George Lusk And The Letter From Hell.

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  • Of all the letters from Jack the Ripper that were sent in the wake of the original "Dear Boss" missive, the one that many people believe has the greatest claim to having been sent by the murderer is the "From Hell" letter that was sent to Mr. George Lusk.
    On the 10th of September, 1888, two days after the murder of Annie Chapman, a group of local businessmen and tradesmen had got together and formed the Whitechapel Vigilance Committee, with the intention of supplementing the police presence on the streets of the East End of London. They met at the premises of their treasurer, Joseph Aarons, proprietor of the Crown pub on Mile End Road. At their inaugural meeting, they appointed local builder and decorator George Lusk to be their Chairman and President.
    Over the next few weeks, George Lusk petitioned the Home Secretary, Sir Henry Matthews, urging him to sanction on official reward for information that might lead to the apprehension of the Whitechapel murder. His entreaties, however, consistently met with official rejections.
    But, his battle with the Government was covered extensively by the newspapers, and, as a consequence, his name appeared in the papers on a daily basis throughout the first two weeks of October, 1888.
    As a result, he attracted the attention of several unsavoury characters and by the 10th of October he was being stalked by some of these.
    Once again, the newspapers gave maximum coverage to Mr Lusk's problems with these stalkers, and this brought him to the attention of a Jack the Ripper letters writer, and he too began to receive letters from Jack the Ripper.
    Then, on the evening of Tuesday, 16th October, a small package was delivered to his house in Alderney Road, Mile End. Inside was a letter addressed "From Hell" and wrapped inside it was a portion of kidney, which, on being examined by several doctors, was declared to be a portion of human kidney,
    The letter's author, claimed that the kidney was part of the kidney that had been removed from Catherine Eddowes, who had been murdered in Mitre Square in the early hours of the 30th of September, 1888.
    In this video Richard Jones looks at the circumstances behind the receipt of the kidney by George Lusk, and presents the case both for and against its having been sent by the murderer.

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  • @mariuszstanisawczyk8990
    @mariuszstanisawczyk8990 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    So the FBI investigator John Douglas thought that corespondence "From Hell" could be true for couple of reasons: The writer didn't used Jack the Ripper name in the letter; letter was wrote to Lusk (and not the Police or Press); it actually contained part of human kidney (non other letters did); it was written in crude and primitive language and caligraphy (it was suggested that the Ripper was actually someone from the social class of his victims); phrase "catch me when you can" can be read as taunting but also as a "cry for help" - catch me, because i can't help myself; lastly the suggestion of cannibalism - killings were gruesome enough and yet the author suggested it. So its interesting that everyone was so eager to call this letter as a hoax and yet it was the only one which contained smth of a proof. And after the invention of modern criminal profiling the investigators are suggesting that the content of the letter is very much consistent with a personality of the killer.

    • @dahlizz99
      @dahlizz99 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes. I mean a kidney.. feels weird to dismiss it right away. Who would hoax that?😂 and even if you did hoax it, you're messed up enough to be on Jack's level anyway.

    • @Sudarshan_rm
      @Sudarshan_rm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dahlizz99 it could be an animal kidney..that kidney was never proved tht it is eddows or even human kidney..

  • @richardmorgan1624
    @richardmorgan1624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    This channel deserves a wider audience.

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Thank you, Richard.

    • @slapntickle8249
      @slapntickle8249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree rich,, however people are brain dead these days

    • @mortimusmaximus8725
      @mortimusmaximus8725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It will soon, be alot bigger 😍

    • @markrowley2739
      @markrowley2739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Spot on Richard, one of my favourite reasons to log onto TH-cam

  • @markrowley2739
    @markrowley2739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Love your content. No bending of truths and facts to fit a narrative...just pure facts with the principle of education the objective.

  • @sciencefirst7880
    @sciencefirst7880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is the go-to channel for Jack the Ripper!

  • @091053JG
    @091053JG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Richard Jones is an outstanding Ripperologist. I think it was authentic because the writer did not use the name “Jack the Ripper”. He was rejecting that name.

    • @deancordery5935
      @deancordery5935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @091053JG
      Yeah I agree the letter too Mr Lusk is 99.9% certain it was a genuine letter and kidney part the letter looks far more convincing than all the other letters something about that letter draws you in I've read all the letters but that 1 letter and part of the left kidney is what makes it all the more realistic great video again Richard

    • @theredqueen2283
      @theredqueen2283 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Charles lechmere

  • @rociomiranda5684
    @rociomiranda5684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Excellent series of videos. I appreciate your research and objective presentation. It seems interesting that the From Hell letter wasn't signed "Jack the Ripper."

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good point, Rocio. I'm pleased you like the videos.

    • @patriciajrs46
      @patriciajrs46 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was also thinking that. Could it have been a copycat killer? Why anyone would copy that insane man, is insane in my opinion.
      There were a couple letters that weren't signed with his usual signature.
      Was it ever determined, by means of science, that H. H. Holmes was the Ripper?

  • @davestewart5224
    @davestewart5224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Your videos are just chock full of facts and information I’d never heard before. They really bring the case to life ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @ftargle-bargle6974
    @ftargle-bargle6974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Has anybody considered the possibility that the kidney package & letter could have been sent by the so-called "Thames torso killer" and not "Jack"?
    Emma Marsh's description of the man she spoke to being around 45 doesn't seem like a medical student playing a sick prank.
    Great informative video about Lusk. I hadn't heard of the details of Marsh's encounter before.

    • @Simp_Zone
      @Simp_Zone ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The most likely conclusion, as has been proven with most mysteries, is that aliens from the planet Zazz came and did all the crime.

    • @drunkensailor112
      @drunkensailor112 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The thames torso killer was jack the ripper

    • @carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526
      @carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@drunkensailor112no,the ripper was Spring Heeled Jack all along.

    • @titanman9000
      @titanman9000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@drunkensailor112I agree and I think it was lechmere personally.. a cart man would always have reasons to have parcels of meat on him

    • @michaelgrey7854
      @michaelgrey7854 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No because the Kidney was proved to be a part of the decessed.

  • @davethomas3791
    @davethomas3791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wonder if one of the suspicious characters was Jack the ripper? Scary stuff.

  • @itkapatanka
    @itkapatanka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jubilee Street was where the Anarchist Club was around the time of the Siege of Sidney Street, 1911. It's such a shame the East End has been so destroyed since WW2.

  • @dupplinmuir113
    @dupplinmuir113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It would be ironic if one of the doctors who was asked to examine the kidney was actually Jack the Ripper!

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a good point.

    • @cutekanjii
      @cutekanjii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like I'm the jack the ripper film with Michael Caine which makes out sir William Gull was the killer and examined the kidney in the film. Was a very good, entertaining film but the ending was ridiculous. I know for tv/cinema they have to have an ending especially in a whodunit but it was just silly

    • @avega2792
      @avega2792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cutekanjii I just saw it and I liked it, even though it was akin to a Scooby Doo cartoon with the unmasking at the end I still liked it a lot.

  • @andrewjohnson388
    @andrewjohnson388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yes ..very good as I studied the case ...still the old books ...Martin Fido ..Paul Begg etc has the most studied facts from the files. Glad I found this ...really well done.

  • @pixiewings21_9
    @pixiewings21_9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    These videos are terrific. Just what I need to take my mind off what's going on world-wide right now... Granted, it's fairly gruesome subject matter, but it's just so darned interesting. Thanks for your work

  • @marshrabbit7565
    @marshrabbit7565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Seems odd to keep it in a drawer for two days.

    • @rachelraquel758
      @rachelraquel758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Especially if it smelled

    • @bruggeman672
      @bruggeman672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Given the time period what else could he have done with it?

    • @rachelraquel758
      @rachelraquel758 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bruggeman672 throw it in the river

  • @thermscissorpunch1787
    @thermscissorpunch1787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ooooohhh a “thither” ... how marvelous

  • @jessicamilestone4026
    @jessicamilestone4026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant video. Thank you once again.

  • @searcher7478
    @searcher7478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    These videos are priceless Richard! Thank you very, very much 👋

  • @user-rx1mq3wb4x
    @user-rx1mq3wb4x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am an American who has always been fascinated by the Whitechapel murders Listening the the mellifluous cadence of Mr. Jones' voice is soothing and reassuring He is a great narrator and I always feel I have been told the truth and am satisfied I have learned more facts in the ongoing saga of Jack the Ripper I look forward to watching every episode and highly recommend subscribing to this channel if you are a student of these crimes Well done Mr. Jones

  • @GrantTarredus
    @GrantTarredus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beautifully conceived and executed! Thanks for the education. I subscribed immediately.

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your kind words, Stuart, Thanks for subscribing.

  • @rich9697
    @rich9697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love watching these. I live in the area where it all went down, and I'm totally fascinated by it all.

  • @toddbonin6926
    @toddbonin6926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Simply fascinating!

  • @elguapo42
    @elguapo42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your videos !

  • @dthomd
    @dthomd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Fantastic video, Richard. I had never heard of the disturbing encounter between Lusk and the pencil carrying man. I would be most interested to know if you think the From Hell Letter was penned by the killer.

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you, pleased that you enjoyed it. Personally, I don't think it was written by the killer, but, of course, anything is possible.

  • @slapntickle8249
    @slapntickle8249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the video,, please do more👍🍻

  • @wopjohn
    @wopjohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So basically like USA neighborhood watch

  • @ThRealOJT
    @ThRealOJT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This could have been a gang. Obviously due to the Ripper on the loose, normal petty crime or even still more serious crime would be harder to commit. Therefore people holding an issue with the Vigilance Committee for patroling the streets during criminal hours. I can see why the average criminal enterprise/gang would hold an issue with Lusk.

    • @ThRealOJT
      @ThRealOJT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really would love this to be Jack though.

  • @zero_bs_tolerance8646
    @zero_bs_tolerance8646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you.

  • @slmndow
    @slmndow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks!

  • @DavidLeeAndrews
    @DavidLeeAndrews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another great video, Richard. If you ever need someone to do a good cockney impersonation, please cast your ear towards yours truly, g’uv, and I’d be more than happy to help.

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I may well take you up on that David. How's your polish accent?

    • @DavidLeeAndrews
      @DavidLeeAndrews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JackTheRipperTours - Da! Is good.

  • @richarddemuth7077
    @richarddemuth7077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The doubts I have about the killer taking the kidney are that IF HE extracted the kidney to either "preserve" or to "eat" it then WHY didn't he also do the same with the allegedly removed uterus. At least the portion or piece of kidney that was sent to Lusk indicates that a kidney was taken from the body, while there is NONE for the uterus. As far as the part being from either the right or the left kidney, that would be INPOSSIBLE determine UNLESS the attachment of the renal artery was present. There is NO gender to a kidney so it would not have been possible to determine if it was taken from a female and of what age. Having been preserved in alcohol, it would NOT be possible to determine if it was the kidney of an alcoholic. While the kidney could have and probably DID come from Eddowes' body (since an "autopsy" was done on it) it is MOST PROBABLY the "AUTOPSY DOCTOR" who took the kidney out and sent a portion of it to Lusk. This is indicated by the strange appearance of the cutline on the body. It does not go straight down to the pubes as a killer in a hurry working in the dark to extract a difficult to reach organ from the front would do but inexplicably becomes curvy and swerves down the abdomen in an undulating line. furthermore, there is indication in the oblique horizontal photo of Eddowes at the mortuary that BEFORE the wounds on the face and throat were sutured there was NO slit down the torso and that the shadow lines interpreted as such are merely discoloration blemishes on the image. This would also be true of the big black blotch visible at the base of her sternum whereas in the full frontal photoimage there is NO sign of any such rupture along the suture line necessitating extra stitching. And the faint outline of a possible slit on the pre-suture photograph is slightly different from that of the course of the suture line. THIS would NOT be possible for the suture line to follow a different course from that original one of the slit. Therefore, if the photographic evidence indicates that the "autopsy doctor" at the mortuary did it, then HE was also the one who extracted the kidney and probably, sent part of it to Lusk. It can also be asked why he didn't send the whole thing. He certainly didn't eat it. UNLESS it WASN'T sent directly to Mr. Lusk from the doctor but to a COCONSPIRATOR who sent it with the "Ripper" character messages he was creating. Maybe the COCONSPIRATOR didn't want to deal with the entire kidney. UNless the "doctor" DID give him the entire kidney but being a manic cannibal he did eat it. These suppositions are NO LESS valid than those of the doctors at the time, and are BASED ON THE FACTUAL APPEARANCE OF THE BODY in the two photographs; which the medical men weren't looking at when they were studying the piece of kidney. THEY wouldn't have necessarily known what went on at the "autopsy" if they weren't there.

  • @minkster5054
    @minkster5054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I dont think any of the letters were by the ripper. Wether there were multiple 'rippers' or the one, he relied on blending in. I'm positive the killer(s) was a local - not a new arrival or foreigner. The murders relied on in depth and constant knowledge of the area, including where the police, vigilance patrols and general foot traffic would be. He was one of their own and wouldnt taunt or announce his presence.

  • @dsaword2622
    @dsaword2622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very good video never heard about the stranger meeting lusk I see the lusk house still there its flats now the pub in front is where the luck vigilante group met I think

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pleased you enjoyed it.

    • @cutekanjii
      @cutekanjii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's quite likely that was the letter writer but not Likely jack since none of the witnesses described him with a beard or a man that looked like that. Plus the women probably would have stayed away from him in that drawing, if it was enough to startle lusk and not want to be alone with him based on his appearance then at the height of the paranoia for the prostitutes, this is the stereotype of the killer. It could also have been, a disguise though, the man that visited lusk may have disguised himself.

  • @Icedmorgans
    @Icedmorgans 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great content, just subbed .

  • @afcb3300
    @afcb3300 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @bruggeman672
    @bruggeman672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think it was real and the From Hell letter was the only one really from the killer. The others are imo pretty clearly done by unscrupulous reporters. I have seen far too many cases of police incompetence to feel these cops, in the infancy of law enforcement, were up to the task of catching a serial killer, simple as that. I doubt they ever really had a chance unless he turned himself in covered in blood and viscera.

    • @atorthefightingeagle9813
      @atorthefightingeagle9813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The From Hell letter is the only one that displays clear insight into the psychology of a serial killer, something that was not understood at the time. The sender claims to have cannibalised a trophy organ in classic serial killer behaviour and doesn't condescend to use the Jack The Ripper moniker. I believe it was genuine too. After all the killer had been reading many hoax letters written on his behalf for two weeks and was probably prompted against his instincts to cut through the BS. The half of kidney was likely to be his definitive proof just like the Zodiac sending a piece of his final victim's shirt to newspapers in 1969.

    • @cutekanjii
      @cutekanjii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Or was caught in the act or seen around the body and his hands and arms covered in blood. Really only his hands and sleeves if not rolled up would be bloody. However since there were buckets of water quite commonly left around on street corners all over the place it would have been quite easy to wash off plus even if he got blood on his coat sleeves it would be virtually impossible to see in the darkness that the city had back then. So they may have naively been looking around after a murder had just occurred for a man covered in blood so someone looking at him would not even notice the small amount of blood he would have had on him. Very convenient for him.

    • @kieran3237
      @kieran3237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very true and the "Dear Boss" letter was the one which gave the killer the moniker "Jack the Ripper".

    • @theredqueen2283
      @theredqueen2283 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cutekanjii Charles lechmere

    • @drbigmdftnu
      @drbigmdftnu ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also the theory that he was a butcher - so no one would have questioned if he was bloody. But if he lots of blood on parts of his suit that should have been covered by an apron....maybe. But very poorly lit back then

  • @tonicastel5933
    @tonicastel5933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting. Great video.

  • @Mike649foxx
    @Mike649foxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your channel my friend 👍

  • @beverleylumb8048
    @beverleylumb8048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I wonder why the government were so averse to offering a reward or even an amnesty of charges if they offer jack the ripper

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Their belief was that if they offered rewards people would give false information to try and get the reward, Beverley.

    • @jamesmills4850
      @jamesmills4850 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jack The Ripper Tour That was their excuse? Seems odd? Would the authorities not waited until investigations from the tip offs were first determined to be helpful or not before rewarding the informant, instead of dishing out the rewards like confetti to every Tom, Dick and Harry with a tale to tell? What a lame excuse from them. I suspect the authorities and the murderer or murderers attended the same Lodge?

  • @rachelraquel758
    @rachelraquel758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think if any of the letters are authentic, the “from hell” letter is the most likely. But, I have also read a lot of John Douglas books and think that most disorganized killer don’t communicate with the authorities.

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, Rachel, the From Hell letter is the debated over one.

  • @Concreteowl
    @Concreteowl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the idea of the notebook man being an Irish American quack we have all heard of. He probably knew where to get a kidney even if he didn't remove it himself.

  • @billjones3720
    @billjones3720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hardly someone who would eat bits of bread from the gutter...Aaron Kosminski.

  • @peterwindhorst5775
    @peterwindhorst5775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always figured that the Ripper letters were all forgeries.... someone trying to get onto the bandwagon of the scandals and sell more papers. Probably the only authentic one might be the one that came with the kidney - and that one might be suspect.

  • @richardfinlayson1524
    @richardfinlayson1524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sounds like a right nutter.

  • @Pauly421
    @Pauly421 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos are great and probably the best resource on JTR on YT. If I may make a suggestion though, the low resolution ye olde drawings could be touched up a bit. Watching that 140p image in 1080p on a big screen makes my eyes bleed 😂

    • @Pauly421
      @Pauly421 ปีที่แล้ว

      8:57 I'd go over that in photoshop and restore it or something. Anyways keep up the great work that's just a minor complaint.

  • @davesmith7432
    @davesmith7432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video!! It was interesting! It has changed the way I thought about that letter. It seems logical to think that if the organ came from Eddows then the letter must be genuine. But, investigators at the time couldn’t make up their minds when they had the evidence! And poor Mr Lusk was being harassed with similar letters. That leaves us the only option to surmise it probably was a hoax/scare tactic by a deranged malefactor. Not the East end murderer. Thanks Rich, brilliant job!

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, it is frustrating as we no longer have the evidence to do a proper assessment, so we are dependent on what was reported at the time.

    • @davesmith7432
      @davesmith7432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JackTheRipperTours good job my man, see you on the next one!

  • @katharineanne7397
    @katharineanne7397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just found your channel and I'm enjoying all of your videos. I have always had an interest in this case but I'm new to the details. I find it interesting that this letter wasn't signed "Jack the Ripper" which makes me believe that perhaps it is authentic. Were the other letters all signed "Jack the Ripper"? When I visit London, would love to take your tour, regards, from NJ!

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for your kind words, Katharine. Be sure to say hello when you join us in London. Regards back to you from London.

    • @deancordery5935
      @deancordery5935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Katharine Anne, I believe that most of all letters were signed Jack The Ripper apart from that 1 letter too Mr Lusk with the left kidney part in the box

  • @TheJoker-fg4es
    @TheJoker-fg4es 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Kosminski has always been a favourite of mine. He's the Arthur Leigh Allen to the zodiac.

    • @MrJoebrooklyn1969
      @MrJoebrooklyn1969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe it was him.

    • @kieran3237
      @kieran3237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just watched a documentary on Aaron kosminski, who I believed was also the murderer, but according to it he didn't fit the evidence...however it said the killer was a man named kosminski,it just wasnt Aaron.

    • @avega2792
      @avega2792 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s in my top 3 for sure.

    • @deancordery5935
      @deancordery5935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kieran3237 not Kozminsky for me I don't believe it was a jew far to easy just like the great fire of London that too was blamed on a foreigner until it was confirmed that a bakery on Pudding Lane started it... My opinion is Charles Allen Lechmere aka Charles Allen Cross he lied at the inquiry of his name gave false details and evidence He was the 1st person who was next too Polly Nicholls when Robert Paul was walking down Bucks Row the body was still warm apart from the face and hands meaning Polly gad just been killed he also lied too PC Mizin so much critical evidence suggests Charles Lechmere is Jack The Ripper and he lived and worked in Whitechapel he worked for Pickfords as a Carmen taking Meat cuts and carcasses to the yard he walked to and from work passing 4 victims including Martha Tabram hes mum lived near 2 other victims I feel this man Charles Lechmere could easily slip into night without a trace and carried on knowing he could get away with it Charles Lechmere was also in my opinion the Thames Torso murdere too that letter and part of a kidney makes it even clearer that Jack The Ripper had changed his MO clever guy Lechmere who died in 1920 with a bit of class and money

    • @theredqueen2283
      @theredqueen2283 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Charles lechmere

  • @nickm1965
    @nickm1965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Excellent and informative account of the Lusk letter & kidney, Richard. One thing you mentioned which I can never find enough info on is when & how the kidney was destroyed. Additionally, what other Ripper evidence held by the police was also destroyed or has gone missing?

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hi Nick. As far as I know, and I am happy to be corrected on this, it was discarded by the City of London Police once their investigation into it had been concluded. Virtually all the "actual" evidence has been destroyed and has gone missing.

    • @nickm1965
      @nickm1965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JackTheRipperTours Thanks for replying. Love your channel!!!

    • @heresjohnny1219
      @heresjohnny1219 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JackTheRipperTours is there not an item of clothing or some scrap of cloth that is still about ? I remember hearing something a few years back about a DNA sample being obtained from it that “definitively” proved the identity of Jack albeit either wrong or fabricated or incorrect whichever the case may be.

    • @patavinity1262
      @patavinity1262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@heresjohnny1219 I believe Patricia Cornwell claimed to have got DNA from one of the letters and from one of Walter Sickert's paintings and claimed they were a match.

    • @billgowland3250
      @billgowland3250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@heresjohnny1219 A shawl belonging to one of the victims emerged s few years back
      Don't know if it was real or not
      Made the TV news
      Then seemed to fade away.

  • @rhodrage
    @rhodrage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Random thought but why has no one suggested this guy did it?

  • @andrewyoung2796
    @andrewyoung2796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is the only letter that might be real
    Of course. I want it to be

  • @stevenremmington
    @stevenremmington 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These are really excellent, very informative. No need for the weird audio effects when quoting letters tbh

  • @matthewmckever2312
    @matthewmckever2312 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, seems I'm following your work on the letters around TH-cam.
    Lusk, not Fisk. Well it seems the "From Hell" letter is a damn sight more ominous as it was the left kidney taken from Eddows as well.
    But renal artery and Brites disease?
    Sallow and Florid ?
    Was it the same man, seems likely though whether it's the whitechapel killer or not.
    The Dear Boss letter talking of a double killing did that arrive after the fact?
    Would the real Jack be able to resist having so many other people claim his "work" without writing or getting involved in the investigation in some way ?
    Seems unlikely from what we know about these type of people in modern behavioral analysis.
    Anyhoo, I enjoyed that. I used to drink in the white heart, Aldgate and often saw people on tours down that alley, I was to busy touring the Guinness of course.
    Thankyou for shining a light on the letters.
    M

  • @DirtySanchez943
    @DirtySanchez943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think it was written by that maniac.

  • @Iain1983
    @Iain1983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best video yet 😜

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      High praise indeed!

    • @Iain1983
      @Iain1983 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JackTheRipperTours 🇮🇪 overtones in the writing of this letter. P.s like the music at the end.

  • @MatthewCarmichael-od4yv
    @MatthewCarmichael-od4yv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the case of Jack the Ripper all the evidence which seemed in the day to be over looked is probably worth looking at and discussing like the first witness Charles leechmer. With all the letters still around i wonder if the writing can be compared to the suspects writing?

  • @MEME-qe4ze
    @MEME-qe4ze ปีที่แล้ว +1

    would you check the handwriting with Charles Lechmere’s handwriting?

    • @hollybigelow5337
      @hollybigelow5337 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have only taken a few preliminary handwriting courses, but from what I can tell the couple of signatures I have found of Charles Allen Lechmere are not even remotely consistent with the handwriting in the From hell letter. The two signatures I am relying on are his signature on his wedding certificate as well as his signature on the 1911 census.
      The From Hell letter has a lot of concerning handwriting indicators in it. For example, in the Sor at the beginning of the letter there is a very clear felon's claw in the S. It is fairly unusual for a felon's claw to show up in an S. Usually they show up in y's and g's. There's also another one in the F in From hell at the beginning of the letter, which is a slightly more common letter, but still not y's and g's. So to me this shows kind of an extreme felon's claw. Keep in mind that anyone sending a Jack the Ripper letter, even a fake one, probably has some somewhat sociopathic traits. There are also a few of what are called (swear word) K's, which indicates someone who can respond in a pretty strong way to authority. I could keep going, but you get the picture.
      Anyway, let's look specifically at some comparisons to Charles Lechmere's signatures. First, the From hell letter has some very distinct C's. Look at the C's in Catch me if you can. These both have a very distinct loop at the top of the C and a clean bottom of the C. If you look at Charles Lechmere's signatures, he has very clear loops on C's as well that are quite different from the From hell letter. He has a much bigger loop on the top of the C that actually angles backwards, and he also adds a second loop at the bottom of his C. This appears in both signatures. On the 1911 census, the C in the address has these same distinctive loops. Although the quantity of writing we have from Charles Lechmere is very limited, I don't see any evidence of felon's claws or (blank you) K's (which can occur in letters other than K), in any of his handwriting. The signatures from Charles Lechmere are much more smooth and are not as dark as the handwriting in the From hell letter. That really heavy, dark handwriting in the From hell letter indicates large amounts of resentment, so the writer of the From hell letter appears to be much more resentful than Charles Lechmere. Also, the angle of the handwriting is slightly different. In theory, the more forward angled the handwriting the more emotionally expressive a person is in their daily lives. Charles Lechmere isn't exactly the most emotionally expressive person on the face of the planet based on his signatures, but he does slightly, and consistently tilt a little to the right, which suggests he occasionally expresses his feelings, likely primarily to those he knows best. However, the person who wrote the From hell letter has no such consistent slight tilt to the right. Most of the letters in that letter are straight up and down with the occasional letter that oddly tilts to the right in a way that isn't consistent. This tends to suggest someone who bottles up their emotion, although the emotion occasionally slips out in completely inconsistent levels and completely inconsistent ways only to be immediately bottled up again.
      Once again, I fully admit that I have only taken some introductory handwriting courses. Even so, these are only a few of the indicators that I am looking at. I also recognize that many people believe that reading someone's personality through handwriting is not scientifically valid. All I can say is that although we don't necessarily understand WHY these traits mean what they do, there is a lot of statistical evidence to show at least some of these characteristics are quite valid. Also, it is true that a person's handwriting can change a bit over time, and specifically it is believed it changes as your personality changes. So, for example, if you are hugely resentful it may show up in one letter, but if you manage to heal and vent that resentment it could disappear from your handwriting later. That is partly why it is so useful to have multiple signatures from Charles Lechmere. It shows that, for example, the very distinctive loops in his C's are consistently there on different occasions, so that is likely a more permanent aspect of his handwriting. Obviously, the kind of pen used can make a small difference, but to me the biggest difference is just the intensity of the handwriting in the From hell letter compared to the lightness and smoothness of Charles Lechmere's signature. I don't care what pen was used on those occasions, it takes a special amount of resentment and anger to create the intensity of the writing in the From hell letter. That isn't merely a very thick pen. Also, unless the writer had no choice of pen, it is also true that people who are more resentful are more likely to choose a darker, thicker pen in the first place.
      The bottom line is that Charles Lechmere's signature is not even remotely consistent with the handwriting in the From hell letter. I don't think it takes a seasoned veteran of handwriting analysis to see the extreme differences in the handwriting styles. When handwriting only has subtle differences, that takes a real professional, but when the handwriting is this different most people can see it when they are given clues of what to look for.

  • @ianhoare289
    @ianhoare289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    whats the music called at the end?

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Ian. It's a track called "Behind Her Eyes" which I got from the Shutterstock library.

  • @johnthomson6507
    @johnthomson6507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Has anyone done a study on moustaches and serial killers?

  • @johnthomson6507
    @johnthomson6507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yas agreed

  • @richardfinlayson1524
    @richardfinlayson1524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you are unsavoury, are you sweet?

  • @chrisclarke4665
    @chrisclarke4665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Was there ever any legitimacy to the belief that the Ripper left counterfeit coins near the crime scene of the victims?

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Chris. No, this was rumoured but never proved legitimate.

    • @cutekanjii
      @cutekanjii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did leave some neatly arranged objects at at least one of the murders. I can't recall what they were now, one of the things wasn't a coin but I'm sure it was something metallic and also I have always found the v shaped marks he left on Catherine eddows face intriguing

    • @leslierock5005
      @leslierock5005 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes Chris it is true about coins being at the crime scene of the victims.two victims coins were found. At the Alice McKenzie inquest a jury foreman asked inspector Reid Reid (C.I.D) 'in previous cases was any similar coin found as that which you picked up in this instance* ? Reid replyed 'in the hanbury street case(Chapman) two coins were found. *A coin was found under McKenzie .

    • @leslierock5005
      @leslierock5005 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Coins were also reported in the telegraph after Annie Chapman was found murdered

    • @leslierock5005
      @leslierock5005 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JackTheRipperTours coins were found at the body of Annie Chapman reported by the telegraph and inspector reid.also at the body of McKenzie.reid was asked about it at the coroners court by a forman ' in previous cases was any similar coin found as that which u picked up in this instance'.(McKenzie). Reid: in the hanbury street case two farthings were found'.(Chapman).

  • @deniseelsworth7816
    @deniseelsworth7816 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting and informative. Yes lusk is always portrayed as vigilante but what were they supposed to do? The ripper was killing right under the polices noses.

  • @mastermasonjoewillis3904
    @mastermasonjoewillis3904 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has anyone checked Lusks' handwriting against those reported to be from JTR?

  • @drbigmdftnu
    @drbigmdftnu ปีที่แล้ว

    If even one of the letters were genuine, it would be evidence against Kosminski, who didn't speak, or presumably write, English. But of course, with partial knowledge, study, or assistance, he could have pulled it off.
    If this was the prank of a medical student....my goodness what a disgrace.

  • @AJ-zx8by
    @AJ-zx8by ปีที่แล้ว

    The man Lusk met with sounds so suspicious!! Maybe Jacob Levy a man with neurosyphillis

  • @nofrackingzone7479
    @nofrackingzone7479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How does one decide it is the kidney of a woman, approximately 45 years old, that was a heavy drinker using a 19th century microscope? Wonder if he was related to Sherlock Homes.

    • @EternaResplandiente
      @EternaResplandiente 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They didn't use a microscope que kidneys get darker as you age and drink it to pieces

  • @johnthomson6507
    @johnthomson6507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is Mr lusk an influencer because I remember John conti had the same moustache which Mr lusk May have Left him in his will?

  • @arson338
    @arson338 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have to wait till I come in

  • @ryanwilson368
    @ryanwilson368 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Charles lechmere was Jack the Ripper

  • @brettjones5041
    @brettjones5041 ปีที่แล้ว

    im thinking the letters were mispelt for a reason

  • @jasminespencer3992
    @jasminespencer3992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do we know what happened to the piece of kidney that was sent to Lusk? Any chance it was preserved by the police?

    • @jasminespencer3992
      @jasminespencer3992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see you answered this question when someone else asked it.

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, so much of the evidence is now long gone, Jasmine.

  • @stevenmcghee6649
    @stevenmcghee6649 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the original letter still exist?

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Steven. The original Lusk From Hell letter doesn't exists, the Dear Boss Jack the Ripper letter is at the National Archives, Kew.

    • @stevenmcghee6649
      @stevenmcghee6649 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JackTheRipperTours thank you for your reply. Much appreciated.

  • @phillipbrown8346
    @phillipbrown8346 ปีที่แล้ว

    GRISLY, GHASTLY AND HORRIBLE...

  • @TheMerryPup
    @TheMerryPup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could you provide a cite that the piece of kidney sent to Mr. Lusk was destroyed? Great video!

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's more a presumption. It certainly doesn't exist any more.as far as is known.

  • @michaelgrey7854
    @michaelgrey7854 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you think the ripper may of been part of the committe to take advantage and a low profile?

  • @vermadheeraj29
    @vermadheeraj29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone know who Thomas Blair was, the person who wrote a letter suggesting that policemen should dress up as women to lure the Ripper?

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only info I have on him is what is contained in the files. His letter, dated 11th November, is sent from Gribton, Dumfries.

    • @vermadheeraj29
      @vermadheeraj29 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JackTheRipperTours The reason I am interested in him is to compare his and other hand written letters sent by concerned citizens to the ripper letters to see if their hand writing and patterns match. I couldn't find any info specific to this line of thought.
      This may be a gigantic leap but I thought the Blair handwriting looks very similar to the From Hell letter. I am not an expert by any means, just curious I suppose. Would be great if someone with the experience would look into it.

    • @reefnreefer
      @reefnreefer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I actually thought the bad spelling, when read, sounded almost like a Scots accent. Sor, instead of sir for instance.

  • @ericckkss
    @ericckkss 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm coming back to London to collect all trillion dollars

  • @thefreddex
    @thefreddex ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever considered that George Lusk was the only one with something from the crimes comitted by jack the ripper. Was George Lusk the real Jack the Ripper?

  • @colinmcewen9530
    @colinmcewen9530 ปีที่แล้ว

    intresting that it wasnt sighned jack the ripper

  • @derekwordley1837
    @derekwordley1837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All very complicated. No expert, but if it could be established that one of the letters was genuine, The usual way was to seal the envelope by licking it. Any chance of DNA?

    • @JackTheRipperTours
      @JackTheRipperTours  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It would be too corrupted today Derek, and we would need to know who to match it to.

    • @derekwordley1837
      @derekwordley1837 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JackTheRipperTours DNA technology is progressing fast. Perhaps future progress may extract DNA. As stated, no expert but most suspects must have relatives.

    • @cutekanjii
      @cutekanjii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They did take dna from one of the ripper letters stamp and it was from, a woman. It was either the stamp or the gum on the envelope, but it was quite common for anyone in a clerical type job, which there were many in those days, to have their secretary put the stamps on abd then post the letters. Or the person at the post office go do it

  • @AJ-zx8by
    @AJ-zx8by ปีที่แล้ว

    If this was real then Lusk surely met the ripper? Why didn't he try and track down this man after all he actually saw him?

  • @blrenx
    @blrenx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now this letter ,to me , Has reporter hoax written all over it.. From Hell sounds very creepy , But it lacks the cold calm evil of the Dear Boss letter. It just doesn't ring true to me.

  • @frankboogaard88
    @frankboogaard88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know who he is

  • @markstephens479
    @markstephens479 ปีที่แล้ว

    Think it seems likely that that letter was from the killer

  • @lutherweaver1547
    @lutherweaver1547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    first