I think a big mistake people make is hoping OpenBSD can be a drop-in Linux replacement with extra security. It's use cases and goals are very different and it's community tends to be more minimalists with software usage (some projects just don't have the manpower to port or maintain). This however is not a reason to put down the project as "inferior", the shiny toys on Linux are not necessary for essential computer operations, even though their proponents will try to convince you they are. My solution is just use Linux if you need those things so badly, using OpenBSD means you have an interest in the goals, vision and engineering that the developers have.
I agree for the most part and also with using the best tools for the job. However, OpenBSD is not flawless. It has some problems that should be addressed, ideally. In the video, I didn't talk much about OpenBSD architecture or engineering as I think OpenBSD shines in those aspects, or at least I don't find fatal issues so far. Except for the slow USB speed. My main goal for creating this video is not to bash OBSD but to raise awareness so that people know what they get themselves into and have realistic expectations.
First off, thank you so much for uploading content related to OpenBSD. It's a wasteland out here when it comes to media supporting it. Puffy salutes you. Also there is some clicking and distortion on your audio recording. I've noticed it in a few of your videos. An example would be at 5:48. Not sure what's causing it, but thought I would let you know.
Thanks. Yes, that happened in this video more often than in others. The culprit is Kdenlive. Even saving the project, closing, opening, and rerendering didn't help. Honestly, I was exhausted and didn't want to go through the entire editing process again by creating a new project and starting from scratch. So I had to upload it like that. But the original unedited recording was fine.
@@TheOpenBSDguy *shakes fist at Kdenlive* ✊ Hmm I'm not too familiar with editors via open sourced projects sadly. Hopefully the devs can work out the bug or maybe there's another software that can be used. 🧐 Thanks again for all your uploads m8
With regard to the hardware support, when comparing OpenBSD and FreeBSD - I have found that OpenBSD has better AC wireless performance with its stock drivers. I get 90mbps on OpenBSD, whereas I only get 20mbps on FreeBSD with my ThinkPad T480
thanks chad. the main pains i had to deal with was trying to get my files over from ext4. but no OBS and no good DAW is a pain. i had to get a new mic as usb was being weird with my head phones. for IDE i basicly had to build my own from nvim plugins. as i did not like the look or feel of anythings that work the games available seem decent. i just need friends and then convince them to hop on open arena
OpenBSD has good range of free/open source games. Unfortunately, the ones I used to play many years ago are proprietary, otherwise, I'm sure somebody would have ported them already. I'm especially interested in Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun, RedAlert, and Commandos 2
I have an IRL experience with better driver support on OpenBSD compared to FreeBSD. My wireless card is governed by ral driver on OpenBSD (RT3290), but the same driver on FreeBSD doesn't support it at all.
Lack of wine and linuxemu is not a shortcoming, it is something to be proud of. Developers do not need GUI programs for managing sound and network. Developers do not need any journaling filesystem; ext4 obviously is not an interest. Time spending on adding support for unneeded things (for developers) can be spend on improving the base system further, especially make use of more cpu cores and fixing bugs or enabling more security features.
Yes, I tested with two devices with USB 2 and 3. With USB 3, transferring a 100-meg file takes around 2 to 3 minutes on FAT32 and NTFS (flash drive and external HDD). With USB 2, the same storage units but a different laptop takes at least 5 minutes.
From my personal list of 'why I not use OpenBSD anymore', in addition to your list: * weird stupid issues which were resolved ages ago in Linux * Backspace-Delete bullshit And while bluetooth support can be complicated, not supporting open-sourced ext4 looks like a stupid politic decision. Screw it. To put it short, Linux is an evolution, OpenBSD is a creation. Let it die alone
@@SergeRibalchenko Windows 11 is unmaintainable. They can't fix it, it's soo buggy that it's unusable. If windows 12 goes the same direction it's going to be unusable entirely.
@@SergeRibalchenko Linux is likely going to be abandoned because it can no longer can be maintained. The Linux kernel has every shiny new fad tossed right in. Such as soystemD, flatpaks, proprietary DRM which could be spyware. I even heard that Linux is only slightly better for privacy and security than windows, When the BSDs were made. It was made with a concise agenda. They were trying to make it the most reliable and secure as possible that takes in the philosophy of UNIX. BSDs were known to remove source code, unlike the Linux kernel totally not adding a million lines of source code every year. 🤦
I think a big mistake people make is hoping OpenBSD can be a drop-in Linux replacement with extra security. It's use cases and goals are very different and it's community tends to be more minimalists with software usage (some projects just don't have the manpower to port or maintain). This however is not a reason to put down the project as "inferior", the shiny toys on Linux are not necessary for essential computer operations, even though their proponents will try to convince you they are. My solution is just use Linux if you need those things so badly, using OpenBSD means you have an interest in the goals, vision and engineering that the developers have.
I agree for the most part and also with using the best tools for the job. However, OpenBSD is not flawless. It has some problems that should be addressed, ideally. In the video, I didn't talk much about OpenBSD architecture or engineering as I think OpenBSD shines in those aspects, or at least I don't find fatal issues so far. Except for the slow USB speed.
My main goal for creating this video is not to bash OBSD but to raise awareness so that people know what they get themselves into and have realistic expectations.
Happy New Year! Keep up the outstanding OpenBSD content! It’s very much appreciated!
Thanks. Happy new year
Thanks for making this video! I’m still excited about using OpenBSD.
First off, thank you so much for uploading content related to OpenBSD. It's a wasteland out here when it comes to media supporting it. Puffy salutes you. Also there is some clicking and distortion on your audio recording. I've noticed it in a few of your videos. An example would be at 5:48. Not sure what's causing it, but thought I would let you know.
Thanks. Yes, that happened in this video more often than in others. The culprit is Kdenlive. Even saving the project, closing, opening, and rerendering didn't help. Honestly, I was exhausted and didn't want to go through the entire editing process again by creating a new project and starting from scratch. So I had to upload it like that. But the original unedited recording was fine.
@@TheOpenBSDguy *shakes fist at Kdenlive* ✊ Hmm I'm not too familiar with editors via open sourced projects sadly. Hopefully the devs can work out the bug or maybe there's another software that can be used. 🧐 Thanks again for all your uploads m8
With regard to the hardware support, when comparing OpenBSD and FreeBSD - I have found that OpenBSD has better AC wireless performance with its stock drivers. I get 90mbps on OpenBSD, whereas I only get 20mbps on FreeBSD with my ThinkPad T480
thanks chad. the main pains i had to deal with was trying to get my files over from ext4.
but no OBS and no good DAW is a pain.
i had to get a new mic as usb was being weird with my head phones.
for IDE i basicly had to build my own from nvim plugins. as i did not like the look or feel of anythings that work
the games available seem decent. i just need friends and then convince them to hop on open arena
OpenBSD has good range of free/open source games. Unfortunately, the ones I used to play many years ago are proprietary, otherwise, I'm sure somebody would have ported them already. I'm especially interested in Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun, RedAlert, and Commandos 2
I'd really like to see the video about k8s! Well, I tried vvm several times but for me it wasn't suitable for work sadly.
I try to make a video about it. First I have to do vmm and then docker videos
@@TheOpenBSDguy Thanks, it would be awesome.
I have an IRL experience with better driver support on OpenBSD compared to FreeBSD. My wireless card is governed by ral driver on OpenBSD (RT3290), but the same driver on FreeBSD doesn't support it at all.
Lack of wine and linuxemu is not a shortcoming, it is something to be proud of. Developers do not need GUI programs for managing sound and network. Developers do not need any journaling filesystem; ext4 obviously is not an interest. Time spending on adding support for unneeded things (for developers) can be spend on improving the base system further, especially make use of more cpu cores and fixing bugs or enabling more security features.
Slow USB transfer speeds is a new one for me. Do you have this problem with USB 3.0 devices, as well?
Yes, I tested with two devices with USB 2 and 3. With USB 3, transferring a 100-meg file takes around 2 to 3 minutes on FAT32 and NTFS (flash drive and external HDD). With USB 2, the same storage units but a different laptop takes at least 5 minutes.
@The OpenBSD guy Have you had this problem with FFS or FFS2 drives?
@@dansullivan9152 - No I haven't tried with FFS or FFS2 yet, mainly because I want to use those units also with other operating systems.
With FFS or FFS2 there is not problem. I have 2 USB2 FFS2 disks and the transfer speed is about 14 mbytes/s.
@@manueljoseblancamolinos8582 Good to know. Thank you!
even openbsd devs use it as there daily driver ?
Is Wine used to be a package or port in OpenBSD though?
It was in port tree and that version was from 1999
@@TheOpenBSDguy Where can I see the list of the ports available? Isn't it the same as the packages? Sorry for asking this.
From my personal list of 'why I not use OpenBSD anymore', in addition to your list:
* weird stupid issues which were resolved ages ago in Linux
* Backspace-Delete bullshit
And while bluetooth support can be complicated, not supporting open-sourced ext4 looks like a stupid politic decision. Screw it.
To put it short, Linux is an evolution, OpenBSD is a creation. Let it die alone
Linux is bloated, I use Freebsd as my daily driver. Mainstream Linux is likely going to be unmaintainable in the next ten years.
@@MitchellJBridges yeah, heard it about windows in 1990's, it should be unmaintainable last 20 years, but it isn't
@@SergeRibalchenko Windows 11 is unmaintainable. They can't fix it, it's soo buggy that it's unusable. If windows 12 goes the same direction it's going to be unusable entirely.
@@SergeRibalchenko Linux is likely going to be abandoned because it can no longer can be maintained. The Linux kernel has every shiny new fad tossed right in. Such as soystemD, flatpaks, proprietary DRM which could be spyware. I even heard that Linux is only slightly better for privacy and security than windows,
When the BSDs were made. It was made with a concise agenda. They were trying to make it the most reliable and secure as possible that takes in the philosophy of UNIX. BSDs were known to remove source code, unlike the Linux kernel totally not adding a million lines of source code every year. 🤦