I actually cried when Jack appeared. I knew it was him straight away as soon as I heard the voice but I kept as calm as possible until I actually saw his face. I'm so so so so so so happy he's back. JB is just the best actor ever
When I heard his voice I was like 'is that Jack? They surely haven't brought Jack back. No way". Then as I listened more and then he appeared I was like 'Waaagh, they've brought Jack back.' with a huge grin on my face. John Barrowman did a cracking job of stepping back into Jack's shoes.
He probably will be back though, if not throughout the series than in the finale, most likely. After what we've seen so far, who we've seen so far I'm curious who else we're gonna see.
I recently discussed his return in regards to any new Torchwood but I honestly thought John would be too old to embody the ‘ageless’ role anymore, yet here we are, how lovely to see Captain Jack again! Mind you, there was a lot of lens flares over his backlit face, hahaha!
I would watch the hell out of that episode. Imagine him meeting the Moffat-era companions 😂 Meets Amy: "Ooh, red hair. Maybe next regeneration, eh Doctor?" Meets Clara: "Well Doctor, you've finally found someone who's out of your league." Meets Bill: *turns her from gay to bisexual
Whenever they were on screen I was like... holy crap people actually made that. They were beautifully created that's for sure. And the episode itself was pretty great as well.
@@Mrchair-bk5ns Well, the Judoon are hunting down an alien fugitive, Jack appears, someone we know at first as a loveable character turns out to be a Time Lord and chameleon arcs play a role.
I agree with your first part but not your second. The Doctor (ours) made reference to not being able to get to The Master, so I think The Not Doctor might be from wherever he is, whether it's another universe, dimension or wherever. She definitely not a past incarnation of our Doctor.
Finally felt like a Doctor Who episode in such a way that hasn't really happened since Twice upon a time. The judoon were so cool, very intriguing twist with a supposedly past doctor and an exciting Captain Jack & cybermen teaser. Really looking forward to seeing how everything unfolds 😁
I did think Spyfall really felt like a Doctor Who episode, particularly part 2 with it's bouncing through time periods shenanigans, but I agree that tonight's episode was epic.
To be honest, I had a problem with this episodes continuity just like past 4 episodes. I think the reveals that shock you won’t stand the test of time. It’s also down to too many “bait” or unanswered questions. If all a writer does is say “remember how good Jack was?” and “remember galifrey” it’s never going to beat reveal episodes like Utopia.
Alex Saunders 1. Your opinion is yours. Respect others who also have opinions. There’s no need to call other people names. 2. Please use punctuations in your sentences.
Better hope it’s not a Pre Hartnell Doctor, given that we literally saw Clara tell him which Tardis to steal, then during Hartnells first Trip, he spotted that the Tardis got stuck as a Police Box.
I remember Brain of Morbius, Morbius was showing the fourth Doctor faces and he was trying to tell the Doctor that those were his. Also in Lungbarrow and one of the early scripts for the Doctor Who movie it was going to feature a character known as the Other, an ancient gallifreyian who was an associate of Rassilon and Omega who grew tired of Rassilon’s corruption and so threw himself into the Eye of Harmony and became reincarnated into the Doctor. It’s all really weird. I attribute the Morbius part as just all of Morbius’ past regenerations and he’s just lying to the Doctor into trying to trick him.
Caiera Su'mara where is everyone getting all this pre hartnell Doctor rumors anyway, it didn’t say anything like that in the trailer unless i missed something
Definitely, but I still don't like how every episode ends with the Doctor and the gang meeting up in the TARDIS to give a summary of the episode. "Show, don't tell", if you know what I mean :P
FLO SHO PLO SHO WO MO SHO LO MA NO CO MA SHO NO PLO VO MA SHO FLO SHO VO MA KRO SHO PO MA RO MA SHO TO PLO DO MA SO SHO MA SO SHO MO FLO NO KRO NO MA SO SHO MA SO SHO QWO TRO FLO SHO FLO SHO BO RO MA VO MA SHO DO FLO SHO VO FLO RO DO MA DO FLO SHO VO FLO MO SHO NO MA SHO CO PLO RO FLO PLO GO RO MA FO KRO MA SHO VO MA KRO SHO SO PLO SHO DO FLO SHO SO MA CO MA NO MA GO FLO MO SHO VO FLO MO SHO NO MA SHO FO TRO LO KRO GO FLO ZO KRO NO HO MA
Remember when people said the paper flying out of the TARDIS at the end of 'Twice Upon a Time' was meant to symbolise the end of really complicated and confusing scripts. HAhahahahaha
As much as I'm excited by the prospect that this storyline could payoff hugely, I'm slightly concerned it's just oversteering from the fact that Series 11 existed in some weird, atemporal, acontextual void which ignored like all preexisting lore
Series 11 didn't have enough callbacks or references or integration into the overarching world? YEEEET: THE MASTER!!! Captain JACK!!! GAllifrey!! A NEW Doctor!!!!
Yes, very possibly. I also wonder... having a new Doctor in the 50th Anniversary kind of worked but didn't reeeaaally work, like I'm not wholly convinced by it. Can Chibnall pull off what Moffatt struggled to? only time will tell
@Steven That is a concern I've had too. I mean, not only have we had The Master, The Judoon, Gallifrey, The Doctor-Not-Doctor and Jack, all within four stories but we've also had 7 well-known actors in the first 4 stories too. It does seem a bit like overcompensation but it all depends if they can pull it all together for the finale. Fingers crossed and all that.
Perhaps Ruth is from an alternative universe. Could make sense? I don't know. I'm just too over-excited over Jack returning that I cannot concentrate on anything else. Loved this episode to bits. 11/10!
@@MatthewsStopMotions Mm. I don't really mind the whole Timeless Child thing. It actually provides context to the Brain of Morbius and stuff. As long as people don't stupidly say she's immortal now. Cuz she had her DNA changed to a normal Gallifreyan by presumably Rassilon or someone, so she still has regeneration limits.
Massive throwback episode! Chameleon arch (saw a Timelord a-coming early on), Judoon, CAPTAIN JACK (!!!!!!!!!), Nanogenes, Cybermen, lamenting over the destruction of Gallifrey... I squealed so loudly, I'm sure my neighbours could hear.
I'm surprised how not one person mentioned that the 7th Doctor in Rememberance of the Daleks hinted at remembering being around at the beginning of time lords so I don't think it's that doctor
This was honestly if not the best then one of the best doctor who episodes that Jodie Whittaker has done so far, we got so much, we got captain Jack, mention of the cybermen, Judoon, mention of the master and then there was the Tardis with 3 time lords Like, whaaaaat 🤩
Thank you Doctor Who for all the Memories, the moment i seen a companion i used to have adventures in the tardis with over 10 years ago when i was an 8 year old boy return to my screen made tear up in joy of how far this show has came with me, what a beautiful show it is, thank you Verity Lambert and Sydney Newman for this treasure on TV!
He's the first doctor in regards to the Doctor we know, that's never going to change. Even if lore wise it isn't true. Like how 11 isn't TECHNICALLY 11 because War exists.
Pastel Galaxy Studio the doctor couldn't regenerate because that was doctor donna metacrysis doc. I am talking about the doctor native to that twin universe
Hey, if anyone's interested, I'm reviewing all the Doctor Who stories on my channel, with me just having uploaded my review of: 'Invasion Of The Dinosaurs (1974)!' No pressure, of-course; It just might be worth checking out! :)
@Isaac Dodshon don’t assume that yet. It might be a alternate universe doctor. If it is a pre hartnell then we riot in the streets. Until then we keep our fingers crossed 🤞
They might be a rogue group. I mean, look at their ship and weapons (Rusty / old and illegal), and I doubt many Judoon commanders have horns that can be snapped off like a lump of soap and damaged eyes!
...This is one of the most confusing Doctor Who stories I’ve ever seen. It’s as confusing as Ghost Light (AND CLASSIC FANS KNOW HOW CONFUSING GHOST LIGHT IS).
Literally had a breakdown when Jack came back, omg sooo happy!!. I was like I recognise that voice. Barrowman kept that one quiet. When did he find the time to film it as he’s so busy. Great episode didn’t see any of that coming woah.
Maybe 1 of 2 theroys: 1: somone changed time: hense why the master is bad, galfray is dead and ruth is the drs clone(ig?) But who would want that mutch CHAOS? Likely the trickster. Or 2: Ruth is the drs clone or a mid regenration from 12-13 or "the valard?" People keep saying that.
So, if the Ruth!Doctor is before William Hartnell, how is the TARDIS a police box? Because they said that the reason why the TARDIS is a police box was when the Doctor and Susan were living in the 1960′s (and we did see when the Doctor and Susan left Gallifrey, his TARDIS was the default look (pre-police box)).
The Ruth doctor was willing to kill, which our doctor dosn't even consider doing. The Ruth doctor had a protector, Lee who I also believe is a time lord, and if tied in with the doctor, he is the master, but another version
Overloard 7 depends if you only count the lives of Humans and Timelords. The Doctor never had a problem with killing his enemies, Cybermen, Daleks, Sontarans etc the whole “no guns” trope is nonsense.
My theory is that Ruth is a past incarnation of the Doctor, but all time lords can have their memory wiped or something connected to the drums as she is the timeless child. I think the lone cyber man is coming after her.
TLDR for some of you: I just recently got to watch seasons 11 and 12, because reasons, and I realize pretty much everyone has had their say, but while there were some pretty good episodes, it really just felt like every thing was happening to the doctor, instead of her being involved in it or taking charge like the previous doctors did. It felt like that whole "I don't know who I am yet" thing that comes when they first regenerate, just stuck with her the whole time. She hardly knew any enemy she came across & seemed to barely know what to do. I'm not saying the previous doctors always figured it out right away, but they always took charge & 13 tries to take charge, but it almost seems like everyone else is the hero instead of her.
I had a power cut mid episode. I screamed. The blimin judoon doesn't want me to watch Doctor Who. ALSO CAPTAIN JACK! YESSS! But I do want torchwood back on bbc Iplayer.
I think the general consensus seems to be, I love this episode but I’m so confused as to how doctor Ruth fits into the timeline. So glad to see Captain Jack Harkness back again. Really enjoyed seeing that. Good to see the Judoon back as well.
best part of the episode Jack being back. second and third best parts of the episode, seeing Jack on screen again, and again. Now, please I need more Jack :)
Quite a stretch and it is just a theory but it could be river song as we have seen her (regenerate?) Before and we also know that she steals the tardis from the doctor. (Sorry if I've missed something stupid I dont really know the lure behind river that well)
This was the best episode in years. This is what fans want. More mysteries, intrigue, story arcs, awesome returning characters, etc. Please BBC give us more of THIS! Not just dumb history lessons one-off episodes.
I don't mind Ruth being the Doctor, but only if she is in the future - because I can't take the lack of continuity. However, Jack was back and everyone loves jack so
My theory is Ruth is a time anomaly. A regeneration of the Doctor plucked from time to fight in the first time war. Ruth was the first regeneration of the new cycle after Matt smith's Dr and before capaldi's. The Doctor was plucked from the time stream inbetween regenerations. After the first time war had ended the timelords then placed a mindwiped Doctor back into her own timeline where she would regenerate into capaldi's Dr. This could explain why the process of that regen was so abrupt and the loss of memory in series 8.
I'm against the idea of a doctor before Hartnell 😕 I am hoping that this turns out to be a parallel version and we get to see the Peter Cushing and Richard E Grant versions as well
@@M_no_more About the Other, it's a bit complicated. In the 7th Doctor era, script editor Andrew Cartmel had a plan to restore some of the mystery about the Doctor which repeated visits to Gallifrey had worn away. There are several references to the Doctor not being a normal Time Lord, having a great secret, and connecting him to Rassilon and Omega, the founding fathers of Gallifrey. That would have led to a story arc exploring that (known as the Cartmel masterplan) but the show was discontinued. The Virgin New Adventure novels tried to continue that story, and this is where we get into very dubious canonicity and POSSIBLE MAJOR SPOILER TERRITORY. I don't really know the precise details, but the novels state that there was a third founder, known as the Other, and that Time Lords do not reproduce in the normal way but instead use devices known as looms. There's a mention of the Other having a granddaughter called Susan, with the general implication is that the Doctor is a reincarnation of the Other (not the same person). That lines up suspiciously well with "the timeless child" and the two "Doctors" (one seemingly from the distant past) we have just seen. Also the Master specifically mentioned the founding fathers of Gallifrey in Spyfall part 2.
I think I know who the other Doctor is and why Jodie Whitaker's doctor doesn't remember her. Because she is and isn't the Doctor. In the very old series of Doctor Who in the Trial of a Time Lord, their was a character introduced that was said to be about this time in the Doctors timeline called the "VALEYARD". It was a version of the Doctor, but a different version. think of Ying and Yang, Black and White. 2 versions of one character, but completely different.
They were ok..... 2nd part of spyfall let it down to rushed to finish, as for Tesla the villain looked like the one from runaway bride, plus had too much of the companions in and not enough Doctor.... This had it right with the companions adding to the doctor and not the other way round. Which it has seemed to be recently.
Judoon Law 101 1. Always use extreme force 2. The criminals do not have rights 3. Civilian casualties aren't our problem 4. Never talk out of a situation..... BLAST YOUR WAY OUT!!!!!!!
Lmao. To be fair - they aren't nice people. They're Police For Hire and can be "good" or "bad" depending on their current leader. Of which clearly she wasn't a nice person.
such a good episode up until the last reveal, and because of that, it is not official that series’s 11 and 12 and any subsequent chibnall series’ are not canon, unless it’s an alternate universe doctor, it’s not canon
I know what's going on- Space time continuum distruption aka a paradox, causing past to become future and future to become past all in present time and Jack was sent back in time by the doctor
Ahhhh!!! What an episode - so many questions, but not enough answers! I can't wait to find out how this series arc continues...Well done Chibnall, you've really given us something to think about!
This was the best episode of Jodie's so far. Mainly loved the parts with Jack. But please relax all the dialogues. We spent half the episode in literally 3 locations and just watching characters talk.
This episode was extremely consuming.. and I love that. Last season was way to simplistic and slow. This is quick, confusing and this is Doctor Who 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
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im sorry that episode just broke my brain so much that i can now relate to my windows laptop during an update.
@The girl who fell to Earth ye and the fact that the entire time I was just like "Jack Jack Jack Jack Jack Jack" didn't help me think😂
When I first heard Captain Jack’s voice I was like “it’s gotta be him”, I still had some doubt though until he actually appeared.
Same and they when I saw him I got all excited and got abit of emotional
That’s what I thought! I died when he came on screen I was shaky and crying and shocked
I literally started crying out of sheer joy and then I got bummed when I realised we wouldn't see him with the doctor yet :(
It took the flirting for me to properly accept and realise it was him.
My first thought was "it can't be him, sureley not" but I'm so glad they brought him back
This episode shouldn't have been called "Fugitive of the Judoon". It should've been called "Ok kids. Get your inhalers ready"
😂
I think it was a rather crafty title by chibnall and the gang, fam? CREW? NA I need to work on that
Brilliant comment 😂👍🏻
It was called fugitive if the judoon
That was the name of an episode of the sarah janes adventures, it wouldn't work
I actually cried when Jack appeared. I knew it was him straight away as soon as I heard the voice but I kept as calm as possible until I actually saw his face. I'm so so so so so so happy he's back. JB is just the best actor ever
When I heard his voice I was like 'is that Jack? They surely haven't brought Jack back. No way". Then as I listened more and then he appeared I was like 'Waaagh, they've brought Jack back.' with a huge grin on my face. John Barrowman did a cracking job of stepping back into Jack's shoes.
@@hotdog1214 I was just happy that the Judoon were back. I didn't think that there would be any more surprises at all haha
Yeah same, I was just settling in for a fun adventure with the Judoon but boy did I get more than I bargained for, and some!
But... Nothing is ever straight when Captain Jack is involved ;)
Come on now, we've got to see more of Cpt. Jack now that he's back. We will be seeing him again, right?
I hope so because if we don't there will be riots
@@Lucien0012 Yeah, I also Hopes He Comes Back as a Companion.
Or The Doctor asks Jack To Restart Torchwood or something Like that
For sure we will in the finale of course
He hinted at that.
He probably will be back though, if not throughout the series than in the finale, most likely. After what we've seen so far, who we've seen so far I'm curious who else we're gonna see.
I have always wanted Captain Jack to return, I am so happy he is returned. As soon as I heard his voice I could not stop screaming in joy!❤️❤️❤️
FlunkSpunk I felt the same
Same, I literally screamed when I heard his voice!
Where is he?
I recently discussed his return in regards to any new Torchwood but I honestly thought John would be too old to embody the ‘ageless’ role anymore, yet here we are, how lovely to see Captain Jack again!
Mind you, there was a lot of lens flares over his backlit face, hahaha!
Cosmo 456 haha lol
I screamed when Jack appeared, I'm still grinning like a complete idiot. Can't wait for him to meet the Doctor.
"I've got to see this!!"
samee i'm so happy they brought him back, aghh this episode was so good
not even kidding im the exact same!
Which one
@@3dprintingteen164 first comment
Alternativ title: Jack flirting with everything with a pulse
Doc _11
No change there then. 😂
You’ve just got to love John Barrowman.
Spoilers
I would watch the hell out of that episode. Imagine him meeting the Moffat-era companions 😂
Meets Amy: "Ooh, red hair. Maybe next regeneration, eh Doctor?"
Meets Clara: "Well Doctor, you've finally found someone who's out of your league."
Meets Bill: *turns her from gay to bisexual
.. So jack?😂
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The Judoon looked soo good, that animatronic performance, blummin eck weren’t they great?
Lumibear agreed! Definitely had an upgrade in technology since 2008!
Whenever they were on screen I was like... holy crap people actually made that.
They were beautifully created that's for sure. And the episode itself was pretty great as well.
This episode was just Series 3 wrapped in a neat and complicated little bow
How?
@@Mrchair-bk5ns
Well, the Judoon are hunting down an alien fugitive, Jack appears, someone we know at first as a loveable character turns out to be a Time Lord and chameleon arcs play a role.
The only bad part of the episode is that jodie didn't speak judoon
Agreed
Agreed, though the Tennant joke made up for it.
fro mo jo do ko mo do ho,
timrob12 “mah ho”
@@crimsondynamo615 Jo blo fo po jo.
My thoery:
Ruth is from an alternate universe, and she is a future version of the doctor from the curse of fatal death
I agree with your first part but not your second. The Doctor (ours) made reference to not being able to get to The Master, so I think The Not Doctor might be from wherever he is, whether it's another universe, dimension or wherever. She definitely not a past incarnation of our Doctor.
@@lwaves well let's wait and see
Valyard
@@lwaves she could be with that timeless child thing
@@menwithven2862 wasn't he an alternate version of the 13th life that never came to pass?
Judoon ✔
Captain Jack ✔
Chameleon arch ✔
An unknown Doctor incarnation ✔
10/10
Couldn't agree more! :D
Ik I loved it
Critics didnt, and kind of agree. Way to many plot twists and unanswered questions.
You're easily impressed. Personally, I prefer a little *originality.*
James Coyne 2 incarnations! Including Gat!
Finally felt like a Doctor Who episode in such a way that hasn't really happened since Twice upon a time. The judoon were so cool, very intriguing twist with a supposedly past doctor and an exciting Captain Jack & cybermen teaser. Really looking forward to seeing how everything unfolds 😁
I did think Spyfall really felt like a Doctor Who episode, particularly part 2 with it's bouncing through time periods shenanigans, but I agree that tonight's episode was epic.
I agree. The only thing missing for me was the epic music from Murray Gold.
To be honest, I had a problem with this episodes continuity just like past 4 episodes. I think the reveals that shock you won’t stand the test of time. It’s also down to too many “bait” or unanswered questions. If all a writer does is say “remember how good Jack was?” and “remember galifrey” it’s never going to beat reveal episodes like Utopia.
@@ThomasDailey I miss Murray Gold's music so much! 😭❤
@@ThomasDailey Honestly, Akinola's composition for Ruth's reveal was freaking gold (no pun intended :p)
The Judoon, Captain Jack Harkness, the shocking reveal...
*_squeals like a little girl_*
Andrew Hsieh did the same
Honestly that’s quite sexist
Alex Saunders 1. Your opinion is yours. Respect others who also have opinions. There’s no need to call other people names.
2. Please use punctuations in your sentences.
@@KalinnaAY i read his comment, where is the name calling?
@@aravchubsbaba which part of his comment was sexist??? 🤔
Fugitive of he Judoon not Prisoner of the Judoon! Every time lol
Fun fact prisoner of the judoon was a sarah jane adventures episode
Yeah - Prisoner Of The Judoon is an episode of Sarah Jane Adventures lol
Judoon platoon near that lagoon.
-13th Doctor, 2020
Its more of a canal
-Ryan Sinclair,2020
Or on the moon
@@reversethepolarityoftheneu773 Ryan Sinclair DON'T YOU DARE
Ketchup Boy Extra in Gloucester out of all places.
Better hope it’s not a Pre Hartnell Doctor, given that we literally saw Clara tell him which Tardis to steal, then during Hartnells first Trip, he spotted that the Tardis got stuck as a Police Box.
I remember Brain of Morbius, Morbius was showing the fourth Doctor faces and he was trying to tell the Doctor that those were his. Also in Lungbarrow and one of the early scripts for the Doctor Who movie it was going to feature a character known as the Other, an ancient gallifreyian who was an associate of Rassilon and Omega who grew tired of Rassilon’s corruption and so threw himself into the Eye of Harmony and became reincarnated into the Doctor. It’s all really weird. I attribute the Morbius part as just all of Morbius’ past regenerations and he’s just lying to the Doctor into trying to trick him.
@@crimsondynamo615 even if this was the case, he still wouldnt have a police box as a tardis 😉
Caiera Su'mara where is everyone getting all this pre hartnell Doctor rumors anyway, it didn’t say anything like that in the trailer unless i missed something
Crimson Dynamo it was rumoured before the season started by a leak from within the show, so far everything is looking to be true
Steven McGuinness looks like Lungbarrow and the Other might just become canon after all. Course Canon is an ugly word in the Doctor Who Fandom.
She can't be a Doctor before Hartwell because if she was the Tarsus wouldn't have been a police box
me thinks this is a Doctor from another universe. Either way I'm shaking. WHAT AN EPISODE
@Ri Chester it really doesn't.
me too she got to be from a parallel world
Valeria Naranjo Cruz Yes it does
I think it's a doctor from another timeline, or an alternate universe
It could also be to do with the Timeless Child which would be interesting
This episode has got to be the best episode of Jodie Witaker. I screamed when I heared Cptn Jacks voice
Waryaa Ali My niece came to check on me when I screamed. Then I flipped out when the rest happened. So much stuff!
This was the best episode for her like it actually was
Definitely, but I still don't like how every episode ends with the Doctor and the gang meeting up in the TARDIS to give a summary of the episode. "Show, don't tell", if you know what I mean :P
How the episode went:
"What?"
"WHAT?"
"WhAT?"
"WHHAAATT?"
FLO SHO PLO SHO WO MO SHO LO MA NO CO MA SHO NO PLO VO MA SHO FLO SHO VO MA KRO SHO PO MA RO MA SHO TO PLO DO MA SO SHO MA SO SHO MO FLO NO KRO NO MA SO SHO MA SO SHO QWO TRO FLO SHO FLO SHO BO RO MA VO MA SHO DO FLO SHO VO FLO RO DO MA DO FLO SHO VO FLO MO SHO NO MA SHO CO PLO RO FLO PLO GO RO MA FO KRO MA SHO VO MA KRO SHO SO PLO SHO DO FLO SHO SO MA CO MA NO MA GO FLO MO SHO VO FLO MO SHO NO MA SHO FO TRO LO KRO GO FLO ZO KRO NO HO MA
*Titanic enters the frame*
Remember when people said the paper flying out of the TARDIS at the end of 'Twice Upon a Time' was meant to symbolise the end of really complicated and confusing scripts. HAhahahahaha
As much as I'm excited by the prospect that this storyline could payoff hugely, I'm slightly concerned it's just oversteering from the fact that Series 11 existed in some weird, atemporal, acontextual void which ignored like all preexisting lore
Series 11 didn't have enough callbacks or references or integration into the overarching world? YEEEET: THE MASTER!!! Captain JACK!!! GAllifrey!! A NEW Doctor!!!!
Yes, very possibly. I also wonder... having a new Doctor in the 50th Anniversary kind of worked but didn't reeeaaally work, like I'm not wholly convinced by it. Can Chibnall pull off what Moffatt struggled to? only time will tell
@Steven That is a concern I've had too. I mean, not only have we had The Master, The Judoon, Gallifrey, The Doctor-Not-Doctor and Jack, all within four stories but we've also had 7 well-known actors in the first 4 stories too. It does seem a bit like overcompensation but it all depends if they can pull it all together for the finale. Fingers crossed and all that.
lwaves I’m still need The Sontarans returns after The Judoon.
Perhaps Ruth is from an alternative universe. Could make sense? I don't know. I'm just too over-excited over Jack returning that I cannot concentrate on anything else. Loved this episode to bits. 11/10!
But like captain Jack harkness
IKR
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
That episode left me shook
things are getting spicy in the doctor who canon it seems
Doctor Who: ''What's this Canon?''
It has always been very wibbly wobbly, it may be about you get another kink.
Yeah it has been XD
@@MatthewsStopMotions Mm. I don't really mind the whole Timeless Child thing. It actually provides context to the Brain of Morbius and stuff. As long as people don't stupidly say she's immortal now. Cuz she had her DNA changed to a normal Gallifreyan by presumably Rassilon or someone, so she still has regeneration limits.
anyone else feel the pain when ruth ripped the horn off the Judoon captain ??
can't really emphasise with the rhino alien police tbh, soz
Massive throwback episode! Chameleon arch (saw a Timelord a-coming early on), Judoon, CAPTAIN JACK (!!!!!!!!!), Nanogenes, Cybermen, lamenting over the destruction of Gallifrey...
I squealed so loudly, I'm sure my neighbours could hear.
It's called Fugitive of the Judoon isn't it
It is...they got the title wrong lol
@@ValeyardStudios It's not a very good title, I don't blame them.
@@27danjel What are you talking about? XD
@@her0880 About the episode's title.
I better see jack again this season or imma be mad😂
moabpanda01 Probably in the finale
Isaac Wilkinson hope he becomes a constant companion, leading to the face of boe in s13 maybe
I'm surprised how not one person mentioned that the 7th Doctor in Rememberance of the Daleks hinted at remembering being around at the beginning of time lords so I don't think it's that doctor
I've not been a massive fan of recent episodes but this episode was brilliant
This was honestly if not the best then one of the best doctor who episodes that Jodie Whittaker has done so far, we got so much, we got captain Jack, mention of the cybermen, Judoon, mention of the master and then there was the Tardis with 3 time lords
Like, whaaaaat 🤩
Just 2 timelords lol
@@tylermurphy2260 There was the other lady too.
There was the doctor, Ruth and the one that lead the Judoon
Is this some sort of parallel time line doctor, in relation with the "lie" to the origins of time lords? Hum...
Thank you Doctor Who for all the Memories, the moment i seen a companion i used to have adventures in the tardis with over 10 years ago when i was an 8 year old boy return to my screen made tear up in joy of how far this show has came with me, what a beautiful show it is, thank you Verity Lambert and Sydney Newman for this treasure on TV!
This was Fan Service: The Episode - which I very much loved!!!
Gotta do it every now and again. Puttin gthis much in one episode though, damn that was crazy.
I don’t care what this series tells me
Hartnell is the first Doctor!!!
He's the first doctor in regards to the Doctor we know, that's never going to change. Even if lore wise it isn't true. Like how 11 isn't TECHNICALLY 11 because War exists.
Hartnell stole the tardis. She cannot be before him
We don't know yet calm down.
Ruth could be from an alternate universe, don't make assumptions too soon.
TheManado finally, someone who knows how to step back and take a breather
Ruth is the Doctor from the alternate cyberman universe where Rose lives.
It can't be because that doctor cannot regenerate
But it was an alternate universe which would mean an alternate gallifrey and a possible alternate doctor
@@lucarioknight4650 but it was confirmed the doctor didn't exist in that universe
Perhaps she's from an alternate universe, but most likely not the same one with Rose and the Meta-Crisis Doctor.
Pastel Galaxy Studio the doctor couldn't regenerate because that was doctor donna metacrysis doc. I am talking about the doctor native to that twin universe
Best episode of the season but I am so confused
Yeah same
Yep
My brain has literally stopped functioning
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@Isaac Dodshon don’t assume that yet. It might be a alternate universe doctor. If it is a pre hartnell then we riot in the streets. Until then we keep our fingers crossed 🤞
I thought the Judoon had no jurisdiction over the Earth. That's why they had to use an H20 scoop on the hospital in Smith and Jones
Danny K 2001 they don’t.
She literally said this about 3 times in the episode.
They might be a rogue group. I mean, look at their ship and weapons (Rusty / old and illegal), and I doubt many Judoon commanders have horns that can be snapped off like a lump of soap and damaged eyes!
Danny K 2001 they are a group under contract from someone who isn’t following the rules of the Judoon. They bring it up in the episode
they did it any ways
Still trying to get my head around what happened
...This is one of the most confusing Doctor Who stories I’ve ever seen. It’s as confusing as Ghost Light (AND CLASSIC FANS KNOW HOW CONFUSING GHOST LIGHT IS).
Ghost Light isn't confusing… unless you haven't figured the story out I guess...
I know who the another doctor like they better not Change doctor past
Ghost Light is easy to follow.
;-)
Macra I’ve watched many times and I still don’t get the story
lwaves I mean..it keeps itself to itself and doesn’t seem to change the entire history of Doctor Who...
Literally had a breakdown when Jack came back, omg sooo happy!!. I was like I recognise that voice. Barrowman kept that one quiet. When did he find the time to film it as he’s so busy. Great episode didn’t see any of that coming woah.
I can’t believe they’ve re-written the Doctor’s history again. Glad Jack is back, though. 😊
Watch the brain of morbius and u will understand
Can't of been pre first doctor. The first doctor is the one who stole the TARDIS.
@@theminecrafttfl He stole a 'antique' Tardis, maybe it's always been his from before.
Maybe she’s a Doctor from a different universe
Maybe 1 of 2 theroys:
1: somone changed time: hense why the master is bad, galfray is dead and ruth is the drs clone(ig?)
But who would want that mutch CHAOS? Likely the trickster.
Or 2:
Ruth is the drs clone or a mid regenration from 12-13 or "the valard?" People keep saying that.
Jack has to return for the finale! OMG! OMG! I can’t even think straight! That moment had me so hyped! I can’t believe he’s back!😆
We better get an interview with you know who
Captain Jack Harkness
Here he comes in a ruddy great tractor! ;)
3:18 Introducing Jo Martin as the first black Doctor.
Stephen Murphy Only if it’s an alternate universe doctor or post-Jodie. She can’t be pre-Hartnell. Otherwise I refuse to accept this as canon.
@@iHDFootball She can't be because Hartnell's doctor was the one that obtained the police box tardis as seen in Day of the Doctor
@@a_cats
It can be, if The Doctor is reincarnation of the 3rd founding father/mother?.
@@jeckjeck3119 But if they both had different tardises then why did this one have a police box exterior as well?
So, if the Ruth!Doctor is before William Hartnell, how is the TARDIS a police box? Because they said that the reason why the TARDIS is a police box was when the Doctor and Susan were living in the 1960′s (and we did see when the Doctor and Susan left Gallifrey, his TARDIS was the default look (pre-police box)).
AMAZING EPISODE BEST OF SEASON 12 BY FAR
I agree!!!!!!!!!!!
The Ruth doctor was willing to kill, which our doctor dosn't even consider doing. The Ruth doctor had a protector, Lee who I also believe is a time lord, and if tied in with the doctor, he is the master, but another version
Johnny Bhoy The Doctor has Killed many, many times.
@@stevenmcguinness4751 yeah, but excluding the war doctor he was never fighting an entire platoon of judoon and waving a gun around
Overloard 7 depends if you only count the lives of Humans and Timelords. The Doctor never had a problem with killing his enemies, Cybermen, Daleks, Sontarans etc the whole “no guns” trope is nonsense.
It's only because her companion was taken from her that she's that way. Were he still there, she'd not be behaving so Ruth-less-Lee.
@@LordGrotesk 😂
Makes me so happy to see this season of Dr. Who. This was the best episode yet.
My theory is that Ruth is a past incarnation of the Doctor, but all time lords can have their memory wiped or something connected to the drums as she is the timeless child. I think the lone cyber man is coming after her.
TLDR for some of you:
I just recently got to watch seasons 11 and 12, because reasons, and I realize pretty much everyone has had their say, but while there were some pretty good episodes, it really just felt like every thing was happening to the doctor, instead of her being involved in it or taking charge like the previous doctors did. It felt like that whole "I don't know who I am yet" thing that comes when they first regenerate, just stuck with her the whole time. She hardly knew any enemy she came across & seemed to barely know what to do. I'm not saying the previous doctors always figured it out right away, but they always took charge & 13 tries to take charge, but it almost seems like everyone else is the hero instead of her.
Loved this one with captain jack and the other doctor I want to hear more of that doctor and bring back the 1st TARDIS interior it's cool
But that wasn't the first TARDIS interior... It has some similar elements..
It looked more or less identical to it but loved it
similar but not identical at all.
So it an actual animatronic. Wow that's really neat.
no complaints at all. think they are in their groove. the psuedo doc was amazing.
I had a power cut mid episode. I screamed. The blimin judoon doesn't want me to watch Doctor Who.
ALSO CAPTAIN JACK! YESSS! But I do want torchwood back on bbc Iplayer.
I think the general consensus seems to be, I love this episode but I’m so confused as to how doctor Ruth fits into the timeline.
So glad to see Captain Jack Harkness back again. Really enjoyed seeing that.
Good to see the Judoon back as well.
As much as I hate this era, The Doctor really showed her heroism here. Can't think of a worse fate than being trapped in Gloucester.
Are we just going to ignore the lone cyberman development?
No, it was clearly stated many times in the episode, lmao
The Doctor is getting angsty. I love it 🥰
best part of the episode Jack being back.
second and third best parts of the episode, seeing Jack on screen again, and again.
Now, please I need more Jack :)
I first thought it was impressive and nostalgic that they brought back the Judoon. Little did I know who else would return
Pun intended:)
@jeck jeck
lol not even I just realised it
Quite a stretch and it is just a theory but it could be river song as we have seen her (regenerate?) Before and we also know that she steals the tardis from the doctor. (Sorry if I've missed something stupid I dont really know the lure behind river that well)
This and the woman who fell to earth are the only two Whittaker episodes I actually like
I mean excuse me??? That episode was just wow 😮 amazing
Never been so happy to hear someones voice!!!!
This was the best episode in years. This is what fans want. More mysteries, intrigue, story arcs, awesome returning characters, etc. Please BBC give us more of THIS! Not just dumb history lessons one-off episodes.
I don't mind Ruth being the Doctor, but only if she is in the future - because I can't take the lack of continuity. However, Jack was back and everyone loves jack so
Who’s Ruth?
Love isn't the word. We all absolutely BLOODY ADDDOOREEE Jack! His return was the best thing ever!
@@Lucien0012 Definitely. Him kissing Bradley was amazing
@@kieranbunn9684 Oh my God, I know right!
#GayPride !!!!!
I love Jack WAY TOO much and I'm NOT BOTHERED how much I love him!! xD
@@kieranbunn9684
New ship started!
wrong title
A fun, mind bending episode full of shocks, surprises and Judoon near the Moon!
OMG JACK US HERE I COULD TELL BY THE VOICE
that episode man..
Best episode so far. Brilliant. Loved it. All what Doctor Who is about.
Lmao Matt said “we were looking at monsters from series 2 so we chose the judoon”. The judoon first appeared in series 3...
My theory is Ruth is a time anomaly. A regeneration of the Doctor plucked from time to fight in the first time war. Ruth was the first regeneration of the new cycle after Matt smith's Dr and before capaldi's. The Doctor was plucked from the time stream inbetween regenerations. After the first time war had ended the timelords then placed a mindwiped Doctor back into her own timeline where she would regenerate into capaldi's Dr. This could explain why the process of that regen was so abrupt and the loss of memory in series 8.
Who cares about The Judoon
WHEN THE OTHER IS NOW CANON
The Other? Who's the Other?
Morbius doctors canon..
I'm against the idea of a doctor before Hartnell 😕
I am hoping that this turns out to be a parallel version and we get to see the Peter Cushing and Richard E Grant versions as well
@@cameronmonaghan6883 That's exactly what hoping for too.
@@M_no_more About the Other, it's a bit complicated. In the 7th Doctor era, script editor Andrew Cartmel had a plan to restore some of the mystery about the Doctor which repeated visits to Gallifrey had worn away. There are several references to the Doctor not being a normal Time Lord, having a great secret, and connecting him to Rassilon and Omega, the founding fathers of Gallifrey. That would have led to a story arc exploring that (known as the Cartmel masterplan) but the show was discontinued. The Virgin New Adventure novels tried to continue that story, and this is where we get into very dubious canonicity and
POSSIBLE MAJOR SPOILER TERRITORY.
I don't really know the precise details, but the novels state that there was a third founder, known as the Other, and that Time Lords do not reproduce in the normal way but instead use devices known as looms. There's a mention of the Other having a granddaughter called Susan, with the general implication is that the Doctor is a reincarnation of the Other (not the same person). That lines up suspiciously well with "the timeless child" and the two "Doctors" (one seemingly from the distant past) we have just seen. Also the Master specifically mentioned the founding fathers of Gallifrey in Spyfall part 2.
Congratulations to the whole team, you finally managed to put out another GREAT one! The best one so far, since Moffat and Co...
Its FUGITIVE BBC!!
@Doctor Who it was really cool to see Jack Barrowman " Back Again " as Captain Jack Harkness in that cameo tonite !!!
John barrowman
I think I know who the other Doctor is and why Jodie Whitaker's doctor doesn't remember her. Because she is and isn't the Doctor. In the very old series of Doctor Who in the Trial of a Time Lord, their was a character introduced that was said to be about this time in the Doctors timeline called the "VALEYARD". It was a version of the Doctor, but a different version. think of Ying and Yang, Black and White. 2 versions of one character, but completely different.
The Judoon have definite Vogon vibes.
This was actually a great episode imo. Definitely the best one since Capaldi.
That's not saying much though
Tsu 800 I liked Capaldi’s seasons but either way it’s an improvement.
@@drawde_064 Capaldi was great after he lightened up in season 3, just wish he had stayed instead of unleashing Whittaker on us
Finally a proper who episode......only taken a season and a bit...but this is what it should be like....
What about Spyfall or the Tesla episode?
They were ok..... 2nd part of spyfall let it down to rushed to finish, as for Tesla the villain looked like the one from runaway bride, plus had too much of the companions in and not enough Doctor.... This had it right with the companions adding to the doctor and not the other way round. Which it has seemed to be recently.
Judoon Law 101
1. Always use extreme force
2. The criminals do not have rights
3. Civilian casualties aren't our problem
4. Never talk out of a situation.....
BLAST YOUR WAY OUT!!!!!!!
You are now an official judoon
@@chatterboxintel7815 yes
Lmao.
To be fair - they aren't nice people. They're Police For Hire and can be "good" or "bad" depending on their current leader. Of which clearly she wasn't a nice person.
I screamed when I saw Jack
Same
Same me and my mum
Same
Same
Are you kidding?
WHO DIDN'T?!?! AAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
I did more than scream! I literally exploded the bloody windows with my voice! XD
such a good episode up until the last reveal, and because of that, it is not official that series’s 11 and 12 and any subsequent chibnall series’ are not canon, unless it’s an alternate universe doctor, it’s not canon
so the only option is:" such a good episode; let's wait and see what happen next."
I know what's going on-
Space time continuum distruption aka a paradox, causing past to become future and future to become past all in present time and Jack was sent back in time by the doctor
best episode so far
Ahhhh!!! What an episode - so many questions, but not enough answers! I can't wait to find out how this series arc continues...Well done Chibnall, you've really given us something to think about!
This was the best episode of Jodie's so far. Mainly loved the parts with Jack. But please relax all the dialogues. We spent half the episode in literally 3 locations and just watching characters talk.
Would you rather none of the characters speak in a TV show?
@@RobTFilms please read my comment again. Thank you.
This episode was extremely consuming.. and I love that. Last season was way to simplistic and slow. This is quick, confusing and this is Doctor Who 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Epic episode loved it welcome back Jack ✌🏻
THIS 👏IS 👏THE 👏CONTENT 👏THAT 👏I 👏SIGNED 👏UP 👏FOR!!!
Good job Chibs
Fantastic, loved this episode.
I enjoyed tonight's episode really good
Literally my favourite episode in a while
Captain jack: *returns*
Me: **confused screaming**
Finally...Jodie gets to shine in Dr Who as it should be
As much as I loved the episode, I really wanted to hear Jodie speaking judoon haha