Shhhh they’re super straight...they said it sooo many times..they’re still trying to convince themselves as well as convince us...but they’re like totally straight..duh!
@@CyberrShrimp Yeah it is. It just replaced stewardess and now it’s flight attendant. Yeah I think people say personal assistant or sometimes receptionist but not secretary. It’s interesting how names for things change but sometimes it’s for the best.
Men trying to say they don’t see women as equals, and only consider them valuable when sex is a possibility without directly saying they don’t see women as equals, and only consider them valuable when sex is a possibility for 20 minutes.
@Judy Mwanzo the same feminists trying to still complain about a wage gap and how society is oppressing women instead of actually educating themselves....sheeesh what is this 2021?
Yup One of them was even a prostitute... Who he was purely a spiritual teacher to... Told men to pluck out their own eyes if they felt the desire to sin when they were turned on by a woman
@fright car what about feminism isnt needed? it aims to promote a healthy culture free from the negative expectations placed on the sexes? i think now more than ever its needed
@fright car abortion is literally being banned in texas what the fuck are you talking about edit: also in a lot of countries, trans people are being stripped of their rights. trans issues are inherently feminist issues because there are a) trans women and b) trans men/enbies with uteruses. sex workers barely have any rights and are treated as criminals. i realize i might come off as aggressive but that's because i feel like a stance like that needs to be challenged. until gender is literally gone from the world, feminism will be important, because feminism isn't just "women's rights to do stuff".
Their talk about not being able to spend time with women they aren't dating/married to has "Mike Pence refusing to be left alone with a woman and bringing his wife everywhere" energy. Like it's not the respectful move they think it is ; it's just them admitting they don't know how to act around women
Not only that but it shows they don't value women other than as a partner? Like they see a woman and their minds just go to "must have sex to talk or be friendly" And to go further, I don't think they value women as humans either tbh. To them it's just 'woman = friend you have sex with but you cannot not have sex' which is what dating is for most people anyway. And when it comes to half of the population it's just dating. Do they realize they have moms even? Women can be a whole a lot to you, sisters, friends, girlfriends etc. and yet they see women as not even human, alongside men.
@@suddypahp5224 they straight up believe the only women with LITERALLY ANY VALUE TO THEM are ones they can sleep with. shocked pikachu face when they get called sexist.
it’s a huge thing for fundamentalists. my dad used to bring me along when my mom wasn’t available if he had to talk to a woman at church. it’s called the billy graham rule :/ (obviously bc it was propagated by the protestant king of absent fathers and shitty husbands: billy graham)
"Women should treat their husbands like Jesus" Sure, I'll consider that when my husband washes my feet, turns water into wine, walks on water, and revives after death.
I am a Christian and I actually read the scriptures you’re referring to and you hit the nail and pinned the tail on the donkey. You understand the Bible better than some Christian men out there! A man should be willing to sacrifice his life for his wife. That’s the whole premise of marriage in the Christian context.
“Emotional sex” is so funny because it means these guys are so against being close to women for things other than sex that they think any kind of closeness to a woman is inherently sexual.
This is an unfortunately very prevalent attitude, explicitly and implicitly (the former being most present in fundamentalists, the latter in non-fundamentalists, most typically) within Christianity.
@Babba Yaaga muslims as well !! i kinda stop going to a few mosques in my city bc the men or even their wives's or children look at me in disgust bc im not wearing a hijab i always wear muslimah clotes and i still feel undomfortable honestly, i ask this to my friend and he said "you better not look something that might give you lust" like... tf ? you got horny from looking at womens hair or what ? yeah i cut all ties with my friend shortly after that lol
it makes me really happy when a guy i'm interested in has close friendships with girls, because it means he can see women as actual human beings, not sex objects
ikr?? my boyfriend, although actually an introvert, tends to be sociable (unlike me haha) so he made quite a few friends while being an exchange student at my high school (how we met) - including the children of the host he was with - and some of them were girls. But he didn't really treat them different, he just was nice to everyone. I remember falling harder for him after seeing him interact with the daughters of the host family so genuinely - he even once sent me a picture after he let a couple of them put makeup on him lol~ It was adorable. (I think part of it was also because he wishes he had a little sibling growing up but he's an only child, so - either way, he's a precious man.) Admittedly there was one time where I felt a little bad when he was interacting with another exchange student who was a girl - but that's because there was a misunderstanding on my end and I thought he liked her (and i have very low self-esteem due to my depression, so that didn't help) - we were both very oblivious to each other's feelings for a long time lmao.
It's honestly a perfectly advertised podcast like this sounds weird but I didn't expect a podcast named mansplain to actually mansplain every fucking thing
As a bi woman I think it’s HILARIOUS when men say you shouldnt be friends with the opposite sex, like if we’re going by logic I couldn’t be friends with anyone
@@theonewhosthere he said men are only sexually and romantically attracted to walking fleshlights, not women with personalities or a sense of humour. translation: men are vapid scum
The sad thing is that this is exactly why so many straight people don't trust us. They don't see it as possible to be just friends with people of the gender they're attracted to, so they perceive us bi people as sex-crazed and dyed in the wool cheaters.
i KNOW these guys didn't just claim that HETEROSEXUAL MALE FRIENDSHIP is being underrepresented in media in favor of gay relationships..... i wanna scream
No - Idol worship would be failing to recognize Christ as Lord, and putting another before him. Woman honoring their husbands as they would Christ still place Christ as the highest standard. And this SHOULD go both ways - the point is that all of us have a speck of divine inspiration within us, made in the image of God, and thus we should imbue other humans with a certain measure of dignity and respect. This is the literal foundation for the Western notion of human rights. Also consider Matthew 25:40 "And God will answer, "Whatever you did for any of my people, no matter how unimportant they seemed, you did it for me" ' - this shows that because we're divinely inspired, good treatment of our fellow humans is akin to good treatment of God, and in fact a means of worshipping God. Also consider the parable of the good Samaritan - the idea that we should love our neighbor as ourselves, but also be the loving neighbor even if the other person doesn't deserve it, because we're respecting that the other person is a fellow creation of God. I imagine the verse these guys are drawing from is Ephesians 5:22 - "Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord". Submission doesn't necessarily mean blind, silent obedience - it means allowing and encouraging your husband to be the spiritual leader of the family unit. Because we've been so intent on erasing differences between sexes and replacing them with a spectrum of genders, we haven't questioned the functional roles these differences can play - An ideal family structure features man as spiritual leader, providing for his family and imparting high values, and woman as nurturer, demonstrating God's love to her family and creating a positive environment for the family. Both roles equally important, and both difficult to fully embody - not all men are cut out for leadership, and not all women are cut out for nurturing, and yet we must put God first and let him help us become who we were meant to be. Likewise, men are instructed to love their wives as Christ loved the church - this is as important as Ephesians 5:22, though many men do fail to live up to it.
@@camillashimwa7671 As you shouldn't - wives are called to HONOR their husbands as they would honor God. That is, to have a willing and giving spirit, and to be faithful and loving. This doesn't mean wives are supposed to shut up and do whatever their husbands say, especially if the husband's demands conflict with God's. Rather, wives are to approach marriage considering how they might build up their husband through love and respect so that he might lead the family down the righteous path, though she ultimately serves God first. Likewise, the husband is to be a loving and gracious leader, walking with God and providing for his family. Though we are to 'submit' to God's will, he has given us free will so that we might choose his leadership, and he does not rule through fear and force. Likewise, the husband should not be sitting around thinking about the ways in which his wife could better serve his needs - that is her job. His job is to think about how he could better lead his family and serve them. Put simply, the Biblical recommendation is to be in servitude to your husbands, wives, your families. If submission was truly, and only, tyrannical, why should we submit to God? Submission is not derogatory - it is spiritually powerful. As Christians, we take power in empowering others through acts of selflessness. This is obviously a bit counterintuitive, because as humans, we tend to think of power as a means of controlling other people.
@@bradyhayes9818 girl i aint reading your essay. Thé only person who I will treat and honour like God is God himself. Will I love my husband? Of course. Will I respect him? Of course. But will I bow down to him and worship him like he is God? No way.
what makes me chuckle is how they "don't wanna pursue friendships with women for the sake of their future wives" but how they gonna get wives if they're avoiding all female contact hahahaha
when one of them said "their standing up for women" in a mocking tone while laughing, it really showed that they are well aware that they're putting women down constantly.
I was in a church which was more of a room above a store. Anyway projection was HUGE. Im a guy and one time they were preying me and one of them, this john legend lookalike, made this quip 'rebuking' my feminine spirit. I was humiliated it was in front of the other guys there. It was really bad and horrible. The other guys were always attacking my perceived lack of masculinity. Theyd REVILE my cross earring, it was literally everything they represent and they HATE IT. Now i believe Jesus is lord so i forgive em. BUT they better not. In anither church they had a whole ass exorcism ritual cuz they thought i was gay. Like im really not sexually promiscuous but still.
"Same sex affection is not same sex attraction". " You can't be friends with a girl bc friendship is relationship without sex" Must be hella confusing to be them.
It IS hella confusing. I grew up in this world, and I've come to understand that Christianity is both hypersexualized and sexually starved, since they are taught to avoid sexual temptation CONSTANTLY, yet are not taught to look at women in any way other than potential sexual temptation... It's a cruel irony, and insanity. And, IMO, explains why so many of them get busted for sexually deviant behavior. And this podcast is the blind leading the blind. Sad. 🤦♂️
@@TheGuardDuck there’s a reason the vatican is sus. Religion in general makes s*x such a taboo. S*xual suppression often leads to hypers*xuality or straight up s*xual deviance/crime.
I went to Catholic school with John Michael in 8th grade. He was pretty much an arrogant bully. Below is what I remember of him: He made fun of the guys who liked Lord of the Rings. Once, he railed into them because he found it stupid that they were saying aloud the title abbreviation, LotR, as “LO-DER”. (His struggle to grasp acronyms goes way back. If he had actually watched or read LotR, he wouldn’t need to lament “lack of close male friendships in media”.) His looks made him popular with the girls. Our paths crossed sometimes as I was constantly on mission to blend in with all the other girls, in the hopes that being normal would make me less of a target for bullying. On one occasion, I was lucky enough to sit at the edge of the popular girls’ table. Johnathan spoke in a very sexually explicit way to and about the girls. He recounted an incident in which he had seen one of the girls present getting out of the shower, and that he had seen her breasts. He teased her about their small size, and talked about feeling them up. Having come from a sheltered environment, I remember feeling so shocked by his gross behavior. Another time, I was huddled around a year book in a group of girls with Johnathan. He started ridiculing the photos of people he believed to be ugly losers. Eventually, he pointed to my picture and made a comment about my supposed ugliness- Dead silence. No one laughed. I remember thinking, “He really doesn’t realize I’m standing right here, right in front of him.” The lack of response from the other girls tipped him off to my presence, so he fumbled about and tried to act like that’s not what he meant. At the time, it really hurt, but in hindsight, it’s pretty funny to have witnessed his lack of situational awareness cause him some mild embarrassment. I like to think that people improve with time, but it’s likely that he’s more or less the same as he was 15+ years ago, albeit now with a public persona that presents as squeaky-clean & Christian. This man really do be 30 years old acting like he’s 13. :/
They're explaining the word 'mansplain' on their podcast called 'Mansplain' but clearly don't understand what 'mansplain' actually means. It's a mansplainception.
@@joshualai5359 they honestly explained it well, its just a man explaining something in a condescending way, im not sure if this refers to a man explaining something exclusively to women or if it includes other genders but examples include men trying to explain cars and stocks and all that
@@joshualai5359 They were right that it is when a man explains something to a woman in a condescending way, but it also usually involves a topic that the woman is already more well-versed in than said man. An example could be a cisgender man explaining how periods work to a cisgender woman. It undermines the woman's first-hand experience and implies that they know more than she does, despite the fact that it is her lived experience. Another one could be a man who has taken one coding class explaining how computer science works to a female who is a programmer by profession.
Fr the fact that I have a pussy shouldn’t define whether or whether not I’m respected, respect should be mutual and if a guy doesn’t respect me I will not be respecting him
FeMaLeS are only there for one thing..sex. Obviously. Idk about you but I for sure don’t have a personality or feelings or goals or anything...o solely exist for my husband to use my body as his very own sex doll...duh 🙄
@@addisoncundiff8293 and women just can’t not have feelings for these guys. because obviously if we are trying to have a friendship with anyone it’s with the ulterior motive of entering a long term romantic relationship with them. instead of idk just want to have friends. definitely not lol
As “one of the good ones,” (I feel weird using that statement) I’ve gotta say, I’m sorry and embarrassed and sorry that all straight women have to go through this
@@quest8447 Truth. These guys are ankle biters in comparison to the rest of...well, a lot of people who aren't insufferable douchebags who think they're better than others simply because they are men, have way TOO many followers, and as they put it "close to God and Jesus". They're just obnoxious and loud. The more clout we give them, the more they'll spew their nonsense out on the rest of us who are just simply trying to enjoy life and make it day by day without being judged simply because of the color of our skin, or gender and sex, who we choose to go out with or marry, or what friends we have, what food we eat, etc....the list is quite frankly exhausting and long to go through. This whole podcast gives me such a huge amount of second-hand embarrassment for just how dimwitted and willingly ignorant they are.... and *condescending*, and using their own religious beliefs to excuse being a misogynistic, transphobic/homophobic asshole. Sadly this isn't even new, it's just that these guys are pushing their platforms of hate around and people watch them and give them views/ratings/followers. Like a little dog who just took a dump on your living room carpet and looked at you excitedly and tried to show that they have done something good, when reality - it's just shit.
@@RevanRA It's not a excuse to be that way , it's living the right way. Have you thought of it this way if Adam and Eve didn't sin you'd be a Christian. I don't want you to think I'm showing my "beliefs" on you. We're not hateful or judgmental we only want to help and do the right thing. These men still have a lot to learn coming from a woman😅 But I prefer Adam and Eve's mistake other wise Jesus didn't do His beautiful sacrifice.❤ Where do think you'll spend your after life? 🌟😁
@@lindy9741 I'm not against religion or religious freedoms, I'm against when people DO in fact use their religion to be hateful. I wasn't painting all of Christianity with a broad brush here, I merely just want peoples' different beliefs be respected. I am a spiritual man at heart, but I do not go around saying, "Oh, you're possessed by the Devil for believing in something different than me." I have no doubt you are a nice person who respects boundaries, but these guys are the definition of cringe.
This sounded just pathetic to me. These guys talked in this section as if all of them were powerful CEOs who have secretaries to take care of their important business schedules. They are almost hopping into wattpad territory.
It bugs me how many people don't recognize that a key element of mansplaining is that the woman already understands what is being "explained" to her, often better than the man. Sometimes they are literal experts on the topic being explained to them. It's the assumption that you couldn't possibly know what you're talking about or already understand that makes it so infuriating.
@@panepena7715 No, there aren't other words to describe the phenomenon of men "explaining" things at women who already understand the topic. It's called mansplaining because it's rooted in the sexist assumption that women don't understand what they're talking about.
@@nonaide Wouldnt that be a bit specific case to invent the word? Dont women do that too? Anyone with big ego does that. It may also come from experiences and assuming that the motive is sexist and making up words based on it is redicilous.
I'm going to school for microbiology and a woman mansplained gut microbes to me. She spoke to me like if I was a five year old. I didn't say anything to her. I wanted to see what she had to say. 😅🤣
Oh please I wish the things men are saying they don’t like about women actually kept them away from these women. Men are easy af and they don’t want to admit it, that in the end women hold power over them with their bodies
as a young christian i find it sad (and a bit hilarious) that some people still have this messed up idea of what being christian is all about it breaks my heart just seeing them use religion as an excuse for misogyny, ignorance and overall being toxic af and hateful, and i hate when people assume im that narrow minded too just because of my faith :/
Literally It feels like I’ve been dragged along by one of my female friends who knows this guy and I’m just sat there being forced to listen because they won’t let me speak
It’s funny how some Christians always bring up that women should submit to their husbands and honour them like God but will never bring up the fact that under that phrase it says that men should want to die for their wives and love them how Christ loves the church. 🤔
First, you don't seem christian I would like you to know no one ever says to treat the husband like God. These dudes are a minority of a minority in a religion of 2 billion but yes, submitting to your husband is true as men should save their wives. Why is submitting to your husband or wife wrong? Both have roles in the family. Its okay for someone to submit and slave over their boss and work but for your family its somehow wrong?
@@profile1172 First, I’m a Christian and second I never mentioned that a person couldn’t submit to their partner - I was just pointing how one phrase is cherry picked and used in contexts that it wasn’t meant for ;For example being used by misogynistic men
6:40 “if a woman felt that it’s offensive then it’s offensive doesn’t matter if you were contending it or not it doesn’t matter” proves that none of these men paid any attention to their work place sexual harassment training.
“There’s nothing you can get from a friendship with a girl that you can’t get from a friendship with a guy. So girl friendships are unnecessary” yeah but. Hot take here. It’s not the gender of the friend that matters, it’s about the unique person. You can’t just exchange one person for another and expect the same experience cause every person is unique. It’s about the personality. I know, controversial opinion here.
And earlier in the podcast, they literally said you shouldn’t assign traits to someone based on their gender. So does gender matter or does it not matter?? 😂
Also doesn’t that statement literally put men and women on the same level 😭😂 like he’s saying they both offer the same thing in friendships sooooo why avoid friendships with women?
This whole group sat there for the entire podcast and said that women have no other benefits than being objects and wives and girlfriends which is so fucking sexist and it’s crazy that they all thought that those were ok statements to make.
and then theyre gonna be the same ones wondering why theyre single and blaming women for it. or theyre gonna be the same ones triggered when a girl doesnt want to have sex with them
Your God-given intuition serves you well. None of these dudes are followers of Christ because their message is the opposite of His. They're dehumanizing and rejecting loving relationships with women; Christ humanized, uplifted, talked to, accepted, and redeemed women. The difference is like night and day.
@@FloppityFlopFlop777 I disagree. I don't see how Christianity is not mired in sexism, when we are expected to submit to our husbands as we submit to GOD. Scripture has very specific teachings that a woman's natural body and menstruation makes her impure, that she must hide herself to be cleansed and not be touched for a week after. Eve was famously made from a rib of Adam (weird since in real life men come from a woman's body) after his first mate Lilith didn't submit to him. The story of Eve and the serpent teaches that the pain of childbirth is the fault of a woman. None of this reads as respectful, peaceful, or loving. "Love thy neighbor" falls kinda flat when there's so many unloving ways Christians are expected to treat their female members. Religion is wielded as a cudgel against women worldwide, for the simple fact of them being women. I do not deny that Christianity is responsible for good deeds, inspiration, and community across the world. But I also believe it's intellectually dishonest to say that Christianity serves women like it does men. How on earth can we expect text and teachings from 2000 years ago to NOT be intrinsically tied to sexism?
@bean dog LOL what? I’ve never heard of the teaching that a woman’s natural body and menstruation makes her impure-and I’m Christian and was raised in the church. The Bible teaches that God created BOTH man and woman in His own image (Genesis 1:27). Anything that opposes that statement is false teaching. Eve was created from Adam’s rib; Eve is Adam’s first and ONLY wife. The Christian Bible does not mention Lilith as Adam’s first wife or as a wife at all. In the Christian Bible, Lilith is only mentioned once (Isaiah 34:14) in reference to a night creature, night bird, or a screech owl. *Note: The name “Lilith” does not appear in every translation (e.g. KJV, NIV). The Lilith you’re thinking of is found in Jewish religion-Judaism-as well as folklore. Christianity and Judaism are two different religions, so please do not confuse or combine the two. According to the Bible, Eve gave birth to all humankind-except Adam-after her creation, which I believe is why we all come from a woman. The Bible teaches that pain in childbirth was multiplied (Genesis 3:16) because of Eve’s sin, implying that childbirth was never going to be completely painless. Likewise, Adam was also punished for his sin. Notice that God didn’t appear until after BOTH Eve and Adam sinned (see Genesis chapter 3, any version). Thus, we have this verse: “For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23 ESV). Still, God loves women-why would He hate His own children? There are plenty of revered women in both the Old and New Testament: Ruth, Deborah, Rahab, Esther, the Virgin Mary, Mary Magdalene and many more. Women are valued in God’s Kingdom just as much as men. Men are told to “love their wives… husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself” (Ephesians 5:25-28 ESV). If you ever see a Christian treating women as a whole in an unloving way, then they aren’t a Christian; they just claim to be. On Judgement Day, God will say to these people, “I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness” (Matthew 7:23 ESV). You can trust that the Bible can be applied even 2000 years into the future-and counting-because the Bible says so. All Scripture is God-breathed (2 Timothy 3:16-17), therefore, it can be trusted. If you cannot accept this, you aren’t a Christian. Rejecting the Bible is the same as rejecting God (Hosea 9:17, Luke 10:16, John 12:48). It’s as simple as that. Hope this helps!
"If I go to a subway and there's a female work there and I ask her to make me a sandwich, is that sexist?" Gives me the same feeling as " oh equal rights? Equal fights too right, right?"
That comment was so weird. Like do you go to ANY restaurant and tell ANYONE “Make me a coffee.“ “Make me pasta” “Make me a burger”? Like The normal thing is “id like to order so and so” That’s hella condescending and disrespectful to say to anyone who works in food regardless of gender
“I can’t have platonic relationships with women. The definition of a platonic relationship is still an intimate friendship, so the only difference between that & a woman I’m married to is sex” So you admit it. You refuse to have relationships with women unless you can have sex with them
I love when chuds say something awful and then their response to being called out is "she's not gonna DM you bro." Like they cannot fathom that a person would have motivation for pointing out sexism outside of getting laid.
How can girls always “friend zone” guys and “lead them on” while simultaneously always “want more from the relationship (friendship)” ?? Which is it ?? Cuz it can’t be both. PICK ONE??
Seriously. It's like all their source material for making these contradicting statements comes from different fictional movies or TV shows and not their own real life experiences lol
Yeah they gotta be specific it’s all situational some girls friendzone guys for attention some girls want more it’s fine just decided who you’d rather spend your time with
Being platonic friends with no expressed romantic interest from either side is "leading them on", if they're opposite genders (apparently???). (❓🤔❓🧐❓) Edit: but only female friends are capable of that. Male friends aren't.
This is what the boys are saying. Someone always wants more. It can be abusive and usury. Boys are friends with boys and girls are friends with girls. The rest are just acquaintances. These guys are P U R E.
I love the discussion about men not being able to show affection towards each other without being called gay. Yeah? I wonder who started perpetuating that idea? I wonder who helped foster the idea that we need to be accusatory and suspicious of people who may or may not be gay. I wonder why our society feels the need to stick their nose in other people's business when it comes to who they want to date. Its crazy how blind they are.
it's so ironic how true this is. the majority of issues affecting men were created and are perpetuated by other men, but they always point the finger at women or feminists
Literally it's the fucking patriarchy's fault. Dafuq are they crying about when they are the ones doing it to themselves?! So fucking stupid and tone deaf oooooh it's makes me rage
@@WerewolfCat890 Especially when most feminists are the main ones trying to steer society away from stupid views like that. But because they use a few scary words like “toxic”, people are quick to jump to conclusions about what they’re trying to say.
this is the first reply section where i liked every comment LOL but yes!!! they blame women for everything although they were the ones who created this stigma in the first place???? it’s like that meme of that guy making himself fall off his bike and then proceeding to blame something/someone totally unrelated
"No TV shows have guy friends unless they end up being gay with each other", I too hated it when Walter white left his family for Jessie and his drug empire
"your homeboys change sometimes. the thoughts rearrange in their brains sometimes. too hard dealing with the pain sometimes but you gotta let go you cant save their lives" - Dr. Lyle Ugleman
These guys need to understand that mansplaining isn't just a dad explaining rocket science to his daughter, it's a dad explaining rocket science to his rocket scientist daughter because he thinks he knows it better than her
Oh man, I'm glad somebody else noticed-- I'm not ace (I am queer though, trans guy with a nonbinary fiancé, & we're straight passing IRL which tends to give me a sense of being an undercover spy on this culture), but I am super into romance, and while the best romance has a foundation of healthy friendship it's an entirely different beast with such intense feelings woven into it. Not understanding that honestly makes me feel like they haven't even experienced romantic love at all, just sexual attraction VS friendship. (Which is probably why they define themselves so deeply by their identity as heterosexual men, too.) Not from lacking the ability to feel romantic attraction, but from not seeing their partners as human enough to get that passionate to begin with. It's nuts. You can hear it in the way they talk about girls. A partner to them is the 1 girl they think is sexually attractive and stay at home wife material enough to motivate them to suppress their sexual attraction for other women and commit to just the one. Incredibly objectifying, takes all the magic out. One more note is that I think this makes guys (and the women stuck with them who know they aren't taken seriously) like this way more likely to cheat on their partners. Not that cheating is always logical, but a culture of defining relationships so much around sex means that if you get sexually attracted to anyone else while in a relationship there's not going to be enough of a deeper bond there to stop you from cheating for momentary thrill. Majority of the time, sex becomes a little more familiar (not bad, just familiar) the longer you spend with someone, but I don't think a deep connection with someone can ever stop feeling novel if it's authentic. Almost six years into my relationship and I still wake up feeling like I'm a teenager experiencing their first love.
Straight allosexuals should really hang out with aces and listen to them explain different types of attraction because not everything is just "sexual attraction." Many straight allosexuals don't like learning about queer relationships, so they also don't know that people experience relationships and attraction differently from them.
Love how Gabe insinuates he can't like latinas cuz he's only into "blondes"? Who's gonna tell him being latin is an ethnicity and there are most def natural blonde latinas out there
"If a wife can honor her husband like she honors Jesus..." But you're not Jesus, my guy, and you're saying she should put you or her husband on the same level as your god? Do you not see the blasphemy by your own standards? I'm an atheist, and it's readily apparent to me.
I could easily be wrong, as I was never part of the church either... but I think it's just another way of the patriarchy to exclude women. I think maybe they dont think women can have as strong a relationship with god as men do. So it's not blasphemy because women are only capable of loving God the same amount they can love and worship their husbands? Just a guess.
@@malsake3739 Just because the bible says it doesn't mean it isnt hypocritical. I am well aware of this verse as its precisely the verse that made me and my mom leave the church when I was young. She wasnt religious but took me to Sunday school in case I would get anything out of it. Now, telling my mother who ran our business, handled all financials, took care of me (without abusing me), and was the primary breadwinner to submit to my dad.. that wasnt at all acceptable. My dad stole 6k from me when I was a kid, took out 2 leans on the house and lost it, and crashed more businesses than I care to remember. If it weren't for that, I might be a Christian today. You would think that saving souls would be more important than adhering to words a mortal man wrote ages ago but, I guess not. Oh wait... no sorry, saving souls is more important than that when it comes to mixed fibers and shell fish. Just not when it comes at the expense of male superiority. Which is, again, hypocritical. Why dont you focus on your soul and I'll focus on mine.
Honoring your husband is basically showing your respect to him like you would respect Jesus. It’s not saying that they are on the same level of God. We know fully well that God is above us and we submit to his authority. Jesus is that saying wives should follow in suit with this same submission to their husbands. If you would like to discuss more I am happy to explain in a healthy way of course.
Them saying "honor their husband's like they would honor Jesus" is just blatantly them having a God complex, and wanting to be treated that way, which is taking the lord's name in vein
the way these dudes can't even differentiate between platonic and romantic relationships? if you can't be friends with women that's a YOU problem buddy
6:40 I appreciate the toddler level logic of "Well I didn't intend that so it could never happen", just the idea that he could fuck up without actively intending to do so isn't even a concept this man has ever considered
Maybe when having theological discussions about women, you should have some women involved???? Or literally anyone who is actually educated on biblical language, history, and interpretation
As someone with a Master's in Theology, these kinds of discussions are the theological equivalent to Temptation Island :D I watch them for the sweet tingle of cringe
@@cc-terfay Haha :D But seriously, I'm more pissed about how these types spread misogyny and racism than them being misinformed, as understanding of religious texts is never fixed anyway. (And folks with little or no theological knowledge can live a life of love and caring for their neighbor.) These asshats use religion as a tool for clout.
dude are you serious? you want them to talk to a women?! that would be cheating! think of how devastated their future wives would be if they found out they once spoke to a female human being.
Fr, I like to pretend that these kinda people don’t exist/aren’t common for my own sanity but damn.. when you come across shit like this? It’s genuinely so depressing, and scary.
@@Cameracat89 it is bad because they clearly don’t respect women and create a straw man when insulting feminism to where I genuinely wonder if they’ve ever spoken to a feminist in their lives. It’s not ok. Because women deserve to have respectful men in their lives who won’t treat them like potential property.
I didn’t realize how prevalent this idea was until I started watching _90 Day Fiancé_ (a reality show). Many people on the show get territorial and insecure when they hear that their partner is maintaining platonic friendships during the new relationship. _Sometimes_ the distrust is justified. My mom actually agreed that it is appropriate for a person to set aside their opposite-sex friendships if they’re making a lifetime commitment to a romantic partner. I feel like true friends are way too rare to dispose of like that. After seeing so many negative reactions, I get the idea that opposite-sex relationships which are _truly platonic_ are less common outside of modern “western” cultures…
I have had male platonic friends since I was a tomboy in grade school. I promise you, I never wanted to "schtup" any of those dudes. They were like my brothers. I am also happily married to a Viking built, former bouncer manly-man. He would laugh these guys right out the door. Misogyny is so gross.
@@crnkmnky “i get the idea that opposite-sex relationships which are truly platonic are less common outside of modern “western” cultures…” as a person living in asia, yep. i can’t tell you the amount of times i’ve seen in korean dramas where the male or female lead make a big deal out of the other person being friends with someone of the opposite sex, in fact, it’s always used as one of the biggest conflicts in the drama. worse yet, the plot always turns out that the friend indeed had a crush/romantically liked the lead, which just fuels this misconception even more. i stopped watching romantic dramas altogether because i feel like many of them just portray romance inaccurately. irl, i feel like this mindset might’ve partly affected me making friends with guys because growing up all my friends were females and even right now in my 20s, i have like 1 guy acquaintance, and no close guy friends at all. but i’m able to recognise that males and females can have platonic friendships. in fact, i had to be corrected on 2 separate occasions that some of my friends WERE in a relationship, even though to me they looked like they were just close friends, but they dubbed me as just oblivious. and again, it doesn’t help with improving my perception of this area lol. (yeah i have some strange issues with men and romance)
The way white women will say this about Christians considering women in Christian countries have equal rights. While women in other countries do not but white women will never say anything about Islam or Hindu the same as Christians
It's such a common thing, but it's so jarring to hear them reduce pretty much everything to tokens. "I like blondes and Latinas" makes it sound like he's listing his favorite color or a 1st grader saying his favorite food on the first day of school
@@jsmooooov yeah but like saying “blond and latina women/girls/ladies” instead of just “blonds and latinas” sounds way better bc it indicates that the guy recognizes women beyond just being bodies/objects
You know when someone is just a bigot, it's easier to accept. What really grinds my gears are people like this who insist they are doing the morally righteous thing, and use that moral compass to essentially exclusively do and say horrible shit.
@@DeathnoteBB There is only one true God it's not even a religion it's a relationship with the creator of the universe and you. I get what your saying by shoving while other believers don't do what we do but we do do it for a reason, this is your evidence that it's the best for people on earth cause He's the solution for us, even us aren't perfect nobody is but God , devil is real God , Jesus and the holy spirit is real. It's not fiction or nonsense it's the truth. But it's still not showing.
The way they blamed theoretical women for why they can’t be friends with women is,,, something. Like their whole argument for why they can’t be just friends with women was because of their imaginary future girlfriend/wife
I don’t think your definition of friend and their definition of platonic friendship are the same, so I think you’re jousting at windmills here. I’m a Christian male and fan of Titus/MANSPLAIN guys and I agree with them 100% on this subject. I have female friends but no deep emotional connection with them and I couldn’t really see myself wanting to hang out with any of them 1on1. I don’t think I’d even describe myself as having a deep emotional connection with my male friends tbh. I think these guys are reserved with their emotions and that’s why the deep emotional connection thing is a big deal. I’m the same way, I have emotional connections with family members and my wife only really.
@@malsake3739 I um hate to be the bearer of bad news but friendship is platonic until they get romantically involved…. Like that’s of the meaning of platonic. So whatever you’re saying here makes absolutely no sense
Hearing straight people talk about how they don't think it's possible to be just friends with people of the gender they're attracted to is really eye-opening for why they treat gay men, lesbians, and bi/pansexual people with such high levels of fear and distrust.
it is physically painful to see these guys all agree that "same sex affection is not the same as same sex attraction," yet not be able to come to that same realization when it comes to opposite gender relationships. affection and emotional intimacy do not equal a romantic/sexual relationship. it's just incredible how they got SO CLOSE yet are still so far away 🙃
Someone should edit the whole podcast and just show them saying something good (or at least something that makes sense) and just follow it up with them contradicting themselves
@@JustLikeMagic101 an edit like that but every time they like put the pieces together and start getting there, there’s a meter building up that just empties when they go off track lmfao
that one guy being like "I don't think platonic relationships are important" you just know he's the type of guy who treats his girlfriends like they're his partner, mother, and therapist all in one. We need to tell men it's okay for them to be vulnerable in platonic friendships with each other and with women too!
he "can't have a platonic relationship with a woman"? why does he only want male friends? 🤔 he only wants to be around men all the time? 😳 bro that's kinda.....👀
Them saying a man and woman shouldn't be friends because you can gain anything from a woman is so sad, because like... Friendship isn't about what you can gain from a relationship. That's such a sad way to look at relationships of any type.
but like.. I’m bisexual. I’ve had deep, loving, romantic relationships with people of all genders. so what am i supposed to do, not have friends? these people need to educate themselves lmao
In the eyes of these men, the world basically revolves around them. I doubt they even know the definition of intersectionality. I guess bi/pan people just explode in their world ig
"there are no examples of male/male friendships/affection in television" my guy had to melt his brain so hard to say that that he just forgot the entirety of every single lord of the rings movie
Their podcast is the perfect example of group think cus they all reinforce each other rather than challenging one another to keep thinking about what they believe…
What I'm getting from their stance on male/female friendships is that they think women are too stupid to understand platonic vs romantic feelings. Meanwhile, they have the critical thinking skills of a bunch of seventh-grade boys. It's embarrassing.
They went too far with that. To a certain degree I understand trying to make your partner comfortable, for example I personally wouldn’t be alone with another girl, I would have someone else with me. To each their own, set up boundaries in a relationship, it doesn’t have to be black and white.
@@tyleroberg9986 it is true that it’s all about what you feel comfortable with, but the issue is they don’t say that at any point, if they feel they operate a certain way, that must be the only way to do it. I would have 0 issue if my partner who is a man was to spend time with a woman 1 on 1. If I wasn’t okay with that, I would start to question why I don’t trust my partner to be faithful to me.
My ex boyfriend was skeptical about same sex friendships (while claiming that a woman was his best friend lmaooo) and yes, that's definitely a red flag. He was a POS who objectified women. It made me really uncomfy whenever I mentioned talking to a man and he'd tell me "he just wants to sleep with you, that's what guys are like" aight bro way to tell on yourself for not being able to view women as equals.
right??? if they feel like friendship with women doesn't exist, it's because something is clearly wrong with the way they treat women. but of course none of them is self aware enough to realize this 💀
I had a boyfriend who got really upset any time I didn't wait for him to open the door for me...so I would argue there is a way to open a door for a woman ...um... sexistly... however, it's not just the act itself... I found his way very condescending, which is ironic since holding door for someone is supposed to be the show of respect... In the day to day life, if I get to a door and there is someone I know behind me, or someone older, I'll hold the door for them. When is the situation in reverse, I am ok with someone holding the door for me... what I am not ok with, is the guy running and basically showing me aside in order to get to the door first, pouting if he doesn't accomplish this, and then complaining that he can't even open the door for his girlfriend, because "everything is sexist now"... Like...get a grip...
it's actually true, that opening up about your emotions to someone of the opposite sex makes you date. me and my male best friend talked about our individual traumas and the next day we woke up with wedding rings and even an official paper. be careful who you open up to
Oh shit, my best friend of nearly 5 years is a man and I'm a woman... We've shared all sorts of emotional stuff with each other (including him telling me about his crushes). Damn, guess we're dating.
Just bc that happened for your doesn’t necessarily reflect how true that it is. Ive been best friends with someone of the opposite sex for years and we often are in a place of emotional vulnerability with each other, doesn’t ever end up in any other feeling apart from plutonic. Idk if that was satire tho lmao
Having grown up in the church with this bizarre segregation between genders, I can't even. I can't even begin to try and argue with it because of how intrinsically and inherently wrong their ideology is. So thank your doing it for me, Nick.
Literally when he said that my brain jumped to women I worked with as fellow “guest specialists” I was astoundeddd when he immediately took it to a secretary who is underneath him and does shit for him lmaoo
as a guy i can't recall ever immediately falling in love with any woman who interacts with me in a platonic way but since these men seem to know so much about opposite gender friendships i guess i must be wrong!
As a girl with many lesbians and straight males as friends, guess I have been wrong my whole life and these people who have capacity to be attracted to my gender MUST be attracted to me and want more right? Guess I should break every friendship I have and marry a dude who thinks only thing I am good is romance and sex! :)
yeah like i'm a dude and half of my friends are girls not fucking once i've had a crush on them just because they give me respect and treat me like another human being? damn these guys' life must be so sad
As a Christian this is not only embarrassing but this was so hard to watch that I couldn't finish this video. Good on ya for sitting through their podcast 😭
I don’t wanna make fun of Nik’s height, but I do find it funny that he always sits on the edge of the couch so that his legs don’t hang off like an Animal Crossing character’s do.
This seems like the most forced "Christian podcast" ever. None of the topics are even close to being Christian related. These are dudes just shooting the crap and calling is a religious podcast 🤦🏿♂️
@@austinm8334 No it's not it seems like it to people but we aren't I don't want to hate people, we live by the bible (Basic instructions before leaving earth) Adam and Eve were there in the beginning in the bible it says a pig doesn't go for a donkey and a horse doesn't go for a Giraffe (something similar) That how that fits in . Were not homophobic.
"if you're gonna hang out with women why not just hang out with men?"
as a gay man... this is definitely fruity
LOLOL
True 💪
They're THIS close to self-discovery.
Of course that self-discovery would break their brain....
Shhhh they’re super straight...they said it sooo many times..they’re still trying to convince themselves as well as convince us...but they’re like totally straight..duh!
Open up and suckle down on that gay juice, Marty!
"Sometimes she's your secretary."
And sometimes she's just, like, your coworker. Or, god forbid, your boss. Ffs
RIGHT LIKE WTF WAS THAT
People don’t even use that term anymore it’s like stewardess
women??? Being bosses??? And not making my sandwich and cleaning my nasty ass dishes?? Bruh Satan has gone too fucking far 🤬🤬
@@bump0005 😂😂😂
@@CyberrShrimp Yeah it is. It just replaced stewardess and now it’s flight attendant. Yeah I think people say personal assistant or sometimes receptionist but not secretary. It’s interesting how names for things change but sometimes it’s for the best.
Men trying to say they don’t see women as equals, and only consider them valuable when sex is a possibility without directly saying they don’t see women as equals, and only consider them valuable when sex is a possibility for 20 minutes.
20 minutes is awfully generous
Men like this don't last more than 5 minutes and they do not cuddle
@@GamerSisters LOL facts
@Judy Mwanzo the same feminists trying to still complain about a wage gap and how society is oppressing women instead of actually educating themselves....sheeesh what is this 2021?
@@roycereeves5456 How did you educate yourself about that?
Guys: “You can’t be in a platonic relationship with women.”
Jesus: *was in platonic relationships with multiple women*
Source: Trust me bro
@@Lucciii32 Mary Magdalene?
Maybe even more...
@@doorbel9084 nah he was just babgin her
Yup
One of them was even a prostitute... Who he was purely a spiritual teacher to... Told men to pluck out their own eyes if they felt the desire to sin when they were turned on by a woman
the podcasts name should be “women: explained by 5 guys who clearly don’t know a thing about them or have an ounce of respect for them”
Today on "Women: Do They Exist?" we'll be making up theoretical women in our heads and disagreeing with them.
and are extremely insecure.
The chadcast
@@Awesomeness785 more like trashcast
Well if you watch a show about bear or chimps at National Geographic, the narration is spoken by a human instead of a chimps.
They talk about feminism like the only feminist content they consume is “crazy feminist owned compilation part 13”
it very well might be. it's sort of encouraged in groups like that to never engage with the "enemy".
It literally is
Men like this hate feminists because it gives women the ability to say no instead of being property
@fright car what about feminism isnt needed? it aims to promote a healthy culture free from the negative expectations placed on the sexes? i think now more than ever its needed
@fright car abortion is literally being banned in texas what the fuck are you talking about
edit: also in a lot of countries, trans people are being stripped of their rights. trans issues are inherently feminist issues because there are a) trans women and b) trans men/enbies with uteruses. sex workers barely have any rights and are treated as criminals. i realize i might come off as aggressive but that's because i feel like a stance like that needs to be challenged. until gender is literally gone from the world, feminism will be important, because feminism isn't just "women's rights to do stuff".
Their talk about not being able to spend time with women they aren't dating/married to has "Mike Pence refusing to be left alone with a woman and bringing his wife everywhere" energy. Like it's not the respectful move they think it is ; it's just them admitting they don't know how to act around women
Not only that but it shows they don't value women other than as a partner? Like they see a woman and their minds just go to "must have sex to talk or be friendly"
And to go further, I don't think they value women as humans either tbh. To them it's just 'woman = friend you have sex with but you cannot not have sex' which is what dating is for most people anyway. And when it comes to half of the population it's just dating. Do they realize they have moms even? Women can be a whole a lot to you, sisters, friends, girlfriends etc. and yet they see women as not even human, alongside men.
@@suddypahp5224 they straight up believe the only women with LITERALLY ANY VALUE TO THEM are ones they can sleep with. shocked pikachu face when they get called sexist.
Growing up in a fundie church I wasn’t allowed to be alone with any man/boy besides my family, it’s a pretty prevalent thing
it’s a huge thing for fundamentalists. my dad used to bring me along when my mom wasn’t available if he had to talk to a woman at church. it’s called the billy graham rule :/ (obviously bc it was propagated by the protestant king of absent fathers and shitty husbands: billy graham)
@@AnnaRenee wait, like not even your dad or your brother?
"Women should treat their husbands like Jesus"
Sure, I'll consider that when my husband washes my feet, turns water into wine, walks on water, and revives after death.
That last one just sounds like life insurance fraud
@@WiseSageBum HAHAHAHA
I am a Christian and I actually read the scriptures you’re referring to and you hit the nail and pinned the tail on the donkey. You understand the Bible better than some Christian men out there!
A man should be willing to sacrifice his life for his wife. That’s the whole premise of marriage in the Christian context.
@@WiseSageBum wouldn't it be great tho? Hubby and I'd be so rich
@@moniquewrites9046 Not really the point of the comment but sure
“Emotional sex” is so funny because it means these guys are so against being close to women for things other than sex that they think any kind of closeness to a woman is inherently sexual.
They can just get it from men
lol they prob are referring to a literal crush but have no point of reference bc of no life experience ugh it’s so sad
This is an unfortunately very prevalent attitude, explicitly and implicitly (the former being most present in fundamentalists, the latter in non-fundamentalists, most typically) within Christianity.
@Babba Yaaga muslims as well !! i kinda stop going to a few mosques in my city bc the men or even their wives's or children look at me in disgust bc im not wearing a hijab i always wear muslimah clotes and i still feel undomfortable honestly, i ask this to my friend and he said "you better not look something that might give you lust" like... tf ? you got horny from looking at womens hair or what ? yeah i cut all ties with my friend shortly after that lol
@Babba Yaaga yup they called it purpling in my ministry smh
it makes me really happy when a guy i'm interested in has close friendships with girls, because it means he can see women as actual human beings, not sex objects
Yesss agreee
I had a boyfriend like this, but he was having sex with all of them and believed in the friend zone.
Even if they have actual male friends I'm impressed lol
ikr?? my boyfriend, although actually an introvert, tends to be sociable (unlike me haha) so he made quite a few friends while being an exchange student at my high school (how we met) - including the children of the host he was with - and some of them were girls. But he didn't really treat them different, he just was nice to everyone. I remember falling harder for him after seeing him interact with the daughters of the host family so genuinely - he even once sent me a picture after he let a couple of them put makeup on him lol~ It was adorable. (I think part of it was also because he wishes he had a little sibling growing up but he's an only child, so - either way, he's a precious man.)
Admittedly there was one time where I felt a little bad when he was interacting with another exchange student who was a girl - but that's because there was a misunderstanding on my end and I thought he liked her (and i have very low self-esteem due to my depression, so that didn't help) - we were both very oblivious to each other's feelings for a long time lmao.
Lmfao
them mansplaining the term mansplain is just perfectly ironic
_on_ a podcast called “mansplain” it’s just...too much
It's honestly a perfectly advertised podcast like this sounds weird but I didn't expect a podcast named mansplain to actually mansplain every fucking thing
deadass
There are men in that video? ...Where?
@@theomacer3094 haha true
As a bi woman I think it’s HILARIOUS when men say you shouldnt be friends with the opposite sex, like if we’re going by logic I couldn’t be friends with anyone
@@incognita1797wtf
@@theonewhosthere he said men are only sexually and romantically attracted to walking fleshlights, not women with personalities or a sense of humour. translation: men are vapid scum
The sad thing is that this is exactly why so many straight people don't trust us. They don't see it as possible to be just friends with people of the gender they're attracted to, so they perceive us bi people as sex-crazed and dyed in the wool cheaters.
For bisexuals, there is only prey.
@@incognita1797 You are out of your mind if you genuinely believe this.
It’s ok, us women don’t want to have a platonic or romantic relationship with men like that anyway. He does not need to worry.
Hell yes. Darwinism in action, folks. Ya love to see it lol
good god IMAGINE being “friends” with any man remotely similar to these guys. this is why i love ✨women✨
@@tabbyelder This is why most of my guy friends are ✨trans and non-binary ✨
@@tabbyelder Ahh women are so perfecttt 😌😊✨✨✨💖
@@tabbyelder I've heard some women saying the same shit as these guys. I just like people being men or women that don't think that way
i KNOW these guys didn't just claim that HETEROSEXUAL MALE FRIENDSHIP is being underrepresented in media in favor of gay relationships..... i wanna scream
It's weird that they connected sexuality to friendships, excluding with benefits.
It’s almost like they think gay people don’t have friends of the same gender
@@tyleroberg9986 bold of u to assume they’re going to be logical in anyway
It's true, I ALWAYS see gay relationships and RARELY ever straight ones represented on the Telly. It makes me feel for straight cis men😔
Yes the lone ranger was a very gay movie. So was the avengers and any movie with men working together. They were totally all super ultra gay.
"Women should treat their Husbands like they would Jesus Christ" Pretty sure that's like, literal idol worship
No - Idol worship would be failing to recognize Christ as Lord, and putting another before him. Woman honoring their husbands as they would Christ still place Christ as the highest standard. And this SHOULD go both ways - the point is that all of us have a speck of divine inspiration within us, made in the image of God, and thus we should imbue other humans with a certain measure of dignity and respect. This is the literal foundation for the Western notion of human rights. Also consider Matthew 25:40 "And God will answer, "Whatever you did for any of my people, no matter how unimportant they seemed, you did it for me" ' - this shows that because we're divinely inspired, good treatment of our fellow humans is akin to good treatment of God, and in fact a means of worshipping God. Also consider the parable of the good Samaritan - the idea that we should love our neighbor as ourselves, but also be the loving neighbor even if the other person doesn't deserve it, because we're respecting that the other person is a fellow creation of God. I imagine the verse these guys are drawing from is Ephesians 5:22 - "Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord". Submission doesn't necessarily mean blind, silent obedience - it means allowing and encouraging your husband to be the spiritual leader of the family unit. Because we've been so intent on erasing differences between sexes and replacing them with a spectrum of genders, we haven't questioned the functional roles these differences can play - An ideal family structure features man as spiritual leader, providing for his family and imparting high values, and woman as nurturer, demonstrating God's love to her family and creating a positive environment for the family. Both roles equally important, and both difficult to fully embody - not all men are cut out for leadership, and not all women are cut out for nurturing, and yet we must put God first and let him help us become who we were meant to be. Likewise, men are instructed to love their wives as Christ loved the church - this is as important as Ephesians 5:22, though many men do fail to live up to it.
@@bradyhayes9818 Im not gonna treat by husband like a God.
@@camillashimwa7671 As you shouldn't - wives are called to HONOR their husbands as they would honor God. That is, to have a willing and giving spirit, and to be faithful and loving. This doesn't mean wives are supposed to shut up and do whatever their husbands say, especially if the husband's demands conflict with God's. Rather, wives are to approach marriage considering how they might build up their husband through love and respect so that he might lead the family down the righteous path, though she ultimately serves God first. Likewise, the husband is to be a loving and gracious leader, walking with God and providing for his family. Though we are to 'submit' to God's will, he has given us free will so that we might choose his leadership, and he does not rule through fear and force. Likewise, the husband should not be sitting around thinking about the ways in which his wife could better serve his needs - that is her job. His job is to think about how he could better lead his family and serve them. Put simply, the Biblical recommendation is to be in servitude to your husbands, wives, your families. If submission was truly, and only, tyrannical, why should we submit to God? Submission is not derogatory - it is spiritually powerful. As Christians, we take power in empowering others through acts of selflessness. This is obviously a bit counterintuitive, because as humans, we tend to think of power as a means of controlling other people.
Some things are literal some things are figurative
@@bradyhayes9818 girl i aint reading your essay. Thé only person who I will treat and honour like God is God himself. Will I love my husband? Of course. Will I respect him? Of course. But will I bow down to him and worship him like he is God? No way.
what makes me chuckle is how they "don't wanna pursue friendships with women for the sake of their future wives" but how they gonna get wives if they're avoiding all female contact hahahaha
The irony, but it's good they destined that fate upon themselves.
@@bloblovlalalulu3422 definitely a blessing
True true fr that's a really good point lmfao 😂
That's exactly it they don't see women as friends or even as people, they see women as vending machines for intimacy
sometimes, natural selection truly is a beautiful thing
when one of them said "their standing up for women" in a mocking tone while laughing, it really showed that they are well aware that they're putting women down constantly.
They’re worse than men who don’t realise they’re doing it
they're men.... that's how men are like...
@@deadcorpse69 nah that's insulting to men who actually give a shit about women, these mfs aren't anywhere near that category
@@WCBProductions True. Stop generalizing all men as terrible and all women as saints.
@@WCBProductions to be fair "giving a fuck about women" is like... the bare minimum and stuff...
The amount of projection in every one of their stories about women is...astounding.
seriously,, they're so obnoxious
FRRR
Not surprising though, always projection and hypocrisy.
I was in a church which was more of a room above a store. Anyway projection was HUGE. Im a guy and one time they were preying me and one of them, this john legend lookalike, made this quip 'rebuking' my feminine spirit. I was humiliated it was in front of the other guys there. It was really bad and horrible. The other guys were always attacking my perceived lack of masculinity. Theyd REVILE my cross earring, it was literally everything they represent and they HATE IT. Now i believe Jesus is lord so i forgive em. BUT they better not. In anither church they had a whole ass exorcism ritual cuz they thought i was gay. Like im really not sexually promiscuous but still.
@@adonaiyah2196 bruh they did that for what, sorry you had to go through that
"Same sex affection is not same sex attraction". " You can't be friends with a girl bc friendship is relationship without sex"
Must be hella confusing to be them.
lmaooo so true
wow u sound very condenSENDing zülal
(also i 100% agree, the amount of contradiction in 10 mins in that "podcast"😩)
It IS hella confusing. I grew up in this world, and I've come to understand that Christianity is both hypersexualized and sexually starved, since they are taught to avoid sexual temptation CONSTANTLY, yet are not taught to look at women in any way other than potential sexual temptation... It's a cruel irony, and insanity. And, IMO, explains why so many of them get busted for sexually deviant behavior.
And this podcast is the blind leading the blind. Sad. 🤦♂️
@@TheGuardDuck there’s a reason the vatican is sus. Religion in general makes s*x such a taboo. S*xual suppression often leads to hypers*xuality or straight up s*xual deviance/crime.
@@FaerieElethia yeah. Took me too long to realize, the more you fight it, the worse it gets.
I went to Catholic school with John Michael in 8th grade. He was pretty much an arrogant bully. Below is what I remember of him:
He made fun of the guys who liked Lord of the Rings. Once, he railed into them because he found it stupid that they were saying aloud the title abbreviation, LotR, as “LO-DER”. (His struggle to grasp acronyms goes way back. If he had actually watched or read LotR, he wouldn’t need to lament “lack of close male friendships in media”.)
His looks made him popular with the girls. Our paths crossed sometimes as I was constantly on mission to blend in with all the other girls, in the hopes that being normal would make me less of a target for bullying.
On one occasion, I was lucky enough to sit at the edge of the popular girls’ table. Johnathan spoke in a very sexually explicit way to and about the girls. He recounted an incident in which he had seen one of the girls present getting out of the shower, and that he had seen her breasts. He teased her about their small size, and talked about feeling them up. Having come from a sheltered environment, I remember feeling so shocked by his gross behavior.
Another time, I was huddled around a year book in a group of girls with Johnathan. He started ridiculing the photos of people he believed to be ugly losers. Eventually, he pointed to my picture and made a comment about my supposed ugliness- Dead silence. No one laughed. I remember thinking, “He really doesn’t realize I’m standing right here, right in front of him.” The lack of response from the other girls tipped him off to my presence, so he fumbled about and tried to act like that’s not what he meant. At the time, it really hurt, but in hindsight, it’s pretty funny to have witnessed his lack of situational awareness cause him some mild embarrassment.
I like to think that people improve with time, but it’s likely that he’s more or less the same as he was 15+ years ago, albeit now with a public persona that presents as squeaky-clean & Christian. This man really do be 30 years old acting like he’s 13. :/
anyone can be saved
I am so sorry you had to deal with him when you were younger, but thank you for sharing! What a disturbingly sexist individual.
They're explaining the word 'mansplain' on their podcast called 'Mansplain' but clearly don't understand what 'mansplain' actually means.
It's a mansplainception.
okay this comment definitely needs more likes
what is mansplain?
@@joshualai5359 they honestly explained it well, its just a man explaining something in a condescending way, im not sure if this refers to a man explaining something exclusively to women or if it includes other genders but examples include men trying to explain cars and stocks and all that
@@joshualai5359 They were right that it is when a man explains something to a woman in a condescending way, but it also usually involves a topic that the woman is already more well-versed in than said man. An example could be a cisgender man explaining how periods work to a cisgender woman. It undermines the woman's first-hand experience and implies that they know more than she does, despite the fact that it is her lived experience. Another one could be a man who has taken one coding class explaining how computer science works to a female who is a programmer by profession.
just the fact nik is getting so subtly disrespected on his OWN podcast is so funny omfg
youd think that would make him realize how women feel in a room full of men like that, but his head is too far up his own ass. its so embarrassing...
LMAOO
fr fr which one is nick
@@calvinandsnobs the tiny short one
@@calvinandsnobs the guy in the middle on the couch
The way they talk about friendships with women just kinda proves they don’t see women as equal human beings, it’s honestly disturbing :(
Fr the fact that I have a pussy shouldn’t define whether or whether not I’m respected, respect should be mutual and if a guy doesn’t respect me I will not be respecting him
So true!!!
FeMaLeS are only there for one thing..sex. Obviously. Idk about you but I for sure don’t have a personality or feelings or goals or anything...o solely exist for my husband to use my body as his very own sex doll...duh 🙄
@@trashketchup1497 Fr Fr and we don’t have hearts either we are still just sex dolls who can’t be friends with married men might I add
@@addisoncundiff8293 and women just can’t not have feelings for these guys. because obviously if we are trying to have a friendship with anyone it’s with the ulterior motive of entering a long term romantic relationship with them. instead of idk just want to have friends. definitely not lol
Being heterosexual seems so stressful. This is the dating pool that straight women have to pick from?! 😦
No. The pool is much bigger than that. Fortunately.
For me I have a different reaction.
“Ohhhhh THIS is why it’s so easy for me? Because I treat people like equal human beings?”
Nah there's much better men, fortunately :D (seriously an example could be one topic and his friendgroup)
Ikr, so glad I don't need to enter the dumpster fire that is the dating world
As “one of the good ones,” (I feel weird using that statement) I’ve gotta say, I’m sorry and embarrassed and sorry that all straight women have to go through this
Their entire “dominant male” discussion feels like when tiny dogs feel the need to bark non-stop to seem intimidating.
When in reality a bigger dog would easily take them out lmao
@@quest8447 Truth. These guys are ankle biters in comparison to the rest of...well, a lot of people who aren't insufferable douchebags who think they're better than others simply because they are men, have way TOO many followers, and as they put it "close to God and Jesus". They're just obnoxious and loud. The more clout we give them, the more they'll spew their nonsense out on the rest of us who are just simply trying to enjoy life and make it day by day without being judged simply because of the color of our skin, or gender and sex, who we choose to go out with or marry, or what friends we have, what food we eat, etc....the list is quite frankly exhausting and long to go through. This whole podcast gives me such a huge amount of second-hand embarrassment for just how dimwitted and willingly ignorant they are.... and *condescending*, and using their own religious beliefs to excuse being a misogynistic, transphobic/homophobic asshole. Sadly this isn't even new, it's just that these guys are pushing their platforms of hate around and people watch them and give them views/ratings/followers. Like a little dog who just took a dump on your living room carpet and looked at you excitedly and tried to show that they have done something good, when reality - it's just shit.
@@RevanRA It's not a excuse to be that way , it's living the right way. Have you thought of it this way if Adam and Eve didn't sin you'd be a Christian. I don't want you to think I'm showing my "beliefs" on you. We're not hateful or judgmental we only want to help and do the right thing. These men still have a lot to learn coming from a woman😅 But I prefer Adam and Eve's mistake other wise Jesus didn't do His beautiful sacrifice.❤
Where do think you'll spend your after life? 🌟😁
@@lindy9741 I'm not against religion or religious freedoms, I'm against when people DO in fact use their religion to be hateful. I wasn't painting all of Christianity with a broad brush here, I merely just want peoples' different beliefs be respected. I am a spiritual man at heart, but I do not go around saying, "Oh, you're possessed by the Devil for believing in something different than me." I have no doubt you are a nice person who respects boundaries, but these guys are the definition of cringe.
@@RevanRA That is kind , cringing a little 😅😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
”Sometimes a woman is your secretary…” my jaw literally dropped
This sounded just pathetic to me. These guys talked in this section as if all of them were powerful CEOs who have secretaries to take care of their important business schedules. They are almost hopping into wattpad territory.
NO LITERALKYYYY
Forrealll😭
They are the reason we have workplace harassment PSA videos.
“platonic friendship” that’s literally just the definition of friendship 😭 these men need to read literally any book
Platonic is already intended in friendship.
@@lt8753 I know that's what I said
Like what do they do when a woman tries to talk to them who isn’t their girlfriend? Run away?
Eh friends with benefits is a thing so not necessarily a completely useless distinction
@@essr4580 if you're friends with benefits you're not really "friends"
as a lesbian, hearing them talking about friendships with women is cracking me up
How they keep saying "platonic friendships"- Brother that's just a friendship
It’s like saying romantic dating
It implies they have erotic friendships
Lmao I heard this in sixteenleos voice
Ah yes the floor is made of floor
@@DeathnoteBB 😏
It bugs me how many people don't recognize that a key element of mansplaining is that the woman already understands what is being "explained" to her, often better than the man. Sometimes they are literal experts on the topic being explained to them. It's the assumption that you couldn't possibly know what you're talking about or already understand that makes it so infuriating.
That is the best explanation I've read for mansplaining. Thank you!
Why it has to be specifically mansplaining? There is lots of other words for phenomena you explained quite specifically in your comment.
@@panepena7715 No, there aren't other words to describe the phenomenon of men "explaining" things at women who already understand the topic. It's called mansplaining because it's rooted in the sexist assumption that women don't understand what they're talking about.
@@nonaide Wouldnt that be a bit specific case to invent the word? Dont women do that too? Anyone with big ego does that. It may also come from experiences and assuming that the motive is sexist and making up words based on it is redicilous.
I'm going to school for microbiology and a woman mansplained gut microbes to me. She spoke to me like if I was a five year old. I didn't say anything to her. I wanted to see what she had to say. 😅🤣
"i dont like latinas, just blondes"
blonde latinas: *confused noises*
@@kingkris6877 do you know who this reminds me of? an austrian guy who made a disaster in germany back in the 40s ☠
@@kingkris6877 exactly
Oh please I wish the things men are saying they don’t like about women actually kept them away from these women. Men are easy af and they don’t want to admit it, that in the end women hold power over them with their bodies
He means he doesn’t like Latinas just blonde haired blues eye white women. Confusion cleared
@@c.carter3654 i mean... latinas can also be like this, but okay. confusion cleared
as a young christian i find it sad (and a bit hilarious) that some people still have this messed up idea of what being christian is all about
it breaks my heart just seeing them use religion as an excuse for misogyny, ignorance and overall being toxic af and hateful, and i hate when people assume im that narrow minded too just because of my faith :/
Same but I come from a Muslim family
The vibe of this podcast makes me feel like I'm at a party and I should cover my drink.
the vibe of this podcast makes me feel like i'm at a party and i should be calling my mom to come pick me up because i'm scared
this is such an accurate description
Legitimately
Literally
It feels like I’ve been dragged along by one of my female friends who knows this guy and I’m just sat there being forced to listen because they won’t let me speak
“I’m gonna go pet that dog I saw earlier”
Nick has dedicated himself to defeating all other Nicks in order to become the alpha nick. the Biggest Nick.
XD bro u did him dirty lol
Nick Cage is going to destroy him
“alpha nick” 💀
Shouldn't it be "sigma" Nick because they're better than alphas lol
He’s trying to be the biggest Nick-er ??
It’s funny how some Christians always bring up that women should submit to their husbands and honour them like God but will never bring up the fact that under that phrase it says that men should want to die for their wives and love them how Christ loves the church. 🤔
tell it!!!!! so true
First, you don't seem christian I would like you to know no one ever says to treat the husband like God. These dudes are a minority of a minority in a religion of 2 billion but yes, submitting to your husband is true as men should save their wives. Why is submitting to your husband or wife wrong? Both have roles in the family. Its okay for someone to submit and slave over their boss and work but for your family its somehow wrong?
@@profile1172 First, I’m a Christian and second I never mentioned that a person couldn’t submit to their partner - I was just pointing how one phrase is cherry picked and used in contexts that it wasn’t meant for ;For example being used by misogynistic men
@@profile1172 they aren't a minority
@@profile1172 you took her entire comment out of context.
6:40 “if a woman felt that it’s offensive then it’s offensive doesn’t matter if you were contending it or not it doesn’t matter” proves that none of these men paid any attention to their work place sexual harassment training.
They’re influencers, they probably have never been in a workplace with an HR department
“There’s nothing you can get from a friendship with a girl that you can’t get from a friendship with a guy. So girl friendships are unnecessary” yeah but. Hot take here. It’s not the gender of the friend that matters, it’s about the unique person. You can’t just exchange one person for another and expect the same experience cause every person is unique. It’s about the personality. I know, controversial opinion here.
And earlier in the podcast, they literally said you shouldn’t assign traits to someone based on their gender. So does gender matter or does it not matter?? 😂
Also doesn’t that statement literally put men and women on the same level 😭😂 like he’s saying they both offer the same thing in friendships sooooo why avoid friendships with women?
Let alone the implication that interactions with women are only valuable if they are romantic or sexual.
@@saram3449 yea cuz if its the same then how is one more necessary or unnecessary than the other
Like i'm being friends with a person not a gender tf
This whole group sat there for the entire podcast and said that women have no other benefits than being objects and wives and girlfriends which is so fucking sexist and it’s crazy that they all thought that those were ok statements to make.
and then theyre gonna be the same ones wondering why theyre single and blaming women for it. or theyre gonna be the same ones triggered when a girl doesnt want to have sex with them
Well to them there isnt a problem thinking that way.
“the word mansplained is sexist!!” and then they go on to say all of that shit like whattttt ok pick a side :/
They’re fundamentalist Christians. I don’t know what we expected. 😂
And secretaries! 😂
Just say women should cover their drink around you and go
br u h💀💀💀
excellent comment
Honestly!!!
Thats the vibe I get from them
d e c e a s e d
I would not feel safe by myself with any of these dudes. And this is coming from a Christian woman….
Your God-given intuition serves you well. None of these dudes are followers of Christ because their message is the opposite of His. They're dehumanizing and rejecting loving relationships with women; Christ humanized, uplifted, talked to, accepted, and redeemed women. The difference is like night and day.
@@FloppityFlopFlop777 I disagree. I don't see how Christianity is not mired in sexism, when we are expected to submit to our husbands as we submit to GOD. Scripture has very specific teachings that a woman's natural body and menstruation makes her impure, that she must hide herself to be cleansed and not be touched for a week after. Eve was famously made from a rib of Adam (weird since in real life men come from a woman's body) after his first mate Lilith didn't submit to him. The story of Eve and the serpent teaches that the pain of childbirth is the fault of a woman. None of this reads as respectful, peaceful, or loving. "Love thy neighbor" falls kinda flat when there's so many unloving ways Christians are expected to treat their female members. Religion is wielded as a cudgel against women worldwide, for the simple fact of them being women.
I do not deny that Christianity is responsible for good deeds, inspiration, and community across the world. But I also believe it's intellectually dishonest to say that Christianity serves women like it does men. How on earth can we expect text and teachings from 2000 years ago to NOT be intrinsically tied to sexism?
@bean dog LOL what?
I’ve never heard of the teaching that a woman’s natural body and menstruation makes her impure-and I’m Christian and was raised in the church. The Bible teaches that God created BOTH man and woman in His own image (Genesis 1:27). Anything that opposes that statement is false teaching.
Eve was created from Adam’s rib; Eve is Adam’s first and ONLY wife.
The Christian Bible does not mention Lilith as Adam’s first wife or as a wife at all. In the Christian Bible, Lilith is only mentioned once (Isaiah 34:14) in reference to a night creature, night bird, or a screech owl.
*Note: The name “Lilith” does not appear in every translation (e.g. KJV, NIV).
The Lilith you’re thinking of is found in Jewish religion-Judaism-as well as folklore. Christianity and Judaism are two different religions, so please do not confuse or combine the two.
According to the Bible, Eve gave birth to all humankind-except Adam-after her creation, which I believe is why we all come from a woman.
The Bible teaches that pain in childbirth was multiplied (Genesis 3:16) because of Eve’s sin, implying that childbirth was never going to be completely painless. Likewise, Adam was also punished for his sin. Notice that God didn’t appear until after BOTH Eve and Adam sinned (see Genesis chapter 3, any version). Thus, we have this verse: “For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23 ESV).
Still, God loves women-why would He hate His own children? There are plenty of revered women in both the Old and New Testament: Ruth, Deborah, Rahab, Esther, the Virgin Mary, Mary Magdalene and many more. Women are valued in God’s Kingdom just as much as men.
Men are told to “love their wives… husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself” (Ephesians 5:25-28 ESV).
If you ever see a Christian treating women as a whole in an unloving way, then they aren’t a Christian; they just claim to be. On Judgement Day, God will say to these people, “I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness” (Matthew 7:23 ESV).
You can trust that the Bible can be applied even 2000 years into the future-and counting-because the Bible says so. All Scripture is God-breathed (2 Timothy 3:16-17), therefore, it can be trusted. If you cannot accept this, you aren’t a Christian. Rejecting the Bible is the same as rejecting God (Hosea 9:17, Luke 10:16, John 12:48). It’s as simple as that.
Hope this helps!
"If I go to a subway and there's a female work there and I ask her to make me a sandwich, is that sexist?" Gives me the same feeling as " oh equal rights? Equal fights too right, right?"
At least she's getting paid to make that sandwich
I think he tried to make a joke but 💀💀💀
That comment was so weird. Like do you go to ANY restaurant and tell ANYONE
“Make me a coffee.“
“Make me pasta”
“Make me a burger”?
Like
The normal thing is “id like to order so and so”
That’s hella condescending and disrespectful to say to anyone who works in food regardless of gender
@@klarfaerie That comment says a lot about how he treats restaurant workers, or anyone that he feels is below him for that matter
@@thunderbird3304 not really
“I can’t have platonic relationships with women. The definition of a platonic relationship is still an intimate friendship, so the only difference between that & a woman I’m married to is sex”
So you admit it. You refuse to have relationships with women unless you can have sex with them
I love when chuds say something awful and then their response to being called out is "she's not gonna DM you bro." Like they cannot fathom that a person would have motivation for pointing out sexism outside of getting laid.
This part really stuck with me.
or that other men can simply disagree with them
It's such a despicable point of view to hold 🤮
Idk bro, I don’t think they’re cannibals, and it looks like they’re above ground.
literally they just project themselves on to everyone else
"Is there such thing as emotional sex?" I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I JUST HEARD.
I WAS BAFFLED 😭😭
How can girls always “friend zone” guys and “lead them on” while simultaneously always “want more from the relationship (friendship)” ?? Which is it ?? Cuz it can’t be both. PICK ONE??
Seriously. It's like all their source material for making these contradicting statements comes from different fictional movies or TV shows and not their own real life experiences lol
Yeah they gotta be specific it’s all situational some girls friendzone guys for attention some girls want more it’s fine just decided who you’d rather spend your time with
"CHOOSE SPIDERMAN!"
Being platonic friends with no expressed romantic interest from either side is "leading them on", if they're opposite genders (apparently???). (❓🤔❓🧐❓) Edit: but only female friends are capable of that. Male friends aren't.
This is what the boys are saying. Someone always wants more. It can be abusive and usury. Boys are friends with boys and girls are friends with girls. The rest are just acquaintances.
These guys are P U R E.
I love the discussion about men not being able to show affection towards each other without being called gay. Yeah? I wonder who started perpetuating that idea? I wonder who helped foster the idea that we need to be accusatory and suspicious of people who may or may not be gay. I wonder why our society feels the need to stick their nose in other people's business when it comes to who they want to date. Its crazy how blind they are.
it's so ironic how true this is. the majority of issues affecting men were created and are perpetuated by other men, but they always point the finger at women or feminists
Literally it's the fucking patriarchy's fault. Dafuq are they crying about when they are the ones doing it to themselves?! So fucking stupid and tone deaf oooooh it's makes me rage
@@WerewolfCat890 Especially when most feminists are the main ones trying to steer society away from stupid views like that. But because they use a few scary words like “toxic”, people are quick to jump to conclusions about what they’re trying to say.
this is the first reply section where i liked every comment LOL but yes!!! they blame women for everything although they were the ones who created this stigma in the first place???? it’s like that meme of that guy making himself fall off his bike and then proceeding to blame something/someone totally unrelated
All these replies, yep yep yep yep yepp and 100% agree such an intellectually stimulating comment section, I LOVE IT!
"No TV shows have guy friends unless they end up being gay with each other", I too hated it when Walter white left his family for Jessie and his drug empire
It was a really big twist when in the last episode of Psych Shawn married Gus instead of Juliet
Right! Or when Barney married Ted, or when Chandler and Joey eloped! We all remember those moments
YEAH! And in back to the future when Marty and the scientist eloped!
@@materialgworl7530 tbh Marty and Doc is the ideal sugar daddy and sugar baby relationship
I'm not even going to lie, that would've been nice.
"I'm not trying to have a platonic relationship with any woman" we know bro. We know
The fact that the podcast is called mansplained and then they all proceed to talk over each other and not listen to each other 😶😂
Too true!
Made me think it was satire, for a second...
The universe almost imploded when they were telling each other what condescending was 😂💀
As someone who was a female childhood friend of one of them, it's really disheartening to hear him think that way about our friendship.
I'm sorry, that sucks :(
Holy shit I’m so sorry
u dodged a huge bullet tho. i hope ur doing well in ur life!!!!
I'm really sorry dude you don't deserve to be treated that way
"your homeboys change sometimes. the thoughts rearrange in their brains sometimes. too hard dealing with the pain sometimes but you gotta let go you cant save their lives" - Dr. Lyle Ugleman
i at LEAST expected the podcast to be about christianity, lovin jesus and droppin some bible verses but it was just... shocking 😭😭
NO FR
FRRR
FR did they even bring up jesus at all😭😭
Pretty sure they just use the excuse of religion to be sexist and homophobic and they don’t actually give a shit about Jesus
@@lemonsugaru8166 yea.. so just the typical christian then
These guys need to understand that mansplaining isn't just a dad explaining rocket science to his daughter, it's a dad explaining rocket science to his rocket scientist daughter because he thinks he knows it better than her
12:18 As an ace person, it’s really wild that these people think the only difference between friendships and relationships is sex.
Oh man, I'm glad somebody else noticed-- I'm not ace (I am queer though, trans guy with a nonbinary fiancé, & we're straight passing IRL which tends to give me a sense of being an undercover spy on this culture), but I am super into romance, and while the best romance has a foundation of healthy friendship it's an entirely different beast with such intense feelings woven into it. Not understanding that honestly makes me feel like they haven't even experienced romantic love at all, just sexual attraction VS friendship. (Which is probably why they define themselves so deeply by their identity as heterosexual men, too.)
Not from lacking the ability to feel romantic attraction, but from not seeing their partners as human enough to get that passionate to begin with. It's nuts. You can hear it in the way they talk about girls. A partner to them is the 1 girl they think is sexually attractive and stay at home wife material enough to motivate them to suppress their sexual attraction for other women and commit to just the one. Incredibly objectifying, takes all the magic out.
One more note is that I think this makes guys (and the women stuck with them who know they aren't taken seriously) like this way more likely to cheat on their partners. Not that cheating is always logical, but a culture of defining relationships so much around sex means that if you get sexually attracted to anyone else while in a relationship there's not going to be enough of a deeper bond there to stop you from cheating for momentary thrill.
Majority of the time, sex becomes a little more familiar (not bad, just familiar) the longer you spend with someone, but I don't think a deep connection with someone can ever stop feeling novel if it's authentic. Almost six years into my relationship and I still wake up feeling like I'm a teenager experiencing their first love.
yes!! arospec ace here, these men really need to learn about the different types of attraction and relationships smh
Straight allosexuals should really hang out with aces and listen to them explain different types of attraction because not everything is just "sexual attraction." Many straight allosexuals don't like learning about queer relationships, so they also don't know that people experience relationships and attraction differently from them.
ikr??? this thought is so shallow
HONESTLY
Love how Gabe insinuates he can't like latinas cuz he's only into "blondes"? Who's gonna tell him being latin is an ethnicity and there are most def natural blonde latinas out there
He means he only likes white girls
But white Latinas exist..
@@DrovShorna right but he’s trying to avoid saying that by saying he’s only into “blondes” even tho anyone of any race or ethnicity could be blonde
apparently blonde is an ethnicity now....or latina is a hair color
Do you mean “latín isn’t an ethnicity”? Because you wrote it is, which is incorrect.
"If a wife can honor her husband like she honors Jesus..." But you're not Jesus, my guy, and you're saying she should put you or her husband on the same level as your god? Do you not see the blasphemy by your own standards? I'm an atheist, and it's readily apparent to me.
I could easily be wrong, as I was never part of the church either... but I think it's just another way of the patriarchy to exclude women. I think maybe they dont think women can have as strong a relationship with god as men do. So it's not blasphemy because women are only capable of loving God the same amount they can love and worship their husbands? Just a guess.
For an atheist who hasn’t read scripture, you sure are arrogant. Ephesians 5:22-24.
@@malsake3739 Just because the bible says it doesn't mean it isnt hypocritical. I am well aware of this verse as its precisely the verse that made me and my mom leave the church when I was young. She wasnt religious but took me to Sunday school in case I would get anything out of it. Now, telling my mother who ran our business, handled all financials, took care of me (without abusing me), and was the primary breadwinner to submit to my dad.. that wasnt at all acceptable. My dad stole 6k from me when I was a kid, took out 2 leans on the house and lost it, and crashed more businesses than I care to remember.
If it weren't for that, I might be a Christian today. You would think that saving souls would be more important than adhering to words a mortal man wrote ages ago but, I guess not. Oh wait... no sorry, saving souls is more important than that when it comes to mixed fibers and shell fish. Just not when it comes at the expense of male superiority.
Which is, again, hypocritical. Why dont you focus on your soul and I'll focus on mine.
Honoring your husband is basically showing your respect to him like you would respect Jesus. It’s not saying that they are on the same level of God. We know fully well that God is above us and we submit to his authority. Jesus is that saying wives should follow in suit with this same submission to their husbands. If you would like to discuss more I am happy to explain in a healthy way of course.
Are they gonna honor their wives the way they honor Jesus huh??
Them saying "honor their husband's like they would honor Jesus" is just blatantly them having a God complex, and wanting to be treated that way, which is taking the lord's name in vein
the fact gabe can’t say “condescending” has me cryin lmao
Condensending
condensending
condensending?
Condenscending
I think you mean condensending
the way these dudes can't even differentiate between platonic and romantic relationships? if you can't be friends with women that's a YOU problem buddy
The fact that one of them pretty much says the only difference is whether or not you're having sex is just wild
Yup
How the fuck do they even interact with their mother or sisters??
they should just date each other or something at this point
"You only need women in your life for marriage. Aside from that, only men." Damn can't believe I have to cancel my mom and sister 😫
If they like men so much why don’t they just marry them
also big nik is famously close with his mother… so like does he just not talk to her anymore???
@@fart63 Fr like why even leave that out? We're all for adam and steve yknow😏
@@soodleroodle2017 she probably disowned him, I would too.
6:40 I appreciate the toddler level logic of "Well I didn't intend that so it could never happen", just the idea that he could fuck up without actively intending to do so isn't even a concept this man has ever considered
Maybe when having theological discussions about women, you should have some women involved???? Or literally anyone who is actually educated on biblical language, history, and interpretation
As someone with a Master's in Theology, these kinds of discussions are the theological equivalent to Temptation Island :D I watch them for the sweet tingle of cringe
@@palapeura375 I can’t imagine how frustrating it would be to hear such misinformation haha
@@cc-terfay Haha :D But seriously, I'm more pissed about how these types spread misogyny and racism than them being misinformed, as understanding of religious texts is never fixed anyway. (And folks with little or no theological knowledge can live a life of love and caring for their neighbor.) These asshats use religion as a tool for clout.
But that would open them up to criticism. They don't want to have a discussion. They want to be right.
dude are you serious? you want them to talk to a women?! that would be cheating! think of how devastated their future wives would be if they found out they once spoke to a female human being.
it’s honestly terrifying hearing grown men talk like this
Fr, I like to pretend that these kinda people don’t exist/aren’t common for my own sanity but damn.. when you come across shit like this? It’s genuinely so depressing, and scary.
Many young guys feel that way. Its not this bad lol
I’m not terrified. They are honestly pathetic and can’t terrify
@@Cameracat89 it is bad because they clearly don’t respect women and create a straw man when insulting feminism to where I genuinely wonder if they’ve ever spoken to a feminist in their lives. It’s not ok. Because women deserve to have respectful men in their lives who won’t treat them like potential property.
@@dont_harsh_my_mellow Exactly 💯
its a huge red flag if your boyfriend cant have a single woman platonic friend
I didn’t realize how prevalent this idea was until I started watching _90 Day Fiancé_ (a reality show). Many people on the show get territorial and insecure when they hear that their partner is maintaining platonic friendships during the new relationship. _Sometimes_ the distrust is justified.
My mom actually agreed that it is appropriate for a person to set aside their opposite-sex friendships if they’re making a lifetime commitment to a romantic partner. I feel like true friends are way too rare to dispose of like that.
After seeing so many negative reactions, I get the idea that opposite-sex relationships which are _truly platonic_ are less common outside of modern “western” cultures…
I have had male platonic friends since I was a tomboy in grade school. I promise you, I never wanted to "schtup" any of those dudes. They were like my brothers. I am also happily married to a Viking built, former bouncer manly-man. He would laugh these guys right out the door. Misogyny is so gross.
@@noOnionswithoutTears preach ✋😩
@@crnkmnky “i get the idea that opposite-sex relationships which are truly platonic are less common outside of modern “western” cultures…” as a person living in asia, yep.
i can’t tell you the amount of times i’ve seen in korean dramas where the male or female lead make a big deal out of the other person being friends with someone of the opposite sex, in fact, it’s always used as one of the biggest conflicts in the drama. worse yet, the plot always turns out that the friend indeed had a crush/romantically liked the lead, which just fuels this misconception even more. i stopped watching romantic dramas altogether because i feel like many of them just portray romance inaccurately.
irl, i feel like this mindset might’ve partly affected me making friends with guys because growing up all my friends were females and even right now in my 20s, i have like 1 guy acquaintance, and no close guy friends at all. but i’m able to recognise that males and females can have platonic friendships. in fact, i had to be corrected on 2 separate occasions that some of my friends WERE in a relationship, even though to me they looked like they were just close friends, but they dubbed me as just oblivious. and again, it doesn’t help with improving my perception of this area lol. (yeah i have some strange issues with men and romance)
also if he stops you from having male friends YIKES
They think of women the same way 4 year old boys think of girls
The way they're just spouting incel rhetoric so casually
4channelling the spirit of the lord
@@theomacer3094
I hate the fact that I understood that
@@theomacer3094 this was funnier than it had a right to be
right... hating on women this much.. it did sound incel-ish to me
yikes
The way that Christian men will talk about women with hate in their eyes is genuinely one of the scariest things
ikr…
The way white women will say this about Christians considering women in Christian countries have equal rights. While women in other countries do not but white women will never say anything about Islam or Hindu the same as Christians
Islam is undoubtedly worse
@@profile1172 the way that most white women grew up in the western world where the dominant organized religion is Christianity.
@@archaichermit3566 Yeah, very hypocritical I would say. Western world has the best human rights in the world
It's such a common thing, but it's so jarring to hear them reduce pretty much everything to tokens. "I like blondes and Latinas" makes it sound like he's listing his favorite color or a 1st grader saying his favorite food on the first day of school
ikr it’s insanely dehumanizing
can't people have preferences
@@jsmooooov Sure. Why reduce a person to nothing but that, though
@@jsmooooov racial preferences are definitely not ok.
@@jsmooooov yeah but like saying “blond and latina women/girls/ladies” instead of just “blonds and latinas” sounds way better bc it indicates that the guy recognizes women beyond just being bodies/objects
The friend zone is just the “oh god not this guy again” zone
Man left the vlog squad because he was being bullied for something he couldn’t change, now he’s bullying people for something they can’t change. Hm.
Sad cycle
What can't people change?
@@strawberryfields6917 they’re talking about physical appearance not personality
@@strawberryfields6917 Things like him bullying people for being gay.
@@areyoulostbabygorl231 Technically not bullying he is saying that it is wrong.
You know when someone is just a bigot, it's easier to accept. What really grinds my gears are people like this who insist they are doing the morally righteous thing, and use that moral compass to essentially exclusively do and say horrible shit.
I know right??
Exactly. And on top of it they have ”platforms” and are doing it publicly, influencing other gullible people. Sad
The Gospel is being told by Christians we warn you that your about to fall of a cliff? It's warning and leaving you to decide.
@@lindy9741 Except other beliefs aren’t “a cliff”. Stop shoving your beliefs on everyone else
@@DeathnoteBB There is only one true God it's not even a religion it's a relationship with the creator of the universe and you. I get what your saying by shoving while other believers don't do what we do but we do do it for a reason, this is your evidence that it's the best for people on earth cause He's the solution for us, even us aren't perfect nobody is but God , devil is real God , Jesus and the holy spirit is real. It's not fiction or nonsense it's the truth. But it's still not showing.
The way they blamed theoretical women for why they can’t be friends with women is,,, something. Like their whole argument for why they can’t be just friends with women was because of their imaginary future girlfriend/wife
EXACTLY!! their idea of a woman
@not relevant we should all be like them they are setting an amazing example!!
this is a joke ❤❤
These are the type of people that should have no friends regardless of gender.
I don’t think your definition of friend and their definition of platonic friendship are the same, so I think you’re jousting at windmills here. I’m a Christian male and fan of Titus/MANSPLAIN guys and I agree with them 100% on this subject. I have female friends but no deep emotional connection with them and I couldn’t really see myself wanting to hang out with any of them 1on1. I don’t think I’d even describe myself as having a deep emotional connection with my male friends tbh. I think these guys are reserved with their emotions and that’s why the deep emotional connection thing is a big deal. I’m the same way, I have emotional connections with family members and my wife only really.
@@malsake3739 I um hate to be the bearer of bad news but friendship is platonic until they get romantically involved…. Like that’s of the meaning of platonic. So whatever you’re saying here makes absolutely no sense
Hearing straight people talk about how they don't think it's possible to be just friends with people of the gender they're attracted to is really eye-opening for why they treat gay men, lesbians, and bi/pansexual people with such high levels of fear and distrust.
15 year old me feels personally attacked but that's okay because he DEFINITELY deserved it
Totally relatable KKKKKK dumb young me
Same lol
Hey we love growth dude! it’s alright
The character growth is sexy
Cheers, I'll yabbadabb to that brother.
(do love the username)
it is physically painful to see these guys all agree that "same sex affection is not the same as same sex attraction," yet not be able to come to that same realization when it comes to opposite gender relationships. affection and emotional intimacy do not equal a romantic/sexual relationship. it's just incredible how they got SO CLOSE yet are still so far away 🙃
Someone should edit the whole podcast and just show them saying something good (or at least something that makes sense) and just follow it up with them contradicting themselves
@@JustLikeMagic101 an edit like that but every time they like put the pieces together and start getting there, there’s a meter building up that just empties when they go off track lmfao
@@gargles5270 I was about to say that someone should do that but let’s not give them any more views, they don’t deserve them lol
that one guy being like "I don't think platonic relationships are important" you just know he's the type of guy who treats his girlfriends like they're his partner, mother, and therapist all in one. We need to tell men it's okay for them to be vulnerable in platonic friendships with each other and with women too!
the way that titus said "if a woman is your.. secretary" was so condescending, like he couldn't fathom a female co-worker that wasn't below him 19:39
It took 40 minutes for them to say they'd rather just kiss each other.
John Michael & Titus def want to kiss one another
they need name tags, there’s no way i’m expected to remember the names of THIS many misogynists
Don't bother sis ✋ u don't wanna have their names living in ur head rent free
They need GPS tags so I can be warned if any of these spastic zealots are getting close to me
he "can't have a platonic relationship with a woman"?
why does he only want male friends? 🤔
he only wants to be around men all the time? 😳
bro that's kinda.....👀
You can’t form meaningful connections with women 🤔 kinda sus bro ngl
Exactly, like why you wanna be around men 24/7?
BE WHO YOU ARE FOR YOUR PRIDE 🌈
Some of these types of guys, the ones that hate women, seem a little dubious. If you hate women so much just date a guy lmao
Sus
very interesting way of coming out 🧐
Them saying a man and woman shouldn't be friends because you can gain anything from a woman is so sad, because like... Friendship isn't about what you can gain from a relationship. That's such a sad way to look at relationships of any type.
right? like- just have friends, maybe? and the way that one guy rated his friends just shows that he’s so confused about friendships
but like.. I’m bisexual. I’ve had deep, loving, romantic relationships with people of all genders. so what am i supposed to do, not have friends? these people need to educate themselves lmao
In the eyes of these men, the world basically revolves around them. I doubt they even know the definition of intersectionality. I guess bi/pan people just explode in their world ig
I'm pan so I guess I'm not allowed friends with anyone lmaooo
Of all genders? Or do you mean just 2 genders unless your actually pan-
@@vincentvitug190 Lol. Allllll those genders, wow.
Well I mean, according to them you probably don't exist, because anything further than LG got left out of the Bible
Aww yes, love taking advice on how to be a man from Big Nik and Jonas brothers knockoffs
Lol
JONAS BROTHERS KNOCK-OFF 🤣😭
"there are no examples of male/male friendships/affection in television" my guy had to melt his brain so hard to say that that he just forgot the entirety of every single lord of the rings movie
Steve and Bucky from the Marvel Cinematic Universe as well. They were very affectionate towards one another. Including Sam and Bucky
@@athenasuperheldin1017 and FRIENDS series lol
Uncle iroh and Zuko...
troy and abed…
wait why are we even listing examples? it’s harder to find examples of confirmed gay couples on tv
Sasuke and Naruto kissed and they big buds OG friends
Their podcast is the perfect example of group think cus they all reinforce each other rather than challenging one another to keep thinking about what they believe…
What I'm getting from their stance on male/female friendships is that they think women are too stupid to understand platonic vs romantic feelings. Meanwhile, they have the critical thinking skills of a bunch of seventh-grade boys. It's embarrassing.
They went too far with that. To a certain degree I understand trying to make your partner comfortable, for example I personally wouldn’t be alone with another girl, I would have someone else with me. To each their own, set up boundaries in a relationship, it doesn’t have to be black and white.
@@tyleroberg9986 it is true that it’s all about what you feel comfortable with, but the issue is they don’t say that at any point, if they feel they operate a certain way, that must be the only way to do it. I would have 0 issue if my partner who is a man was to spend time with a woman 1 on 1. If I wasn’t okay with that, I would start to question why I don’t trust my partner to be faithful to me.
If my hypothetical partner felt like he couldn't have healthy, platonic relationships with women... I would be very concerned. That's a red flag.
My ex boyfriend was skeptical about same sex friendships (while claiming that a woman was his best friend lmaooo) and yes, that's definitely a red flag. He was a POS who objectified women. It made me really uncomfy whenever I mentioned talking to a man and he'd tell me "he just wants to sleep with you, that's what guys are like" aight bro way to tell on yourself for not being able to view women as equals.
@@KreeZafi that's a yikes. I'm glad you got out of that! Hope you're doing well now.
right??? if they feel like friendship with women doesn't exist, it's because something is clearly wrong with the way they treat women. but of course none of them is self aware enough to realize this 💀
I had a boyfriend who got really upset any time I didn't wait for him to open the door for me...so I would argue there is a way to open a door for a woman ...um... sexistly... however, it's not just the act itself...
I found his way very condescending, which is ironic since holding door for someone is supposed to be the show of respect... In the day to day life, if I get to a door and there is someone I know behind me, or someone older, I'll hold the door for them. When is the situation in reverse, I am ok with someone holding the door for me... what I am not ok with, is the guy running and basically showing me aside in order to get to the door first, pouting if he doesn't accomplish this, and then complaining that he can't even open the door for his girlfriend, because "everything is sexist now"... Like...get a grip...
Or when a man (whom you possibly don't know) gets behind you and holds the door above your head! Like, sir, personal space please.
Sound like you lost a real gentleman, females don't appricate those anymore smh /s
Nailed it 🙏🏼
@@khodges72 lol stfu he was being obnoxious
@@DaraOrtiz just a misunderstanding my dude, the other person put /s on their comment which indicates sarcasm !
The Starbucks tiktok... my man walked in, didn't order, didn't pay and just went "I'll take that to go"
Titus sounds like that kind of high school boy who thinks talking as fast as he possibly can makes him sound smarter than everyone else
so Ben shapiro
@@dankwojak3689 DAMMIT! That's exactly what I was going to say. Got there before me...
💀💀💀💀
I legit said "damn, slow the fuck down" like four times during this video xD fucking A++ observation, OP
yess and gabe thinks that talking louder makes you sound like you are right
it's actually true, that opening up about your emotions to someone of the opposite sex makes you date. me and my male best friend talked about our individual traumas and the next day we woke up with wedding rings and even an official paper. be careful who you open up to
Oh shit, my best friend of nearly 5 years is a man and I'm a woman... We've shared all sorts of emotional stuff with each other (including him telling me about his crushes). Damn, guess we're dating.
Just bc that happened for your doesn’t necessarily reflect how true that it is. Ive been best friends with someone of the opposite sex for years and we often are in a place of emotional vulnerability with each other, doesn’t ever end up in any other feeling apart from plutonic. Idk if that was satire tho lmao
@@groovydiphenhydramine9707 it is satire😭😭
@@KreeZafi congratulations💕
Congrats on your marriage!
“Overly confident Christian men, who have a lot to say about masculinity and feminism” Now that is a terrifying combination
Even more funny since they have nearly nothing to say
Overconfidence is usually just them overcompensating for insecurities
Having grown up in the church with this bizarre segregation between genders, I can't even. I can't even begin to try and argue with it because of how intrinsically and inherently wrong their ideology is. So thank your doing it for me, Nick.
Soo telling how when he's working with a woman she's his "secretary" and not his coworker or equal 😭
Literally when he said that my brain jumped to women I worked with as fellow “guest specialists” I was astoundeddd when he immediately took it to a secretary who is underneath him and does shit for him lmaoo
Secretary isn't even used much any more. They're called administrative assistant. It sounds more professional.
as a guy i can't recall ever immediately falling in love with any woman who interacts with me in a platonic way but since these men seem to know so much about opposite gender friendships i guess i must be wrong!
As a girl with many lesbians and straight males as friends, guess I have been wrong my whole life and these people who have capacity to be attracted to my gender MUST be attracted to me and want more right? Guess I should break every friendship I have and marry a dude who thinks only thing I am good is romance and sex! :)
yeah like i'm a dude and half of my friends are girls
not fucking once i've had a crush on them just because they give me respect and treat me like another human being? damn these guys' life must be so sad
As a Christian this is not only embarrassing but this was so hard to watch that I couldn't finish this video. Good on ya for sitting through their podcast 😭
Fr! Setting bad examples for everyone 😪
Yeah they’re making us look bad I would’ve clicked out the first 5 seconds
All we gotta do is pray and hope that they grow in their understanding and really let God do the talking next time 🥲
agreed
so true 😔 it makes me so sad, i pray they understand what the Bible *really* means, and they love others instead of being so rude and offensive 😭😭
As someone you was forced to go to christian private school in high school….their whole vibe gives me war flashbacks
I don’t wanna make fun of Nik’s height, but I do find it funny that he always sits on the edge of the couch so that his legs don’t hang off like an Animal Crossing character’s do.
No problem 😆
Hes so cute!! I'd dominate the hell out him 😍 so cute ❤️
@@MangoPop 😂😂😂😂
@@MangoPop wut
THE NOISE I JUST MADE GDKSJCSJDJS
"in TV shows you can't have close male relationships without it being gay"
Troy and Abed, in unison: "they're just jealous"
Otis and Eric in Sex Education (which they probably wouldn't watch in the 1st place)
Also Scott and Stiles, they're my favs
Also there's more male best friends than gay males in tv shows gay people do not get alot of repersentation!
PLS- I was just watching community
This seems like the most forced "Christian podcast" ever. None of the topics are even close to being Christian related. These are dudes just shooting the crap and calling is a religious podcast 🤦🏿♂️
It's to try and stop criticism I think
Maybe your listening to the wrong types of podcasts. Listen to Jeanine Amapola and Prompt us on Spotify if your curious
😊👌🏻
Lol idk I mean sexism and homophobia seem to be on brand for Christian related things.
@@austinm8334 No it's not it seems like it to people but we aren't I don't want to hate people, we live by the bible (Basic instructions before leaving earth) Adam and Eve were there in the beginning in the bible it says a pig doesn't go for a donkey and a horse doesn't go for a Giraffe (something similar) That how that fits in . Were not homophobic.
i think theyre mistaking platonic friendships w friends w benefits☠️☠️