Can These High-Tech Gates Stop Fare Evasion on New York City Subways? | NBC New York
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Whether it’s people jumping the turnstile, unlatching easy-to-reach emergency exit doors, or hopping on a bus without paying, fare evasion is rampant across the city. NBC New York's Andrew Siff reports.
By the time security arrives the guy already got on the train already! 0:41 🤣
Are you saying the train is on time (or functional) for once? 🤣
HOW The homeless gonna carry all their furniture thru that buzzer.?
Oh, I can't wait until that starts malfunctioning like everything else.
We have those exact same gates in paris since 2019 and they work perfectly fine
if the gates are going to made of glass. than i hope the mta has the money to do never ending replacement of glass. cause you know glass breaks. and some people don't give two flying fu*ks. about breaking the glass.
I'm sure the glass is too thick to break easily
@@eglover177 Nah. They won’t last
They could use tempered glass, would be more expensive than regular glass tho.
@@nickoli0101 Actually, it's probably plexiglass or some other transparent material that's stronger than regular glass, but you're right that it can still be broken or at least vandalized.
Those look like big expensive gates that NYC vandals will break more easily than current gates.
exactly. It takes someone really out of touch not to realize that.
If other cities can do it, than we can. But unlike most cities with these doors, NYC has more crime and fare evaders
What about using the existing law-enforcement personnel to stop this practice ? Force the DA’s to actually prosecute crime just like we did when Giuliani and Bloomberg were in office. No need for blue ribbon commissions and high paid consultants to re-invent the wheel or turnstiles in this case.
The cops don't care. There's been many times when I've seen cops open the gate or stand there and watch people stepping over the turnstiles. The problem is the cost of living here is too high and low wage jobs. Every year the fair goes up while many people are barely living. If the mta subtracts $15 off the weekly MetroCard and $30 off the monthly metro card and minimum wage is increased to $20 an hour, a great majority of fare evaders will begin paying their fare.
@@nyc4life448 they're told not to do anything
enforcing the law is racists and discriminates against the black community
It’s a decline in moral values and a huge sense of entitlement, both encouraged by the radical left, especially since the riots that started in the name of George Floyd!
@@nyc4life448 they'll shoot you if you jump thr turnstile
How about use that budget to keep people safe on the subway stations with the rising crime?
Literally and clean up the piss feces and make the place smell and look way more presentable along with that faster service in train wifi etc etc they spent 100 mill on revamping grand central was already insanely clean they're idiots w their money intentionally because they know they'll keep getting handouts I hope more and more evade
Agreed! Notice that throughout this entire news segment, there wasn't one mention about preventing crime where instead it was all about money. Preventing crime should be their main concern instead of the millions of dollars that they're losing. If they stop fare evasion, it mitigates crime in the subway. It's that simple!
@irrelevant2235 frank James the person that shot up that whole train paid their service isn't worth 3 bucks 2 bucks or even 1 buck it should be free slow unsafe dirty rats water leaking etc etc I've seen people bleeding out and cops just chase who go through a door
what police is it supposed to alert?
Even if there's a cop in the station, by the time alarm sounds the cop won't know who did it. They would have to witness it making the alarm pointless.
By the time someone realizes what the buzzer is for the person who walked rite in is 3 stops away😂😂
Get ready for a fare hike people.
Ppl gonna break them first day
Those plastic green-lit doors on the new fare gates with the alarm need to open INWARD, not outward. That way, as soon as the fare-paying passenger enters, the doors will close right behind them without leaving the non-fare-paying passenger enough time to make it through the gates accordingly.
yeah, also the doors should be longer, especially at the bottom so people won't crawl under
Can't wait to climb over these 😂
You don’t need to do all that, just walk directly behind a paying customer
@@enarush1 🤣
I'm sure you can't! And how PROUD will you be of yourself when you show children that they can be criminals too, punk??😀😂
Just wave your hand across the green sensor on the opposite side for the exit door and you go right on through.
Notice that throughout this entire news segment, there wasn't one mention about preventing crime where instead it was all about money. Preventing crime should be their main concern instead of the millions of dollars that they're losing. If they stop fare evasion, it mitigates crime in the subway. It's that simple!
The manufacturers of these gates are LICKING THEIR LIPS as they con the MTA into another bad deal! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
What if u have children with u? The alarm will go off if someone goes behind according to the video.
The only way to stop fare evasion is to make transit free, like our roads and highways are free. Why not?
Apparently you’ve never seen a toll booth or an EzPass transponder tag?
@@johnconnelly3066 some roads and bridges have a toll, but most of them don’t.
But then it will be harder to catch criminals. They say that not everyone who fare beats is a criminal, but the ones who do crimes in transit are fare beaters. Also, now there will be congestion pricing on certain parts of Manhattan. And roads and bridges aren't "free". Tax dollars pay for them
@@smrk2452 Are you not aware of the proposal for congestion pricing that the MTA plans to use as a revenue stream ? Ironically funded by the people who are not using the MTA; on roads they’ve already paid for with their taxes.
Oh that's a BRILLIANT idea, and then we should make food free, and rent free, and internet free, and Iphones free too. Oh don't forget free Gasoline and free electric cars! Why didn't I think of that.../S
Omg it buzzes leaving fair jumpers shaking in fear lmao
He literally just walked past
Instead of paying so much attention to people getting into the subway without paying a fare why don’t they pay attention to the crime on the subway and the many people getting injured and killed in the city.
Agreed! Notice that throughout this entire news segment, there wasn't one mention about preventing crime where instead it was all about money. Preventing crime should be their main concern instead of the millions of dollars that they're losing. If they stop fare evasion, it mitigates crime in the subway. It's that simple!
I have a great idea. Cut the fares in half and you won"t have fare evaders. No need to waste money on all these transit enforcement and fancy new technology..
The MTA would rather pay their buddies more money into more technology, creating more waste, especially plastic, rather than employing people to monitor and deter, thereby adding a human element to an otherwise dehumanizing experience these days. 🤷🏻♂️🙄
Is that really going to stop this?
It's New York for a reason 🤞🏽🤞🏽
It sure wont, but we all know what will happen to the system after they declare full-fare = racism in federal court. 👺☠
There's a big gap in middle
Looks like you can just push
Through the doors
Haaa ive seen people jumping literally in front of cops and they do not do anything at all 😂
This will probably cost them more implementing compared to just letting people jump!
The current door buzz and it alerts fare beaters that its open and they run for it
The MTA bureaucrats should be using those billions of dollars to hire competent workers who can fix the problems with the unreliable rail cars, crumbling platforms, and system cleanliness.
Right....so those assholes that jump over the gates can continue to do so....and continue to cause the MTA to lose all those hundreds of millions each year....and simultaneously jacking up the fare price for the non-assholes that DON'T jump the gate....now I get it.🙄🙄
Oh, plastic and/or glass gates; they'll last about 10 seconds here. Alarms will summon no one. Whoever thought of this knows nothing of NYC.
The FARE JORDANS will easily beat any buzzer.
Can't wait to see this fail!😂😂😂😂
Think better that system will be destroyed in a few months . Think again😂
It's a cost of living issue. Reduce the fares in half and less commuters will be fare evading...
People pay taxes let that transportation be free for the people!
A buzzer is gonna stop ppl XD
People can still hop the turn style
Raise taxes on those who benefit and make it free to ride for the public.
They're better off speeding up signal modernization efforts and de-interlining the subway system. If not, they need to drop the fare to
euro already been using this for an long long time . US WAY BEHIND
the old ones were metal and psycho proof. One homeless man with a wrench is gonna shatter these day one for sure
Counters:
- Duck and Crawl under
This is not going to work if folks go in behind you and there are no police there then what? Is there room to crawl under? Are the gates easy to break? Could be a waist of money and customers will have to pay for the MTA failure.
They made it even easier cuz all they have to do is waive their hand over the sensor for the exit door and it opens right on up or just wait for somebody to go through and they run in after them cuz the gate stays open for about several seconds and you only need one to two seconds to go through....waste of money.
They look nice, But you already know you're going to see that plexy glass destroyed on most of these.
This is the worst idea. Focus on new cars not this BS. Just make the subway free for all.
THE BLACK GIRL AT END JUST SNITCHED SMDH
Good god man why does the MTA need to use the most expensive everything for whatever it does? Just do what London does and use rubber fare gates so if they get damaged its easier to replace them. Those things are made of solid glass, within a week of them going up in Brooklyn or the Bronx they’ll be broken. You can have that thing make all the sound it wants but it doesn’t really matter if the guy is already through and on a train. Just put in a contactless system and rubber gates. Why do we need to spend half an arm to get even the simplest thing done?
Bro there is such a simple solution to stopping fare evasions, instal cameras that have facial recognition software then link that to the NYS dmv database, so if you just them they just mail you a fine and fines should start an 10k and I promise after people gotta pay 10k for a fine they won’t do it again
@@chickenpommes19 wrd guys a fkin dork
Its going to be a lot of buzzing.
Why not add a Camera with facial recognition? Why not add a motion sensor so that only 1 person can go through? Law enforcement isn't going to be there all the time.
With normal people these gates would maybe be ok but with what’s going on in nyc these gates would be vandalized everyday. $$$$$$😮
The MTA doesnt know how to maintain the shitty system they have. They don't deserve my fare.
They will find a way ,No matter what technology is being used, there is always a way., and those glass doors will break and more money wasted to repair ,now if the buzz snapped a picture of the person and mail them the fee for ticket . A buzz will not stop them .
People don't walk around with licenses plates
@@eglover177 don't give them ideas.
Boy, I wish I was so entitled that I could just evade any fare all day and take a huge, costly mass transit system for granted....and let everyone else pay for me....what a privilege.🙄🙄
They got them in New Jersey
In Japan. some of them dont even have gates! they just trust the person they put in the card.
It won't 😆
this clearly discriminates against the black community. You are forcing them to pay the MTA fares and that is a form of oppression! Fair jumping, subway surfing, basketball, rap, getting pregnant and car theft are all important life skills in the hip hop community
Should they deal with school students that they forget to bring their metro card
Nice… so when I pay to go through and someone slips intimately close to me to dodge this vulnerability… I’ll have a loud alarm blared at me and possibly hassled about if I paid my fare.
Them shit jus gonna b buzzin tha f..k off ..
Bring back low tech
Metal rotating turnstiles from the 1950s
They worked!!!
Really...buzzers they think people care about buzzers sounding off in a crowded NYC subway
Add metal detectors while you're at it.
WASTE OF MONEY ! PEOPLE DONT PAID THEIR FARE CAUSE THEIR BROKE OR HARDLY WORKING ! WORK ON THAT INSTEAD !
Another waste of money. Mta would not install protection gates of incoming trains and continue letting people die.
The current metal gates need to be eliminated because they can be forced open and then there are the buses that bus drivers allow people to go in without paying, sometimes in droves. _'m on SSI andstill pay, YEAH I'M HONEST, Unlike thosethatclaim they're poor yet canafford Iphones, apple watches, Expensive Androids, $200 Headphones, Nikes and Starbucks lattes, yet claim to not be able to afford $2.75.
What fare evasive? MTA have trillions of money to waste to upgrade money tap, new trains, and now new turnstiles lol😅
Their customers don't even get a break, no free rides when you have loads of money to spend behind nonsense lol😂😂
What a joke 😂
NO FREE RIDES NOT EVEN FOR PAYING CUSTOMERS lol😅🤣😂
You think the cheaters are afraid of buzzers.
I don’t take trains I drive but if I ever have to I hope it close on me while walking threw 😂😂😂 easy money mta lmfaooo
but will police be there at all?
New York still can’t think, We need hi turnstiles gate
Get ready to hear the buzzer all day long.
Cops aren't there at all
of course not .....Good luck
This system will works until the people not paying find the way around...!..those gates won't last long..!
RIGHT HERE THEY NEED TO PUT N.Y.P.D. POLICE TRANSIT 🚇🚇🚇 DISTRICT COPS 👮♀️ 👮♂️ 🚔 INSIDE THE SUBWAY TRAIN 🚇 STATION CAB CARS NOT AT THE TURNSTYLES WHERE YOU SCAN & $$$ PAY 2.90 CENTS WITH YOUR OMNY SCANNER CARD PASS.
Waste of money
This is a joke it’ll be a big waste of billions it won’t work
Lol 🍿🍿🍿🍿
Need shin kicks for fare evaders
@Cold takes they didnt pay the people that operate the trains and buses though.
Add metal detectors
They just gonna break them s*** This is a joke.
So what if someone dont have money then what lol
There should be cops at every station and harsher penalties need to be given.
The cops should be on the actual trains and stopping problems from occurring you dumbass 2.75 is replaceable while life is not
@@devthegod298 😆 Your plan is even better but no need to name call.
@KD SWAGGERtheyre always at the turnstiles but never riding the trains sorry man but I see people evade and they don't have the money or they don't wanna pay for disco dancing 🕺 wanna be rappers feces urine delayed harassing and lottery of death service and I don't blame them
Copying MBTA Boston😂😂😂
Those plexiglass doors will be broken in minutes. How about this:
“Fare evasion arrests skyrocket more than 90% of those arrested are Black, Brown riders
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Feb 22, 2023 - Fines for fare evasion run up to $100, even though a subway ride costs just $2.75.”
Hmm, perhaps there's a correlation between race and turnstile jumping?
Also-
The NYC MTA lost $690 million last year to deadbeats on the subways, trains and busses.
Over 400,000 deadbeats PER DAY.
Why not have fare cards that give you access to the train system only if you have money at the entrance and then install single person turnstile gates so that literally only one person can enter for train access and the person that enters that scans their card must have money on the card
Hahahahahhsaha
🤣 Get ready for a huge fair increase suckers!
BOY, AREN'T YOU CLEVER!! Totally freeloading off the system and letting everyone else pay for your crimes!! You must be proud of yourself!!
We will just break them
And then they will break you. That will do everyone else a favor.
@@Markjenson1894 Turnstile break you? Hmmmm, yeah, Immmmmmmmmm gonna go with my initial comment said, it sounds better than yours.
@@Joseph-XRP No, not the turnstile that will break you....the authorities will break you. You'll get nailed with destruction of property as well as fare evasion. Hope you enjoy cleaning up the highway landscaping.
Challenge accepted.
What kind of challenge are you referring to?
Waste of Money, won't work.. They need a better system than that. They will completely run when the alarm goes off and no one will do nothing about it. Waste of Money... Not worth it.
That's the dumbest design they can possibly adopt, rush hour is still a thing right? If it stays open for 2 seconds you know someone will slip through. If it injured ANYONE, that's a law suit right there
How? How can you sue someone for preventing crime? If you steal and get hurt, that's your own damn fault.