Graphene Coatings vs Ceramic Coatings | The Reality vs The Marketing!
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- I wanted to look at the latest new technology in automotive detailing that is taking us by storm, graphene coatings. I give my opinion on the reality vs the marketing of what this means for detailers and the future of car paint protection, and is it really that much better than ceramic coatings?
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So be real with me and let me know if anyone is talking contact angles when talking car or motorcycle detailing 😅
The only ones talking about contact angles are the companies that have an inferior coating or wax
Watch Forensic Detailing or Pam the Organiser. They often use technical terms such as contact angle etc. It's important if you're running a business and care about seeing through the smoke and mirrors of marketing.
I can buy and send you the 303 Aerospace product if you’d like. Have you tried Ceramic Pro 9h + Top Coat? Harder to apply than the consumer based products but offers much better protection as it is a thicker professional product.
@@tugbankert6581 What product so you recommend?
First I really appreciate you offering that I will definitely pick it up for myself I would feel guilty to get it free :) I haven't tried Ceramic Pro 9h or topcoat yet what is there expected lifespan?
I utilize Contact angles and coefficient of friction when I apply cream cheese to my toasted bagel. The specific angle allows the most efficient spreading and distribution of cream cheese, or butter 🧈.
I agree with you...Those claims and descriptions are virtually Hot Air.
Thanks for the video! “Contact angle” in the coating world is definitely a popular term/phrase among the people who care about it. It’s the degree at which the water bead sits on the vehicle surface. For example a higher contact angle means the bead is more of a “ball like” and will slide off faster. The lower the contact angle, the flatter the bead will be. I feel like it’s marketing in a sense of people really don’t know what it means but it sounds good. However, there is science behind it and all coating companies boast about it. Not the most important aspect of a coating though.
Thankyou 👍
I agree with most of your input and as for Graphene vs ceramic i suggest doing this, apply both product side by side and let them cure, park your car outside for a month and see which one took a beating ( dont worry ceramic coating will still hold its own but notice the difference) now if you can and or possible? leave it outside for another month or two and see if the ceramic is still present...For a garage queen car? ceramic coating is ok. What really kills ceramic coating is UV and water ie morning dew this is were graphene takes over and out performs Sio2. Btw the above mention is also dependent on how much Sio2 or graphene present on the product/coating you use the more the better the strength and longevity. And back to a garage kept car? a good sealant or ceramic spray like the griots 3 in 1 ceramic spray can outperform a ceramic coating or the top name brand sealant. i haven't used adams but a different graphene coating brand and it out performed the top brands i put up against it. But don't take my word for it and see for yourself what the hype is all about. As for what advancement n the detailing world needs to focus on? for me? UV protection because most of the products out there dont have and f they do have UV protection? its minimal to none.
Thanks for the honesty, it makes complete sense. Subbed
Welcome Warrick! Got to spill the truth as much as I love the marketing
Hey Canadian Rider great video. I actually apply this coating every week on our customers cars. Over the past 5 + years we have done 100s of coatings. I see them often for follow up details, yearly inspections etc. This coating by Adam’s is by far the best we’ve ever seen. I doubt it has anything to do with the Graphene itself but the chemist that came up with this formula has absolutely knocked it out of the ball park. The only other coating that comes close to it so far as far as durability is ArtDeShine Nano Graphene coating. In fact those are the only 2 products we offer anymore. With Adam’s we sell the 1 year spray coating (which is an actual resin coating) not an SIO2 spray, the regular Graphene Ceramic Coating we sell as a 3 year, and the new advanced coating we sell as a 5+ year coating. Good stuff in Northern Michigan climate
Thanks for this on the ground analysis Greg! Good to hear that it’s a great product nonetheless, curious if you can compare it to CQuartz UK 3.0 by chance or optimum products ?
@@carswithsonduren hey bud. I have compared it to UK 3.0 but not any optimum products. I have a friend who’s a Opti installer. I’d love to do a long term comparison with it vs Adam’s Graphene
The pencil hardness scale is a baseline in anything "coatings" from powdercoating to hightemp ceramic coatings.. So if you're looking at a coating thats going to protect a substrate its a very good value to have. Basic research will get you enough knowledge to understand what 10H means.
10H.... I'd like to see how they claim that when every scale I've ever seen goes to 9.
Good info on marketing, and thanks for passing this onto us! Since you mentioned there are some companies who do real R&D on their products, who are they? Are your personal products for your business sourced from them? Since you know what's the best we would love to know from your experience what you've been using now in 2021. Pass it onto us! :)
It would be exciting to try first a graphene coating on your car instead of basing it on what you know. This will give us perspective if this is really effective by trying it first.
Every Detailer who’s been in the business knows about water beading and how water spots are created , 30 years as a professional it’s all about the detailers knowledge and Experience.
Also, they never go in circles when applying or buffing.
If it's the same thing like you said, then I am going with Graphene because it's easier to apply and it does not as quick.
Thanks for making this informative and helpful video
I’m curious on how you can critique of a product you’ve never used. It would have been cool to see an application of coated vs no coated panel, and then you critique their webpage.
Thanks for your video. 😎👍
I wanted to ask you a question, I applied the caramic coating about 1 year ago, since then I clean my car only with water and every 2 weeks I apply the ceramic coating spray just to keep it protected. I have not used shampos again, is this good? Or do you recommend using shampoo from time to time, I honestly don't see it necessary, my paint is always shiny and water-repellent.
Hey Mauricio, glad you found the video helpful and welcome to the channel! I would recommend using a shampoo from time to time to completely wash the car and it should be completely safe on a ceramic as long as it's not a shampoo specifically meant for stripping any type of protection. What car you got btw?!
Is graphene or graphene silica or even Sio2, are any of them toxic when applied to the interior of the car? Is constant contact with that on the interior toxic?
I literally have never owned a car until now that was worthy of polishing... but the first product I tried was a graphene cutting compound plus polish. I did one side of the vehicle after washing to stand back and compare the 2 halves. I was so impressed with the color and shine I thought 'lets see what this does on the unwashed side for sh**s and giggles..' I would sell my soul for a lifetime supply of the product I use. The oxidation, fading, and the absolute extreme shine it gave my vehicle was astonishing. Without even rubbing it in you can watch it penetrate the paint and spread. My cars color is Ford Blueprint code UU (xr6), and the graphene product made it look like it was painted yesterday. The changes with the light in the pearl paint were not visible until that day. If ceramic coating can do that and more...? Time to watch your vid and see I guess. EDIT: Just wanted to add that I live on a dirt road by the sea. I have had no watermarks on the car since that day. I wipe the car with a clean rag only just to dust it off when needed. Applying the same product (polish only) once a month? and even then it didnt require it. Works on my raw aluminium polished wheels and windows also as it repels dirt and the water beads on my car like a frikn grape it sits so high. If I had to do it once every 2 days with graphene for that result vs once every 2 years for a 'Meh' result I would still choose the graphene.
That sounds so great to hear. I love hearing stories like this yes, the ceramic coating will add that additional pop and shine. Wear some glasses before you blind yourself 😎
So which ceramic coat is nice one??
What is the product you use though?! Don't leave us hanging!
Well. As far as i research Ceramics vs Graphene, the biggest advantages are : 1. The Graphene coating has 125 degrees angle compared to 110 degrees of Ceramics wich is a huuuuge difference. and 2. Graphene is resistant to water stains.
What do you mean when you say graphene is resistant to water stains ? Does ceramic coating cause water stains?
@@superk6487 yes
@@nathanrivera6814 That makes sense as I have a magno matte paint on my car with a vinyl stripe on the bonnet with as water marks all over the stripe.These appeared about 18 mths after it was professionally treated with ceramic coating..Thanks for answering Nathan 👍
Thank you for your video
What type of ceramic coating did you use on your ceramic coating
Right now still rocking optimum gloss coat
Hello I am a formulation chemist for a car wash manufacturer, JBS Industries. I am currently working with a graphene wax. I use contact angles all the time to determine the wetting and stand-off of liquids on car clearcoats all the time. A higher contact angle means there is less adhesion of water or another liquid on a treated clearcoat.
surface.
The advantage, that I have seen and mesured is in the surface energy of the treated surface in two components. Some molecules are polar and some nonpolar. Surface energy is the amount of resistance to wetting that a surface has for a given liquid. If a surface has low surface energy in the nonpolar component and the liquid being applied is also nonpolar, then it will "wet out" quickly and spread across the surface. If the surface engy of the surface is high, however, a nonpolar liquid will try to make as little contact with the surface and form a sphere with only a single point of conatct and a high contact angle of the liquid and coated clearcoat.
Graphene is an extremely nonpolar material with high surface energy in the polar component, so it will make water have low ahesion to the surface and be more easily removed by gravity ( roll off ) or being blown off by wind or a blower at the end of a car wash.
Water is quite polar, by the way.
Is it polar or bipolar 🤪
good mkt stuff
i agree with u, how did they test the coating, if they dont wait 7 years? is the 7 years in a garage or daily use, so no company can really test what they claim! only time will tell.............one thing i do like is the uv application.
Really interesting video sharing honest standard consumer opinion. New on this channel (now subbed ;) ), I'll sure check some other videos from you.
Was thinking what to put on my brand new Tesla Model Y with the gorgeous Midnight Cherry Red paint, and this surely help me decide where to go with this ;)
Thank you for the time put into research and editing the video!
Welcome to the channel and congrats on the Model Y!
you gained a new subscriber, thanks for the info
Thanks Hector welcome to the channel lots of great content coming up this year 🤘
Nice video and very informative bro. Never heard of bloody angle contact lmao 😂
I know right this is the first time I've been hearing people talk about this. next they will tell me the amount of subatomic particles are measurable and should matter ;)
@@carswithsonduren honestly man, I’m sure it is quite good but having said that, it is as you so eloquently said, marginally better than a ceramic coating. Just wanted your thoughts since you’ve been doing this for a long time. I had a ceramic coating done on my 2019 Miata 30th Anniversary RF. The paint is a flat gloss racing orange but before the coating was done I had some bad so called detailers wash it and there were a lot of lines and swirls on the paint.
The ceramic coating was able to remove most of the marring and swirls but not all. I am thinking of re coating my Miata with the graphine this time around. Let me know your thoughts. I’m getting it professionally done. Cheers
Bravo 👏 my dude! I have been a weekend detailer since I could start my dads car as a kid and I’ve never been more confused by the amount of over saturated overhyped products. They all claim to make a miracle and I’ve recently acquired a new daily that will be parked outside 24/7 and I came across this because I was debating. Ceramic or graphene for it. I’ve only ever used car pro cquartz UK.
What are your thoughts on the different ceramics ?
Honestly Car Pro cquartz UK is one of the top ceramics in my opinion. Also I'm a big fan of optimum coatings. At the end of the day, they're hydrophobic properties is going to be some combination of how much sio2 content that these have as part of the solution. Unfortunately many do not advertise this but some of the top ceramic coatings with verified reviews of three plus years of protection you know which ones have the higher mix. Go with that do it yourself and you will be happy 😎
Dead on!
I have tried both of Adams Graphene offerings. Both failed regarding durability. I did not like either of them on trim. They did great with gloss. I mean you would have to apply their graphene spray coating once a month to get 1 year + durability. The bottle they sell is large enough to do that. Unfortunately they market it as one application will last a year plus.
Interestingly enough I have found them ( graphene spray coating) to be really quite good on glass.
Thanks for your insight I'm looking to get mine very soon to test as well but I am sure it will leave me wishing for more
Man, I tried the 303 Spray on graphene coating and it was arguably the worst product I ever used after watching several videos on appying it. You are right though, it worked well on glass, but I swear that cheap "Turtle Wax And Dry" works great on glass. At times I'll get lazy and not feel like using the product on every wash, but I always use the Turtle Wax and Dry on my windows! Several times I've been caught in a hard rain just a day or two after using it and never had to turn my wipers on. Hell, Rain X barely works after you use your windshield wipers once. That Turtle product works several times after using your wipers.
Graphene with ceramic is not a happy chemical marriage. In formulas for carwash deposition, the graphene likes to hang onto the wax phase and floats up in almost every formula i've tried. I eventually took out the ceramic and got a cleaner deposition and stable formula. My most stable formula is at 2 months and still not phasing at all.😊
Ceramic and graphene coatings have potential‘s all over the place, but I don’t see a point with vehicles past ceramic honestly. I plan on using ceramic on some power tools and saw blades to help prevent residue from building up, and I know some other woodworkers do as well. Table saw beds and fences are ideal places for slick coatings.
Graphene is supposed to be more resistant to water spotting, which is a big issue with ceramic coatings.
I haven't seen any tests that actually show this to be the case that can be detected outside of a testing lab.
They also have graphene tire dressing ... hopefully you test that as well
Damn... these companies really are stretching it I'll have to look deeper into this
@@carswithsonduren No worries man. Was thinking the tire dressing might be good. But ill wait till you review it. Thanks in advance
What are your thoughts on ppf? Should I do it or should I just do paint correction yearly…
PPF is a must imho. I did it on both cars and it’s 100% worth it.
Im old school , i use sealant with wax on top . It does the job and i keep contact with pain work to a minimum when cleaning . No matter what you use , it wont make the car more reliable or faster 😜
You’re right that also is good!
Watched like half of your video and it's nothing but bashing the product description. Come to the point, show some research, back up your claims. The product you've mentioned is indeed a scam, it's simply infused with graphene and doesn't provide any substantial benefit over traditional ceramic coating. It's just a marketing gimmick.
Exactly what i thought. For someone bashing product descrition, sure full of hinself.. just all talks, no real test.
Great video, very informative content.
Can anyone please tell me how good is Ceramic Pro??
It's probably one of the best ceramic coatings but very expensive. DIY I like CQuarts UK
Thank you that makes sense to me how do you dry your car 🚗?
I use a waffle weave microfibre towel personally which I have found it is the best.
Graphene is the best and it is scientifically proved
pseudoscience?
Graphene offers more protection and superior strength improving toughness and durability. Also no one mentions that it’s one atom thick and is a perfect nano-filler. The carbon grows into cracks over time which in itself is amazing!
@tonyfreeman3800 what does this mean. Does it hide oxidation?
I used the 303 Spray-On Graphene Coating a week after buffing out my truck and waxing it. I guess I'm comparing apples to oranges since the 303 is just a spray-on, but without question, it was the worst spray-on product I've EVER used. First, I worked my ass off applying the product! The hazing was horrible. I easily spent two hours on the vehicle. My truck is a daily driver and I only wash it about once a week unless it gets really dirty, but under normal conditions once a week. On my third wash, it literally no longer beaded up. Just half-ass sheeted off. I was so pissed after working so hard to apply it. I normally use the cheap $5 USD "Turtle Wax and Dry" maybe once every two or three weeks until it is time to rewax my truck again with
You need to use sio2 from 303, yes you need to wipe it hard and not let it sit for very long. Maybe 5 to 10 minutes. If it's hot and 15 if it's cold.
The length of time isn't neccisarily important, the fact it is more resilient than other options is what is important.
Project Farm has great vid that may help so witch is best.
Contact angle is a fundamental and common term in surface chemistry. It is a quantitative (which you say you wanted) way to measure the ability to shed water (which is also what you said you wanted it). EXAMPLE: Mercury for instance has a higher contact angle that water on the same surface, say a table. Beads of mercury are more spherical than water. Less of the surface of a bead of mercury is in contact with the table. So a coating that has a higher contact angle with water will shed water more easily. Google it.
Did you put Ceramic coating on your new Lexus Nx350H ? If yes kindly do a video
I did! th-cam.com/video/hK91-yAUF78/w-d-xo.html
Buy some graphite lock lubricant in a hardware store. Spread the powder on a clean glass surface. Use another piece of glass or razor blade to really force it on. See if it’s hydrophobic compared to untreated glass.
Alright I'll report back hahah 😉
@@carswithsonduren
Looking forward to you receiving a Nobel Prize!
Are you a ceramic pro dealer? Can you do a vs Adam’s Graphene vs Ceramic Pro Gold Package.
No not anymore, but happy to share my thoughts on that as well
What color is graphing coding maybe for a black be beautiful for white I don’t know maybe you can ask for that and I have heard about the angles of graphing coatings
It’s like a black carbon ash colour
Ty
Anytime welcome to the channel
fellow Canadian here. Was going to buy there graphene advanced ceramic coating you just stopped the sale. Now I dont know which coating to buy no more lol
Go with the CQuartz UK 3.0. One of the best coatings you can buy in the market in my opinion now. Glad I saved you :-)
And welcome to the channel!
@@carswithsonduren 2 layers and topped with exo ? its too complicating nowadays
Yeah you can do that! It can get as simple or as complicated as you make it :-)
@@carswithsonduren im looking for something you can apply one coating and be done
Forget "graphene" because its not really graphene. If you want the best coating get opti coat pro 3. Its 5-8 microns thick and is a lifetime coating. Its amazing. I installed it on my 2013 Volvo s60 and its performance is second to none.
Hahahaha What is lifetime? How many year? Optimum is just marketing and it does not protect your car.
@@albertstef9350 the word lifetime is pretty self explanatory.
@@tugbankert6581 you are saing that the coat will last until the car is going to scrap? No matter if is 3 or 30 yrs?
@@albertstef9350 that's exactly what I am saying. It's all in the science. Opti coat is silicon carbide. Just do a Google search on SiC to find out what that is as compared to SiO2
@@tugbankert6581 if you wash the car with foam with ph >12 i gonna vanish right away. The marketing sounds nice but in reality is bollux.
Yo you swirled it up man
I use the 303 it is unreal
Damn can't wait to get my own
Hey man, how tall are you? I ask because It looks like you have a high backed desk chair? What kind is that? TIA!
5”9 and it’s an IKEA chair you will find :)
From what I've seen Gtechniq consumer grade coatings will outperform anything with "graphene" on the label. Still waiting to see differently.
Agreed I have the same view.
Adam's graphene coating is infused and not a true derived graphene. But I will really like Adam's graphene boost spray, graphene detail spray and graphene soap as a supplemental product
I’ll definitely need to try those out soon 👍
The grapheme boost is good. I do tend to like the ceramic coating better. And the 3n1 detailer both from turtle wax.
what color is graphing or white?
It is clear to the naked eye in the solution you would use it in.
Adams graphene is not just a hype product, this is a real product, I stand by this product for life.
Got some experience with it?
@@carswithsonduren the new advanced formula is much superior, check it out
Constructive criticism ❤ :
Dude I could not move my focus from your hands shaking like crazy. Try to work on that. Keep up the good work!
What brand of ceramic coating is on your car? The beading looks amazing!
CQuartz UK 3.0! One of the best I have ever used :)
@@carswithsonduren That's great to hear, I recently put it on my car and bird bombs come off easier than a waxed car.
8:13 could you please quantify? 😂
Joking!
7:51 - Lower sliding/contact angle. I can't roll my eyes enough at stuff like this. What does this even mean to the average Joe? How can this even be measured by the guy down the street. In fact how can professional detailers even test this? And i see this in quite a few ceramic coating ads on the web. Water gliding off the surface of my ceramic coated vehicle is enough for me 😂
I think at the next car meet if someone's going to brag about their turbo or `boost pressure, I'm going to brag about my higher contact angle on my ceramic coating 😂😂
I agree with u 100%. I guess the detailing world figured after all these years without a ground breaking technology to make money from, they had to make something up that sounds good. But it's literally just a ceramic coating with an expensive ingredient in it that still doesn't make a difference in the real world. Detailing world did not progress any with graphene yet.
Exactly it is all just a marketing play now. Don't get me wrong I love all this stuff in a way but at some point it becomes stupid and borders on the edge of lies. I appreciate we need innovation in these product categories, but people should just be more conscious about what they should expect when paying so much money for some of these products
Adams Graphene Coating lost me at 10H....
Here's what's fascinating....three years and graphene has no more industry traction then 2021. Nuff said for me.
Adams actually sells there graphene & ceramic for the same price. As far as being a great detailer science is what you use to apply coatings correctly making the coating last longer. With the extra information you can explain to your customer more about the coating. I do agree with maybe they could show some video's with these new improvements. Years that the coating lasting on any box is in perfect conditions.. so yea that could be better explained if your a customer not a detailer.
So when you polish your car the coat comes off?
Correct any polish will remove any protection
@@carswithsonduren would you recommend ceramic coating for someone who’s car is constantly outside and they never puts it in the garage and there in a state that rains a lot? Because I don’t know if there’s a wax out there that give me the glossy look that ceramic does
definitely for those conditions you want a good ceramic that will give you the most protection and those type of conditions for the longest amount of time. Make sure you have your car properly clay barred and polished so when you apply the ceramic it's going to have the most life and performance
@@carswithsonduren But how am I gonna do the polish and stuff outside all in one day? is it possible I can wash one day and polish and then the next day come outside and wax it, or can you not do that?
Yes as long as you keep the car clean in an enclosed garage it should be fine
I have used both ceramic and graphene on my cars and have found graphene last longer. All my cars are garaged and get washed correctly every time. I generally get 16-18 months of protection with graphene before I start to see a breakdown. I also do all the work myself, I see detailing companies charging $1,000-$1,500 for light polish and ceramic which is absurd. If I was that anal retentive about a car I would just PPF the whole thing.
As a Pro Detailer and I have been using Ceramic (Pro & Prosumer) Coatings since 2007. I have never seen a Ceramic Coating, Pro or Prosumer last more then 4 years with the greatest care, which 99.99999999% clients never do. The claims of the new Grapher Coatings (Adams, Ethos, ect) are just hype and unproven claims.
For example, I just tested Adams Graphene Spray Coating on my daily driver's hood (2006 Saab 9-5 Aero). After 1.5 months the Adams was already started to fail, so much for the claim of 1 year + durability as claimed.
Thanks for sharing your real world experience using the product and it backs my hypothesis as well. Another marketing stunt to drive sales for the next new thing :-)
@@carswithsonduren You are welcome. Its all about false marketing and money.
What about ceramic pro strong spray for industrial?
I work with real nano technology products. Real graphene adds significant scratces and swirls prptection when compared to ceramic coating, this is the biggest difference
Are you trying to say graphene reduces scratches and swirls? Compared to just ceramic alone?
@@marcusbarnes5929huh? Yes. That's exactly what he very clearly stated.
This guy knows his shit.
Just telling it as I see it 🤙
It’s been 3 years and I don’t have a single swirl on my véhicule with just a regular ceramic coating.
Is your car black? Because if not you're hard pressed to tell..
I have the same... More than 2y, black M2... Nothing from swirls. I used armor shield XI. Even on the windshield, from 100km/u need no wipers 🤷
Why not say that they are trying give them credit for any improvements don't knock it be happy for the company still making effort for better.
Happy to give them credit but I just don't feel these products had any true perceptible improvement and instead just using the term for marketing generate more sales. Don't get me wrong this is definitely my hobby and passion, I just feel like sometimes certain companies go a little bit over the line with their marketing and what they claim
Dude's like I don't believe it because they didn't quantify it witj numbers. Then on other things Adams quantifies it with and dude's like I still don't believe it!
For some reason, transcription of your video is in Korean 0_o
Okay now that’s weird 😅
i change the car every year 😂
😂😂
The clear coat you asking about for future...lol Sherwin williams has had for a few yrs. Self healing clear
should turn off the music, should, really should
*haha... 7 years... If you made the effort to buy this stuff to apply it in the first place, you're redoing your car at least once a year, minimum. That's why these products don't come in one-time-use quantities. I can't imagine anyone thinking they'll detail their car once and think it's good for the next 7 years. Maybe if it's a garaged show car.*
Idk if i can trust advice from someone who applies products using a swirling motion
soooo have you actually tried it? can't find the video
This is not true graphene is a must better coating if you use graphene you will see it rise up off the surface of the paint
Graphene is not real. They didn’t find the way to use it to apply it on a surface.
huh
Wasted my money on the Adam’s graphene kit, applicators, towels were complete shit. I used the applicator and towels from a kit that I purchased on Amazon that works much better(Dronar).
Who ever that car belongs to @4:27, it needs a paint correction.
I have answer for you for higher contacting angle mean is water is more sticky , this is bull shit product they just trying to get new on market using marketing , high quality pro ceramic coating is way to go
Were you so skeptical about ceramic coating when it came out? Were any of these skeptical thoughts even valid? This is the first time that I've seen you, but you kind of sound like you have an axe to grind.
Don't let that shit get into your body
Nigga pls say which one is better... Dont draaaaaaag
I have never been in the detailing industry. I’m in my research to get into it. I’m just educating myself about anything related to detailing. I will say that this guy somehow it’s talking a lot of shit, but it makes sense to the point that all marketing it’s the same way. Go ahead and test millions of products that say this and that, can you test them all? At the end it’s the consumer who is really using the product will decide what to believe according to it’s use from time to time. Later you are saying that you are working on your own products, so I hope that you take those 3-7 years of testing that you will claim in your products. So before you put your products on sale, whatever you claim in years, test them and prove your claims.
if you havent tried it yourself, your opinion is null. skippp
Would have liked your opinion but didn’t get it 👎
🤣🤣🤣👍🏼
Graphene coatings are much better than ceramic coatings
How? Can you explain
@@carswithsonduren the water beads and also the water sheeting properties are much better,I’m always noticing less water spotting issues, graphene is much stronger than ceramic and therefore I’m also noticing less love marks aka swirl marks
Fo
You talked for 16min and didn't say a damn thing!
16 minutes of nothing but playing devils advocate