Roundabouts [common motorcycle mistakes & safe procedures]
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- Examples of common motorcycle mistakes and correct procedures on roundabouts for your DVSA DAS module 2 motorcycle test, and to stay safe in general.
Passing your DAS DVSA motorcycle module 1 test & module 2 test can be a challenge, as there's so many road safety and machine control procedures to remember when learning to ride a motorbike. Take your time to practise the new skills you learn whilst on your motorcycle lessons.
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See you soon,
Leanna
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One of my pet hates is drivers not indicating correctly as I'm waiting to join a roundabout! But I have learnt that a flashing indicator just means the bulb works 😂
😂😂 Yes that's a good way to think about it! Thanks for your comment 😊
Hi Leanna, currently doing my DAS now and got my 3rd lesson tomorrow working on MOD1 exercises. Wish I had you as my instructor as you seem more forgiving haha!
None the less, really enjoying these vids to learn from and a nice reminder on some things that I miss/need to work on. Please keep them up, they help so much more than you know!!
Haha I'm not sure my students would say the same 😂 Perhaps the camera paints me as a softy 😁. Just stay focused and enjoy your training 👍😊 Thank you for your comment.
Dreadful driving by the (insert preferred expletive) volvo at 4. 55... Yes Leanna I'm sure your horn was to warn your pupil. Having just retired from training, it was things like that, that was starting to wear me down. Please keep up your relaxed controlled (outwardly) approach, it's to be applauded.
Hi Graham, yes it can be a little taxing sometimes. Keeping cool and calm isn't always an easy thing. Saturdays tend to be the worst for bad driving. People hurrying, stressed and generally angry! Not a great combination 😂 Thanks as always 😊
I have to admire your patience plus how you can focus on yourself. Very impressive 😂😂😂😂
Thanks Ed 😊
A lot of these mistakes are just a lack of road knowledge/experience, some are clearly not car drivers (I hope!). Doesn't help that in the UK we seem unable to keep painted lines in towns maintained. Also you seem like a brilliant instructor!
Haha, you might think that, but the majority of our students are experienced car, lorry or bus drivers. Combine learning a new skill (controlling the bike safely) with the old (often 10-30 years of driving without revisiting any training in the car or the highway code) and we have a job to do... But that's the whole point and it's what earns my pennies, so I'm not complaining 😊
@@motorcyclelessonsuk Earns pennies and keeps them/everyone as safe as possible too 😊
That vid was put together so good, i got so much from this vid alone, 🎉🔥🔥🔥 thanks for all the hard work and dedication for the job you do , got my test on the 16th, pass or fail your vids are a massive help 😊 keep rockin ✌️
You're welcome Craig. Hope it goes well for you 😊
I listen to your videos when I'm driving the work van dreaming of being out on the bike. Being in the virtual presence of a gifted and passionate instructor who is clearly following their calling in life is almost a meditation in itself. Your students are blessed to have you and I'm 100% sure you are saving lives with these videos, maybe even mine.
Thank you, that's very kind. I'm glad you're finding them useful, it makes the hours spent editing them worthwhile 😊 Thanks again and hopefully you can get out a bit more on your bike now the weather is markedly improved 🌞
@@motorcyclelessonsuk hey thanks :) I'm still on my CBT, can I come and do my mod 1 with you?
I live on a remote island 😀 but staying in Tadcaster 24th-28th July
@@mar01006765 ah now that's a difficult one (sorry!) as it can be tricky to get people quickly onto a big bike safely in only a couple of days. If you want more info on this, then please do call the Roadcraft shop (see roadcraftnottingham.co.uk). Thanks again for your kind comments. Much appreciated 😊
@@motorcyclelessonsuk hey no probs. My driving instructor used to give everyone a minimum of 25 lessons. She said each lesson was a piece of the jigsaw. She was in ultra high demand so defo not a money grab either. You're not a fan of the 3 day Das things then? There's a place doing those at my nearest mainland port
@@mar01006765 hello, we are firm believers that you gain more experience learning to ride over a bit more time, rather than cramming it in over a few days. We don't specify a number of hours, but we do ensure students are consistent in their machine control and procedures on a 125cc before transferring them onto a big bike. For some people this only takes 3 hours. For others it takes 10 hours. So it's very dependent on ability and progression during the lessons. Thanks again 😊
i’ve become a much more observant car driver since learning to ride a bike. refined/relearned my roundabout positioning too. another super useful video. (nice to see the roundabouts in Notts, i haven’t seen some of them in 30 odd years - going to have to get myself up for a nostalgia ride)
Hi Jason, I do believe riding a bike hones our awareness and anticipation skills. Glad to hear you're enjoying the sights of Nottingham 😂
these videos are awesome, i just recently done my CBT, and just like my instructor, you have a very calm way of teaching and bringing fun into the rides, i was unfortunately given the nickname of Casper on my CBT, as i failed to do a shoulder check one time..
Thank you, I'm glad you like them 😁
I think your videos are brilliant, nice and informative. Im going for my full test shortly.
Thank you. Enjoy your training and tests 😊
Got my mod1/2 coming up I’m really panicking about roundabouts but you’re videos are really helping me understand a little better I was really dreading the mod1 chicane as you come out the Bend but my instructor had me practicing on some cones and now I’m kind of looking forward to it but I’m sat watching most of your videos as there quite detailed and explained really well thank you for the video brilliant 😁👍
Thanks, I'm glad you're finding the channel useful. Don't worry too much about the Mod 1 avoidance. It's not as scary/difficult as you might think. Have you watched the module 1 lesson video? It has a full explanation of the avoidance 👍. Thanks again.
@@motorcyclelessonsuk I passed my mod1 thanks to the help of your channel thank you 🙏
Nice how the student is encouraged to do better rather than put down by pointing out all the mistakes, sign of a good teacher
Thank you 😊. It can be hard sometimes to correct the errors without pointing them out though 😉🤣 It's a balancing act 😊
I love how even 8 months later that pot hole is still there at the roundabout by Harley Davidsons
Hahaha! Yes, but it's actually really helpful to me because I keep saying "you should be going to the left of the pot hole". When they mend it I'll have no point of reference 😂
Yes you got me on that the other week :D @@motorcyclelessonsuk
It all seemed so much easier in 1976 🤣 To my knowledge there were no trainers or instructors back then, at least not for me. But even back then even I knew if you did anything without checking your mirrors, and more importantly doing a 'lifesaver' and signalling your intentions eg off a roundabout. You'd failed. I missed a turn on my test, and got 'lost' and still passed 👍 If you were going to pass your test 1976 was the year to do it.....the best summer on record in my lifetime 👍
Haha, lucky you ☀️🌞😎
The flip side was my Dad point blank refused to sign guarantor forms so I could buy a motorbike. So bloody heartbroken I spent six weeks down at the beach daily in as you say the most glorious summer we have ever witnessed. Gradually progressed to cars and its only lately I returned to the glorious machines that are motorcycles.
@@stevegordon3410 That's spooky....my Dad acted as guarantor to my bank loan so I could buy my Yamaha RS100 that year......(road tax and insurance was cheaper on a 100cc than a 125cc....) Which is important if you are taking home £17 for a 40 hour week 😲 🙄 🤣
great content, thanks so much!
Thank you, and you're welcome 😊
Thanks so much . I was seraching to indicate right or not for the 2nd exit if it is on the right side when I approach the roundabout . You answered at 15:16
Brilliant, glad you found the answer! Thanks for the comment 😊
Just got my CBT and find your videos very educational. In the spring I might come up there to do the rest at your location. Thanks
Thank you, I'm glad you're enjoying them 😊. Bear in mind we don't usually offer intensive courses so you would need to be able to travel regularly to make the lessons. Thanks again 😊
@@motorcyclelessonsuk that's sparked a question in my mind Leanna - do you think intensive courses have their place? Some providers do them, but I'm a bit of a believer in the need for knowledge to soak in and for the brain to work on it in the background - I'm not sure intensive courses really allow that. What is your view?
Hi leanna , l learnt a lot more again. Thank you ❤
Fab 😊 Thanks.
Morning Leanna, great video on roundabouts again,
plenty of things to think about and practice as i do not like roundabouts but id agree with Karen moves and that is a roundabout is for going around and around again and again 🤣🤣
as always stay safe and stay healthy
Kev
Thanks Kev 😊
@@motorcyclelessonsuk No problem Leanna 😇
You do all the hard work putting all this together and on here for people to see..
I just sit here and listen to every single word you say
Then I practice practice until i get at least one thing right 🤣🤣
So just keep rolling them out ill listen 🤭
In fairness to some of these learners the road paint is absolutely awful. As a non-local, last time I rode through Nottingham the RABs and lanes were madly confusing. Can you expand a bit more on the right shoulder check exiting a RAB please?
It's to get the new riders into a *habit* of checking their blind spots (karate kid wax on wax off syndrome) , especially when they have L plates, many aggressive following drivers think the L stands for "Lacking" and often gun it to overtake them. If the student is already in the left lane going straight ahead, when exiting there's no point doing a left lifesaver as no car will be undertaking them due to lack of room and any car giving way at the previous exit has already been assessed. On advanced, as you know, with correct planning this check could mainly be unnecessary.
Hi Mike, thanks for the question. Once you've decided to pass the joining traffic on the left, are aware of the potential danger of them pulling out on you, there is not much point looking back over your shoulder at them as you are passing or have passed them. If it wasn't safe to do so, you would have slowed down, stopped or changed position already. You may even have decided to cover your horn whilst being ready to react.
Looking to the right blindspot helps prevent an, as yet, unseen hazard turning into an unexpected collision as you take the exit (and/or need to merge). There is the bigger danger of someone cutting across the lanes, or into the space you want to use as you exit the roundabout. I've never had anyone come up on my left as I am exiting a roundabout. Funnily enough on my way home today without students I was about to exit the roundabout in lane 1, had to stop due to a pedestrian crossing light on red, holding back the traffic, at a point where anyone in lane 2 could have cut into the exit. A quick lifesaver to the right just after I moved off and before I exited the roundabout gave me peace of mind that I was safe to take the line I wanted to. Hope that helps 😊
Is it possible that some things we treat as roundabout aren't technically ones, they are rather just a set of (little) one way roads leading us in a circle?
At 8:30 in there is a roundabout similar to the one I ride and I was referring to in my comment on your last video. (Check out A316 near Twickenham stadium, if you like).
Your 2 left lanes are marked as going forward rather than turning off, and your pupils didn't indicate to leave.
Is it not actually part of a roundabout anymore? I am wondering if mine isn't one at this point, even if the satnav talks like it is one, telling me to take the 2nd exit.
Hello 👋, it is definitely a roundabout. On the approach there are 4 lanes, 2 go left, 2 go right. We are taking the right 'exit'. They didn't indicate to exit necessarily because those lanes don't go anywhere but in the direction we are travelling so there is no need to indicate. There is also a turning on the roundabout itself which makes indicating hazardous in case someone thinks we are taking the left turn, and then pulls out on us. I do get your point though. Sometimes it feels like we are just following lanes, not necessarily navigating a roundabout 😂
The one roundabout I really dislike is the mini roundabout but excessively raised. There is one at the bottom of our lane, there is barely space around it and the pavement. It is so tight it's a nightmare. I have to go around it at such a slow speed it's barely walking pace else I'll hit the pavement.
Hmmm, sounds tricky! Mini roundabouts coming up next....watch this space... 😊
@motorcyclelessonsuk I'd send you a photo if I could. Looking forward to the next video 👍
As that first exit on the 1st roundabout was straight ahead, does it not require a left indicator on approach?
Hello, with the layout of this particular roundabout it doesn't necessarily require an indicator on the approach as we are in the left lane and there is nowhere else to go but take that exit. There is also no joining traffic to see the indicator on our approach at that time as the next joining entrance is further around the roundabout. Therefore on this particular roundabout we indicate to exit the roundabout but on the approach we can choose whether to indicate or not. I hope that helps 😊
Hi Leanne,I failed my mod 2 on the most stupid mistake 20seconds turning into the test centre in burton my front wheel touched the angled solid white line as i was turning right,how i went that close i will never know so game over,so nervous ive got my retest very soon,just wondered if there is anymore tips i should know.bloody dreadin it
Never mind, it happens. Nerves can do the worst of things. Just keep cool and calm, and try again. 😊
@@motorcyclelessonsuk I will,fingers crossed
At 3:00 why was the learner in lane 1 and the other was in right turn 2nd lane but exit on the 1st exit?
Hi, might be hard to see on the video but it's straight ahead in either lane and it doesn't matter on this roundabout as the bus lane continues on the other side, so the lanes merge anyway. Thanks, Leanna
"When confused stay in lane" Anon.
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What motorbike do you ride?
Hi, my personal bike is an NC750X DCT. But I also ride the school bikes which range from CB125Fs, Honda Groms, Yamaha MT07s, CB650Rs and CB500F. So from day to day it varies considerably.
Have you ever had anyone accidentally go on the motorway 😮
Thankfully not. But I tend to avoid the routes which could lead to the motorway 😂
Too many unnecessary life savers imo when turning left and going straight on. As shown on this video, they serve no purpose whatsoever.
Thanks for your opinion. However, we don't stipulate any lifesavers for turning left. Straight ahead requires an awareness of vehicles that could be in the blindspot prior to exiting the roundabout. I'd assume you're not a qualified instructor nor have you supervised and trained novice students on the road. The purpose of the lifesaver is to ensure safe exit of a roundabout & lifesavers confirm this is the case. Without any consideration of them, riders would be ignorant of the potential danger, let alone the actual danger when there IS a vehicle about to cross lanes on them or use their space as they exit. Thanks again.
If the examiner don't want you passing you ain't passing... I made more mistakes the second time and passed were as the first time I had a different examiner who was a complete idiot