Thanks for posting. Very informative. I also felt that there was too much rotation required from idle to wide open. The accessory black cam was also included with my 2022 EXC-F 500 so this should apply to them as well. Regards.
Have you seen the threaded inserts for the handlebars? You use them with your bar end handguards. You basically tap your handlebars and loctite a threaded insert which has external threads for installation in the handlebar and internal threads that match the bolt that goes through the handguard bar. The benefit is these inserts get rid of the expansion style bolt and secure the handguard tighter (especially in a crash). There's several companies that make these - Fastway, Bulletproof Designs, Highway Dirtbikes, etc. I have a set of them myself, they seem to hold a lot better. May be worth checking out if you haven't already.
Thanks. When you change the throttle cam, do you have to do any calibration. I suppose it’s just plug and play, but will the throttle free play need adjusting?
My 2024 TBI came fitted with the grey cam ad a huge white cam with the the other parts. I'm using the black cam (wasn't included with the bike, but is included with the KTM ODI grip set).
@@TokyoOffroadah! Very interesting… same here, a grey cam installed in the throttle and a huge white cam in the box. but I also have an intermediate black cam which came with some spare odi grips i bought, seems to be closer to the gray than to the white. Is that the one you’re using? If so I’ll give it a try…
I’m obviously cramming on your videos now with my new bike... so I just changed from the Grey to Black throttle Cam and I have lined everything up and reinstalled no issue, but I have a question: why do those marks need to be lined up? It can’t have any effect on the throttle response because it will align based on the cable ferrule. I can only think it’s to do with the grip position if they have an offset pattern. Please enlighten this troubled soul!
William Colantoni - You can buy ODI grips precut. But to make holes myself on regular ones I use a compressed air die grinder with a carbide bit. It makes very nice holes.
How are you liking the bike without the steering stabilizer?..I recently rode a 300 TPI without one and it felt "loose" compared to my Scott's equipped 300 XCW..Do you feel there's no difference to controlling the bike?
I prefer riding with a Scott’s stabilizer and will be installing one on the 250 TPI. It’s on the list of things to do. With a stabilizer mounted I find I can ride more relaxed and have far fewer unexpected dismounts...
If you buy a new set of KTM OEM ODI grips they come both the grey and black throttle cams. The part number for black/orange grips with open ends for wrap around handguards is 79002923000
@@TokyoOffroad thanks, really appreciate the reply. I'll get some ordered. Haven't had the bike long but the throttle pull is my least favourite thing about it. Miss how snappy the carb throttle action was . Have you spoken to anyone who has done the slavens single cable mod?
@@danielwardman2399 - The single cable mod will lighten the throttle pull, but won’t change the throttle response. If you like a snappier feel you certainly prefer the black throttle cam. Also recommend performing the idle screw mod which will allow you to adjust the air screw and throttle stop (idle) independently and may result in better performance off the bottom: th-cam.com/video/TLzicMxsBWs/w-d-xo.html
@@TokyoOffroad again thanks for the reply. Just watched the video, I'll definitely give that a go. Give me something to do over the lock down since we can't ride here in uk. Keep up the great work on the channel, first place I come to for advice. Cheers
Sorry but I haven't looked into using a different cam as I like the black cam. My suggestion is to contact ODI and ask them if they have one more aggressive than the black stock cam.
A white cam was included with my 2024 KTM 300 EXC, but I didn't try using it. It looks massive! I'm happy with the feel of the black CAM and is what I'm using.
So essentially this does the same as a g2 throttle tamer....my 300xc tpi can be a handful I already have the grey mellow one on ..do you know it the g2 tamer comes with cams that are even more mellow than stock grey?? Worth spending $70 on a g2??
My recommendation is to contact G2 and ask. You might also try contacting ODI as they offer quite a broad range of cams (reasonable pricing) and may have a different one which is tamer.
Thanks for posting. Very informative. I also felt that there was too much rotation required from idle to wide open. The accessory black cam was also included with my 2022 EXC-F 500 so this should apply to them as well. Regards.
I love love love your vids!!! Best in the business. Everything I need, there you are for me! Great show Tokyo!
Have you seen the threaded inserts for the handlebars? You use them with your bar end handguards. You basically tap your handlebars and loctite a threaded insert which has external threads for installation in the handlebar and internal threads that match the bolt that goes through the handguard bar. The benefit is these inserts get rid of the expansion style bolt and secure the handguard tighter (especially in a crash). There's several companies that make these - Fastway, Bulletproof Designs, Highway Dirtbikes, etc. I have a set of them myself, they seem to hold a lot better. May be worth checking out if you haven't already.
Yes, I plan to make some inserts and fit them soon. Once done I'll make a video on the hand guards. Pleased with them so far...
New intro is soooooo much better :-))
Thanks. Pleased you like it...
Thanks. When you change the throttle cam, do you have to do any calibration. I suppose it’s just plug and play, but will the throttle free play need adjusting?
Is this the same for the TBI bikes? Does the xcw come with both cams now? The xc has a quicker cam stock I think.
My 2024 TBI came fitted with the grey cam ad a huge white cam with the the other parts. I'm using the black cam (wasn't included with the bike, but is included with the KTM ODI grip set).
@@TokyoOffroadah! Very interesting… same here, a grey cam installed in the throttle and a huge white cam in the box. but I also have an intermediate black cam which came with some spare odi grips i bought, seems to be closer to the gray than to the white. Is that the one you’re using? If so I’ll give it a try…
is your freeplay adjusted correctly?Doesn't seem like there is any free play,might want to look into that maybe
Yes, I have some freeplay in the throttle. I personally don't like a lot of freeplay though so always adjust it to the minimum of the spec (3mm).
Oh man this push pull is so much easier to get apart and back together than the Honda.
Great video
Great video as usual, I have a question ; Is the grey one's throttle response similar to 2017 ktm exc 2t models?
I have a 17 300 xc w and a 21. It is not.
I’m obviously cramming on your videos now with my new bike... so I just changed from the Grey to Black throttle Cam and I have lined everything up and reinstalled no issue, but I have a question: why do those marks need to be lined up? It can’t have any effect on the throttle response because it will align based on the cable ferrule. I can only think it’s to do with the grip position if they have an offset pattern. Please enlighten this troubled soul!
No affect on throttle control or response, just for the grip pattern.
Thanks for the video!
How did you cut such nice holes on the ODI grips?
William Colantoni - You can buy ODI grips precut. But to make holes myself on regular ones I use a compressed air die grinder with a carbide bit. It makes very nice holes.
@@TokyoOffroad Thabks again. Might go buy one. May try a step drill bit instead.
Ends of grips just knock out clean just give them a little tap
Not sure if you got an answer but I use a metal step drill which works awesome and then a quick tidy up with a Stanley knife or blade.
Late reply but I use a t handle that is the same diameter as the hole you want to make
The gasgasg 450 comes with long turn, must be repalce it asap.
Is it possible to mount 2017 single cable throttle twist casing?
Yes, some people simply remove the return cable and block off the holes. This results in a slightly lighter throttle pull.
Shorter throw cam, less chicken wing, so common with 4t riders, 🤪🤙
Hi again, Is there any of those parts for my 2013 350 exc-f ? If so please help with the part number
Thanks
if iturn barrel adjusters out do i get moe throttle play?
Good info
How are you liking the bike without the steering stabilizer?..I recently rode a 300 TPI without one and it felt "loose" compared to my Scott's equipped 300 XCW..Do you feel there's no difference to controlling the bike?
I prefer riding with a Scott’s stabilizer and will be installing one on the 250 TPI. It’s on the list of things to do. With a stabilizer mounted I find I can ride more relaxed and have far fewer unexpected dismounts...
Anyone know where to buy these? Picked up a bike with the grey one inserted but wouldn't mind getting my hands on the black one .
If you buy a new set of KTM OEM ODI grips they come both the grey and black throttle cams. The part number for black/orange grips with open ends for wrap around handguards is 79002923000
@@TokyoOffroad thanks, really appreciate the reply. I'll get some ordered. Haven't had the bike long but the throttle pull is my least favourite thing about it. Miss how snappy the carb throttle action was .
Have you spoken to anyone who has done the slavens single cable mod?
@@danielwardman2399 - The single cable mod will lighten the throttle pull, but won’t change the throttle response. If you like a snappier feel you certainly prefer the black throttle cam. Also recommend performing the idle screw mod which will allow you to adjust the air screw and throttle stop (idle) independently and may result in better performance off the bottom: th-cam.com/video/TLzicMxsBWs/w-d-xo.html
@@TokyoOffroad again thanks for the reply. Just watched the video, I'll definitely give that a go. Give me something to do over the lock down since we can't ride here in uk.
Keep up the great work on the channel, first place I come to for advice.
Cheers
Do you know if odi makes a more aggressive cam for a 18 300xc ?
Sorry but I haven't looked into using a different cam as I like the black cam. My suggestion is to contact ODI and ask them if they have one more aggressive than the black stock cam.
Hello I have 3 throttle cams the grey 36mm the black 39.5mm and a white one 44mI take it the white 44m will be a real short pull cheers
A white cam was included with my 2024 KTM 300 EXC, but I didn't try using it. It looks massive! I'm happy with the feel of the black CAM and is what I'm using.
Ok cheers what cam came stock on ur bike as mine is a ktm 125 sx 2023
So essentially this does the same as a g2 throttle tamer....my 300xc tpi can be a handful I already have the grey mellow one on ..do you know it the g2 tamer comes with cams that are even more mellow than stock grey?? Worth spending $70 on a g2??
My recommendation is to contact G2 and ask. You might also try contacting ODI as they offer quite a broad range of cams (reasonable pricing) and may have a different one which is tamer.
Wow