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- On Get Up, Stephen A. Smith and Michael Wilbon join Mike Greenberg on Get Up to discuss Draymond Green’s indefinite suspension.
0:00 KD’s comments about Draymond
1:30 Stephen A.’s take
3:00 NBA is taking a stand
4:00 Wilbon has a more severe reaction
7:00 Stephen A. reacts to the “gutless” comments
9:00 “Zero tolerance”
10:00 The end of the Warriors dynasty
11:30 The last dance?
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SAS gets more angry at AD for not scoring 50 than Draymond punching people in the face.
WORDDD
CORRECT!!
Facts but that’s because SAS is a clown
Yeah he sounded more mad at Steph for this, like it is somehow Steph fault.
I'm mad that you're so right! 😂
The moment the warriors didn’t suspend him for punching Poole, draymond thought he was invincible
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It's actually wild that NOTHING happened to Dray after that. Not even a slap on the wrist. lmao
Nothing to do with Poole, what happend with him an Poole happens in pro and college locker rooms across sports, year after year and there`s rarely suspensions handed out. The only person who should have been suspended/fired in that incident was the person who leaked the footage. On the actual floor he`s crossed the over and over before and after Poole. At this point taking him off the floor is no longer going to have a major impact on deciding the final outcome of the season as it would have in years past when they were title contenders. If they were in 1st place and looking like one of the best teams in the league I guarantee you, this suspension would not have been so heavy handed.
"The only person who should have been suspended/fired in that incident was the person who leaked the footage."
Psychotic.
@@a.vasquez771 The only thing psychotic here is trying to apply normal everyday logic to pro sports. Its a different world and if you have not lived it you have no idea of how different it is. But just to throw you a nugget... Jordan punched Steve Kerr in the eye. Was he suspended? Do we have the video? Two weeks ago the Steelers had two guys come to blows, who got suspended? Where`s the video? Teams and athletes competing at that level have to be able to walk a line, that line is going to get crossed regularly during a season. This is not high school, this is not a bunch kids competing with kids for the citrus league title. These are grown men with children and mortgages competing for their own legacy and livelihood of their families... Stop trying to view that with 17 year old kid logic.
Wilbon with the right take. My man
SAS has been making excuses for Draymond for a long time now.
He’s a clown that’s why
Literally what excuses did he make?😂 matter of fact tell me what an excuse is in general! Do yall even know what that word means??
@@MichaelChillexactly, SAS ended this video literally agreeing with Wilborn. But they think if you aren't jumping on the crucifixion bandwagon then you're "defending" Draymond. Smh
He’s doing exactly what he did with Dana white. Saying he doesn’t agree with the action but still praising the Draymond and not holding him accountable for his actions in the past the dude punched Jordan Poole over some words he can’t be trusted he’s too emotional!!
@timduncansgrandsonbryant8239 Beating your wife is a bit different, though. Ya think🤔
Draymond doesn't need counseling, he needs to check his ego and humble himself
Facts
Humility doesn't remove violent tendencies. Consequences don't work on him. Suspend him for the season, then kick him out of the league after his next offense which will happen in his first 10games back
Yup. Playing the “counseling” card to reduce suspension. Kick him out. End of story.
And somebody fighting back
Imagine if you could go through life punching people in the face and when you end up in court the judge just says oh what a sweet boy he just needs some counseling 😂
I like how I wasn’t the only one to get sick of Stephen A defending draymonds behavior for a long long time compared to other players incidents where he kept it 100..tell it like it is! Michael hit it on the head!
They defend who they like. If it was someone from Detroit no one knows their opinions would be way different.
Agreed. SAS defense of Green - along with others in the media is sickening. Really nice to see Wilbon calling him out.
Or could it be y'all halfway listen because y'all don't like Draymond?
The league is soft we need more players like draymond and less cry babies like nurkic. If you're going to grab the man be prepared for him to get you off of him.
@@KNByamcan't wait to hear Sir Charles Barkley 😮
Not gonna lie, Michael Wilbon talked to Stephen A like his bad child.
This "stop it" was priceless.
Really the only person on the network that consistently lil boys him in the subtlest of ways 😂😂
@@jeanmiess2625 Malika tried it!
But, he was right and it was necessary...
SAS keeps saying he’s got problems outside of work like it’s an excuse. Everyone in the world has problems or issues outside of work but Draymond being selective in is random outburst has nothing to do with that
Exactly and is being coddled for it.
Imagine how insane it would be if you punched a co-worker and then just told your boss “yeah I’m having a bad day no big deal”.
Exactly. I find it almost offensive to even mention any of that stuff. Everyone has problems. One problem Draymond doesnt have is making lots of money to show up and do a simple job without violently attacking people in b*tchmade ways. Making excuses for him and trying to act like he isnt just a prick at his core is a joke to me
The GSW are responsible for Draymond behavior , they never held him accountable for his behavior and its affecting the team even worst now than before.
They let him go on a rampage because they were winning but now it’s biting them back heavily. Steph is at the tail end of his prime and this season has been a disaster for him.
yah why isnt the team that he plays for taking any disciplinary action with him? its wierd they are waiting for a league to be told what happens to him@@misora25chan
Facts
It’s Steve kerrs fault he complains about everything else in the league and world rather then his own team
Bad parenting lol
Stephen A yelling nobody can protect Green and turns right around and starts defending Green.
Michael Wilbon is totally on point!!
10000% the right decision and among Adam Silver's best calls. Well done NBA👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Yea we all know how that program helped Ha Morant. Just give him 10+ games and let’s move on. He won’t change
@@coachYte nah anything less than 25 games is unacceptable. Ja did not have similar issues to Draymond, bringing up Ja is not valid
This feels like a 'last chance' suspension. Next time a permanent ban will be on the table
@@TheMissiIe as it should be, and if it comes down to that, they need to get him out the league
lol but y’all won’t suspended josh giddy????
Wilbon is completely right. It's like having a coworker who you like personally and get along with great but who has issues going on in their life and they're treating it in not the healthiest of ways. You can love them to death and hope that they get help. But at some point...when they become an active detriment to the work environment...when you can attach the term "danger to himself or others" to them...something's gotta be done.
But your coworker isn’t punching coworkers in the face
TOTALLY agree with Michael 💯 💯💯
SAS needs to stop absolving Green. Mad dog said it best, we the fans are sick of his actions and want him suspended for a long time.
You don't speak for all fans. I wish more players were like draymond. The league has gotten soft.
@@alexanderthomas2586Then go watch the UFC junior the fans want to see high level basketball not a clown who can’t control himself.
I like seeing scuffles🤷♂️ There needs to be consequences but I still like seeing it
Scuffles, hard fouls etc.. I agree we want to see that type of intensity. But Draymond clearly in the wrong here.
@@alexanderthomas2586Respect
Steven A sounds scared to keep it 💯 about Green. We remember what he said about Kyrie and Ja Morants father.
lol seems like everybody is scared of draymond like he’s the grim reaper or something
Draymond is suspended. He’s got plenty of time to roam around ESPN’s parking lot, waiting to catch SAS.
@@delloffthewall bruh!! 💀
Love what Wilbon said, "... in what workplace can you assault another coworker?" This isn't the Oscar's, it's a privilege to play in the NBA, and the league does not need Draymond
Wilbon is 100% right, this is serious…
I think Michael’s point is that it’s been escalating for 8 years, which I agree, and I would add that it should have been addressed a long time ago.
Stephen A all, "he got personal things going on." Yes he does, and as Wilbon said, everybody has personal things going on. You don't get to go around choking, stomping, groin kicking, and face punching people because you have personal things going on. Don't know why SAS is tap-dancing around, he starts off saying that Draymond should absolutely be punished, but then starts yammering about he has personal things going on off the court.
Plus he said not too long ago that Poole wasnt "innocent to say that maybe he had it coming in reference ro what happened so hes been all but bikeriding Dray's actions for the longest
Wilbon put it perfectly, the NBPA represents more than just Draymond's interests.
Stephen A. is very fluid when it comes to discipline.
Draymond is the Vontaze Burfict version of the NBA
My toddler came out as trans
@@TransKidsMafiaAnd?
@@TransKidsMafia Sorry
Good comparison. Now imagine if Burfict was as important to his team as Draymond. If the Bengals were Super Bowl Champs with him as the catalyst on defense I just don't know what to do with that.
@@TransKidsMafia 😂😂😂
KD talking about this man like he needs to enter Alcoholics Anonymous 😂
“That was insane”😂
@@VideoRandomChannel he was right but who knows , some said that he was getting him back finally for embarrasing him when they were kn the sidelines during his Warriors stint
Kerr and Warriors silence is embarrassing.
Steve Kerr and management are just as much to blame. You have an employee at the end of the day, and it's their job is to let Draymond know that sh*** don't fly in our organization. Pretty weak at the top of the organization.
ive thought the same thing for years
He should be suspended for the rest of the season.Let him do all of the counseling and rehab stuff during the off season.
Agreed
@@keronfarrier2198can't wait to hear from Sir Charles Barkley
Stephen A has spent way too much time excusing Draymond's behavior, wanting to get him off the hook for all the BS he's done. He needs to get onboard, Draymond is unacceptable!
Plus he said not too long ago that Poole wasnt "innocent to say that maybe he had it coming in reference ro what happened so hes been all but bikeriding Dray's actions for the longest
People are making the excuse of “something now seems to be off with him” but what if he’s gotten more and more aggressive because he’s never really been punished or hurt by his actions?! The Warriors constantly defend him, these analysts defend him, former players defend him. He did all this and still got a 4 year/$100 million contract. Maybe if the league actually holds him accountable, maybe he will grow up!
Michael Wilbon, I am so glad you finally stood up and checked SA! Its about time!
If Michigan Water was a person it would be Draymond. He’s dirty.
😂😂lol you outta pocket 😂
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Charles Barkley said when you can’t play the way you’re used to playing it gets frustrating and you begin to really act out and play dirty because you’re body won’t do what it used to do he said that’s how he was in Houston
Stephen A is scared of losing some relationships😂
I think they are cool with each other with the podcasting biz together and have done joint interviews together too
The biggest blame goes to the Golden State Warriors as an organization for enabling Draymond, and allowing him to do what he’s been doing with this ugly behavior
They traded Poole instead of green. Huge mistake
We need Mike Wilbon on First Take
It was the beginning of the end when Draymond hit Jordan Poole in practice. Steve Kerr and the warriors organization have enabled this type of behavior as if it's normal. Other teams have been championship caliber without needing to strangle, choke, punch or kick someone. Warriors organization will more than likely part ways with draymond green after this season along with Steve Kerr.
Worse, he is very calculating he'll do soemthing then go on his podcast to defend it. He tried lying involving his son and his own son called "cap" (slang for lies) right in front of him, and plus he got some guy kicked out of the game for no reason smh. I believe he had every intention on going to practice that next day to hurt Poole. He was getting cooked by the youngster plus that media driven hype surrounding him being the new "splash bro" had Dray feeling some time of way, it was only a matter of time...
Draymond Green is a WWE heel of NBA 😂😂😂
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Stephen A you tripping. The guy Dray been having issues. Your on point Wilbon
TY MWB u a real one I agree with your take
WWE Royal Rumble is around the corner, Draymond could use that opportunity to keep himself busy, he can do clotheslines without getting suspended and ejected there.
This is who he’s always been.. now that they are losing it’s amplified
Yep, people are saying this is because of Dray's decline, but he's always been inferior to most players when it comes to athletics and skill and did these antics since day one in the league. It's just more enabling from these people. Hopefully it leads to Draymond committing further antics for our entertainment.
Legendary when you out there creating new suspension categories.
Nah it’s nothing off the court with draymond making him act like this, this is just the type of person he is. No excuses
Thank god Wilbon said what I was thinking, everyone has problems that don’t mean you get to come to work and choke and punch co workers...he just enjoys being the villain on the court, some people crave negative attention
No one is talking about the safety of other players and the dangers of injuries that can happen to them.
I thought the more impactful statement from nurkic was when he said “I’m glad I didn’t get choked”
When players are saying that now, you know it’s bad. I had a friend that had an anger issue and he didn’t get the help he needed from anger management until he got fired from his job because of it. It’s a very complex issue and i hope he gets the help he needs but he needs to take accountability first and admit there’s a problem.
I agree but what about the players are they going to feel safe when they play the Warriors with Green on the team
@@jjohnson4013 As a former hooper myself, when someone has an issue like Draymond, the gameplan is usually to get under his skin and get him ejected, but players are probably thinking now he’s gonna go beyond hard fouls like choking and what he did to nurkic so I’m guessing they don’t feel safe with him even out there
Some good passionate chop between brothers. 💪🏾
To Wilbon's point, Larry Johnson's back injury was one of the more drastic illustrations of "before and after" I've seen in professional basketball.
When you've been riding Steph Curry's coattail and got four rings sometimes you feel privileged
It's funny how some fans think INDEFINITELY means 10 games or less and that Draymond will back in early January 2024. SMH
Apparently some people don't know the definition of "indefinitely". Indefinitely could mean forever if Draymond won't be abe to fix his problems to the NBA's satisfaction.
Which means they can allow him to bs his way through like ja 😂
A brilliant discussion -- kudos to SAS, MW and Greeny!
SAS love that word “RAMIFICATION”😂
It’s interesting to me from what i’m hearing across sports talk shows is that they’re starting with the jordan poole incident up until now because you can easily add in draymond yanking down brandon clarke midair in the playoffs in 2022 getting ejected and suspended too lmao
I get that but they're(the media) doing so because they KNOW he was out of order and so does he, it's one thing when its against an opponent but your " fellow brethren " and worse take evey chance he has to justify it. Lol personally I wouldn't be surprised if they thought they saw something marketable in Poole as well and felt like DG ruined that and the team's chemistry
Praying for Draymond to get better 🙏
Prayers do nothing
@@user-pb4hv3wz1j Crossed fingers and hoping and wishing do nothing. Prayer works.
Way to go Mr. Michael Wilborn! - Mike Wilborn won that arguement.(FACTS)
Some of the incidents aren’t listed
I remember Herm Edwards once commented on Grayson Allen, now with the Bucks. Who had/has a reputation as a dirty player. He said he had a "competition disorder." This applies to Draymond as well. I noticed as he ran off the court he seemed a lot more sanguine about this incident. He knew this time it'll be different.
And to his credit, Grayson Allen finally seems to be past that dirty play business. There's hope for Dray to change, but he has to actually work on it and he has to be actually held accountable.
At this point he may or may care about being on the Warriors anymore
Charles Barkley got this exactly right. The reason Draymond acted this way is because he's getting older, and it's getting harder for him to compete and be what he used to be within the rules of the game. So he looks for a way out with these kinds of non-basketball tactics.
In this game warriors are trying to play small, Draymond is on the bigger Nurkic and trying to hold his position and he just can't. He can't hold his ground like he used to and also I think he's getting fatigued.
What he can still do is flail his arms and do a "dirty" play in a last ditch effort to stay competitive.
Stephen A says he agrees and knows whats necessary. The same Stephen A that said 5 games for the choke was too harsh. We are living in the upside-down
Plus he said not too long ago that Poole wasnt "innocent to say that maybe he had it coming in reference ro what happened so hes been all but bikeriding Dray's actions for the longest
When you are no longer at your prime, some athletes can’t control the beast inside. I think it is similar to what Tyson did to Hollyfield
They made the right call on this cause Draymond was a man out of control
This is long overdue by the NBA. If he does need help then he should get it but if you can't control yourself you don't belong on an NBA floor 💯
SAS is afraid to upset his famous friends. Keep it 💯 bro !
SAS failed to realize that his acts are getting worse over time .. that’s the important element in this discussion
I look forward to the upcoming Jalen Rose interview
Amen, cue the 1000000% embarrassing charmin softball questions
I think he’s going to get a 25 game suspension what does everyone else think??????????????????????????
I think 25 to and I love your channel it had me laughing so hard
@@gowithit-nl7os😂😂😂😂I know I think 25
Right on point
Right guess
@@gowithit-nl7osI know
That world-piece elbow was savage
GSW should’ve nipped his antics in the bud back in 2016 when he got himself suspended in the Finals. But nope. Never held accountable.
Perhaps he needs help or has needed help all along. In the words of Dennis Green, “They are who we thought they were.” He is who we thought he was. It went unchecked and now it has fully manifested.
Draymond is the engine to the Supercar that is the Golden State Warriors, but people that engine is blown. I was with Draymond when he got Rudy but that Nurkic hit was literally uncalled for. Love Dray but his actions are costing them, his KO on Poole destroyed them last year & trading JP this year turned out to be a bad move because of how bad Klay is playing offensively & CP too old to hit shots. Poole is playing Horrible out of GSW system too, both side lost the trade that never would have happened is Draymond had self control. His antics cost Golden State Kevin Durant as well, Dray need divine intervention
The only thing that'll work less than therapy is divine intervention😅
The Jordan Poole incident was purpousely leaked to the public. I agree that Draymond needs to be aware about having a target on his back, because there are clearly people outside AND INSIDE of Goldenstate Warriors organization that want the team to implode. That Poole Punch was Leaked on purpouse. They know how important Dray is to the team. He knows it, there competition knows it, the league knows it.
It’s not going to stop! Some people are just like that
It’s unfortunate that Giannis record breaking game has to get overshadowed by this dude.
trust me, that has not over shadowed Dray's situation
Let's be real, while they mention the hypothetical, this wouldn't be happening if Draymond was on LeBron's team.
Facts. That speaks to the actual leadership of Lebron and how he manages his team, compared to Steph and his lack of actual leadership.
They going at it like they on PTI!!😂
Wilson Wilson speaking the truth and like that he is right there going at it with Smith. You can be compassionate while also being truthful.
If Draymond was on Lebron's team, Lebron would be getting all the smoke. Yet, no one is asking about Curry. The standard is crazy
Wrong example, Draymond is also a leader on the team, so its not Steph job to lead him, the guy just screwed up , simple as that. If you want to bring in Lebron here, then imagine when Lebron was playing with DWade and Wade blew people off and get suspended, you think Lebron will get the smoke too? Of course not, it would be Wade who get criticized and people would feel sorry for Lebron for having a bad teammate. Nobody expect Lebron to "lead" DWade. People expect Lebron to lead Kyrie and AD, but not DWade, get the difference?
Draymond wouldn’t be doing that playing with Bron. For one, you’re not gonna out vocal Bron in a locker room or on any court. Draymond doesn’t respect Steph the way he respects LeBron.
@@tigera6 I didn't bring up Lebron. Stephen A brought it up and it's a valid question. Warriors is Curry's team. You think of Warriors first thing comes to mind is Steph Curry
Curry isn’t on LeBron’s level. You’re right overall but the media doesn’t hold Steph to the same standard. LeBron is arguably the greatest to ever do it
@@sladesurfer Hes set the culture but hes not the vocal leader of the team, Draymond was. I dont see Curry in the same light as Kobe or Lebron or MJ in term of leadership. Hes more like Steve Nash type who is more quiet in the locker room.
Adam silver definitely had to be involved. It’s happened too much. How many games yall predicting Draymond will end up being gone?
Probably till the new years
10
Probably 10 max. Adam silver is soft
Draymond is slowly becoming like Antonio brown. We might see the first basketball player diagnosed with CTE.
LA WCF should be very interesting between LeBron, AD, CP3, and Draymond vs. Kawhi, PG, Harden, and Russ. Four stars vs. four stars. Clippers needs an AD stopper.
the Warriors window closed the moment Green threw that punch at Poole!!! Team chemistry was ruined, and he has done everything in his power, to make sure it never comes back.
The NBA has been so soft with the players and so this is why things like Ja and Dray falling out.
You must be forgetting what’s happened in the past every few years.
They won’t be able to hold him out too long due to the union.
True, but Kerr can just keep him on the bench and play him only a few minutes a game.He only averages 9 pts a game.
Please, be serious. Kerr is never gonna punish Draymond. He’s the ultimate enabler @@ernestbailey3270
Tell him Wilbon!!
Greeny talking like it’s a national crisis 😂😭😭💀
Dray is just washed and having a hard time dealing with that reality so like all little kids who haven’t grown into manhood he resorts back to violence. Triple single is oh such a fitting nickname for him now.
Hes staying out of shape most of the regular season and look like pure trash at times. And then he get mad when hes cooked by the other players, leading to retaliation and dumb action.
“Never seen anything like that on the basketball court in a nba game” is a crazy statement
It's kinda true about Draymond though. Yeah there used to be more fist fights - but during the heated 80's rivalries I never saw a guy trying to kick dudes in the nuts or stomping on their chests. Even a guy like Laimbeer who was the dirties player mostly did dangerous hits in the paint and started fights, he wasn't nut shotting dudes for no particular reason.
Not true. KD is soft so not surprised about his soft comments.
Maybe what Durant is trying to say is that Draymond's hit to Nurkic came from nothing, he just suddenly punched the dude. They were NOT on a heated back-and-forth, physical plays on previous possessions, Nurkic was just straight-up defending Green, and then boom, a punch/slap was thrown.
lol right, like Draymond wasnt bout to swing on KD too. Draymond been wildin
Wasn’t SAS saying yesterday that 10 game suspension would be too much???🤔
I love Michael Wilbon! I'm sure Steven Adams has something to say as well!
Stephen A is a joke of a human being.
A+ from Wilbon
I knew SAS would rock back and defend Draymond again after having no room to do it yesterday
See what happens when everyone pumps someone up continuously letting them know they are the enforcer and they love the way he acts defending his teammates and how he is on the court?
It's just Draymond. What help? He ain't crazy, just temperamental.
You get it!
Good, about time the league did something right 👏🏽👏🏽
🤣💯SAS and Wilbon
I ain’t gonna lie when Rudy gobert lifted him hand up like he was confused at why somebody was holding his neck,I died.
The man won’t ever try to part a disagreement again 😂
the funniest part about the Draymond karate chop is after he hits the dude, he goes into acting like he got hit or pushed or something, then tries to explain to the ref that he's being grabbed!!! Sheeesh
You would've thought he was shielding himself from a grenade lol. But even funnier than that is him winding up twice before the hit 😂.
As Barkley says .., his problem is he can’t play on the same level anymore…
Imagine the documentary for this incident.
😂 i feel like everyone blowing this outta proportion
THANK YOU WILBON. Stephen A not standing on bidness