2023 Muscle Car Comparison - Who’s Winning? Dodge vs. Chevy vs. Ford Performance & Sales
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- Today I wanted to take a look at all of the muscle cars from the big three American manufacturers. We will do a full in-depth comparison of the Ford Mustang, Chevrolet Camaro, and Dodge Challenger from the current generation, looking at the features, engines, power output, and more, and then we will look to the sales figures of each vehicle and see who’s actually winning the muscle car wars these days and outselling the competition.
Bonus: What is a muscle car? I’m using the definition which states a few points that make a vehicle a muscle car, including a large V8 engine, RWD, being manufactured in the United States (or by an American manufacturer), two-door body, and being designed for drag racing while remaining street legal. So the Mustang, Camaro, and Challenger best fit that definition. The Charger is omitted as it has the four doors, and other cars that you might argue could be a muscle car, like a Corvette or AMG C63 or BMW M4 and so on are ruled out as they fall under the personal luxury cars, which are too expensive to be considered a muscle car by most people.
Chapters:
Intro: 00:00 - 00:44
What is a Muscle Car?: 00:44 - 01:30
Brand Overview (Ford, Dodge, Chevy): 01:30 - 04:42
Base Models: 04:42 - 08:52
Mid-Range Models: 08:52 - 13:22
Top-of-the-Line Models: 13:22 - 18:52
Sales Comparison: 18:52 - 21:58
Outro: 21:58 - 22:17
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Dodge is beloved by all but the mustang sounds incredible and always seems to have staying power . Chevy won't listen to customer criticism and keeps stopping production on the Camaro instead of giving their customers what they ask for . Put the chevy on a serious diet , reinvent their 6.2 liter to produce more naturally aspirated hp , and improve visibility and the Chevy wouldn't have problems selling .
LOVE the Challenger 😍
Great Content, very informative comparison of each brand and their respective models
Great video, thank you!
Excellent Analysis!!
Nice Comparisons👍
My opinion: looks department, the Camaro. Performance, Mustang. Badassery, Challenger. Love them all! Still waiting for a Pontiac resurgence.
I'm sorry, but the Camaro definitely don't win the looks. That would go to the Challenger. However the Mustang is just flat out ugly.
@@Shaolinmonk781 to each, their own. The way I see it: The Camaro (and Mustang) is more like a celebrity sexy. Challenger is more like p0rn star sexy. Both very sexy but in a different way. 😄
My opinion
Style (interior/exterior): challenger
Performance: camaro
Pleasure: mustang
I bought a mustang because driving it is extremely fun. Plus it's a convertible so cruising around is also fun.
Looks: Challenger Badassery: Challenger: Head turner: Challenger Comfort: Challenger Only real muscle car: Challenger.
What about reliability? 😅
Love the way that you actually included the base models.
Thank God I will buy some for myself
I've owned all three. Camaro is my favorite, hands down. But you can't go wrong with either one.
Does GM still offer a convertible option for the ZL1?
Ford lol the mustang ain’t going nowhere 😅
Yeah their decision to stick with the V8 is going to be huge for them
the challenger is the most popular and recognizable muscle car in america for wishes they could be dodge😂
@@davidkellykkell2011 why would they wish for their Mustang to turn into an angry vacuum cleaner?
@@seb_1504 mustangs are already angry vaccum cleaners thats why they always run into crowds😂
They are more than considering discontinuing it in 2029?
Marspeed, the Shelby Super Snake is still offered for 2023 from Shelby American.
If convertibles are available on all V8 Challengers, does that mean you can have a Demon 170 convertible?
I honestly can’t confirm or deny it. I think you possibly could, but dodge may not allow it
@@MarspeedCars I know it doesn't make sense from the performance perspective, but it would be the quickest convertible and easily the quickest to sell for $1M on the collector's market.
@@-POISON- yeah I don’t see why not if the owner wants to pay for the $26k convertible cost. Of course doesn’t make sense for performance but I can see it happened. Worst case they can just take it to drop top customs themselves after buying the car if they really wanted to
So the biggest problem I see here is the price of dodge cars an rt shouldn’t cost 40k it should be between 30k and 35k and scats should be 40k and 48k there price scheme is just unfriendly towards the average working class person
2008 challenger were limited production & only with 6.1L srt8
Charger for the win!
Four-doors don't win
How many sales does the charger have?
I don't know the only one I seen was a 2015 in person
Motor trend called the coyote the greatest V8 ever built
Given that Challenger and Camaro are on the chopping block this year, I think it's safe to say Ford is winning
Wouldn't at least one of the Cadillacs in the v series qualify?
Well he discounted both sedans and luxury cars. The V cars fall in both categories
It was just too much to go into that much detail for more than the 3 lineups here! Definitely other cars could be squeezed in here
@@MarspeedCars I totally understand. Looks like Chevy will be dropping out of this going forward.
Please include the charger in one of these 🙏🏼. Dodge markets it as the only 4 door muscle car and I think they’re right.
Marketing it as a muscle car is on them, as there is no such thing as a 4 door muscle car by definition of what is a muscle car
I’ve been watching for a long time and have never commented. Best video yet! Go MOPAR!
deciding between a camero ss 1le or a awd 5.7 durango with the tow and go package
Imo, the merger between Daimler and Chrysler caused Plymouth downfall.
ford still wins, it all ways does. fun fact, the mustang is the best selling sport car in the world
The 50th anniversary of the Camaro is 2017 Mars. Great vid
Hold up. Does Ford roll in the mustang Mach E into it's sales figures?
No that’s separate. 2021 was 27,140, 2022 was 39,458
The Mustang is "The 🐎".
How can you outrun the horse!!!😅😂😂
The Mustang is the CLEAR winner.
Not sure where you got the numbers for on the mustang gt but a 10 speed gt will run 12.0’s bone stock on street tires.
😂 stupid cap
Any mustang on TH-cam or in your neighbors driveway is modded,there slow as hell stock.
@@camclarke9952 my mustang is a 2019 gt 10 speed pp1 and on street tires went 12.0 12.1 the very first time at the track with it. Nothing up a cat back exhaust and a k&n drop in air filter. Car doesn’t even have a tune.
@@SARGENTDOODLEIt ain't tho, there are a ton of official videos and documented reports and tests that show the same result on all platforms.
@@camclarke9952Officially it is stated to run those numbers, you can claim every Mustang you see is modded, doesn't mean it's God's word at all.
The Camaro is literally the best of the three. But I want all of em. Except the RT and Ecoboost. 400hp+ only!
People should really look up "definition of a muscle car", because I swear for some reason people still get it backwards, and confuse this way too much because of some stupid notion that big, heavy and brute like means muscle car, regardless of anything else. The irony is the fact that the car they are likely referring to isn't a muscle car per actual defintion of a muscle car, mainly because it's not even built in America. If we followed the definition of "big heavy brute", than we would have many cars from Europe being considered muscle cars easily.
A truck would be a muscle car
@@salvadortorres7449 ^
Dodge challenger is very old
It might be old, but it's more my style. I'm old. :P
The Mustang is the best sports car of the three, high revving engine with a 6spd manual and the inside has imo the best quality feel. The challenger is the best looking and sounding but unfortunately, they have become hood trophies at this point, and owners are being followed home by thiefs.
American muscle car: power, speed, made in US.
Disqualify Challenger and Charger. They’re Canadian, eh.
Add the 500WHP AWD stock Model Y Performance running 0-60 in 3.5 seconds and 1/4 in 12, with a tow hitch.
V8 has nothing to do with it.
RWD-only isn’t required.
2 door coupe is a hilarious requirement in 2023.
Street-legal stock build with enough acceleration to throw you back in your seat, built in the US. That’s an American muscle car.
Fors is winning like always and that's not gonna change
Only one of these vehicles are a muscle car. Its the challenger which is in a class of its own. Let’s stop comparing Ponycars to muscle cars.
They are all by definition a muscle car, doesn't matter what you say really, if the Mustang or Camaro falls out of the category so does the Challenger, especially if we use it in terms of classic muscle cars, the modern challenger looks nothing like them or is anything like them.
@@leofhr2966 You sound foolish occur looks does not make it a muscle car.
Since GM is canceling the Camaro and F.C.A is canceling the Challenger. Ford wins the American Muscle Car war's because it still made since 1964 so 60 year's. but built in Canada.
That means absolutely nothing. All good things come to an end. People only buy the Mustang because it's the cheapest, like a McDonald's hamburger and everybody knows how bad they suck. Cope.
@@Whats-It-To-Ya the 911, corvette and mustang never ended production unlike other nameplates.
The Mustang was never manufactured in Canada.
From 1964 to the early 1980s Mustangs were made at the Ford Assembly Plant in Dearborn, Michigan. Today, however, Mustangs are made at Ford's Flat Rock Assembly Plant in Flat Rock, Michigan.
The Mustang is built in the USA, not Canada... We build the Edge. Stellantis makes the Challenger and the Charger in Brampton.
Ford Mustang beats them all !
Beats them all to the service center...Thats about all it beats them at.
@@ducktails1695 facts!
@@ducktails1695ford isn't great for reliability now adays but certainly better than the Chryslers blowing up before the break in periods.
That 10 speed sucks
as a guy who owns a scat pack charger my opinion is completely biased but for dodge to just get rid of their v8 platforms is gonna be a major problem for the brand. if I had to switch Im going chevy based on looks alone but might cheap out and get a mustang who knows.
You can know. Just test drive the cars. I test drove them and honestly, to me, the mustang is my favorite because driving it is more fun. I still want a chevy as well though.
mustangs getting expensive, fully loaded dark horse is around the same price as a redeye
@@StockCarGuyIt's the top trim, what do you expect, the Redeye is actually overpriced when you look at how versatile and actually useful the Mustang is, heck when looking at all the Dodge models they are all similar in price and performance like the Super Stock that costs way too much for It's performance.
@@leofhr2966and you think a dark horse is worth it’s price, it’s useless as well. A small car that can’t even handle as well as foreign opponents, plus it’s a ford. It’s overpriced for its performance as well.
@carnologgy It being a Ford doesn't really mean anything in terms of pricing, you think because something is a Lambo or a McLaren it justifies the prices they ask for, noe that is some cope and irony. Sorry but find me a car that worth every bit of it's price without any bias, heritage, prestine, nameplate privileges, or performance being the main reason for it. Fair and honest pricing doesn't exist in this world or economy, hating Ford is redundant. The Dark Horse is priced according to what it would sell on the market for against it's rivals which are in the same price range, and of course for it's exclusivity and performance overall, that's the reality. I don't care either way, everything is expensive but looking back at it so was everything in the past
Whose winning? Well if warrant a guess towards the only muscle car, and not either of those sports cars.
People can argue that some of the trims are muscle car like but mustang is straight up a pony car and Camaro is closer but too small IMO. Sports cars are light and muscle cars are big heavy brutes. Also how can we consider some cars muscle cars when the base engine is a 4 cylinder? Turbochargers also aren't muscle
Muscle cars by definition aren't something as simple as "big heavy brutes". In fact the actual defintion of a muscle car according to the describtion they gave them in 1966 was "a group of American-made two-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving". Ironically by that defintion the Challenger is not a muscle car since it isn't "American-made" as it's built in Ontario Canada. Guess which car is tho...Camaro and Mustang... how amusing.
The 5.7 at 40k is not what you want but if it’s in your budget.I say improve later. The 6.4 you can’t and the hellcat is not affordable for average working man.
Ford beats them all
You obviously don't know much about cars. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid 😅
So funny he doesn’t even mention tire sizes on ford and chevy only mopar because ofcourse mopar channel😂
Who's winning? bruh, we all losing
Even though the Camaro is relatively unchanged it’s def the sexiest, tied with the challenger. New mustang is a wannabe Camaro with that hood vent design
Yep, and the Camaro drives really well - but the cabin is cramped and the visibility is horrible. I feel like they could have fixed those issues and done much better - I do like the lighter weight as well and wish dodge had spent the time to make the cars lighter and handle better.
The hood vent design is literally taken from the GT500, and that's not even a Camaro design, it's just a hood vent bro, you gonna call every car with a wheel a copy of the Camaro because it has those too you know ?
@@troybjones4visibility is not an issue for me in my 6th gen Camaro. People need to learn to adjust their seat and mirrors and visibility won't be an issue.
Camaro and Challenger is for little girls, Mustang is for real man who's looking to go fast 💪
Funniest comment on the internet
@@TheWillD77 Thanks, it’s the truth though
I don't know boys I live in Michigan are roads are shit I will have my 4x4 truck to take one of them cars to a track hahaha.
IMO according to your sales stats overall. 1st place Mustang 2nd Camaro 3rd Challenger. You didn’t even show Challenger sales in the 70’s when it came out which most likely it hardly got sold. So again Challenger is 3rd place overall in muscle cars sales.
If you watch the previous video they made you will see that the Challenger is the lowest in sales overall for the most part, and started to sell better when we reached 2020's
The Camaro is the best bang for the buck. It's been that way since 1967. Cope.
If you are a small American and can fit in that matchbox
Well... the irony here is kinda amusing
Comparing the highest trims across the board, Challenger wins.
It doesn't tho
@@leofhr2966 The Demon 170?
@@darkside7802 You do realize that this isn't based on only trims right
I am a Ford guy, but it's not even close, the Challenger walks away with this.
Not at all, it speaks for itself