🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:11 *📅 Vitamin C discussion introduced as a long-awaited topic on the channel.* 01:11 *📉 Vitamin C's popularity is currently at a low point.* 01:23 *🌟 Vitamin C is essential for skin and body health.* 02:06 *🔍 Ascorbic acid is the most common and studied form of Vitamin C.* 02:35 *🛡️ Vitamin C is a potent antioxidant, protecting against oxidative damage.* 02:48 *📉 Helps with photoaging and hyperpigmentation.* 03:45 *🍊 Oral intake of Vitamin C does not significantly affect skin health.* 04:28 *💧 Topical Vitamin C is more effective for skin benefits.* 05:25 *⚠️ Pure Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) can be irritating and difficult to stabilize.* 06:06 *🔬 Low pH needed for Vitamin C absorption can cause skin irritation.* 06:50 *🧪 Stabilizers like Vitamin E and ferulic acid enhance Vitamin C efficacy.* 07:33 *📊 Different Vitamin C derivatives offer varied benefits and stability.* 08:15 *💡 Sodium ascorbyl phosphate is a stable, budget-friendly option.* 09:10 *🏥 Potential benefits of Sodium ascorbyl phosphate for acne discussed.* 10:33 *🌐 3-O-Ethyl ascorbic acid is well-studied and highly effective.* 11:45 *🔄 Vitamin C derivatives must convert to pure Vitamin C to be active.* 12:42 *🧴 Personal anecdote on the stability of 3-O-Ethyl ascorbic acid.* 13:10 *🧪 THD ascorbate is promising but less studied.* 14:21 *👎 Magnesium ascorbyl phosphate is least effective among derivatives.* 14:48 *🏆 L-ascorbic acid is the most researched and effective form of Vitamin C.* 15:42 *🔬 L-ascorbic acid needs a low pH and stabilizers for effectiveness.* 17:05 *📊 Cosmetic studies often have smaller sample sizes compared to medical research.* 18:15 *📏 Optimal concentration of L-ascorbic acid is 8-20%.* 18:30 *❌ Iodine test for Vitamin C effectiveness is irrelevant to skin absorption.* 20:09 *🎭 Petri dish tests for Vitamin C are good marketing but not relevant for skincare efficacy.* 20:23 *🌞 Using Vitamin C in the morning enhances antioxidant protection with sunscreen.* 21:04 *🌜 Night use can maximize benefits for tone, collagen, and texture.* 21:18 *🌙 Mixing Vitamin C with retinol at night may cause irritation.* 21:46 *⚛️ Avoid mixing Vitamin C with oxidants like benzoyl peroxide or copper.* 22:14 *⏳ Let Vitamin C products set before applying other ingredients.* 23:11 *📋 Favorite Vitamin C products: SkinCeuticals C E Ferulic is highly praised.* 23:51 *🚫 Some users experience irritation with SkinCeuticals C E Ferulic.* 24:06 *🌭 Vitamin C products can have a strong smell, described variably as bread or hot dog water.* 24:28 *💡 SkinCeuticals' Phloretin CF is an alternative for those with irritation.* 25:41 *💰 Psychology of pricing affects perceptions of product efficacy.* 26:37 *🏆 Dermatology Vitamin C E Ferulic is a recommended dupe for SkinCeuticals.* 28:04 *🧪 Drunk Elephant's C-Firma requires mixing before use for freshness.* 29:11 *🏴☠️ Drunk Elephant faced a lawsuit from SkinCeuticals for patent infringement.* 30:06 *🔄 Mixing products yourself can ensure freshness but may be cumbersome.* 30:50 *🎨 Paula's Choice C15 Booster reformulated to reduce irritation.* 31:57 *✈️ Neutrogena capsules offer a travel-friendly, stable form of Vitamin C.* 32:52 *🏴☠️ La Roche-Posay Vitamin C serum criticized for fragrance and alcohol content.* 33:50 *🚫 L'Oréal Paris Vitamin C gets a pass despite fragrance due to unique formulation.* 34:46 *🌿 Medik8's Super C Ferulic uses 3-O-Ethyl ascorbic acid, offering stability.* 36:52 *🧴 Naturium's Vitamin C serum combines multiple Vitamin C types for unique benefits.* 37:46 *👍 Vitamin C is appropriately hyped, offering various skin benefits for the right user.* Made with HARPA AI
Skinceuticals’s patent for their Vitamin C E Fe formulation is set to expire March 24, 2025. In about 3-4 months, other companies will be able to make and sell the same formulation which will lower cost!
I agree! I found the detail about the difference between the body of research in the cosmetic space vs. the rest of the medical world very important information to be aware of. Thank you. Drs. Maxfield and Shah! 😊
It was a very long video, but Imwatched it while I was painting my bathroom so I could listen, and only looked when there was a product that appealed to me.😊
It’s like you read my mind. I was doing a little research on Vitamin C and its benefits, whether I should include in my Skincare routine. Then, the doctors I trust uploads 😍
Not specific to this video, but I've binged hours of your content over the past few months. I've learned so much, am about 3 months into tretinoin and feel like I have the best skin of my life at 41 years old. Thank you for doing all of this work ❤
I just turned 41 and same! I've now been using Tretinoin about 9 months. After 3 months I saw huge results like you do, but it keeps getting better over time.
@@lukastembergerwere you using a retinol before? Wanting to try Tret but I’ve barely started using retinol and wondering if I should try it first for a specific amount of time because I have sensitive skin (rosacea).
I'm disappointed that it was left out. I've gone through several bottles and it's amazing. The price point makes it accessible for more people, as well.
I love Maelove! I use glow maker and their moonlight (retinal) serum. I have dermatologist diagnosed roseaca and neither serum irritates my sensitive skin.
I LOVE when you two are together. I love the scientific talk and the way you interact and this topic in particular. Thank you for bringing the science.
@@abiwav Try PREQUEL Vitamnin C. Amazing!!! I used Timeless for so many years. Always irritated my skin. PREQUEL is very affordable. I paid $25.00 for it.
I didn’t like Timeless C - dispenser leaks and they use propanadiol which makes the formula greasy/tacky. Solid formulation of active but packaging is sorely lacking.
Another great Vitamin C product that is taking the market by storm is a European brand, Geek & Gorgeous 15% C E Ferulic. Its made fresh every week so its not sitting about in a warehouse oxidizing! Ive been using it for a few years now and its absolutely fabulous. Made in Hungary and is cheap as chips!
I found the detail about the difference between the body of research in the cosmetic space vs. the rest of the medical world very important information to be aware of. Thank you. Drs. Maxfield and Shah! 😊
The Geek & Gorgeous vitamin c has worked really well for me with no irritation. I try to protect the bottle from sunlight but it still has a tinge of color by the time I’m half through the bottle. I also like it because it doesn’t have the ‘hot dog’ smell. I’d love to find a similar product in an air tight container.
Just FYI Beauty of Joseon product called Light On Serum : Centella + Vita C has 3-O-Ethyl Ascorbic Acid 10%. Not irritating at all. I love it and try to use it every single morning. It's very affordable at $17 at 1 fl ounce.
wow, the timeliest video of all times! Literally was sitting and trying to choose a vit C product to purchase. My last 2 attempts were a fail as both products gave me irritation. Jumping to watch right now!
Well, I must say I loved this video!!! I always had trouble chosing a vit C and now I'm much more informed!!! Thank you. Sadly a lot of your suggestions are not available in Portugal but even so now I already know what to buy!!!!😊
Thank you for including Timeless Vitamin C at the end of your video, as I've noticed a HUGE brightening effect since I incorporated this product into my skincare regimen, which includes moisturizer, sunscreen and Tretinoin at night. I'm also a big fan of Korean skincare and since I've been using Korean sunscreens and moisturizers, I've noticed a world of difference! I'm surprised at how affordable they are, too! You two are wonderful and thank you for the informative content!
The Geek and Gorgeous 15% Vit C serum is great value for money and, Judit, the brand owner, makes it in small fresh batches so whenever you order it you get a bottle from a fresh 'brew'!!!! It is so reasonably priced and the brand in general have really great products.
Same here!! I’ve tried a bunch from other brands and they either felt way too oily, gritty, or just irritated my skin. But the prequel one is legit amazing! I love mixing it with that Jumiso snail peptide essence and it’s awesome 🤩
Appropriately hyped it is! Thank you for this long informative video and the clarifications and product suggestions. I wish I watched this before I wasted money on all La Roche Posay's vitamin C serums. I got all their serums but the vitamin C really irritates my skin.
I have been being treated for KP for the last 2 years. I was told that the corkscrew hairs that are on my tummy and legs were from KP. I am so thankful for you. It is no wonder there has been little to no improvement. *sigh* I am going to rewatch this again and review the materials. All this time I needed Vitamin C in and on my body!
Loved this long video - watched it on x2 and made notes. I am ordering my vitamin c right now! I ran out a couple of weeks ago and can see the difference in the lack of brightness in my skin
I’ve been using the Timeless 20% L-ascorbic acid for almost 2 years religiously, and it’s a holy grail 🎉💗 and I have SENSITIVE + rosacea prone skin ♥️ ALSO did you hear about the class action LAWSUIT against Paula’s choice for lying about their cruelty free status? If that is proven true, I cannot and will not support them going forward. I, myself, only use cruelty-free skincare- but to LIE about it? No thank you! I’ll need a Doctorly “Unhinged” episode on the lawsuit ^ 😅🙏🏻 ❤ AMAZING video as always! LOVE YOU GUYS 💗
I hear you - I was super high on Drunk Elephant products when they first came out (their C-Firma was not a fave) but then she sold to Shiseido which is NOT a cruelty free brand, soooo....hypocrite much?! I kinda lost respect for the brand after that...
Timeless was extremely effective for me at helping to address hyperpigmentation in a short amount of time but the key was when I applied it and how long I let it sit for. The optimal order of operations was: 1. Cleanse (wait 30-60s) 2. Tone (wait 60s) 3. Timeless vitamin C 20% (wait 10 minutes after applying ) 4. Niacinamide 10% (wait 2 mins) When I used Timeless in the last step it seemed to have little to no effect on my skin. Yes I experienced irritation with it but skin peeling and dryness was a worthy tradeoff to dark spots and could be managed by dialing back Retin-A Microgel from 0.1% to 0.4% and lower frequency of Paula's Choice BHA. I hope this helps someone in need!
Love that you broke down the iodine test. It's so easy to buy into stuff like that when you don't know how it works and its very disingenuous of companies to market that way.
I've been using The Ordinary Ascorbic Acid with Alpha Arbutin for more than 6 months now and my face incredibly improved!!! Uses the serum at night then sunblock in the morning. 😊 No more small bumps, texture, smooth as!!
Thank you for such a thorough review of Vitamin C types, ingredients, percentages etc…. I personally use Timeless at 20%. They also have it at 10%. It has made a significant improvement in the hyperpigmentation of my forearms due to sun damage. Timeless is one of the less costly of L. ascorbic acid. Nice that it also has férulic acid and vit EI do not have sensitive skin and my face is showing some improvement of hyperpigmentation spots due to acne. It took about two months but definitely worth the time and effort of wearing it daily in the morning only.
Outstanding discussion and review of all things vitamin C. Loved that you both enjoyed geeking out on this important ingredient. I have been using the Timeless 20% for over 5 years and have had zero problems with it.
I actually got asked what I did to my skin because they said it looked really good. I added Prequel vitamin c. I have rosacea and melasma and I tolerate it well.
Great video! By the time I got to the end, I was shocked to see it was over 40 minutes cause it didn't feel like it at all. And please keep the bloopers coming! 😬
Thanks for the comparison on cosmetic vs CV etc studies. As a physician, I often write off cosmetic study results because of those differences. Thanks for the perspective!
I made it all the way through the video. Fortunately, you guys are nice to look at and entertaining 😊 My only comment would be is a lot of us can't afford something that's even $50 on top of everything else. So in the future if you could include more quality products that are less expensive that would be fabulous
The long awaited vitamin c video!✨ i still use it daily to compliment my spf, but personally find other ingredients better for my post inflammatory hyper pigmentation (like remedy for dark spots ;)
I have been using Timeless 10% L-Asornic E and F serum. I have very sensitive skin and avoided vitamin C for years. I have been very pleased with this product. I may try Paul’s choice 15% next.
7:05 Haha Dr Maxfield looks so proud, his laughter, it's adorable, and Dr Shah joining in. Their happiness and enthusiasm is contagious 🌻 I was on the fence for Vitamin C, I'm gonna buy it now 🍊
@roseberr1es, me too! I'm so happy that I found them! My face looks healthy, and I'm beginning to get my "glow" back!!! They got me on board with their over-50-night route... They are so knowledgeable, but they express it so enthusiastically that it is alluring and exciting! I'm gonna try vitamin C, and like you, I was really on the fence...
Wonderful, love all the information. I don't just want products recommended to me I want the ingredient details, how it works, what works best and what works for my combo sensitive skin. Worth the time to watch this whole video.
i will say the remedy dark spots tx made my skincare routine way too easy 😂 i use it and i feel like im missing so many steps but i know i got them all in 1 product. im loving it but still getting used to streamlining my skincare routine lol
For the latinamerican girlies, we have the MARIO BADESCU VITAMIN C, I looove it, no irritation, no fragrance, it has 2 forms of vitamin C that the doctors approved in this video, great price point for the quantity and quality, super stable, it has never turnt brown for me, it has always stayed crystal clear, and I love the oily texture that inmediately absorbs into the skin, I like it oily cause I live in a dry weather so it feels good and moisturizing!! 100% recommend it!!
Well FINALLY you mention my favorite C+E+ferulic acid product, Timeless! Why pay more? My skin likes it; I can even use it on my eyelids around my sensitive eyes.
Timeless C E Ferulic comes in a airless pump now and that makes a big difference in terms of stability. In fact it takes much longer to turn orange-brown than the Skinceutics product
I tried and tried, but I couldn't get past the horrible smell. Nausea every single time. My current a.m. serum is Cetaphil Healthy Renew with peptides. Really loving it.
@kerrycork58 Interesting because I've never noticed that it has any odor although suppose it does have some. It's not an added scent; probably just what the ingredients smell like. Going to look until your Cetaphil product because want to try some peptides.
YES!!!!! Thank you Doctors for finally doing a video on VITAMIN C!!! I use exponent beauty. I comes in powder form and when your ready to use it you mix it with Hyronic acid that u purchase with the vitamin C powder.
@@tiggernix I keep the lid on tight & in a drawer, but it does go orange by the time I’m 3/4 done. L’Oréal claims that the formula is highly stable & still potent & effective even if it darkens, but I haven’t seen evidence to support that. I’d like to get a pump for my next bottle, it would at least help with the exposure to air, I hate the droppers.
Hot and flashy did a ph test on this one with others but L’Oréal came in green with a high PH , it was awful! It’s supposed to be in the yellowish orange range and it was way off. I wouldn’t recommend!
@@cleopatra72 From what I understand, the SA helps the Vit C to penetrate deeper, so while it has a higher pH, it’s effective while being less irritating than a lower pH formula. I have eczema prone/sensitive skin & it’s never caused me any issues, but has worked beautifully.
I am going to keep pestering you to please do a segment skin care for people taking immunusuppressant drugs, particularly for lifetime. My skin changed dramatically immediately upon transplant, and mean while I was still in the hospital. I've had to reorganize my entire routine due to new concerns. tis include squamous cell cancers emerging, discolored skin around eyelids, wrinkles out of no where. Aged 10 years overnight! i have learned so much from your platform. Please think of us who are trying to make the best out of this new phase of our skin's life.
sorry to hear about your health situations, I did read a book Savef Skin on AMAZON and it mentioned about drugs and skincare, it is a helpful read I found.
For anyone on the fence about spending money on Vitamin C products: I recently had an experience that really justified its place in my budget and cosmetics cabinet. Early last month, my skin reacted to something overnight (still not sure what) that materialized as a cluster of hyperpigmented spots on the core of my hand. Saw a derm who told me it was essentially a rash or hives that has now calmed and set as hyperpigmentation, but because the pigmentation is so shallow (unlike sun spots for example), it will naturally fade so “don’t fret over it”. A month later, the pigmentation was still there and it really bothered me, so I began using the vitamin C serum that I use on my face on that part of my hand at night. In 2 weeks, the spots have now faded! I was flabbergasted because topical skincare was just something I bought into feeling it was better than nothing, even though I never noticed any dramatic changes in my skin. Might still be true for other ingredients but I saw vitamin C work for me, so for anyone with pigmentation I think it’s worth looking into! The pigmentation on your face is likely deposited much deeper than what I had on my hand, but keep playing the long game with vitamin C, sunscreen, and whatever else you use and I think you’ll see improvements!
I didn’t believe it until I tried it. Now, I’m hooked 🤷🏽♂️ for me, it addressed skin dullness and it gives an inner glow. The one I use is a face mask which I use at night.
This is the reason I love long form video, thank you so much, Dr. Maxfield and Dr. Shah! I love hearing about studies and all the nuance you both share. I've been using the Maelove glow maker vitamin c and like it - no irritation and I do think it has a brightening effect.
Thoughts on Ascorbyl Glucoside? Dr. Maxfield mentions it for the briefest second when talking about Numbuzin and it seems to be in some of the newer Vitamin C products. Would love to hear your opinions on Ascorbyl Glucoside as a stable but similarly effective Vitamin C derivative!
I just watched a video On hyaluronic acid. I use SkinCeuticals which Is extremely expensive. It does not Go down2The epidermis It only goes It only goes to the dermis. No good
Dear, most cosmetic and cosmeceutical products don't go down to the dermis (deep living skin). The products we use in skin care are used to treat the the health of the epidermis (upper layer) hyaluronic acid is used to keep the outer levels hydrated.
The Ordinary 's pure L-Ascorbic acid powder mixed with 3-4 drops of Reservatrol with Ferulic acid (also from the ordinary) is my go to product and much more affordable.
Vitamin C + sunscreen a must in my morning routine for sun protection. Every day rain, shine, no matter what
Same thing 😊
Is it ok to use it on winter too?
@@luisnavarro9763yes winter too
@@luisnavarro9763I use it all year.
@@luisnavarro9763 for me absolutely. Needed it depends on what you are doing
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:11 *📅 Vitamin C discussion introduced as a long-awaited topic on the channel.*
01:11 *📉 Vitamin C's popularity is currently at a low point.*
01:23 *🌟 Vitamin C is essential for skin and body health.*
02:06 *🔍 Ascorbic acid is the most common and studied form of Vitamin C.*
02:35 *🛡️ Vitamin C is a potent antioxidant, protecting against oxidative damage.*
02:48 *📉 Helps with photoaging and hyperpigmentation.*
03:45 *🍊 Oral intake of Vitamin C does not significantly affect skin health.*
04:28 *💧 Topical Vitamin C is more effective for skin benefits.*
05:25 *⚠️ Pure Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) can be irritating and difficult to stabilize.*
06:06 *🔬 Low pH needed for Vitamin C absorption can cause skin irritation.*
06:50 *🧪 Stabilizers like Vitamin E and ferulic acid enhance Vitamin C efficacy.*
07:33 *📊 Different Vitamin C derivatives offer varied benefits and stability.*
08:15 *💡 Sodium ascorbyl phosphate is a stable, budget-friendly option.*
09:10 *🏥 Potential benefits of Sodium ascorbyl phosphate for acne discussed.*
10:33 *🌐 3-O-Ethyl ascorbic acid is well-studied and highly effective.*
11:45 *🔄 Vitamin C derivatives must convert to pure Vitamin C to be active.*
12:42 *🧴 Personal anecdote on the stability of 3-O-Ethyl ascorbic acid.*
13:10 *🧪 THD ascorbate is promising but less studied.*
14:21 *👎 Magnesium ascorbyl phosphate is least effective among derivatives.*
14:48 *🏆 L-ascorbic acid is the most researched and effective form of Vitamin C.*
15:42 *🔬 L-ascorbic acid needs a low pH and stabilizers for effectiveness.*
17:05 *📊 Cosmetic studies often have smaller sample sizes compared to medical research.*
18:15 *📏 Optimal concentration of L-ascorbic acid is 8-20%.*
18:30 *❌ Iodine test for Vitamin C effectiveness is irrelevant to skin absorption.*
20:09 *🎭 Petri dish tests for Vitamin C are good marketing but not relevant for skincare efficacy.*
20:23 *🌞 Using Vitamin C in the morning enhances antioxidant protection with sunscreen.*
21:04 *🌜 Night use can maximize benefits for tone, collagen, and texture.*
21:18 *🌙 Mixing Vitamin C with retinol at night may cause irritation.*
21:46 *⚛️ Avoid mixing Vitamin C with oxidants like benzoyl peroxide or copper.*
22:14 *⏳ Let Vitamin C products set before applying other ingredients.*
23:11 *📋 Favorite Vitamin C products: SkinCeuticals C E Ferulic is highly praised.*
23:51 *🚫 Some users experience irritation with SkinCeuticals C E Ferulic.*
24:06 *🌭 Vitamin C products can have a strong smell, described variably as bread or hot dog water.*
24:28 *💡 SkinCeuticals' Phloretin CF is an alternative for those with irritation.*
25:41 *💰 Psychology of pricing affects perceptions of product efficacy.*
26:37 *🏆 Dermatology Vitamin C E Ferulic is a recommended dupe for SkinCeuticals.*
28:04 *🧪 Drunk Elephant's C-Firma requires mixing before use for freshness.*
29:11 *🏴☠️ Drunk Elephant faced a lawsuit from SkinCeuticals for patent infringement.*
30:06 *🔄 Mixing products yourself can ensure freshness but may be cumbersome.*
30:50 *🎨 Paula's Choice C15 Booster reformulated to reduce irritation.*
31:57 *✈️ Neutrogena capsules offer a travel-friendly, stable form of Vitamin C.*
32:52 *🏴☠️ La Roche-Posay Vitamin C serum criticized for fragrance and alcohol content.*
33:50 *🚫 L'Oréal Paris Vitamin C gets a pass despite fragrance due to unique formulation.*
34:46 *🌿 Medik8's Super C Ferulic uses 3-O-Ethyl ascorbic acid, offering stability.*
36:52 *🧴 Naturium's Vitamin C serum combines multiple Vitamin C types for unique benefits.*
37:46 *👍 Vitamin C is appropriately hyped, offering various skin benefits for the right user.*
Made with HARPA AI
36:52 mentions Numbuzin, not Naturium
Wow
Doing the Lord's work here. Thank you
Love love love
Thanks for your excellent work. Really time saving!!!😍
Skinceuticals’s patent for their Vitamin C E Fe formulation is set to expire March 24, 2025. In about 3-4 months, other companies will be able to make and sell the same formulation which will lower cost!
I had no idea that it was patented! Thank you so much!
omg you are amazing!!!!!! thanks for letting us know!!!
Very interesting. So in other words, other companies will be able to replicate their formula at a fraction of the cost🤔😊
I didn’t realize the length of this video until Dr. Shah commented about it. Wow - it didn’t feel like a long video! Lots of great info. Thank you!!!
didn't realize either till I read your comment!
I agree! I found the detail about the difference between the body of research in the cosmetic space vs. the rest of the medical world very important information to be aware of. Thank you. Drs. Maxfield and Shah! 😊
Agree!!
It was a very long video, but Imwatched it while I was painting my bathroom so I could listen, and only looked when there was a product that appealed to me.😊
It’s like you read my mind. I was doing a little research on Vitamin C and its benefits, whether I should include in my Skincare routine. Then, the doctors I trust uploads 😍
My friend swears by the beauty counter one. It's at ulta.. I just ordered it. Her skin looks great and she turned 60. Pricey though.
Haha I did the same thing about vitamin C and found this one too.
I had very acne prone skin and vitamin C moisturizer was the first one I ever used that didn’t cause me to break out.
I loveee how they attentively listen to each other while actually looking at each other . Love the humility
Definitely Surprised you only mentioned Timeless in passing not only affordable but Definitely a Quality product at both percentages and no Dropper 👏👏
Not specific to this video, but I've binged hours of your content over the past few months. I've learned so much, am about 3 months into tretinoin and feel like I have the best skin of my life at 41 years old. Thank you for doing all of this work ❤
I just turned 41 and same! I've now been using Tretinoin about 9 months. After 3 months I saw huge results like you do, but it keeps getting better over time.
@@lukastembergerwere you using a retinol before? Wanting to try Tret but I’ve barely started using retinol and wondering if I should try it first for a specific amount of time because I have sensitive skin (rosacea).
I love Maelove glow maker (vitamin C). I’m surprised you don’t cover Maelove more on this channel. Great video though! 🌺 Karen
I've heard a lot of people talk about this brand. I was hoping they would cover it.
I'm disappointed that it was left out. I've gone through several bottles and it's amazing. The price point makes it accessible for more people, as well.
I love Maelove! I use glow maker and their moonlight (retinal) serum. I have dermatologist diagnosed roseaca and neither serum irritates my sensitive skin.
I LOVE when you two are together. I love the scientific talk and the way you interact and this topic in particular. Thank you for bringing the science.
I'm kind of surprised you only mentioned timeless in passing.. it's amazing and one of the cheapest pure vitamin C
I broke out badly because of the timeless vit c and the pigmentation still last over the year
@@abiwav Try PREQUEL Vitamnin C. Amazing!!! I used Timeless for so many years. Always irritated my skin. PREQUEL is very affordable. I paid $25.00 for it.
Try PREQUEL Vitamnin C. Amazing!!! I used Timeless for so many years. Always irritated my skin. PREQUEL is very affordable. I paid $25.00 for it.
I didn’t like Timeless C - dispenser leaks and they use propanadiol which makes the formula greasy/tacky. Solid formulation of active but packaging is sorely lacking.
Me either. Stratia so far is only one that does not irritate me
Another great Vitamin C product that is taking the market by storm is a European brand, Geek & Gorgeous 15% C E Ferulic. Its made fresh every week so its not sitting about in a warehouse oxidizing! Ive been using it for a few years now and its absolutely fabulous. Made in Hungary and is cheap as chips!
Where can I order it from since I live here in America??
I found the detail about the difference between the body of research in the cosmetic space vs. the rest of the medical world very important information to be aware of. Thank you. Drs. Maxfield and Shah! 😊
The Geek & Gorgeous vitamin c has worked really well for me with no irritation. I try to protect the bottle from sunlight but it still has a tinge of color by the time I’m half through the bottle. I also like it because it doesn’t have the ‘hot dog’ smell. I’d love to find a similar product in an air tight container.
Try putting in fridge ❤❤❤❤
I do and it lasts for months , I was amazed❤❤❤
Yes, I keep it in the fridge! As new after 5 month still
I picked up the extra bottle from G&G. I decant some into the extra bottle. The rest of the product is kept in the fridge.
I came here to say G&G!! I love it but strangely I DO get the hot dog water smell from it. I wonder if that’s person-dependent.
I’ve heard good things about the Benton Vitamin C, but that it’s a bit heavy so better used at night
Just FYI Beauty of Joseon product called Light On Serum : Centella + Vita C has 3-O-Ethyl Ascorbic Acid 10%. Not irritating at all. I love it and try to use it every single morning. It's very affordable at $17 at 1 fl ounce.
Thanks, didn’t realize BOJ made a vitamin C product.
I just started using this, I haven't used it long enough to see effects, but I absolutely love the texture.
Been using Timeless for years love it!!😊
is 10% better or 20%?
@@Juss16920% is a higher concentration
Guys, I rode with you on every second of this video. Just wonderful.
Timeless airless colorless bottle withe vitamin E and Ferulic is at the correct Ph, affordable and works great!
Timeless is an amazing product. I’ve had great results with it.
I’m on bottle 4!
Where do they sell it?
@@magpie9838 their own website and iherb!
wow, the timeliest video of all times! Literally was sitting and trying to choose a vit C product to purchase. My last 2 attempts were a fail as both products gave me irritation. Jumping to watch right now!
My friend swears by the beauty counter one. It's at ulta..
Well, I must say I loved this video!!! I always had trouble chosing a vit C and now I'm much more informed!!! Thank you. Sadly a lot of your suggestions are not available in Portugal but even so now I already know what to buy!!!!😊
Same! lol
Love my timeless Vit C 20% . I saw my results very fast.
How long does it last
Paula’s choice has a new 25% vitamin C serum that I LOVE. My skin is radiant af
No comparison with the timeless one. I love Paula’s choice
Thank you for including Timeless Vitamin C at the end of your video, as I've noticed a HUGE brightening effect since I incorporated this product into my skincare regimen, which includes moisturizer, sunscreen and Tretinoin at night. I'm also a big fan of Korean skincare and since I've been using Korean sunscreens and moisturizers, I've noticed a world of difference! I'm surprised at how affordable they are, too!
You two are wonderful and thank you for the informative content!
Could u share K brand sunscreen and moisturizer you use?
recc some K brands please!
Where do you buy the Korean brands you like?
Timeless Vit C is one of my multiple purchase products. Another good Vit C is made by Stratia C+C Serum
The Geek and Gorgeous 15% Vit C serum is great value for money and, Judit, the brand owner, makes it in small fresh batches so whenever you order it you get a bottle from a fresh 'brew'!!!! It is so reasonably priced and the brand in general have really great products.
You two are great. I trust you and the information you provide. Thank you from a whole lot of us.
I love the smell of Vitamin C serum (L-ascorbic). It reminds me Summer. I think it smells like skin after lying in the Sun🌞
I’ve tried so many brands and types of vitamin C over the last 6 years but nothing has given me results like Tranexamic acid 🤩 I’ll never give it up
I agree but they do completely different things
what brand of tranexamic acid do you use?
So pleased you mentioned Medik8 as it's my fave.
I thought for sure you guys were going to mention Prequel’s Vitamin C. It’s by far my favorite
Same here!! I’ve tried a bunch from other brands and they either felt way too oily, gritty, or just irritated my skin. But the prequel one is legit amazing! I love mixing it with that Jumiso snail peptide essence and it’s awesome 🤩
really surprised you didn't mention Maelove vitamin c serum. It has great ingredients similar to the skinceuticals
Best dupe I’ve tried!
Appropriately hyped it is! Thank you for this long informative video and the clarifications and product suggestions. I wish I watched this before I wasted money on all La Roche Posay's vitamin C serums. I got all their serums but the vitamin C really irritates my skin.
Vanicream has a nice Vitamin C that’s perfect for sensitive skin.
Why did I think these two were a couple... the connection is just wow!
Yes they actually compliment each other but they aren't.
Yes I was surprised to learn they’re both straight 😂
Bahahaha😂
@@brittyn😅😂
These guys are married with wives. Where is ur mind?
I have been being treated for KP for the last 2 years. I was told that the corkscrew hairs that are on my tummy and legs were from KP. I am so thankful for you. It is no wonder there has been little to no improvement. *sigh* I am going to rewatch this again and review the materials. All this time I needed Vitamin C in and on my body!
Informative. Watchable. Lovable. Thanks fellas! Another appreciated and super video. Outtakes so fun too.
Loved this long video - watched it on x2 and made notes. I am ordering my vitamin c right now! I ran out a couple of weeks ago and can see the difference in the lack of brightness in my skin
Love how thorough this video is! I’m definitely as insane as the good doctors and watched the whole thing 🧡
Fantastically presented and scientifically funded video! All the Info we need, thanks guys
I like the deep dive. Very informative.
I watched this video too many times, every time I see an ingredient list I always come back to see which kind of vitamin C I need
I’ve been using the Timeless 20% L-ascorbic acid for almost 2 years religiously, and it’s a holy grail 🎉💗 and I have SENSITIVE + rosacea prone skin ♥️
ALSO
did you hear about the class action LAWSUIT against Paula’s choice for lying about their cruelty free status?
If that is proven true, I cannot and will not support them going forward.
I, myself, only use cruelty-free skincare- but to LIE about it?
No thank you!
I’ll need a Doctorly “Unhinged” episode on the lawsuit ^ 😅🙏🏻
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AMAZING video as always! LOVE YOU GUYS 💗
I hear you - I was super high on Drunk Elephant products when they first came out (their C-Firma was not a fave) but then she sold to Shiseido which is NOT a cruelty free brand, soooo....hypocrite much?! I kinda lost respect for the brand after that...
Wow..I'm only using cruelty free ..I honestly don't think all this anti aging works
GREAT informative video! You guys are so knowledgeable and yet still personable. Thanks for taking the time to provide such in-depth relevant insight.
Timeless was extremely effective for me at helping to address hyperpigmentation in a short amount of time but the key was when I applied it and how long I let it sit for. The optimal order of operations was:
1. Cleanse (wait 30-60s)
2. Tone (wait 60s)
3. Timeless vitamin C 20% (wait 10 minutes after applying )
4. Niacinamide 10% (wait 2 mins)
When I used Timeless in the last step it seemed to have little to no effect on my skin.
Yes I experienced irritation with it but skin peeling and dryness was a worthy tradeoff to dark spots and could be managed by dialing back Retin-A Microgel from 0.1% to 0.4% and lower frequency of Paula's Choice BHA. I hope this helps someone in need!
Love that you broke down the iodine test. It's so easy to buy into stuff like that when you don't know how it works and its very disingenuous of companies to market that way.
I've been using The Ordinary Ascorbic Acid with Alpha Arbutin for more than 6 months now and my face incredibly improved!!! Uses the serum at night then sunblock in the morning. 😊 No more small bumps, texture, smooth as!!
FYI TO are discontinuing this serum it might be available on their website under fond farewell
My main concern about SkinCeuticals C E Ferulic is its very cheap bottle dropper packaging and the stability of the product
Thank you for such a thorough review of Vitamin C types, ingredients, percentages etc….
I personally use Timeless at 20%. They also have it at 10%. It has made a significant improvement in the hyperpigmentation of my forearms due to sun damage. Timeless is one of the less costly of L. ascorbic acid. Nice that it also has férulic acid and vit EI do not have sensitive skin and my face is showing some improvement of hyperpigmentation spots due to acne. It took about two months but definitely worth the time and effort of wearing it daily in the morning only.
Really appreciate the education on vitamin c. ❤
Yes, I use it all the time. The vitamin c I use is from Japan. It does make my skin beautiful.
Hi what the product and where you buy it from please (website)
My God the editing adds another layer of fun to the already exiting content and energy of the docs. ❤❤❤😅
Love the trivia, you guys don't need much editing, just keep it going 😂
Outstanding discussion and review of all things vitamin C. Loved that you both enjoyed geeking out on this important ingredient.
I have been using the Timeless 20% for over 5 years and have had zero problems with it.
Prequel Lucent C… it’s the one product that made me ditch SC CE+F and now I use the $23 better version
Agree!
The Prequel brand by Dr Sam Ellis has Vitamin C has 15% L Ascorbic acid, ferulic acid & ergothioneine & its only 21$ !! I love it highly recommend!
I actually got asked what I did to my skin because they said it looked really good. I added Prequel vitamin c. I have rosacea and melasma and I tolerate it well.
I’ll listen to you guys cuz your skin looks amazing. A lot of these skin care gurus on TH-cam trying to sell skin product look like dogshit.
Thank you for this info! Literally was sooo confused whether it was good or unnecessary. I absolutely trust you guys, so this has been very helpful❤
OMG!!! I was just about to purchase vitamin C!!! THANK YOU❤
Thank you for breaking down the science behind Vitamin C. This was super helpful!
Great video! By the time I got to the end, I was shocked to see it was over 40 minutes cause it didn't feel like it at all. And please keep the bloopers coming! 😬
Thanks for the comparison on cosmetic vs CV etc studies. As a physician, I often write off cosmetic study results because of those differences. Thanks for the perspective!
Vitamin C is a must in my routine. I've used it on my face for years. I am curious, doctors, your opinions on the Maelove products?
I made it all the way through the video. Fortunately, you guys are nice to look at and entertaining 😊
My only comment would be is a lot of us can't afford something that's even $50 on top of everything else. So in the future if you could include more quality products that are less expensive that would be fabulous
The long awaited vitamin c video!✨ i still use it daily to compliment my spf, but personally find other ingredients better for my post inflammatory hyper pigmentation (like remedy for dark spots ;)
I was surprised and happy to hear Dr Shah say Paula’s Choice re-formulated their vitamin C due to irritation. It irritated my face terribly.
I started using the Numbuzin one after your recommendation and I've recently started using the one from Prequel...love both
I have been using Timeless 10% L-Asornic E and F serum. I have very sensitive skin and avoided vitamin C for years. I have been very pleased with this product. I may try Paul’s choice 15% next.
7:05 Haha Dr Maxfield looks so proud, his laughter, it's adorable, and Dr Shah joining in. Their happiness and enthusiasm is contagious 🌻
I was on the fence for Vitamin C, I'm gonna buy it now 🍊
@roseberr1es, me too! I'm so happy that I found them! My face looks healthy, and I'm beginning to get my "glow" back!!! They got me on board with their over-50-night route... They are so knowledgeable, but they express it so enthusiastically that it is alluring and exciting! I'm gonna try vitamin C, and like you, I was really on the fence...
This didnt feel like it was 40+ mins 🙌🏼 ❤
Thank you!!!! Can you do a vitamin C score since there are soooo many more. Focusing on sensitive skin.
Wonderful, love all the information. I don't just want products recommended to me I want the ingredient details, how it works, what works best and what works for my combo sensitive skin. Worth the time to watch this whole video.
Kind of surprised the Prequel Vitamin C wasn’t included. It’s so good. 🤔
Thanks for your videos. It doesn't matter to me if they run long because you are being thorough and easy to understand. Happy New Year!
i will say the remedy dark spots tx made my skincare routine way too easy 😂 i use it and i feel like im missing so many steps but i know i got them all in 1 product. im loving it but still getting used to streamlining my skincare routine lol
Can you do a vitamin C alternative video with current products? What other antioxidants can we look out for?
Great content! I'm 100% a CE Ferulic fan!
For the latinamerican girlies, we have the MARIO BADESCU VITAMIN C, I looove it, no irritation, no fragrance, it has 2 forms of vitamin C that the doctors approved in this video, great price point for the quantity and quality, super stable, it has never turnt brown for me, it has always stayed crystal clear, and I love the oily texture that inmediately absorbs into the skin, I like it oily cause I live in a dry weather so it feels good and moisturizing!! 100% recommend it!!
Well FINALLY you mention my favorite C+E+ferulic acid product, Timeless! Why pay more? My skin likes it; I can even use it on my eyelids around my sensitive eyes.
Timeless is cheap only for you americans 😂😂
Timeless C E Ferulic comes in a airless pump now and that makes a big difference in terms of stability. In fact it takes much longer to turn orange-brown than the Skinceutics product
Can't buy Timeless Vit C in the UK
I tried and tried, but I couldn't get past the horrible smell. Nausea every single time. My current a.m. serum is Cetaphil Healthy Renew with peptides. Really loving it.
@kerrycork58
Interesting because I've never noticed that it has any odor although suppose it does have some. It's not an added scent; probably just what the ingredients smell like. Going to look until your Cetaphil product because want to try some peptides.
After cleansing in the morning, I use the DermaE vitamin C serum, dry it down then apply sunscreen. Love this vitamin C serum!
I rub fresh lemon juice on my face and neck every morning. Seems to be working.
I watched the full video and I love how science based you are. Thank you for sharing all this content! I love the little extra at the end 😂
I wish they reviewed Timeless
Timeless is excellent and the right ph as well as a great formula. Watch Hot and Flashy on youtube, her videos on Vitamin C are so informative!!
Please do a video about debunking some “clean” beauty brands and give good alternatives of actual good natural organic brands
Awesome video. Stayed through the entire video because incredibly informative and educative video. Not one percent boring🎉
YES!!!!! Thank you Doctors for finally doing a video on VITAMIN C!!!
I use exponent beauty. I comes in powder form and when your ready to use it you mix it with Hyronic acid that u purchase with the vitamin C powder.
I love the L’Oréal Vit C +E + Sal Acid. It’s made my pores disappear & my skin glow.
Mine oxidized so quickly. How did you store your bottle? Any tips ?
@@tiggernix I keep the lid on tight & in a drawer, but it does go orange by the time I’m 3/4 done. L’Oréal claims that the formula is highly stable & still potent & effective even if it darkens, but I haven’t seen evidence to support that. I’d like to get a pump for my next bottle, it would at least help with the exposure to air, I hate the droppers.
I keep my vitamin C in the refrigerator. I’ve had a bottle for 11 months now that has not oxidized at all. It’s still looks like white wine.
Hot and flashy did a ph test on this one with others but L’Oréal came in green with a high PH , it was awful! It’s supposed to be in the yellowish orange range and it was way off. I wouldn’t recommend!
@@cleopatra72 From what I understand, the SA helps the Vit C to penetrate deeper, so while it has a higher pH, it’s effective while being less irritating than a lower pH formula.
I have eczema prone/sensitive skin & it’s never caused me any issues, but has worked beautifully.
I am going to keep pestering you to please do a segment skin care for people taking immunusuppressant drugs, particularly for lifetime. My skin changed dramatically immediately upon transplant, and mean while I was still in the hospital. I've had to reorganize my entire routine due to new concerns. tis include squamous cell cancers emerging, discolored skin around eyelids, wrinkles out of no where. Aged 10 years overnight! i have learned so much from your platform. Please think of us who are trying to make the best out of this new phase of our skin's life.
sorry to hear about your health situations, I did read a book Savef Skin on AMAZON and it mentioned about drugs and skincare, it is a helpful read I found.
For anyone on the fence about spending money on Vitamin C products: I recently had an experience that really justified its place in my budget and cosmetics cabinet. Early last month, my skin reacted to something overnight (still not sure what) that materialized as a cluster of hyperpigmented spots on the core of my hand. Saw a derm who told me it was essentially a rash or hives that has now calmed and set as hyperpigmentation, but because the pigmentation is so shallow (unlike sun spots for example), it will naturally fade so “don’t fret over it”. A month later, the pigmentation was still there and it really bothered me, so I began using the vitamin C serum that I use on my face on that part of my hand at night. In 2 weeks, the spots have now faded! I was flabbergasted because topical skincare was just something I bought into feeling it was better than nothing, even though I never noticed any dramatic changes in my skin. Might still be true for other ingredients but I saw vitamin C work for me, so for anyone with pigmentation I think it’s worth looking into! The pigmentation on your face is likely deposited much deeper than what I had on my hand, but keep playing the long game with vitamin C, sunscreen, and whatever else you use and I think you’ll see improvements!
I didn’t believe it until I tried it. Now, I’m hooked 🤷🏽♂️ for me, it addressed skin dullness and it gives an inner glow. The one I use is a face mask which I use at night.
This is the reason I love long form video, thank you so much, Dr. Maxfield and Dr. Shah! I love hearing about studies and all the nuance you both share. I've been using the Maelove glow maker vitamin c and like it - no irritation and I do think it has a brightening effect.
Yes, the vitamin C videooooooo!🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Awesome deep dive into vitamin C. Thank you!
I really appreciate y’all ! These are very informative videos…I feel like I’m in a classroom! Thanks for taking time to go into detail for the layman!
Any of you tried Dermasenso vitamin c serum?
The docs are back👍❤️
Thoughts on Ascorbyl Glucoside? Dr. Maxfield mentions it for the briefest second when talking about Numbuzin and it seems to be in some of the newer Vitamin C products. Would love to hear your opinions on Ascorbyl Glucoside as a stable but similarly effective Vitamin C derivative!
its insane how i found this video at just the right time.
I’ve been unconsciously waiting for this
I use the Paula’s Choice C15 surprisingly the new version didn’t irritate my rosacea skin
Timeless Vit C is as good as Skin Ceuticals for 20.00
I just watched a video On hyaluronic acid. I use SkinCeuticals which Is extremely expensive. It does not Go down2The epidermis It only goes It only goes to the dermis. No good
Dear, most cosmetic and cosmeceutical products don't go down to the dermis (deep living skin). The products we use in skin care are used to treat the the health of the epidermis (upper layer) hyaluronic acid is used to keep the outer levels hydrated.
@@rjrod1326Dear? unnecessary.
@@Miranda3730 was it necessary for you to comment?
Absolut no
The Ordinary 's pure L-Ascorbic acid powder mixed with 3-4 drops of Reservatrol with Ferulic acid (also from the ordinary) is my go to product and much more affordable.