Celeste Chapter Ranking & Analysis
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- Celeste is a beautifully and brutally difficult platformer that uses superb level design to engross players in an all-too-familiar story of triumphing over frustrations and self-doubt. Join me in my analysis of each of this game's chapters, looking at how each of them helps Celeste reach new heights in the genre.
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Video Segments:
00:00 Introduction
02:15 #9 - Golden Ridge
4:30 #8 - Mirror Temple
6:15 #7 - Celestial Resort
8:10 #6 - Core
10:30 #5 - Old Site
11:55 #4 - Forsaken City
13:55 #3 - Reflection
16:25 #2 - The Summit
20:25 #1 - Farewell - เกม
“Chapter 9 has no collectibles”
Moon berry: am I a joke to you?
golden berry: Hi :)
Not him talking about both berries at the end of the video
Golden Ridge B side was one of my most memorable experiences, in part because of the music. I hated base Golden Ridge the first time, but once I replayed the game I loved it as well.
RIGHT!? The Golden Ridge B-Side music is so special to me, I adore it, it always helps me to lksten to it whenever anxiety attacks hit me, it just makes me feel like everything will be okay
Same here, I started to love golden ridge mechanics just because of b side music. Except for the wind, I hate it.
I agree, music was great. My favorite b-side was probably reflection
@@totolol9387
One thing that was always questionable to me was that the more tech you know the less of a problem the wind becomes. It's manageable once you notice dashing is still fast but it really opens up with extended hypers, wavedashes and so on in a way it just doesn't on first playthrough.
Also, the game never explains dashes are faster moving against the wind direction and slower with the wind which just feels really bad sometimes on the alternating wind puzzles.
To be COMPLETELY honest... I disagree. In fact, the thing that ruined 4b for me IS the music. It was fine at the beginning, but after the 3rd loop or so, it just got SO annoying, to the point where I had to mute the game music. I'm probably one of the very few people who actually prefers the A-side song. I don't even remember much about the gameplay, but the song alone definitely made it one of my least favorite levels. Which is funny considering the original golden ridge is unironically one of my favorites lmao
Note: you CAN get the 4A heart without the Mario 3 block, through advanced movement techs
Get the reference or suffer
@@paradoxxikal7327 exactly.
There was other way to do it?
@@pedrohenriquedesouza4716I'm pretty sure it's TAS-only timings, but I'm not 100% on that.
@@hello_i_exist_uwu i'm not saying i made it on that way, but i never saw the correct way to do it, because it i never got that heart lmao
i feel like we'd need to seperate the A B and C sides for this, some concepts work WAY better as difficult gauntlets than an actual story chapter, like 8 and 4
I also think of golden ridge as the weakest chapter but I find the end to be one of the strongest moment, since Madeline learns the feather technique to deal with panic attacks
as someone with all the golden berries and 1500+ hours of speedrunning celeste + modded content i really enjoyed this video. I completely agree with this list for a first/second time playthrough, but when i started learning the speedrun i actually started liking the levels i used to hate, like golden ridge and celestial resort, gotta say my favorite level is still summit though, great video!
To be honest Mirror Temple is one of my favorites in the game… it was the first level in the game that really encouraged me to go after the collectibles and I like the puzzle aspect a lot. Also I found the b-side so much fun
I hated the a-side with a passion on my first playthrough, and I still kind of do. It's a very important chapter for the story, and the gameplay ties in with it very well, but I just couldn't like the mechanics no matter how hard I tried, especially in the last part with the evil murder things and Theo. It think it may well be my second least favorite a-side, right behind Core. Somehow the b-side is in my top 3 though? Don't know what's up with that 😅
Honestly, the song is what sold it to me. Specifically the B-side one, it's just so good! I loved almost everything about the chapter. The new blocks, a bunch of collectibles, several paths, has a lot of replayability, and the Theo dialogue. I would say that, for now, it's my favorite chapter in the game.
Though I wouldn't know since rn I'm in the process of beating Farewell :p
@@sthynthee I somewhat dislike the a-side, but the B-side is so fun to speedrun.
@@Mun_Dun replayed chapter 5 earlier today the whole maze thing is cool but it kinda sucks🙏
The only thing I really disagree with is trying to quantify the sections of farewell as A, B, and C sides. Personally I think part of the philosophy of farewell is that it’s one level that’s pushed way farther than it was ever meant to be. Anyway the rest of the analysis is spot on
To be clear, I entirely agree that's what the level is meant to represent from a psychological and lore perspective - the level is about Madeline refusing to let the level end as a coping mechanism for grief. Mechanically though, I think the style of the three sections of the level do match the base game's "sides" pretty well - the beginning of the level is a lot about exploration and discovery, like an A side. After you get the heart, it turns into a long and grueling mechanical challenge, which is similar to the B-sides (it even ends in a rhythm block section like those do!). After she accepts Badeline back and the two work together to close things out, the rooms become very long but more open and free, and there's only a few of them left - like a C side! I think Farewell works on both a mechanical level of capturing the essence of the rest of the game's difficulty on three spectrums, while also expertly using those variable difficulties to tell a story that matches exactly what you're saying on an emotional level.
Chapter 5 divides people based on if they like Metrovanias or not. Personally it's my favourite after 7 and 9.
Metroidvanias are my favorite genre, I just don't think that style of gameplay is where Celeste excels personally.
Dude I love Metroidvanias but not only is that not what the level is but it’s also not fitting Celeste plus it’s really stressful to navigate. If you had a mini map like in a Metroidvania that would be a lot nicer but again that’s not what Celeste is about. IMO it’s the second worst chapter after chapter 3 which I don’t like at all.
Nothing new to say, just another metroidvania lover agreeing with the rest of y'all
I’ve said before, 5a is awful on a casual playthrough, but it’s one of my favs in the speedrun because of the skips and mechanics (minus a couple of the Theo seeker rooms)
5a is one of my favorites and im not even that much of a metroidvania fan :3
At the start you mentioned that you celebrated dying and I fully agree. As a game where you're going to die a lot, Celeste handles it really well. Several games when you die you might be sent back 5 or 10 or more minutes, but celeste is usually a minute max (as far as I've experienced yet) as rooms aren't that big and you get checkpoints. (and absolutely no issues like running out of lives). Of course there's the extra optional challenge of doing no deaths, but this game lets you play at your own pace and doesn't punish you for failure, even saying deaths aren't bad in a note going into level 3
I’ve been doing farewell, and whenever I die, I see it as progress, as I know what to do differently
I died 8697 times to just complete the main story. There were a lot of times where i didn’t care if i died, and even if i completed the screen i would go back, because it didnt look « pretty » . it’s crazy how this game can keep you motivated in situations where you would normally just give up
I actually like Golden Ridge lol, the first time I wasn't so sure, but the etereal feeling it gives me, and the wind trying to stop me from climbing the mountain, the more I replayed it, the more I liked it. To me it's that level that the more you know and the more you get better, the more you start to enjoy it
Celeste has many messages that it can tell us. But the one that stuck with me most is...
That wind frickin sucks!!!
The fact that you can beat chapter 1 without dashing makes it better than chapter 2 because once you finally get that winged golden strawberry it makes you feel like a god
I think the golden berry in Farewell will forever be out of my reach
I just finished chapter 5 today and I actually loved it up until the part where you have to carry Theo around while avoiding those alien things and then it quickly became one of my least favorite chapters
That was my favorite part of chapter 5 lol
theo is horrible for casual but his tech is so fun to play with
definitely remember some spaghetti happening in 5A final room (it’s so long lol)
@@Hdagoat_ I agree. It's kinda awkward at first but once you get better at the game he just so satisfying to toss around and the physics of him just work really well imo
@@TheOneWhoHasABadName You're so damn right. Theo tech is top tier fun once learn how the gimmick is supposed to be played, but since the skillfloor is high, most casual players never get to enjoy it because Theo feels like burden at first.
@@TheOneWhoHasABadName theo tech is really fun but paired with the seekers its awful imo
In my personal experience it would be a bit more like:
1. Summit
2. Farewell
3. Ridge
4. Reflection
5. Site
6. City
7. Core
8. Temple
9. Resort
agreed
Agreed with the last, fck u Oshiro and your fckng hotel
Resort sucks lol
@@thegappleapple7763 exactly
celestial resort is extremely painful why is it c3
Gonna have to disagree on your opinion of Golden Ridge’s soundtracks. They’re some of the best in the game, especially if you’re listening to them outside of the game
That's valid! All the music in the game is good, those tracks just don't do as much for me personally. The frustration with the wind overtakes the chill vibes somewhat :P
However I totally recognize that they're really great songs in their own right.
Awesome vid man! You’re so underrated. Also, it’s a real coincidence this vid is only a posted a few days ago because I just finished this game. And considering how old Celeste is I wasn’t expecting people would still make tierlist of it. Anyways, I’m glad you still did! Solid ranks and have a great rest of your day!
Thank you for the kind words and I'm glad you enjoyed both your time with the game and my video!
@@user-fc4vh8fx1u it released nearly 7 years ago
@@user-fc4vh8fx1u Celeste released nearly 7 years ago. Thats pretty old in my book for just some indie game
@@user-fc4vh8fx1u I never said the game looked old. It's just 7 years old. Besides the most popular games in the world, games will just get less and less popular over time and will eventually be forgotten. So I didnt expect someone to make a video about a game that's been released 6 years ago
@@user-fc4vh8fx1u Yeah agreed. Arent really better games that are like Celeste.
This was actually a big motivator for my video on the subject. Just wanted to say thanks :)
Surprisingly, in my first play through of the game, I actually REALLY loved Golden Ridge because it felt like a much needed emotional break after the tense showdown you have with Mr. Oshiro. The wind was a welcome mechanic for me because it didn’t feel like I was being attacked as much as it felt like something else you’d have to deal with climbing a mountain; replaying it, though, it’s definitely one of the weaker chapters for me.
I recently decided to finish everything in the game besides goldens and I think if I had a list it’d look like this:
1. Farewell - One of the most satisfying challenges in video game history for me, especially if you’ve finished everything the game has to offer until then. I think it’s completely intended to have finished all the C-Sides before you attempt the level; I tried a couple of screens of farewell before doing all the side content and found myself getting frustrated with that amount of precision but after finishing 7C, it almost feels like you’re ready for anything; which, in Farewell’s case, you DO need to be ready. I really liked how you described the three sections of the level as the A B and C sides, because that’s exactly what I was thinking while I was playing it. It never pulls its punches but it never feels like it’s talking down to the player, either; it’s just a long grueling series of platforming puzzles and due to the way that dying in Celeste is heavily encouraged rather than punishing, it feels like a full celebration of game mechanic mastery.
2. Summit - Good for all the reasons that Chapter 9 is good, but just to a lesser extent. Like you said in the video, would be at the top if Farewell hadn’t released.
3. Forsaken City - I think the first chapter is SUPER solid mechanically and if you haven’t attempted the Chapter 1 speedrun you’re missing out on a really fun and tight platforming challenge. It’s the perfect introduction to the game, but once you get much better, it becomes a great playground to really just have fun in since there’s nothing in it that’s really working against you.
4. Core - The puzzle aspect to Celeste is actually one of my favorite parts of the game, surprisingly. I think one of Celeste’s strongest points is that the movement options are really simple and satisfying, so while platforming itself is great, adding a “think through the room” aspect personally improves the experience for me. Core asks the player to be precise and think through resource management, and I really liked that after getting two dashes. The strawberries are super great to figure out, too; it made me feel great at the game doing things with such limited resources.
5. Reflection - The boss battle aspect of this level is the clear highlight, but honestly I kind of despise the feather mechanic. It’s great as a storytelling device and what it’s supposed to represent, but I played on switch and while I normally love the d-pad, it feels like I can’t get the feather to do what I want with 8 directions and the joycon stick has its own issues. Otherwise, though, fun level and the crystal heart had me ripping my hair out trying to figure it out.
6. Mirror Temple - The levels are still good here, but I’m personally not super huge on Metroidvanias so this level feels kind of sluggish to me. The mechanics introduced are awesome and some of my favorites, but it doesn’t feel like you can really just rush through it unless you know the exact path and I get frustrated on repeat playthroughs when I have to explore to get through it.
7. Old Site - Honestly, it’s just kind of boring to me? I don’t feel the same amount of satisfaction moving around as I get from Chapter 1 but it’s just about as easy and I think the first time through the game looking for strawberries, it’s totally fine but on repeat playthroughs, it feels kind of eh. The main reason it’s above the other two on the list is because dream blocks are fun and I really like the C side.
8. Golden Ridge - This one is mostly just boring as well, and doesn’t offer much in terms of story or gameplay.
9. Celestial Resort - Maybe it’s just me, but I HATE cycles in platform games. The whole level feels claustrophobic (on purpose, I know, but moving around feels more fun in open spaces) and you spend so much time just waiting around to move unless you know the exact path through a level on specific cycles. I also just have a personal vendetta against Mr. Oshiro for making the last two jumps of the C-Side personal hell for me; I still don’t feel like I have that timing down and what should’ve been a 25 minute grind for me turned into an hour because I couldn’t get the timing of the last jump down.
Well, you've done it. You're making me want to play Celeste again.
Anyway, this was a GREAT video to watch and now I wanna quickly do mine
1) The Summit: you have no idea how many times I've redone this because it's soo fun. Also really like the C side. Also, emotions and crazy good ost
2) Farewell: good to play once, I'll do maybe the final room every now and then, but GEEZ it's too hard to enjoy casually. I like how every section has music with its own feeling
3) Reflection: the atmosphere, the EMOTION, THE MUSIC! GOD I love this game's music (Calm ost = studying. Badeline chase ost = EXPRESS MY EMOTIONS). Love the feather, neutral about the other two. Was so happy to find and figure out the heart on my own
4) Old Site: I really love the atmosphere, really love the music (even the more calm section). I always do the C side as a warm-up. Dream blocks are probably my favorite mechanic too
5) Forsaken City: man this is a great tutorial for each "difficulty" and you're so right with this. Great introduction, simple yet fun. Dashless challenge is really fun (and surprisingly hard). Great music
6) Mirror Temple: love the atmosphere, love Theo. Like the dash blocks and bubbles. Do NOT like the part with the crystal (I just feel so heavy). C side ost is a banger, my favorite to listen to (maybe not the most fit for the area though)
7) Core: Mechanics are interesting, but this level really DID feel more like a puzzle than a platformer. Good? Bad? I can't tell, but music is chill, good lo-fi beats to study and relax to. Died after taking the heart in the C side (bullshit)
8) Celestial Resort: kicked my ass in my first run in the game. A side is a bit tedious, B side has the same problem and C side... C side is fine except for that last bounce (took me forever to time it I had too much anxiety my first time I was in a HURRY). Good music
9) Golden Ridge: really like the calm music, bubbles and clouds are nice, neutral about moving platforms. But man. I HATE the wind (when it's against you). I feel sooooooooooooo slow and it's just not fun there. But all the other rooms are very nice. (Crystal Heart is bullshit I JUST NOW noticed the statues)
Have I said I like this game's music?
I have played 7C more times than my parents have told me they're proud of me lol it's such a fantastic level. Really, Celeste doesn't have a bad level but some really are more excellent than others. Love your takes, thank you for sharing!
Lol you gave me a heart before I even finished writing this😂 thank you♥️
I have also died after collecting the heart in 8C more times than I care to admit oops
I mean. Your not supposed to like the wind. But yeah, it can suck
great video, really enjoyed it
9. Celestial Resort (Chapter 3)
8. Core (Chapter 8)
7. Forsaken City (Chapter 1)
6. Golden Ridge (Chapter 4)
5. Reflection (Chapter 6)
4. Farewell (Chapter 9)
3. Old Site (Chapter 2)
2. The Summit (Chapter 7)
1. Mirror Temple (Chapter 5)
something about the atmosphere, music, gameplay in Chapter 5... it just feels like perfection. it amazes me how this game used to frustrate me so much, and has now become my biggest comfort game.
I have watched a lot of celeste reviews, retrospectives, guides, challenges and listicles. it's all I did for like 2 weeks. this is probably the best video out of all of them, by a lot. like, farewell's difficulty to the base game a lot.
This video is awesome!!
the music in farewell in the best in the best
Idc how good Farewell is, it's nothing compared to Mirror Temple. The atmosphere, the music, the mechanics, the voicelines, everything about chapter 5 is so good!!!
TRUEST
Are you ok?
Jk lol
@@QuantumKid he's right you know
I felt that farewell rant at the end
I love the Farewell chapter, but man i just couldn’t do it without the accessibility features, some of the stuff it asked of me was just too much for me and that kinda dampened my enjoyment of it, which makes me very sad, but maybe one day ill come back to it and do it legitimately
MY LIST ( A side only ) great video btw
9 core. I forgor this is even in the game half the time. The gimmick is fun, and I cant even tell you what the music is like because I cant even remember it lmao. Good bonus but needs more to be fulfilling.
8 forsaken city. Feels weird putting it this low but that’s just how it is. Probably the best intro you could ask for, but the meat and potatoes of this game definitely lies deeper down.
7 the hardest level in the game 100%. As the name implies this was a HASLE!… nah just fuckin. The introduction to badiline is nice. The space blocks are cool the music is probably the best in the game. But for real the C side is the easiest shit I’ve ever seen like what
6 golden ridge. I don’t hate it like everyone else, I think it’s great engorging how it’s basically obsolete to the plot. The visuals are stunning, and although the gimmicks can be annoying this is still a great time.
5 celestial resort. This is when the games balls really drop, and it’s VERY clear. Oshiro is a great character, the story is great, and the visuals are even more so. ( also the the alt music slaps like holy shit lmao )
4 reflection VISUALS!!! Anyways. It’s fun
3 mirror temple. the story is top notch throughout this whole ordeal. And really kickstarts what I like to think of as “the second act” The alt music just like the resort absolutely slaps. I love how it looks, how it plays, EVERYTHING. This is the best the base game gets JUST behind summit.
2 farewell. Ok, In my opinion this is the OBJECTIVE best chapter. But not my FAVORITE chapter. Which is what I’m going by here. Basically eferything you said about the story i adore. But it got so hard at some points to were I deadass busted out assist mode. GREAT SHIT!
1 summit. Best in the game. I love how it revisits old locals without felling stale, brings brand new challenge using old gimmicks in great ways. Has a great sense of “climaticy” ( don’t judge ) and the final win melody with the win screen and the whole credits are true tear jerkers. THIS, is why I get out of bed.
I would love to see a comunity rank of this
wavedashing was an intended mechanic from the start;
In celestial resort (chapter 3) you can find an old-timey version of celeste to play on a PICO-8, this is actually the original version of celeste and celeste (2018) is based off of that initial game (also called celeste) in which you can do these tricks, such as wall boosts, spike jumps, and wavedashes though in that game they truly aren't intended and this is felt in how janky, inconsistent, and precise the tricks are. An example of an unintended feature in celeste (2018) would be e.g. ceiling pops, which depend on your subpixels (information not easily accessible to the player) and hypers (a variation on wave dashes (sorta) whose behaviour varies based on the frame you input your dash).
I also remember the developer watching a speedrun and mentioning how some weird bubble tech that lets you phase through moving platforms is intentional but I cba to find out the specifics (its somewhere in golden ridge (chapter 4)).
Also if you're looking for more celeste content the modding/mapping scene is amazing, you should check it out :)
this was super detailed and awesome to watch! I feel like sharing some of my thoughts as well.
First off, I appreciate EVERY level for the way it's level design is used for storytelling, I've never seen a game that incorporates its levels into a metaphorical narrative medium like celeste, it was super cool to see.
I'm surprised you found the golden ridge tracks to be nothing too great, bc the remix is my FAVOURITE track in the game. YES i like it more than the mirror temple remix, although that one comes second.
as for my favorite levels, here's the rundown
A side: Forsaken city, just a nice simple challenge, lots of cool optional rooms, fun to speedrun, I love that there's the optional dashless challenge which is super cool
B side: Mirror temple (call me crazy) but i like the challenges as a whole, i completely skip the first part anyway, but the seekers in this felt like a much nicer challenge compared to the a side.
C-side: SUMMIT KING i finished this c-side first like an idiot, but i loved it, simple but tough challenge, easy to get into as well. I found other c-sides to be slightly frustrating and slightly putting the blame on the design rather than yourself. In summit though, every death is almost forced to be YOUR fault, which is absolutely great, it helps to keep you pushing.
Farewell was excruciatingly long, and took away from the story for me. It ended up becoming a frustrating obstacle for my completionist ass, rather than a good, challenging and story rich celeste level I'm used to.
Far and away, Celeste has the most videos of any game on my Switch. I kept clips of every screen I was proud of completing, totalling 52 videos.
As of yet, I've done all the B-sides, a third of Farewell, and zero C-sides
Getting the golden berries changed my perspectives on quite a few chapters. I think 3b is my favourite golden at the moment as the movement feels so fluid once you've mastered it. The fwg grind is also surprisingly addictive though so, so long.
Amazing video
Technovoid at 0:00 - 2:15: ‘I am not good at platformers, I didn’t even play “Super Meatboy”, I have headaches when I see kaizo mario romhacks’
Also Technovoid at 20:30: * *proceeds to put the hardest chapter in the game on the first place with no hesitation whatsoever* *
The golden ridge crystal heart was THE ONLY one I got without any prior knowlage. I just tried EVERYHING. When I saw the crouching Madalyns, I downdashed into the white platform. I used a guide for the rest of them. I understand my brain is a fungal anomaly, but dang I feel so much less bad about cheating by using guides because if that puzzle was so hard for everyone else because it needed other game experience I don't feel bad for just being a silly silly.
(I technically also got the chapter 2 heart on my own but I had 2 hints; I knew it was early in the level and I knew the dash refresh could be exploited. But Golden Ridge is the only one I actually got fully on my own.)
I bought this game at the begin of July but havern't played it because I felt so bad and bashed by Celestial Resort. I started Celeste a few days ago again and I'm so thankful I did that. Just a magnificient game.
Personally the wind is my favorite part of Celeste. Same with ice effects in games. People don’t like losing control but I personally like it cause I have to adapt and it’s just different movement speed, and I’m sad no one likes ice and wind mechanics. I’m glad people put them in games tho 😊 tee hee so yeah I’m that person
Can we all agree downward wind SUUUCKS!!
Personally my favorite level is reflection, specifically the b-side, although that was not covered. Farewell, just seems like it would be more of an entire second game inside the first game, as it is as long as have the base game. Also while Golden is my least favorite track and level it is still great. By the way keep doing these tier list, ranking, and analysis videos, i really enjoy them.
I love 6B so much! I mention in the video that it's probably my favorite B-side, and is a huge part of why it's so high on my list. And yeah, Chapter 4s music is great, it's just competing with a lot of banger tracks. Really, there's nothing in Celeste that isn't great - there's just amazing, and less amazing.
@@Technovoid Yes, thats just so true. Celeste is a really good game and iv'e actually played through it and speedran it many times. Regardless of my opinions on the game itself, I still really enjoyed hearing your thoughts on the game. You should do a video for the b-sides and a video for the c-sides. Thanks for the content and replying to this comment so fast. You're definitely good at what you do.
@@purplmastr37 I'm a bit confused what you mean - this video goes over the B and C sides of the levels as well. I'm not sure what another video would accomplish in that regard? Either way, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@@Technovoid I agree. I didn't really make myself clear. I meant that you should make a video specifically for the b and c-sides, even though they were briefly touched. Just to talk about their design, because if we're honest the c-sides are arguably some of the challenges in the game
I say this because the b and c-sides have a lot more to them than just what was in this video.
I arrived at empty heart without clearing any of the b and c sides, boy was it a challenge, now im doing them all before continuing. Great list
I haven't beaten Farewell, so that might change but, here's my list
1: Summit
2: Temple
3: Farewell
4: Reflection
5: City
6: Resort
7: Core
8: Old Site
9: Ridge
Edit: I've beaten Farewell, and OH, MY, GOD! how did they make it that... amazing!
10/10 moving it to #1 above symmit.
My ranking
9.Golden Ridge
8.Celestia Resort
7.Forsaken City
5.Farwell
5.Core
4.Old site
3.Reflection
2.The Mountain
1.Mirror Temple
Found this video late, but as a speedrunner, here's how I would rate the levels:
1. Farewell(obviously)
2. Summit(obviously)
3. Reflection(has one of the best moments in the game, overall fun chapter.)
4. Old site(I love dream blocks so much)
5. Mirror temple(I love the mechanics in this level too, and the speedrun strats are pretty fun.)
6. Golden ridge(the wind is a bit annoying, but you can do some really fun stuff with it in speedruns. Definitely a low point, though.)
7. Forbidden city(doesn't do anything special, but still good. Like vanilla.)
8. Celestial resort(cycles suck. All I gotta say.)
9. Core(I have bad memories of this level.)
2 minutes in and I got spoiled that there’s a c-side, welp time to pop this into watch later and hopefully remember to watch when I finish the game in a few years
i have done farewell yesterday, and im doing the C sides now, i kinda regret doing it in this order, but i wont quit before making it haha.
That was an awesome game, farewell was hard af, took me 12 hours (i had never played a plateform game before and im using the xBox joystic, just dont, use a keyboard or the dpad, joystic sucks in celeste, diagonal are shit.)
Anyway, the only chapter that frustrate me to a point i nearly broke my controller was chapter 3. The sequences and timing sucked for me. I was loving the fact that i could just chill and focus on plateforming but in this chapter you can't. I loved chapter 1, 2, 7 and farewell so much tho. That was pure fun, and so rewarding ^^.
Thank for the video dude, that was fun to watch ^^
i wish i had a good experience with farewell but i played on nintendo switch and it’s super hard to control the jellyfish without a keyboard, but i’m glad you could enjoy it more than me!
Oh thank goodness I'm not the only one who found it hard to control Madeline on the Switch. I tried both a dpad and a thumb stick, and with the dpad, it was hard to get precise diagonals, whereas with the thumb stick, it was too easy to get accidental diagonals. Accidental diagonals were the #1 source of frustration for me.
My personal list:
1. Farewell
2. Reflection
3. Site
4. City
5. Summit (The B-side made me want to rip my arms off, so points off)
6. core
7. temple
8. resort
9. ridge
what you say in the beginning of this video is so true. i think celeste is one of the only games that do this
Personally, from the perspective of someone trying to get golden berries, I'd rank chapter 6 lower, due to it being home to two of the least consistent mechanics in the game. Golden feathers are quite difficult to precisely control, and bumpers are extremely sensitive to sub-pixel position changes even without them drifting from side to side. Having said that though, these mechanics do fit into the story quite well, and the Badeline bossfight is both an extremely strong part of the story and a well-balanced and fun part of the gameplay.
23:58, i also suffered through that room for a good hour and also remember it for it being so hard, one of the hardest rooms
2:59 aw come on i had a big smile on my face when i saw hat white block
A few thoughts:
You commented a few times that it was strange that new tech like the wall bounce and hyperdash were introduced late and hardly used. I think this is missing the point that these new skills are like parting gifts to the player to send them off to do speedruns and golden berries if they want further challenges
You said that wave dashing was discovered by speedrunners and introduced by the devs in response. While this is true of demo dashing, wave dashing was always an intended and fine tuned mechanic. There is a secret room above granny in 6A that requires it, and that room was there on release.
Ch 9 doesn't have collectibles
Moon berry:what about me?
comb room was one of the few rooms I skipped and came back to later in everest debug mode because of how long it was taking compared to every other room
My top
9 - Core
8 - Mirror temple
7 - Reflection
6 - Celestieal tesort
5 - Golden ridge
4 - Old site
3 - Forsaken City
2 - Farewell
1 - The Summit
"Do not try farewell in ine sitting" op been there dine that twice... today alone
Haven’t finished watching but my favourites are reflection, old site, celestial resort and farewell
Also mirror temple
Also mirror temple
And forsaken city
And golden ridge
And core
21:46 Another Celeste video I’ve watched said something about how Farewell is an A, B & C Side combined into one chapter. The A-Side being from the beginning to the Crystal Heart, the B-Side being from the Crystal Heart to where you catch up to the bird, and the C-Side being from there to the end.
23:25 Oh, I guess that was mentioned here lol
I personaly love Mirror temple for the music
As someone with nearly 300 hours in this game, from worst to best, I'd rank them
8, 6, 5, 2, 4, 1, 3, 9, 7
Now, I enjoy them all, especially after learning them essentially by heart after going for the golden berries (still working on #202)
8 was the most frustrating by far. 6's B side is really drawn out in a not-too-fun way. 5's seekers are my least favorite mechanic in the game, bar none. 2 is placed for similar reasons. 4's atmosphere is just too excellent for it to be any lower, and I enjoy the mechanics, even wind (half the time).
1, 3, 9, and 7 are standout. 1 for being a great first level, 3 for when the game really comes into its own, and 9 and 7 for using the whole game's mechanics well. 7 just ekes out 9 on initial emotional impact, as 9 will drain you if you don't know how to wavedash.
for me they like vary based on sides cuz my most recent memories of them are goldens and b-sides are much more fun than a-sides for those. im interested in your ranking of resort though, it seems a lot of people put it lower down so i'm interested in why it's higher for you
omg someone also hates chapter 8 i thought i am the only one who is like this
@@NotTured nah you're right there's a lot of people who hate core
2:56
This might sound like I'm lying, but what I did when I got to that room, I saw the statues next to the white block and tried pressing down a few times on top of it. Nothing happened, so I held down for a while whilst looking away, apparently bored. I then heard a weird noise and noticed Madeline had disappeared! I tried moving around a bit to see where she had gone until she popped out from behind the block. I was like "...wait, I'm in the BACKGROUND?!"
I did not and still do not understand how this could be a reference to Mario 3 (I think that's the game where you can pull items out of the ground and can play as Peach/Toadstool).
You're thinking of Mario 2 - Mario 3 is a stageplay, and there are white rectangular blocks that the player can crouch on for several seconds which drop them into the level's background. Essentially exactly what happens in Celeste.
My favorite aspect of the summit is the freedom the double dash gives you
Btw, in the "cassete block" part of farewell, we get introduced to yellow AND green cassete blocks
Another thing, if you die i think 50 times or 100 times in the last room, madeline starts feeling hopeless but badeline helps her push on and keep trying
technovoid's voice somehow sounds like coffee,
Regarding the video it was great, i like howyou touched on every base in the game instead of just gameplay.
AND FINALLY I FOUND SOMEBODY WHO HAS THE SAME OPINION ABOUT CHAPTER 4 WITH ME
the hyperdash is like a fundamental movement option that changes how every level in the game is played and is extremely fun. I do understand why you would not know that as you only really learn is value if you play custom maps or replay the story.
It’s crazy how the game feels hard then you dip into the B sides and everything in the main story feels like easy mode. The movement skills you “unlock” through those levels transcends you as a Celeste player. I played the hell out of it when it first came out, replayed it again recently then immediately downloaded on my ps5 for the trophies. I never did the core or the c sides. Then I learned they dropped a 9th chapter! You beat the game but it NEVER feels like you have to finish the other content. We all know how frustrating the extra content is which is another game in itself. I’ve also never heard music handled in such a perfect crescendo. This game is a bonafide masterpiece.
i remember that i did try to beat chapter 1 b side before chapter 2, but at the beginning of the game i mapped my jump button to the same thing as the grab button without realizing it and this made the traffic blocks SUCH A PAIN
Something worth noting about chapter 6 that gives it even more points: The feather is the metaphor Theo taught Madeline when she feels anxious to calm down, and in almost every single screen it appears in chapters 6 and 7 it's in a moment Madeline would feel understandably anxious. For example:
-Right before talking to Badeline at the very start of Reflection as well as the final screens before the end of the bossfight
-One of the final flags in Summit (flag #3 iirc)
-Chapter 8 and 9 don't use the feather in that way that much, yet I could also count the one at the very end of Farewell's final room
mirror temple at second worst is diabolical it was easily my favorite
moonberry was fun because you can get very consistent pretty easily at the final room and the moonberry room is at the perfect difficulty where you keep getting a bit further with each attempt
golden berry was meant for the gods of celeste only. I would be shocked to see anyone who doesn't have at least a thousand hours in the game get it
The pufferfish in the last room have killed me so many times
just finished farewell today and can agree with every single sentence this man said
all i can say after finishing it is: why didn't i do 8b first
@@alephzero1984lol did you do the wall skip?
@yoyodada230 no, i just did all b sides except for 8b, and then jumped right in
@@alephzero1984 oh so it wasnt required to do core b side to open that gate midway?
@@yoyodada230 absolutely not
mirror temple, my favorite chapter
i love reflection so much its my favorite chapter
"Farewell has no collectibles" *oh just you wait.*
I was at first confused by why you put chapter 1 over 2 but after the explanation I can completely understand the reasoning, I would probably agree with this whole list based on my experience but mirror temple would place last just because of the eyeballs that literally dash at you with the power and at the speed of a racing semitruck.
7b was my 1st b side and i am so happy i did it first its still my fave b side
Seeing golden ridge at the latest place is wild to me. Personally I think it's the chapter that feels the most like how Celeste is supposed to be. Besides summit, it's the one that feels the most like climbing a mountain.
I honestly think 1A deserves to be higher. I honestly think the prologue and 1A is the best designed tutorial in any video game ever. As an aspiring game designer, it’s what I aim for when designing any opening level.
Fun fact: i had to do the final screen 10 times and the moonberry room 4 times bc the first time i forgor to take the berry the berry then i fucked up the last assenssion with the jelly twice ( i was done, i just needed to keep the jelly in my hands)
Id say my order is something like this
1 Summit
2 Farewell
3 Theo crystal is my favorite part of the game fight me
4 God I love dream blocks
5 Forsaken City
6 Reflection (im conflicted. I love the badeline fight and kevins, but Im really not a fan of the feather)
7 Core
8 Wind
9 Cycles
Kind of an older video (Great video btw) , but I love Celeste so much that I chose to do the B and C sides as well. I grew up on nintendo platformers a lot as a kid so I didn't struggle with celeste, however, whoever designed the Core B side needs therapy.
23:58 that room took me like a month but the last room only took like a day
"The last room in farewell isnt that frustrating"
- Me just before spending another 2 hours on it before finally beating it
do you know what frustrating means
No wonder Ive been struggling so much on Farewell and felt like im about to go mad. I was doing it without ever having completed any B or C-side, with it being the hardest lmao.
Currently im at the crystal heart part, with each puzzle taking me so long to complete. Now im prob gonna do the B and C sides first
I just beat farewell and uhh… after watching this I realized I did everything after the wave dash tutorial in one sitting.. and I haven’t even done a C side before, that probably explains the 1596 deaths
Chapter 2C is much more fun than Chapter 1C tbh, and since dream blocks are from Chapter 2, and are the funnest mechanic overall, it should be credited to Chapter 2 imo
As someone who plays FromSoftware games, I really enjoyed celeste, it was just as rewarding
to add to the beginning, the game itself has a tip telling you to be proud of your deaths since it means youre learning
I recently got all achievements on Celeste and I agree with your rankings.
I liked the idea of Mirror Temple and I LOVE the symbolism but I also have a fear of the dark and trypophobia, so...
As for Golden Ridge, you and I felt the same about the whole thing. So when I realized that it was making me unhappy, which isn't what the point is, I decided to finish the b side for that on god mode. I'll try finishing it one day, but this game, while it's a platformer, isn't really about that. It's about how it makes you feel and helps you get better and feel better as a person. Any time it stops doing that, you either need to walk away from it, or skip it.
I HATED chapter 3. I got pretty okay at a side but b side felt cruel. That was really hard.
Core was definitely one of the experiences of all time. I was kinda bothered by how Madeleine and her part had "integrated", but they showed Badeleine helping her up later in the chapter without Madeleine acknowledging that it happened. i didn't manage toget those strawberries, but one day...
I'm still beating what I need to, so i haven't started Farewell.
My favorites are probably chapters 1 and 2! And even though chapter 2 b side was hard at first, it was easier than chapter 1 b side. i actually got to where I enjoyed it a lot!
Edit: I love the fact that something like dash resetting and using it to go up and get the crystal heart is something that we are SUPPOSED to abuse. It's hilarious that that's a thing. Feels aggressively illegal. I really love that the devs don't punish their players for finding things like that and using them. We get rewarded instead! This game s different for it. It's like that with assist mode, too. I like how you just get to have the choice to play how you want or need to. If you're unhappy with how you're playing it or it's inaccessible, you can use assist mode.
Reflection was HARD. The precision needed... summit was insane too.
personally i cant rank the chapters as just 9 chapters, i would have to split them between their a b and c sides, and that would just take awhile
2:50 man you chose the hard way, gg 😂
I definitely agree with your top 3 but for me in total I‘d rank em like this:
1. Farewell
2. Summit
3. Reflection
4. Core
5. Old Site
6. Temple
7. Forsaken City
8. Ridge
9. Resort
Although saying that I love em all, the only stuff I dislike are the wind in ridge and the annoyance of Dust Bunny cycles in resort
Farewell moon berry still haunts me
This list would be impossible to make for me, there is simply not a single level I don’t enjoy.
Chapter 1: 1A simply so cozy and cool, and I absolutely love the winged golden. As you said 1B and 1C take your stamina do the extreme and I really really enjoy that (forsaken city-esque custom maps are among my favourites).
Chapter 2: dream blocks are so fun, the entire atmosphere is amazing and the crystal heart is hid so well.
Chapter 3: probably my least favourite, BUT I love the execution on the “abandoned hotel” theme, the huge mess chapter is so clever and the music is so memorable. It has c*cles tho.
Chapter 4: HAS to be my favourite among the base game, it is the most “normal” one out of all the chapters as you are actually climbing a mountain, but I love the aesthetics, the gameplay and especially the music. Also I love the hidden gem on the 7A2k, it’s so fun using the terrain to your advantage even though there aren’t any spikes.
Chapter 5: I hate it, and that is why I love it. I don’t want to come back to it, so it is doing what it wants to do. The mirror temple is a place you hate to be in, having to confront yourself with the harsh reality of what you are living. So the seekers are just genius, they make you hate the chapter as much as possible. Dash blocks are insanely fun btw.
Chapter 6: simply majestic, beautiful, and really important to the story, the music is fantastic and what really empowers you to push through 6B (probably the hardest level of the base game).
Chapter 7: not a huge fan of it, the crystal heart is really really cool, but gameplay wise it isn’t anything special apart from the climax of your journey, which isn’t anything to scoff at (I said that I cannot make ranking of the chapters for a reason).
Chapter 8: on a second playthrough I really enjoyed chapter 8, it was more meticulous than any other chapter and I strongly feel that something would be missing if the mechanics introduced in the chapter (mainly no dash resets) weren’t present.
Chapter 9: the best chapter in the game, it is COMPLETE from story to gameplay. Talking about gameplay, it’s influence was big enough that custom maps are clearly heavily inspired by farewell more than any other chapter for anything gameplay.
Oh and also, I loved the Mario 3 reference, it really represent how this game was made by gamers for gamers :)
22:04 Farewell alone, no berry, took me longer than oneshot 100% 😅
My ranking
#1: Summit*
#2: Farewell*
#3: Reflection
#4: City
#5: Temple
#6: Core*
#7: Ridge
#8: Old Site
#9: Resort*
( * = C side not completed, or main level not completed)