The Murder Of Kitty Roman - Miller's Court 2nd July 1909.
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- In the early hours of Friday, July 2nd, 1909, Kate "Kitty" Roman - whose surname was spelt in many newspaper accounts of the crime as "Ronan" - was found murdered in her room, number 12 Miller's Court, off Dorset Street, in Spitalfields.
In this video you will learn how Kitty, like many of the women in Victorian Spitalfields was leading a transient existence in the common lodging houses of the district, until, in March 1909, she had taken up with a a man by the name of Henry Benstead.
He last saw her alive on Commercial Street on the evening of the 1st of July.
The video then investigates the final sightings of Kitty, before describing how Benstead arrived home at 1.3am and found her body on the bed of their room in Miller's Court.
At first, it seemed as though, just like the murder of Mary Kelly, the last victim of Jack the Ripper, whose body had been found in her room, 13 Miller's Court, the perpetrator of Kitty Roman's murder was also going to escape justice.
But then, a few weeks later, Harold Hall walked into a police station in Bristol and said that he was wanted for a murder he had committed in London.
The video then tells the full story of his arrest, his return to London and of hi trail at the Old Bailey, at which he was sentenced to death.
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Brilliant as always Mr. Jones.
I can’t imagine how it must have felt for Jeremiah O'Callighan living in the very same room as the ghastly murder of Mary Kelly. I’m not superstitious at all, but that would most surely have sent shivers down my spine regardless.
I suppose there may even have been residents who lived in Miller’s Court throughout all three murders. Not the safest block in the Empire that’s for sure.
No, it was considered the most crime-ridden Street on the East end. I have questions about people staying in Miller's Ct., particularly the same room as Mary Kelly also. I'm not superstitious at all but I don't know if I could sleep in the same room.
If you believe that Mary's energy may be lingering, wouldn't it be wonderful if she could end the mystery once and for all. Just who was Jack the Ripper, and were the canonical five all murdered by the same person?
Miller's Court definitely seems a very dangerous place to live. Perhaps it is a good job it no longer exists. Hall most probably throttled her in a fit of temper, vented his anger on her a bit more, and then spent a week hating himself for it. At least he had the decency to own up to it. The police officer must have been a good hearted man, to intervene on his behalf. Poor Kate.......
Just wanted to say that the effort you put in to these videos is appreciated. Many thanks.
Thank you, Richard, for taking us on another journey into the past! 💞
My pleasure!
Looking from the side window of the upstairs room where Kate Roman was killed, just 10 or so feet across the courtyard, the ground floor windows of Mary Kelly's room, and the upstairs windows (of the room directly above), where 1898 victim, Liz Roberts, was murdered could be seen, from the same vantage point.
The fact that 3 women were killed in such a tiny corner of London, gives us an indication of just how dangerous that part of Spitalfields actually was.
Thank you again for such a tantalising snapshot of old Victorian London! Thoroughly enjoyed it as always. I’m glad Hall received that reprieve and was able to forge a respectable career for himself. Wensley sounds like he would have been good on the JTR investigations!
On a separate note I was wondering the other day how the JTR murders affected other parts of London or even the country. Even other classes, such as middle and upper classes. There must have been reporting in the press no doubt and fear all round, but I also wondered if the women or maids in the West End households had to take extra care and precautions for example. Just a thought anyway and may not be much there to look at but just a curiosity I had.
Many thanks for your stellar work as always 👏😊👍
Those are some good questions. Maybe he can talk about that.
The next video will look at how different people were affected by the crimes, Omar. Pleased you enjoyed this one.
@@JackTheRipperTours That’s fantastic! I can’t wait, I’m sure that’ll be great and delivered in your inimitable and expert style. Look forward to it and thank you 😊
@@JackTheRipperTours I’m looking forward to that.
Love your videos. Phone ringer on mute, cup of coffee and footstool out on reclining chair and enjoying your new upload....bliss.
Another interesting video Richard! The 4 Hall brothers were British Home Children, sent from Strangeways Workhouse (Manchester), to work as indentured farm hands in Canada. Harold, Joseph, John & WJ Hall came to Canada on the ship Sarnia in 1892 as part of a group of 139 children. Destination Belleville, Ontario but dispersed from there. In many cases these BHC children were not treated very well at all.
That's rea;;y interesting. Thanks for the info.
Fantastic as always! Thank you so much for these wonderfull documentaries😊
Fascinated about old London especially jack the ripper love to go back in time from the first murder to the last one and see & smell what he was like again fascinating history thanks for giving us this 👍👍
So would I. Unfortunately, I’d be begging to come back after a few days, because the lack of electricity, decent hygiene, tv, internet, even just comfortable clothing would probably drive me mad. I’d rather be poor in the 2020’s than rich in the 1880’s from my understanding of the time.
Thanks Richard. I listen to these stories during my lunch break at work. And it's is as though I am there in person.
Glad you enjoy them, James.
I wonder if the next person to inhabit Mary Kelly’s room in millers court knew it’s history? Or whether they had already moved in before they were told. Either way it would be a spooky room to stay in. It’s a shame that building was demolished. So much of Whitechapel was demolished, probably rightly because of slum conditions, but I’m a great believer in fixing up a building inside and keeping it standing, than to demolish the lot and lose it forever as we have. Imagine taking a ripper tour today through the EXACT same streets and buildings?
Like in places like York where they do the ghost walks and all the buildings are still there.If it was Spitalfields today with all the buildings there and doing the ghost walks and Jack the Ripper walks.
The next residents did know because a policeman came to visit the roomthere was still blood on the wall from Mary kelly, an old man was in his bed facing the wall with blood on it and it seemed not to bother him & his wife who lived there.
Hadn't heard of this one. Very interesting cases on your channel. Never disappoints
Glad you enjoyed
Another great story! Super writing that evokes the period complimented by great images. Well done!
Thank you very much, Robert.
Another brilliant edition.
Also, I love this channel. As a ripperoligist it’s lovely to learn NEW things about the east end.
That's very kind of you.
Well done! I hadn't heard of this one. Thank you!
Thanks for listening
Amazing video! Very interesting indeed! Thank you 😊 Joanne from Singapore 🇸🇬💕
So nice of you
@@JackTheRipperTours It's my pleasure 😊❤️💕
Good stuff, Richard, as always.
Thank you, Mark.
Always excellent. Thank you.
Great story ,awesome amount of research ,love the narrators ,characters accents
Thank you, Anthony.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
So Hall has an attack of conscience then goes on trial saying he’s innocent. Weird. Why say anything? And did they actually “connect”? If I’m not mistaken, he claimed he threw her on the bed and stabbed her. No mention of jollies. Great video as always!
It seems as if he had mixed the truth with lies which is a frequent thing with habitual liars.
I sense there is a certain something he is omitting which happened between throwing her on the bed and stabbing her neck...
This is Another piece of the puzzle of what everyday life was like in Jack The Rippers London. Right when I think I have a good idea what it was like, I find how little I do know. For example , I was of the mind that only the down and out acholic women were prostitutes' with there only goal was to earn enough for a bite to eat ,warm Rum , and a bed for the night. I had no Idea that there were women with respectful jobs and sober habits that were also pushed into prostitution. I fined these videos fascinating.. Thanks Richard !
Imagine occupying Mary Kelly's room.
There are women using the rooms of the victims of Ted Bundy in the sorority house. There's no memorial to the women who were killed and the women living there are young and wouldn't know hardly anything of Ted Bundy
Of note is the Home Secretary at the time was Herbert Gladstone son of former PM William Ewart Gladstone.
It hurts me these women typically died under the wrong name... i know that time was different but it just seems one more heap of indignity...
And now Dorset Street is a row of shops. Great video.
Yes! Thank you!
A great detailed narrative.
Thank you, Natalie.
The report says that Kitty had been killed during or just after intercourse, why did the police not account for that fact when considering Halls confession? According to Hall he went into a rage and threw her down and stabbed her when he found out she was trying to rob him. There seems to be a missing link. What was her going rate? Was it the amount she held in her hand? Why no struggle? Feels like there’s something wrong with this case…
Well, it very likely could have been another man, and nothing to do with the murder.
Thank you.
You're welcome!
It seems that Dorset Street had a blood curse upon it!!!
It would appear so, Tornado!
@@JackTheRipperToursYeah. I’m not exactly a strong believer in curses however I am open minded about it as a neodruidess. It is true a lot of blood was shed in that area.
Oh dear - a name sake and she got murdered...
And they say lightening doesn't strike the same place twice. I would love to know whether everyone in the area at that time feared the return of Jack.
July 2, 1909. The day that my paternal uncle came into the world. He was my father's oldest brother.
Another great Jack the Ripper video.❤😊
Uploader, can you do a video on John Gill, the 7-year old who was murdered in Bradford in 1888? Some say he may have been the victim of the Ripper.
Love too learn more about history
A sign that we've outgrown the times. The testimony at 8:07 should read, "Three -and-sixpence in silver and eightpence-ha'penny in bronze". Halfpenny is 'hayp'ny'. 'Three-and-sixpence' might also be 'three-and-six'.
Interesting and very weird story.
Indeed.
It's strange he's said to be "reprieved" but then the retired detective says he was released during the war. That sounds more like a commutation of sentence. Or am I confused?
Housing availability must have been drastic for people to be living not just straight above but actually *in* Mary Kelly's room. I realise people couldn't have avoided living where others had died, or even been murdered, but to live there I think you'd have to be very hardhearted, desperate, or both.
Thank you and kudos as always.
A flat in my town came up for sale recently where a notorious murder (of a child) had been committed in the 1930s. No mention of it on the estate agent's brochure (unsurprisingly, I suppose) but the photos showed the room where the murder occurred to have, structurally, changed little in almost 100 years. I do wonder if whoever bought it had any idea of its history. I was tempted to arrange a viewing but thought better of it in the end.
Out of interest, why isn't there an in-depth "Jack the Ripper Tour" video about Mary Kelly's murder? (I stand to be corrected, but I can't find one).
Hi Chris. At the moment her video is part of the Jack the Ripper victims video. I do plan to do a full video on her though.
@@JackTheRipperTours Thanks! I look forward to it...
Brilliant
Thank you.
BRILLIANT!
Rough neighborhood.
all those people that died in that one court. how horrible. when was Miller's Court ripped down?
1928
Mary Kelly was a chubby faced 40 something? @0:04
Also, I think it was advisable to never live in Miller's Court.
It's the drawing from "Police News". (At 0:04, I mean.)
Yeah, that drawing of Mary Kelly never lined up with the many descriptions of her. Not sure if any photographs of her in life will ever be found.
Well the drawing is a hell of a lot more flattering than the police photos of her.
@@octowuss1888 since the only police photos of her are after her murder then you'd be correct.
You can tell by the infamous photo of her that she was far from overweight. In fact she was incredibly skinny which you can plainly see -- and is self evident given the impoverished nature of her time & location. I doubt there were too many overweight people in 1880s East London.
As a non British person I have to ask : How much was/is a Shilling worth? Back then and now?
Hi Storm Witch, A shilling was 12 pennies. In today's money it is/was 5p.
@@JackTheRipperTours Thank you
@@JackTheRipperTours Thanks. I was confused as well. I can’t believe it was that much.
@@JackTheRipperTours True, but don't forget the change in value due to a century or so's inflation. Things I bought as a child for one shilling, in the 1950's now cost infinitely more - indeed, in some cases several pounds. Go back to Kate's day, and it would be even more.
My father said that the family food shopping for the week / month (I can't remember) cost only £5 back in his day. These days you'd barely get a sandwich and a drink for that. Back in 1888 a Shilling was a lot of money.
Imagine the fear women would have had living in that vacinity after what happened to Mary Kelly. And imagine living in Mary Kellys room after what happened there 😳
A 👍Presentation as Usual 😉
Thank you.
Could this be another Ripper murder ?????
No. He would be in his 40s, at least, by this time. The confessed suspect is very definitely the killer.
Bit of a liberty, helping this guy get reprieved. He murdered somebody whose destitution he was already abusing. I don't care if she was trying to take a penny from him.
I think the Police officer really believe the guy was totally remorseful towards his actions and he see that he is really good person who did a terrible act because of circumstances. Mind you, the chief detective is a veteran police officer and is most likely very knowledgeable of all sorts of people and the criminal world. The guys conversation with him on the train most likely affected the officer greatly and knew the guy is truly sincere, but doesn't want die either, so most likely was convinced by the defense lawyer to retract his confession. His reprieve is more like life-sentence, however during the war, governments usually offer reduce sentences to prisoners to fight in the war. He's just lucky he survived that war and maybe his superior officers in the army gave positive testimonies regarding his character that warrant a much earlier release to just 25 years.
Sex and nudity! In 1889, I am sure that sold newspapers who knew a lurid story when they heard it. Roman probably was on the game and often added to her income with a little pilfering on the side. Murder, prostitution, pimping. The paper and the police ran a fine line between what they knew and what they could say. Hall might have done it and repented later. This long after the fact, it's hard to know. Thank you for a bit of Victorian history.
If reincarnation is a fact then underhypnosis..
If the murderer was known to the weman..
It could be.. shown by name
They say usually it is someone theyve known he possiable give his name..
Just a thought..
Long haul as first, they'd.. have to do the hypnosis .. and a past life be shown .. that they where murdered in one of the areas
Why did the officer feel bad for the killer?! 🤷🏼♀️
Thank you.
You're welcome!