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Honda continues to dominate the entire Motorcycle World from entry level near scooter/e-bike to dirt bike to this to the now legendary NC750 to the near immortal now Goldwing all crazy good seemingly forever now. Long HMC Honda Motor Corporation strong buy.
I have owned a number of bikes and Honda proofed to be the most reliable . I am still holding on to my NC750X with 48k km and my 1000 Africa twin but considering a replacement for the NC. I think this Scrambler is rather cool. I love the simplicity and like you said back to basics Awesome review as always Ian👊
Old experienced UK rider here. This is a brilliant real-world view of a great bike. You have covered all the important points especially the terrible dash but the wonderful fun factor and great engine and handling on potholed roads. I love mine and I have ridden a lot of bikes over the past 60years. Thanks.
I'm an experienced rider with over a decade of 700+cc UJM riding under my belt, and I got one of these to step-down from my 2006 Honda 919/900 Hornet. That bike's 100+ HP is absolute overkill for 99% of the riding I do, which is around the town commuting and backroad bombing in western PA. It's the same character as the Mazda Miata, in that it is more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. The SCL500 makes me roll on the throttle in a way that I cannot do in the 919 without being a danger to myself and others on the road. The seat height is low, allowing my 5'11'' self to flat-foot it in sneakers. The up-right position is handily the most comfortable bike I've ridden. The tires are great for the occasional gravel surface or dirt washout on the road. I love the metallic fleck orange tank. The bike has a nice rumble and sounds good, and all impressions I've seen indicate that the Vance&Hines pipes will only improve that. Honda finally made a neo-retro mid-sized UJM that I wanted. It lacks the retro heritage of the CB1100, but it's smaller size makes it so much easier to man-handle and operate, all the while sipping gasoline and costing far less. I was kinda bummed at not having analog gauges or any tachometer, but the complete lack of one has actually been nice in that I find myself worrying less about my RPM's and just enjoying the ride more. This bike is absolutely more than the sum of its parts. A reliable bike that damn near anybody of any riding skill level can enjoy.
Hi, thanks for the review. I have had the motorcycle for 7 months and have driven 11,500 km. The CL 500 is reassuring and reliable. I totally agree with the review, the display is bad and the front damper could be stiffer. Remove this and add about 20 HP, it's absolutely perfect!!! Oh, and I love its consumption of 3.4l/100km :-) Greetings from the Czech Republic. All the best.
I’m a big fan of the engine in this bike and the back to basics approach. It’s just fun ! I’ve been riding 40 years and have just returned from a three month tour of Europe on a CB500x. 12,000 miles, two oil changes and a set of tyres. Started first time every time and zero problems. In real world riding , including some forest roads and trails it’s all you need. Honda really know how to screw a bike together and I’m planning next summers trip already ! Thanks for the video Ian , I think you really get what Honda is doing with these simple fun bikes.
Exhuast is ugly but the motor is what its about. I atill think its worth having cruise control on more motorcycles. I dont need radar adaptive etc unless im rich but its nice to set it at 60 and there you go
Great video again. Just got mine in the green color. Traded my Rebel 1100cc DCT in for it. After putting 14,600 miles on the rebel, I decided to downsize. So far, I love it. You are right about the dash lighting. I've got 700 miles on it already. It's very😅 smooth, and the ergonomics are much better than the Rebel 1100cc. I'm taking every turn now at least 10 miles faster than before. Thanks for your detailed report. I'm a retired helicopter pilot and can not believe how much fun I'm having on something simple like this being always liking complicated mechanical things in all my life.😅
Another quick comment. That’s a powerful statement at the end and your voice carries a lot of weight considering you own/have owned or at least ridden every decent bike out there. And it reminds me of the saying I heard when I first started riding that…”it’s more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow.” I’ve found that to be true many times. And now I’m afraid I’ve found my next bike. Thanks??? 🤣
@@leeinwis get ready, it’s coming. 😁 Cliches are very annoying I’ll admit but usually based in reality. Edit- curious, WHEN someone else says it whatcha gonna do? “I swear if one more person…” 👀🍿
.... and you have not likely blasted down country HWYs at 65 on a TW200, thrashing into third year before out of a left hand turn?! ....Then straight off the road to the mt trail. The feeling is absolutely awesome... To rag-out, thru all FIVE gears, all under 55mph! Shits wildly fun! Plus, dirt will humble folk real quick - who haven't seen it. Sat on one of these the other day, and thinking it may be a done deal.
@@RufusCapstickIt'll be a few more years before we get to retire, right now my garage is full of dirt and dual sport stuff here in Texas. One day I'll need something more like this though.
Thank you Ian for your informative video on the Honda SCL500. I was planning to buy one but there was no one available at Honda for a test ride. I never buy a bike without a test ride so I opted for the slightly more expensive CB500x. That one also offers a bit more for the money and I don't regret it.
I can’t recommend this bike enough. Was interested ever since I first saw its debut and waited for it to come across the pond. Owned it for 2 months and really, really happy. A lot of people ask me about it as well.
I bought one, you nailed the review, practical, fun and back to basics - dash is crap and the luggage options are limited until the aftermarket kicks in. Great for the poorly maintained roads in my country and copes with some light trails or gravel roads, typical Honda a bit beige, reliable and no unnecessary electronics, will last for years.
I recently purchased a barely used 2022 Honda CB500X. Your review of that bike definitely helped me to make that choice. My other bike is a 2018 Harley Forty Eight. Since I got the 500X I've decided to sell the Harley because I haven't used it. I love the 500X for the reasons you talk about on the Scrambler - it's super fun to ride, it's easy to live with - to get it in and out the garage and parking spots, it's fantastic or terrible roads, and the ABS is a must. I appreciate your reviews of the smaller displacement and more cost effective motorcycles. Thank you!
I had a fairly new 2015 V-Strom 1000 and during the Honda demo days; a 500F was the only bike left. The guys on the big bikes took off at high speed and left me to my own devices. After 30 min of twists and stop and go the Honda was so easy to ride and handled so well; I realized I had made a mistake. With the wide spread of power my thought was; " this is a small bike that rides like a big one" These days at age 70 I have my own 500F. I have world class twisties five minutes from my door. With sticky sport touring Bridgestones and HH EBC pads on the front, the 500F is serious fun. Suspension can be adjusted.
Looks like the perfect bike for countries like Greece. Many hills, twisty, some good highways, easy to handle, light yet powerful enough. Great review.
just started my motorcycle lessons and probably will get this bike for my first one. Looks super nice, has enough power to last a while, and is cheap so won't be too scared of dropping it which I'm sure will happen one day.
Really love that this bike is made for Pure fun. Easy to hop on and just go, no frills. I remember the huge poster, "you meet the nicest people on a Honda" at the local Honda dealer late 60s. I'm okay with the upswept pipe, it makes it a Scrambler ❤ 😊
First class review, Ian- as usual. Couldn’t agree with you more on the smaller displacement more “basic” machines. I recently downsized from MT 09 power to the CB500F (same engine as the Scrambler). Thought I might miss the power of the CP Triple, but NOPE. I enjoy being able to utilize most of the 471cc power of the 500F. Being 55 yrs old it seems that as my age gets higher, my need for cc power goes down. Always looking for your next review! Keep doing what you do!
What an excellent review Ian. Thank you. This gives me a good feel of the bike. Currently I'm waiting on ride reviews of the Triumph 400 but this Honda 500 is looking good.
Nice! Looking forward to this ride! I completely agree with the “back to basics” comment about the attract ability of a bike like this compared to our faster and more expensive bikes. For me riding my ADV bike for thousands of miles and then jumping on my Crf300L one day is a joy because of the simplicity of it compared.
Thanks once again Ian for an informative video. As someone with 27,000miles on a CB500X,one thing I like about the CL500 is the total absence of plastics,one thing I don't like is the dash,the one on the CB500X is much better.
Very controversial but I kind of wish they'd put the NC750 engine in a scrambler like this. The low down grunt would suit something with a bit of off-road capability and it's such a simple to maintain engine that it would fit with the no-frills approach of the new CL/SCL bike. I'm assuming instead we'll get a model with the new Hornet/Transalp 750 or Rebel 1100 engine. I do like the look of the CL500 but I had a sit on one in my local Honda dealership and it felt *really tiny*, it almost feels like a 500cc Honda Monkey to me.
Same feelings, I ride a Tiger and for commuting to work or short rides, I take out my Honda CB350, also known as GB350 in Japan... definitely not available in US or Europe. That humble 27 PS and 30NM just does magic to the mood. It just chugs along. The whole contrast between the two bikes and yet both of them being so lovable keeps me going. I am always intrigued by Honda, how can something that small and well engineered, so reliable can still satiate a biker's senses.
Sharp little bike! Saw one on the road yesterday. It looks like it would be a fantastic commuter or casual riding bike. Another great video, as always!
I like their 500cc twin cylinder its an impressive little thing how it performs even up at the interstate speed limits for its price, power and economy. It was really cool to see it in one of the rebels. I also like how the rebel 300 engine is sort of on display more in the rebel 300. I hope they find a way to cram it into the mini motos. The trail 125 is cool but im not a scooter kinda guy so if ik going to get on it i need a 6 speed 250 for the trails and the hughway back home after. Its hard for me to spend big money on a bike and it struggles to go 55 and if a hill comes youre doomed. This 500 is a nice balance because the twin cylinder unlocks rpm and reduces vibration compared to a 1 cylinder so this 500 scrambler i bet you will beat things like dr650s in races eventhough they have 150 more cc. More than a grom worth. Thats why i think it should have cruise control. I think the exhuast is ugly butnits also a commuting bike thats good for exploring, I might take it for a longer trip it would be nice if i could pin it at 81 and just go with no right hand on the throttle all day long all day long
Thank you so much, Ian. I started watching your reviews a couple of years back and have gained a tremendous amount of insight into many bikes and riding as a result. Thank you very much for the vicarious experiences I would never have had otherwise. I own three bikes, a cruiser, an adv, and a dual-sport, but I would love to "own them all," as it seems you almost have through your hard work and hustle. Much respect for your riding skills as well. This Honda looks to be a solid choice for my 5'4" daughter. Perhaps a little tall, but this or the Rebel 500 would give her a very manageable, a very capable, and a very reliable bike to start on and stick with for a while if she loses her mind for riding, as I have! Best wishes, and looking for to your next adventure!
I’ve been riding motorcycles since the late 70s. One of my favorite motorcycles that I bought for $300 and brought back to life was a 1972 CB 500 F. I live in Concord and rode that thing to Hollister and back at their 50th anniversary taking skyline all the way. I also rode it to Fort Ross and back . Definitely not the fastest or best bike in Highwinds but my gosh, the fuel economy is amazing. And on tight twisty roads, what can I say, it was just fun without sticking your neck out. it was also great and in the gold country where there are a lot of gravel roads and you don’t have to wrestle a 500 pound bike
You are so right and so honest! A true motorcyclist can enjoy a bike for what it is. I sat on this bike at EICMA and I was elated I think I know what you’re talking about ❤ Thank You 🙏 P.S. I am still a bit upset for your ‘too kind’ approach towards KTM’s ‘attitude’…😅😅
I agree about the fun to ride part. I have a VN2000, 690SMCR,Gen1 Hayabusa,but I have more fun on the little CL500 than on the other bikes.In fact,the only bike that was more fun than the CL500,was a 2023 890 Duke R. But that's about it for more.And I rode so many bikes in the past. The CL500,which I initially only got to commute to work,became my go to favorite bike.
This was my first bike. Only kept it a month (2000 miles). I commute a lot on the highway. Ultimately traded it in due to the fact that you sit on top of the bike and get a lot of wind and does move around a bit when passing semi's. Suspension is quite soft and doesn't instill confidence for me personally. The engine braking is also very strong and can cause new riders not to use their brakes often which I feel was a safety issue. At least that was my experience. It has a very utilitarian feel to it so I never really fell in love with it. It was a great first bike though.
Ian, regarding Honda's 500cc engine power and performance, for perspective I believe a 1981 BMW R80RT produced 50 HP. +/- The R100 of the time produced about 60 hp. They were both excellent touring capable machines. I would imagine Honda's 500cc motor offers better mpg and reliability and certainly as capable for touring as the two examples above. Cheers
One of the best reviews of this bike I have watched thanks! I am buying one as a round town bike - love the retro styling touches, to have along with my 1250GS which is too big for regular city riding!
Two aesthetic changes I’d love to see Honda make on this bike; A gas tank that looks more conventional, even if it’s just a non functional part that covers the frame more. And I wish they had put a “crease” down the length of the muffler or heat shield to give it more of a dual muffler look, it would work well with the dual outlets it already has.
Overall, it's a holistic and useful review of an attractive option from Honda. One thing you can improve on your reviews of other bikes in the future is this: have a short segment to record the engine sound accelerating and decelerating and another for us to hear the exhaust note doing likewise. As you may already know, sound is important to potential motorcycle owners.
Thank you brother, I put my money down on one. It should be ready soon. I will be turning 60 soon and wanted something easier to rind then a big, tall adventure bike. I think I was fooling myself when I thought I need a 900 Tiger or something like that. I always try to live by this saying, (we buy things we don't need to impress people we don't like). Keep it simple stupid KISS.
Got my SCL500 this passed week. In LOVE with her. Honda really needs to update/replace the instrument cluster/dash is my only complaint. Its advertised by Honda that the SCL500 has a Tachometer on their spec sheets and website...but if ya have one you know it DOESNT have a tach. False advertising there is kind of annoying and blatant by Honda. But ye beyond the absolute garbage instrument cluster the bike itself is EVERYTHING I wanted it to be and more! ^.^ Safe/happy riding!
Nice looking bike and a great review, assuming it's geared higher than the CB500X, it should do better than the 110 mph. Your correct, Honda needs to do better with the dash LCD contrast. Unlike the CB line with the seat from hell, its seat looks more comfortable. DOT needs to get mandate all street bikes have ABS cornering, and the option to turn it off after the bike is started on dual sports/adventure off road models.
I've been looking forward to your thoughts on this 500, Ian. It's a favourite of mine and I'm glad you enjoyed it too. As you said, you have access to so many high spec, high power bikes but the CL is so fun and easy.
The Ptwin 500 platform from Honda is one of my favorite engines for fun daily riding (I have a CB500x). I'm really curious to see how the Honda scrambler stacks up against the Triumph single 400 scrambler coming out in 2024; hope Ian gets to review the Triumph 400 when it comes out.
Modern scramblers have been available in Europe for several years and it took a senseless time for them to arrive in the U.S., why I don't know! The moment I test rode a Rebel I thought it would make a great scrambler. Gee! I thought, if only Honda had the vision...... I'm excited about the CL. I've been riding for over 30 years and I'm completely over heavy bikes. My years of overachiever are behind. I have no-one to impress and a light, fun, polyvalent bike is what I like. I currently ride a "scramblerized" Sportster. I Iove it BUT... It's too heavy and I'm now spending hundreds of dollars to lighten it. I doubt HD will have the vision or even the desire to turn the Street into a light scrambler because HD despises cheap and small. All that to say that if and when I come upon a used CL in the future, I think I won't be able to pass on it. And that cumbersome muffler will be gone hahahaha. Thanks again for a great video, Big Rock! Ride safe all.
Bike needs a Vance & Hines after market slip-on to improve sound and get rid of the big clunky (heavy) exhaust that eats up right side panier space and a smaller rear sprocket to reduce highway vibrations......
Hey Ian, great review If this Bike. I did consider the CL500 as I want something "back to basics" as you describe. What makes me hesitate, i am not restricted to (Europe) 48; HP/ A2. Also pricewise $2.000 more are affordsble for me. Bikes with 900cc plus, 120 HP plus are way more expensive to buy but also to run (insurance, gas etc) My big "but" is the Yamaha XSR 700 (as you for sure know an MT07 in neo retro clothes).The Yamaha does cost a little more, run cost is almost the same. But the Yamaha has about 72 HP, dual front brake discs and other tiny advanatges. I do understand its a different price point. But you understanding my positon and points, whats your 5 Cent on this "2 great choices*. Thx a lot Ian
Ive been waiting for you and Dork in the Road to do a review of this bike. I find it interesting that you said it's a road bike and not offroad. "Some" have speculated that the SCL500 could potentially be better offroad than the 500X because the SCL has more clearance and less weight.
Great Stuff,Thanks! I'm in Thailand and they sell this exact motorcycle with the '286cc single engine' which Honda uses in a couple of their other bikes. As I'll not be doing 'highway miles', I think it may fit the bill - there's only two differences(other than the engine)from what I can see - it's 18kg lighter and has 10mm more ground clearance. Anyhow, I'll try both and decide.Your review was very thorough - Thank you!!
I have a Scram 411, and this is the bike I probabaly should have bought. I didn't know it was being released at the time. Love my Scram; but it just needs a bit more power.
Ian Fantastic review. I didn't even know it was out! I had a 1973 CL350 back in the day. Man this new one brings back memories. I think for the money, with some tweaks, it could be a Himalayan killer. I'm definitely buying one to bang around town with my Mannequin! Great Video. Ride SAFE and BE safe Ian! 👍👍
@@danoalex2977 LOL!! 😂🤣 I wish I could attach a picture. I bought mine to keep my 1 pc track suit in shape. Mine has the suit, gloves, boots and helmet standing in my front living room window! Peace man!
Since the suspension is kinda of an old-school there should be already plenty of relatively inexpensive upgrades on ebay, and it would be awesome if seat concepts comes with a seat for it as well. Cheers!
Nice, would look better with spokes and less flat black. Practically needs a rear rack, and a screen would be nice. +400 lbs is a bit much for a beginner bike though.
Probably going to buy one of these, I just wish yes it had a brighter or higher contrast “dash” and a second equally sized gauge that’s purely a tachometer… like old school analog tachometer. (Digital signal is fine but with an actual needle) that and Honda, drop the four LED lights in the round bezel. Use a really good halogen or some monster single LED emitter in a round house/reflector, the four individual LED’s looks awful and clashes with the rest of the bike.
Compared to the Hunter 350, beside twin engine and the reliability, how does it feel? Is it worth the diference of the price for a comute bike, rarely going to the mountains?
Tried the Rebel 500 and thought the engine and tranny was a peach, but ergos and short suspension was not for me. Thinking the SCL would do the trick. How's the seat long range? That thicker brown seat that Honda sells sounds necessary to me.
Having owned the CBR250R I can tell you the small single cylinder gets tiring very quickly.. I switched bikes after 1 season. If I had a Honda 500 I’d still likely be riding it
The bike will do a 100 miles per hour downhill with a minute of full throttle. Realistically the bike can do 85 mph before tapering off and has a top speed of 98 mph.
Great presentation. I have one question regarding to off road usage: If this bike has skid plate, off road tyres,can it go through dirt roads or off road with medium difficulty (mud,rocks etc)?Also, can the suspensions be replaced by others with more suspension-travelling? Thank you.
Isn't the exhaust too close to the pillion? Not only about touching it accidentally, but also heat flowing up beside the passenger in stopped/slow traffic.
Main difference in these bikes are their set-ups - they are designed to suit different needs. Naked sport vs Adventurer designs. The 500cc engine is the same (with some slight tune difference based on design would be not noticeable on performance alone but the design change between them). The other main difference is the year on year part upgrade they have received. The new model year ones for the CB500 F and X should come with new swingarms, inverted Showa forks, dual front disc brakes. The adventure CB500X shares the same new brake but has longer front suspension travel and a lighter, larger 19-inch front wheel compared to the CB500F. Slight difference in the fuel tank capacity and saddle height. But the Adv CB500X gets more safety features in the instrument panel. So compare this to the scrambler features with these points. Cheers.
I have been thinking about getting one o these. Would prefer it in a 750. Also how about a vid comparing the CL500 to the CB500X (not full off-road or adv bikes, but good options for the occasional dirt road)
I don’t like the dash, that ignition key on the side and that huge exhaust. Would some aftemarket short exhausts for rebel fit this bike? It should also have better forks and twin dissc like 500f and x.
I am a 55 yr old mostly beginner rider who will do 98% street riding. I’m deciding between this bike and the RE Himalayan 450. Which would you recommend?
Great review, love it. I just watched your review of the triumph scrambler 900 not that long ago and am I missing something. To me it’s night and day, I realize the cost difference but to me all I see is a rebel 500 that had some spare bin parts to create a scrambler. An example would be look at the radiator sticks out the sides, just doesn’t look like the attention to destabilize went into it. It’s a Honda and I’m sure it’s great but is it deserving my hard earned money, not sure.
After a test drive, I can safely suggest you think of an OEM seat replacement to have something a tad more plush. Especially if you usually ride something more comfortable. Sincerely, that seat is like a plank. Otherwise, I sincerely have no bad comment about the bike. The built quality is exactly what you expect from Honda. The transmission and the clutch are a charm to deal with. Typical Honda fuel sipping for longer rides. A tad lazy on power but nothing to write home about.
Another bike for the masses typically Honda, nice average bike definitely a great beginner bike, but definitely get aftermarket exhaust. The twin is a good touch
Thanks for the review. I am a new rider and purchased a hunter 350 in May. It’s a great bike for the city (I live in SF) and short excursions; for my longer commute, though (50 miles rt), I doubt it will prove practical long term. Would the Honda be a good eventual step up as an all-rounder, or should I keep the Hunter (which I like) and add something more highway-focused (Triumph Tiger 660/similar)?
What do you think of Honda's attempt to bring back the CL Scrambler?
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I think I want one!
Thanks for the great content!
You’re not lying about Hondas great reliable rep!
That’s why my dual sports are CRFs.
Honda continues to dominate the entire Motorcycle World from entry level near scooter/e-bike to dirt bike to this to the now legendary NC750 to the near immortal now Goldwing all crazy good seemingly forever now. Long HMC Honda Motor Corporation strong buy.
Great review! If the decision was between this and the KTM adventure 390, which way would you go? Some light off road work, mostly road....Thanks!
I have owned a number of bikes and Honda proofed to be the most reliable .
I am still holding on to my NC750X with 48k km and my 1000 Africa twin but considering a replacement for the NC.
I think this Scrambler is rather cool. I love the simplicity and like you said back to basics
Awesome review as always Ian👊
I will do this in Thailand for retirement 🙂
Old experienced UK rider here. This is a brilliant real-world view of a great bike. You have covered all the important points especially the terrible dash but the wonderful fun factor and great engine and handling on potholed roads. I love mine and I have ridden a lot of bikes over the past 60years. Thanks.
I'm an experienced rider with over a decade of 700+cc UJM riding under my belt, and I got one of these to step-down from my 2006 Honda 919/900 Hornet. That bike's 100+ HP is absolute overkill for 99% of the riding I do, which is around the town commuting and backroad bombing in western PA.
It's the same character as the Mazda Miata, in that it is more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. The SCL500 makes me roll on the throttle in a way that I cannot do in the 919 without being a danger to myself and others on the road.
The seat height is low, allowing my 5'11'' self to flat-foot it in sneakers. The up-right position is handily the most comfortable bike I've ridden. The tires are great for the occasional gravel surface or dirt washout on the road. I love the metallic fleck orange tank. The bike has a nice rumble and sounds good, and all impressions I've seen indicate that the Vance&Hines pipes will only improve that.
Honda finally made a neo-retro mid-sized UJM that I wanted. It lacks the retro heritage of the CB1100, but it's smaller size makes it so much easier to man-handle and operate, all the while sipping gasoline and costing far less. I was kinda bummed at not having analog gauges or any tachometer, but the complete lack of one has actually been nice in that I find myself worrying less about my RPM's and just enjoying the ride more.
This bike is absolutely more than the sum of its parts. A reliable bike that damn near anybody of any riding skill level can enjoy.
Totally agree about missing the analog clocks. I have a Concours 1000 and at 67 I gotta get off it. This might be the bike or the RE INT650.
I love the review. It felt like the analytical part of a FortNine review lol
Hi, thanks for the review. I have had the motorcycle for 7 months and have driven 11,500 km. The CL 500 is reassuring and reliable. I totally agree with the review, the display is bad and the front damper could be stiffer. Remove this and add about 20 HP, it's absolutely perfect!!! Oh, and I love its consumption of 3.4l/100km :-) Greetings from the Czech Republic.
All the best.
The 471cc Honda engine is a gem. I have over 75,000 miles on one, over half of which is touring. 80-90 mph for extended periods is no problem.
The beeping when you do graphics is annoying btw.
@@PwnstarUK
I second that
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I’m a big fan of the engine in this bike and the back to basics approach. It’s just fun !
I’ve been riding 40 years and have just returned from a three month tour of Europe on a CB500x. 12,000 miles, two oil changes and a set of tyres. Started first time every time and zero problems. In real world riding , including some forest roads and trails it’s all you need.
Honda really know how to screw a bike together and I’m planning next summers trip already !
Thanks for the video Ian , I think you really get what Honda is doing with these simple fun bikes.
Exhuast is ugly but the motor is what its about. I atill think its worth having cruise control on more motorcycles. I dont need radar adaptive etc unless im rich but its nice to set it at 60 and there you go
Great video again. Just got mine in the green color. Traded my Rebel 1100cc DCT in for it. After putting 14,600 miles on the rebel, I decided to downsize. So far, I love it. You are right about the dash lighting.
I've got 700 miles on it already. It's very😅 smooth, and the ergonomics are much better than the Rebel 1100cc. I'm taking every turn now at least 10 miles faster than before. Thanks for your detailed report. I'm a retired helicopter pilot and can not believe how much fun I'm having on something simple like this being always liking complicated mechanical things in all my life.😅
Another quick comment.
That’s a powerful statement at the end and your voice carries a lot of weight considering you own/have owned or at least ridden every decent bike out there.
And it reminds me of the saying I heard when I first started riding that…”it’s more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow.”
I’ve found that to be true many times.
And now I’m afraid I’ve found my next bike. Thanks??? 🤣
I swear if one more person says that..JFC .
@@leeinwis get ready, it’s coming. 😁
Cliches are very annoying I’ll admit but usually based in reality.
Edit- curious, WHEN someone else says it whatcha gonna do? “I swear if one more person…”
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.... and you have not likely blasted down country HWYs at 65 on a TW200, thrashing into third year before out of a left hand turn?!
....Then straight off the road to the mt trail.
The feeling is absolutely awesome... To rag-out, thru all FIVE gears, all under 55mph! Shits wildly fun! Plus, dirt will humble folk real quick - who haven't seen it.
Sat on one of these the other day, and thinking it may be a done deal.
I could see myself riding this bike in the Philippines when i retire.
At that price, why wait, life can change in an instant
@@RufusCapstick the annual minimum wage in our country is just around $6,000 so yeah....
@@RufusCapstickIt'll be a few more years before we get to retire, right now my garage is full of dirt and dual sport stuff here in Texas. One day I'll need something more like this though.
@@Scollier1961 its 400 cc, though motorcycle companies can now register their 350-390cc motorcycle as 400cc and highway legal.
@@Scollier1961yup! they call the 400cc+ bikes as “expressway legal” bikes.
Thank you Ian for your informative video on the Honda SCL500. I was planning to buy one but there was no one available at Honda for a test ride. I never buy a bike without a test ride so I opted for the slightly more expensive CB500x. That one also offers a bit more for the money and I don't regret it.
I can’t recommend this bike enough. Was interested ever since I first saw its debut and waited for it to come across the pond. Owned it for 2 months and really, really happy. A lot of people ask me about it as well.
I bought one, you nailed the review, practical, fun and back to basics - dash is crap and the luggage options are limited until the aftermarket kicks in. Great for the poorly maintained roads in my country and copes with some light trails or gravel roads, typical Honda a bit beige, reliable and no unnecessary electronics, will last for years.
I recently purchased a barely used 2022 Honda CB500X. Your review of that bike definitely helped me to make that choice. My other bike is a 2018 Harley Forty Eight. Since I got the 500X I've decided to sell the Harley because I haven't used it. I love the 500X for the reasons you talk about on the Scrambler - it's super fun to ride, it's easy to live with - to get it in and out the garage and parking spots, it's fantastic or terrible roads, and the ABS is a must. I appreciate your reviews of the smaller displacement and more cost effective motorcycles. Thank you!
Thanks for the great videos. Awesome review of the SCL500!
thank you!
One of my first motorcycles was a CL305 Scrambler. It was a sweet machine in it's day. Simple and fun. The legend lives on!!
I had a fairly new 2015 V-Strom 1000 and during the Honda demo days; a 500F was the only bike left. The guys on the big bikes took off at high speed and left me to my own devices. After 30 min of twists and stop and go the Honda was so easy to ride and handled so well; I realized I had made a mistake. With the wide spread of power my thought was; " this is a small bike that rides like a big one"
These days at age 70 I have my own 500F. I have world class twisties five minutes from my door. With sticky sport touring Bridgestones and HH EBC pads on the front, the 500F is serious fun. Suspension can be adjusted.
It's really, really appreciated that you take the time to convert to metric, and the A2 pointer was fantastic!
Looks like the perfect bike for countries like Greece. Many hills, twisty, some good highways, easy to handle, light yet powerful enough. Great review.
just started my motorcycle lessons and probably will get this bike for my first one.
Looks super nice, has enough power to last a while, and is cheap so won't be too scared of dropping it which I'm sure will happen one day.
Really love that this bike is made for Pure fun. Easy to hop on and just go, no frills. I remember the huge poster, "you meet the nicest people on a Honda" at the local Honda dealer late 60s. I'm okay with the upswept pipe, it makes it a Scrambler ❤ 😊
Another fine review Ian. Capable bike. Nice when design is whittled down to perfection. Nothing over the top. Simple. I like it.
First class review, Ian- as usual. Couldn’t agree with you more on the smaller displacement more “basic” machines. I recently downsized from MT 09 power to the CB500F (same engine as the Scrambler). Thought I might miss the power of the CP Triple, but NOPE. I enjoy being able to utilize most of the 471cc power of the 500F. Being 55 yrs old it seems that as my age gets higher, my need for cc power goes down. Always looking for your next review! Keep doing what you do!
I’m 56 and want to get back into riding after many years. This bike is just what I was picturing. Get me there in style!
What an excellent review Ian. Thank you. This gives me a good feel of the bike. Currently I'm waiting on ride reviews of the Triumph 400 but this Honda 500 is looking good.
That's what I'm waiting for, that Triumph Speed 400 looks like the ticket.
Nice! Looking forward to this ride!
I completely agree with the “back to basics” comment about the attract ability of a bike like this compared to our faster and more expensive bikes. For me riding my ADV bike for thousands of miles and then jumping on my Crf300L one day is a joy because of the simplicity of it compared.
Well said!
But at $9k?…. For a beginner bike ??? That’s a easy pass…
Thanks once again Ian for an informative video.
As someone with 27,000miles on a CB500X,one thing I like about the CL500 is the total absence of plastics,one thing I don't like is the dash,the one on the CB500X is much better.
Used 500X's sell quickly..... for good reason!
Very controversial but I kind of wish they'd put the NC750 engine in a scrambler like this. The low down grunt would suit something with a bit of off-road capability and it's such a simple to maintain engine that it would fit with the no-frills approach of the new CL/SCL bike. I'm assuming instead we'll get a model with the new Hornet/Transalp 750 or Rebel 1100 engine. I do like the look of the CL500 but I had a sit on one in my local Honda dealership and it felt *really tiny*, it almost feels like a 500cc Honda Monkey to me.
Same feelings, I ride a Tiger and for commuting to work or short rides, I take out my Honda CB350, also known as GB350 in Japan... definitely not available in US or Europe. That humble 27 PS and 30NM just does magic to the mood. It just chugs along. The whole contrast between the two bikes and yet both of them being so lovable keeps me going. I am always intrigued by Honda, how can something that small and well engineered, so reliable can still satiate a biker's senses.
Sharp little bike! Saw one on the road yesterday. It looks like it would be a fantastic commuter or casual riding bike. Another great video, as always!
Totally agree!
I like their 500cc twin cylinder its an impressive little thing how it performs even up at the interstate speed limits for its price, power and economy. It was really cool to see it in one of the rebels. I also like how the rebel 300 engine is sort of on display more in the rebel 300. I hope they find a way to cram it into the mini motos. The trail 125 is cool but im not a scooter kinda guy so if ik going to get on it i need a 6 speed 250 for the trails and the hughway back home after. Its hard for me to spend big money on a bike and it struggles to go 55 and if a hill comes youre doomed. This 500 is a nice balance because the twin cylinder unlocks rpm and reduces vibration compared to a 1 cylinder so this 500 scrambler i bet you will beat things like dr650s in races eventhough they have 150 more cc. More than a grom worth. Thats why i think it should have cruise control. I think the exhuast is ugly butnits also a commuting bike thats good for exploring, I might take it for a longer trip it would be nice if i could pin it at 81 and just go with no right hand on the throttle all day long all day long
Highly recommend that Italian restaurant you pass on the left @13:05. Excellent!!
Took my license a long time ago (14years ago). This might be my first bike summer of 2024 🤞🏽👍🏽
Thank you so much, Ian. I started watching your reviews a couple of years back and have gained a tremendous amount of insight into many bikes and riding as a result. Thank you very much for the vicarious experiences I would never have had otherwise. I own three bikes, a cruiser, an adv, and a dual-sport, but I would love to "own them all," as it seems you almost have through your hard work and hustle. Much respect for your riding skills as well. This Honda looks to be a solid choice for my 5'4" daughter. Perhaps a little tall, but this or the Rebel 500 would give her a very manageable, a very capable, and a very reliable bike to start on and stick with for a while if she loses her mind for riding, as I have! Best wishes, and looking for to your next adventure!
I’ve been riding motorcycles since the late 70s. One of my favorite motorcycles that I bought for $300 and brought back to life was a 1972 CB 500 F. I live in Concord and rode that thing to Hollister and back at their 50th anniversary taking skyline all the way. I also rode it to Fort Ross and back . Definitely not the fastest or best bike in Highwinds but my gosh, the fuel economy is amazing. And on tight twisty roads, what can I say, it was just fun without sticking your neck out. it was also great and in the gold country where there are a lot of gravel roads and you don’t have to wrestle a 500 pound bike
You are so right and so honest!
A true motorcyclist can enjoy a bike for what it is.
I sat on this bike at EICMA and I was elated I think I know what you’re talking about ❤
Thank You 🙏
P.S.
I am still a bit upset for your ‘too kind’ approach towards KTM’s ‘attitude’…😅😅
Mirrors are super steady. I can see the rider and other things behind you in the video. I totally want one.
I agree about the fun to ride part. I have a VN2000, 690SMCR,Gen1 Hayabusa,but I have more fun on the little CL500 than on the other bikes.In fact,the only bike that was more fun than the CL500,was a 2023 890 Duke R. But that's about it for more.And I rode so many bikes in the past.
The CL500,which I initially only got to commute to work,became my go to favorite bike.
If I didn't have a BMW G310GS, I would get it. The 310 is quite amazing for the size and with a 17 tooth front sprocket, I can do 75 mph all day.
This was my first bike. Only kept it a month (2000 miles). I commute a lot on the highway. Ultimately traded it in due to the fact that you sit on top of the bike and get a lot of wind and does move around a bit when passing semi's. Suspension is quite soft and doesn't instill confidence for me personally. The engine braking is also very strong and can cause new riders not to use their brakes often which I feel was a safety issue. At least that was my experience. It has a very utilitarian feel to it so I never really fell in love with it. It was a great first bike though.
Ian, regarding Honda's 500cc engine power and performance, for perspective I believe a 1981 BMW R80RT produced 50 HP. +/- The R100 of the time produced about 60 hp. They were both excellent touring capable machines. I would imagine Honda's 500cc motor offers better mpg and reliability and certainly as capable for touring as the two examples above.
Cheers
very true
One of the best reviews of this bike I have watched thanks! I am buying one as a round town bike - love the retro styling touches, to have along with my 1250GS which is too big for regular city riding!
I put pirelli scorpio tires on mine. Changed the bike for the better.
Two aesthetic changes I’d love to see Honda make on this bike; A gas tank that looks more conventional, even if it’s just a non functional part that covers the frame more. And I wish they had put a “crease” down the length of the muffler or heat shield to give it more of a dual muffler look, it would work well with the dual outlets it already has.
Totally agree. It's a lazy-ass effort stylistically. I can't unsee the Rebel that it is.
Overall, it's a holistic and useful review of an attractive option from Honda.
One thing you can improve on your reviews of other bikes in the future is this: have a short segment to record the engine sound accelerating and decelerating and another for us to hear the exhaust note doing likewise. As you may already know, sound is important to potential motorcycle owners.
Love your videos Ian. This one is a prime example of the old adage that it's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than to ride a fast bike slow.
Old Honda scramblers are so much nicer to look at !
Sounds like a great bike . Wish they where better looking .
It is a major fail from a stylistic perspective
Thank you brother, I put my money down on one. It should be ready soon. I will be turning 60 soon and wanted something easier to rind then a big, tall adventure bike. I think I was fooling myself when I thought I need a 900 Tiger or something like that. I always try to live by this saying, (we buy things we don't need to impress people we don't like). Keep it simple stupid KISS.
Cool bike but dash rules it out for me, negative display is dumb, if there's one thing you want to see clearly it's the Speedo, thanks Ian!
Yes negative display is dumb. 100% agree
Nice review! Would love a comparison ride video by you of Triumph Scrambler 400x when it comes out in Jan-24.
The only bike review channel I trust. Thanks big rock.! (sidenote : I still don't find this a scrambler in any way, but oh well haha)
Excellent review. I had a 70s 360 Scrambler and it looks like this bike is built by identical purposes.
beep beep !
I have a feeling one of these will be my next bike. They seem like they'll be great fun to ride at lower speeds.
Got my SCL500 this passed week. In LOVE with her. Honda really needs to update/replace the instrument cluster/dash is my only complaint. Its advertised by Honda that the SCL500 has a Tachometer on their spec sheets and website...but if ya have one you know it DOESNT have a tach. False advertising there is kind of annoying and blatant by Honda. But ye beyond the absolute garbage instrument cluster the bike itself is EVERYTHING I wanted it to be and more! ^.^ Safe/happy riding!
Nice looking bike and a great review, assuming it's geared higher than the CB500X, it should do better than the 110 mph. Your correct, Honda needs to do better with the dash LCD contrast. Unlike the CB line with the seat from hell, its seat looks more comfortable. DOT needs to get mandate all street bikes have ABS cornering, and the option to turn it off after the bike is started on dual sports/adventure off road models.
What a great little bike, great asa second bike
I've been looking forward to your thoughts on this 500, Ian. It's a favourite of mine and I'm glad you enjoyed it too. As you said, you have access to so many high spec, high power bikes but the CL is so fun and easy.
The Ptwin 500 platform from Honda is one of my favorite engines for fun daily riding (I have a CB500x). I'm really curious to see how the Honda scrambler stacks up against the Triumph single 400 scrambler coming out in 2024; hope Ian gets to review the Triumph 400 when it comes out.
Modern scramblers have been available in Europe for several years and it took a senseless time for them to arrive in the U.S., why I don't know! The moment I test rode a Rebel I thought it would make a great scrambler. Gee! I thought, if only Honda had the vision...... I'm excited about the CL. I've been riding for over 30 years and I'm completely over heavy bikes. My years of overachiever are behind. I have no-one to impress and a light, fun, polyvalent bike is what I like. I currently ride a "scramblerized" Sportster. I Iove it BUT... It's too heavy and I'm now spending hundreds of dollars to lighten it. I doubt HD will have the vision or even the desire to turn the Street into a light scrambler because HD despises cheap and small.
All that to say that if and when I come upon a used CL in the future, I think I won't be able to pass on it. And that cumbersome muffler will be gone hahahaha.
Thanks again for a great video, Big Rock! Ride safe all.
Bike needs a Vance & Hines after market slip-on to improve sound and get rid of the big clunky (heavy) exhaust that eats up right side panier space and a smaller rear sprocket to reduce highway vibrations......
Hey Ian, great review If this Bike. I did consider the CL500 as I want something "back to basics" as you describe.
What makes me hesitate, i am not restricted to (Europe) 48; HP/ A2. Also pricewise $2.000 more are affordsble for me. Bikes with 900cc plus, 120 HP plus are way more expensive to buy but also to run (insurance, gas etc)
My big "but" is the Yamaha XSR 700 (as you for sure know an MT07 in neo retro clothes).The Yamaha does cost a little more, run cost is almost the same. But the Yamaha has about 72 HP, dual front brake discs and other tiny advanatges. I do understand its a different price point. But you understanding my positon and points, whats your 5 Cent on this "2 great choices*. Thx a lot Ian
Get the Yammy. QC on Honda is now behind Yamaha; both good but I'd get the Y. Bill, Phoenix, AZ, USA getting rid of a BMW R1200R.
Ive been waiting for you and Dork in the Road to do a review of this bike. I find it interesting that you said it's a road bike and not offroad. "Some" have speculated that the SCL500 could potentially be better offroad than the 500X because the SCL has more clearance and less weight.
Another nicely done video Ian. 👍
Great Stuff,Thanks! I'm in Thailand and they sell this exact motorcycle with the '286cc single engine' which Honda uses in a couple of their other bikes. As I'll not be doing 'highway miles', I think it may fit the bill - there's only two differences(other than the engine)from what I can see - it's 18kg lighter and has 10mm more ground clearance. Anyhow, I'll try both and decide.Your review was very thorough - Thank you!!
I have a Scram 411, and this is the bike I probabaly should have bought. I didn't know it was being released at the time.
Love my Scram; but it just needs a bit more power.
Pretty bike. I had a 305 in the 60s; too old to ride now, but I would have one of these if I did.
Jesus Ian you are at peak producing power haha
Kudos!
Ian
Fantastic review. I didn't even know it was out! I had a 1973 CL350 back in the day. Man this new one brings back memories. I think for the money, with some tweaks, it could be a Himalayan killer. I'm definitely buying one to bang around town with my Mannequin! Great Video.
Ride SAFE and BE safe Ian! 👍👍
Lol, I have 3 in my car so I look like a player
@@danoalex2977 LOL!! 😂🤣 I wish I could attach a picture. I bought mine to keep my 1 pc track suit in shape. Mine has the suit, gloves, boots and helmet standing in my front living room window!
Peace man!
Love this bike!! Thanks for the review.
Since the suspension is kinda of an old-school there should be already plenty of relatively inexpensive upgrades on ebay, and it would be awesome if seat concepts comes with a seat for it as well.
Cheers!
Thanks soooo much for this one🙏
Nice, would look better with spokes and less flat black. Practically needs a rear rack, and a screen would be nice. +400 lbs is a bit much for a beginner bike though.
Reviews are really getting dished out here, nice 💯
Probably going to buy one of these, I just wish yes it had a brighter or higher contrast “dash” and a second equally sized gauge that’s purely a tachometer… like old school analog tachometer. (Digital signal is fine but with an actual needle) that and Honda, drop the four LED lights in the round bezel. Use a really good halogen or some monster single LED emitter in a round house/reflector, the four individual LED’s looks awful and clashes with the rest of the bike.
Thanks, love your channel ! Are you planning a review on the R18 Roctane? Stay safe !
Compared to the Hunter 350, beside twin engine and the reliability, how does it feel? Is it worth the diference of the price for a comute bike, rarely going to the mountains?
Tried the Rebel 500 and thought the engine and tranny was a peach, but ergos and short suspension was not for me. Thinking the SCL would do the trick. How's the seat long range? That thicker brown seat that Honda sells sounds necessary to me.
How does this compare to the CB300r, wanting something light and flickable for around the city, but highway able, fun
Having owned the CBR250R I can tell you the small single cylinder gets tiring very quickly.. I switched bikes after 1 season. If I had a Honda 500 I’d still likely be riding it
Other than the passenger seat it looks solid.
WAY more power than the 300
Is it also suitable for off-road riding with an engine guard?
Great review Ian, looking at new rider bikes for my son and some of my younger friends and this one is definitely on the list.
The bike will do a 100 miles per hour downhill with a minute of full throttle. Realistically the bike can do 85 mph before tapering off and has a top speed of 98 mph.
Simplicity 😊 with enough power for the urban world
Great presentation. I have one question regarding to off road usage: If this bike has skid plate, off road tyres,can it go through dirt roads or off road with medium difficulty (mud,rocks etc)?Also, can the suspensions be replaced by others with more suspension-travelling? Thank you.
Isn't the exhaust too close to the pillion? Not only about touching it accidentally, but also heat flowing up beside the passenger in stopped/slow traffic.
I have a question: what are the pros and cons compared to either CB500f and CB500x? The look is nice and it’s catching the Scrambler’s wave but…
Main difference in these bikes are their set-ups - they are designed to suit different needs. Naked sport vs Adventurer designs. The 500cc engine is the same (with some slight tune difference based on design would be not noticeable on performance alone but the design change between them).
The other main difference is the year on year part upgrade they have received. The new model year ones for the CB500 F and X should come with new swingarms, inverted Showa forks, dual front disc brakes.
The adventure CB500X shares the same new brake but has longer front suspension travel and a lighter, larger 19-inch front wheel compared to the CB500F.
Slight difference in the fuel tank capacity and saddle height. But the Adv CB500X gets more safety features in the instrument panel.
So compare this to the scrambler features with these points. Cheers.
I have been thinking about getting one o these. Would prefer it in a 750.
Also how about a vid comparing the CL500 to the CB500X (not full off-road or adv bikes, but good options for the occasional dirt road)
how would it perform on forest service gravel roads? washboard gravel?
The switch gear looks exactly like the stuff on my 2023 Honda CRF300L
I wonder if the negative display could be switched to a positive one?
Great review, enjoyed it
I don’t like the dash, that ignition key on the side and that huge exhaust. Would some aftemarket short exhausts for rebel fit this bike? It should also have better forks and twin dissc like 500f and x.
I am a 55 yr old mostly beginner rider who will do 98% street riding. I’m deciding between this bike and the RE Himalayan 450. Which would you recommend?
Great review, love it. I just watched your review of the triumph scrambler 900 not that long ago and am I missing something. To me it’s night and day, I realize the cost difference but to me all I see is a rebel 500 that had some spare bin parts to create a scrambler. An example would be look at the radiator sticks out the sides, just doesn’t look like the attention to destabilize went into it. It’s a Honda and I’m sure it’s great but is it deserving my hard earned money, not sure.
After a test drive, I can safely suggest you think of an OEM seat replacement to have something a tad more plush. Especially if you usually ride something more comfortable. Sincerely, that seat is like a plank.
Otherwise, I sincerely have no bad comment about the bike. The built quality is exactly what you expect from Honda. The transmission and the clutch are a charm to deal with. Typical Honda fuel sipping for longer rides. A tad lazy on power but nothing to write home about.
the honda tall seat was better
You mind going a bit more into highway, you chatted about it in video. Is it very buzzy at 65-70mph (100-110kmph roughly)
Great review on honda 500. Are there any plans on the 450rl duel sport
Another bike for the masses typically Honda, nice average bike definitely a great beginner bike, but definitely get aftermarket exhaust. The twin is a good touch
Passengers? Or would one have to change the exhaust or what would you recommend in same style “modern classic “
The black rubber tank pads, so reminiscent of the1960's CL scramblers. ABS but no traction control?
Hello, How would this bike fit a driver being 185 cm? It seems your knees are bent while seated would the extra height be a comfort issue?
I love my CL500!
I love your CL500 too.
I’m wondering if the radiator is really vulnerable… it seems to be sticking out quite a bit.
Thanks for the review. I am a new rider and purchased a hunter 350 in May. It’s a great bike for the city (I live in SF) and short excursions; for my longer commute, though (50 miles rt), I doubt it will prove practical long term. Would the Honda be a good eventual step up as an all-rounder, or should I keep the Hunter (which I like) and add something more highway-focused (Triumph Tiger 660/similar)?