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*SHOCKING* Jocko accused of MURDER by fellow Navy SEAL on live podcast
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 มิ.ย. 2024
- Clip from the Team House Podcast with shocking accusations that Jocko committed actual murder of allied source just a few hours ago.
#specialforces #greenberet
anyone else notice ,...
The entire US Special Operations Community has turned into "The View"
Exactly smh 🤦♂️
I won’t say the entire SO community
Just the seals part navy seal this navy seal that. They make a big deal so a lot of people join the Navy to get in the seals then they don’t get into the seals and get stuck on a ship. If you think about it, the Navy has no land force response team, other than the seals people coming into the Rangers or Delta force already have potentially years of land warfare experience, and thenget that tweet to perfect perfection
@@bobross5079 not the pjs
It’s gross
I’m not even military, I’m just a drywall guy living and working a regular blue collar job, but for some reason I know more about the Navy seals drama than an average Military person. These guys oughta make a reality show at this point, I would watch it.
Thank god I was just a basic Marine, I'm still bros with the guys I was in with. Talk constantly and help each other out as best we can.
@kegfreak3728, The everyday grunt in the Marine Corp and the Army does the majority of the heavy lifting on the battlefield. Fuxck all these SF guys touting their bravado and patting themselves on the back.
Semper Fi
@@user-tu3bs9xu4syou jus mad because you couldn’t do it 🤣🤣
Best thing you can do is avoid helping people out because they will take advantage of you
Thank you for your service brotha. And to a normal guy like me, Marines are bad ass. It's funny how there's a food chain with everything in life, it's just a matter of perspective.
The problem with suing is, you open yourself up to discovery. The problem with discovery is, basically anything and everything you've ever done, can be manipulated into something that sounds like you're the worst person on the planet. Which is why so many civil suits get dropped or settled before they get to court.
Thank you everyone thinks it easy. Push button sue. Even if you have great case. Hundreds of wasted. Boring hours and if the guy isn’t worth much. You don’t get crap
You forgot state evidence rules and motions in limine that prevent the introduction of evidence at trial.
Cases (97% on average) also settle because it’s expensive. And if Jocko sues, he’s likely to reach a settlement
I doubt the military will allow evidence in their covert ops, at best it will have to be moved to a military court, which I doubt will happen
I'm pretty sure that a false accusation of first degree murder is enough for a defamation lawsuit. This one doesn't pass the sniff test, man.
What if it is true. What if what he did was facilitate the situations. I’m more interested in this topic. If it is true people need to be held accountable.
I'm sure these are true accusations.. "American Sniper" loser was already proven to be a liar and a piece of shit... Jocko was in charge of him....
If Jocko doesn't than we have the answer and truth
Not if it ain’t false
Not taking this guy to court is damning evidence
SEALS eating their own, big surprise. Need to go back to the quiet professional days pre-internet. All these guys talking and our enemies are listening. Not smart.
Brandon Webb, a SEAL/Sniper was widely known for 🗣 bad mouth, berate SpecWar & SOF veterans for clout, 🤩 ...
if you get a guy who lies about stuff publicly and makes millions off of it, you have to educate the public that this dude is a scum bag
Put a microphone or pen in front of the most narcissistic and egotistical group of people probably on earth, and shits gonna go down regardless. Whether the Internet exists or not.
Y’all turn around and laugh at black kids for telling on each other an them self’s white military guys seem to do it for to
Sweep war crimes under the rug so the sheeple feel safe 🤡
I’m sorry, but if a task force commander of two Seal platoons shot an allied source in the face, he would have been relieved of command, moved somewhere else, or shitcanned. If we shot someone in Iraq in 04-10 we had to do shooter statements even if it was justified. No way his entire team and the CIA just shrugged their shoulders and carried on. The Demming guy is a clown. He clearly has a hard-on for Jocko, and is repeating shit talk he’s heard.
Same. Those of us who’ve done this shit know how stupid that story sounds. I don’t know the story, but I know this story is BS.
"just Jocko being Jocko guys" lmao. this story is uber retarded and clearly not true
You are delusional. Over 90% of military crimes and misbehavior gets swept under the rug. Everyone that served knows this
Watch the whole podcast. You guys are missing so much context
@@ronnymesias7788 no we’re not.
This is one of those few times when I feel like the word "SHOCKING" actually belongs in a youtube title lmao. Thank you for being so honest and articulate when it comes to these issues. Your perspective is super valuable for us younger guys who don't have your experience
lol ya I never use clickbait titles with words like shocking, but I literally was shocked when I saw this so it felt appropriate.
Hell me to was like what you waiting all this time and now you say something dumb ass
Why all the sudden years later he's a murderer? Why not bring it up right away? Seems like bullshit
Also, you witnessed a murder and didn’t report it for two decades. Makes you basically an accomplice.
It definitely happens , remember that 82nd guy who got beheaded by the river a few years ago? @@ValhallaVFT
Dude says in another podcast "not sure if it was antihero podcast maybe or green beret chronicles?." That he did file internal complaints that went nowhere on some of the incidents he aledges. Dude seems to have it out for Jocko and Kyle. The drama.
@@cw6656he probably feels like their high-speed hero operating style was getting people killed
@ValhallaVFT that doesn't make you an accomplice. Unless he hid evidence in some sort of way. Just simply witnessing it and not reporting the crime isn't the same.
The Seals have really lost a lot of luster with all these Mucky-Mucks coming out of the woodwork and opening their traps.
Thanks for talking about this
"Cool man! Got'em"
😂😂😂😂
Pretty much sums it up for me. The idea that Jocko would intentionally do something so incompetent "to make a name for himself" makes me think that Deming isn't right in the head. Who TF would believe a story like that.
Sounds bs. 1 ) not up to jocko mission is day or nite. It is not his call. So bs from start. Then. Shoots the good guy. Ti show off. wtf. Sounds goofy
This Eric Deming clown is also the guy who said that a predator drone captured Marcus Luttrell running away from his team on June 28th...
This is insane, does this guy actually think this is true?
Kinda funny actually how ridiculous these claims are...
Leadership will be Court Marshaled if they sent in all those Rangers, Green Berets, Team 6 guys, PJ's looking for Marcus when they already knew his location (since, you know, they got Marcus on Predator feed...hahaha this actually pretty laughable and I am kind of glad how he made these claims so outrageous that people who were on the fence now think this dude is a lunatic...
He is saying there is predator feed of Marcus' escape on foot, and the Predator drone just decided to keep that information to themself? and let all the SF and SOF operators comb the mountains (for days) looking for Marcus and the downed SEALS.
Wow, I think he might be having an accident pretty soon...
You should have him on your show and question him. I will say he get's pretty animated about Jocko and Tim S.
So he says this is Jockos first time out. Alleges Jocko straight murders an Intel source just because. After that Jocko is given command of Bruiser?? IDK about this.
Not only that but his first few sentences are ridiculous. They finally convinced Jocko to go out? My guy, it’s not a fucking choice if you go or not 😂
@@Twizzzums "Sorry Chief, I'm kinda wore out, I'm gonna hang back on this one and get some sleep." LOL I guess he thinks that is how it works??
While i have no idea how good or bad a leader Jocko was as a Seal commander, NSW does like to promote guys they have under thumb and can control completely.
@@BlyGuy They wouldn't give command of such a high profile Task Force to someone who murders intel sources for fun when he is bored. I'm sure there are many others they have something a little less insane on they could appoint to leadership roles if that is what they were doing.
I don’t support either side but this and other things like it is like children fighting online. Stupid for “quiet professionals” who are meant to be adult men.
Not detracting from this guy, I’m sure he has a good reason (fallen marines) but have a feeling a lot of these things are done solely to get publicity and to make money somehow. Represents the SOF profession in a bad light overall no matter what unit you’re in or where.
It seems it’s not a quiet one anymore…
But Demming still has yet to even attempt to capitalize on this in any way, including developing a following anywhere online. Which makes it all even more confusing and bizarre 😂 if he’s doing it for attention, he’s kinda bad at it. If he’s planning on releasing a book or getting a book deal, he’s bad at that too, because he’s telling the whole “story” now and leaving nothing for the book.
He could just be disgruntled and bought into rumors and stories he heard that aren’t true or are partially true at best. Or he could be telling the truth. None of us can really know, but guess and take a side, or guess and attempt not to take a side.
I for one will need corroboration in order to believe this murder story. It’s just too wild to believe without actual evidence or proof at all. As for Jocko being a loon and reckless at that time, I have no idea but that doesn’t sound as hard to believe. That sounds totally plausible, and reasonable to beleive happened. I think Jocko embellishes and puffs himself up to create an image and narrative to his life and persona that he can heavuly market and profit from. I think he’s noth8ng more than a grifter that offers nothing in return for all the money people throw at him. I’ve read part of his book and couldn’t finish because it just annoyed me too much. But im not into any of that self help, bootstrapping porn nonsense so it’s prob more about that than his book actually sucking more than others in the genre.
I don’t know why I included those last bits, I just kept going and figured, why erase it? 🤷♂
I hope the Senior Chief has a great legal team; I'm pretty confident Jocko does. Also I'll bet Jocko has enough bank to cash the checks the Senior Chief's ass can't.
If it's true, Jocko wont sue.
@@Mr._Infamous During discovery, Jocko could have to give a sworn deposition.
No way Jocko would open up this can of worms. This revelation was intentional. Basically, it's a warning sign to whoever threatened the Senior Chief.
To what end? Jockos lawyers will get paid either by the defendant or by jocko
Sue for SOF missions? Are you this ignorant, none of these missions are documented.
The main problem I have with Deming’s claims is that by his own admission he wasn’t there to witness any of it. Everything he claims he says “I heard from so and so” “the word going around was”, etc
He hasn’t provided any receipts to back up these things he learned second hand either.
It’s also the fact that he made that claim about 36 marines KIA that turned out to be impossible for it to even be true
I would also say even with his claim about Jocko shooting a source is true, a event that he didn’t witness and he provided zero evidence to back up, saying Jocko shot the guy because he was feeling insecure and pressured into it is pure speculation on his part
Point is this guy just says things that he either heard 2nd hand or even worse are pure speculation but he says them as if they’re facts and provides nothing to back it up
I’m prior service and if you are you know better. When you’re in the Military in the same company or battalion footprint you hear things and people talk. Most times there aren’t receipts
Deming has enough solid proof and evidence on Jocko, Symanski and Slabinski that there should be no question about what he's saying. You guys are cherrypicking the message he's sending. The three guys I named up top - were TERRIBLE LEADERS!!! That's the crux of what Deming is talking about.
@@harrythomasjr8521 totally understand, bro. I’m prior service as well (0311). You’re absolutely right, word gets around, guys know things that weren’t officially stated or acknowledged but everybody knows and it’s sorta just kept hush hush
It is possible that this is one of those things where everybody knows but nobody chose to talk about it. Im not saying Deming is 100% full of shit
I do think it says something that many guys both who served under Jocko, or were his peers, or even high ranking officers above him who were in Ramadi associate with him and speak highly of him
Deming is accusing him of heinous things. Cowardice, murder, corruption, war crimes, incompetence, negligence, like some really bad shit. If he was as bad as Deming is saying I don’t think this many respected guys would associate with him and speak so highly regardless of his clout
I’ll put it this way: im not saying to a certainty Deming is full of it. I wasn’t there, and I know shit happens and gets swept under the rug. Various factors after listening to the guy are making me skeptical
Two of the Marines that were there, one of which was the XO, went on Green Beret Chronicles and backed Dennings story up.
@@t.mitchellb2766 he backed up vague claims that some things may have happened, but did not provide anything convincing that corroborated the story, or evidence of attribution of an actual crime by any individual. Yes… it’s that vague.
If you can make a solid judgement call on anything Demming has said, then I have a good fortune cookie message for you to base your future on: something good or bad may or may not happen to you in the near or distant future.
Thank you for taking the time to break this down for us regular civilians. I think we are all getting sick of the rando commandos talking to us like we are children hearing made up war stories. That time is long gone and we want truth and honesty more than anything.
Rando commando is a perfect moniker.
i’ve heard from other seals, specifically on the shawn ryan show, talk about how people in the seal community can be extremely jealous and envious when you’re doing better than them (honestly that’s just people in general)
i feel like this is a classic example of that
Dude it's horrible.
Egos are the root to evil in the military culture! It’s sad but this is what humans do to each other. It happens on every facet of life.
Dude you beat me to it. It’s very obvious this is a jealous clown.
Shawn Ryan - once a company man, always a company man. Just understand that when watching his podcast.
@@americanoverlander1116??? He has one of the best podcast out what are you talking about.
And that was the last time they asked Jocko to come on a mission again. 😂
That guy has a number of videos where he shits on every Navy SEAL he can.
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@@Mr._Infamoushe’s obviously jealous of Jocko because he’s an alpha male who takes out hajis civilian and enemy alike. alpha males don’t distinguish that difference. that guy is a beta male who is jealous of his supplements books and courses
Good point, but some people’s desire for “fame” is odd.
Yea he is a nobody and didn’t do shit in the military and now he just trying to make money online and try to hurt the guys who are big on the internet. It’s jealousy and buddy has a big lawsuit. But day raids was a thing were he is accusing him of the mess and I was actually brought in boots on the ground. The guys a coward. And I look forward to seeing him at some event to call him out on video in person on his lies
The Marines that where there back this guy Dennings story up one hundred percent. And one of those said Marines was the XO. It's on Green Beret Chronicles.
Eric Deming has specifically criticized Jocko for sending his guys out in day time instead of night since, as he says 'we own the night' or in other words they have the advantage. So I dont get where this dude thinks Deming is implying Jocko is a coward for going out at night (he implies Jocko is a coward for not putting himself at risk like he put his guys). Deming is clear in his interviews that Jocko was putting his guys at risk by sending them out in the day.
As soon as I saw this error from this dude - trying to build up his low following of 22k compared to the many other SO guys on youtube, which is a dime a dozen now - I tuned out. If you get a simple detail wrong, I cant expect better later.
It’s like he didn’t watch the whole Team House podcast. Plus he keeps saying I don’t want to Monday morning quarterback “ BUT “and then goes about doing the very thing he said he wouldn’t do. He even admits in the end to rushing to get his podcast out. Dude do your homework first before you open your mouth about things you don’t know about. And please WATCH THE WHOLE PODCAST before you try and break it down. Pulling one segment out of context with the whole is very unprofessional. If you really want to be taken seriously you need to take your time to cross all your “t’s and dot your i’s.
I just found you. You discuss interesting topics. I look forward to watching more. And thank you for serving our country. Cheers.
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Hey brother, welcome 🙏
Thank you for not using someone else’s misfortune to your own benefit. I was not in so calm, but a marine officer for 15 years. I am sick and by what’s going on today with all of these SEALS attacking each other.
Nate, I've never seen you wince so much in a video brother lol
😂
Sir I just wanted to say you are a handsome hunk of bearded man pie.
For such a serious claim to be made on a podcast is wild and very unprofessional.
Ya no shit, who does this type of thing? Wild.
@@ValhallaVFTWhat's happening to the SOF Community?! We used to be Quiet Professionals... SMH
@@sigspearthumb3249it's not SOF community. It's the Navy Seal's community.
@@vsupreme9386 there’s been some dumb shit from others recently, but the whole viciously attacking each other I agree is very much a SEAL issue rather than SOF.
@@ValhallaVFT hey quick question I've wondered: how did the army SOF (Rangers/SF/CAG) feel about the John Chapman situation? The Navy and AF basically went to war over it but I've never heard how the army guys felt about it.
I’m raising the bullshit flag without watching anything further than the guys statement. Meeting unknown friendly forces in a hot area is one of the most dangerous linkups that can happen. We never met an unknown source without strict, pre-planed bonafides steps which includes many things. How the source is carrying a long gun, if he has one, was always part of the process of checks. IF Jacko saw a guy who could’ve been their source and smoked him as soon as the dust cleared without going through the process, I don’t think anyone on his team would accept that level of incompetence no matter who he was. Second, I’ve never met a source who was just standing anywhere near our insertion location specifically for the reason that insertion is one of the most chaotic and dangerous periods of the mission. We always moved to a different area to do link up instead of hanging around the spot a fucking helicopter just landed any longer than necessary. Unless we inserted on target moving directly into the hit, we always painfully waited patiently until everything cleared (SLLS). No chopper noise, no dust and you get the “feel” of the AO before moving. Also, the FLIR of the insertion platform didn’t pick up some guy just standing on the LZ with an AK?? There’s just too many eyebrow raisers in that claim to believe it. If it’s true and the team leader compromised and failed the mission immediately upon hitting the ground by smoking a high level asset, a friendly force without whom you couldn’t reach your target and achieve the objective, don’t you think, especially at that level of ops, SOMEBODY would’ve heard about it? I’ve never heard of any team putting up with anything like that even if it’s someone you love and have been fighting or training with for a long time. These men are like board women who have nothing to do other than feed that addiction to negativity.
Big ups.
board women? im unfamiliar with that term. please enlighten us
I'm not military and when I hear stuff like this I think.... doesn't there have to be a report after the fact? I mean don't the people who send you in ask questions like: "hey, the contact was shot in the face. How'd that happen?" If this happened wouldn't it have been known a long time ago and dealt with then? As a civilian leader of a business, if I send an employee to do something important and it gets fucked up, I'm going to find out why and deal with it.
@@gunsup0331 That's all you got? Pointing out an auto correct error? Go back under your bridge.
@@dougdupont6134 That's my point. I don't care who you are. You ain't walking away from shooting a friendly asset, especially if it's an agency guy. But even a friendly Afghan asset. That asset has a source that works him. If he's running SF teams to a target than he's trusted and experienced. You can't just shoot him, do high fives all around, go back to the team room and start planning the next mission. There's just too many obvious unanswered questions.
Thank God our WW2 vets weren’t so petty. Are they warriors, sure, but still evidence of the country’s decline.
So the source is killed by the team leader, he is their to help and no fall out, 20 year USAF TACP, I agree no way in hell. However, you know some NCIS agent is foaming at the mouth to look at this.
Ya brother, every actual sof dude I know who’s done this type of thing is gona say this story makes no fucking sense at all.
Exactly! We saw how NCIS behaved with the Eddie Gallagher accusations, and just how far the ever changing stories of just a couple disgruntled guys spun up, but to allegedly kill at random, on multiple occasions? That’s not going to happen, not without a multitude of investigations, and not every single fiber of evidence would be wiped clean, every time… IF, there were any evidence of Jocko being such a complete psychopath, I’m pretty sure 4 star Admiral McRaven, General MacFarand, and so many other top brass would never even entertain the idea of sitting at a table and talking with Jocko about ANYTHING, YET THEY DID, and they have all expressed great admiration and respect for Jocko and task force bruiser.
@@ValhallaVFTit makes zero sense. There are quite a few guys from TUB that are out and in the public domain. From what I can see they all back Jocko. I’m not sure what Eric was thinking but he’s gonna be buried in defamation suits soon. The sad thing is I don’t think Eric is a bad guy I think he may be suffering from an underlying mental illness.
@@Jc87134 I'm starting to think the same thing about Deming's mental well being. On his first long interview on GBC's channel, he not only claimed that the other public TU Bruiser guys who are being paid off by Jocko to support his story, but then he actually refers to the "strange deaths" of various TU Bruiser SEALs and literally implies that they were assassinated to prevent bad info about Jocko leaking. I'm not kidding, if you watch his first interview titled "From One Shot to 36 Marine KIA", minutes 29-32, he actually says those things.
@@ValhallaVFT please reach out to Bob Holland. Not sure if he will go on your podcast but he was point on that op.
Read code over country jocko was mentioned several times this joker has always been a problem
He's a Glory Hound...just look at how he "acts" - screams "LOOK AT ME".
@@taharqa332He’s fucking jealous man.
@@taharqa332well rather he whispers it into a camera in black and white and hard shadows
Thanks for your clarity. Sure useful given the crap going around.
Excellent video!
This is what’s so crazy to me. If these allegations were true, people would be coming out of the woodwork to tell their side of the story. I personally don’t believe it. But, why isn’t Jocko suing the shit out of this guy?!
Why give that bs even more publicity?
people did? they made a second episode with 2 or 3 people talking about their experience with task force bruiser and the jocko guy.
@@cablecablecableit was two guys who were marines and also weren’t there when it happened. One of said marines has already been outed as a POS loser by other marines.
I seen this dude on multiple occasions he's going after a bunch of seals ..
Only after the war criminals, they aren’t a bunch, just a few bad apples. This has been said since 2005. Many seals have been silenced
@@Mr._Infamous not really. It could say several different things if you try hard enough to see it. But that’s true of almost any statement ever made. It could “tell you” that there are a lot of bad seals. Or it could “tell you” he is a phony just looking for attention. It just depends on what bias you already have on the matter and which narrative vein you are riding in.
Youve gotta rockin channel here, Ive come to appreciate youre level-headed, but oft times open-ended perspective(s) on many a topic...
Its refreshing to see an individual not being concrete lock'd into any particular way of thinking, viewing matters through many a differing window of observation, to better attain a more or less complete overview, oft dependent upon the flow of facts, or available information at hand. Always vigilant as to exposing &/or unraveling propagandist mis/dis info streams. (Good luck, as that often consists of 80%+ of what we must sift through to attain any small percentage of truth..;)
Seeing that from birth, most all humans are thoroughly conditioned in myriad ways & tend to maintain a bias of sorts, even moreso if an individual objects to such a challenge. No matter the subject, being either lightly perused, heavily investigated, or experienced 1st hand....
People in general, be them 100% civ oriented, or a combat arms veteran. Much like most insect species, we tend to highly specialize in one activity of professional focus/MOS, perhaps two @ the very most. So no matter the vast amount of personal experience, or information analysed, we still yet see but a >> TINY SLIVER
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What I’ve thought was amazing is people really tried painting Jocko out as this like…fucking…Navy SEAL or something…I have my doubts as well, but considering Jockos resume the idea of him calling out an enemy target and saying “he’s mine” just doesn’t shock me. Does that make sense?
No. Not one bit. Are you saying this supposed source he allegedly murdered was an “enemy target”? And do you think what navy seals do is behave like egotistical loons with blood lust and hair triggers? The accusations aren’t that he was a navy seal and that’s just what seals do. That’s his defense of the accusations, which are of him being reckless af, and now apparently murderous. Those are not sops for seals, as far as I know.
@@jonosterman2878 honestly man? I have 0 clue. I just have my doubts Jocko just murdered innocent people. I’m not gonna write a novel about why I think and feel this. However, yes. SEALs are definitely not a special operations branch of the Peace Corps, that’s for sure. I’m…honestly very certain many of them loved killing bad guys and anxiously awaited their time to shine on the battlefield.
Jay’s interview with the Marines who encountered Task Unit Bruiser was pretty revealing of Jocko’s supposed reckless and unprofessional conduct, but as far as I’m aware, Deming has NEVER told this story publicly before. How do you not lead with this if you have access to that information? How new is this development and what is the source?
You’re totally right though, this is horrible optics for the SOF community and the military in general. This is supposed to be one of the most professional groups of people on the planet and we have guys arguing like middle schoolers and throwing around accusations like this on podcasts.
Right
I hate to see fellow Marines to get dragged into this drama but as a former enlisted guy I gotta say one of the dudes who they brought on had a very limited view on a top like the SEAL commander's role in the AO. He was a machine gun team leader NCO at the government center. Those guys went through a ton but I don't think a Cpl running a machine gun team in the most kinetic part of the city was focused on what the SEAL commander was doing in a massive AO. just my opinion.
@@SKKT1992 There were two Marines on the podcast who both corroborated Deming's claims.
Where can I find this interview?
Thank you for getting to the point and not dragging it out for 10 minutes talking about yourself first.
He says specifically, and I quote “Excuse me. Drinking my Truly.”
Maybe dude is mad because Jocko is living the life dude wanted. He’s mad at his own shortcomings and going after a big and respected name in the industry. Damn shame.
Nah lol
Yeah, he’s butt hurt over ‘CQD’ not being his cash cow.
Well… Seals throw frags on HR missions killing the H. Seals move down the hill and let Chapman push the fight alone up the hill. Seals get kicked out of AO’s. … Whoopsie Whoopsie!
Nate would love to have you on to talk about your service! It’s Bud , we linked up through your father 🇺🇸
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As a Big Fan of Jocko and Echelon Front as well as Mike Glover and Fieldcraft Survival, this is great news. I never believed that this was something Jocko or Mike would do, especially because I know 3 People who have taken rifle classes from Mike directly. I am hopeful that Mike will be back to his TH-cam Channel and back to making worthwhile content. Thanks for posting this. I appreciate you posting this information and have started following your channel. Good Content and keep it up.
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Success has enemies.
I'm glad I was just a Gravy Seal and a Bean Beret...
Thought you were a Marineade
that you for your servings
Bean beret 😂😂😂😂😂
The truth is the hardest to believe, because it doesn’t make sense like fiction, the strangest things are the truth.
Not in the Community, but really starting to disbelieve Mr. Deming. I wasn't there, and neither was he. Mike drop.
Again, as a dude who’s done these exact missions a ton, the story makes literally 0 sense. Unless he’s not explaining it well it sounds like total BS to me.
Deming is pretty damn convincing to me...he has historical facts, names, dates - situations...he's more credible than Jocko - that's for damn sure.
Jockos whole thing is accountability, leadership, and not eating the donut, the other guy hasn't done anything except talk shit
@@taharqa332 you’re telling me you can watch this clip and think this is convincing? If so I can tell you’re utterly clueless to what a combat operation actually looks like.
@@taharqa332any asshole who knows how to use a search engine can create an equally convincing story of the earth being flat... Short of flying them around that bitch in a hot air balloon you'll never convince some people otherwise. In spite of hundreds of years of evidence checked and verified to the contrary, you could even show em a video and pictures and then parade an army of people in front of them who have experienced a much different version of events, and they will still believe what they want to believe, because it suits them.
I would say go figure but even if the math doesn't math right they'll still deny it.
People who are telling the truth generally have a much harder time recounting accurate facts... Prepared and rehearsed statements are a lot easier to spot once you've been lied to on a personal level and had everyone believe the lie because it suits them.
Most people are happy to go on living thinking that Whitman, Price, and Haddad won a nice vacation, and that the butcher of Bakersfield is the boogie man not the guy who refused an illegal order. As long as it doesn't affect they're quality of life. Welcome to 2024.
Hey man, as someone who highly respects and looks up to Jocko, thank you so much for giving your input. I respect you for doing this.
@@keres993 i disagree, people can lie about others and people can be fake but it takes courage to trust. Just because it can go wrong doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t trust or have role models.
@@Mr._Infamous same, I maintain my support for Jocko until tangible evidence is presented before me. The current allegations lack coherence and fail to resonate with reason. It is gratifying to witness an individual addressing this matter with a commitment to genuine veracity.
Maybe Jocko will read this, lover boy.
@@stinger22 Don’t project too hard. You might inspire a new field of study: Narcissistic Mythology.
not military, but I thought this was a genuinely beautiful podcast. Reason, common sense, decency, restraint. THANK YOU.
If it is not in the JAG POT... It's Scuttle rubble!
The guy accusing Jocko and Slab has no personal YT channel or social media at all he says.
His reason for doing this now is because no others have stepped up and told the truth.
Jocko is not as high speed as he puts on.
Mmhmm. Sure dude. I’m sure it’s all altruism.
He has been really trash talking Jocko, Marcus Luttrell and Rob O’Neill on the anti hero podcast. I have no idea if this guy is reputable or not.
Rob Oneil in my view is ⬇️ ... the recent Texas hotel security fight showed RO in a poor light. He's had DWI arrests & drinking incidents.
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@@DavidLLambertmobile also the fact that it’s basically an open secret that he’s lying about being the one that shot bin Laden, and that nobody involved can call him out on it because it’s against the unwritten rules of the Navy Seals to do that. Dude’s an absolute lowlife and an uncontrollable alcoholic.
All three of those guys you mentioned have been proven to be liars. Luttrell was a coward who profited off his failure, and O'Neill lied about shooting Bin Ladin for the money and fame. Jocko did a terrible job responding to allegations as he just deflected and used the "crimes can't happen because they are illegal" argument.
More drama than a highschool softball team in the community. What the fuck is up with that place
I may have not gotten along with somebody but I would never throw shit and talk crap about them to a bunch of randos on the street.
This is the inevitable result of monetizing a SOF career and and publishing everything in the hopes of further monetizing it
Why would a source burn their cover like that too?? LMFAO
This actually isn't a new , hes made this accusation a while ago, Jocko hasn't sued yet which tells me thus could veey well be true
Or that he was clever enough to understand the Striesand effect. You only sue if it’s become a huge news story, not before. Doing it before would cause it to blow up anyway.
Suing is headache. Even a great case. Is time waster. It sucks
Your perspective is very balanced and much appreciated. The accuser is absolutely nuts.
He had a long career in the Navy Seals.
But he's not the only accuser though
What do you know about Deming?
You are a prime example of why you shouldn't hero worship.
Thank you for shedding some light on this... I'm a civi so I only know what hear from this community. I sincerely appreciate your measured response. It didn't sound even plausible that this action(s) had happened but the more I hear from rational/reasonable SOFs the more I am assured that most all of you are the best trained in tactics of war fighting but also how to engage the enemy legally, morally and lethally when necessary.
You know we're in trouble when our navy seals are fighting each other.
This has been the norm since 2005. It just wasn't on the internet for millions to see. Seals are inevitably jealous. When so many macho alpha men who are constantly trying to 1 up everything the other do you end up with drama.
So they should support war crimes and support the murder of seal team members so the sheeple feel better? Gtfoh
Don’t care about the crimes just the people talking about them 🤦♂️
@@justinaustin3063there are plenty of lateral units that do not have this issue
Seals are overrated frat bros so they're behavior is expected.
Why do you people just fall head over heals for ex-navy seals or other special operators?
All this stuff is factually proveable.
Records are kept of when Jocko was in charge, when patrols took place and who went out.
The Community speaks to each other and they tend to know the truth.
What has Jocko said about this "lie"????
I would immediately defend myself and my fellow Battle Buddies would back me up.
If your battle buddies say nothing than you most likely don't look so good.
You sound jealous.
And then people would be talking about this for the next ten years when if you ignored it it would have gone away in a month or so because the American public has the attention span of a goldfish.
TBH, we only see this level of bickering and infighting in the SEAL community. The hubris, hollywoodism, and self centered arrogance within that asset is embarrassing and erodes trust and credibility with American people when they gossip like schoolgirls in public purview.
For individuals grappling with the aftermath of trauma, lying can become a coping mechanism. It serves as a shield, protecting them from the perceived threat of judgment or further harm
Dude was on anti hero podcast with the CAG dude and the cop. Interesting stuff. Also they had a few other Marines that corroborated Eric’s story. It’s crazy for sure and it hurts to see fellow SOF guys go after each other. But what hurts more is thinking about those Marines parents hearing this. May the Lord bless them and us. We need Jesus
Those marines corroborated the claims the Jocko murdered an allied source? You sure?
@@ValhallaVFThey bro. Should have been more clear and specific in my post. No. About smoking the source. They corroborated the claims that Chris Kyle and other seals were straight smoking dudes and the Marines caught the blowback big time.
Seems from the intro that the larger issue is the fact that allegations have been made & whether or not they have proof to back 'em up. No one should care that it reflects SEALs eating their own. IF true, the allegations should always come forward & be welcomed...IF true.
I 100% agree, but this story doesn’t ring like there’s much possible truth to it. The way he stutters and fidgets his way through the story does also not help his case.
Yep. Gets all red in the face and stutters a lot
@@roberthubbard5008dude is an old man
Sad day for the community, I hope the teams are okay. Get after it. They should square this all away.
There are so many inconsistencies in Deming’s stories. It seems like he is taking unrelated facts and finding ways to combine them to make them fit his narrative.
First time I’ve watched his stuff, and as a dude who’s done the job, it’s screamed red flags all over the place immediately.
Where are the inconsistencies? Is it the part where Symanski and Jocko killed the CQD course or where Slab ran from the fight?
For starters his Red Wings allegations particularly about guys from Turbine 33 being alive after the shootdown or Axe being alive for 7 days are directly contradicted by guys who were there, namely the senior TF -47 pilot, the 3rd Group 18D who was the first medic to treat Marcus, and a -64 pilot who was flying w/ the QRF package.
CQD got canked at Dam Neck several years before the rest of NSW followed suit. Szymanski was not at Dam Neck when that happened and Jocko was never at the Command.
@@ValhallaVFTSame. Not the first time this guy has talked this bs.
Should be handled in house by the United States Navy.
This is actually probably the realest comment. If these allegations are true, military should be investigating it.
NCIS? Read Rogue Warrior by Cdr Richard NMI Marcinko ret. Or First SEAL by Roy Bheim.
@@Mr._Infamous you are correct 👍.
This is what happens when SOF and NSW have nothing to do.. No war to fight, so they fight eachother. It's pathetic.
I'm not surprised in slightest a story like this came out about Joko or any navy seal.
Green boots make mistakes, no matter what branch of service.
Not taking any sides but a big claim like that needs receipts
I've noticed that Navy seals that are not as successful as people like Jocko or other Navy seals that have been able to make a lot of money after getting out always come out with stories against the team guys that are actually becoming successful after their military career. It's almost like they're a bunch of women that are jealous and bitter and haven't moved on.
Brother I subscribed because I have watched multiple videos and I as a 11b airborne vet I can respect and read between the lines in your content. I see your a a great brother and I am with you on your journey. Love bro
It gets extra spicy when one of the USMC NCOs under the Marine Officer who wrote the open letter says in a TH-cam VLOG that that officer was… untrustworthy at best
It’s “My recollection of events in Ramadi in 2006.” By the channel Daniel Blackwell, btw
@@Newbobdole That video was made BEFORE the newest podcast where two Marines came on to back Deming. He made a second video that I heard was different.
@@yashjoseph3544 Oh! Thank you, This story has all the twist and turns of the Nürburgring lol
@@Newbobdolethe trials ?? 🤔….. 🤣🤣
@@htp496 Close, Nuremberg was the trial location, Nürburgring is a famous racing track in the German mountains
All these guys saying "there would of been fallouts " are full of sh#t. This stuff happened and you all shut your mouths. Maybe you talked about it amongst your friends, but you all know if you said shit you were gone. So you said nothing. You protected your career and it is what it is. You were young, wanted to be there, worked hard for it. Just dont try bs now as a older guy, with a bit more morals and standards to you, looking back and knowing its wrong.... mistaking who you are today, with who you were then and say you wouldnt stand for it. Because back then, you did. You said nothing. You let this stuff fly #facts #iykyk
Oh, look. More seal on seal drama. Must be a Wednesday.
Lmao whaaat? (I haven't even watched the video yet)
I assume Deming is telling more wild stories
You should watch other videos where Deming accuses Jocko of war crimes. He also accuses Chris Kyle and basically all of task unit bruiser. Also Jocko made a podcast talking about some of the claims and basically said Deming is a complete liar. Just in case you didn’t know.
I hadn’t watched them yet, I’d heard here and there, so this response was my unbiased perspective from just that clip. Which sounds like I’m probably pretty spot on from what everyone is saying in the comments.
@@ValhallaVFT The clip you watched is pretty typical of Eric Deming in the last month or so. He also said some stuff on a podcast with Green Beret Chronicles.
@@user-ec8ns2lb1k I’ve seen a few of his clips about how jocko got people killed and enabled Kyle to kill civilians, but accusing of him of actual murder on a podcast? Wild, and stupid from a legal standpoint
@@ValhallaVFT 👍
is he the first person without a book deal, podcast or supplements to talk about chris kyle and his unsavory character?
no….hero worship is brain death
extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof
so much for the quiet profesional they cant wait to trash each other then write a book or start a podcast.
This guy has been running his mouth for a while now.. I hope jocko sues the shit out of him. Does jocko seem like a guy that would just murder someone for no reason?? Maybe im just biased because im a huge jocko supporter... he has a great message for adults and the youth.
you’re wrapped up in the cult of personality dude. you don’t know the guy.
how many actors (which is what jocko is) turn out to be completely different than what we all saw.
people thought Rock Hudson was a stud mowing down girls but turns out he’s gay
Probably not spinning up lawyers because to prove defamation of a public figure, you have to prove malice, so you have to prove the guy knew what he was saying was false (which is almost impossible to do) and you have to prove damages. So you have to prove that you had some kind of major tangible impact from it.
@@cablecablecable That is not a good analogy with Rock Hudson because who honestly cares about that. A better analogy would be with people like Bill Cosby.
The thing about Deming is that he still don't have a social media presence, don't have his own podcast, and don't have a book deal. I think he really believe in what he's saying
@ch-yq5yn Cognitive Dissonance: One experience discomfort (dissonance) when presented with information that contradicts their positive beliefs. To reduce this discomfort, they may reject or question the source of the negative information.
@@Mrwhomeyou Can the same not be said of you assuming Deming to be truthful based on the fact he doesn't have a podcast or book deal??
@@Mrwhomeyou This is all he said, she said. None of us were there to see with our own eyes and hear with our own ears what went down. I find it very hard to believe Jocko just murders an intel source on his first OP and then was given command of Bruiser. Just does not add up. If Jocko did this people saw it. If they saw it they said something. If they said something people knew. If people knew Command knew. If Command knew would they hand Command of one of the most high profile Task Forces in decades to a guy who cannot be trusted to not just murder intel sources for target practice?? Just not buying it. Not saying it didn't happen, but this story sounds like a soup sandwich.
@@stephenhood2948 LOL like this is only the 1st or 2nd time NSW tried to cover up something shady
@@stephenhood2948 he already had command of task force bruiser when this happened that’s what demmings said.
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I watched the whole interview and what you’ve included here is just tip of the iceberg of the accusations. I think everyone should watch it, whether it true or not. Regardless of how this goes down, it’s going to be messy.
When a SEAL makes an accusation that is later backed up by marines that were also in the area at the same time, I tend to believe them
Backed up meaning they didn't see anything just heard second hand stories?
Have you ever met a marine? Do you think they are all honorable and truthful human beings? Pro tip: they aren’t. Some are. But probably an equal number will lie to your face and screw your wife behind your back so the idea that two marines back him up doesn’t mean squat. Especially since one of said marines has been outed as a douche bag by one of the marines he served with.
What if it is true? What if he did shoot this guy as Deming claims. What if Jocko allowed and covered up others who killed non-combatants? I have a hard time believing Deming would risk accusing someone like Jocko of murder without the ability to prove it. Should be interesting moving forward.
The suspect thing about the dead civilian claim is the aftereffect, which is described as a full on insurgent offensive green lite by the local population due to this. One or even a few dead civilians was a drop in the bucket in that time period, all while AQI was going hog wild in Ramadi.
Just watched the full episode. Right after that clip he said “naw I’m just screwin around”
You’ll know how valid it is by the amount of lawsuits that are filed against the accuser. You should have him on your show like Jay did and then bring up your criticism with him.
The other thing that doesn't make sense about Jock randomly shooting a guy is... This is real life. People aren't going to go along with you in that moment, forget about getting in trouble later. If someone you were with just randomly committed murder you would think they had some sort of mental episode, you wouldn't continue to let that person be armed and follow their directions. In real life I would expect randomly committing murder for no reason would get you disarmed and handcuffed, no body wants an armed unpredictable psycho around.
wait until this guy learns about the SS.
“guys there’s no way these respectable german sheepdog warfighters see their battle brother mow down a jewish family and do nothing, they’d arrest him and put him in monopoly jail!!!! never happened!!!”
Incorrect
That's not necessarily.
Exactly what I thought..the source walking them in is a huge security issue, especially meeting them on target
I have no idea who that guy is. But he screams of, "Trust me bro."
Eghhh. I'll pass. I've been following Jocko for some years now. And Jocko's message is spot on and has helped me through a great many things in life.
"Get after it."
-Jocko
They say chris kyle under jocko was sniping iraqi civilians and chris kyle said he sniped 30 American civilians during a national emergency with katrina. so idk bruh ask the 3/8 marines what happened...
Yea I was there in 06 and that never happened
@@duaneacarterii well 3/8 XO just came out against what ur saying... SO what unit where u with?
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One more reason why SF> beach ball boys
They're even making marsocs look like a better choice and they still haven't settled on a name or mission
They settled on both lol what?
The warrior that I appreciate the most is the quiet, regular boot 11 bravo, who just did his job and doesn’t get any type of recognition beyond what he did in the military.
The Team House guys were practically giggling and smirking about this guy being a whistle blower which I thought was odd.
You know the biggest thing i got from that podcast was that the dude was mad nswf didnt pick his dojo to train seals karate. Bro you guys are paid to shoot, not foot fist way
This dude is a straight up Jocko supporter all you did was make a video showing the opposite approach for clicks
I literally walked you through the inconsistencies of the story from the perspective of someone who’s done that type of mission dozens of times and that’s your take?
There’s a 0% chance your IQ is above 80.
@@ValhallaVFT brother I gave you 20-30 minutes of my time I ain’t no dude off the streets. I’m an 11B all day like I told another listener in this thread about evidence. If you served in the military you know that ain’t nobody going around within the company or Battalion footprint getting receipts. Often times you in a field problem or you’re deployed you know guys from other companies and they share information. If you listen to his interviews sir from the Green Beret Chronicles, Team House his main objective is to clean up the teams. Where there is smoke there’s fire. All I’m saying is this whole thing this is a strong claim every 5 minutes if you watch Eric’ interviews he has Seals and Marines sending him the information because they’re afraid to step out.
I’m done
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@@ValhallaVFT 80 is giving him too much credit.
@@harrythomasjr8521 you say you’re an 11B like that gives any credence to you having a fucking clue about how all of this works lol. Thank you for giving me your background though, now I can just roll my eyes and move on.
@@ValhallaVFT I never intended for the host to respond. Don’t care what you think about me stated what I stated. I hope you continue to get subscribers and do your thing I stumbled here based on the algorithm but when I see Bull Jive I’m a call it out plain and simple
Thanks mate. I only barely know you from a few weeks of following, but I trust your word innately. It's a shame things like this happen, but it just goes to show that even elite groups have guys who will let you down. I hope this guy retracts his claims & gets help. Either way, you're all class in my book.