2016 Porsche Cayman GT4 Hot Lap! - 2015 Best Driver's Car Contender
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- Pro driver Randy Pobst hot laps the 2016 Porsche Cayman GT4 around Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca for Motor Trend's 2015 Best Driver's Car.
The Porsche Cayman GT4 is one of 10 contenders competing for the title of 2015 Best Driver's Car. The winner will be announced on Thursday, October 1st on the Motor Trend Channel - / motortrend and www.motortrend.com
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I could watch these all day.
+SlipknotMaggot0526 Same here :)
+SlipknotMaggot0526 I KNOW RIGHT!
+SlipknotMaggot0526 Agreed Maggot! I wish they'd involve Randy in more stuff too, he's great to watch, and he's such a good driver.
+mojostevo More Randy! More Randy! More Randy! More more more! Randy Randy Randy!
+SlipknotMaggot0526 Agreed! Have been really enjoying this series. Wish they could do more of these. And Randy Pobst just really knows what he's talking about and has great insight.
I can't help but suspect that Porsche geared the GT4 long to handicap it against the 911 range. Shorten the gears a decent amount and this car would be significantly quicker to 60, 1/4 mile, and lap times.
+Zygrene Yours is the only logical explanation of that long gearing I have heard to this point.
Porsche apparently have claimed that they geared it long so it's drivers wouldn't have to do a lot of upshifting when overtaking.
I read that in a review of this car on the internet.
That is bullcrap.
Someone here said it is geared that way for top speed.
That is even bigger bullcrap.
So the best explanation that actually makes a lot of sense I've heard so far is yours.
+Christos Segkounas Yeah those reasons make no sense. Overtaking is about acceleration, which would be quicker with shorter gearing. The top speed excuse is silly too. On most race tracks the GT4 will never hit 150mph, which is still achievable with much shorter gearing. Sixth sense is telling me it's gotta be a handicap. I hope someone drops in a shorter final drive and does a comparison vs stock.
+Zygrene Yeah I'm waiting to see someone change to shorter gear ratios and make the car handle a bit more neutral and then compare it to the carrera s
+Zygrene agreed
Agreed. And imagine it with a PDK gearbox. It would just demolish the 911 in terms of performance.
Perfect car.
Perfect edition.
Perfection.
Top speeds on the main straight:
1. Cadillac CTS-V - 133 mph (214 km/h)
2. Mercedes AMG C63 S - 132 mph (213 km/h)
3. Cadillac ATS-V - 128 mph (206 km/h)
4. Porsche Cayman GT4 - 127 mph (205 km/h)
5. Lexus RCF - 124 mph (200 km/h)
6. Golf R - 112 mph (180 km/h)
7. Mazda MX-5 - 103 mph (166 km/h)
Interesting post
AMG GT S was 137 mph
If it understeers, they should have reduced the setting on the front anti roll bar, increase the rear one, and take some of the rear wing down to reduce downforce in the rear. Everything on this car is adjustable, so you can make it drive exactly as you want.
+derbigpr500 mhm like all modern gt cars of porsche !
+derbigpr500 Around 2:39 he said that he would add another hole to the rear sway bar to stiffen it up even more, meaning that it was already set as stiff as they could set it. I would assume they also adjusted the front sway bar and rear wing.
your trying to compare a high momentum car with this...a low momentum meaning most of the weight sits behind the driver. by decreasing the front you be understeering much more because the rear already is pushing and front not enough stiffness to handle the back.
+B00steDevil
That is not correct. Anti-roll bars influence the wheel load difference between the inner and outer wheel on that axle. For example: A stiffer anti-roll bar increases the wheel load difference. The outer wheel is loaded more and the load on the inner wheel is reduced more. Due to the tyre characteristics the amount of side force won on the outer wheel can't compensate the amount of side force you lose on the inner wheel. Therefore the slip angle on the front axle for a certain amount of force has to be increased. This means that the the difference between the slip angles on front and rear axle increases and the driver needs to increase his steering angle. The car understeers more. Contrary to that a softer anti-roll bar in the front reduces understeer. However the anti-roll bars in the front and rear should always be changed in opposite directions simultaneously if you want the keep the same amount of body roll.
I hope you can make at least some sense of this.
+fesch198 the stiffer the anti roll bar, the more force is required to cause body roll. So the stiffer an anti roll bar is the smaller the disparity in wheel load is between the inner and outer wheels.
Man I've truly grown to love the Motor Trend crew, by far my favorite car channel on TH-cam. These videos are just so addicting, can't wait for the full 2015 MT BDC video.
GT4 has fully adjustable suspension, so that under-steer is no issue and can be dialed-out. Great Drive
Could not agree more with your rank list Motor Trend.
Really liked the video and how many thoughts you guys put into placing them on the board.
I enjoyed it, so thank you for that. Watched probably all of your videos, but this one makes me wanna subscribe the channel.
Keep up the good work.
Randy you have the best job in the world
Love watching you drive man and the feed back
There should be a list of the lap times so far at the end of each video. I know it doesn't determine the winner but we all like to know
They don't do that because they don't know in which order you are watching these videos
+Raphy Martinez (Let's Talk Ball Pythons) Thats what the comparison video is for at the end of the week
1.Cayman Gt4 1:37.43
2.Cts V 1:38.52
3.Ats V automatic 1:39.65
4.Ats V manual 1:40.18
5.C63 S 1:40.50
6.RC-F 1:43.20
7.Golf R 1:46.95
8.MX-5 1:50.68
+Blake Hutchins , thanks.
+Raphy Martinez (Let's Talk Ball Pythons)
COMPLETE LIST:
1. Mercedes AMG GT S 1:35.57
2. Porsche Cayman GT 4 1:37.43
3. Cadillac CTS-V 1:38.52
4. Chevy Corvette Z06 (Z07) 1:38.60
5. Cadillac ATS-V (automatic) 1:39.65
6. Cadillac ATS-V (manual) 1:40.18
7. Mercedes AMG C63 S 1:40.50
8. Lexus RC-F 1:43.20
9. Bentley Continental GT3-R 1:43.51
10. VW Golf R 1:46.95
11. Mazda MX-5 1:50.68
Mini beast!!
We are all wait for this.
Sounds great!
Future classic especially with the N/A 3.8 boxer 6cyl
RIP Paul Walker!
+ZeoStorm Made me laugh
+Felix Caseva why does it matter? its not like you knew him?
+ZeoStorm he died in a carrera gt, because thats what happens when you put someone whos not a pro driver in an extremely difficult and un forgiving super car and they drive like its a cayman with driving on in the rain...
+Billy Shea LOL do you even know who was behind the wheel?
roger rodas was, lol?! really.. killing someone in a car accident isnt something to laugh about.
These are more informative than most car reviews
And here we have the next winner of the 2015 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car.
+d1gBR Nope. The Mercedes AMG GT S wins it.
+rvind92g We´ll see ! But in 2013 the 911 won... And the GT 4 it´s the "perfect porsche"... So im betting on it.
+d1gBR no you don't get it. I actually meant the AMG GT S has already won it. the CEO of Mercedes north america tweeted it
+rvind92g daaamn... spoiler aleeert :~(
+e-hybrid 919LMP1 For good reason though. If you own a Porsche or drive one a lot, anyone understands why there is so much blind loyalty. They never disappoint, consistent durability/quality build, and always bring that perfect balanced all-around performance.
What a car. Magnificent.
Truly insane!
What a wonderful car.
So, what rollbar settings and wing settings were actually used in the test? Has it been mentioned somewhere?
LOVE IT! BEST HOT LAP!
Damn this car is sick.
Definitely my favorite 2016 Car
unbelievable car.
are the rebound and compression not fully adjustable like a gt3? couldn't they stiffen up the rear to get rid of that understeer?
Nice machine....
Mid-corner Randy said that it understeers a bit more than expected! Why not set the rear spoiler to produce a tad less downforce and try again??
what does the rear spoiler have to do with the front tires?
+Kentavis Perry An imbalance of downforce will cause lift on the opposing tires.
+Kentavis Perry It has to do with balance, understeer/oversteer is a question of balance.
But the aero package only affects high speed corners on road cars, it's not as effective as in race cars.
Ok!
+Christos Segkounas So you say aero balance can be altered on road cars, but the effects are minute! True!
Gorgeous car omg
that exhaust sounds so glorious.
Wow, up to 80 in 2nd gear? crazy....
Nice.....When is it gonna be the new Targa?
Wow. What a car! I'm surprised they left that understeer in there for the production model. I wonder if it might handle differently on a different track.
Fav😍
Love that they only equipped it with a manual!!
except for the fact that it has way to tall gears, just a stupid thing porsche does to make it slower than stock 911s.
Love this car. The new Cayman is tough.
Why dont you guys adjust the suspension settings before setting the lap times to the drivers liking so that the experience can be correctly evaluated? This is a genuine question...
can't wait to see what the Z06 Z07 does and the AMG
great review apart from tall gearing this is it GT4
you should have put a 2016 Porsche gt3 rs in this lot.
just realized that randy pobst is the bill nye of motor trend
yeah only Bill Nye is a full on bullshitter while Pobst is the real deal.
Hey, MotorTrend!
I have a question. So, you said the Cayman would be quicker with shorter gearing, but why is that? Longer gearing means the engine revs higher, correct? As in the car has a higher red-line/rev limiter, so the gearing is a bit long, right? So why would the car be quicker with a shorter gearing ratio, since that would take away the higher reving nature of the engine? I was just curious about this is all :) Who knows, I'm not a mechanic or an engineer, so I probably asked a really dumb question, but again, I'm curious! Haha!
Thanks so much for the awesome videos! Keep em' coming, please! I would love for you guys to release content more often, as they're such great, entertaining, well produced and informative videos! :D
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Obviously the winner
the want is strong with this one!
GT4 is such a weapon! Far beyond many cars though Randy is 100% correct in saying tighten the rear. Keen to know if they had the rear sway set to hard as it is adjustable.
what's the retail price on one of those?
Porsche baby!
Out of all the cars i hope this wins it!
amg gt s
Righting this, before I see the review. Never thought I'd buy a Porsche that was not a 911... Then, along came the Panamera (still an ugly duckling) and now, the fabulous Cayman (ok, it's a cheaper/lighter 911).
This car is so awesome in everyday usage that it's frightening. You do your chores, get stuck in traffic, buy some groceries, get stuck in traffic, find a good portion of free race track (also know as roads) and you are in paradise.
Since Porsche solved the "floating front syndrome" it's been one masterpiece after another.
The perfect car for the street racer.
Now, on with the show. Hope you don't make me eat my words.
Cheers.
+NorthWolfe Ok, so the "floating front" hasn't been completely solved and probably never will be. As for the gears, you can always remap them or have them remapped.
look at Johnny standing in the background like some unnoticed groupie!...hahahaha!...ok I'm done.
What's the thing he is moving his right hand on?
This car better win.
would have loved to see you set the rear sway bar and have another go at a hot lap
can we just take a moment and listen to that sound....
I see a winner already
amg gt s
Please please please tell me the new ford mustang gt is in this
3:05, What's up Johnny?
super
clear winner
Randy knows exactly what he's talking about.
Would be interesting to see how much time Randy could shave of with all suspension and sway bar settings adjusted to his liking.
Sway bar last can be adjusted but why did Porsche leave the gearing so tall??
And watch the best video for sport cars
First my dream car was a cayman R. then it was the GTS. Now it's the GT4. Till the next Cayman variant comes out.
Very cool and impressive, though also impressive that for about the same money a mid size luxury sedan is nearly as fast on track.
I wanna see Randy do a head to head comparison between that Cayman and a similarly equipped 911 and try to see which he thinks is dynamically superior!
This is like Porsches Camaro Z28.
+Ten and Two Don't think the Z28 can be put in the same sentence as the Cayman GT4 when it comes to dynamics or driving, not even comparable to the most basic Cayman. Z28 is fast on a track because it has a lot of power, super wide and super grippy tires and a lot of downforce, but it's not a particularly good car to drive. It's still a heavy muscle car. GT4 is a race car with number plates. There's a very big difference between a car that just has a lot of grip and power, and a car that is naturally balanced, mid engined, very low center of gravity, very short wheelbase, etc.
+derbigpr500 I guess you missed the Head 2 Head episodes where they put a Z28 up against a Nissan GTR and a 911 GT3.
+derbigpr500 It won BDC last year so it must drive very well.
GT4 Will be best drivers car for sure.
Seems hard not having this car as this year's winner.
We all know this one is going to win!=P
3:07 Jonny sulking with envy
+Lolman240 Envy? I was just staying out of the sun!
I'm finally glad to see the Cayman getting 911 attention.
Great video. One day he's gonna regret wearing that thing on his head.. Lol
That downshift gets me in my soul.....
LOVE that car! Was Porsche just giving the purists time to adjust to the Cayman by waiting so long to finally give it some legs? The design has all the makings for a great race car and sports car combo. I think this one is going to catch on like fire. If I hit the jackpot, I would go and pick one up myself. Maybe someday.....
No the GT4 should have the 500 hp 4.0L.
We'll just wait for the Gt4 RS 4.0 (we can hope right)
That’s what I’m saying
+motortrend OK seriously no 2015 Viper TA 2 on this race course. Also you guys are sponsored right??
"I hate this thing! It won't turn!" --Randy Pobst
that engine screams!
Motor Trend knows they love German cars the most. Built the best / look the best.
Porsche Cayman GT4.....its gonna be a fun battle with this against the MX5, not in a race, but both seems really fun to drive. As for the understeer and tall gearing, thats Porsches way of not letting the Cayman get too far ahead from the 911.
This is the car to own in my opinion. Shame it was a limited run. Probably will go str8 up in value...
here that Porsche. Get on Randy's recommendations.
Now test the gt3rs
i wish i can shift like randy pobst
Why was the Porsche 911 GT3 RS not in this year's competition???
This car will cost a fortune in about 5 years. It is a serious investment right now.
Last Porsche with an NA Flat 6
One of the last Porsches with the manual
Plus, it's a special verison.
Definitely would buy if I had the money ;)
Is there any aftermarket solution for the long gearing on the Cayman GT4?
+Daniel Maia yes, as he mentioned, you could change the final drive. A relatively inexpensive fix, which I've read early owners are already doing.
+Richard Basford you have to be kidding me. changing the gearing ratio in a porsche is anything but inexpensive...unless you've got that oil Sheikh money
eeterp32 I think you're being a bit ridiculous. Changing the final drive would be far less expensive than changing a gear set and is a fairly common mod for many race cars. I've found ring+pinion sets for a 911 online from $2g - $3,500. Remember I'm talking final drive, not actual ratios.
+Daniel Maia Would final drive gearing change all the gears? (1st-6th) Honest question, I guess I always figured final drive gearing would be only 6th gear but that may just be complete ignorance. Would changing the final drive gearing cause you to hit redline sooner in each and every gear?
tkobvious The final drive is like a multiplier for your gears. If you get a shorter final drive, for example from 4:1 to 5:1, every gear will be shortened. Redline would be hit at a lower speed in every gear. (hope this helped)
there must be some adjustment in suspension that would make this car faster... It doesnt make sense to be fast as z28 on this track.
I thought you could get it in a pdk? Maybe in Europe but not US I guess
+jack snell manual only
Dream car... i would take this over ANYTHING!!
... Except for a Koenigsegg One:1 or a Ford Capri Zakspeed or a Porsche 935... but man this car is up there!
❤
Randy should really get an AntiReflection coating for his glasses. Not only would he see better, but the glasses would look much nicer on camera. There wouldn't be any reflections in the lenses.
This thing has only gotten better now that it has a 911 engine.... I'd love to see a Cayman receive the the GT3's 3.8L flat-6! :D
There is room for 1 second improvement with swaybars
+Montenegro Montenegrin proof?
The long gearing was designed withe 'Ring in mind. Much longer, faster track. Still, to put down the time it did in this shootout against cars with 200-300 more HP is literally unbelievable. $100,000 or less will not buy you a better car with more exclusivity and accessible performance.
The only things that bothers me is how they put a mic literally inside the rear exhaust pipe to make it sound like a fire breathing monster. Notice when he talks during the hot lap it sounds like he is driving in a taxi and then they crank back up the exhaust pipe audio once he stops talking.
please ford mustang gt and gt350 hot lap
Shouldn`t the GT3 RS be in too? It wasn`t launched when they did last years COTY.....
this made my package happy as well
385 horse power what a monster... ... .... ... .. .