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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ม.ค. 2022
- Like many of us, Rich was accustomed to the feel of SRAM's Code brakes, but after a friend kept pushing him to try TRP's DH-R EVO brakes, he finally caved and gave them a go (the shiny silver exterior definitely helped sway him). Watch the video to find out why these have become his go-to brake, and get yours here:
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Great overview and info ... especially the comparison to the Code RSC and Saints to give us an idea
Glad it was helpful!
I rode the saints and code RSC’s and hands down these trp’s are my favorite out of the three. Only thing I didn’t like is the levers were a little slippery. Just added a little grip tape and they are good to go!
Seriously the best brakes I've ever ridden. Don't want to ride anything else! Might try a set of the Trail Evo's on my hardtail.
-Rich
i just bought them im even more excited
I found this review quite confusing. First, thicker rotors do not dissipate heat faster. The surface area is basically the same. They do have more thermal mass and this means they can take more heat before getting as hot. Second. A larger piston up front will give less power at the rear. The dead zone would be smaller, but with less power. I'm sure they compensated with the caliper pistons and it's a 4 piston, so you probably wouldn't notice. But still. Lastly, the size of the hose has zero to do with the pressure on the pads. A smaller hose just makes the oil travel faster.
All good points, and all correct.
Point 1: You are correct. I presume that is what Rich was thinking about but misinterpreted the "how."
Point 2: You are correct. In their materials, TRP states that they use a "new" 9mm piston to improve the hydraulic ratio for more power. Rich said they'd "beefed it up" with a 9mm piston, but in fact, they've moved to a smaller piston (it was 10mm in diameter in the previous DHR). He likely assumed it was larger since they don't specify in their materials, and that'd be the natural assumption if one doesn't have a background in physics.
Point 3: You are correct. The improvement comes from the 5mm hose being stiffer than the 5.5mm hose, so it doesn't expand as much under braking.
Regardless, Rich loves these brakes and won't stop talking about them. You can see my personal thoughts on brakes in the video we are launching tomorrow.
Thanks for watching, and thanks for writing in!
- Dan at Fanatik
@@FanatikBikeCo Ya, I have no doubt that he loves them and that they are great brakes. After that review I wouldn't hesitate to buy a bike with them.
@@ericwenger568 The video I mentioned: th-cam.com/video/hQYCV-7hIOM/w-d-xo.html
Cheers, Dan at Fanatik
👏🏻I ditched the Codes and I'm not looking back, love the DHR EVO's no more spongebob srampants 👍🏻
Love it! Highly considering these
Can't think of another brake I want to run anymore! Well worth it.
-Rich
@@FanatikBikeCo Right on!
Does the kit comes with trp rotors specifix for the brake
What pads do they use, their own TRP ones or something else? Easy to find out and about or harder to source?
They sound awesome! I’m pretty sure the Hayes Domain uses thicker rotors too.
Yep actually a ton of companies are starting to do thicker rotors for those reasons I mentioned. The Hayes rotors are 1.95mm thick, SRAM's new HS2 rotors are a 2.0mm thickness, Hope rotos are also thicker. Its becoming the new standard. Another benefit of thicker rotors is they are less likely to warp. The 2.3mm thickness of the TRP rotors is awesome!
@@FanatikBikeCo thanks for all the specs. I’m definitely going to consider Hayes or TRP brakes on my next enduro bike.
@@hardmtnbiker If youre thinking Hayes just go Hope V4 instead, loads more power and control, and thats resin in V4s and Metalic in Hayes, Hope makes two rotors for them a vented 3mm and an ebike/budget option 2.3mm thickness one
honestly not sure why people match rotor brands. use the best calipers and rotors :)
Man I wanted the Code RSC's & was curious about the new G2 Ultimates, & Magura Mt7 won a free $500 gift card to Backcountry who ofcourse don't carry the TRP DH-R EVO
We got a pair of gold ones from Amazon 317$ cdn each end, very weird feel, light but power was so so... Noticed one caliper was leaking from a seal; very small leak, returned, then we got a pair of grey ones from another retailer almost 400$.
Same issue with both caliper, smaller leak but still.
Idk TRP needs to stop crushing seals at assembly
😂
Honestly it doesn't inspire confidence.
Very common defect with tektro Orion 4p too;
We experienced it on a set of oem orion 4p, we found other case, can't get them warrantied idk about TRP specific warranty we returned both set to the retailer.
Both calipers had also slow leaks.
I tried this TRP after some Code RSC and Saint.. slight improvement. I after installed some Braking Brakes InCas on my Supreme DH 29.. Daaaammn!! The most powerfull and still very controllable brakes ever. Those Italians really know their stuff, they have like tons of championships on moto and now decided to do MTB brakes.. Glad they did!
The incas 2.0 are great bleeding is a crime like the hopes Oops the only downside. I ordered some Trickstuff maxima's to compare them (get delivered in 2023 😞 ) For now i am good with the incas.
Are Braking Brakes more powerfull then mt5,and trp??
@@madmanwheelies6157 Yes.
@@juanvicke6873 they are 2 piston vs 4 piston,and have 1.9mm thick rotor,i think maybe with trp 2.3mm thick rotor and braking incas caliper is the dream setup,where can i find braking incas on their site cant order just can look at the specs 🤔
I’ve been running these for a year. They’re insanely good and can’t see why I’d ever need to switch
I was skeptical at first but decided when building my Dreadnought, why not lets try something new. Now I'm not sure I ever want to run another set of brakes! Just grabbed a set of TrailEvo's for a different trail bike I'm running and couldn't be happier with the power/feel/look of both brakes. TRP is really onto something with these brakes and can't wait to see more people trying them. They'll be converts for life!
-Rich
@@FanatikBikeCo agreed. I love mine and if you want you can see them being built on my bike on Gee Milner’s dream build channel, just search for the Unno Dash and you’ll see my gold TRP’s. The only issue with the build is that we couldn’t get the right rotors at the time as they were out of stock (thx covid) but I’ve got them now and they did make a difference. I’m running the centre lock 180 on the rear and the 203 on the front. They give me great confidence on the downhills and modulation on normal trails is precise.
i tried trp dh evo side by side with hayes dominion a4 on the same rotors and while theyre both great i found that... a4 dont heat up as much and have proper modulation through bumpy terrain while dh evos will lock up. it makes them feel powerful but its inconsistent in practice as soon as things get bouncy.
note also that the boiling point of dot 5.1 and all mineral oils is car higher than the brakes will ever reach, so having an especially high boiling point does exactly nothing other than give marketing points.
power
magura > saint > dominion=trp=hope > code
modulation
hope = sram > dominion = trp > magura > saint
Which pads to you recommend for these? I just got mine installed and they get pretty loud when I squeeze them a lot
Very timely review. I just bought them, actually today. I put new Code RSCs on my Trek Slash last year and just didn't care for them. 99% of what I do is bike park and I wanted a lot more stopping power, very quickly and without a huge/long lever pull.
I'm curious if you would recommend sintered or resin pads? I went with sintered with my RSCs and they worked okay, but they created more noise than I cared for. I'm going with the resin on the TRPs.
Ive ridden the resin and the sintered pads. The resins are a ton more grabby, however, i had issues with glazing on the rear with the resin. Went to sintered and they were okay but felt they lacked power until they were really heated up. Finally tried the red backed semi-metallic and they are amazing. Have very similar bite like the resin, but handle heat better. The resin on my front brake is doing fine but ill swap it for semi's when the pads are done.
I've been running the Resin pads and loving them. I do go through them a bit quicker than the sintered but great feel
@@FanatikBikeCo Thanks for the feedback, it is appreciated.
@@rickb.1656 just curious how the brakes are working out for you? Thanks!
@@ShaftShackDotCom Hi, thanks for asking. I wish I had an answer for you. I live in Idaho. There is still snow on the ground. My bike (Trek Slash) and new brakes are ready to go, but alas. I think I can get on some trails in May, but no bike parks until June. I'll update you when I have some, hopefully good, info. If I forget, remind me.
Do they make a carbon lever? Love my RSC carbon levers on those extra cold days! 😉
No carbon lever from TRP
What saddle is that?
Are there matchmakers available for these brake levers, for running the shifter and dropper combos as clean as possible.
Yep there are some for dropper and like 2-3 options for SRAM and shimano shifters although the shifter one lacks of adjustment
They do make adapters and I just picked up a set for my stuff. I'm running a One Up dropper so running the matchmaker on the left and SRAM AXS for my shifter so match maker there too.
trpcycling.com/product/shift-lever-adapters/
Its the 3.7 adapter that you need for matchmaker stuff and what I'm running now
Curious how they compare to the Magura MT7s which I currently have on my Bronson!
Haven't spent much time on the Magura's personally. Maybe once or twice and I was pretty underwhelmed, didn't feel overly powerful or responsive. These TRP's just have such a solid feel with great control. I know there are a ton of people who swear by the Magura's but they just aren't for me. I'd definitely say they are a worthwhile brake to check out if you are in the market.
-Rich @Fanatik
How is the maintenance on the TRP? I run magura, and although I'm happy with the performance they are very finicky.
Do you still ride Margura? I am done with how finicky they are and really looking at these TRPs
How is the power? I was considering RSCs again as I liked the modulation. Then Hayes Dominion A4s seems like a choice. And now these?
It seems to me the DH-R EVO and the Dominions are the strongest. I personally would pick the Codes for the reasons outlined here:
th-cam.com/video/hQYCV-7hIOM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hJRI270qvoem9RXe
I have never felt that they didn't slow me down as fast as I'd hoped when running a 200mm rotor. They're certainly strong enough to lock up your wheel, and at that point it isn't doing much to slow you down anyways.
- Dan P.
I checked the website, but couldn't find TRP's mineral oil, only Shimano's.
We don't currently have any in stock but you can get oil direct from TRP
trpcycling.com/product/mineral-oil/
Why are you running the bigger rotor on the front?
It is typical to see a larger rotor up front as that is where the majority of your stopping power comes from. On the Dreadnought frames max rotor size is 203mm. The Zeb fork I'm running can accomodate a larger rotor, up to 220. So I run the 203mm out back (max size the frame can accept) and the 220 up front (max size the fork can accept)
Which to choose between TRP DH-EVO or Hayes Dominion A4? I can't decide.
Well personally I'd say TRP DH-R EVO. I have ridden a set of the Hayes and don't get me wrong they are powerful! I just prefer the lever feel of the TRP over the Hayes as well as the modulation. You can't go wrong with either.
If you want really grabby brakes and you have smaller hands Hayes
If you want a powerful brake that still has a decent amount of modulation and a larger lever feel go TRP.
-Rich @ Fanatik
My friends who know I can’t afford to fix my bike just put these brakes on my trek for me. I never expected the stopping power they have. I got black.
So how exactly does a smaller hose increase the hydraulic pressure in the system?
so if you take the same amount of fluid and try to push it through a smaller hose it increases the pressure!
Yes, an increase of pressure is needed at the lever to get the same mass flow rate through a smaller hose. This does not increase the pressure in the caliper during the tiny dynamic portion of a braking cycle. You are only adding resistance to flow with decreased hose ID. Once flow is stopped and it is a static system, pressure at the lever still equals pressure at the caliper regardless of hose ID. The increase in flow resistance in this low pressure / low flow system is negligible, but is certainly is not a help.
The decrease in ID will decrease the accumulator effect of the hose. This effect is non-linear because of how hoop stress is calculated. I would bet this is the reason it was done.
@@SuperDethBoythat’s some proper fluid dynamics explanation. Cheers!
How do you think these will do for Bike Trials riding?
Good! They are extremely strong.
You can find em here:
www.fanatikbike.com/products/trp-dh-r-evo-disc-brake?variant=39437333954606
- Dan P.
Hi guys, im running basic TRP slate evo brakes on my Norco. I notice after long downhill ride they start to fade. Do you think is worth to upgrade to DHR EVOs? Also im thinking about bigger rotors from 200 and 180 to 220 and 200. Can too strong brake and big rotor damage my fork after time (Rock shox pike select)- What do you think? thanks for advice guys
Are they offer more power then mt5 or mt7
Definitely one of the most powerful brakes I've ever ridden!
DHR overkill for a tallboy or trail evo the way to go?
So I actually just got a set of Trail Evo's on second bike that isn't my Dreadnought. The Trail EVO's have a bit more modulation and not quite as much power as the DH-R. Still plenty powerful though! So I'd say it comes down to what you are riding on your Tallboy. If its steep descents, DH-R probably would be the go to, but if its just general trail riding save a little weight and go Trail EVO.
-Rich
Would they work with Shimano XT Ice tech rotors?
Technically you could run them on an XT rotor, but the thicker TRP rotor will give you a better feel
What about Trickstuff? Would you ride them?
Those brakes would be pretty sweet to try out! They are pretty pricy and hard to come by though! Always open to try new stuff, but for right now I'm absolutely loving my TRP's!
-Rich
@@FanatikBikeCo i know. They were purchased by DT Swiss recently so I hope they will scale up the production.
As for TRP - I believe you. I have seen a lot of good things that people say about these.
I am personally running XT 4cal brakes on my 110/120mm XC full suspension Anthem but I definitely fell they lack stopping power on hard descents.
Are they as powerful as Dominion A4 or Magura MT7 ?
I haven't personally ran either of those brakes but from what I have ridden they are by far the most powerful brakes I've been on. I've done XT's and Code RSC's before these and I'd choose the TRP DH-R EVO 100% of the time over those two brakes. I've felt some of the A4's around the shop on co workers bikes and just don't like the lever feel. I'm sold on TRP's from here on out!
-Rich
@@FanatikBikeCo what about the lever feel on the A4s turned you off? Too light?
Similar power to the Dominions, I feel they have more power and much better modulation than the MT7's.
@@scheibelhut38 Personally that floppy lever really bugs me. Everyone in the shop who is running the A4's love them and the lever feel but just wasn't for me. -Rich
@@Bluelights17 even more power than mt7? they're the most powerful brakes i've ever tried so far, way more than my saints with trickstuff pads on
WHy are you runing the 200 and 220 over 203 and 223?
Resin pads tho
can't trust reviews from salesman
This is just a promotional video; these brakes are trash and i highly regret my purchase
Rich does love those brakes, he runs them on every bike he has. Why don't you like them?
- Dan P.