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Thank you for sharing this. I have a 1984 Hurst Oldsmobile and it has the single piston caliper. I just got back from pick-n-pull and I got everything as a complete unit I spent about $120 for everything. I’ll be cleaning everything up and adding drilled and slotted rotors. Again thank you.
ALL PROPS FOR YOU DOING SOMETHING WITH OUR CHILDREN IS ALWAYS GREAT THANK YOU
Thanks for explaining the best way to get her done 🇵🇷
Wonderful stuff
Use the same year master cylinder, but from a RHD mail carrier S10. Then the outlets on the master on on the same side as the G body. 👍
Anyone have a part # for a postal mail carrier S10 master cylinder? Would be most helpful...
@@jlee3568 so...
I have found that the S10 master with a 1" bore is not quite cutting it. The peddle travel is ridiculous. I'm going to a 1.125" bore from a mid '90s 1/2 ton next to tighten it up. With stock brakes it probably is fine. The booster must be stronger or something, factory 4th gen F body is a 1" bore (my front brakes are 2001 Trans Am) so it should have been fine.
Just look up a master for a 2001 S10 on RockAuto, just keep scrolling and you'll find the RHD mail carrier version.
Got to save this
I finally splurged for a set of these today. I've been wanting to cut the ball joint mounting locations off and relocate them for a 1.5" drop and to correct the poor gbody geometry and bump steer. The purpose is to use them to make a mold to cast them myself and because of the bolt on hubs I wouldn't need a machine shop 200mi away to bore a hole and press the spindle shafts in. Simply drill and tap the holes and it would be drop spindles combined with a factory brake and steering upgrade. I'm hoping I can get around to it sometime this summer. May do the 1st few prototypes with aluminum because it's easier to work with and on tooling.
They make drop spindles for an S10 that would bolt on.
Love pic a part so nice not playin in mud like here in Buffalo ny
Wow allot of information here Thanks!! Quick question, I noticed you swapped to the blazer master cylinder did you keep your old proportioning valve. The Blazer valve has 2 in 2 out where old school Chevy's have 2 in and 3 out. Please let me know, I plan on doing this upgrade and need to know what to get out of the donor Blazer. Thanks and God Bless!
thanks for watching. I just kept the stock Malibu combo valve. works great! Please give the video one of those up thumbs if you don't mind.
nice do the rear too
i have the same rims on my elco!!
I used a 2002 s10 4x4 rearend for Marvin the astre a h body car
The 4x4 blazer axles are too wide to use without making major changes to the wheels and tire setup. It's good to know there is some other options!
This is the most detailed G body brake upgrade using Blazer 2wd swap.
Good video 👍🏻
Would it work for a 1993 -1996 Cadillac Fleetwood ?
Nice job
Hey man, great video and sweet car 🔥 im curious if the blazer spindles change the height of your ride at all. Thanks
It's basically the same. if you use the older S10 truck spindles with the smaller brakes, you can get aftermarket drop spindles.
What prop valve do you recommend for rear disk upgrade?
Search for a PV-101. It's a disk/disk prop valve and connects up just like the original.
Did u also get a new proportioning valve, did the rear conversion and brakes seem locked
Thanks really helpful what about rear disc brakes the same but need know where or what mounting brackets bolt on rearend ill send you tip for helping me I appreciate your expertise advice really ,Thanks a lot.
If you are looking for which brakes bolt up to the stock axle, I don't know. I only did the rear disc brake upgrade on the Ford Foxbody Mustang axle. That can be seen in this video th-cam.com/video/_Jqql4zOLlE/w-d-xo.html . For disc brake options for the Stock Body rear axle, go to www.gbodyforum.com and search for rear disc brake upgrade. That's all the help I can provide because I have no experience upgrading the stock Gbody rear axle.
This may be what I'm looking for I swapped a 1998 mustang GT into a 1982 Buick Regal trying to figure out if I should buy a new master cylinder or use the Ford proportioning valve or both. This car runs 12 flat in a quarter mile I can't be racing when my brake pedal goes to the floor.@@BurnoutsAndRotorblades
How much better is the brake quality when swapping?
Before I wondered if I could stop in time, now I have to be careful to not lock up the brakes.
Thank you so much
@@BurnoutsAndRotorbladessame here ! i have to be careful not to lock up . i also swapped out prop valve to a disc/disc. do you have a bit of travel on the brake pedal with the blazer master ? had a 79 TA disc/disc Master with 1 1/8 bore & switching to the s10 blazer 1” bore master made a longer pedal difference
Would this work on a 1978 El Camino? Just asking since I had read up that the early G Bodies are a bit different from the later model G bodies. Also would I need to go to a 16"+ wheel? Currently have 15"s that I really like.
@@BurnoutsAndRotorblades oh alright then thank you so much for your quick answer. If I may ask 1 more question. Is the rear the same thing where I can use the Blazer stuff to bolt up like factory? I know that I would probably need to upgrade the rear lines.
@@BurnoutsAndRotorblades got ya. Thank you so much for your help.
The honest answer is, I don't know. However, if I do a super lazy search for GBody spindles on summit racing the '78 El Camino is grouped in with the other Gbodies. I have never tried to put anything smaller than 17' wheels on the front of mine post brake swap so I don't know for sure, but the 2000 Blazer did come stock with 15x7 wheels. Wheels were gone when I got the brakes. www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-csum77m500/applications/make/chevrolet/model/el-camino
www.google.com/search?ei=QyJBXeaaIa3J0PEP65GqgAs&q=2000+blazer+wheel+size&oq=2000+blazer+wheel+size&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i70i251j0i22i30l3.2416.5070..5239...0.0..0.293.1183.0j4j2......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0j0i10.0I_xTSrS-7E&ved=0ahUKEwimyMzosd7jAhWtJDQIHeuICrAQ4dUDCAo&uact=5
I didn't use a blazer rear. I have a whole other video about using the Ford 8.8 rear and then using the Blazer rear discs on that. To be honest, I don't see why you couldn't make the Blazer rear brakes work on the stock 7.5, but it won't be bolt-up. there will at least be drilling of new holes.
Would a 1999 blazer work for 87 Monte?
I believe so.
Do you need the master cylinder if you just upgrade the front? And can you also use 15 inch rims? I'm asking because that's the rim sizes I have on my 83 El Camino =D
@@BurnoutsAndRotorblades thanks I appreciate it a lot, keep on burning rubber! ✌
Technically no. The proportioning will be a bit off but thats it. The need for the new master comes from changing over the rears from drum to disc.
Great video! 2000 S10 master cylinder NM 3068 who makes it? Where did you purchase from?
Auto zone I believe
With this swap can I still use the 15 inch rims or do i need to go bigger ???
yes you can still use 15 inch rims
You have to go bigger I believe if the rotor is 14” you need 18 or better
@@dat_mf_tae9865 rotor is still 10", it's a little thicker than g body. The right 14" wheel will fit.
Could you use S-10 2wd pickup hubs
Yes, but the brakes are smaller.
I dont have any experience with this conversion however I have read that this can cause bump steer problems. Can you comment on weather you have had any issues with bump steer after this up grade?
That is a great question, but. . . I mostly use this car for full-sending used tires to their final resting place. So, it's not a precision driving instrument. Secondly, the car is so willowy and the front end has every stock piece of rubber from the 1980's still in it. There could be some hidden bump steer, but I honestly haven't noticed if there is.
Do you have any problems with wheel fitment? I heard they rub with 15 inch wheel
S10's came with 15's. I like the 17" look better though.
Question .Do you need to change the master cylinder?
I did when I changed the rear from drum to disc.
I take it that the s10 truck 2wd will work also
I think the S10 pickup has a single front caliper and makes it a moot point.
Here is the link:
gbodyforum.com/threads/gbody-lower-control-arms-and-spindles-same-as-s10-and-blazer.65689/#post-588599
So would I need to get a pro proportioning valve well for the rear discs?
I just used the stock combo valve with no issues
Did you have to change the rear brake lines as well?
I live In Canada and a 2wd blazer is unheard of now I all ready have a set of beltech spindles I have not yet installed so my question for you is if I got to the pull apart get 4wd spindles and breaks can I make that all work for my cutlass of course using the drop spindles?
@@BurnoutsAndRotorblades thanks for the reply !
No, must be 2wd Blazer. I had to get my spindles out of the States as there were none in any wrecking yards in BC or AB.
I'm just going to be honest and say I don't know. The front 2wd vs 4wd spindles look different in a quick google search, but I can't say for sure without them in hand. The belltech stuff I have no experience with. I would call belltech and ask to be completely honest. I'm sorry I cant be more help. Good luck.
Wound the 1988-2000 s10 blazer drop spindles fit a gbody as well? Wanting to drop the front of my 84 Monte 2 more inches but would also like to do dual piston calipers
Mark gochnour you can use the older style spindles, but then you’re stuck with old style bearings, discs, and calipers. I don’t know if there is a 2000 blazer drop spindle.
So do i use the factory lines on the car for front calipers
I used some from an S10 because mine were old and crusty.
I did the s10 blazer brake and master cylinder swap but my brake still like its not getting enough power what can i do?
did you make sure the combination valve is properly bled?
Do you change out the proportioning valve to the blazer one ?
Negative. It works great with the stock stuff.
So are you using the stock old proportioning valve that came with the car
Thank you for the Info.
any issues using the blazer master with stock g body rear drum?
I would not recommend that. Drums require more fluid to move than discs.
I did a rear conversion but I want to use the blazer brake master cylinder, did u simply bend the lines to the other side without any issues and will it matter if I did the rear conversion with the master cylinder upgrade and proportioning valve upgrade. I plan on doing da front in a few months
I did just hand-bend the lines around to the other side. My lines were in good shape, so if yours are rusty it might not work out well. If you do the discs in the rear you’ll need the s10 master cylinder.
Could I use that master on a after market rear brake conversion kit?
If I'm honest, I don't know. You can compare the bore and stroke to the recommended master from the aftermarket source. Best bet is to call the aftermarket company and ask.
What all year blazers you can use?
Can you still run a 14" wheel with this setup?
I did for a while.
Are the C5 Z06 the only model that fits this application
Anything with a bolt on caliper will fit. You just need the right adapter bar or make your own. I made one to fit 2002 Trans Am because I wanted no bigger than 16" wheels. Rotor is 12"×.875 IIRC.
Is there a specific year range for the Blazer/ S10? I noticed you only said 2000. And last question would an Oldsmobile Bravada setup work as well I heard it was the same platform as the Chevy Blazer. My local junkyard has both 2002 and 2004 models.
Any of the blazers of that bodystyle will work. I believe Bravada parts will work, but I can't confirm. Just check the codes in the glovebox.
@@BurnoutsAndRotorblades Thanks for the feedback I can verify that Oldsmobile Bravada years 1998 thru 2002 will fit on the G bodies as well
We don't have much here locally. If I were to order these parts, what would the correct labels be? I want to make sure I order what is needed. Thanks!!
I didn't look up stuff by part number. Maybe a dealership can give you a parts breakdown with parts numbers to order from.
@@BurnoutsAndRotorblades I meant like...what am I asking/looking for (by name)? Upper and lower A-arm? Spindle?
What yard were you at in this video?
North Las Vegas Pic a part
What’s that bolt pattern I used this set up but my wheels want fit
the wheel lug pattern is 5x4.75"
The stock booster works with that cylinder???
yes it does!
@@BurnoutsAndRotorblades what would happened if I don’t change the cylinder
@@richardeddings7259 if you go from drum to disc in the rear the amount of fluid that the stock master sends out will be too heavily rear brake biased and cause the rear to lock up before the front really starts working. At least in theory.
Am I removing the front and rear brake off the S10 or only the front to transfer onto the g body?
I did both, but. . . my rearend is not a stock gbody rearend. It's a foxbody mustang rearend.
Which size wrenches do i need to remove at junkyard? Hate carrying all my tools there lol.
@@BurnoutsAndRotorblades ok thanks for the reply bro. I'll drag my tools along lol.
if I’m 100% honest, it’s been too long and I don’t remember. Sorry, but you have to carry metric and standard.
Did you change the combination valve too???
I did not.
If u don’t wanna get the master is there any other solution?. N if I go ur route will it bolt up to my booster??
I really only know about the way I did it. I spent a ton of time researching what would work with what I have and the way I did it was the only option I found. This would be a great question to pose to a forum where experts can weigh in.
Just did the front brake swap....when I press the brake it leaks from the brake line at the banjo fitting why is that?
is there a copper gasket on both sides of the banjo?
Yes on both sides
the banjo might be uneven. try milling it smooth.
Im planning on doing this swap but what brake booster do i need to use because i think mine is bad in my g body
Ok do you think the 2000 blazer brake booster will work on g body
I used the stock booster with no problems.
Would this work on any gbody?like a 1985 cutlass?
I believe so.
How did you hook up e brakes
go to my video titled "GBody LS Brakes' E-Brake hook-up | Caprice springs | Window tint PSA | #FamilyBurnoutWagon EP25" through the playlist or just copy and paste that title into the TH-cam search bar. I explain it all in that video. Thanks for Watching and subscribing!
Hey did you have any problems with the original line nuts being too big to fit in the master cylinder?
Negative. Did you get the part number I specified in the video? (AC Delco 174-750 or Duralast NM3068) If you didn't that might be the problem. Either the master cylinder might be the wrong one or the lines on your car might not be the same metric line nuts that are on my car.
@@BurnoutsAndRotorblades I took it of a donor 2003 blazer at the u pull it yard
There are multiple choices. One has a tall reservoir that won't fit under the hood. It is possible that the one you pulled is the wrong one. I had to go back to the parts store several times before I found the right one. The really annoying part about it is there are no definitive markings to identify the part number.
@@BurnoutsAndRotorblades thanks
Will a 88 s10 blazer work on my g body?
You can, but it won't be much of an upgrade. It is a single pot caliper. The 2000 Blazer has a two piston caliper.
Would this work in a 86/87 regal g body?
Yes all g body regal, cutlass, elco, Malibu, monte carlo, grand prix it's all the same
Would this work for 80s style caprices?
WHAT ABOUT A 84 Buick Lesabre Limited g body same as caprice?
the 80’s caprice is a GM B-Body. A very different chassis I don’t know much about. The most honest answer I can give is, I don’t know. Sorry I can be more help. I found this for the rear: www.google.com/amp/s/www.hotrod.com/articles/ccrp-0805-gm-drum-brake-to-disc-brake-swap/amp/
Would this same setup work on a Chevy Caprice classic 1996?
I am not familiar with the 90's Caprice so I can't honestly say one way or another.
BurnoutsAndRotorblades thanks will keep Looking
No it's a b body
King Penn his is a B or mine? I always thought the caprice classic & impala SS bodies were G styles....
Your car the Caprice is a b body, you can use the Impala rear disk brakes upgrade. Fleetwood, Impala, Roadmaster and Caprice are the same car the Fleetwood is just a little longer with makes it a d body
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@@BurnoutsAndRotorblades may be my service. I've seen the brake upgrade videos from different places but I'm very interested in watching yours. Judging by the comments it's pretty detailed and informative. I'll keep trying and thanks for putting this content out
Would you say 1998-2002 blazers are good to go?
yes.
Would that work on a 1968 C10 Chevy pickup
I don't have any experience with C10's.