Wireless 3D Printing on Creality Ender 3 using ASTROBOX TOUCH
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- Chuck introduces Wireless 3D Printing on Creality Ender 3 using ASTROBOX TOUCH. He compares it to other solutions such as the Toy Box 3D printer seen on Shark Tank. He shows you how the wohle Astroprint system works and how to make your Ender3 or any 3D printer capable of printing wirelessly from a phone.
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Many have commented the price of Astrobox Touch is too expensive. You can build your own Astrobox Gateway for around $65 or less.
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blog.astroprint.com/how-to-create-an-astrobox-with-a-raspberry-pi-3/
That is what I did. If you already use Octoprint, then you have all you need to try Astroprint. Just pop out the SD card and pop in a new one with Astro, and give it a try. If you don't like, pop back in the Octo card, and now you know first hand, rather than speculation.
You can build your own AstroBox Touch for $120 (including paid AstroBox Touch Software License) and 3D print the enclosure (www.thingiverse.com/thing:3490621) I did this, works like a charm!
@@ultraintent7864 Broken link...
I cant find a astrobox anywhere. This Is bs. I want one.
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Great job, Chuck! We have been running an DIY Astrobox for about 9 months, and a DIY Touch box for about 2 months, on an Ender 3. While it isn't for everyone, and I am surprised by the sheer hate it receives, it does excel in some use cases. We have 3 printers, the 2 I use the most are connected with Octoprint, but my kids primarily use the Ender, and the Astrobox has worked out fantastically with it! My kids can either find models online, or make their own in TinkerCad, then slice and print them using a Chromebook, all on their own. Having a cloud slicer is perfect for this scenario. They can tweak print settings, and control the printer without having to delve into Cura or Slic3r. The touch interface is a real bonus! I used an extra RPi 2, and a spare 7" RPi display to build the box, with my own 3D printed enclosure.
A recent update added baby z stepping, so you can now use live z adjustment with any printer, even if the manufacturer doesn't offer it in their firmware! Because of the Raspberry Pi, you can also use regular old USB thumb drives to add STL or gcode files to the box, no more stupid microsd cards. So you can also slice on any other slicer and transport the gcode to the Astrobox by wifi, ethernet, or thumbdrive. It makes the box very practical. The touch interface is very intuitive, and well designed. It is much better than TouchUI is on Octoprint!
It isn't perfect, which is why I still have Octoprint on the other machines. Those machines don't need touch interfaces either. The main missing features that keep me using Octoprint are the ability to send directly to Octoprint from Slic3r, the gcode viewer, and all the plugins. One big advantage of using the cloud is the ability to monitor, and control from outside your home network, without having to punch a hole in your firewall. No Octoprint instance should be available from the Internet.
Thanks for the great summary. Some people just don’t “get it”. You do.
Exactly as you and Chep say. Haters just do not see other side of the coin...
Octoprint is for tinkerers, while Astrobox is for those non-technical people, who just want something plug-and-play.
I wouldn't use it myself, as my RPi3 + Octoprint gives me the most useful feature of being able to integrate my printer right into the slicer on my PC.
And quite honestly, I wouldn't sleep well with my printer connected to some cloud service. Maybe that's because as an IT admin, I know how often companies gets hacked and how youtube is full of videos of hacked webcams, etc.
With Octoprint, I don't feel like loosing anything that Astrobox offers. I can control the printer and view the webcam during print from anywhere as well. I just need to rely on my own VPN instead of exposing the printer to the cloud.
Having said all that, I do understand, that there are people, that are way less technically skilled and they don't probably even know how to setup VPN to connect to their home network from anywhere. These people want to buy a thing, that "just works" for them and Astrobox do offer that experience.
The use-case with AstroBox touch for kids is another good example of usefulness of this thing.
It is just obviously not targeted to the tinkerers who do like to hack things themselves, which are ,surprisingly ;-), huge part of Cheps audience.
Maybe the hate wouldn't be here in the comments, if Chep had clearly stated in the video, that Octoprint can do almost the same for half the price, but you need to build it yourself.
Actually the largest part of my audience are beginners who are still learning how to level a bed and get their first printer working. Just look at the thumbs up to thumbs down in this video alone. .
And the point of the video was: instead of buying a $300 small printer with the wireless capability built in, you can buy a $200 unit you can plug into any printer you want.
I purposely didn’t include the Octoprint comments to avoid confusion for that target audience.
The video delivered what I wanted it to deliver.
It’s great that those more technically experienced watched and I really appreciate that. Some were great comments. But a portion we’re awfully antagonistic and that attitude often causes confusion for beginners and makes them retreat and that is what bothers me the most. Fortunately many of my audience still watched and at the end of it all understood my message.
@@FilamentFriday Then I fit right into that largest part of your audience. With having my first 3D printer (Ender 3) since Christmas, I am definitely still a "beginner who are still learning how to level a bed"" :-)
That doesn't necessary mean, I lack technical skills. I just totally lack any experience and skills around 3D printing and that's why I love your videos!
Keep up the good work and ignore those haters.
Some people are simply not smart enough to see out of the box, they are living in. The fact, that they like to build things themselves for cheap, doesn't mean Astrobox is bad product. This view is dumb and shortsighted...
it costs as much or more than the ender 3. Can't see how this would be better than just picking up another printer. it's cool, but let's not forget it's just a raspberry pi with web integration and an app.
And again, I would say, did that include a touch screen, a memory card, or the programming ?It is not just a Rasberry Pi with an app.
@@echobeefpv8530 the "programing" is free, sd cards are far cheaper than the raspberry pi, and a touch screen seems useless if the whole point of the 200$ box is app control. It is exactly that, a raspberry pi with an app, you can see this for yourself, they allow you to download JUST the software for your own raspberry pi. Do any of these features make your 3d printer more reliable? easier to use? I'd argue they don't. This 200$ purchase doesn't include a much more important feature (than a touch screen): the camera module. Without a camera to monitor your print, you'll never know if that print you started via app has failed midway through, or didn't stick to the bed etc.
Every niche hobby has products designed to look flash and cool and separate the money from your pocket. There is very little advantage to spending money on this, when you can set it up yourself for a quarter the price, and for less than half the cost set it up right with a camera. Lets not also forget that the ender 3 sucks via USB, overly complicated commands and prints will stall and bottleneck the printer, because it can't read over the very slow serial port as quickly as it can SD. and if you had a printer that works better over USB you're still back at the square one of: why not just build this yourself? You can go through the tedious steps of setting up a 3d printer and maintaining it, but you can't flash software to an SD card and plug in some wires?
Hey! Thanks for the tip! Congrats for the channel! Very useful!
Thank you for taking the time to make this fantastic video Chuck. We really appreciate this. It would be great if you connected astroboxes to all of those printers behind you and tell us about your experience running a whole printer farm with astroprint. That's when we believe the benefits of the system really start to add up :)
But that would show why vanilla Octoprint is better than Astroprint. Octoprint can connect to multiple printers.
Great video !!! Lots saying you can build it yourself, and they are right, except this is a plug and play solution, not a DIY . Expensive, because someone else put it all together and made it easy. Makes perfect sense; but if you like to tinker, go the Rasberry Pi method. If not, this is at least another easy to use option.
Just use octoprint on raspberry pi 3...
Thanks for the video.
Just started using octoprint / octopi. I really like it.
Have you found a way to pause print / fillament change without the disabled steppers after 60 sec. My z axis runs very smooth and just by the disabling of steppers it lowers.
Cheers Michael
Super awesome app! I plan on doing something with this in the near future!
Nice options 👍
Thanks for sharing👍😀
There is also a plug-in for octoprint that allows you to do this with AstroPrint without buying the kit
Could you make a video explaining how to calibrate or rather balance retraction and coasting? :) My prints ends up having lots of zits because of possible oozing, but don't know what setting does what the best for my issues with a detailed model piece.
Holy Crap CHEP, that's awesome.
Is there anyway to use your phone to control your software wirelessly to make prints like a controller app for Cura or something?
About 2 years ago I used AstroPrint on a simple and cheap Raspberry PI 3 (and even on a RPI Zero, but that didn't work smooth). I was even able to run 2 printers from one Raspberry Pi whit it.
Now, what is the difference between this expensive box and the 'old' way of using AstroPrint on the RPI?
Nice video, man!!
So might be a dumb question but through the phone app when remote monitoring can you make it stop printing?
This is old. Go with this instead. th-cam.com/video/QEgZqpJFFl0/w-d-xo.html
Keep it up!
Nice video thanks! Two questions, can you send gcode sliced in S3D to the printer through the astrotouch? Second can you record video or do stop motion like octoprint?
Thanks
Yes on both questions! Astrobox is built on Octoprint, so its core function is almost identical. The API hasn't been exposed the same, so you can't send a file directly to it, the way you can from Slic3r. But you can preslice and load any gcode file from any slicer. It can also record time lapse video, or take snap shots. Unfortunately, it doesn't yet do the awesome Octolapse time lapses.
I may have missed it but, can you "print wirelessly (sp?) from your desktop" using this box? I'm not interested in the cloud part.
Very cool!
Hi I wanted to ask is there a way to shut down your 3d printer away from home because I do get scared leaving it on and I know your not supposed to. But I really do want to keep watch on it the camera I can get but I don't know what's the best way to turn it off away from home
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It looks a little more user friendly to set up vs octoprint on a raspberry pi but at 4 times the price i'd expect it to plug its self in as well! Octoprint is free to use and with all of the downloadable features it is fantastic, so i cant see why almost anyone would want this.
Chuck, I really love you channel and your content. I have to point out however, that anything connected to the Ender 3 via USB, including Octoprint (which I use in monitoring mode) or the Astrobox, will have a major limitation due to the USB port being a very crappy serial port that is inherently slow. Any complex geometry that requires a large amount of G-code to be transmitted at speed to the printer over that port, will potentially put the machine into a wait state since the buffer cannot keep up with the code over the port. This is why many people have reported better quality prints from the SD card on the machine. It operates at a much faster read speed and does not suffer from the same buffering problem. This is well documented in the Octoprint forums and is not something that is Octoprint or Astrobox's fault, however, it is a limitation depending on print speed and complexity. People will say "I have never had a problem", however, this is a well known limitation of the USB port in the Octoprint community. Anyone who has ever used Octoprint to transmit a file to the machines SD card (not the SD card in a Raspberry Pi), can understand the performance limitations of the USB port. If I spent a couple of hundred bucks on an Astrobox, without understanding this limitation, I would be somewhat disapointed. Just thought it should be pointed out. Thanks for all you do for the community! For more detail see this thread: www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/90r69u/octoprint_vs_sdcard_print_quality/
I have had this issue controlling the Ender 3 out of a very fast PC via Cura. Can this be overcome by switching to an MKS GEL L board?
I believe all 8 bit boards and even some 32 bit boards from China have this issue, however, I cannot say with 100% certainty. Their is a reason that the Duet boards are so highly rated and have a price that reflects that.
@@balls2bone Then you never had the problem we are discussing. It has nothing to do with the PSU or gantry grounding issues. It is related to the amount of g-code being sent over the USB port and the speed at which the printer can respond.
Can you use a phone for a ender 5 pro??
When I print crucial parts of my mechanic project, I like to be not far from my printers in case there's a problem. Can't figure out how to extinguish a fire from my phone whatsoever, or stop a print in emergency. I don't trust IoT, internet of things in its state of the Art. However I appreciate your complete demo.
nice vido.. great info
Where can i buy one
Hey Chuck, you should try making the mulbot printer on thingiverse. It looks neat and I think that would be an entertaining video.
based on octoprint?
This remains me the mks pad 7
Woah holy crap I actually need this
Buy a raspberry pi and download their distro and it can be yours for about $45 (for now)
@@nthn- Would it be able to monitor my print from Android, download files straight from Thingiverse, and slice them on my phone?
@@nthn- I'm not that good with programming raspberry pies and installing it on my cr-10 S4 and S5. That's at Orioles they have seemed a little Greek to me.
@@balls2bone but don't you have to connect it to the motherboard all of the 3D printer?
Do you need to do a firm ware update or download the lates version of marlin
Marlin is the latest firmware. Creality has a version of it.
Love your videos but its way too pricey for me, I have no problems with just popping my SD card in and out of the ender 3 Pro, I also like to tweak the files in Cura a lot so no im out on this one and I have the same webcam on my printer and I just watch it remotely through Teamviewer which is free.
Can you get rid of the original lcd screen after installing astroprint? bit troublesome having 2 screens!
Not sure.
@@FilamentFridayThanks. But so what happens if you unplug the ender 3 screen? Could it technically work?
Yeah, it will work. You’ll just lose access to some functionality.
So would you still recommend the cr10 mini over the ender 3?
I like them both. For a larger build area CR-10 Mini is a great Printer. All depends on what you need/want in build size. For $179, the Ender 3 is an amazing Printer.
@@FilamentFriday yeah, I was all set to go with a CR-10 mini. Then Amazon had a one day deal on the Ender 3 from SainSmart with Free Prime 2 day shipping for $179.99 ! The best price I ever found on the CR-10 mini was $272 and change from Banggood... USA shipping but no 2 days! A week, so still good. But, for me, it simply wasn't worth the extra almost $100 !!!
The Ender 3 printed perfect from my first print! PERFECT! The new versions are so dialed in it's amazing... No fiddling or tinkering anymore!!! Plus, the slightly larger bed wasn't worth it, for me. Just not that much difference... And I haven't needed that extra bed size YET! 😎🤘
Do I need the astrobox to print with my phone, or can I just put it on an SD card and put it in
You can always just print from an SD card.
@@FilamentFriday BUT you don’t just download a print file on a blank SD card, do you? Don’t you need some kind of software on your phone or IPad to read the file? Forgive me, I am BRAND SPANKING NEW to this! BTW, love your channel 👍
This explains it: th-cam.com/video/FahVngvlhoY/w-d-xo.html
Whats a recommended 3D printer for someone new to 3D printing
Ender 3 series. I also like the Ender 2.
Just wondering how much memory does the astrocloud can you store is there paid cloud service or is it free to expand the memory
What is the biggest thing you need to setup with the Astro to make it work with your ender 3
The free version gives you 2gb of cloud storage, which is quite a bit. Once files are sliced, they can be transferred to the Astrobox for storage, and free up the cloud space, if needed. The $100 a yr plan gives you 50gb. But probably the main reason to pay would be the ability to add more then 2 printers to your account.
Only thing you need to get going is a Raspberry Pi, micro SD card, and a USB cable. It is very easy to setup.
The product looks great, but the price is way too steep
they show how to make the 90 one with a rasp pi
however less documentation than octoprint means //fun// troubleshooting. was running in circles just to try it
but at the end of the day there's there's limited slicer control-better viewed from desktop than on a phone since you *can't edit slicer settings from the mobile app*
I think 3D printers instead of a Physical screen/controller just should give a possibilty to connect with android, ios. I hardly doubt any person who buy a 3D printer does not own any of these device. Its ok if you want to have a dedicated tft screen on your printer, but then again there are many options out there.
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Will you be at MRRF this year? Please say yes, I love your show and think it would be awesome to see you IRL would love a CHEP sticker for my printer!
Yes, I’ll be there.
@@FilamentFriday awesome, I'm so excited, I cant wait lol
What's the difference between this and octoprint with the raspberry pi?
Different companies attempting the same thing.
Would this work for the ender 3 V2?
Haven’t tried it.
@@FilamentFriday oh because I got mine today and have been trying to get it working so if you could in the future help me out thanks chuck
@@FilamentFriday also could you try to do it and let me know the results because I got my raspberry pi and might need to return it if it does not work
Can anyone confirm it works? I’m looking to buy the ender 3 V2 soon but this is fairly important to me.
Really interesting gadget, man. Really useful!
But at that price? 😬
Well, a Raspberry Pi 3B+ with octoprint will cost me below $50 and i'll be able to connect multiple printers or cameras to it and administer everything from any web browser.
Sure, it's a lot more hassle to set up and maybe not quite as simple and comfortable to use, also no cloud support, but if you have an Ender 3, you are looking for budget performance and not ease of use. And let's be honest, who really cares about cloud functionality anyways?
You don't have to buy the astroprint box you can just download the software from their website and put it on any raspberry pi, I used octoprint before but I like astroprint much more because of the nicer looking GUI
You can build your own
Am I able to stop print wirelessly from my phone. I see that you can start prints. But in case it fails I want to be able to stop printing. In case I get a giant blob of plastic stuck to my thermo again hahaha
Yes
It doesn't seem available anymore 😕
Just get a wifi box
Much cheaper, and before you say no its not mobile only, there is a cura plugin
It's just a raspi in a plastic case with a tiny touchscreen... And $199 for that?!
And how much is a Raspberry Pi right now?
@@FilamentFriday a new 3B is about 120€, can get one used for 68€... So still not worth it. And raspi is not the only one solution, there are many other SBCs that can manage the same tasks and even faster for lower price
They show you how to make one: astroprint.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/sections/360004614412-AstroBox-Touch
@@FilamentFriday thanks man👍🏻
It wont read any of my gcodes
what if the printer doesn't have a boot loader?
Doesn’t need it to communicate. Only to program.
Seems a bit pricey to me for what it does. Thanks for the review.
You cab build your own for much cheaper. The base Astrobox is no more expensive than Octoprint.
I am looking for something that will use my local wifi to allow me to send gcode to my ender3(s). Dont care to use the cloud, or have it slice for me. I am just tired to xfering sd cards all over the place :)
Same here, 10 printers tired of SD cards and I’ve tried every management software out there. I think? I want an stl and gcode library so I can have more of a file description then the damn file name, and just be able to send Gcode to whatever printer I want? Is that too much to ask? :-)
Use a raspberry pi 3 or just connect the printer directly to your computer
Looks great. But a bit pricey.
CHEP for shark tank 2020. Now that I would endorse!
To address everyone that is bringing up the fact that rasp pi and octoprint is cheaper, well, I'd like to say this is for people who don't want to learn how to set all that up, but if that's the case, what are they doing with a 3D printer? Lol
Я ничего не понял, но вроде познавательно, спасибо!
OUCH $200! Thanks but convenience should NOT cost that much... I pass! Given like you said it can be built for $65 it shows just how greedy they are over there at AstroPrint and they just got added to my red flag, avoid at all cost list! Regardless, thanks a ton for the review!
All fun and games till the company goes into the red and their Cloud gets too expensive to run. Then bye bye!
Couldn’t they just offer a subscription service?
Maybe like first or something IDK
i just want to print right now but not a single video on youtube will tell me how!!!......
This might help: th-cam.com/video/FahVngvlhoY/w-d-xo.html
I know you addressed it already but the cost of this thing is way way far out. I understand the need to make money but @ 200$ 300% markup is just flippen nuts. I would say the manufacture needs to find income someplace else. I cant see to many of us 3d printer people jumping onto this 200$ octoprint mod when you can buy a printer cheaper then the price of this device or even as you state just making a octoprint @ 1/4th the cost. Even though they sent you the item for free. If you would have to spend your hard earned money @200$ for this you still would recommend this unit?
For someone considering the Toybox, or Modt or Mattel type Printer at around $300 for a non heated small bed printer then the Ender 3 and $99 Astroprint Gateway and Ender 3 ($279 total) or $379 with touch seems competitive.That is a portion of my audience.
For those that like to hack their own together, you can definitely save money.
If someone is not interested or doesn’t have the time to build one but wanted a plug and play solution version of Octoprint Touch ready to use out of the box, where could they buy it and what would it cost?
why would i buy something that is just as much as the printer? lol
steven torres yea i was just looking at that as well. pretty unfortunate but that’s how these new things go.
uh, flashforge? lol There are other options out there. I think youre not looking at value but more of a product that was given to you too review. There are a few printers that have those functionalities for under 500$ But this is splitting hairs, thanks for vid chip
finder is 300$ with cloud and cam. IF we're looking at this from a budget friendly perspective, still would make more sense to get something that is all-in-one and not something you'd have to buy from multiple parties. But each their own. If the video is aimed towards someone who already made the decision to get the Ender 3 and wanted extra features after the fact, sure...seems like a good deal. BUT for people that haven't bought a 3d printer yet, id rather buy an all-in-one. Check out flashforge Finder
You can roll your own for much cheaper, purchasing is just one option. Personally, we rolled our own, and it greatly enhanced the experience of using the Ender. Let's be honest, the Ender's built in controls are pretty clunky.
100 bucks... Fuck that
You can literally make your own for about less than $50
Wait so all you need is an ipad no expensive computer
Well I dont have internet where I live
Then how are you commenting this
NOT interested in inserting my PHONE into the process. I want Windows access to my Ender 3.
Or, you can do what I did... I don't need all of these touch features and fancy gizmos...plus, way, way to expensive and Octoprint is way to complicated, IMO. 🤔😳🤯
I did get tried of walking back and forth with my micro sd card, about 20 feet each way in a C shape, to get to my computer. I thought... "is it really about the micro sd being so small and needing it to be converted to a full size SD card, OR about having to go back and forth to the computer... Over and over and over again, etc.???" 🤔It's the back and forth! Do I need wireless? No, not when it cost such a high proportionate price of the printer! So, I ordered a 15' USB extention cable for a USA seller on ebay for $6.75 ! Couple of days to get here and 5 minutes to install... Less actually. Done. Now I can plug the USB extention cable into my computer and route it over to my printers. I printed a mount and it's now mounted on the side of my desk right next to my printers! Pop out the card, pop it right into the USB to micro sd card adapter and into the extension cable! Simple and perfect... For me! No high priced, convoluted installation and products! 👍
If I want a camera, they have security cameras now that work with a free app on your phone! Those cameras have motorized swivel to go up/down, and side to side for as low as $16.99 and are 1080p resolution...See Banggood. Awesome reviews too! I can see BOTH of my printers from the same camera and adjust the angle perfectly...and vuew frim my HD phone in 1080p perfection!
Wired is always better than wireless and all those steps and convoluted process to install Octoprint or even the extremely overpriced Astroprint touch is not needed, and just more headache than I wish to go through! That's me... I just want to print. Some will like all of that stuff... Tge more complicated and feature rich the better, but it's not the simple way I like to keep things so it's not such a continual hassle to troubleshoot. Maybe it's actually reliable? But, the more stuff, the typically less reliable. I don't need or want that... For me!
Simple and low cost too. Often found to be the best for me. 😎🤘
you talk alot.
@@mrbdrm2 you don't say much
Why not just plug in your computer direct to printer via usb and do away with the sd card altogether?
Because then your computer is tied up and if it ever goes to sleep it stops the print.
@@FilamentFriday Not if it is a dedicated laptop. Any speed concerns printing directly from the laptop compared to sd that you are aware of?
I just don't see the practicality of printing from you phone.
I think it's more the monitoring. You can monitor long prints when you are away and you get push notifications when your print is finished.
It would be good for people without a pc, or people who aren't home alot.
@@franksmith7271 who owns a 3d printer but not a laptop/pc?!
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my ender 3 died today uncle :(.
Pretty sure you can repair that baby
Yeah... I just can't see it! Pay that much for an Astroprint touch or for ANOTHER ENDER 3? I'd never pay for something that cost more than my printer did... I don't dare how co0ol it is! Sorry, too much dough! 😒
This price is a joke. I built a tinker board based OctoPrint together with an 8 mega pixel camera, a 7 inch high res touch screen for LESS than this, and I thought my build was expensive. Tinker board is a Pi on steroids, with a faster arm core, a more powerful graphics core, and eMMC storage with no SD card. I would never trust these cloud services.
The software is free for pi so......
kazolar make a video daawwwwwggggg
How much was your build?
@@scootroter4859 right around $180 -- I thought it was pricey, considering I have an 8mp camera and a 7 inch touch screen..
@@MrToetoheel i tend to just make things, instead of doing videos about making things, which takes 3 times longer. Eventually I'd like to share stuff in video form, but I'm too disorganized to do that.
No no no ! Stop put cloud everywhere. The type of people which use printer are smart and technicialy more advanced...this people want a self hosted web service pffffff
Wow Chuck you have lost all credibility in my eyes. You sold your sole to the astrobox and then delete comments from viewers, last video of yours I watch!
I deleted my own comments to post a single pinned comment and didn’t realize some responses would follow. I’m sorry. I don’t typically delete comments unless it’s hurtful to kids seeing or bad language.
Everyone deserves an opinion.
Again sorry. My mistake.
And I truly do like the Astrobox Touch.
@@FilamentFriday Hmm I don't remember seeing you in videos wearing rose tinted glasses yet you seem to have had them on when writing that reply. Here is what happened, you pinned your own comment about how great this was and challenging people to come up with an alternative solution under this extortionate price. About fifteen or more viewers responded and they were not all positive so you deleted your comment and silenced them.
@@dmail00 geez, find a hobby, away from Internet...
Sad sad video... Very unfortunate...