I once body blocked a Luigi side B, ate a misfire, missed the tech, and got stage spiked. That was in 1972. I haven't gone off stage against a Luigi since then.
Did you know there are two versions of Green Missile? If you input it like a smash attack, it goes slightly farther and hits harder. I think a good buff would be letting the smash input of it go through opponents it hits, that way you could cross people up and not get blocked by just getting hit.
I actually do know but I've never thought to myself "i shoud really use the version of green missile that travels less far'' so i didn't feel like mentioning it. Also that would honestly be a cool change
Can I just say, I REALLY hate the design philosophy they had for Luigi... The entire reason his recovery and movement is the way it is is because Sakurai just really wanted his movement to be shaped like the letter L. He can go straight sideways, and he can go straight up, but his air speed is so slow so to keep it that way. Its annoying, because in the Smash Bros. loading screen tips, it claims that Luigi has "aerial superiority" compared to Mario, even though Mario is significantly more threatening in the air than Luigi, and its all because of air speed. The reason it bothers me so much is because that's NOT how Luigi works in the Mario games. Luigi is superior to Mario in both movement speed, jump height, and air mobility, but he also skids around and has less control. But Sakurai designed Luigi before Luigi even really had notable appearances in games. Basically he made up Luigi's moveset from scratch (well, technically he was a semi-clone of Mario, but you know what I mean) instead of basing it on the source material (because there was no source material). And because of Sakurai's INSISTANCE on not changing veteran movesets too much, Luigi still remains as slow as a rock when he's in the air. :( Also, I just hate how weak the sourspot of Luigi's up special is. It doesn't really do any knockback at all, which was really unnecessary, since its punishable enough as is.
In smash the only stats they got right are his jump height and floatiness, everything else about him is just worse than Mario. The only things saving this character are his ridiculous frame data and combos. Even his low traction got removed.
What complicates things is that whilst he's faster in some games, he's slower in others. I recall reading that Mario can jump further in Mario Galaxy, but it's been a long time since I last played it. I'm honestly kinda glad the devs doesn't change the movesets of characters too much, though I do see room for improvement. Tbh, I'd rather buff Green Missile than outright remove it though.
Buffing his airspeed would give Luigi a MUCH healthier kit already. Not only would it make him feel like he’s fighting on the same planet as you but it would also get rid of his 0-deaths and free 50% combos while still giving him the resources to combo if you wanna work for it. I’d be all for this change
Literally the main reason why Luigi is so low on the tier list. You didn’t even mention that Luigi probably takes the most time recovering in the game, giving plenty of time for brawlers to edgeguard, zoners to ledgetrap, etc.
@@Mike-di3mo Steve's blocks, minmins arms, pyra's down air, kazuya's disgusting throw angle (I don't even know which one it is, pretty sure it's fthrow) plus projectile plus dair (or nair maybe idk fgc characters) spike, sure puff has insanely good edgeguards but a lot of these are just disgusting, like look at pyra down air.
@@notmyname213Agreed. Also, he should also have better mobility. There's absolutely no reason why he should be slower than Mario and have the second slowest air speed.
As an Luigi main, Green Missile actually isn't really that useful for recovery, because up B's amazing vertical distance, you would just air dodge to go back on stage, or just go very low. Up B is a kinda good counter to edgeguard, due to coin, which sometimes works, and you would never really use green missile, especially BECAUSE of misfire, because that little vertical boost that Misfire does NOT give you, so in my opinion, I think green missile gets ruined BECAUSE of misfire, and of course, just getting edgeguarded.
I think if Green Missile get replaced in the next Smash game it should be the flash bulb from Luigi's Mansion, it would be a charging attack where Luigi charges his flashlight just like in Luigi's Mansion 2 & 3, you can't cancel or store the charge and upon release it deals slight damage and stuns opponents facing the attack, the charge increases the radius, to compensate for the loss of Green Missile's horizontal movement Luigi would be given better horizontal movement from normal jumps and his up special
It really sucks fighting against someone with a counter and having to try to recover as luigi. I hate it a lot. Also never use this move in neutral unless you actually wanna just fool around and hope for a misfire. What annoys me is yes the misfire is strong and can kill, but moves like peach’s side b and pikachu’s are pretty safe of shield. Luigi’s green missile is really bad on shield. Even misfire is.
The way Luigi is so unpredictable and spontaneous is why I love using him. It speaks to his character throughout the entire Mario franchise, as well as the game. Playing any character feels like thats how the character would be in SSB only. But Luigis gameplay is probably how he’d act outside of ssb. And who doesnt love gambling
I know cyclone is broken, but with how it is in this game it would’ve been fine as a recovery move since Luigi wouldn’t be able to edge guard the entire cast unlike in smash 4.
it can also jab lock opponents at low percent and follow up with jab for another lock. hardest part is putting ur opponent in a tech chase situation at such a low percent
I can't overstate how obscene it is to have a character who's ENTIRE recovery banks on RNG. Misfire has a 10% occurance rate and you have a 50% chance of getting stuck in the wall, meaning move works as intended 45% of the time and even with the odds being less than half the move is STILL terrible. Compound that with Luigi's tech jump, if you tech a stage spike (which WILL happen because of your head getting stuck) Luigi's Tech jump sends him too far for him to drift back to ledge, his Up-B offers virtually no horizontal drift and you've already burned your double jump before Missiling to stage so you'll most likely just die for TECHING. YES you can always react, but the amount of things you need to process on REACTION is ridiculous. Keep in mind that this situation is your "REWARD" for using your recovery move, potentially avoiding your opponent's edge guarding attempt, the game screwing you over by making you vulnerable for literally no reason, and you successfully anticipating your opponent trying to stage spike you afterwards. It honestly feels like an extreme oversight by the developers but no one ever brings this up because of the "Dreaded Zero-to-Death". While I'd love to bring back Cyclone as a recovery move, it would take ton of fine tuning to not make a repeat of Smash 4 or make it even more frustrating than it is currently, so I'd be okay with just giving Luigi's aerial Up-B more drift afterwards akin to Brawl, so he can survive stage spikes and use it SLIGHTLY further away from the stage while still being able to grab the ledge a lot of I feel like that's pretty reasonable buff.
I would say Belmonts Up-B is the worst considering it is useless is many scenarios where F-air and Up-air could be used instead. Or anything Doc has, his recovery is doodoo as a whole. Mac might as well only have side-B, and Chrom has zero horizontal movement. But the video is pretty good!
I’ll do you one worse: Pit / Dark Pit sideB. A lot of the same issues, except it puts him in atrocious lag offstage, and on-stage it’s one of the most punishable moves in the game people don’t know about. Easy as hell to parry to since its startup is crazy, and even the laggiest moves in the game like Snake fsmash, DDD fsmash, and Lucas usmash can usually punish it on parry (I think, one of those is 1 frame too slow, meaning you HAVE to shield). The armor is also laughable since it doesn’t last that long and the hitbox itself after detection is frame 2 meaning he is vulnerable for 1 frame to get interrupted. So yeah there are a lot of similarities, but I guess since my recovery generally is not as atrocious, I’ll give worse recovery move to you, but since you included other aspects like onstage capabilities and edgeguarding, I’ll still say Pit sideB is worse. I play Luigi in 4 and Brawl and man did they gut him in every aspect I enjoyed. Great content, though, I look forward to more
0:09. Little Mac could've easily edge-guarded that Meta Knight. You just need to use his down smash as Meta Knight approaches the edge. All his smashes have superarmor after the move starts
Anyone who doesn't go offstage to ledgeguard Luigi due to fear of a misfire is missing the best opportunity to get easy kills. It's an unnecessarily bad move and would love to see more interesting moves replace it in future titles.
Sakurai forgot how balancing works with Luigi. Sure, yes, grab, but he took away down-b’s recovery capability and didn’t give him anything to compensate. He took a mid-tier character from Smash 4 and purposefully dropped him down to the very bottom.
In a vacuum sure, it's not a good recovery move, but I'd argue it's just fine on Luigi. He can just go super low with it to avoid most edgeguards because of his high jump and up b. Sure you can get hit on the way up but still ain't bad.
They put RNG on a mobility move in a platform fighter. That is just a bad design. It might not be the immediate reason why the rest of the move is so bad, but the fact that it can randomly be good is likely the justification for it being bad in general.
Nah man best move in the game I use it WAAAY to often. But yes it is awful and should be replaced with something else entirely…like idk down bad having more recover or making his zair a true zair
believe me, it isn't the worst move ganondorf's side special goes less distance, puts him into freefall, can't be charged, can't misfire, and if he accidentally hits the opponent with it while he's trying to reach ledge, he is just guaranteed to die
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I once body blocked a Luigi side B, ate a misfire, missed the tech, and got stage spiked. That was in 1972. I haven't gone off stage against a Luigi since then.
Smash didn't exist in 1972 lol
@@benjaminratthe9904 yes it did. I was a lyndon b. johnson main. got 0-2'd at every local tho
Ah, a lyndon b. johnson main. thats nice to see.
Oh shit a Lyndon b Johnson main
Didn't the vutemism get him@@hunbi1875
we love gambling
We do
Chchch errr aw dang it!
Let’s go gambling
BZZZZZZZ!! Aw dang it!
BZZZZZ aw dang it @@TdwtK
You forget this is fair since luigi can 0-death.
You give something and you get something back.
Luigi is so smart he can kill someone with a plunger attached to a spaghetti string and a busted vacuum
unless you're steve or sonic
Mewtwo could 0 to death and his recovery is better
@@EthanGrace938 mewtwo is bad unless it's smash 4
@@nascour5991Sonic is easy to juggle in the air, has slow overall frame data, and most of his moves is punishable on shield.
Luigi and Balance should never be in the same sentence 💀💀💀
Grab dair nair Dair upair up b
@@Marcuskwok-hn5yi🔥🔥🔥🔥
"luigi is a fantastic example of bad game balance"
@@hellofend4734 *design not balance
Luigi is balanced fine
You call this the worst recovery move until I get a MISFIRE
and YOU DIE AT 26%
sometimes misfire just kills you as well though
You call MISFIRES the best move until you miss
And you rocket into the blast zone
many a stocks were lost by misfiring under the stage
Nice video BUT solo Popo up b is worse in my opinion
minmin without ledges
not joker and ivysaur those guys have ways around it
eh, it would be a lot better if it weren't for nana deciding to airdodge away from ledge whenever I played icies
Totally not bias at all.
@@IDoNotLikeFutureTrunks nana being alive prevents solo popo up b from existing generally.
@@dan_the_swag_man6937what about byleth?
The best part is sometimes misfire is just a worse option then the uncharged
a-fucking-men dude.
That's why it's a misfire
without a doubt, yes, it's our worst move. I would also cause a riot if it was to be removed
Now to make sure nobody at my local campus finds this video so they discover how god awful Luigi's side B really is.
3:30 what in the hell happened to that Mario 😭
Sakurai's voice, bruh 💀 and that render LOL
THE LEGEND HIMSELF
2:26 i been deadass laughing over this for the last 10 minutes. sakurai is tripping💀
Putting sakurais head on kazuya just seemed rly fun
I doubt Sakurai himself makes the balancing decisions. He's more of a concepts guy.
How the hell does this not have more views!? The editing is amazing.
Did you know there are two versions of Green Missile? If you input it like a smash attack, it goes slightly farther and hits harder.
I think a good buff would be letting the smash input of it go through opponents it hits, that way you could cross people up and not get blocked by just getting hit.
I actually do know but I've never thought to myself "i shoud really use the version of green missile that travels less far'' so i didn't feel like mentioning it. Also that would honestly be a cool change
0:57was an actual jumpscare
Can I just say, I REALLY hate the design philosophy they had for Luigi... The entire reason his recovery and movement is the way it is is because Sakurai just really wanted his movement to be shaped like the letter L. He can go straight sideways, and he can go straight up, but his air speed is so slow so to keep it that way.
Its annoying, because in the Smash Bros. loading screen tips, it claims that Luigi has "aerial superiority" compared to Mario, even though Mario is significantly more threatening in the air than Luigi, and its all because of air speed.
The reason it bothers me so much is because that's NOT how Luigi works in the Mario games. Luigi is superior to Mario in both movement speed, jump height, and air mobility, but he also skids around and has less control. But Sakurai designed Luigi before Luigi even really had notable appearances in games. Basically he made up Luigi's moveset from scratch (well, technically he was a semi-clone of Mario, but you know what I mean) instead of basing it on the source material (because there was no source material). And because of Sakurai's INSISTANCE on not changing veteran movesets too much, Luigi still remains as slow as a rock when he's in the air. :(
Also, I just hate how weak the sourspot of Luigi's up special is. It doesn't really do any knockback at all, which was really unnecessary, since its punishable enough as is.
if they made luigi's up b sourspot stronger then that would remove the ability to do the Luigi Ladder
@@RandomDude647 I think that's a small price to pay for Luigi not being completely vulnerable trying to recover... 😅
In smash the only stats they got right are his jump height and floatiness, everything else about him is just worse than Mario. The only things saving this character are his ridiculous frame data and combos. Even his low traction got removed.
What complicates things is that whilst he's faster in some games, he's slower in others. I recall reading that Mario can jump further in Mario Galaxy, but it's been a long time since I last played it.
I'm honestly kinda glad the devs doesn't change the movesets of characters too much, though I do see room for improvement. Tbh, I'd rather buff Green Missile than outright remove it though.
Buffing his airspeed would give Luigi a MUCH healthier kit already. Not only would it make him feel like he’s fighting on the same planet as you but it would also get rid of his 0-deaths and free 50% combos while still giving him the resources to combo if you wanna work for it. I’d be all for this change
Another epic video from the egg. Wario approved!
Thank you Wario, much appreciated.
At top level Luigi has some of the best results in the game. Raru, Mexican Raru, European Raru, cancelled Raru. All top 8 stuff
the way this is edited scratches my brain just right. keep up the good work
Why are smash youtubers consistently excellent at editing
Literally the main reason why Luigi is so low on the tier list. You didn’t even mention that Luigi probably takes the most time recovering in the game, giving plenty of time for brawlers to edgeguard, zoners to ledgetrap, etc.
And that is why Luigi is bottom 20!!!!
Hell yeah! Low tier character
no way dude he's broken
>has a Touch Of Death on every characters in the game off of a single grab
> mid tier
Dang i love this game. 💔
@@KingObliv Not really, yes he has some relatively stupid options but may i direct you towards
DLC PRIVILEGE ✨✨
Low tier for sure!
0:24 Little mac experience
Your edits are amazing, the joke with the Mario's brain expanding made me absolutely cackle. Great video!!!
i love ur creativity of ur vids bro, keep it up gang🔥
i miss the days when puff had the best edgeguards in the game.
Is this from the future? Im not buying Smash 6 :(
@@Mike-di3mo *Sakurai laughs in fighters pass 2*
@@tkienjoyer which ones? Because puff still edgeguards better then all of them?
@@Mike-di3mo Steve's blocks, minmins arms, pyra's down air, kazuya's disgusting throw angle (I don't even know which one it is, pretty sure it's fthrow) plus projectile plus dair (or nair maybe idk fgc characters) spike, sure puff has insanely good edgeguards but a lot of these are just disgusting, like look at pyra down air.
@@tkienjoyer puff f throw
its the worst because egg roll doesnt get the honor of being called a recovery move
Luigi main here! I relate hard to this video, especially at 8:22. 😂 Luigi NEEDS a Side-B that's less weird and bad for Smash 6.
We'll give a better side b if they nerf his BS grab touch of death and his down b kill confirm. Make him an honest character again
@@notmyname213Agreed. Also, he should also have better mobility. There's absolutely no reason why he should be slower than Mario and have the second slowest air speed.
Little Mac's Up-B: *Am I a joke to you?*
apparently not
For the love of god sakurai please give luigi's cyclone its recovery utility back
I expected Popo up B but this is truly worse
Difference is that you don’t always have just popo’s up-b but you HAVE to use green missile to recover 90% of the time as Luigi
As an Luigi main, Green Missile actually isn't really that useful for recovery, because up B's amazing vertical distance, you would just air dodge to go back on stage, or just go very low. Up B is a kinda good counter to edgeguard, due to coin, which sometimes works, and you would never really use green missile, especially BECAUSE of misfire, because that little vertical boost that Misfire does NOT give you, so in my opinion, I think green missile gets ruined BECAUSE of misfire, and of course, just getting edgeguarded.
I hate this move, please never change it
I think if Green Missile get replaced in the next Smash game it should be the flash bulb from Luigi's Mansion, it would be a charging attack where Luigi charges his flashlight just like in Luigi's Mansion 2 & 3, you can't cancel or store the charge and upon release it deals slight damage and stuns opponents facing the attack, the charge increases the radius, to compensate for the loss of Green Missile's horizontal movement Luigi would be given better horizontal movement from normal jumps and his up special
As a Mac main, thank you for the Olimar tech 🥂
It really sucks fighting against someone with a counter and having to try to recover as luigi. I hate it a lot.
Also never use this move in neutral unless you actually wanna just fool around and hope for a misfire.
What annoys me is yes the misfire is strong and can kill, but moves like peach’s side b and pikachu’s are pretty safe of shield. Luigi’s green missile is really bad on shield. Even misfire is.
fire the pyro and an actual egg will be very popular soon
they will, i'm a fan of both of them
The way Luigi is so unpredictable and spontaneous is why I love using him. It speaks to his character throughout the entire Mario franchise, as well as the game. Playing any character feels like thats how the character would be in SSB only. But Luigis gameplay is probably how he’d act outside of ssb. And who doesnt love gambling
0:23 this would ironically make a hilarious mod! 😂
Misfire no longer giving height is soooooo bad
This channel is criminally underrated
Great video love the editing
As an ex-Luigi main yeah I rarely used this move outside recovering, ngl I think trolling with it would be a lot of fun tho
5:03 peak edit and w music bro stardust speedway is a banger
Microspacing your opponent with a wave bounced side B and then killing them with a misfire feels amazing
Underrated channel, deserves more subs!
Thanks goat! Kans dat je mc server joined? 🤓
Downthrow side b is a combo ☝️🤓
Sick video btw I really enjoyed it!
fair misfire
Reverse disjoints like on green missile are normal on moves that go fast horizontally. This move does not go fast horizontally.
"good luck juggling me with this level of air mobility, cloud players"
I know cyclone is broken, but with how it is in this game it would’ve been fine as a recovery move since Luigi wouldn’t be able to edge guard the entire cast unlike in smash 4.
I can’t believe an egg knows more abt smash than me
Massively nerfing the height his Cyclone goes really hurt his recovery
Recovery move? That's cute.
lets say hypothetically you get grabed by luigi?
pika/luigi main here. very insane how much better skull bash is compared to missile, but misfires is life 🙏
bro, trying to get misfire for me be like radxdflipnote’s “LETS GO GAMBLING!!” skit. I always lose 💀💀
i hear you but as a guy with a brother irl named luigi (i am not mario thank god) you gotta understand he's just a silly little guy!
it can also jab lock opponents at low percent and follow up with jab for another lock. hardest part is putting ur opponent in a tech chase situation at such a low percent
This vid was very funny! Keep up the great work
It should be even worse. This demon doesn’t deserve to recover on the stage
this editing is goated, very good video, make more
Goede vid zoals gewoonlijk :D
I can't overstate how obscene it is to have a character who's ENTIRE recovery banks on RNG.
Misfire has a 10% occurance rate and you have a 50% chance of getting stuck in the wall, meaning move works as intended 45% of the time and even with the odds being less than half the move is STILL terrible.
Compound that with Luigi's tech jump, if you tech a stage spike (which WILL happen because of your head getting stuck) Luigi's Tech jump sends him too far for him to drift back to ledge, his Up-B offers virtually no horizontal drift and you've already burned your double jump before Missiling to stage so you'll most likely just die for TECHING. YES you can always react, but the amount of things you need to process on REACTION is ridiculous.
Keep in mind that this situation is your "REWARD" for using your recovery move, potentially avoiding your opponent's edge guarding attempt, the game screwing you over by making you vulnerable for literally no reason, and you successfully anticipating your opponent trying to stage spike you afterwards.
It honestly feels like an extreme oversight by the developers but no one ever brings this up because of the "Dreaded Zero-to-Death".
While I'd love to bring back Cyclone as a recovery move, it would take ton of fine tuning to not make a repeat of Smash 4 or make it even more frustrating than it is currently, so I'd be okay with just giving Luigi's aerial Up-B more drift afterwards akin to Brawl, so he can survive stage spikes and use it SLIGHTLY further away from the stage while still being able to grab the ledge a lot of I feel like that's pretty reasonable buff.
Honestly, I really hope this move shows up in M&L Brothership
I would say Belmonts Up-B is the worst considering it is useless is many scenarios where F-air and Up-air could be used instead. Or anything Doc has, his recovery is doodoo as a whole. Mac might as well only have side-B, and Chrom has zero horizontal movement. But the video is pretty good!
Remember that they took Luigi's ability to use down b to recover away this game too.
I’ll do you one worse: Pit / Dark Pit sideB. A lot of the same issues, except it puts him in atrocious lag offstage, and on-stage it’s one of the most punishable moves in the game people don’t know about. Easy as hell to parry to since its startup is crazy, and even the laggiest moves in the game like Snake fsmash, DDD fsmash, and Lucas usmash can usually punish it on parry (I think, one of those is 1 frame too slow, meaning you HAVE to shield). The armor is also laughable since it doesn’t last that long and the hitbox itself after detection is frame 2 meaning he is vulnerable for 1 frame to get interrupted.
So yeah there are a lot of similarities, but I guess since my recovery generally is not as atrocious, I’ll give worse recovery move to you, but since you included other aspects like onstage capabilities and edgeguarding, I’ll still say Pit sideB is worse.
I play Luigi in 4 and Brawl and man did they gut him in every aspect I enjoyed. Great content, though, I look forward to more
The Chester of smash bros
Did you just connect this to funny brawl stars silly game fun battle?
@@Bakedbeans780 Luigi just reminded me of him
We love to gamble for the misfire
I think my streak on Misfires in a row was like 5 back to back LMAO
I miss using Luigi Cyclone as a recovery tool
0:09. Little Mac could've easily edge-guarded that Meta Knight. You just need to use his down smash as Meta Knight approaches the edge. All his smashes have superarmor after the move starts
Anyone who doesn't go offstage to ledgeguard Luigi due to fear of a misfire is missing the best opportunity to get easy kills. It's an unnecessarily bad move and would love to see more interesting moves replace it in future titles.
BRING BACK OLD LUIGI DOWN B!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!111!!
*crITIcAL HiT!*
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It's funny how they gave brawler a better version of this move (Flaming side kick) if you don't see the similarity look at it in smash 4.
Also about the patch notes those were randomly Generated you can't convince be otherwise the note were insanely vague and sometimes just lied.
The thing that gets you further in life:
Playing it safe and don’t take risks
Wait you were at Icarus?? Crazy i discovered you after that 😅 good videos!
Kirby up b is right there bucko
What if the move had a hidden stack system that guarantee's a misfire on the 7th use.
While of course still having the occasional 10% misfire.
But what if, hypothetically, you're opponent is hakari
The worst recovery move is sing, because it technically does send up the smallest amount of
Ice climbers' up B without Nana has competition now
That's why we need to bring back smash 4 helicopter
I will never forget the time I killed a Luigi by countering a Misfire xd
Holy shit! I never knew you were that funny 😭😭😭😭
Yet it always kills when you need it to
I think this is the best Fart move in the game.
Sakurai forgot how balancing works with Luigi. Sure, yes, grab, but he took away down-b’s recovery capability and didn’t give him anything to compensate. He took a mid-tier character from Smash 4 and purposefully dropped him down to the very bottom.
If someone sucks at teching I like to use Green Missile while running off the ledge towards the stage.
In a vacuum sure, it's not a good recovery move, but I'd argue it's just fine on Luigi. He can just go super low with it to avoid most edgeguards because of his high jump and up b. Sure you can get hit on the way up but still ain't bad.
W video once again
They put RNG on a mobility move in a platform fighter. That is just a bad design.
It might not be the immediate reason why the rest of the move is so bad, but the fact that it can randomly be good is likely the justification for it being bad in general.
Nintendo being Nintendo.
I love the edit at 5:00
Nah man best move in the game I use it WAAAY to often. But yes it is awful and should be replaced with something else entirely…like idk down bad having more recover or making his zair a true zair
Rollout is technically a recovery move
believe me, it isn't the worst move
ganondorf's side special goes less distance, puts him into freefall, can't be charged, can't misfire, and if he accidentally hits the opponent with it while he's trying to reach ledge, he is just guaranteed to die
I wish that his down B would go horizontally faster, like in Brawl
6:30 Weird, I was always told it has a 1/8 chance. Or did they change it since then?
it was changed to 1/10 chance in smash 4
On the bright side, it looks funny.