans
Making different content is impossible, I've been making MC videos since I was 16, I recently made one video on how my channel got hacked and had to take a break, I instantly lost 20k Subscribers In just 2 months. I'm never going to have the opportunity to branch out without taking a major hit. luckily, I still enjoy my job and I'm incredibly grateful for this opportunity, I don't plan on quitting.
Been watching u for a long time hope you do try something new im sure it will be great
Do what you love, I believe in you
Ayy it's Jeracraft
Charlie inspires me. My parents said if I get 15k followers They'd buy me a better camera for recording..begging u guys, literally begging....
Love you jera
My assumption is that creators are feeling burnt out due to the lack of rigidity that comes with 9-5 jobs. Having to stress over what content viewers will enjoy and being solely responsible for their success. There are no safety nets either as a content creator so I can understand why so many creators might get burnt out from stress.
True. I don't like my job but at least I know exactly what I'll be doing every day. I can come in with my brain turned off, I can be in a bad mood, whatever, and that doesn't change the fact that I'll do my little routine then get paid just the same as I did last week.
I do believe that your youtube handle has changed my good sir
Not to mention most 9-5 jobs have at least a week of vacation and sick pay, your 9-5 job won't disappear the moment you have a vacation with your family. Everyone in the business world woth any common sense and data knows they need to send their employees to vacation to keep good talent and keep them sharp. Meanwhile, content creators are under pressure thst they'll lose their audience the moment they do so. It's not to say every person needs that but you're more likely someone who needs it than not.
turns out structure helps you also reduce your work: it ends at 5, that's it. Being "your own boss", you HAVE to work until you have enough revenue, no matter how long that is, and often times its longer than 8 hours from mon to fri
(laughing in "right to work" states where you can be laid off overnight with no warning)
I think the difference between being a content creator and a 9 to 5 working person is that, When you are a successful content creator for a while you have a lot of money and you can have the freedom to say "I have enough to live for the rest of my life and i've done everything i wanted to do here so i'm going to retire soon" while when you work a regular job and not willing to build your own carrier, you are also affected by burn out but you have no choice but to keep going to survive and provide for your familly and occasionally go on vacation to disconnect etc... Both carrier path forces you to be here all the time no matter what but we can't deny that being a content creator, objectively comes with more benefits if you are succesfu than a 9 to 5 would. In a regular job you also do the same stuff over and over and over again most of the time.
If you get high paying 9-5 and making 100k$/ year then you would probably better retire off at 40 or 50 if you start at age 25, overpopulation is a big hell so create a small family but if you think it's better without family then no reason to do 100k$ / year just get 4 hours a day job with decent pay
It's the sense of burnout combined with being the boss of your own, realising that the moment you slow down, take a break or stop being entertaining enough is the moment you might lose everything is taxing on people, and this can also apply to many other jobs out there
There's no "losing everything" when you've got millions in investments that are only going to expand for the rest of your life lmao, these guys don't need to work another day in their life
You've just explained every entertainer ever. That's why you need to find your true passion and a goal to work towards that only grows with time. If that isn't you, then you become famous for something you don't really have a real passion for as a business and you get bored and trapped.
IMO, if these streamers have this problem, and they are still interested in social media content, they should just Stream other games, without caring about numbers and without caring about consistency, though they also have losed all their interest in social media althogheter/have family to take care about, were It makes sense to retire
@@BusinessSkrubEntertainers tend to value fame/engagement over money. It's a big reason why people get into the entertainment industry. Not all of course but the industry attracts those types of people. Sure they could just quit and could live comfortably on their savings for the rest of their lives, but they'll be giving up their audience.
@@BusinessSkrubexcept it’s not about the money for a lot of these bigger streamers, otherwise they would all just stop creating content. it’s about the audience, the community they’ve created that they feel obligated to not burn it to the ground simply bcs they don’t have to work anymore. that goes for entrepreneurs too, why do you think people like elon musk don’t just retire, it’s not jus about the money especially when you already have money.
I think a major element in this is the style of gamer you are. If people only watch you for high end gameplay it would become exhausting trying to keep that up in every single game you play. However if people just watch you for for personality like Jev (not saying he isn’t good) it’s a lot easier to branch out to different games and even genres because they just want to see you.
TRUMP IS BETTER THOUGH
one of the reasons why i like watching charlie is because his contents revolves around things that actually makes him happy. it must be hella stressful to go out of your character and create a persona and contents around that persona just to please people.
just like mutahar
I’m struggling to figure how anyone would find happiness in covering internet drama, acts of violence, cringe videos, and other assorted terrible things. Sorry, this doesn’t make sense. None of this should make anyone happy.
@@StainsStainsStains humor? He doesn't seem to take majority of them seriously. If he did then I'd imagine it'd be stressful but most of the time he's just talking about them with humor
@@StainsStainsStains This have nothing to do with being sad or happy
@@gaunterodimm5974 not taking something seriously is vastly different from “enjoying” something.
It's always dangerous to turn your hobby into your work. As a hobby you do it as much as you want but you can let it go whenever you want, when you don't feel like it for the moment or so. As a job you are obligated to do it even when it doesn't feel right and that can quickly take the fun out of it.
Charlie is the Internet Wizard, well-versed in the internet, broadening his content horizons and enjoyment potential. Thank you Internet Wizard.
Charlie is indeed an Internet Wizard
This is corny
More like internet Jesus
pretty sure wizard is a term for a middle aged virgin
@@nietzschefriend youre right and critikal is also corny asf
It seems that Charlie doesn’t get tired of this because he’s genuinely just doing whatever he wants to do. There’s so many different types of videos on this channel. Feels more like he’s doing what he wants and putting a camera in front of it so others can see, rather than doing things for the camera. Bet he’d still be doing a lot of this stuff and talking about these topics with his friends even if a camera wasn’t rolling
Good point
@@MdoubleHBimagine not being the most insufferable and annoying human being in this commentsection
@@MdoubleHB You saying that me eating hamburgers and fish is causing the end of mankind? Cause that's just an added plus
@@MdoubleHBbouta go heat up my chicken wings rn thx for reminding me
@@MdoubleHB The rabbit hole of the "fall of mankind" goes so, so much deeper. Not saying nutrition isn't a part of it - it surely is - but by no means do we solve the problem by simply changing our diet. In fact, there is a tinge of power-hunger in your words, of wanting to dictate with brute force how things should be for others, which perhaps contains the seed of the fall.
I've wanted to be a Minecraft TH-camr since Minecraft basically came out. For years I worked 9-5s and wasn't able to pursue my passion. Fast-forward to my 30s and I'm trying to play catch up. I have issues because now I'm in the content sphere, I want to do more. More games, more topics, more everything, but I have given so much of my life to Minecraft I feel I can't escape. Even the past 3 years of me actually making content I still feel I want more. Transitioning into variety content I feel is necessary for me to pursue my life long passion of entertainment, but it is such a daunting task. As you said, I feel it is detrimental to longevity. This video helped me out a bunch ty for it.
Have you tried modded gameplay? I think a lot more people watch modded gameplays and would watch you (Including me) if you tried it
Mods like these and mods in general can really enhance the gameplay and fun you can have while doing the job you've dreamed of doing
• Better Minecraft
• It takes a Pillage
• Mowzie's Mobs
@@TheBigNoob_TBN I agree with this dude, it burns you out slower because you're essentially playing a new game while still playing the old one thus retaining the same fanbase. Also, your content looks dope I might check it up. Subscribed to ya. Cheers mate!
@@TheBigNoob_TBN I did one video. I wanted to do more maybe you are right ty for the feedback
@@hiimz Happy to help, and I'm going to sub because it'll boost your ego. Anyways, I hope your channel grows to how you want it to be
I think you should prioritize your mental health more then anything, because if you make content that you aren’t happy about, why would we be happy? If it feels like a chore, something I’m obligated to do or forced to do, then it probably won’t be good, just be transparent with your community, let them know how you feel, make polls to, give your community some options vote on the videos you would like me to make, here’s four different idea’s, you can pivot the type of content whenever you want, so trick yourself to thinking you are trapped or stuck
TH-camr used to be my dream job but as I grew into my late teens I realized that being a TH-camr isn’t all it’s made up to be.
The constant grind to churn out new videos to keep your fanbase hooked, the hate you get for just existing on the platform, the stress of trying to make a livable income on a view based platform where the algorithm could just completely screw you over, and of course coming to the realization that you spend a huge part of your life sitting behind a screen editing videos and that realization must be heart breaking.
So instead of TH-camr I’m currently in college to become a history teacher!
We need more teachers man good man!
Thinking about becoming a teacher aswell. But I'm not sure of it yet. Best of luck to you!
Lol same. I’d love to just make videos all day but it sounds like tough work. No editors, no help, just you. Sure once you become known or if have a friend to help out, it’s not ALL by yourself. But it’s still work to make sure the recording software is all functioning and the editor can get the files properly. It’s overwhelming really fast. Honestly I really should try getting back into it, even just as a hobby. But as for jobs I’m also in college but for Graphic Design! Still requires spending a lot of time in front of a computer but I do that part anyway, so might as well be paid about it.
I think pewdiepie still love making content, he just wants to do it for fun instead of having the obligations to do so. He always loved making videos for us, he is just going back to doing it for fun instead of for the sake of “the grind”
that and the fact that he has a kid on the way, his priorities are shifting elsewhere
He said this a long time ago as well, it isn't new news. He took a break a long time ago,then came back to do what makes him happy. It was a whole thing, so not super recent
Pewds dont gotta prove anything anymore. He runs a couple of brands, streams for fun, and makes youtube videos whenever. His archive of videos still gets views and adsense...he doesnt need to WORK anymore.
Charlie inspires me. My parents said if I get 10k followers They'd buy me a mic for recording..begging u guys, literally begging....
@@CrickBritt that’s what i mean. I was just saying what he stated before bc the video seems to imply that pdp is no longer enjoy making videos which isn’t the case. He is pretty much just like charlie. Making videos bc he likes doing it. It’s just the fact that pdp now has other responsibilities (his family) and wants to focus doing other things that interest him too and not just making videos.
I think its also worth talking about the extreme guilt we have when not working, being a creator, there is no "clocking out" theres always something you COULD be doing to be farther along. It makes you feel like youre always fighting an uphill battle and find it hard to disconnect and relax
Good point
Oh cry me a river. If you really have “extreme” guilt over not constantly churning out mediocre video essays that contribute nothing to society you need to take a break from the internet.
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"It doesn't nullify his feelings on it"
I feel like this kind of thing doesn't get said enough. Just because you envy someone and think they have it "good" in no way means THEY aren't allowed to be unhappy and want something else.
@@perkman05 For most people, but sadly, not everyone.
Cool.
To a vast majority they do. People in the west forget we are a minority, most of the world is starving to death or doesn't even have access to running water or toilets while losers sit here playing games or watching people play games.
Complaining that you're bored because you're making money doing nothing is the most infantile thing I've ever heard. Go volunteer, do some good. Fuck sakes this world is full of entitled pussies.
@@perkman05you would think
It doesn't get said enough because it is a ridiculously stupid thing to say. Lol
Very few people who have lived or ever will live get to find true happiness.
And it is significantly harder to shake off the stress of starving to death vs the stress of having to edit videos and talk to chat.
Boo hoo, millionaires are sad.
Honestly, if the privilege of being supported financially and emotionally by thousands or millions of regular hard working people is not enough to make you happy...
Matpat...
It’s actually crazy I have been watching you since high school and I’m about to turn 29 years old. Not many people can keep others entertained for that long
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Bro same. I remember those commercials parodys. "hole in the wall, here is a can mf"😂😂😂
Same man. I just turned 29 and I remember watching Charlie when I was in high school. There are very few TH-camrs that I can say I've kept watching for that long.
Imagine still eating animal products in 2023.
Diseases and shortened life span guaranteed!
Cooked food caused and maintains the fall of mankind.
Raw vegan nutrition is the salvation of humanity!
Hey man I played Town of Salem almost every day for 5 years straight. Right before I stopped I remember thinking to myself “I could see myself doing this for many more years to come” and then only *4 weeks* later I was done completely. I realized that the game made me more anxious than happy so I moved on and never looked back.
My point is you never truly know when you’re going to wake up one day and realize you want change. If you ever have this change I’ll respect it completely
this is jester inno
How does it feel having your name stripped from you by youtube?
@@BeastnodeG yea inno and let jailor exe
@@Keyourasa All guilty, jester roulette. Innos hang next
Is the sequel worth it boiz?
I love this about Charlie. Even if he doesn’t feel the way they do, he still understands why they feel that way, and does not invalidate their pain and or suffering. This is why we need more clones of him lol.
Yeah, instead of mr beast clones we need Charlie impersonators
TRUMP IS BETTER
U MUST ACCEPT THIS FACT, TRUMP IS AWESOME! And trump loves us! 💕
@@neyva NOPE
TRUMP IS BETTER
@@NigerianCrusader help didnt he rape someone recently
I can def relate. Im a chef i started cooking cause i love cooking for others. The idea of taking these objects of nature transforming it with your hands and then people ingesting it and what you made actually becoming a part of then and sustaining their life. Theres something incredibly satisfying about it but at the same time i have to work often 50-60 hours a week, miss every holiday and family function and now being 40 years old physically it is now taking its toll. Its all subjective doesnt matter if youre doing what you love doing the same thing over and over again will takes its toll and you will have the epiphany that you just might be waisting your life and should do other things.
Work life balance is the key here. Unfortunately, many professions can't afford that
I only make vids when I want to and try my best to not care about how well i'm performing, with respect to the volume i'm producing. i still hate editing and probably always will, but i love all the other parts and it's awesome to get to do whatever I want every day and just make vids of it
if you hate having sex on Tuesdays just say that lol, racist
Don’t worry mr shanger if you ever start to fall off just focus even less on the dives and even more on zooming into any ass you can spot in the ocean you will be fine!
shanger danger, britanny carrys your channel on her ass, I mean cake, I mean back. Excuse me. Didn't know where that came from
@@lumus7 no life + money + a need for attention + bots = no money but lots of fake subs
@@lumus7yt shorts
I think Charlie is blessed in this “burnout” department because when it comes to him we all expect and enjoy random things he does. He has TH-cam Persona status where we come here for him not necessarily always what he’s doing but we know whatever it is he’s doing or talking about is gonna be a good time or interesting. Creators who’ve built their audience off one niche for extended periods of time, people expect that, if you sub for gaming tips or a certain game they play. I’d say for creators that don’t wanna be bored start your narrative early that you play what you wanna play and enjoy and if you’re entertaining enough they won’t care what you’re doing.
Charlie inspires me. My parents said if I get 10k followers They'd buy me a mic for recording..begging u guys, literally begging....
Exactly, i fucking love charlie because its him you know? like, it does not matter what he does, what he streams, if im watching it its because he is in it and saying whatever topics he chooses to, i love his persona, his sense of humor. Hes such a good guy
@@MbitaChiziif I give you 2 subscribers can i call you N word? Blackie boi
Cooked food caused and maintains the fall of mankind.
Raw vegan nutrition is the salvation of humanity.
@@MdoubleHBAnd this is why so many people hate vegans, some of you force the topic into a conversation out of nowhere.
This gave me a lot of insight on the reality of being a streamer/internet personality. As someone who works a vigorous “9 to 5” full time I always thought “man it would be so nice to work for myself”. But as a part-time freelance artist, anytime I have more than a few commissions in my queue, I get overwhelmed (probably bc I also work full time) but you gotta start somewhere. I just don’t know what my future holds.
How do you even get a commission
@OkPe-ww5rs and how does one market them selves
@@nittani.Go out and muster the courage to talk to strangers. Online marketing. Whenever I go to a bar or wherever and I can mention that I’m a photographer, I show off some of my recent work and give them my business QR code and let them know if they need anyone. I joined Facebook groups and started there. Meeting new people and going to events. It’s a slow process for sure
Vision is key, see where you want to be and head that way. I believe in you just as everyone else
@@aaronjohnson5182 Do me a favor and tell someone anyone that they are a good person and then tell them to do the same.
Tom Scott and Matpat have just entered retirement 😢
I like how charlie recognizes how privileged streamers are to be in their position. He seems like a genuinely cool guy
Yes
Least bias charlie viewer
it is crazy funny to me when streamers talk about how hard being a streamer is. sure, its not the easiest job in the world, but if its sooooo damn hard you can always just quit and go do 12-hour shifts at mcdonalds like the rest of us.
@@_holy__ghost fr lmao
@@_holy__ghost i know streamer who would get tired of Overwatch grind on stream and left the community to try things irl... only to eventually come back because streaming is ez af money lol. Once you get your audience you get insane amount of money in comparison to regular job.
I think I can understand that streaming is similar grind to usual 9-5 job. Rather than being physically exhausting it gets ultimately super boring and they probably also feel like they don't contribute to anything. You can't come to your parents and say proudly "yeah I play games all day, that's my job" lmao. If they didn't make enormous amounts of money by doing that they would be a laughing stock for vast majority of people
"Do something you love and you'll never work a day in your life" but when you're forced to do something you love everyday, it starts to become work
not if you're having fun and love your fanbase dude
Still better than working a 9-5 where you only make a fraction of what these people make
@@jamedawg2037 "forced to do"
I'm sure Dreams and all these other people love their communities, yet burn out is common among long term content creators. Source: Dr. K @ HealthyGamerGG
@@Xbitxx Absolutely. I'd rather hate my job and be rich than hate my job and be poor. Weirdly, rich people seem to be the ones who become successful, so they get burned out easier than the average person working 2 jobs they despise to barely make ends meat
@@Xbitxx exactly like boo hoo you have to work torward your dream job 💀 ik people in college who have stayed up days on end studying and still fail like, these "influencers" have it so easy
the fact that charlie uploads and streams everyday and can do all this stuff like godslap, his esport team etc and still has time to enjoy his life to the fullest is really impressive to me, and the fact hes done content creation for over 10 years as well
wdym... he's rich as fk off streaming of course he can do everything he wants he's got money for days and all he has to do is stream and have fun with his friends essentially.... "how can someone just say they're done with content creation??" uhhh they've both got 12million + sub channels, they're both MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MILLIONAIRES, same as charlie who was a literal nobody and started a FUCKING ESPORTS ORG, asmongold a literal terminally online goblin, MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MULTI MILLIONAIRE starting an ORG, and a PC COMPANY.... when you have more money than you can reasonably spend in 3 decades... you can walk away from whatever the fuck you want... literally mind blown that he asked that.. what kind of question is that? you already know the answer and so do the rest of us, no need for a big 13 minute video making excuses for people..... theyre're all rich as fuck they can leave whenever they want and never have to think about work again....
god youtube is so stupid... it got pissy and wouldn't let me post that comment because i had posted he's "rich as F", instead of writing "he's got money for days" because writing someone is ANYTHING with the F word in close proximity triggers their REEEEEE MY FEEFEEESSSSSSS sensor and doesn't let you post it, and if you click post anyways it auto deletes or mutes you for 24 hrs it's sooo cringey, try it call me a swear with the F word involved and the word you and watch YT have a fit lol
@@zeening Idk, I've said many things but I don't think they gotten taken down, maybe it's your settings or something
@@zeening rich as f
TRUMP, TRUMP IS BETTER.
When Charlie was speaking about losing 8k subs after 4 days is mind blowing. I’m still subbed to people I literally haven’t watched in almost a decade.
Maybe gearing your channels content toward the older crowd is a safer bet. I don't unsubscribe either. Young people are all over the place.
Yes I'm confused. So many people unsub just for a couple of days? I'm taking regular vacations 2-3 weeks long. So I'd be at risk of nuking my channel? Wtf
He means on Twitch where subbing costs 5$ and is a monthly payment
@@Fumas12Yeah TH-camrs don’t often take vacations, at least it seems like that. I’m sure lots just make enough content to fill the space when they’re on vacation but that still requires work, and uploading
This is why I respect Ludwig's decision to give himself a time limit. I believe he said he's got 5 more years in him, then he's gonna hang up the hat and live his life. If he actually will is yet to be seen of course, but I think giving yourself a goal like that is a pretty healthy mindset for a creator to have.
Tfue inspires me. My parents said if I get 10k followers They'd buy me a mic for recording..begging u guys, literally begging....
Ludwig been saying 5 years since he started lmao. Don’t think he’s gonna be gone any time soon. He’s definitely in the process of moving away from streaming and towards bigger projects, but I imagine he’s gonna be around for a solid minute
Then you've got creators like Jerma. He's said that streaming is the most enjoyable thing to him, and that he intends on doing it until he physically can't anymore. I believe Vinny feels similarly.
I mean he was already surpose to retire but then he extended it. He could retire in 5 years who knows pretty sure he said it was sooner then 5 years though.
@@spencersdh1 i think jerma is a good example of this, he doesn't stream daily, sometimes he does entire month breaks, he's set up his audience to know thats how he does stuff so he probably doesn't suffer from mass unsubbing like so many other streamers do, and its clear its really something he enjoys and not just he feels forced to do
That’s why I really like markiplier because he still enjoys doing videos, but has cultivated a base who will support his leaves from posting because he’s doing other projects like movies, podcasts, merch etc
Markiplier is very respectable
AND TRUMP WILL NEVER QUIT
@@spongbong0 NOT AS RESPECTABLE AS TRUMP THAT GUY WENT THROUGH HELL TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY
@@Cyb3r-vz9nhits a bot
@@voidgamer7122 im not a Robot
That’s just so crazy to me because people work regular jobs and have to until the retirement age, sometimes beyond. I experience burnout from work on almost a weekly basis and it is not easy in any sense of the word. I know a lot of people would do just about anything to get even a chance to be a content creator.
I agree. They’re lucky beyond belief. Like pewdiepie could have retired so long ago with the money he made so quick.
People work until they're a decade from death because they have to, YTers and anyone self-employed who becomes successful are able to opt out of that and tbh if you have the money to do so only haters are going to complain that you aren't still slaving away like they are just because you no longer have to and they do.
@@CherrrrBearit's still interesting he did. he probably made like 50-100mil and couldve made probably that and even more in the future. many probably wouldve done so in his position
Valid, but people quickly adapt to their circumstances, and the whole feeling of burnout is subjective.
Someone who works 6x12-hour shifts in a warehouse for low pay will understandably feel drained by their job and burn out, but someone who works 5x8-hour shifts in an office for a decent pay can still feel equally drained and also experience burnout.
Doing anything you're not 100% happy to do, especially when you're disincentivised to take any time off, will take its toll on your mind and body. You will feel drained and burn out.
2 years ago I worked in an office for a shitty boss, daydreaming about getting my current job. I was tired, stressed and burnt out.
I landed my current job, finally doing what I've dreamt of doing since I was a kid.
It's really exciting and stimulating work, I have flexible hours and very generous holiday/vacation time. Still, I am burnt out, I am stressed and my mental health is suffering.
There is no perfect job for everyone. No job is incapable of causing burnout for an individual.
A farm worker or mill worker from 200 years ago would absolutely kill to have that 2023 6x12-hour warehouse job, but that doesn't mean the warehouse job isn't capable of causing burnout, obviously it is.
@@scottrobinson4611Exactly they have the luxury of leaving their job for a month cause their "just not feeling it" while the rest of us can only risk one day off before we're fired.
Time to add matpat to that list
yep
You're literally one of the very few TH-camrs I truly enjoy watching and not just because of your Charlieisms. For one, you're not putting on an act where you pretend to be a nice guy for the videos only to be a total dick outside your videos.
Secondly, you do a lot more than just talk about drama and reviewing stuff. You go completely random and you make things more entertaining, like the One Chip Challenge video you and your friend did (which is my favorite, aside from the wasp video, cause that instant regret face you made kept me laughing) and the airplane simulator to name a couple.
You're also a pretty chill guy. Much love
Now, unless you know Charlie personally, how would you ever be sure what his real personality is?
Damn. Not reading all that
@@johnsaincyr8616 Why, it's not even that long...
@@johnsaincyr8616 it's like a 15 second read lol
Yeah there's some TH-camrs who don't really have to worry about their brand or continually making new content. Reason being, like Charlie, they're just being themselves ... If it's an act or a gimmick, you're constantly thinking about new ways to get that next sub. It's gotta be mentally exhausting, but when you're just being yourself, that pressure is somewhat alleviated.
I quit social media and my art account around 2019. It used to be fairly popular and I knew a lot of friends. After a few years, I mostly got bots but the grind killed my love for having an art account as there was no one to appreciate it, engage with, and It didn't reach far. now i just make art for myself and work on projects for friends. I like it very much. Maybe someday I'll return when it feels like there's a place for me. I totally understand the depressing grind. It makes you numb sometimes.
It’s always better to do the things you enjoy for your own fulfillment. While an online audience is incredible to have, especially when you take pride in your work and want others to appreciate it, it can quickly turn toxic or they can go AWOL on you at any given time if you don’t produce content or work that caters to them.
Drawing used to feel like an adventure. Instead of a daily Chore
Worried if this is how it'll be when I start to write books and code games professionally. I love art, but I'm worried if I commit my life to it it'll no longer be a passion and more of a thing I absolutely have to do
Doing something you love is always better than doing a daily chore. And if the only people watching you are bots, toxic stans and haters, fake friends and fans, thats a sad life there. and I fully respect your opinion and choice to leave youtube.
Imagine still eating animal products in 2023.
Diseases and shortened life span guaranteed.
I went from working 10 hours a day in a kitchen to 12-14 hours a day on TH-cam. Very different work, both very fulfilling for me.
Have to have a reason why you pursue your daily work to not burn out.
It's now matpat and Tom Scott and lots more
Charlie, over the years growing up, I've watched many TH-camrs. Anywhere from Tobuscus playing happy wheels to CrazyRussianHacker to Jacksepticeye and his arrival on the platform. You though. You have always been here and have always been the most genuine TH-camr as far as I can tell. Thanks for sticking around and teaching people right from wrong and of course world class acting skills.
I love the penguin 🌈
And trump also won’t quit president cuz he’s awesome and saving our country
@@NigerianCrusader Such an unesscessary comment. Trump supporter or not. You have worse focus than I do and I have some of the most terminal ADHD ever.
@@weldermandan tRUMP ISA AEWSOME DUDE WHY WHY DO YOU DISAGGRE
@@NigerianCrusader I didn't even say I disagree. I simply noted that it's off topic asf.
I think TH-camr still has the potential to be a dream job if you pace yourself and prioritize quality over quantity. Streaming for money always seemed like a complete nightmare to me though. If I ever make it as a content creator, I might stream for fun on occasion just to engage more directly with my fans, but I definitely don't want to have my life caught up in that ecosystem.
fax
you forget luck
@@CornHhh359 Luck 100% factors into it, but with how the algorithm seems to work these days, if you make good stuff, then you'll probably make it eventually. Nobody who's consistently putting out well-made, interesting, and appealing content is going to be stuck getting 0-100 views for years.
You will never make it
@@Hotshot2k4that's not true. If you make content talking about how lgbt or the vaccine e has ill effects on society.. then they black ball you. I csn tell you are young and naive but the real world doesn't work that way. You may have dreams and ambitions. But you hsve bills 2 pay.
It's kinda heartbreaking to see your childhood icons go away...
And then there's Smosh
Smosh has been gone for a long time, it’s only been a shadow of it’s former self.
@@jmmjjmmjjmmj bro, they got back together today lol
@@jmmjjmmjjmmjnever gonna be the same tho isit haha :( haha
@@Synfulz. you dont know even tho we should be happy for them they can atleast do there own thing again still steadily both had there own channels so u cant say there not still succesfull
who somehow m anage to be completely irrelevant these days yet still remind us of their existence every once in awhile
I loved my IT job for 10 years but now I really love being outside and around people. An older friend of mine told me it's a thing for some IT workers, they go more towards people as they get older and away from technology.
This is pretyy accurate I think it's because you spend a lot of time behind the screen and miss the connection
10:35 he sounds SO genuine here, love to hear this bro
That was a solid snap at 6:35. Mic picked it up. Really nice 8/10
No
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No, seriously, wtf? 8,000 lost because you were gone for four days?! I always thought to myself, that creators shouldn't be so harsh on themselves trying to sh*t out as much content as possible because we're following other creators. And those creators will usually keeps us feed till you come back. But holy sh*t, apparently that was never the case. People will jump ship if they don't get something from you the moment they need it.
It's the algorithm. Gotta feed it.
Yeah, I've seen a number of creators lose audience for uploading or streaming content different than their usual thing in addition to their regular content. Like, they didn't even release less content -- they added an extra thing that was somewhat different from usual and people drop off. That's why so many creators have to make a separate channel because people want one super specific thing and anything outside of that feels like dropping a page from another book into the book you're reading, apparently
Crazy that people would unfollow just for that.
@@Emojibones From what I've heard, many people are often gift subbed to streamers on twitch aren't known about it. Most of the time, the gift sub is for a month -- and while crazy to think about? It /is/ possible that a good number of those dropped subs occurred when he took that break. Now clearly, this can happen at any day of the month for those who got gift subbed, but I heard it being the case.
I have also heard that most people only sub when the stream is live, so there's also that info to take into account. It can be very rough depending on the platform.
Ong
I’m not sure how the pigeon holding argument is different than any other profession. You can’t decide to just switch without similar friction either coming to the other profession (are your skills relevant, do you have experience) or going back to it (are you up to date, when was your last recent experience). Companies much like audiences expect consistency, the quid pro, linear progression. The unpaid leave, loss of income is a fair point. Most jobs don’t reduce your pay if you take time off though for hourly employees they can reduce or eliminate your hours so even that argument is weak. At the end of the day all jobs are rigid.
Charlie when you finally said your reason for never leaving online content creation I felt that. I’m graduating with a degree in physical therapy this fall after 13 years of working as a tech and bookkeeper for various clinics. I worked so long to get here because it’s what I love to do. I’m very, very happy to hear you already found what you love too. There’s so many people who aren’t as fortunate as us to have found what really makes them tick so early in life.
Yeawebsite front end and video is fun
Being a TH-camr or streamer is something I dreamed about at one point but learned that I would not thrive in. I can see how mentally exhausting and draining it can be. It's not easy to break out, and I would become obsessed with the analytics to the point of making myself insane. Charlie I feel you have a good formula down. You do your videos, no frills, just chatting to the camera and being yourself. I really think that's the only way to last long term in the streaming and content creation career.
I have never been interested of being famous in any way at all. There are so many risks to my mental health as well as my life in general, so no thanks!
Leon you shouldn't be pressured if this is your "dream" just kept on focus on your main job and do Yt as side hobby, we never know which one is a gold mine.
For @@adamski6139you can actually be a faceless entertainer with a stage name. Easy in, easy out. There's plenty of big performer who did just that and some quit out of nowhere with no issue.
Damn that's sad if your dream job is the online bs do better
@@kingtnaughty189 maybe just a generational phase, we hope. Back then young kids wanna be a Hollywood star or Starting a brittle group of music band (that caused many concern) now that is a rare thing to hear nowadays huh? That's how time has changed
@@MaseraStevebrittle group of music band?
Huge TH-camrs are quitting but amidst all of this, Anthony and Ian finally bought back Smosh
OMG SMOSH
Yep, from Mythical. Awesome thing!
Hell yeah brother
Wooo! 🎉🎉🎉
wait whaaaat omgggg
Thing with Pewdiepie has a special thing...I mean
I remember watching him play Amnesia and old indie horror-like games after school, while eating. He's made my childhood so much more fun
Him saying he's gonna live his life and dedicate his life to his family makes me so happy. Almost like (after growing up) I wanted to hear that from him, he earned it. I can't feel nothing but gratitude and appreciation for everything he has made me feel. And I'm not even a native english speaker, I'm from south america, yet during those times I felt like he was a close friend
Think he helped me with English a bit. Him and community that was always making subtitles, I was more and more confident in consuming content in English and with time I was able to watch my favourite films. Still have to do hella work in grammar department and read more tho
But am very grateful, and I'm so glad he was #1 popular youtube person with his message despite how this platform didn't showed him love
Tablet kid
@@simpleman7203 Totally!! While most of my friends were watching more of Rubius, or MaritoBaracus, Alfredito and the like (I watched them too),
I watched PewDiePie, Markiplier and so and my English was developed so well! Like you, I still have to learn a lot more about the writing and grammar, but it was a huge improvement!
2:21 kudos to Charlie giving a shoutout to unknown TH-camrs like Pewdiepie
The videos pewdiepie has made since he moved to Japan have been some of my favorites. Can really see he’s happy in them.
Nah, not a big fan of his newer vlog content
@@_S8EN_Good for you
@@_S8EN_ thank you for your input mr mime
@@waketp420 can't handle someone with a different opinion wittle baby man? :(
@@chase5298et tu?
I’m happy for Felix. He finally have relaxing chill life. Now with a family.
All off the back of poor followers, hence why they use sob stories to retire 😂
I’ve been in TH-cam since 2005 and content was better before all these creators “made it a job” and it was more fun just seeing real life people recording things
I'm not. Racists/antisemitists don't deserve happy.
@@hakasonma8588 the poor followers that want them to be happy you mean? The followers that are supporting them to do bigger and better things? You forget these "soulless content creators" have pulled more people from the edge than any other famous person of all time. When i was a depressed teen having a parasocial relationship with markipliar was one of the only things i had to look forward too. Ive grown out of it but you need to show respect where respect is due. Ask any one of his(this goes for pewds jack and everyone else) followers how they feel about being "used" and they would tell you that the amount of joy and happiness brought to them by these creators is more of a debt than they could ever pay off. Felix has been on top for over a decade. Man deserves to live the rest of his life doing whatever he wants.
@@hakasonma8588 Agreed 100% There was a time when not everyone and their grandmother were trying to get paid, and that time was in many ways far better. Unfortunately, there is a lot of crap that comes with being motivated by money. For example, being disingenuous. And no, I'm not saying people can't be disingenuous for other reasons - or that all professional youtubers can't keep it real.
I'm saying that money is a BIG motivator for being disingenuous. For manipulating your audience. For making choices that you wouldn't make if you weren't looking to grab that dollar. That. Is. All.
I fucking LOVED old TH-cam when shit wasn't monetized to hell and back. Remember 'Let's Plays'? They were great. I honestly learned far more about games back then than I do now. Because now, everything revolves around the newest fad. Because it's not about what the broadcaster is passionate about. It's about GRABBING THOSE EYEBALLS.
Also, I'm glad pewdiepie is leaving the internet. I hope he doesn't come back.
@@hakasonma8588 So they weren't paying for the fun they had already had? They were paying for him to be their forever slave? I doubt any of his fans think that. I've given little $ to few people but I don't regret it. They gave me content I gave them $ and I'm a lot more poor then you I would bet $100. Yes it's sad content is a job but the quality has gone way up sorry that you can't make it maybe get a better mic or a green screen? Make a script maybe? People putting in work these days.
creators, especially younger ones often get roped into content they never deeply and honestly passionate about to begin with, but suddenly went viral way too quickly over something and didnt have time to experiment first with what actually makes them happy. way too often the happiness temporarily comes from all the subs and attention from going viral even if its content they dont truly care about & the attention keeps them falsely happy and floating for a little keeping the brain satisficed like a temporary drug high. but thats always going to be temporary for everybody. and some ppl never truly like making those steps of content creation to begin with and find creativity exhausting. Its simple but sometimes difficult for ppl to just be who they want to be. they feel locked but need to stop letting numbers dictate there lives. there is a point where u have enough money, and a point where numbers and subs no longer add true value to your life. it comes with wisdom understanding how to separate all these things for each and every person. ppl like charlie started with strong roots and a foundation by doing this all for himself since the begining and it shows as time goes by how much wisdom he has. he reminds me more and more of a wizard lol or a jesus (meme) when it comes to wisdom
If you’re able to financially walk away at age 25, it’s 100% still a dream job.
What I realize is, these people got greedy. Sorry. It’s really hard to empathize. Burn out? Most of these people are millionaires.. they want to keep subs cause they want more money, stay relevantt vs doing it to entertain.
The fact millionaires still asking for subs, donations, and the. Complain about burn out..
Sorry.. it’s really hard to sympathize.. when others work a job they hate and have no choice,. They burn out and still there.. so ya, millaionre eetire at 2t is a dream job
However, people how retire early also lose purpose.. part of life is a purpose.. if u already achieved your dream what’s next> Which is why u see people from time to time do make a video.. low key these people don’t want to fade away..
The problem with that is some of those folks get excessive with their money and by 30 they run out of it and have to get back into the job field.
In terms of earning a living, sure, but if you were doing something from a passion and you've decided to move on, losing something once filled with joy is its own consequence(it doesn't exactly threaten your livelihood, but losing something that meaningful from your life will take time to recover, if even at all).
@@peachcobblercake3968that is quite literally a skill issue tho
These people are able to quit which is already saying everything I need to know
Charlie seems like a big youtuber. Hope he don’t quit…
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i don’t think he will quit soon.
@@SilentEliaHe'll never quit
He makes money talking to a camera why would he?
My father doesn’t love me
Now you could add mat pat.
Charlie is in a blessed enough position to be able to make the content he likes to create and we'll still watch it, but I get that you can burnout from anything, including content creation focused solely on 1 game or creating in one format for years, decades even. Hope they'll all find happiness in something again, just like they did with youtube before
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Content creation has peaked. A small window in history where you can make a lot of money without too much effort.
@ExposedKidhow about you expose my baws in yo jaws
@@jabbadabbajew6035 looking at your channel, I don't see you getting a lot of money.
@@shinobuoshino5066I mean they aren't wrong lol
Charlie's content makes him a lotta profit w/out too much effort
I think it’s just really important as time goes on to remember the person/people behind the channels we love to watch, and that content creation may not be their full life aspirations.
They have it easier than everyone else on the planet who has to work. What a delusional comment.
@user-NameName Just because they have an easy job, it's fine to harp on them for wanting to do something else than content creation? If anything, it's admirable they choose to step away from their 'cushy' lifestyle to step out of their comfort zone. Granted, most of them have enough money to not pursue other careers and still be set for life, but why do they need to be looked down upon?
A lot of these people can only say this because they're already *millionaires*
@@p-__ou keep commenting this lmao
@@nameo769 it's a bot
I remember hearing something about how famous director Martin Scorsese applied the philosophy of "One for them, one for me" throughout his career. Where basically for every 'crowd pleaser' movie he made, he would make a project that appealed more to him, where he could really get wild and weird with it. Could be a good approach to YT as well
This approach is pretty wise and other creatives have used it too. Matt Groening didn't want to sell the rights to his comic Life in Hell, so he made The Simpsons.
MatPat from game theory quitting and moo from the vanoss crew quitting too. Bruh it’s so sad my childhood guy are quitting but need to remember that they also growing up too 😔😩😭
I didn’t hear about pewds but when I did it put a huge smile on my face. I love him for helping me through the rough years as a teenager and past then. The man has earned a retirement and to spend the time he wants with his family. I didn’t even know he had a baby. I’m so happy for them
He 'retired' quite a few months ago. He just uploads when he wants, and whatever he wants now. It truly is just back to being fun for him.
Amen bro
Pewds is my childhood for sure. Haven’t watched him in a long while because eventually I outgrew his content I suppose, but I would occasionally check in to see how he’s doing because a part of me is still a Bro. I was so surprised to find out him and his wife are having a baby. Shocked I missed something that big actually but hey, I’m happy for them. I always thought they were a cute couple and it’s so nice to know after all these years they’re still together and living their life now after providing 12 year old me countless hours of entertainment. It’s honestly really wholesome for me- haha
I know he’s not reading this or anything but I have to say thanks Felix 💜
Pewds has been on twitch every night ive been on
His baby is on the way.
After spending years sitting in front of monitor for 12+ hours a day and being happy with that chapter in my life, one night I walked outside and looked up at the moon and thought "I miss reality" I want to unlock everything in reality instead of in a game in front of thousands. & cod took a turn for the worst so Im still happy with my decision of walking away
Bros acting like he was in a gang
@@hongomybongo9684 At least he walked away from the screen for once
@@GhostyOfKyivLOL you destroyed him 😂
The power of touching grass. 💪🏼
Video games should just remain entertainment.
I've been watching youtube since 2005 when it started, thats 18 years, I've had many, many favorite youtubers come and go over those years, it happens, it's life, people move on. Just like any TV show that gets cancelled after so many seasons. Its a good thing.
I agree it's a good thing. They leave and make space for someone else who is passionate about the subject to take up the mantle.
Lots of salty people in the comments acting like these people should stay miserable because the "audience made them money in an easy job". Even something you love doing can quickly become something you loathe when it is an obligation. And doing it with millions analyzing every move and waiting to pounce and and drag you the first chance they get cannot be fun imo. I personally do not understand wanting any job where I would always have to be "on" for 6 - 8 hrs a day. But I also don't know what it's like to have millions lol
Those guys who work in coal mines breathing toxic dust know exactly how these TH-camrs feel. ✊
4 real its so fucking Dumb 😂
Yeah I believe you when you say you could do this for a long time still. I think it's because of how you make your content, you're just being yourself sharing with the world things you find interesting. As opposed to so many youtubers that are loud and in your face and clearly playing a character for an act rather than just putting stuff out there they want to make because they enjoy it. You've got a great life philosophy man!
This video is driving me crazy bro. Not because anything here is wrong or bad but because while these TH-camrs are able to quit and move on, I graduated in the computer science and have been looking for a job to finally start my career for almost 2 years and still can’t find anything and my current piece of shit customer service job is mentally draining me😭😭😭
I've been digging for a comment to satisfy my inner concerns about this, or at least situations similar to this (stuck in a job for a long period of time, unable to retire, stuck in the grind, etc.) and your comment made me realize something. These content creators get to retire at an incredibly young age, and we see this and compare it to our lives to such an extent that we make ourselves feel worthless. We make ourselves feel like the effort we've dumped into ourselves and the dreams we hold dear are worth nothing because that guy over there gets to retire already and live life to the fullest. While it's true we might not be as lucky as those few, I think I've realized that we need to let ourselves experience life too. So many people get stuck in jobs they hate, all week long and every week. We need to strive beyond that, we need to take the risks necessary to really see life and experience the dreams we want to. It's terrifying, but if we don't then our precious lives will pass us by and the only thing we'll have to show for it is memories of misery, anxiety, boredom or a plethora of other negatives that none of us deserve. We don't deserve to spend the time we have in this world suffering, and even though we feel that our lives are held together on thin ice, needing money to get by and a job that supplies us, it doesn't mean there aren't choices we can make to push ourselves into something even greater. Sorry this got long, I just can't help but feel all of this. It's been gnawing at me for awhile now, I don't want my life to waste away in front of me. It's really scary, to think of a future like that. But the fear of never having lived and experienced the possibilities that are out there vastly overpowers the fear of not having stability in my eyes. I wish there was an obvious path but at the end of the day we all have to walk our own separate ways and each of us need to make decisions for ourselves, alone. If you read this, thank you, I genuinely hope you find your way into a walk of life where you can reflect back and say you are doing exactly what you'd like to be doing, exactly where you are doing it. Peace man.
@@OnslaughtOfBears I feel you, man. (And don’t worry, I read the whole thing ;)) In my situation, I’m in that anxious part of my life where I’m trying to get my foot in the door of my career. I graduated with a master’s degree in computer science in December 2022, but the job market is really bad, and I couldn’t even land an internship during my studies, meaning I just have to hope something comes along soon. I’m sure I’ll manage to get something if I apply long enough, but yeah it’s crazy frustrating having to work a REALLY shitty customer service job where I just get yelled at all day and made to feel worthless meanwhile when I’m at home I’m constantly on that application grind lol. But that’s just me spitting out my personal baggage lol. Hope things works out for the both of us.
@@OnslaughtOfBears Yeah I really feel that. I have my fair share of doubt with my own career Path. I am lucky enough to have a choice of either earning extreme amounts of Money but having to work 14 hours a day or to make myself independent, control my own work life balance but not earn much at all.
It's a really hard decision that I have thought over for a while now. I think I might go for the big career for a few years, safe up a lot of money, and then use my experience and resume in the big firm to make myself independent.
It's really not easy though. I am the type of guy that hates wasting only a second of time and is very paranoid about the passing of time when I am not doing what I want.
So working in a Job like that is though.
Currently pursing a master's in psychology and I fear for what lays beyond graduation. Luckily the job market isn't too bad but that doesn't mean I'll get lucky leading up to my desired position. Though the bright side of it all is that at least I'm enjoying my studies and nothing will stop me from pursuing what I love. Sure there's better opportunities, fuck it, maybe one of us here can be the next XQC, but that's not something that would fulfill me and my potential ability to help the community around me. Why compare ourselves to someone who already succeeded, when we're barely starting? Y'all are doing great, keep on keeping on.
Hang in there man. A lot of us are in the same boat, including me. Build up that experience, climb the ladder, and try not to get discouraged!
I used to frame houses in the Florida heat. I know what hard work is. Having said that, a job is always going to be a job. Would I love to get paid to play video games online? Oh yeah. Would it eventually feel like work? Undoubtedly. If this guy wants to take time off from the grind, more power to him.
exactly, i work as a server, i usually work 12hr shifts multiple days a week with no break. i can totally see how easy it would be to burn out. so many eyes watching you and one little wrong move can ruin your whole career. i feel like ppl hate on the actual career way too much. i would love to do it but at the same time there’s a lot of cons that people don’t take into consideration.
If you’re making that level of money and want to be done it’s the same as retiring
it’s sad to see most of the TH-camrs i grew up with finally moving on from the platform. god bless their souls.
not tifu tho.
Yeah, it’s kinda sucks to know that.
Penguinz0 inspires me. My parents said if I get 10k followers They'd buy me a mic for recording..begging u guys, literally begging...
Some TH-camrs need to go.
@@MbitaChizino lol
@@MbitaChizi
stop spamming this. Nobody will sub. It won't work.
It's all about giving yourself variety and setting expectations for your audience. TH-camrs like RTGame who I've followed for a long time have been very vocal about their struggle. For a long time he was a strictly TF2 creator, but after like 5+ years he decided he was done with it and took a risk in branching out. That's something I encourage anyone who is tired of X game to do because there's nothing worse than watching someone you used to love watch enjoy themselves create content they feel they are forced to.
Most notably this happen to the ModernWarefare youtuber Hutch. I think he was probably the first major person to experience burnout like this. The viewers thought he was crazy because he just disappeared off the face of the earth for something like 3 years.
Turns out he just quit his stable gaming job to go wait tables instead.
Hutch had some extra creative outlets when working at Machinima, but for the most part he was mostly just playing Call of Duty.
He was so popular that when he came back basically all of his viewers returned which was unheard of. Then he ended up making the smart decision of diversifying his content. He was actually one of the first gamers to post videos of himself playing online chess, years before the chessboom on twitch. Up until Hutch basically the only youtubers posting chess videos were high level players with fide ratings, and analysts. No one posted casual gameplay of a 1000rated player.
Then he ended up jumping over to twitch and getting really into politics. I don’t follow him anymore but he’s still streaming and he seems pretty happy.
TF2 TF2 TF2 TF2. Saw the word TF2 before anything else in the comments n freaked out, my eyes gravitated to it right away. I never watched RTgame but I watched STAR_ and Jerma a lot. both of them still stream instead of youtube but not TF2. Jermas way bigger now too somehow. I actually used to watch Cr1tikal around the same time , like 2012 type shit. cant believe I watched this channel for 11+ years
That a big reason why I like watching both rt and Ludwig bc they try different things and are more true variety streamers/TH-camrs
I'm only a very small content creator, been uploading for about 8 years now and found my most success with Apex legends, having videos get a lot more views when I uploaded apex, one in particular getting 600k which is massive for a channel my size, but i slowly started to hate the game and was playing it solely to make content for it but felt pressured by myself to continue playing it. Leaving apex and just playing whatever i enjoy made me get a lot less views and subs and therefore less money from youtube but its so much better, I have an actual passion to make videos and put effort into them when I'm really enjoying what I'm doing
Hearing this while doing night shift at a factory hurts but I understand. Happiness is found within, not in your job or social life or anything else. I haven't found mine yet but ah well, at least we all get to die in the end. Right?
Have a work life balance, and maximize the enjoyment out of the free time, don't ever waste time doing something u dont enjoy once your out of work because then it'll feel like an endless cycle, basically dont think of work as school, we all hated going to school
That was the cringest shit I've ever read
Feel ya, brother. Fellow man in the manufacturing industry, and boy does it suck.👌
@@IIIISai some people cant some people need to work constantly just to put food on the table its not cut and dry as have a good work life balance since the world is so fked up that minimum wage is below the minimum requirement to live off a 9-5 work day
@@YY-ln1ol Never underestimate a man who has 8 hours a day to think about things while doing robotic tasks on autopilot.
I feel being an engineer is easier than being a youtuber. We have flexible hours and handsome benefits because there is not a shit ton of quality engineers going around on the market.
Putting yourself out there day in and day out, really think of producing meaningful storylines plus streaming is hard as hell.
I could never do what you and so many other consistent top content creators do.
Don't sell yourself short, penguin probably feels similar, not many people enjoy their jobs in general. Some of us just do it so we have money to do the things we actually like doing.
Being an engineer is absolutely not easier lol. It’s so hard and stressful. The thing is each person is better at something than others. For you that’s engineering, it sounds like.
As engineers, we have weekends, holidays and paid vacations, these TH-camrs never stop working and thinking about the next video. I would go crazy!
I think diversifying was a good strat on your part--you never feel pigeonholed because you always kinda just did whatever you wanted, and you weren't afraid to put feelers out and try new stuff. Not only that, but you cultivated an audience that has that same chill, just-along-for-the-ride attitude who just enjoys your content for what it is. There'll always be a little something for everyone--I'm not much into eSports, for example, but I like watching your commentary on goofy Internet drama or big news stories. Here's to many more wild and wacky years with the moist man 🍻
Dougdoug is also a good example of diversifying
You pretty much can't exist as an online personality or "influencer" without "diversifying" anymore. And I use quotes because, let's be real, you can "diversify" without really doing anything new. Charlie is a decent example. He makes commentary videos... Streams... Occasionally does a podcast... Uploads clips of his streams... They're all basically the same thing. He basically just consumes, reacts, and talks.
Now don't get me wrong, Charlie does some other stuff too like his classic dubbing of commercials, but the vast majority of the content on his channels and profiles are what I listed. And he more or less does the same thing for each of them.
@@navster100he really is.