What Even Happens in MGS3? Part One - Virtuous Mission
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Following the hit TH-cam mini-series 'What Even Happens in MGSV', Futurasound Productions presents another deep dive into Hideo Kojima's series METAL GEAR SOLID like you've never seen before!
In this, part one of another trilogy, we turn now to 2004's METAL GEAR SOLID 3: SNAKE EATER. It's by any standard of measurement, a classic; but is there more going on in this game than meets the eye? How does it connect to the other games in the series, and what do we only learn by multiple replays? Find out! No MGS fan will want to miss it!
0:00 - Introduction
0:52 - The Basics of MGS3
2:27 - Virtuous Mission: Synopsis
5:48 - Virtuous Mission: Background Events
15:16 - Virtuous Mission: Analysis
25:31 - "Endless Battle"
35:49 - Aftermath
39:44 - Scene, Proof, & The Times
47:36 - Conclusion
47:44 - Credits - เกม
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"...having reproduced together..."
Getting pretty technical there.
Manufacturing personnel. Careful, could get a seman infection.
that phrasing made my balls retreat into my body
Cause the lonely bastards reading the mission after report don't want to hear about how you saved the world, and also got laid.
Hurts upper brass morale. :P
Sex would be too simple. This is a human material acquisition procedure to supply a live-fire exercise aimed at furthering nuclear proliferation as a front for proto-memetic warfare trials as part of a larger 4D longitudinal thought experiment in anticipation of theoretical frameworks to allow for collective consciousness manipulation.
No love on the battlefield, i guess.
Me: "actually, I know quite a lot about this game"
Jorin Lee: "hold my calorie mate!"
I felt the exact same way! I played this through so many times, I thought I knew what was going on. To be fair, I wonder just how much of this is coming down to differing interpretations of MGS3.
@@daniell1483 that's true. Its very tempting to overanalyse everything.
Still, its very entertaining to watch
We are all just standing at the tip of the iceberg
Dude I ordered some calory mates after beating the game when it first came out. Still have them, must taste horrible by now lol
@@Ner0mancer haha Nice!
Just throw them to the Fear, next time you meet him 😉
I think knowing the true and full history of Big Boss' story makes playing as Solid Snake so amazing. You see SS break away from the same trap that caught so many other including the man he is a copy of and his brother. Solid Snake was literally made from the ground up to become another "Boss" but finds a way to prevent himself and the world from falling into the Patriot's trap. You see the same for Otacon too as he becomes a much better person than Huey was. But that isn't the best comparison considering Huey was back stabbing pond scum from the start. With Strangelove/Otacon and Solid Snake/Big Boss and even the Ocelot/The Boss dynamic you see children becoming more than what their parents could ever hope for.
Yeah, lol, Huey isn’t difficult to be better than. He’s a whining bitching loser.
It’s absolutely incredible the storytelling Kojima was able to pull off while playing through such amazing gameplay. The whole series is just a masterpiece on a scale almost unmatched except by Miyazaki’s (FROM Soft). MGS only gets better with time as Kojima’s story almost plays out in reality in front of us.
Pond?
Barely Puddle
Invntiv I’ve been a fan since mgs1 on ps1 I never played the msx games but I tend to disagree. The genius isn’t in the storytelling and I feel that he’s devolved quite a bit since mgs2 with each title growing progressively less coherent. MGS3 was a total anomaly with it’s straightforward narrative when seen in a vacuum however when viewed through the lens of the entire series none of this stuff was ever planed ahead and he’s clearly making it up as he goes along and even going so far as the MGS4 story with the egregious retcons where he rewrites history how he sees fit in order to tidy things up which as far as I’m concerned actually hurt the lore more than it helped. We really didn’t need pseudoscientific explanations for the supernatural elements in these games I was willing to suspend disbelief in order to enjoy these epics and if anything MGS4+ has only damaged my ability to suspend disbelief because of it’s insistence on trying to make perfect sense of this “reality” whilst Johnny is flopping around shitting his pants. Tonally 4 is just an absolute clusterfuck and 5 makes similar mistakes except instead of even trying to make a cinematic mgs123&4 story we get these cryptic as hell almost David Lynch-esque dialogue scenes and the vast majority of the story is hidden via ingame cassettes containing hours of exposition dumps.
@@walmartian422 MGS Is Very Stitched together and Poorly Planned
I’m Happy There’s some Beautiful Humanistics to Enjoy
STOP. I CAN'T HANDLE THIS MUCH QUALITY CONTENT SO FAST. I DON'T DESERVE THIS.
STOP.
It’s insane how this game can have a great story while not even paying attention to all of the details. So much depth to these games.
Damn right its a shame a 2004 game still rivals modern titles from devs that are praised for their famously detailed work ie rockstar or naughty dog
@@Xdawsen Naughty Dog and Rockstar are still very good studios. It's just that Kojima and the team behind Metal Gear Solid are in another level.
@@awsomeboy360 Kojima’s always been the embodiment of “next level”.
@@awsomeboy360the rockstar part of your comment didn’t age well
At least you’re giving this masterpiece some attention in 2020 unlike Konami.
There will always be true patriots who fight for truth & freedom. No matter how many times they are silenced, they shall still speak.
"Kept you waiting, huh"
@@jgt1120 age hasn’t slowed you down one bit
@@snakeeater6738”How do I take off my pants”
@@BiggerBossN313how do I poop with this sneaking suit on ???
I just had a thought big boss was speaking russian to sokolov with him mentioning that his russian is suberb, however in MGSV venom had to acquire an interpreter.
This serves as one of the first clues that venom was not big boss
Had the same thought the first time I played ! Then came the AI saying : Snake it's not you. After that I looked at V and said who the hell are you ( that was back in 2015)
@@jamesdominic1116 your perception is superb
The game tell you that the shrapnell is in part of the brain that alter his speaking though
@@jasonlobo2350 oh yeah you're right
44:36 Miller in Ground Zeroes also says that snake will be home for dinner, lol
And the person directly affiliated with Zero caused the fall of MSF
@@it6647 are you saying that was Miller?
@@Dailyblazer19 I somewhat doubt that considering how much Miller lost
I think it’s a phrase that’s been said since metal gear 1
Dude, how can you pump so much quality content in such a short span of time
He a god among men.
He's pretty good!
S+ rank in "Video Essay Development"
Love your videos made me actually feel satisfied with MSGV after watching your videos
Hey. Thats what i was thinking
The Boss got done dirty her whole life by The Patriots holy shit.
Kind of sad, because she was the daughter of one of the Wisemen Committee. Her whole life is chained to the Philosophers and serve their goals no matter what.
That made Big Boss quote, “The world doesn’t need Snake” more meaningful. It is to break the cycle of Boss and Snakes
Not the Patriots, the philosophers. The predecessors of what would become The Patriots
Came here to say, "HELL YESSSS!" MGS 3 is my fave of all time. Your series on MGSV was brilliant, can't wait for this
For me 3 was my favorite until I played peace walker. But 3 is still a very close 2nd
3 is my favorite too
@@jacobwalker4398 I played PW when it came out on the Ps3 (or4, one of those collections) and I liked it..but i wasn't a big fan of the missions structure and building the base. I did like it marginally better in V, but maybe just because it had amazing graphics hahha.
I agree
@@elFosho1
It’s a PSP game. I don’t think we have online co-op, I remember there was a app on the PS3 that enable online for the psp but finding strangers to play with is harder to come hy
then they make the HD version for PS3 and XBOX360.
just finished mgs 3 for the 12th time with the first time I ever got all 64 keroten frogs lez goo. Also I wanna know who thought it would be funny to put so many of em in the chase scene
That pain....is ours!
ugh getting those final kerotan in the chase has to be one of the hardest parts of the game
There's only ever one in every section, from what I remember. I used the rocket launcher for the ones in the chase.
Haha
@@ModernGamesSuck yeah there was one per section, but that was a lot of reloading for me regardless cause of how many sections there were while moving fast
*codec call
"Sokolov-sokolov-sokolov..."
GOT IT !
knife...gun....KNIFEGUN
"Snake, what are you doing?"
"I'm in a box..."
"Aw Hell no!"
@@Ohflipsnap uh huh
Did you get any of that?
Not even a little.
"The new blood has been rejected" 1 of my favorite lines..
I like to think that this is how Kojima would "prove" himself to us. Yet I expect nothing from the man the same way I expect nothing of your channel and yet every time I watch a video it's the most incredible experience. Thank you for hitting the ball out of the park again and teaching my nostalgia seeking self a fresh new perspective on the beautiful game. ⭐
The irony of being played by Zero from the beginning is mind-blowing.
I didn't notice his passive-aggressive tone when I was younger, now it's obvious that Kojima wanted to make them the Patriots from the start of MGS3
First of all, the feeding ramp is polished to a mirror sheen. It's not going to have any feeding problems. The slide's been replaced with a reinforced version, and it meshes perfectly with the frame. The frame itself has been iron-welded and scraped down multiple times for maximum precision. The front strap part of the frame has been checkered to make it dig into the hand. That prevents any slipping. The sight system's original too. It's a 3-dot type. It's got an enlarged front sight, giving it superior target sighting capability. The regular hammer's been replaced with a ring hammer. That enhances the cocking control and increases the hammer-down speed. They also reworked the grip safety to accommodate the ring hammer. It looks like they eliminated it altogether. This is a tool for pros. The thumb safety and slide stop are extended for precise handling. The base of the trigger guard is whittled down so you can use a high grip, and the trigger itself is a long type for easy finger access. The trigger pull is about 3.5 pounds. that's about a pound and a half lighter than normal. The magazine well has been widened to make it easier to put in a new magazine. The magazine catch button has been filed down low to make it harder to hit it by mistake. The mainspring housing has been changed to a flat type to increase grip, and it's even been fitted with stepping so that it won't slip from the recoil when firing. On top of that, they added cocking serrations to the top part of the slide. That lets you load and eject cartridges faster in an emergency. Whoever did this is a professional, no question. This thing could shoot a one-hole at 25 yards in a machine rest.
> Dying sick
>On couch
>this video
Thank you Futura, this is exactly what I needed
I'm so tired of watching people being evil and nasty to one another too.
@@Inviting1word Hear, hear bud.
I've been introduced to the metal gear franchise by a friend recently so i watched mgs3 then portable ops then peace walker on TH-cam and now i am playing mgs phantom pain on ps4 and have finished chapter 1. But i am running into a bit of a problem because every single detail of the previous games have went over my head (it also doesn't help that english isn't my native language and that was kindda the main issue i was having )and now i find myself kind of confused all the time while playing, so i decided to rewatch previous games but then i saw this video (which was ironically uploaded 4 days ago) and now so much stuff make sense, I'm really looking forward to part 2 and i hope you'll be doing more of these videos and cover the rest of the games. ❤✌
I imagine that this would be extremely confusing since the MGS series often creates drama and plot twists by writing characters who attempt to deceive, manipulate or control other characters in the story (and the main character always gets deceived). In MGS3, Ocelot was the character that confused me the most since he's a triple agent.
One of the things that keeps me coming back to this game is that these characters are so well written. Once you know what the characters' real motivations are, it's lots of fun to watch them try to achieve their goals while keeping their real motivations a secret. I enjoyed the game the first time (except for the camera angles), but I find it more entertaining to go through it again as the characters are usually very consistent with their actual goal. Hopefully, you will have the same experience.
You should play MGS3.... u don’t like Paz do you? Do u realize what she is?
@@TheMoshPit26 imagine how different the story would be if Hideo kojima had written it from begging to end chronologically. Or all at once so no ability to retcon or make up an explanation lol.
Wow. Metal gear solids take on the English language later in the game will blow your mind. Great story that game has, and this guy's videos cover it really well
@@Puppy_Puppington i don't have access to any game other than phantom pain sadly .. and i have a soft spot for paz
31:00 - Zero's message to Sokolov is not exactly the same as Snake's catchphrase. Zero's goes 遅れてすまない (okurete sumanai) while Snake's catchphrase is 待たせたな (matasetana). There has been instances where 待たせたな has been translated inconsistently (like at the end of MGS2, when Snake tells Raiden "Been waiting long"), but this isn't necessarily such a case.
What is the difference in meaning?
@@gluestickgenius2644 They use two different verbs, so immediately they mean two different things.
The first phrase uses the verb 遅れる meaning 'to be late' and joins it with すまない to mean 'sorry'. 遅れてすまない means 'sorry for being late'.
The second phrase uses 待たせた、past tense form of 待たせる meaning 'to keep someone waiting'. As for な、this is one of the ending particles Japanese likes to use, to give an impression to the listener. Usually this one is for seeing if the listener agrees with you, but in this case, the speaker is letting you know they're aware of their actions. 'Huh' is a perfectly good translation for this particle as English speakers like to say it at the end to get confirmation. By extension, 'Kept you waiting, huh?' is also good.
In summary, these two should not be confused as meaning the same thing in Japanese or in English. Like Japanese, English has a distinction between 'being late' and 'keeping someone waiting.'
@@maestro7534 Thank you for taking the time to explain!
I don't even know the history, but you make the video so good and easy to understand that I don't care to watch a 1 hour long video if it's yours
Imagine a MGS6 by Kojima after he buys the rights to MGS from Konami about The Cobras during WW2... that would be one hell of a game. This is never happening but a man can dream...
For someone who grew up playing 1 and 2 only to jump back into 5 as an adult I’m fairly certain Hideo drew quite a bit of his inspiration for this story from Apocalypse Now but with David Bowie.
This is the first game I played and said this is beyond just being a game this truly was art. It's a experience. This is my favorite game of all time. The Boss and Snake's story is one of the most complex and tragic where she is both mother and mentor, villain and hero. I love this game.
I haven’t watched it yet but I’m hoping there is some Skullface info about his background work during mgs3
Skullface being in MGS3 was a retconn. There's no evidence of it in MGS3
Lets do this! I always look forward to these!
This video is gonna be great to watch/listen to. MGS3 is still my favorite Metal Gear Solid after all these years!
“First game chronologically” good excuse for doing the best one first
I love how Kojima made the same game everytime and still makes them amazing.
MG: soldier infiltrates secret military base
MG2S: MG1 but with more stuff going on
MGS: MG2S but with Liquid instead of Big Boss
MGS2: an in-universe recreation of MGS but with extra camp
MGS3: Kinda like MGS and MGS2 but in the cold war
That's as far as my knowledge of the series goes for now, but I'm starting to see a pattern here
I'd be thrilled if you did this kind of analysis of MGS4 someday. There's been a bunch of good analytical videos on MGS4 in the last few years, but I think there are a TON of interesting (and weird, and puzzling, and baffling) things in MGS4 which nobody has yet covered in the currently existing analyses.
Subscribing to you is one of the best things ive done on the internet this year. You help me overcome my recent illness. Ive been listening to your videos for hours while half conscious with cold sweat and all. I like to think i would understand any of your videos in one go if i`d be healthy, but i highly doubt it. The franchise and your viewpoints give me so much to think about. Metal Gear been with me since i was a child so this is perfect man. Thank you and godspeed.
man I hope you're doing well, sorry if I sound strange but English ain't my native language, but I really wish you are ok
had to quickly finish MGS 3 before watching this video, just like i recently replayed MGS V for your MGS V videos.
good content!
This was great man, seriously. This has been what I've been craving witht the MGS stories. In depth and detailed down to every event. Too many TH-camrs wanna try and play lore historian and only cover the most major of events in Metal Gear and I don't think you can do that. There is too much minutia with this series to skip over the actions in between.
I hope you wind up doing this with all the Metal Gears or atleast 3. Keep it up, bud.
I love these videos. But I gotta admit, if you so Death Stranding, there's a 7 hour video out there to compete with.
YEEEEEEEEEEESSS I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS!
Let's GO Boss!
YES THIS VIDEO IS MY DREAM
"snake change on eating animal is a conversion through food like with Adam and Eve"
Kojima:.....yea....that was completly thought out like that from the start and not just a game mechanic....heh heh....
Can't wait to see this series through, they are awesome!
MGS 1,2,3 are freaking genious pieces of work, and your analysis of them are hands down the best. great work. got any background or knowledge of psychology?
I really love these series you make. I put them on and listen to them as I sleep. You have a great resting voice
First MGS game i ever played and it confused the hell out of me but loved it and is in my top 5 games of all time
Much respect for all of the high quality Metal Gear content coming from this channel!
Another fantastic video - I love the detail, and how well-explained and developed your commentary is. Keep up the great work
Your videos have reshaped my understanding of these games, and my life is all the better for it. Keep em coming!!
Imagine a prequel of the Boss and Cobras vs a Nazzi commander, that would be dope.
Your series on MGSV was freaking awesome and to be honest kinda... turned me around on it a bit. Still don't like it a whole bunch but there was a lot of detail and thought put into it! Can't deny that. Now I look forward to watching your analysis of one of my favorite games of all time :]
Dude, yes. I'm so happy that you're doing more of these for the MGS series, you're the first to make really good comprehensive lore videos that I've been able to find
I agree with the point about Snake and Ocelot having a brotherly relationship. I've always seen the dynamic of The Boss as being their mother (well she's Ocelots biological mother) and Volgin as a boorish and abusive step-dad to the boys.
Apparently, in Mgs4, they're Snake, Otacon and Sunny are meant to be written in a similar family dynamic.
You just flipped everything I knew about the mgs lore twice in one video.
Really enjoyed the MGSV series, delighted to see this!
amazing work! i'd love to see this series continued!
The mgsv series of videos were fantastic and opened my eyes to things I'd never noticed. Really excited about this
The mgsv series was fantastic and I’ll love watching this one as well. Thanks for all the work you put into your videos, you’re quickly becoming one of my favourite creators.
just found your channel. Your analysis of my favorite game series has made me see all the things I overlooked in a whole new light. Keep it up! great videos.
This man produces some of the best video essays on YT. Thank you so much for the hours of entertainment
Dude I loved your MGSV series, absolutely beautiful. Keep it up, you are amazing.
this comes at a perfect time, Im playing the mgs series for the first time because of this channel and i just finished mgs3, now you upload a video about it, god bless
Bro… you just brought my childhood back to life… and enlightened me with so many other small details and perspectives that I completely miss when I played the games the first 100 times over. Thank you for this❤️
Boss. I need to check out more of your stuff. Somehow I always watch half of your videos and then listen to some MGS OST on youtube. I really need to get a grip. 😅🙈
Whahaha ive had that exact thing happen to me a couple times too xD
Same thing happened to me. I almost stopped the video half way to listen to ost... but then i was like no.. i need to ingest this content first
Definitely down for several episodes on each game. Great job as always!
Amazing content please, on behalf of every fan of MGS, do more!
I'm so glad I found your channel. Can't wait for the next part.
Your video essays made me respect MGSV even more - can’t wait for this!
I really appreciate how you make an actual video essay. Thesis and all. As apposed to just making a 50 minute long video of rants and just calls it an essay
You're increase of subscribers compared to when I first started following you is genuinely joyous for me
More then 20 years of being a fan of mgs...never once thought or considered about how zeros message to sokalov "sorry for being so late" has anything to do with "kept you waiting, huh?"
I love having new ideas presented to me
i look forward to your videos more than most other channels. the amount of effort you put into the script and analysis alone is impressive.
Dropping a like and comment for support. I think what I like most about your channel is the clear and concise dialogue you provide. I also appreciate your reluctance to theory craft. You have your speculations, but it's not the focus on the video. The information you provide is solely what's been presented in the games. I like that. You're pretty good~!
I really hope to see you continue this series, I'm absolutely enthralled by it. Like last time, you highlighted many things I didn't even realize and I played through MGS3 more than probably any other Metal Gear game.
Love this videos and the dedication behind them
Keep it up!
Wow, Mr. Krabs daughter grew up to be pretty angry.
These videos are Must-See TV
I just want to say your video essays help me so much to fall asleep, and I say this in the best way. I end up going back the next day to watch the video and pay attention.
This is a beyond brilliant analysis and I have no idea how you understand this game so much better than anyone else!
I've developed an addiction to your videos, I've NEVER seen such an insightful analysis come from anyone about any game yet, I can't wait for the rest of your videos on the Metal Gear saga :)
Ty for the content. I love reliving these games and realizing details I may have missed in the lore
I watched most of the vids on how u break down the MGS games & i wanna say, i apperciate the time invested in critical ideas & explaining the plot with key details.
What an excellent video. Unlike other hack fraud youtube "analysists" who cant see anything under the most basic surface plot event and care more about internal consistency than anything else you hit all the right notes. What the themes are, how the characters carry said themes, how the story and everything else ties back into each other etc. Great vid
Dude so much quality content every video its so good!!! Pretty good!!!
your ability to sift through such dense cryptic information and relay the most relevant and coherent bits is profound. much love from another kojima fanboy.
also it’s beautiful so see kojima still has such a love for story telling and writing after pursuing game design for so long. The novelist kojima lives on in everything he does-and this proves that in spades (imo)
Let’s go I loved your mgsv one and now you’re making one on my favorite mgs.
you blow these games WIDE open thank you so much!
Their is only one other TH-camr that has put the effort and thought into this game series. Thank you that.
man great video! there is so much depth I didnt even knew about
your electronic video essays get better each and every time. admittedly, before I used to think that some of your theories would be a bit of a "stretch", but your confidence and tone of voice, as well as the video evidence you use, helps prove your point.
you're pretty good.
Your content is pretty awesome, well-written and edited.
Oh *HELL YEAH* i've been waitin' for this for a long damn time
MGS3 is my like, second favourite game of all time, but I have honestly groaned and sighed at The Boss's endless rambling speeches.
This is insane my dude the gift that keeps on giving
Keep up the good work mate, love the videos!
The whole video was superb.I wonder if you produce your own music for your videos? The whole soundtrack for this video and the video was top notch, made watching this a true pleasure. Also the outro piece was magnificent and caught my ear.
I’ve watched many of your videos and the production is on an upward trajectory. Big ups and much love.
Boss always delivers !
Thanks jori !
Thank you, dude!! You make excellent MGS videos!!
Having just played through MGS3 for the first time, seeing this just now made me very excited and happy!
bro you are the best i love you keep on doing this, i subbed because of mgsv videos
Thank you for your videos. My favorite game series so well examined. Ty
Woah I was expecting this to be a simple recap video but you go really indepth
Amazing Simple Analysis
Beautiful Art
Great Oration
Thank You Great Man
Your analysis of Metal Gear is unparalleled. Fine work indeed.
i watched all of your mgs videos (and a few of your other videos) even though i am a mgs nerd, this is the first time i can proudly say i didn’t learn anything new from your great analysis.
but mgs3 is my favorite videogame ever, and i couldn’t explain it better.
keep up the great work boss, you’re pretty good 👉👉