Long overdue correction: *This technique is only faster when used on bugs and ebonuts, and other things that slow mining speed. In all other cases, it is about 3% faster.* Follow me on Twitch! www.twitch.tv/emperorjacoba I stream Deep Rock Galactic four days per week, normally hazard 5 missions! I'm very chatty and will answer any other questions you might have about DRG. Hope to see you there!
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Its technically called cancelling animation, bcouse you r canceling the animation of the pickaxe when It retracts from the hit. This can also help with weapons that have a slow reload. Whenever you see the number of bullets go to full, TAP the pickaxe button and the ending part of the animation Is canceled. This does not work with all weapons.
In any other game greybeard players would've kept this a secret but i taught this nifty little trick to every new player i meet and it's good to see that others want to teach too!
Can I also add that if you're playing driller you can use axes to instantly open ebonuts without consuming the axe. They can also be thrown over the gas shrooms in fungus bogs, acting as a lawnmower while being able to be picked back up again afterwards
Bonus fun fact: if you begin using your pickaxe and then take a resupply without letting go of your pickaxe button, you now have a form of self defense when resupplying. It seems useless but it was saved me a few times. Also if a teammate is taking a resupply and you need it instead, power attack the resupply pod and start taking it when it falls. Only do this against friends, unless you need it super badly
Something worth mentioning is that this can be slower mining ores if done suboptimally and is only *very* slightly faster if done with perfect efficiency. Though on bugs and nuts, even very poorly done, this is still quite a bit faster, so it's totally worth doing in combat situations.
There is a downside to using this that I never see anybody mention when talking about this technique: the Born Ready perk will not reload your weapon while doing this. Born Ready requires that your weapon be inactive for 5 seconds, but by animation canceling you are resetting the timer between each pick axe swing. On the other hand, holding down the pick axe button for 5 seconds will activate Born Ready. If you think you'll be mining for a few seconds and want Born Ready to kick in, either mine the normal way or switch to a different weapon before mining.
There is another downside, and a reason why you shouldn't use this technique all of the time. When mining terrain or minerals, this technique is actually only marginally faster than regular mining, and that is assuming perfect timing on every swing. If you mess up the timing on even a single swing, you will actually lose more time than you will gain from this. And if you don't, the speed gain will still be tiny. However, the above doesn't apply when mining or attacking entities, such as enemies, lootbugs, or ebonuts. If you hit one of these, the game will apply an additional delay after the swing, and using the technique will allow you to ignore that extra delay. This is actually much faster than just holding down the button, and is well worth using in that case.
this is known by developers and is referred to as, "Q-mining", there is announcements in the rig stating it is unhealthy to do so as sort of to poke fun at the players that use it regularly
I ain't ruining my immersion in a mission for less than half a second improvement. Even if all together it make me won 20 seconds, I'm holding down the button.
Another fun fact, you can pickaxe something in the face, like an exploder, and deal face damage. Yes, crit weakness instagibs grunts, and picking the face of an exploder does indeed make it not explode.
Will you make a video about reload animation canceling? It would be beneficial for newer players to know about it too, especially shotgunner engineers since it reduces reload time quite significantly.
fun fact: in testing, when using animation canceling (what this is) on normal terrain/the air, the average for FRAME-PERFECT inputs is around only 3% faster then just holding it.
@@RE3-Nemesis you can also bury the "protect this item" items and then throw c4 on it to dig a giant crater and then have engineer cover the roof so that enemies cant get you except opressor and dreadnoughts, but you can usually kill it and patch the hole back up it is really cheesy but works excellent
I practiced on loot bugs until I got it right but for terrain and mineral mining I don't do since it's so hard to make it beneficial since its like only 3% faster and once you fuck up that 3% is now gone
Ah, so the reason pickaxing lootbugs and ebonuts is slower is because that's the melee animation. You don't "Mine" lootbugs or ebonuts, you're using melee damage to kill the lootbug or 'kill' the ebonut. You can open ebonuts faster with the Driller's.. Drills. With the damage upgrade, Barbed Drills. Axes used to be able to crack nuts open in one, but no longer.
I'll agree that this is useful for ebonuts, lootbugs, and attacking bugs, but who cares about saving .2 seconds when it comes to stuff like nitra and morkite. The normal pickaxe speed is fine in those cases imo. Besides, missing a swing slows you down enough to negate any potential time saves so I'd rather go slow and steady :p Unless an ebonut or lootbug look at me funny.
The downside is, you need really good timing, which takes a lot of practice, so for awhile, you're gonna be mining a bit slower for more effort. I would suggest practicing with this technique very often to get consistent with it. Also, buy a gaming mouse. Doesn't have to be an amazing one, but buy one that fits your grip nicely. It'll do wonders for hitting bugs and nuts. Once you get the timing down, it's second nature, and this can come in clutch when hitting smaller bugs or capitalizing on the vampire perk. If you get really good at it, you can become a tunnel rat like myself. Gunner mains in particular benefit greatly from tunneling straight up for optimal Zipline placement.
For me when i have high ping it doesn't work due to the host cuz my pick comes out twice before letting me hit again, so i resort to mining looking away then dragging back into the thing i'm hitting to hit so it hits without losing speed like if you mined terrain but doing it on ebonuts meteor fragments and such, i will say its a second option if ping doesn't allow you 🗿 rock and stone.
I did a teeny bit more digging and q-mining is _slightly_ different. It has the same general idea but this does not use the core component of q-mining (using "q" to switch weapons, therefore canceling the animation"). It's also been patched while this has not (yet, hopefully never).
This is now worse since season 2, and also for mining minerals trying to will make you be slower. Still works on melee strikes on bugs and plants but it’s noticeably slower. Video’s out of date :/
Translate right-click presses to L2 presses (or whatever your pickaxe button is). It might be a bit finicky on console, due to lag and poor computing power compared to PC, as I’ve never tried it on console. Same advice in this video should work.
@@EmperorJacoba thanks for the conversion to controller, it felt like you were using left and right click in your video so it got me really confused as to why two buttons were being pressed for one motion
Long overdue correction: *This technique is only faster when used on bugs and ebonuts, and other things that slow mining speed. In all other cases, it is about 3% faster.*
Follow me on Twitch! www.twitch.tv/emperorjacoba
I stream Deep Rock Galactic four days per week, normally hazard 5 missions!
I'm very chatty and will answer any other questions you might have about DRG. Hope to see you there!
Mine slower or mine faster with carpal tunnel syndrome
I mean atleast its not playing geometry dash. (Or hipster OC)
@@aarepelaa1142 ah yes geometry dash the guaranteed finger arthritis
i used to be a sweaty animation canceller and rhythm game addict until i had to get surgery for cts..... really had to tone down after that 🤣
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@@aarepelaa1142 😅it’s a joke but I yielded it to u
Its technically called cancelling animation, bcouse you r canceling the animation of the pickaxe when It retracts from the hit. This can also help with weapons that have a slow reload. Whenever you see the number of bullets go to full, TAP the pickaxe button and the ending part of the animation Is canceled. This does not work with all weapons.
Along with pickaxe, you can cancel reload with laser pointer too
Animation Cancelling.... Also can be used to pick axe bugs a bit faster as well specially against swarms
@@themobiusquadron yeah, Sorry for some errors, my first language isnt english
@@justachicken7392 no need to be sorry just another name for the same thing
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"there's practically no downside"
my aching fingers beg to differ 😂
but fr, good explanation short
In any other game greybeard players would've kept this a secret but i taught this nifty little trick to every new player i meet and it's good to see that others want to teach too!
Can I also add that if you're playing driller you can use axes to instantly open ebonuts without consuming the axe. They can also be thrown over the gas shrooms in fungus bogs, acting as a lawnmower while being able to be picked back up again afterwards
Bonus fun fact: if you begin using your pickaxe and then take a resupply without letting go of your pickaxe button, you now have a form of self defense when resupplying. It seems useless but it was saved me a few times. Also if a teammate is taking a resupply and you need it instead, power attack the resupply pod and start taking it when it falls. Only do this against friends, unless you need it super badly
Driller mains: We domt have such a weakness.
Something worth mentioning is that this can be slower mining ores if done suboptimally and is only *very* slightly faster if done with perfect efficiency.
Though on bugs and nuts, even very poorly done, this is still quite a bit faster, so it's totally worth doing in combat situations.
If anyone cares about the numbers, if I remember correctly, mining ores is 3% faster if done perfectly, and mining bugs is something like 27% faster.
Also great for taking out naedocytes and swarmers
*Dwarf roleplay *
"How to mine faster?... See... For..."
The fact you actually showed it on the mouse is incredible... Earned a sub!
this is the best content I’ve seen for deep rock yet. props for setting up these short format videos so straight forward and concise. 🙏🏻
Season 2 update screwed this up on high ping games , weapon swap lags a bit so it doesnt work at all at 130+ ping :/
I figured this out myself but yea its really usefull and more players should know bout it so ty for this vid
“There’s practically no downside”
Carpal tunnel syndrome would disagree
There is a downside to using this that I never see anybody mention when talking about this technique: the Born Ready perk will not reload your weapon while doing this.
Born Ready requires that your weapon be inactive for 5 seconds, but by animation canceling you are resetting the timer between each pick axe swing. On the other hand, holding down the pick axe button for 5 seconds will activate Born Ready.
If you think you'll be mining for a few seconds and want Born Ready to kick in, either mine the normal way or switch to a different weapon before mining.
There is another downside, and a reason why you shouldn't use this technique all of the time.
When mining terrain or minerals, this technique is actually only marginally faster than regular mining, and that is assuming perfect timing on every swing. If you mess up the timing on even a single swing, you will actually lose more time than you will gain from this. And if you don't, the speed gain will still be tiny.
However, the above doesn't apply when mining or attacking entities, such as enemies, lootbugs, or ebonuts. If you hit one of these, the game will apply an additional delay after the swing, and using the technique will allow you to ignore that extra delay. This is actually much faster than just holding down the button, and is well worth using in that case.
I use it on controller but yea it helps for mining
Effectively you reload cancel your pickaxe. Rock and stone.
I honestly just hold down because i like watching the animations :3 feels like im appreciating the animatiors hard work everytime i use it~
First time I started playing DRG I noticed this, I figured out I could frame cancel it and now its second nature
this is known by developers and is referred to as, "Q-mining", there is announcements in the rig stating it is unhealthy to do so as sort of to poke fun at the players that use it regularly
The new update this looks somehow more graphically advanced
Ty for this guide! I was wondering how to do this
I ain't ruining my immersion in a mission for less than half a second improvement.
Even if all together it make me won 20 seconds, I'm holding down the
button.
Another fun fact, you can pickaxe something in the face, like an exploder, and deal face damage. Yes, crit weakness instagibs grunts, and picking the face of an exploder does indeed make it not explode.
Will you make a video about reload animation canceling? It would be beneficial for newer players to know about it too, especially shotgunner engineers since it reduces reload time quite significantly.
Back in my day, it was called animation canceling
Also the pickaxe damage brew will make enor Perls be 2 hit.
Mans just wanted to show off his mouse.
fun fact: in testing, when using animation canceling (what this is) on normal terrain/the air, the average for FRAME-PERFECT inputs is around only 3% faster then just holding it.
Step 1. Play driller
Step 2. Dig to drop pod
@@RE3-Nemesis you can also bury the "protect this item" items and then throw c4 on it to dig a giant crater and then have engineer cover the roof so that enemies cant get you except opressor and dreadnoughts, but you can usually kill it and patch the hole back up it is really cheesy but works excellent
Me on PlayStation: wonder if the technique works here too
Yeah if there’s one thing I’ve found out about this game, animation cancelling is a core mechanic
The downside is that if you miss the timing, it can be slower.
rest in peace qmining
Okay I get it. Kind of like how some people are able to turn a single-shot 9 mm in call of duty into a Full Auto without modifications
This is the easiest animation cancel I've seen in any game so far
Thank you!
I think i was just starting to figure this out
I practiced on loot bugs until I got it right but for terrain and mineral mining I don't do since it's so hard to make it beneficial since its like only 3% faster and once you fuck up that 3% is now gone
It's called animation cancelling, every good scout knows and uses it ;)
Im a simple man, i watch how people use simple "exploits," dont judge them, and move on with my rocking and stoning
The only problem is im so used to right click to animation cancel that i try to right click in other games
It’s significantly slower when lagging tho at all. Because it makes you put back your pickaxe first than it takes it out
Ah, so the reason pickaxing lootbugs and ebonuts is slower is because that's the melee animation. You don't "Mine" lootbugs or ebonuts, you're using melee damage to kill the lootbug or 'kill' the ebonut.
You can open ebonuts faster with the Driller's.. Drills. With the damage upgrade, Barbed Drills. Axes used to be able to crack nuts open in one, but no longer.
Or just use the power attack
holy shit this is so useful
I would never harm a lootbug
I'll agree that this is useful for ebonuts, lootbugs, and attacking bugs, but who cares about saving .2 seconds when it comes to stuff like nitra and morkite. The normal pickaxe speed is fine in those cases imo. Besides, missing a swing slows you down enough to negate any potential time saves so I'd rather go slow and steady :p Unless an ebonut or lootbug look at me funny.
I always just power attack the ebonuts
Oh damn im something like account lvl 555 and didnt know that. Sweet.
Alternative, power attack
These are good you should be popular
The downside is, you need really good timing, which takes a lot of practice, so for awhile, you're gonna be mining a bit slower for more effort.
I would suggest practicing with this technique very often to get consistent with it. Also, buy a gaming mouse. Doesn't have to be an amazing one, but buy one that fits your grip nicely.
It'll do wonders for hitting bugs and nuts. Once you get the timing down, it's second nature, and this can come in clutch when hitting smaller bugs or capitalizing on the vampire perk.
If you get really good at it, you can become a tunnel rat like myself. Gunner mains in particular benefit greatly from tunneling straight up for optimal Zipline placement.
Now make your internet good enough to use that multiplayer
Rock and stone
I used to do this by accident, but stopped because it got annoying for me.
For me when i have high ping it doesn't work due to the host cuz my pick comes out twice before letting me hit again, so i resort to mining looking away then dragging back into the thing i'm hitting to hit so it hits without losing speed like if you mined terrain but doing it on ebonuts meteor fragments and such, i will say its a second option if ping doesn't allow you 🗿 rock and stone.
It's just animation cancelling man lmao
Great tip
This is nick-named Q-mining and you used to be able to do it way faster before it was patched.
Nooooo I didn't wanted to know that
I was gonna say just play driller but ok
Stone
Nice T-Wolf mouse
As you see its very beneficial... like 0.25 seconds lol
Why do I seem to not fire my M100 as fast as TH-camrs? I’m on console does that have anything to do with it?
You're doing what's called by the community calls "Q mining"
I did a teeny bit more digging and q-mining is _slightly_ different. It has the same general idea but this does not use the core component of q-mining (using "q" to switch weapons, therefore canceling the animation"). It's also been patched while this has not (yet, hopefully never).
Lol. That's not Q mining. Q mining is different. Also Q mining isnt as good as it used to be.
Hey! He has the same mouse as me! Neat!
thanks!
kinda random but we got the same mouse chief
I started doing this on second ebonut cuz I already did this to those bugs with ore
I think I have that exact mouse. T7?
I hate animation cancel in games so i will never use it because iy was NOT intended to be like that.
BTW, this does not work with lag
Do this on enemies too.
Ye this actually seems faster, but in reality its the same speed
400 hours and i dont use this sh*t, to many moves for so small profit.
This trick working good on reload animation,thats where it needed most
This is now worse since season 2, and also for mining minerals trying to will make you be slower. Still works on melee strikes on bugs and plants but it’s noticeably slower.
Video’s out of date :/
I only use this for ebonuts and lootbugs. Anything else is just sweaty
I'm too lazy though.
Are you using the bloody mouse
Is this game a bug killing sim, a game people spend thousands of hours on or a mining sim
L2+R2/M2+M1
That my mouse
Is that a tdagger mouse?
It's almost unnoticeable. There's no point. Why penguin man? Why have you lied to me?
Corprate says this makes you blind.
Or use your power attack it oneshota both
Uhh... you know you can just Power Hit it right?
power attacks have a cooldown, it’s not always available
What do you do with all the extra time you've saved?
Is this a thing on console?
Does this work for console as well?
Yes
It's possible but extremely difficult on controller
how does this work on controller as I play on ps4
Translate right-click presses to L2 presses (or whatever your pickaxe button is). It might be a bit finicky on console, due to lag and poor computing power compared to PC, as I’ve never tried it on console. Same advice in this video should work.
@@EmperorJacoba thanks for the conversion to controller, it felt like you were using left and right click in your video so it got me really confused as to why two buttons were being pressed for one motion
Or have the upgrade/driller
I don’t think it works on controller though
It should, just translate mouse clicks to RT/L2 (am i getting that right?) button presses. Lag on consoles might foil this strategy though
Nice
Works on controllers to
Oh wow