The MCU Has Become Extremely Unoriginal
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*I had a MF throw personal insults at me* cos I said Hawkeye was a boring character before Endgame.
People are weird, I had the opposite happen cause I said moonknight wasn't that bad of a show lol
@jhostjhost453 Yeah people get way too defensive and offensive about entertainment - like I disagree about your opinion on Moon Knight but I’m not gonna go and call you “stupid” or “get your shit together before you comment again” which is what a dude said to me.. it’s just ridiculous people get this wound up about stuff.
What did Hawkeye even do after Endgame?????
@SHAKE-S-PIERRE by himself? Nothing. They backseat'd him behind the other backseat character, Black Widow.
@@firstlast9846 yeah I miss the good ol days when you could have an opinion about something and just have a civil debate instead of arguing why so and so is bad and not give it a chance
Nah fans been asking for Hugh’s Wolverine and Ryan’s Deadpool to link up for years. We can’t call it a cash grab now when they give it to us.
I feel like it should introduce an x-23, though. I need X-23 to be an R Rated character because she's more Savage than (current) Logan much more like Team X Logan.
It definitely is though, it's just nostalgia bait.
@@jgcoverkknot5701 This is why we can’t have nice things😂If fans have been asking for something for a decade and then someone as passionate as Ryan gives it to them; how is just simply be a cash grab? Just because something is nostalgic doesn’t automatically make it bate.
@@jgcoverkknot5701 Now you're just being stupid.
@@javarilacet5574 Its just calling it what it is, if people demand for a road to be built and its built 10 years later when the people in charge don't know what else to do to make the people happy, ofc some of the people with a broader mindset will see it like it is
Deadpool and Wolverines entire purpose is to give an actual final send off to the FOX Marvel characters. Thats why Wolverine is back as well as a bunch of past xmen characters and more
If anyone’s tired of mid MCU projects, check X-Men 97. That show is insanely good.
yes ! these folks don’t know what they’re missing
For factual
It’s great.
And that flopped too.
@@sincerelynotme3522misinformation spreader
Deadpool and Wolverine is gonna be awesome.
Hopefully
Ngl, I felt the same about Spider-Man NWH being a cash grab. That plot was childish af
Wait, there's an Everybody hates Chris reboot coming out????
Oh my god, I'm done... -_-
Alright I'm gonna say it.... Disney buying MCU is the reason it's trash. They are formatting current movies more like Disney products than Marvel products. The direction lines up with Disney core focus, not what made Marvel movies popular
Bro Disney is the reason the mcu even exist marvel
Disney bought Marvel in 2008 and created the MCU in the first place. The reason why the MCU is failing now is because of DEI practices, little to no talent behind the camera, disassociation with general audiences, overblown budgets, and the wrong stories being adapted and told. And this is also the case with many other film franchises like the Sony Marvel productions which seem to be on the right track considering that Phil Lord and Chris Miller who wrote the Spiderverse movies are now in charge of them.
Mass produced content is almost never good. And they made a TON of movies where the normal marvel studio took their time.
The issue with the mcu now is that there’s so much going on and it’s leading to nothing seemingly. At this point in phase one we had the avengers. I think there’s just too much setup and not enough execution.
Nga yall jus not patient 💀 yall expect ground breaking stories one after the next when we simply need to introduce new characters to an already expanded universe. Yall want secret wars and things like that which require a long set up. Can’t jus have that battle come up after 4 movies💀
@@justo9056 that's the issue, people expect infinity war/endgame every movie or something with 0 build up when there are new and bigger threats and other people introduced who will be there to deal with it.
@@falicerno it’s because marvel is trying to do too much at once, dropping a million shows with no actual payout. 2008 we had iron man, by 2012 we had avengers with amazing built up films before. So far with these new phases, shit ain’t led anywhere
@@justo9056I can’t speak for everyone, but from what I understand, most people want to know who are the next group of Avengers and what’s their goal. A lot of the recent Marvel projects have been lots of setup, but the payoff is more setup. The Black Widow movie is a prime example of this because it only exists to set up the Hawkeye show. On the other hand, you don’t need to watch Civil War to understand what Black Panther’s story is. You can watch Black Panther by itself the same way you can watch any other standalone Marvel film that isn’t the Avengers.
We have setup for the Thunderbolts, the Eternals & Sentry, Echo, Blade, Black Knight, but all of it seems disconnected. Phase 1 set up the Avengers ending in a conflict with a big bad guy. Phase 2 had fewer introductions, but focused more on developing the Infinity Stones. Phase 3 was a mix of both phases 1 & 2 and ended with the climactic battle of endgame. Phase 4 has tons more introductions and setup than Phase 1, but no conclusion to pull it back together. Same goes for Phase 5 so far.
@@justo9056 yall marvel fans sound like one piece fans “once you get to episode 400 then it gets really crazy” (one piece fan btw). I understand that there’s a long set up but endgame was 5 years ago. It don’t need this grandiose final movie but as a casual marvel fan I would like to know what we’re building towards then I would be all on board with whatever.
How is Thanos being a Simp for death and also being a psycho better than him just being a psycho
Yea, unless they were going to introduce her. Then I don't see the point in saying it's for love.
Saying “Loki saved the marvel universe” is outrageous lmao the show itself is solid but it’s tied to the larger universe ruins it
They created the loki show to set up kaang 😂
In the show he literally saves the Marvel Universe
@@SHAKE-S-PIERRE he’s clearly talking figuratively but you got it homie lol
@@RodoFoolboyTV You the one that said it was outrageous bruh🤷🏿♂️
@Tonystatovci_11 😂😂
@SHAKE-S-PIERRE Technically, he doesn't. He saves the multiverse but the only multiverse characters are in Loki.
Deadass I stopped watching Loki after season 1. Shang Chi was good but as an Asian, I’m willing to admit I’m biased as fuck.
shang chi is objectively fire
@@bksaviorable I’m glad I’m not being biased, I loved that shit.👌🏽😮💨
Shang Chi was solid and would still hold up when compared to the earlier mcu movies imo
Loki season 2 is 🔥 though
Loki Season 2 was actually beautiful
There is no iteration of doctor Strange that takes out the strongest version of the scarlet witch, granted I do think Strange could’ve had a better performance in terms of magic in the movie.
If I’m not mistaken he didn’t do that in the movie either
In the original script for Multiverse of Madness, Stephens trauma was supposed to be explored more and his magic would have more complex spells (a fight scene between him and Wanda on the same lake Stephens late sister was in. Scott Derrickson had a creative mind and was unfortunately held back by marvel, along with him tapping out the last minute.
I was done with mcu after infinity war that made hulk a bitch for real. 2008 was a good start, the first avengers was good because it made him a dawg. Then he gets bitched by Thanos? Didn't bro go band for band against Sentry and they both crashed out. Naw the soiled it.
Yeah it’s fucked up that everyone got their get back on Thanos in Endgame except Hulk. Almost walked out the theater
@@SHAKE-S-PIERREyou should have universal doesn’t wanna give up the character
To be fair with mad max, it’s all from the orignal creator. He has planned these movies out for years and years. It ain’t some cash grab
Nah I disagree with the deadpool x wolverine one, its does look cash grabby when you put two dope characters collaborating together but deadpool has a lot of crossovers that I would love to see in live action.
they experimented with new series and streaming services. next 10 years will release less, but better content. the strike didnt help either.
I think they need to reach more into the comics but also build on those characters. Gorr was literally the way the MCU could have introduced Venom and other symbiotes to the franchise. So many fumbled opportunities.
Wakanda Forever, No way home, and GOTG3 were all elite to me
Me personally I disagree with a new wolverine being needed for this new Deadpool movie, yea it’s a cashgrab plain as day, but with Ryan reynolds also being a writer, he fought so hard just to get that first Deadpool movie the chance of being made, he deserves to let his vision happen, he proved those execs wrong after the Deadpool demo trailer “leaked”. I can only respect that man and his passion for this character
Iron Heart was like half of Black Panther 2's plot. The thing is nobody gives a flying fuck about Iron Heart or any of those other young avengers characters to be putting them into such heavy roles out of nowhere in these movies.
I’ll never forgive how badly they did Gorr, that character was done so badly. And the fact that they ain’t recast T’Challa. That along with like 90% of trash that Marvel has put out since Endgame just shows how far the quality has fallen to.
I don’t think they should’ve recast T’Challa. Chadwick Boseman was Black Panther, almost as much as Robert Downey Jr was Iron Man. You can’t replace that and it not be a distraction at the very least. Everything else you said I agree with tho.
Gorr was THE shit in the comics. I didn't watch the movie, I just watched the scenes on here and he felt so watered down. I feel the same way about Namor("N'Amooor").
They better not even approach Knull
@@johnoparinde2682right
@@rashodmasters4299 exactly
@@johnoparinde2682 go to hell with that bs, it’s cuz of y’all that these movies suck lmao
MCU Thanos had authoritarian stepdad energy, the kind who’s listened to every episode of the Joe Rogan podcast and thinks Ben Shapiro “has some good points sometimes”
Maybe you should take a break from politics buddy.
You need to get off the internet bud
some of these opinions kinda mid ngl
These are the same ppl that’s gonna watch Deadpool and wolverine.
@@iam_ad629why tf wouldn’t we watch it, get a grip dude
@@TheAdminastration if marvel is trash then why would ppl want to watch trash ??? Unless ppl have been overreacting about the MCU 🤷🏾💯
@iam_ad629 the MCU is declining. Doesn't mean they don't have the potential/ability to put out good product.
@@Massey2332 that makes no sense. Look at the DCEU. They made one or two good movies and started declining. Then they rebooted everything
X-Men 97 kicks ass
Started out that way
"The Eternals was way better than Love and Thunder" is an absolutely wild take to me. Eternals was complete ass imo. Love and Thunder was poor because it destroyed one of Marvel's best recent villains, but it was at least fun. It also had the "it was Korg retelling the story to kids" excuse for why it was so silly.
After GOTG3 I just stopped caring about MCU despite being a big marvel fan. Vol 3 was the last good movie I'll ever expect out of the MCU
I used to be such a heavy fanatic, but now I could give a damn about the MCU, there’s a few good marvel creations like the new X-Men 97 show and Loki. I’ve always been a fan of Deadpool and Wolverine so I’ll definitely watch that movie, but I TRULY BELIEVE the second snap in endgame was the perfect opportunity to bring in all the Fox properties…. Marvel didn’t see that though, they just wanted to capitalize on their planned tv shows which all flopped. I want to clarify I did watch the TV shows and The only thing I didn’t finish was Miss Marvel… to me they ALL just genuinely fell flat and don’t compare to the movies. Marvel did an exceptional job of watering down their IP. It’s been 5 years since the end of the Avengers. RIP
Genuinely think people would have enjoyed the eternals more if it were a show there were so many things that needed more building but got rushed since it was a movie but I def don’t think it’s was as horrible as people were making it out to be
I wonder if we will ever see Lady Death properly on MCU
The best villains in the MCU were all sympathetic or relatable villains. Loki, Zemo,Vulture, Killmonger, the Mandarin, hell even Thanos.
We love you Tony ❤️
Bro I’m trying to watch this whole conversation, what live is this?
Not huge on anime but really fw your content your halirous dude ‼️ would love more marvel content tho 😂
I've been watching Danny Phantom and I've been noticing things they did that the MCU did years later. Dark Danny says "I am inevitable," they straight up ripped off the Infinity Gauntlet from Marvel comics, they used it to erase the world's memory of Danny's identity just like they did in the ending of No Way Home. I cant think of anymore off the top of my head but I think there are more
Shang chi was visually great but the writing/dialog was very below average.
Jackman did say he wants to work with Tobey McGuire, so fingers crossed
10:13 tht was my comment he read😭I was acknowledged
I haven’t watched any of these movies. I gave up long ago. That said, without context you saying you didn’t like American tripped me out. I was like, “we still reviewing movies?” Apparently someone had the name America
Bruh. Unrelated, but god damn everyone was hating on zack snyder but atleast his storyline was different. Now DC is a copy of Marvel. Its sad cause I loved man of steel, best superhero movie ever imo. The batman by Matt Reeves would be an alternate first.
Ur videos hit
Thanos wanted to create “balance” simply because of the eternal (if you watched it) it did suck to not have lady death though
The reason why the MCU is failing now is because of DEI practices, little to no talent behind the camera, disassociation with general audiences, overblown budgets, and the wrong stories being adapted and told. And this is also the case with many other film franchises like the Sony Marvel productions which seem to be on the right track considering that Phil Lord and Chris Miller who wrote the Spiderverse movies are now in charge of them.
As much as i am tired of reboots i gotta say 70 to 90% of them are for the newer audiences and not for the older versed audiences, so while its a money thing, its also a "we not looking at your money" thing
Haven’t watched marvel since civil war
They basically want to erase our childhood memories
Video Games as well. its like a loop
Throwing Furiosa out as an example at the beginning wasn't it tho, George Miller wrote that before Fury Road.
"Has become"? It's been like that for years now.
Marvel basically has been going since the 60s. Think about that from a month to month basis. From the last 60 years people only remember a hand full of stories because of that one big moment. But really most of those stories are so similar that they can summarize 8 for a movie. Just be lucky we weren’t getting the same stories up to now in the MCU (in the moment people were saying the movies were the same ). I mean, look at how many year one Batman and Superman movies we’ve gotten from DC.
hugh came back as a variant, theres gonna be multiple actors playing wolverine variants but im sure we’ll see mcu wolverine in dp3
Loki straight up is the only thing that gives me hope that Marvel could be good after endgame
I fell off from caring about the mcu after infinity war, even endgame didn’t hit for me and ive not enjoyed anything since then
Tony I would like to respectfully disagree on MCU. Don’t get me wrong it’s not at its best but phase 4 was not that bad. Some great movies like (Shang Chi, Eternals, Wakanda Forever, No way home, Gotg 3,) were over shadowed by trash/mid movies but Loki and Wanda Vision were great shows (moon knight was decent in my opinion) but MCU is not just god awful as people make it
Icarly reboot was pretty good compared to the og
The Chris Hemsworth thing sounds a bit more like Louis body dementia which is stress related and fast working dementia that can be developed without genetic predisposition. I may be talking out my ass but he seems too young for Alzheimer’s symptoms so I’d think Louis body. My grandma had it and that stuff is vicious. She was in her early 60s when she passed from it and it made her go from taking care of my lil bro and me in freshman year to us taking care of her in my senior year.
Anime won't water down bc there's alot of freedom, there's so many types of manga/anime you can write so I think the creativity will only get better. Yeah there are some that are more mainstream than others but you can still enjoy it for yourself that's the best part
Multiverse of madness was definitely a filler movie, I remember almost nothing about it. Which is crazy because Wanda & Dr. Strange are both really interesting characters, that was just pure bad writing for no reason.
I disagree heavily with the villian take
Its almsot like none of the stories are original because they are all based of other works of fiction. It literally cant be original otherwise it wouldnt be marvel.
I got an anime hot take. What about them doin some original art styles like 90s anime. Shonen is so unoriginal now. It’s the same story every time. Like I’m tired of having training arcs. I get the point of shonen but even the animation look the same. Cuz why every character I see now look like kirito
I feel like a lot of the remakes/reboots/prequels/sequels are just like some weird ass fanfiction or something cause the plots don't make any sense sometimes and it all feels so very cheesy and lame like I just want some original shit that still bangs
I feel like Marvel is going to over correct and get way too dark and gritty for too long and will have to go in the opposite direction again in like 5 years
6:44 they are so right
iron man movies wouldnt be the same nowadays because marvel would be too scared to portray tony as a playboy
the 3 iron movies we got, we get a raw version of tony
he is flawed
he has money problems
he has many girls and its a huge flirt
if they made an iron movie today it would be full of silly jokes and goofy scenes. they would never dare do those sort of movies again
The mcu formula that they keep using is hurting them
Stop killing off every villain
And some villains are too big to be a one movie thing
Ultron got hoed. He’s way bigger than what we got and a single movie simply couldn’t do him enough justice.
Ronin got hoed too
Kang is disappointing ngl. He shouldn’t be getting beat by any man in ANY version of himself
And I feel this especially with Spider-Man. Why are we killing off mysterio? Spider-Man’s whole thing is he gets into antics with his villains on a regular and tries his best to stop them from harming themselves and others.
Saying Wolverine and Deadpool is a cash is crazy brother lol. Saying the MCU "going down" is sooooooo damn lazy man
the eternals was assssss, especially how they try to explain why they werent in game
Im tired. I been knew this woild happen. They no longer have ideas and are nkt laying their wrtiters. So now its live actions, remakes and book live actions. Its getting tired
People love them but the MCU Spidey movies show how dumbed down the universe has become in favor of “general accessibility”
Hot Take: Shang Chi was the most fucking boring agonizing Marvel movie experience I’ve ever had.
I wish that they did Percy Jackson remake better
I couldn’t stand America’s actress. She had Disney Theater kid energy. Her acting was terrible. And the whole movie is trying to fix her mess ups
Everything in endgame never happened in the comics so wdymbt...
6:12 bro says nah its not that then proceeds to say what tony says in a different way
Last thing I fucked with from marvel was Loki and Wanda Vision. Both was good as hell in my opinion. I think why all these movies is PG could also be because Marvel is owned by Disney.
Nah Deadpool and Wolverine, is gonna be a masterpiece, trust me Ryan wouldn’t have done it if it wasn’t for a good reason, even Feige is not holding back with it
Mcu is going down to non comic book fans cause yall don't like comic books. Watch yall jump on when x-men start coming
I disagree with the point of having to build up characters nobody knows, its all about how you execute these characters, for example iron man and gotg were not very well known before the movies came out, its just that the movie for eternals wasn't that good
Loki season 2 finale dilemma, was obvious from ep1 s2, SPOILER "we want to let the timeline infinitely grow, but we also wanna keep the mechanism keeping it small, like wtf they really have this aha moment at the end but it was obvious
Eh, it could pick up. X-Men 97 was awesome, Deadpool and Wolverine could be; and there’s reason to be hopeful about the new Fantastic Four and X-Men stuff. I hope they do.
Bro did not pay attention to Black Panther 2 at all lmao
bruhh i’m actually so tired of that thanos could have just doubled the resources take because brother literally look at our history when a population just gets double the resources the population booms and the economy, fails and people die and then the cycle just restarts. I’m not saying Thanos was right what I am saying is that just doubling the resources wouldn’t have solved the problem either.
How did BryceUp get all that hair that fast
The MCU should start doing more standalone projects that aren’t connected to a bigger universe, kinda like DC with Joker and The Batman. It’s turning into Hollywood’s One Piece (not referring to the quality before mfs start throwing fits) and I’m not tryna watch 100+ hours of movies and shows just to understand wtf is going on in the next Avengers movie.
Part of the reason I liked What If and X-Men ‘97 so much was because I could just watch them on their own.
Best prequel was about 5 episodes. The Ruroni Kenshin OVA was literally the best series I’ve ever seen in my life
Wrd that OVA put me on Kenshin and I've been hooked ever since
Tony forgetting ironheart is peak entertainment. If youve seen that movie. You laughed hard af at that. Lmao
8:05 these dudes lost me. after that loki comment dawg
I thought Loki was okay - I couldn’t really get into the 2nd season tho personally. I know some MF gonna take this as a personal insult.
@@firstlast9846 🙋♂️ i took that as a personal insult
Nah Deadpool’s not a cash grab they be tryna make it happen for a while now but couldn’t
ong!
na Loki was GAS
Shang-Chi was mid, also you could argue Thanos killed half of the population rather than making double, because sentient beings always misuse resources and end up dooming themselves. Just saying, if it was me I’m murkin everybody.
Dude hates Boruto because he only likes Naruto for Nostalgia not the actual story.
They keep remaking our childhood movies and shows cuz THEY KNOW we’ll go watch
but also those who have kids will take their kids to watch. Just cuz
They need to give up the comedy and make less world ending threats just make the dialog more serious and less comedic and make the heros save people more and I would rather have a Protagonist girlfriend/wife or a friend be put in danger and have their life at risk rather then the whole world multiversus or a city is a stake
I haven't watched anything MCU related since Endgame😭. I swear the only shit I be watching is anime lately.
ngl for Wanda they should've made it where she lived her dream world but the world was getting corrupted with her dark magic so that's why she had to stop and try to fix the universe but find's Loki fixing it for her after coming in contact with TVA. All the new characters were wack, Ms. marvel was lame, America Chavez could care less about her dumb ass powers. and the flop on Antman, including the dumb ass side story of the native American girl who was sidekick to kingpin. and to throw away badass characters like Ronin and Gorr including Thor, is just sad. Once Endgame came out I had a feeling it would be a big ass flop after because they killed the most goated character Iron man.
Hemsworth has been acting lol
mf put dune as an example of a spinoff. Bruh, there are already books. The plan was to do a movie for the entire story. Not a spinoff, just moving to the next book.
The remade the craft what crack are the on