An Oxford High School student describes the deadly school shooting during a heart-wrenching testimony during Ethan Crumbley's Miller hearing on Friday, July 28.
Did you notice how she led him to say he was nice??? This kid didn't know him how do we know he was nice...??? Not saying he deserved to die but we always hear how innocent the people were who died...we have no idea if thes people were bullies...we don't know
@@John-x4z6zwhat the hell is wrong with you? In the last moments of this kid’s life, he sacrificed himself and did what the shooter told him to do because he likely knew that if he didn’t, they were both going to be killed right then and there. If he would have ran first, then EC would have turned the gun on the other boy. I believe that Justin had that realization and sacrificed himself. He died trying to protect someone he didn’t even really know. That tells me everything that I need to know about him.
@@John-x4z6zhe was nice during the program where seniors were showing the freshman around campus. That was the experience that he had with him. Ethan didn’t shoot up the school because of bullies. You sounds really ignorant.
@@John-x4z6z There's nothing to suggest that he did this for 'revenge' on bullies! In the mother's trial, we heard that he cut baby birds heads off and put them in a jar. Were those baby birds bullies too?
Justin's parents should be very proud of the son they raised. I can't imagine how scared he was, but he still was looking out for other's. We need more ppl like him in this world.
Stop giving credit to parents when you don’t know them. Kids are not always a reflection of the people who raised them. Good people can come from awful families. Crediting parents every time someone does something good is like when people thank god every time someone does something good. It’s annoying and unnecessary!
Justin is truly one of a kind ! He is my nieces and nephews cousins . The entire family and everyone close to Justin including myself is traumatized by this . Justin so selfless and amazing . I know he is with Jesus and is one of the lords most prized angels !
As she read them as a mom myself, when she read the text “mom?” Tears streamed down. I have envisioned this scenario and what I would do. I told my two daughters, (one a senior and one in junior high) no matter what momma is coming. I don’t care if I have to climb through a window to get to you. My kids know my character and temperament and know nothing would stop me. This is heartbreaking.
@kathy73160 thats exactly what I thought of too, and the momma that said screw you I'm going in and DID. my girls and I have talked about so many different scenarios even at home.
@@J-Bird88when the msu shooting happened- my daughter had just moved dorms. I’m so grateful- but it was horrific. Seconds were an eternity. I was so helpless- I wanted to drive there- but wouldn’t have been able to even get close. It was my worst nightmare come true.
I cant believe he shot this young man Justin in cold blood like that. He executed him. That poor kid. His poor parents. He did everything he was told to do. He even tried to help a kid younger than himself and he got shot for it. It ls unbelievably horrible and tragic.
Jennifer Crumbley said she wouldn't do anything differently. After listening to this young mans testimony.... how in God's name could she possibly say that.
Probably was instructed by her lawyer to say that too. So she didn't admit any wrong doing. Either way, she would've been convicted. Because she deserved to be held accountable.
@@John-x4z6zI am a parent and if you’ve seen Ethan’s journal entries you’d know he asked his parents for help with his mental health and they didn’t take him seriously. His mother said on the stand she wouldn’t do ANYTHING different if she could go back in time. As a parent I would want to go back and help my child who was crying out for help. His parents acted more like his friend than his parents causing their son to have no one advocating for him when he knew something was wrong in his head. Instead they buy him a gun…
I have teenage children, and whole heartedly agree. I know my children well enough to see changes that would indicate mental distress. If I see that I will immediately start placing calls to professionals, NOT buy them a firearm. Especially an unsecured one, only to not mention it to the school like his parents didn't when they were called in. I also watched her entire trial, and she lied repeatedly on the stand and her lawyer is more unhinged now than her statements after the Nassar case. I hope they convict.
@@aspt1980agree 100 percent . The parents need to take accountability. It is your job to see the difference and to get your kid mental health and who buys a gun for a kid in distress.
He pulled Justin out of the stall to shoot him? Why? Justin was a hero, he sacrificed himself, my God! Keegan survived by instinct, he has has been traumatized beyond belief. To know that the shooter interacted w/ some of these kids b4 killing them is bone chilling!
I cannot imagine receiving those texts from my child, believing they were safe at school. How brave of him to run like that cause I FULLY believe he would have been killed. What a horrible thing to happen. 😔
My daughter was at the mall during a shooting… Her dad took her birthday shopping and I was grocery shopping with my husband when she messaged that there was a shooting and said “Dads not here.” It took me a second to realize what she said and I had a nervous breakdown in the middle of Walmart. She’s 17 and was shopping at Forever 21 while her Dad ran to the adjacent food court for drinks. She hid in the dressing room with girls all strangers huddled together some of them crying. Her dad said he could smell the gun shots and ran across the mall to get to her not knowing where the shots came from. They locked him out of course so he hid behind the closest wall. Thankfully nobody was shot. Nobody was ever caught either that were aware of. But knowing how I felt getting those texts… I was not nearly as composed as those parents. I was sick to my stomach and kept randomly crying all day, even after they got out and were completely safe… It’s not something any parent should ever have to experience and I didn’t even go thru the worst of it.
I can’t imagine just getting these texts, not being with your child … Of course this was really hitting you even more after! Glad no one got shot! How horrible that these shootings have become so normal now. :(
i am so sorry you experienced this, it is the worst nightmare of anyone with children in this country. i hope you, your husband and daughter got the care and counseling you deserve after such a horrific event, thank the stars they were both okay ❤
I can sort of relate..when my son was 18 he worked as a volunteer firefighter in training to become a firefighter. I was traveling for business and was in the air so had my phone off.. when we landed at O’hare I turned my phone back on and I realized I had missed dozens of calls. This first one I listened to said this ‘this is Chaplain so and so with the Carroll county fire department your son has been involved in a fatal accident we need you to call us back please’. Like you I complained LOST it on the plane! We were being held on the tarmac for some reason and I was literally losing my mind. Thank God the Pilot somehow was able to get emergency clearance and they got me off pretty quickly. I was picked up at the gate and taken directly to a ticket agent who helped me get a return flight at no additional charge. It turns out, no one DIED in the accident my son was in. The 21 year old who was driving the Tanker and lost control was ejected and suffered a broken neck and they THOUGHT he wouldn’t make it, he was life flighted to Atlanta and made a complete recovery. My son was trapped in the wreckage and had to be cut out. He had thousands of gallons of water rush into the upside down cab washing broken glass, grit and all sorts of other debris into his mouth, nose, ears and eyes. He suffered a crushed left shoulder and broken left leg, his right arms was literally mangled where he had been holding on to the ‘Jesus’ handle when it rolled over onto its side and the windows shattered before going over an embankment and landing on its roof. He’s had to have multiple surgeries through the years and his dream of becoming a firefighter came to a screeching halt, but at least he’s safe and still with us.
Why do people have the need to equate this horrific event to something that wasn’t even remotely close? I’m sorry you went through that, but people died here. Kids.
That’s because he was always a coward and now that the gun is gone he probably feels terrified that if he makes eye contact with anyone of the victims or their loved ones, they may rip him from limb to limb! Bravery only came to him while he was armed! I don’t know the details exactly but my guess is he was a social outcast and may have been bullied!
Ethan never raises his head, then we have Darryl Brooks who defends his indefensible and argues when he is wrong, questions his victim's family members... He has gotten tall in what 3yrs? Ethan was raised more old fashion, he had to work. And remember they talked of the pets of the school being bullies. ?
Oh my goodness I cried listening to this. I can’t imagine the fear these children felt. As a parent and grandparent I can’t even put my mind in a place to where I could understand what the family was thinking when they received those texts. He saw his friend dead😢. As a parent I don’t think I could send my kids back to school. Justin God rest your soul. What a good friend to help protect this young man. After this happened every grandchild got bullets proof backpacks and cell phones. Even the little ones in first and second grade. Back when I was a kid we didn’t have backpacks. We had pencil boxes. We only practiced fire drills and earthquake drills. We were never afraid to go to school. In high school the guys drove pick up trucks to school and had a rack in their back windows with their shotguns. Nobody thought twice about shooting anyone. Now we are teaching my grandchildren things they are not old enough to truly comprehend. Practice after practice how to hold their back packs. Taught the little ones words to text and they are just learning to write. Then we have to teach them not only safety at school but about kidnapping. Even though we live states away Nathan’s actions has impacted so many people. My kids didn’t even grow up as children in these evil of times. I wish my grandkids could have the childhood I did. No child should have to go through this. No parent should have to. Nobody should have too. So heartbreaking 😢🙏
My thoughts exactly. It terrifies me that I have 7 young grandchildren only one who is old enough to be in school so far their ages are 11, 5,5,4,3, and twins who just turned one.. as you said when we were in school we never really had fear. It never crossed a students mind to kill other children. There was bullying and fights sure, but to bring a gun to school and gun down other kids just wasn’t even comprehensible. This world has become so very dangerous and cruel.
I'm a late in life single mom,I'm 51 & my son is 7. He starts 2nd grade this Tues & goes to a good public school. We live in an area in OH where Amish reside, farm land & such. Last year there was a "gun scare". Parents got a txt after the fact. Said it was just a rumor& extra security would be in place the following wk.(it was Fri) I am a wreck on a daily basis when he leaves for school. I know it's not a healthy way to be, but in this day&age how can you not be? The fact that they practice tornado drills, bus emergency exit drills, and SCHOOL SHOOTING DRILLS!?!?! I talk with him periodically on this& what he should do and Not do....why is this shit STILL happening??!? This boy has sum WONDERFUL PARENTS!!!!❤❤
Exactly! All 16 year old boys had racks in their trucks. It was for hunting. My own brother was late for school because he saw a deer, pulled the truck over, tracked it, and shot it. It never occurred to us to shoot people.
@ilovebadkitties praying for you and your son and for our government to finally grow a pair and stop this from happening. No parent or child should have to live this way.
I know they have to ask these questions for a reason but these poor kids, having to relive this is so unfair and heartbreaking. I’m so scared to send my son to school…
Unfortunately they have to, everything has to be done perfectly to the letter... Sometimes the law protects the wrong people, I have seen horrible criminals go free due to a mistake made by the court or an attorney.....
Someone tuff enough to walk through a school and kill his classmates but can't look his one of his victims in the eye. No remorse its absolutely deplorable.
It wasn’t tough! It was mental illness. He needed help! He never got it, then he was gifted a effing weapon of mass destruction! He is a child whose brain wasn’t formed and was having horrific hallucinations. We can feel bad for him too! He is a victim as much as the other victims!
As someone who lives in Australia, this is absolutely horrific, and simply unfathomable. To think children in America have to go through this is appalling and avoidable. How many times does this have to happen for your country to wake up??
We don’t know anymore. I just know I have a 4 year old little boy and my partner and I have had serious conversations about getting our son a bulletproof backpack for when he starts kindergarten just for the share hope that it might help protect him if anything should happen
That makes me so incredibly sad. Our children go to school with the freedom of knowing they are safe. I just can't even grasp that small children are subjected to drills in what to do if there is an armed intruder. I am so sorry that you and your husband even have to have that conversation. That must be terrible for you both. Thoughts are with you and your young son❤
It has nothing to do with America so get your head straight before making ridiculous comments, it Could Happen anywhere. A bad guy/gal can always find a way to k*ll someone when they want to.
this kid is a badass. that decision to run literally is the reason he’s alive. so sad Justin had to go this way but he went out protecting this young man. i wish him peace and recovery from this unspeakable situation
I was- AM- in tears listening to the text messages. I have an 18 yr old son, & immediately I was in their places. The absolute terror & horror that he AND his parents must have felt…and the relief of knowing he made it out alive. And then the guilt afterwards. Which they should NOT have to feel but prob did, or still do 😢 The guilt that poor kid must have felt/feels knowing that it could’ve been him who got shot, and not Justin. And the guilt his parents might’ve felt afterwards, after finding out that their son was the 1 out of the 2 of them in that bathroom who made it out… The emotions are SO enveloping & overwhelming- and I was nowhere near there. I can’t even imagine what they’re all going through. Hug your kids a little tighter today- & be so thankful that you can ❤
What makes you confused about that? He’s a boy, so I would assume he was in the boys room. He didn’t randomly run into a bathroom to hide; he said he was already in the bathroom before he even knew something as going on.
You keep commenting this, but it literally makes no difference which bathroom he was in. That doesn't change the outcome or impact the outcome of what happened.
THE HORROR i felt just listening to Keegans testimony was massive. I can not fathom being forced to live it as just listening to it was hard enough. My heart hurts for what these 2 boys had to endure. Keegan, you are so incredibly brave. I'm so glad you acted in the way you did and as a result of your wise choices, you are still here. YOU saved yourself... you are so incredible. May you live your best life, chock full of love, peace, and happiness. The way Justin guided Keegan... that's is a true hero. I hang no doubt that his loss is nothing but massive devastation and dispair will never be understood. My heart breaks 💔 for his family. And to Keegan, having to witness Justin's death... i'm so sorry.
As a mother I can’t even imagine receiving a text like that from my boys. As a former teacher I do not feel any school is 100% safe. Guns are so easily accessible and ANY student could bring a gun even with all the lock downs in place at any moment any student could take out a weapon. Homeschooling my boys.
May God hold Justin in his loving embrace and grant grace and healing to his family and to Keegan, his family and all those who suffered through this day. 🙏🏻
PARENTS...DO A BETTER JOB WITH YOUR KIDS! LOCK THE G*NS UP!! Talk to your kids..get them to open up about their feelings...be there for them (and get off your damn phone)...be present...be on the lookout for things like this & get them help ASAP to prevent this. It is OUR responsibility as parents!!!!
I'm sure he doesn't think he's particularly brave but it's moments like these that show who we are. Running was the bravest thing he could have done. I imagine the terror be felt wondering if the shooter was coming after him.
My daughter's high school went on lockdown this past May because a kid ran through the school carrying what appeared to be a weapon. She called me from her classroom and her voice, I'd never heard her like that before. As far as she knew, there was an actual shooter, it turned out to be an Airsoft gun. Now imaging that it really was a shooting, I cannot imagine getting that call.
@@ElizabethT45I’m so happy that your daughter is okay and nothing bad happened. I can’t imagine how terrifying that must have been for her and you since these school shootings seem to happen every other day😢
At my work we are taught to "run, hide, fight." Run if you can. If you can't run, hide. If you can't hide, or are found, fight. Poor kids. Teagan was smart to run. I wish Justin had been able to escape too.
I can’t imagine how difficult this must have been for the kid as well as the attorney. As a parent, I could not imagine receiving a text like this from my child. Dad remained very even keeled repeating to his son how to stay as calm as possible.
I have no words. 💔💔💔💔 Thank you, Keegan for your bravery in getting up on that stand to honor Justin. I am so sorry for your trauma!!! Sending love & healing energy to all victims!!! 🙏😇💫
Every single one of these shootings destroys a part of me. At this point, after so much, it has really deeply affected my day to day mental health. I feel so much weight and hurt all the time.
Absolutely it's difficult I'm from Australia things go wrong and cause pain to many. I am not sure where your from but America has so much violence. It could be Australia population is 26+ million whereas America 333.400.200 million, somewhere around that. Things are tough in the world for sure at the same things are good more good than bad Take care
@@wandarask8444 I'm a fellow Australian, as far as my knowledge goes they kept the guns pretty under control after Port Arthur. But yes the population difference definately comes into play there. All the best aswell.
I hate the NRA and gun lobby for manipulating the public after the Sandy Hook school shootings. I lost hope that US laws would change after that. Right to a muzzle-loader, yes. Weapon able to kill dozens in minutes, no!
I understand. Please try and talk to a counselor. It really helps. Even if you weren't involved directly, it is so traumatizing to even hear about it. Please though, do it for yourself. Talk about it to someone.
@UTubeTrollPolice298 I get what you’re saying, but it came out in testimony that it was the boys bathroom, but yeah it doesn’t matter what bathroom they were in honestly
I'm 51 & my son is 7yrs old. Im a single parent. Never wanted kids when i was younger & as i got older for sure didnt want children. Then when i was 44yrs old someone up above decided that my life needed to b turned upside down! Didnt even know i was pregnant till late in my pregnancy & yes its possible. My thoughts were this is all i need right now! And it turned out it was EXACTLY what i needed!! That little boy changed my life in ways i never dreamed possible!!! He means more to me than anything in the world! But to have to raise a child in todays world is so frightening! He goes back to school in 2 days& i sit here & worry myself sick! I cant even begin to imagine the fear those parents felt receiving those initial txts from this courageous boy!!! Them to move fwd after something like this...? I would end up homeschooling. I would be a nervous wreck on a daily basis after something like this! There's days i debate if i should start homeschooling or what.....
This Justin is legitimately a great person helping this younger classmate out that he doesn't really know what a champ proud family members but sad this is a true tragedy
Bless this young man's heart! Im so proud of him for neing so brave! What a wonderful young man Justin was to help him and guide him through this as well! I'M SO SORRY TO JUSTIN AND HIS FAMILY! THIS IS HEART WRENCHING! I'M SO GLAD KEEGAN WAS ABLE TO ESCAPE!
This must have changed him forever. I just hope he learns to trust and feel safe again. I live in Australia and cannot imagine having guns in my home, let alone risk my child using it in such a tragic way. It's just foreign to me. This kid is incredibly brave but what has it done to him long term?
These parents actually bought this 14 year old the gun that he committed this crime with. And that was after he obviously exhibited some mental health issues. The parents need a long prison term as well.
Many of us here grew up with guns in our homes. I was taught proper gun safety at a very young age. They are not to be feared, but respected. You have to be taught gun safety and that removes the fear and develops a respect for their capacity.
This is so very, very strange to someone of my generation, that a shooter comes in the bathroom and the people hiding from him continue to text - and then KEEP TEXTING while he stands there with a gun pointed at them. This is just incomprehensible to me.
yeah you'd think that today's kids would expect a psychotic classmate to go off on a killing rampage at any time with a weapon their parents bought them and know exactly what to do when a gun is pushed in their face😏
That is one of the most chilling pieces of evidence I’ve ever heard, and I watch a lot of court tv type content. Absolutely horrifying. I’m so glad we don’t have gun laws that facilitate this type of crime here in New Zealand. And if you don’t think guns are the problem then you’re wilfully ignorant.
As an American, so, so many of us don't understand others' dedication/obsession with their guns. It's truly a different world now than the one I grew up in. This used to be a loving country, welcoming, yet with common sense when it came to protecting citizens. I don't understand what has happened in the last 20 years. I truly want to move to Canada and am seriously considering it. I feel like I always have to apologize to the rest of the world for the ignorance so many display here. Just know that so many here are still good people and not like that. We need to ban assault weapons, close loopholes in gun laws and find other ways to keep schools safer. 💗 This is truly tearing this country apart.
@merrybluegirl8930 Yeah it’s heartbreaking knowing how many people are scared in the US right now. And decisions like Roe v Wade are just so horrifying for women. Please know that so many people around the world support your views. I hope one day the world can heal from all this hate but I don’t think it’s going to happen any time soon. Canada does seem like a good plan…. 💕🌷🌸
Majority of Americans want stricter gun laws but unfortunately the Republicans party is owned by the NRA aka National Rifle Association so they refuse to pass ANY gun laws and in fact have in many Rep run states made it legal for people to own AND carry a gun anywhere without a permit!!! They refer to this as “constitutional carry!” So basically we have people who love to walk the streets open carrying AK-47’s just to scare people!! Then we have others who conceal carry so we basically never know who may have a gun & be hiding it!! It’s truly become frightening to go anywhere!! You can’t feel safe anywhere anymore!! I’d LOVE to live in beautiful NZ where people are sensible and care about their fellow citizens!! Honestly we had problems before but since Trump we’ve gone majorly downhill!! If he’s re-elected I’m out of here I know that much FOR SURE!!! No way we’ll make it through 4 more years of Trump!!!
@@merrybluegirl8930 I totally agree with you. I left the US, the country where I was born ( my relatives arrived in 1637 in a leaky boat, on one side of the family) several years ago...have been gladder and gladder that I did so. The US looks more and more like a foreign third-world country to me, and decimated from the former President. I can only say I have been thankful Joe Biden has been in the White House for these years and hope he continues to serve. Democrats have tried to get gun legislation passed, which has always been thwarted by Republicans -- now simply the party in obeisance to Trump, who obviously controls the NRA as well. No one living there can go to work in the morning, thinking automatically he/she will be home in the evening. Because there could be a shooting, even in a small town. I heard 80,000 Americans moved to Canada last year because of gun violence.
Oh my god, this is literally a nightmare playing out. I don't think I've ever felt so anxious watching a video before. I must have said OMG 50 times in 20 minutes. What a brave young man. How absolutely awful for him. Bless his elder for protecting him. This is just heartbreaking
Every single child in America could end up getting killed like this. Justin had no last words, shot in the head in a bathroom, being stared down by a psychotic person. NO ONE SHOULD HAVE A GUN IN A COUNTRY LIKE THIS. NO ONE. People are too sick, too damaged, too violent. It’s too late for “but what about hunters, farmers, etc. etc.” TOO LATE FOR EXCUSES. If a child weaponizes a toy, the toy gets taken away until the kid can learn how to “play nice”. Same deal.
This is so hard to listen to. Justin sounded like such a kind and caring soul. These poor kids should never be put in this situation. My heard breaks for all involved.
This poor kid. It’s unbelievable to me that someone can just walk into a bathroom and for absolutely no reason, murder children. I just don’t understand.
This is insane. These kids should not have to go through this. I'm so thankful I live in a country where school shootings are rare and guns are controlled. God help America.
What a Brave young man. May God comfort you. I HOPE YOUR FAMILY STAYS EXTRA CLOSE and totally understands the trauma of what you went thru.Life is just not the same after such. It can be wonderful and YOU will get thru this. You will never forget but you will get thru. I am so very sorry.
Actually, in this type of situation, an officer advised that you should fight. I work at a university, and the officer said most people d!e because they sit and wait for the shooter, although they usually outnumber him. He says the chance for survival is greater if everyone charges at once.
Life without parole. I don't understand why criminals get the luxury of television, books, computers, education, etc.when they purposely ended lives that may have benefitted humanity in some positive way. Solitary confinement is more of a punishment to remind them every day of their victims.
Such flawed logic. First of all, there is arguably the same amount of potential for the defendant to be a person that later in life "benefitted humanity in some positive way", so throwing them in prison forever does no good either. That whole saying of "two wrongs don't make a right" rings pretty true here. It also works in the opposite way... One of the victims may be someone who would have turned into the worst serial killer in history or a pedophile or a drug trafficker, or even *yikes* a politician! The reason they have these "luxuries" is because we aren't barbarians. There is no benefit of cruel treatment of prisoners, except to give a twisted satisfaction to people who want to feel better about their life by watching others suffer. Ask any family member of a murder victim how they felt if they heard about or witnessed the execution of the person responsible for killing their loved one. They don't get closure or a sense of peace.
Holy shit, this poor kid is going to have PTSD for the rest of his life, and guilt. Not fair how even though he survived he will always be a victim of this psycho. I feel sorrier still for Justin’s family. Unfortunately American kids have to be taught to fight and overpower a shooter if they have no opportunity to run. 2-1 those kids stood a chance to turn the tables.
Man you’re always wildin with your comments. US Supreme Court has rightfully held juveniles cannot be given the death penalty. You think we should allow the execution of juveniles? If so, you better double check your ethics and morals. Now life without parole is absolutely justified in this scenario, as allowed by law.
Unfortunately there's no death penalty in Michigan, the parents should be charged with murder also for providing the gun an the mother knew he was gonna do something like someone cuz he got in trouble for drawing stuff like what he did an the mother in txt laughing an saying u shouldn't have gotten caught, I live 15 mins from oxford an my brother was stuck at the Meijer parking lot for hours because this is where all the police pulled up because it's next to the school, my brother was texting me as this was all unfolding an didn't know what was going on, it was scary for everyone an the parents should be charged for providing it for him!!
@@THExBLAZEx88 someone who murders innocent kids and has no soul? Yeah, I’m fine with them getting the DP. No MASS SHOOTER should be given any leniency what so ever. Gtfoh.
With public bathrooms, it would have been very helpful if you could have locked the door so no one else can get in. Because these bathrooms where you are supposed to feel safe leads to a dead end. If I remember right in my high school many years ago, you could lock the entire bathroom on the inside. Though if you did that, you'd piss everyone off that would have to use the bathroom especially by the cafeteria. When on lunch, they would heavily regulate the halls so you couldn't go and disrupt other classes. Where I went they had two lunch periods you either had lunch A or lunch B depending where your class was. They really need bathrooms where you can lock the entire door on the inside for emergency situations like this. Then at least more lives could have been saved.
God bless you Keegan. I’m so sorry for what this evil monster put you through. Please reach out for help whenever you need it. I pray you go on to live a good life for yourself. You deserve that. Justin would want that for you. I believe this with every ounce of my being. Prayers for you and your family.
I have witnessed and listened to many harrowing things in my life. As a child, I was exposed to “Faces of Death” 1-4 or 5. But this… this is one of the most terrifying, horrific things I’ve ever heard. Justice- for the students and victims of Oxford high school… is Ethan, his mother and father, going to prison. All of this… every second, was preventable. My daughter was a senior in high school in Macomb County Mi. The students 51 miles away, were terrified. I kept my child home the next day… that’s how far reaching this was. My daughter was a student at MSU when the MSU shooting happened. The thing all of these have in common… mental illness, and the lack of mental health care. There’s a part of me, that is empathic with Ethan.. because he was so horribly ignored. A “dangerous precedent”? NOT PROSECUTING THE PARENTS IS THE DANGEROUS PRECEDENT. If you “don’t have time” to talk with your kids- MAKE TIME. Period.
If Keegan’s dad called the school and told them exactly where they were and it took 7 minutes b4 the shooter came back to the bathroom…..where were the police force
Absolutely sucks that this witness has to be in the courtroom with the shooter. At the very least a visual barrier of some kind should have been put up.
I started crying when his dad said love you. He really thought that would be the last texts to and from his son. And for Justin also texting, I imagine a similar conversation happening with him and his parents.. but for them it really was their last texts to and from their child..
Justin thought ONLY of this kid's safety. He was an incredibly selfless leader and hero. Much respect!!!
Did you notice how she led him to say he was nice??? This kid didn't know him how do we know he was nice...??? Not saying he deserved to die but we always hear how innocent the people were who died...we have no idea if thes people were bullies...we don't know
@@John-x4z6zwhat the hell is wrong with you? In the last moments of this kid’s life, he sacrificed himself and did what the shooter told him to do because he likely knew that if he didn’t, they were both going to be killed right then and there. If he would have ran first, then EC would have turned the gun on the other boy. I believe that Justin had that realization and sacrificed himself. He died trying to protect someone he didn’t even really know. That tells me everything that I need to know about him.
@@John-x4z6zhe was nice during the program where seniors were showing the freshman around campus. That was the experience that he had with him. Ethan didn’t shoot up the school because of bullies. You sounds really ignorant.
@@christinamichelleee👏👏👏👏I completely agree.
So traumatic for him.
And all those kids.
@@John-x4z6z There's nothing to suggest that he did this for 'revenge' on bullies!
In the mother's trial, we heard that he cut baby birds heads off and put them in a jar. Were those baby birds bullies too?
Justin's parents should be very proud of the son they raised. I can't imagine how scared he was, but he still was looking out for other's. We need more ppl like him in this world.
This kid’s dad was no help at all.
And what would YOU DO Ms. Know it all?
@@Cwgrlupwhat could he have done? I think dad handled it as well as he could have
Stop giving credit to parents when you don’t know them. Kids are not always a reflection of the people who raised them. Good people can come from awful families. Crediting parents every time someone does something good is like when people thank god every time someone does something good. It’s annoying and unnecessary!
This poor, BRAVE soul. Bless him. And bless Justin for being a protector, leader, and hero.
@UTubeTrollPolice298why does that fucking matter?
@UTubeTrollPolice298I'm sure in the boys as keegan was using the restroom and didn't know anything was happening until after the shots
Justin is truly one of a kind ! He is my nieces and nephews cousins . The entire family and everyone close to Justin including myself is traumatized by this . Justin so selfless and amazing . I know he is with Jesus and is one of the lords most prized angels !
My heart aches for your loss. Sending lots of love & hugs. Praying for your family & all who knew/loved Justin! RIP Justin🫂❤🙏
You all have one hell of a hero in your family. My heart goes out to you
I'm so sorry!! I've cried and prayed for him and your family. I wish his Dad could've gotten his "one moment" with the shooter!!!
❤ He is definitely a hero & with JESUS! ❤ Prayers for all the loved ones & those effected!🌹
I pray this to be true! 😢
Rest in peace Justin. You’ll always be remembered for your selflessness and bravery.
Those texts are heartbreaking and terrifying, imagine getting those from your child
Yea… unfortunately our politicians don’t give a fuck
As she read them as a mom myself, when she read the text “mom?” Tears streamed down. I have envisioned this scenario and what I would do. I told my two daughters, (one a senior and one in junior high) no matter what momma is coming. I don’t care if I have to climb through a window to get to you. My kids know my character and temperament and know nothing would stop me. This is heartbreaking.
@@J-Bird88imagine those babies in Texas school or the kindergarten school soooo sad. They were so scared and don’t have phones :(
@kathy73160 thats exactly what I thought of too, and the momma that said screw you I'm going in and DID. my girls and I have talked about so many different scenarios even at home.
@@J-Bird88when the msu shooting happened- my daughter had just moved dorms. I’m so grateful- but it was horrific. Seconds were an eternity. I was so helpless- I wanted to drive there- but wouldn’t have been able to even get close. It was my worst nightmare come true.
I cant believe he shot this young man Justin in cold blood like that. He executed him. That poor kid. His poor parents. He did everything he was told to do. He even tried to help a kid younger than himself and he got shot for it. It ls unbelievably horrible and tragic.
Jennifer Crumbley said she wouldn't do anything differently. After listening to this young mans testimony.... how in God's name could she possibly say that.
An that's why she was found guilty
Probably was instructed by her lawyer to say that too. So she didn't admit any wrong doing. Either way, she would've been convicted. Because she deserved to be held accountable.
Exactly what I think.@@denise8791
I had to stop it at7:06/20:14. I would have lost my soul getting that text from my son!
Ethan and his parents should never see the light of day again.
Do you have children??? I'm wondering what your perspective is on being a parent
@@John-x4z6zI am a parent and if you’ve seen Ethan’s journal entries you’d know he asked his parents for help with his mental health and they didn’t take him seriously. His mother said on the stand she wouldn’t do ANYTHING different if she could go back in time. As a parent I would want to go back and help my child who was crying out for help. His parents acted more like his friend than his parents causing their son to have no one advocating for him when he knew something was wrong in his head. Instead they buy him a gun…
I have teenage children, and whole heartedly agree. I know my children well enough to see changes that would indicate mental distress. If I see that I will immediately start placing calls to professionals, NOT buy them a firearm. Especially an unsecured one, only to not mention it to the school like his parents didn't when they were called in. I also watched her entire trial, and she lied repeatedly on the stand and her lawyer is more unhinged now than her statements after the Nassar case. I hope they convict.
@@aspt1980agree 100 percent . The parents need to take accountability. It is your job to see the difference and to get your kid mental health and who buys a gun for a kid in distress.
@@michellehuhn7303Exactly!
He pulled Justin out of the stall to shoot him? Why? Justin was a hero, he sacrificed himself, my God! Keegan survived by instinct, he has has been traumatized beyond belief. To know that the shooter interacted w/ some of these kids b4 killing them is bone chilling!
He did it so he can tell him or others that he has/had the power and the ability to do it. That's why he pulled him out of the stall.
Exactly can you believe They Shooter keeps coming back to you how horrifying
My my my 😢😢😢
What a wonderful young man Justin was! He was helping and guiding keegan in such a horrific time and was thinking of him instead of only himself!
I cannot imagine receiving those texts from my child, believing they were safe at school. How brave of him to run like that cause I FULLY believe he would have been killed. What a horrible thing to happen. 😔
@NotVille_what would make you think they were in a girls room?
It was the boys bathroom in the 200 hall
Why would it matter what bathroom
they were in?
Even without a gun he was talking about drowning young children or toturing them and throwing them off a cliff. He is beyond evil.
My daughter was at the mall during a shooting… Her dad took her birthday shopping and I was grocery shopping with my husband when she messaged that there was a shooting and said “Dads not here.” It took me a second to realize what she said and I had a nervous breakdown in the middle of Walmart. She’s 17 and was shopping at Forever 21 while her Dad ran to the adjacent food court for drinks. She hid in the dressing room with girls all strangers huddled together some of them crying. Her dad said he could smell the gun shots and ran across the mall to get to her not knowing where the shots came from. They locked him out of course so he hid behind the closest wall. Thankfully nobody was shot. Nobody was ever caught either that were aware of. But knowing how I felt getting those texts… I was not nearly as composed as those parents. I was sick to my stomach and kept randomly crying all day, even after they got out and were completely safe… It’s not something any parent should ever have to experience and I didn’t even go thru the worst of it.
I can’t imagine just getting these texts, not being with your child …
Of course this was really hitting you even more after!
Glad no one got shot!
How horrible that these shootings have become so normal now. :(
i am so sorry you experienced this, it is the worst nightmare of anyone with children in this country. i hope you, your husband and daughter got the care and counseling you deserve after such a horrific event, thank the stars they were both okay ❤
I can sort of relate..when my son was 18 he worked as a volunteer firefighter in training to become a firefighter. I was traveling for business and was in the air so had my phone off.. when we landed at O’hare I turned my phone back on and I realized I had missed dozens of calls. This first one I listened to said this ‘this is Chaplain so and so with the Carroll county fire department your son has been involved in a fatal accident we need you to call us back please’. Like you I complained LOST it on the plane! We were being held on the tarmac for some reason and I was literally losing my mind. Thank God the Pilot somehow was able to get emergency clearance and they got me off pretty quickly. I was picked up at the gate and taken directly to a ticket agent who helped me get a return flight at no additional charge. It turns out, no one DIED in the accident my son was in. The 21 year old who was driving the Tanker and lost control was ejected and suffered a broken neck and they THOUGHT he wouldn’t make it, he was life flighted to Atlanta and made a complete recovery. My son was trapped in the wreckage and had to be cut out. He had thousands of gallons of water rush into the upside down cab washing broken glass, grit and all sorts of other debris into his mouth, nose, ears and eyes. He suffered a crushed left shoulder and broken left leg, his right arms was literally mangled where he had been holding on to the ‘Jesus’ handle when it rolled over onto its side and the windows shattered before going over an embankment and landing on its roof. He’s had to have multiple surgeries through the years and his dream of becoming a firefighter came to a screeching halt, but at least he’s safe and still with us.
Why do people have the need to equate this horrific event to something that wasn’t even remotely close? I’m sorry you went through that, but people died here. Kids.
@@melissaspake7727nothing at all like this! Nothing. But glad your son is ok.
This is what he wanted, but holding his head down like a coward. I feel do bad for these families and children.
If he was looking to the witnesses you would say he was smug, remorseless, proud and unashamed.
Crumbley has sealed his fate
@@inappropriate_comments ok and? not the apologist, LMAO. atleast the behavior would match be forreal bro.
@@natalied662you would rather him act like tj Lane?
He's been diagnosed as psychotic, a very ill kid. Give him a break.
I sure hope this young man gets all the counseling he needs to move beyond this horrific incident.
However much Ethan planned this all out and said he wanted to be remembered for it, now he can’t even look up during his own trial for doing it.
That’s because he was always a coward and now that the gun is gone he probably feels terrified that if he makes eye contact with anyone of the victims or their loved ones, they may rip him from limb to limb! Bravery only came to him while he was armed! I don’t know the details exactly but my guess is he was a social outcast and may have been bullied!
@@apemancommeth8087
Such a sad sick story.
Sadly they need metal detectors, At the entrance, of all High Schools, This should happen to know child.
Ethan never raises his head, then we have Darryl Brooks who defends his indefensible and argues when he is wrong, questions his victim's family members... He has gotten tall in what 3yrs? Ethan was raised more old fashion, he had to work. And remember they talked of the pets of the school being bullies. ?
the education people were negligent.
Oh my goodness I cried listening to this. I can’t imagine the fear these children felt. As a parent and grandparent I can’t even put my mind in a place to where I could understand what the family was thinking when they received those texts. He saw his friend dead😢. As a parent I don’t think I could send my kids back to school. Justin God rest your soul. What a good friend to help protect this young man. After this happened every grandchild got bullets proof backpacks and cell phones. Even the little ones in first and second grade. Back when I was a kid we didn’t have backpacks. We had pencil boxes. We only practiced fire drills and earthquake drills. We were never afraid to go to school. In high school the guys drove pick up trucks to school and had a rack in their back windows with their shotguns. Nobody thought twice about shooting anyone. Now we are teaching my grandchildren things they are not old enough to truly comprehend. Practice after practice how to hold their back packs. Taught the little ones words to text and they are just learning to write. Then we have to teach them not only safety at school but about kidnapping. Even though we live states away Nathan’s actions has impacted so many people. My kids didn’t even grow up as children in these evil of times. I wish my grandkids could have the childhood I did. No child should have to go through this. No parent should have to. Nobody should have too. So heartbreaking 😢🙏
Back then, people's lives were more important than guns. Guns were tools for hunting animals. Peace officers used guns at work.
My thoughts exactly. It terrifies me that I have 7 young grandchildren only one who is old enough to be in school so far their ages are 11, 5,5,4,3, and twins who just turned one.. as you said when we were in school we never really had fear. It never crossed a students mind to kill other children. There was bullying and fights sure, but to bring a gun to school and gun down other kids just wasn’t even comprehensible. This world has become so very dangerous and cruel.
I'm a late in life single mom,I'm 51 & my son is 7. He starts 2nd grade this Tues & goes to a good public school. We live in an area in OH where Amish reside, farm land & such. Last year there was a "gun scare". Parents got a txt after the fact. Said it was just a rumor& extra security would be in place the following wk.(it was Fri) I am a wreck on a daily basis when he leaves for school. I know it's not a healthy way to be, but in this day&age how can you not be? The fact that they practice tornado drills, bus emergency exit drills, and SCHOOL SHOOTING DRILLS!?!?! I talk with him periodically on this& what he should do and Not do....why is this shit STILL happening??!? This boy has sum WONDERFUL PARENTS!!!!❤❤
Exactly! All 16 year old boys had racks in their trucks. It was for hunting. My own brother was late for school because he saw a deer, pulled the truck over, tracked it, and shot it.
It never occurred to us to shoot people.
@ilovebadkitties praying for you and your son and for our government to finally grow a pair and stop this from happening. No parent or child should have to live this way.
I know they have to ask these questions for a reason but these poor kids, having to relive this is so unfair and heartbreaking. I’m so scared to send my son to school…
Private school or homeschooling is the only way now.
@@chrissyellem7397 The shooting in Nashville was a private school.
Unfortunately they have to, everything has to be done perfectly to the letter... Sometimes the law protects the wrong people, I have seen horrible criminals go free due to a mistake made by the court or an attorney.....
@@chrissyellem7397 It depends. We've had shootings at private schools.
@@chrissyellem7397private schools are not safe from mass shootings either.
Someone tuff enough to walk through a school and kill his classmates but can't look his one of his victims in the eye. No remorse its absolutely deplorable.
It wasn’t tough! It was mental illness. He needed help! He never got it, then he was gifted a effing weapon of mass destruction! He is a child whose brain wasn’t formed and was having horrific hallucinations. We can feel bad for him too! He is a victim as much as the other victims!
I guess I don’t understand how feeling so ashamed you can’t look someone in the eye means you don’t have remorse. Weird take.
@@Brickswithjon It means shame and cowardice, but not lack of remorse, no.
As someone who lives in Australia, this is absolutely horrific, and simply unfathomable. To think children in America have to go through this is appalling and avoidable. How many times does this have to happen for your country to wake up??
America has lost its way.
We don’t know anymore. I just know I have a 4 year old little boy and my partner and I have had serious conversations about getting our son a bulletproof backpack for when he starts kindergarten just for the share hope that it might help protect him if anything should happen
That makes me so incredibly sad. Our children go to school with the freedom of knowing they are safe. I just can't even grasp that small children are subjected to drills in what to do if there is an armed intruder. I am so sorry that you and your husband even have to have that conversation. That must be terrible for you both. Thoughts are with you and your young son❤
Children should NOT have to deal with Situations like this!! Nobody for that matter whatever age. America is a real s*it show!
It has nothing to do with America so get your head straight before making ridiculous comments, it Could Happen anywhere. A bad guy/gal can always find a way to k*ll someone when they want to.
Criminals will always have guns no matter what the law says. STAY AWAY FROM GUN FREE ZONES!! that’s where you would probably get shot.
Yep. Self created sh*t.
Call your lawmakers and let’s pass laws that will prevent this from happening. He was gifted a weapon of mass destruction by his useless parents!
@UTubeTrollPolice298that’s what is important?
this kid is a badass. that decision to run literally is the reason he’s alive. so sad Justin had to go this way but he went out protecting this young man. i wish him peace and recovery from this unspeakable situation
I was- AM- in tears listening to the text messages. I have an 18 yr old son, & immediately I was in their places. The absolute terror & horror that he AND his parents must have felt…and the relief of knowing he made it out alive. And then the guilt afterwards. Which they should NOT have to feel but prob did, or still do 😢
The guilt that poor kid must have felt/feels knowing that it could’ve been him who got shot, and not Justin. And the guilt his parents might’ve felt afterwards, after finding out that their son was the 1 out of the 2 of them in that bathroom who made it out…
The emotions are SO enveloping & overwhelming- and I was nowhere near there. I can’t even imagine what they’re all going through. Hug your kids a little tighter today- & be so thankful that you can ❤
@@user-sg4vy3kj3n Another nut case!
It's wrong for people like you and this young man to experience this trauma because our lawmakers refuse to pass appropriate laws. Stay safe.
@@PAMELAPORTER-ci7mr”Hey Everybody Hand Them Over & Stay Safe!!”
Okay Pamela Porter 🤡🥴
@@PAMELAPORTER-ci7mrYeah I read your other comments that were removed, I know where you stand!!
@@PAMELAPORTER-ci7mrYou want us to “ *GIVE HIM A BREAK* BC HE’S SUPPOSEDLY DIAGNOSED AS PSYCHOTIC” Well That Is *Not* Happening!! 😡
I live in Oxford. So proud of our law enforcement officers. Still hurting for our kids.
What makes you confused about that? He’s a boy, so I would assume he was in the boys room. He didn’t randomly run into a bathroom to hide; he said he was already in the bathroom before he even knew something as going on.
@UTubeTrollPolice298can you stop asking this. It doesn’t fucking matter what bathroom they were in. Shut the fuck up.
You keep commenting this, but it literally makes no difference which bathroom he was in. That doesn't change the outcome or impact the outcome of what happened.
I do not believe he can be rehabilitated and should go to prison for the rest of his life. That's not an easy thing to say about another person.
Agreed. Lock him up. He is a very dangerous person with a damaged soul.
Shouldn't been taken alive
THE HORROR i felt just listening to Keegans testimony was massive. I can not fathom being forced to live it as just listening to it was hard enough. My heart hurts for what these 2 boys had to endure. Keegan, you are so incredibly brave. I'm so glad you acted in the way you did and as a result of your wise choices, you are still here. YOU saved yourself... you are so incredible. May you live your best life, chock full of love, peace, and happiness.
The way Justin guided Keegan... that's is a true hero. I hang no doubt that his loss is nothing but massive devastation and dispair will never be understood. My heart breaks 💔 for his family. And to Keegan, having to witness Justin's death... i'm so sorry.
Keagan is such a brave young man. Rest in paradise Justin.
As a mother I can’t even imagine receiving a text like that from my boys. As a former teacher I do not feel any school is 100% safe. Guns are so easily accessible and ANY student could bring a gun even with all the lock downs in place at any moment any student could take out a weapon. Homeschooling my boys.
5:50 imagine being the mother who received those texts. gives me chills. justin is a beautiful soul
May God hold Justin in his loving embrace and grant grace and healing to his family and to Keegan, his family and all those who suffered through this day. 🙏🏻
RIP Justin ❤ You are a hero and gone way too soon. My heart goes out to the entire community 😢
Monster. There's no other word for this man.
Yiu mean mentally ill 15 year old.
I’ve never seen so many law enforcement officers in one courtroom.
PARENTS...DO A BETTER JOB WITH YOUR KIDS! LOCK THE G*NS UP!! Talk to your kids..get them to open up about their feelings...be there for them (and get off your damn phone)...be present...be on the lookout for things like this & get them help ASAP to prevent this. It is OUR responsibility as parents!!!!
AMEN!! Lock up your guns! It IS your responsibility!
I watched the moms testimony. It was horrible. This child was seriously mentally ill. So the parents bought him a gun. And didnt lock it up
Horrible what this punk did and for the young man to have to see his friend die is just sickening!! Glad he got life, pure EVIL!!
Now it's time to hold the school and administrators accountable. These shootings are too easy to stop for this to keep happening!
I'm sure he doesn't think he's particularly brave but it's moments like these that show who we are. Running was the bravest thing he could have done. I imagine the terror be felt wondering if the shooter was coming after him.
It’s interesting to me when a lot of these defendants sit in court with there head hung down and don’t look up.
Not so tough now are you Ethan.
His parents could have stopped this
I couldn’t imagine being his mother and receiving those texts!
My daughter's high school went on lockdown this past May because a kid ran through the school carrying what appeared to be a weapon. She called me from her classroom and her voice, I'd never heard her like that before. As far as she knew, there was an actual shooter, it turned out to be an Airsoft gun. Now imaging that it really was a shooting, I cannot imagine getting that call.
@@ElizabethT45I’m so happy that your daughter is okay and nothing bad happened. I can’t imagine how terrifying that must have been for her and you since these school shootings seem to happen every other day😢
Holy crap. He ran for his life. Who pays for the PTSD treatment?
Sue the school board, the city, police - they all failed them.
My heart is pounding just imagining what these boys went through
At my work we are taught to "run, hide, fight." Run if you can. If you can't run, hide. If you can't hide, or are found, fight. Poor kids. Teagan was smart to run. I wish Justin had been able to escape too.
I can’t imagine how difficult this must have been for the kid as well as the attorney. As a parent, I could not imagine receiving a text like this from my child. Dad remained very even keeled repeating to his son how to stay as calm as possible.
The shooter has no desire to look up at one of the victims of his actions
I have no words. 💔💔💔💔 Thank you, Keegan for your bravery in getting up on that stand to honor Justin. I am so sorry for your trauma!!! Sending love & healing energy to all victims!!! 🙏😇💫
Every single one of these shootings destroys a part of me. At this point, after so much, it has really deeply affected my day to day mental health. I feel so much weight and hurt all the time.
I don't know where you are from but assuming America. When will they learn? Leave the guns in the military!
Absolutely it's difficult I'm from Australia things go wrong and cause pain to many. I am not sure where your from but America has so much violence.
It could be Australia population is 26+ million whereas America 333.400.200 million, somewhere around that.
Things are tough in the world for sure at the same things are good more good than bad
Take care
@@wandarask8444 I'm a fellow Australian, as far as my knowledge goes they kept the guns pretty under control after Port Arthur. But yes the population difference definately comes into play there. All the best aswell.
I hate the NRA and gun lobby for manipulating the public after the Sandy Hook school shootings. I lost hope that US laws would change after that.
Right to a muzzle-loader, yes. Weapon able to kill dozens in minutes, no!
I understand. Please try and talk to a counselor. It really helps. Even if you weren't involved directly, it is so traumatizing to even hear about it. Please though, do it for yourself. Talk about it to someone.
This poor kid this makes me cry every time I hear it
@UTubeTrollPolice298the boys why are you so pressed about it 🤷🏻♀️
@UTubeTrollPolice298 and I answered you🤷🏻♀️ ever since the trial started these old proceedings keep popping up in my YT feed.
@UTubeTrollPolice298 no they were in the boys bathroom. What makes you think that they were in the girls bathroom
@UTubeTrollPolice298 I get what you’re saying, but it came out in testimony that it was the boys bathroom, but yeah it doesn’t matter what bathroom they were in honestly
Horrible….
My heart hurts for this young man. He is reliving this horrible nightmare all over again. Prayers
I'm 51 & my son is 7yrs old. Im a single parent. Never wanted kids when i was younger & as i got older for sure didnt want children. Then when i was 44yrs old someone up above decided that my life needed to b turned upside down! Didnt even know i was pregnant till late in my pregnancy & yes its possible. My thoughts were this is all i need right now! And it turned out it was EXACTLY what i needed!! That little boy changed my life in ways i never dreamed possible!!! He means more to me than anything in the world! But to have to raise a child in todays world is so frightening! He goes back to school in 2 days& i sit here & worry myself sick! I cant even begin to imagine the fear those parents felt receiving those initial txts from this courageous boy!!! Them to move fwd after something like this...? I would end up homeschooling. I would be a nervous wreck on a daily basis after something like this! There's days i debate if i should start homeschooling or what.....
This is raw, not like some lifetime movie or media coverage. More people need to hear the reality, even without images it is so vivid.
My heart goes out to these traumatized children. The world will never be the same for them.
Prayers for the victims parents and all of the survivors that are reliving this. Tragic.
This Justin is legitimately a great person helping this younger classmate out that he doesn't really know what a champ proud family members but sad this is a true tragedy
Oh Justin... I'm so sorry. I hope you have gone on to a far better place where monsters don't exist.
He can't even look up at him. Despicable.
he bet not
These young men are hero’s. May god bless Justin’s soul and may god bless Keegan.
Thinking this monster even deserves less than life is a joke. I know its their job but i couldnt imagine expecting thay
Bless this young man's heart! Im so proud of him for neing so brave! What a wonderful young man Justin was to help him and guide him through this as well! I'M SO SORRY TO JUSTIN AND HIS FAMILY! THIS IS HEART WRENCHING!
I'M SO GLAD KEEGAN WAS ABLE TO ESCAPE!
jesus christ. WHY are these children having so many guns?????? Onlyin America. This is unbelievable.
Sending prayers to Keagan and all the children and families affected by this tragedy!
This must have changed him forever. I just hope he learns to trust and feel safe again. I live in Australia and cannot imagine having guns in my home, let alone risk my child using it in such a tragic way. It's just foreign to me. This kid is incredibly brave but what has it done to him long term?
These parents actually bought this 14 year old the gun that he committed this crime with. And that was after he obviously exhibited some mental health issues. The parents need a long prison term as well.
Many of us here grew up with guns in our homes. I was taught proper gun safety at a very young age. They are not to be feared, but respected. You have to be taught gun safety and that removes the fear and develops a respect for their capacity.
@@jenniferwray3329to bad we don’t have laws that make all these things mandatory to own a gun!! Maybe then we’d be far safer!!
This is so very, very strange to someone of my generation, that a shooter comes in the bathroom and the people hiding from him continue to text - and then KEEP TEXTING while he stands there with a gun pointed at them. This is just incomprehensible to me.
Crazy right 😢
yeah you'd think that today's kids would expect a psychotic classmate to go off on a killing rampage at any time with a weapon their parents bought them and know exactly what to do when a gun is pushed in their face😏
They should of both tackled him 😢
Because they need to let their parents know !
Did you listen to this at all? There were stalls in the bathroom!! Jesus help you.
Justin, a hero for trying to save Teagan. Teagan, you were brave!!!! My heart goes out to the families. 😢
That is one of the most chilling pieces of evidence I’ve ever heard, and I watch a lot of court tv type content. Absolutely horrifying. I’m so glad we don’t have gun laws that facilitate this type of crime here in New Zealand. And if you don’t think guns are the problem then you’re wilfully ignorant.
As an American, so, so many of us don't understand others' dedication/obsession with their guns. It's truly a different world now than the one I grew up in. This used to be a loving country, welcoming, yet with common sense when it came to protecting citizens. I don't understand what has happened in the last 20 years. I truly want to move to Canada and am seriously considering it. I feel like I always have to apologize to the rest of the world for the ignorance so many display here. Just know that so many here are still good people and not like that. We need to ban assault weapons, close loopholes in gun laws and find other ways to keep schools safer. 💗 This is truly tearing this country apart.
@merrybluegirl8930
Yeah it’s heartbreaking knowing how many people are scared in the US right now. And decisions like Roe v Wade are just so horrifying for women. Please know that so many people around the world support your views. I hope one day the world can heal from all this hate but I don’t think it’s going to happen any time soon. Canada does seem like a good plan….
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Majority of Americans want stricter gun laws but unfortunately the Republicans party is owned by the NRA aka National Rifle Association so they refuse to pass ANY gun laws and in fact have in many Rep run states made it legal for people to own AND carry a gun anywhere without a permit!!! They refer to this as “constitutional carry!” So basically we have people who love to walk the streets open carrying AK-47’s just to scare people!! Then we have others who conceal carry so we basically never know who may have a gun & be hiding it!! It’s truly become frightening to go anywhere!! You can’t feel safe anywhere anymore!! I’d LOVE to live in beautiful NZ where people are sensible and care about their fellow citizens!! Honestly we had problems before but since Trump we’ve gone majorly downhill!! If he’s re-elected I’m out of here I know that much FOR SURE!!! No way we’ll make it through 4 more years of Trump!!!
@@merrybluegirl8930 I totally agree with you. I left the US, the country where I was born ( my relatives arrived in 1637 in a leaky boat, on one side of the family) several years ago...have been gladder and gladder that I did so. The US looks more and more like a foreign third-world country to me, and decimated from the former President. I can only say I have been thankful Joe Biden has been in the White House for these years and hope he continues to serve. Democrats have tried to get gun legislation passed, which has always been thwarted by Republicans -- now simply the party in obeisance to Trump, who obviously controls the NRA as well. No one living there can go to work in the morning, thinking automatically he/she will be home in the evening. Because there could be a shooting, even in a small town. I heard 80,000 Americans moved to Canada last year because of gun violence.
Wow, both these boys are so brave. Justin was an amazing friend and his parents sure did great raising such a great young man. ❤
Oh my god, this is literally a nightmare playing out. I don't think I've ever felt so anxious watching a video before. I must have said OMG 50 times in 20 minutes. What a brave young man. How absolutely awful for him. Bless his elder for protecting him. This is just heartbreaking
Every single child in America could end up getting killed like this. Justin had no last words, shot in the head in a bathroom, being stared down by a psychotic person. NO ONE SHOULD HAVE A GUN IN A COUNTRY LIKE THIS. NO ONE. People are too sick, too damaged, too violent. It’s too late for “but what about hunters, farmers, etc. etc.” TOO LATE FOR EXCUSES. If a child weaponizes a toy, the toy gets taken away until the kid can learn how to “play nice”. Same deal.
This is so hard to listen to. Justin sounded like such a kind and caring soul. These poor kids should never be put in this situation. My heard breaks for all involved.
Omg. What a nightmare
This poor kid. It’s unbelievable to me that someone can just walk into a bathroom and for absolutely no reason, murder children. I just don’t understand.
This is insane. These kids should not have to go through this. I'm so thankful I live in a country where school shootings are rare and guns are controlled. God help America.
There have been so many damn shootings, in schools and out of schools, that I can’t remember them by places any more. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
What a Brave young man. May God comfort you.
I HOPE YOUR FAMILY STAYS EXTRA CLOSE and totally understands the trauma of what you went thru.Life is just not the same after such. It can be wonderful and YOU will get thru this. You will never forget but you will get thru.
I am so very sorry.
I wish Justin and keagan would’ve both whooped his ass! I know u don’t fight/wrestle a gunman but damnit I wish no one would’ve lost their lives!!
Actually, in this type of situation, an officer advised that you should fight. I work at a university, and the officer said most people d!e because they sit and wait for the shooter, although they usually outnumber him. He says the chance for survival is greater if everyone charges at once.
Did anyone else hear the prosecutors voice breaking as she read those messages?
God bless Justin's memory ❤
Life without parole. I don't understand why criminals get the luxury of television, books, computers, education, etc.when they purposely ended lives that may have benefitted humanity in some positive way. Solitary confinement is more of a punishment to remind them every day of their victims.
Such flawed logic. First of all, there is arguably the same amount of potential for the defendant to be a person that later in life "benefitted humanity in some positive way", so throwing them in prison forever does no good either. That whole saying of "two wrongs don't make a right" rings pretty true here. It also works in the opposite way... One of the victims may be someone who would have turned into the worst serial killer in history or a pedophile or a drug trafficker, or even *yikes* a politician! The reason they have these "luxuries" is because we aren't barbarians. There is no benefit of cruel treatment of prisoners, except to give a twisted satisfaction to people who want to feel better about their life by watching others suffer. Ask any family member of a murder victim how they felt if they heard about or witnessed the execution of the person responsible for killing their loved one. They don't get closure or a sense of peace.
They don’t all get that.
Rip to all who lost their lives ,🙏🙏
Holy shit, this poor kid is going to have PTSD for the rest of his life, and guilt. Not fair how even though he survived he will always be a victim of this psycho. I feel sorrier still for Justin’s family.
Unfortunately American kids have to be taught to fight and overpower a shooter if they have no opportunity to run. 2-1 those kids stood a chance to turn the tables.
How terrifying to have to text that AND receive that text!! 😭😭😭
Life without parole. Anything less is a spit in the face of the victims and their families. He should be getting the DP.
Man you’re always wildin with your comments. US Supreme Court has rightfully held juveniles cannot be given the death penalty. You think we should allow the execution of juveniles? If so, you better double check your ethics and morals.
Now life without parole is absolutely justified in this scenario, as allowed by law.
Agreed
@@THExBLAZEx88shut up
Unfortunately there's no death penalty in Michigan, the parents should be charged with murder also for providing the gun an the mother knew he was gonna do something like someone cuz he got in trouble for drawing stuff like what he did an the mother in txt laughing an saying u shouldn't have gotten caught, I live 15 mins from oxford an my brother was stuck at the Meijer parking lot for hours because this is where all the police pulled up because it's next to the school, my brother was texting me as this was all unfolding an didn't know what was going on, it was scary for everyone an the parents should be charged for providing it for him!!
@@THExBLAZEx88 someone who murders innocent kids and has no soul? Yeah, I’m fine with them getting the DP. No MASS SHOOTER should be given any leniency what so ever. Gtfoh.
Wow Keagan is so brave.
RIP Justin, he thought of others before himself, he is a legend
This is so horrific. No one deserves to go through this.
Why does this courtroom use 1980's camera equipment?
Why do you complain about useless info?
@@AidaShawJ.D. why do YOU care what I complain about?
@@AidaShawJ.D.not necessarily useless comments. The courts are open to the public and with today's advance technology should be updated.
All parents should have to watch this footage!
And the nerve of his one attorney crying for Ethan at his sentencing!! 😡😲
With public bathrooms, it would have been very helpful if you could have locked the door so no one else can get in. Because these bathrooms where you are supposed to feel safe leads to a dead end. If I remember right in my high school many years ago, you could lock the entire bathroom on the inside. Though if you did that, you'd piss everyone off that would have to use the bathroom especially by the cafeteria. When on lunch, they would heavily regulate the halls so you couldn't go and disrupt other classes. Where I went they had two lunch periods you either had lunch A or lunch B depending where your class was. They really need bathrooms where you can lock the entire door on the inside for emergency situations like this. Then at least more lives could have been saved.
God bless you Keegan. I’m so sorry for what this evil monster put you through. Please reach out for help whenever you need it. I pray you go on to live a good life for yourself. You deserve that. Justin would want that for you. I believe this with every ounce of my being. Prayers for you and your family.
That poor boy 💔
How devastating.
Sports illustrated did an article on Keegan and how he and his family are coping with this. Very good read
why does it look like this was filmed in 1990
Adults failing our kids…. Not banning guns, bad parenting, terrible parenting,
I have witnessed and listened to many harrowing things in my life. As a child, I was exposed to “Faces of Death” 1-4 or 5. But this… this is one of the most terrifying, horrific things I’ve ever heard. Justice- for the students and victims of Oxford high school… is Ethan, his mother and father, going to prison. All of this… every second, was preventable. My daughter was a senior in high school in Macomb County Mi. The students 51 miles away, were terrified. I kept my child home the next day… that’s how far reaching this was.
My daughter was a student at MSU when the MSU shooting happened.
The thing all of these have in common… mental illness, and the lack of mental health care.
There’s a part of me, that is empathic with Ethan.. because he was so horribly ignored. A “dangerous precedent”? NOT PROSECUTING THE PARENTS IS THE DANGEROUS PRECEDENT. If you “don’t have time” to talk with your kids- MAKE TIME. Period.
If Keegan’s dad called the school and told them exactly where they were and it took 7 minutes b4 the shooter came back to the bathroom…..where were the
police force
How traumatic and so very brave!!!!
Absolutely sucks that this witness has to be in the courtroom with the shooter. At the very least a visual barrier of some kind should have been put up.
I started crying when his dad said love you. He really thought that would be the last texts to and from his son.
And for Justin also texting, I imagine a similar conversation happening with him and his parents.. but for them it really was their last texts to and from their child..
Justin you are amazing, and your family as well 🕊️ ❤ 🕯️