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There is one thing that baffled me about this entire video, the focus on framerates and how it was enough to bump down updates multiple tiers when they were still above 60. 120 is more than enough fps to play the game and an update should not be thrown into the darkest pit of hades because it "Only runs at 120 fps". Doesn't help that the logic is applied at seemingly random too, since some updates have extremely low framerates and get placed high, yet other updates that were praised were tossed to the bottom for having the same low framerates. That is just mind boggling logic to me.
I agree, it seems like this guy is frustrated that mojang didn't accommodate the updates to his high end pc almost a decade ago when high end pc were a rarity.
Honestly, grading the versions on performance rather than actual content makes this tier list sort of invalid for me. I don‘t care if i have 1000 or 800 fps. If my eyes can‘t spot the difference, i won‘t complain. And no, you won‘t see a difference between 150 and 300 fps
Exactly, if it’s some graphical AAA masterpiece you might see a difference, but in Minecraft you would probably have to slow the game down to even notice
1.3 D tier because of 120 FPS??? Bruh, I used to play on 20 FPS all the time because I never touched the settings and I was FINE with it. Who do you think you are, fancy PC owner? You better look at us back in the day, Whimzee.
Getting an fps amount like 120 although it is good fps, is unacceptable no matter how old the game is. Most consistent gamers have a high end pc, how about you appreciate the good parts of the video instead of hating on the one part you didn’t like.
@@Contier7If you're upset over getting 120fps then that's just sad it's the same look after 60 also we're going to talk about how he talked about the frame rate since it affected most the video
@@akintolashekoni4600 60 fps and 120 is a huge visual difference to me. Idk if your eyes just dont work but there is 100% a very visible difference, and on a high end pc you should expect to get at least 800 fps, whether or not you can visually see the difference, thats not what matters-
1.14 changed the textures, 1.17 changed the ore textures, and technically the caves and cliffs update was split into four parts because of archeology I loved 1.19 because of how easy it was to find and raid an ancient city with just a pickaxe and shears, and if you find a mending diamond hoe and destroy all the shriekers the deep dark becomes free xp. Plus wardens are very fun to mess around with I personally enjoyed armor trims, it’s fun collecting them and showing them off to your friends
And we are gunna have caves and cliffs 5 too adding one more underground structure the trial chamber. It's not tricktails, it's tricky trickycaves for me. MOJANG IF 1.22 IS NOT AN ENDER UPDATE 😡
I once found an ancient city and I completely overtook it. I destroyed all the skulk sensors and shriekers. I never had to worry about a warden because of swift sneak
"NOooooooooooooooooooo My Pc Can't go more than 1200 fps !1!1! THIS UPDATE SUCKS !1!1! " Like bro? 120 fps isn't good enough for you? 20 fps is decent, 30 is good and 50-60 is a miracle for me, if a game is running at 60 fps its good enough, if he was complaining about his performance being lower than 50 fps i atleast would consider his opinion but goddamn, complaining that your pc can't go above 120 fps is just pathetic.
@@Sucullentbutter bro if he didnt have a good pc the game would run poorly. thats what he complains about. 1200 fps to 700 is 500 fps diference, thats huge, he is comparing the game performance difference, not his pc´s.
@@prroagil1233 on a shitty pc it'd still be like 30-60 which is totally fine, especially for a game of its age. it's over ten years old and crafted from the ground up by a indie dev and added on continually throughout. could definitely use some more optimization but it's just overall an odd and unnecessary choice to bring up for each update.
The transition from "maybe 1.17 wasn't so bad after all, time made me appreciate it more" to "EVERY MODERN UPDATE SUCKS CAMEL BALLS" was really eye opening tbh
7:22 that's just straight up incorrect 😂 Sprinting was added all the way back in beta 1.8, before the 1.0 update. You just had to double tap W for it to activate
@@Sprigatitto740 it was a split update like 1.17-1.18 (and the promised content finally delivered in 1.19) funny how adventure update was also technically 3 updates long, but beta 1.9 has never been officially released
Only listened to your first 3 opinions, though hearing you care about the framerate and dissing 1.3 for the framerate cap boils my fucking blood, it's not that big of a deal man Edit: I did listen to the rest of le video after commenting, I still think framerate should not be a major factor
@@B_akawi The problem is bitching about a framerate cap when 30fps can do anyone without a gamer PC just fine on any game. Also there's a video on why higher framerate doesn't guarantee extra smoothness, watch it and you'll understand
@@djangel3108bro how did you not know what a 144hz monitor is it’s a basic gaming monitor that makes it so you can see games at 144fps i feel like if you’re over 11 years old that should be known
I know he just put it there to drum up discussion in the comments to boost his video, but it still frustrates me enough to talk about it. Hes so obsessed with frame rate that the game where anything above 30 fps is perfectly playable is D tier because they limited the frame rate to 120 or less. Completely disregarding the entire content of the update, instead judging it for not having procedural enough dungeons?? 1.16 added bastions to the nether which have a few specific presets to pick from, and yet bastions are just sooo much better than the desert temple fsr?? Its so stupid, tbh im just gonna stop watching now so his video gets slightly less average watchtime
@@jc_art_ 1.3 had SO much new content and SO much improvement to the last update, then we have this guy who puts it at D tier when it goes below 120fps. Plus it’s on max render distance so he kinda just did this to himself. I bet he’s one of those people who think anything below 10000 fps is unplayable and looks choppy
@@capella5783 What exactly is showboating? And why in the world is Whimzee complaining about over a hundred FPS when a lot of people play on just 60 FPS
If you have a 240 hz monitor the difference at that point is noticeable. Once your eyes get used to the smooth 240, 120 will look choppy until your eyes adjust back
1.20 was trash, armor trims are useless and needlessly expensive. If they want to add a purely cosmetic item at least make it reusable or not ungodly expensive
@@gusguidance A “use” that has no practicality whatsoever and costs more than the literal enchanting table for no good reason. Even then if you want to trim armor you’re only going to do it four times at most.
1.13 would not be disappointing if we got it now. It’s not every update we get 5 new biomes, 8 new mobs, a new good weapon, new building blocks as goated as the ones added in 1.13, 2 new cool structures, a mechanic as useful as bubble columns, and overall such a drastic change to the overworld.
Sprinting was in the game before 1.7, it was double tap W, but I don't know when it was added. Also the textures changed in 1.14, honestly this gives some points to the version imo but i agree with basically everything
if he has for example 300 fps, and the expected frame rate is 1000, then for lower end pcs; it'll be for example 20 fps as opposed to the expected value of 60.
A few corrections: 1) Thank you to everyone who pointed out you could double tap 'w' in earlier versions of the game. 2) I was looking at framerates since maintaining good performance in a 15 year old game that's constantly expanding is a huge technical challenge that doesn't get talked about much. The framerates only affected my ranking of 1.3 since it seems drastic enough to have prevented some players from even playing the game, and had no other impact on my other ratings. My experiment was extremely basic, so I didn't put too much weight on it. Sorry for not making that clear!
2 others things: The texture update was in 1.14, not 1.17. and last but least, you can't say 1.16 is the best ever update and literally place it before 1.14.
1.6 in F tier is crazy, people wanted horses for years and they also wanted another solid coloured block in which they got terracotta, 1.6 was the biggest update at the time.
As someone who played at the time, I was excited for horses but literally didn’t use them at all for several years. I was like 6 so I used terracotta a lot in excitement but eventually realized how bad it looks it’s not F tier to me, no minecraft update is, but it’s definitely in the lower half
The horse you spawned was a baby. Yes baby horses are that spindly. Also, personally I think the horse update should be at least slightly higher given that the horses are the ones from Mo' Creatures back in the day and Dr. Zhark even had his name in the credits for it (I don't know if Dr. Zhark's credit is still in the game or not)
1.13 beloved update... I remember people got all kinds of mad because of the stability was soooo bad until 1.13.2... We literally hit a dark point in the games history at that point.... at least until 1.13.2 when they fixed the issue. which later happens again with pillager outposts... and took updates to fix because the jira's staff refused to acknowledge its existence so we had to give videos proving it was vanilla on single player happening and on servers. also 1300 fps, great you had a good experience... there's tons of videos showing the performance was bad mostly for servers were the worst with it. I remember the TPS dropping all the dang time with the stupid cod. We had to use a plugin that prevent cod spawn until it was fixed.. which fixed the tps.. Single player wasnt as bad probably because you dont stay in areas long enough for cod to have been an issue on that world. Dont get me wrong, I love minecraft, and I loved all these updates for what they were. but the performance was obvious especially on servers.
Some corrections: 1. The frame rate has never had a hard cap, it's just your PC that's doing it for some reason THEN you REALISE there's a problem with your sound later in the video but can't figure it out lol. 2. Sprinting has been in the game since before 1.0 but you could only activate it before 1.7 by double pressing W. 3. Microsoft didn't start personally developing the game after 1.8, it was still old devs like Jeb and Dinnerbone who introduced new features. 4. The textures were changed in 1.14 not 1.17. How did you not notice this?
There are 2 types of people, the ones who think "elytra" is a good thing so we can fly!! And the ones who think they are absolutely garbage becouse everyone is gonna be flying everywhere and escaping, and everything is ruined, and minecraft loses its essence
yeah and like nine HUNDRED on some versions?? jeez “it was only around 100 fps but it was still playable” how could 100 fps be nearing UNPLAYABLE that’s insane man
@@AbrahamLincolnOfficialChannel game literally plays smooth at 30-40 FPS as long as its stable.... 60fps is smooth and 120 is pretty much best but you dont really even notice as long as the fps is stable above 40...
@@EmperorPenguin1217Cherry groves are one of the most beautiful biome in the game, Trims are possibly my favorite added feature ever, Sniffers, while not being great, is still an interesting mob they can do more with, archeology is also kinda unique and extremely overhated. Face it. 1.20 is good, especially if compared to older updates.
@@Lokie-os9ht Cherry groves are literally just forest rehashes with nothing interesting, armor trims are useless, needlessly expensive and a terribly made way of trying to give more value to diamonds. They can "do more with" basically anything, the fact of the matter is that it's extremely underdeveloped even for post-1.16 mob standards. Archaeology is unique sure but it has absolutely nothing going for it except for a music disc and isn't fleshed out at all.
"This update *only* gets me 830 fps, but that other update gives me 1210 fps, so I'm gonna have to bump this one down a tier." Holy cringe. There is no difference. Humans can not tell the difference between 800 and 1200 fps.
Im pretty sure one of the reasons why the fps was capped at 120 fps in 1.3 was because of some poorly optimized stuff. Im not sure if it had been previously fixed but in really old versions the game would try to give as many frames as possible, for many integrated graphics devices this would cause the game to run incredibly slow (at like 1-3fps). capping the frames most likely was an attempt to fix that issue. If i am wrong do tell me, but im pretty confident that was the reason. Also im pretty sure you get more lag if you dont use Java 8 or below for the older minecraft updates, which might explain why you had 100fps despite having a good computer on 1.4.
1.20 was a really good update all around for me, we got QOL changes, and a lot of new miscellaneous features that I personally enjoy having and I use pretty much all of them in my survival world. For me it’s an A or S tier.
@@Justin_MM2_YT Armor trims are useless and a really badly implemented way of trying to add more value to diamonds. If they wanted to have something be purely decorative at least don't make it insanely expensive or make it reusable.
Having a FPS cap is good to not destroy your GPU by asking him to do the most FPS he can do. So no, this was a good thing that they added the capping, but if you like destroying your GPU and neading to change it a lot more and spending more money just for FPS your brain can not even manage. Well then do it.
@@Roberto-bd3lo for me, I don't really notice as much change from 60-90 fps, but once I'm in 100-144 fps, the change is really visible and great to have. Definitely not necessary to enjoy games though.
I feel like you placed some of these updates higher or lower than they deserved for arbitrary reasons, and it really killed my interest in the video. Then again, maybe you meant for the ranking to be very controversial to drive engagement. Either way, I usually love your videos, but I’m just not impressed with this one. No offense
what updates do you think should have been higher of lower? to me, all of his rankings seemed pretty good except for 1.13, which i feel should be higher
The fact that you think that 120 is a bad fps is baffling to me. 120 and 300 fps are the exact same to the eye. This is an update ranking, not an “is this fps not 1,000” ranking
@@Roberto-bd3lo Maybe you didnt play the right games? The difference is more obvious in Overwatch (a dynamic shooter) than while navgating menus in windows
1.16 was the most excited I've ever been for a Minecraft update, might have been because that was when me and my friend were playing together in a world and covid though.
Mojang made the cap 120fps because at the time, the average gamer wasn't even having a stable 60fps in most games, and 144hz monitors were rarer to come across than being struck by lightning. In comparison, CSGO wasn't even released when minecraft 1.3 came out. Imagine how little a 120fps cap actually mattered back in the day. People could only dream of reaching such frame rates with their GTX 750s.
The reason Notch could make updates every week was because his game was empty, there was nothing to do, now that there's everything, it's hard to implement something without affecting the rest of the game.
The fact you basically rate everything on fps pisses me off. You can literally not see more than 60 fps yet you beg about "but i have a expensive computer!!! I need it to be running it at 1200 fps for it to be good!!!"
1.13’s performance claims came from server performance. Chunk generation was exceptionally slow and treasure maps (to this day!) can cause immense lag spikes when generating the chest.. :/
Heavily underrated 1.13 in this video, not only did the oceans themselves get a ton of work done on them but swimming as a whole was a gigantic edition, it makes everything before that update feel absurdly primitive
1.19 involved them adding in some of the most complex blocks they had ever done, the most complex mob they have ever made, and the largest structure in the game. Everything they did that update was massive. And Allay's are more of a niche feature that people who want to use them will, for the exact purpose they have. Then for 1.20 you outright glossed over every feature in the update. And a really inaccurate description of Archaeology. It's a feature to expand structure design and adds in an entirely new gameplay mechanic to the game that can be expanded on at any time. And you left out everything else in the update. An update that added a lot for many people. And both of these updates are still far bigger then most of the updates in the games history. I think what I said above also applies to the rest of this video in general, you ignoring a lot of the things all of these updates did.
@@plumfadoodle4908 alright then. to your first point, this ranking isn't about how difficult it was for them to code it. it's about how fun the update is. so sure, they made these complex blocks and complex mob with complex mechanics, but it's not as fun of an update compared to previous updates. 1.19 is not even close in size to 1.18, 1.16, 1.14 or 1.13. saying it is 'massive' is simply not true. as for 1.20, what features did he gloss over? archaeology in its current form is just not that fun. the loot is useless, aside from the occasional diamond or armour trim, and unless they improve that, it's not a fun feature. and how exactly would they expand upon this 'entirely new game mechanic'? by adding more blocks you can brush, or more loot? that's hardly expanding upon it, more just adding to it. what else did he miss out? maybe bamboo wood, which is useful but not insanely so, chiseled bookshelves which are again, slightly useful, and the two plants for the sniffer that do nothing and have no function whatsoever. and saying these two updates are bigger than most updates in the game's history is just not true. these two updates added a couple new biomes, a mostly useless game mechanic and a cool new structure.
@@fyreexe4121 Dammit I just deleted everything I wrote when trying to copy it in case anything went wrong, now I have to do that all over again. I was almost done too. At least I had had an earlier version copied before the deletion. At least now like 20 minutes later I rewrote everything and updated this first paragraph about it. I could remove this, but I don't feel like it. . . . Yes, it is far better to respond to someone on the internet you disagree with, with an actual statement. And it allows for a proper civil discussion that holds meaning. Now for my thoughts on what you said. That list of updates you gave comparing 1.19's size consists of 4 updates. This list had 20, and I for one like to include all the beta updates as well. And the quantity of what an update adds is not indicative of what's really there. The features that were worked on were highly complex things they had never done before. And this update came only 6 months after 1.18 properly released. The Ancient City, Warden and all sculk related blocks were massive things to have been worked on. That's why it was split off. Same as 1.20. And none of that even talks about how bedrock and Java weren't being updated at the same version at the same time till 1.16. Or the giant list of technical and bugchanges. Both of them are absolutely bigger then most of the games updates. And that's even discounting the previously mentioned bugfixes with the wider code base, or them working on both version at the same time better now. Then on that same subject of 1.19, all he says about the Deep Dark is that it's cool. Pulling up a misleading screenshot of the loot and glossing over everything it does. When in actuality Ancient Cities have great loot. And beyond that a structure and biome is more then what you get from it. By the logic of judging a structure purely for their loot, you could put a chest full of diamond blocks in a desert well and it would be the greatest most fun structure ever. Or claim Ancient Cities are as big of a feature as any olden structure because technically it is just one structure and thus equal in size to a desert well. Ancient Cities are now considered a widely loved part of the game. An adventure that is considered to be immensely fun to go through. Something that progressed Minecraft in pop culture. And all of that is leaving out what people like about anything to do with Mangroves, the entire other half of the Wild Update. Most of this updates issues was with it's name giving a misleading scope. And then on the topic of fun, I wouldn't be having these criticisms if he bothered to explain anything on his thoughts. Ancient Cities are a well loved structure considered by many to be deeply fun, same as everything that goes with it. Ancient Cities aren't even mentioned here, besides a brief mention of "loot bad" in an outstandingly misleading image that doesn't talk about anything the Deep Dark has. And none of that even includes the other half of the update with the Mangroves and everything people love about the features that place introduced. Or everything 1.20 added that appealed to so many people that he didn't even bother to mention or say a single opinion on. Then for the other features in 1.20. Calibrated Sculk Sensor, Chiseled Bookshelf, Hanging signs and all the sign changes in general, Piglin Head, The two new woodsets, including the entire new biome with a really unique tree, leaves and flower. Sniffer and Camel, and everything Sniffer comes with, including the hatching and digging mechanics that weren't in the game before, leading to the endless possibilities for that, the 20 decorated sherd and the decorated pots themselves, and the entire new armor trim system with the Netherite upgrade. With all that on it's own being what I believe is the third highest item count an update has had thus far. 1.20 was a solid update I myself consider to be a nice B tier one, not as great as some of the heights in the last 7 years, but a good one that pushes the game forwards with future set up. It was an update that did many things and focused on adding well wanted features into the game and with plenty of QoL. That's what the update was about, the adventures gone around from exploration and the stories of blocks. A large experience players of all types can do with many features to take advantage of. Plus the giant list of bugfixes and technical changes this update did. But this isn't going into you're point on Archaeology. Sniffer plants then of course have a use, not only can they be dyes but Torchflower can be used for a night vision stew. And even if you ignore that they are useful for the decorative niches they provide of being fantastical, I see them pop all all the time in many builds. Not everything is something that provides value to every player. The term of usefulness isn't an objective catchall for every feature. Archaeology is a new system to the game with a gameplay never before seen in the game before, it isn't objectively boring just because you find it to be. This is a feature meant to improve structure design and environmental storytelling. It's something that greatly expands the structures of the world, and any new ones they add. Overtime in a structure you unearth the ancient past, seeing tiny bits of lore hints people can make their own inferences on. The Nether and End for one would have outstanding things showing up in either of those places once the system comes there. What was in 1.20 was just the start of the feature. And in this update alone both Ocean Monuments now have a side part where you skirt around the ruins fighting drowned while you unearth the sus blocks. And Desert Temples/Wells also benefited from the system by expanding what they could do. And all 4 of them weren't places designed to have this feature yet they benefit a lot from it. The system is like a new chest type except you engage with it a lot more in gameplay. Archaeology is like a sidequest you can go into in any structure for whatever unique things it brings. Wherever it goes it increases the environmental story telling they can do in any structure, pushing the limits of what they are capable of doing for structure design. A good example of that is how the Cataclysm Mod used it in the Ancient Pyramids that I saw yesterday in an overview video I watched, where while you go through this giant maze of a structure, sus sand is scattered around, having you slowly unearth whatever is hidden whenever you see it while adventuring and fighting bone dinosaurs. Future structures this game could provide could be just like that. Expanding the things you do while in one to be a more immersive experience. And it makes the structures last longer with a different type of gameplay other then what it would already provide at a first glance. While Archaeology did not return for The Tricky Trial's Update for what I think is the understandable reason of it not exactly fitting the Trial Chambers. Two other features did come back for it. The pottery sherds and the armor trims. Both of which greatly expanded the sort of loot any structure could have. And doing something normal chests are currently incapable of being, unique things to find around the structure. The decorated pots enhance both the gameplay and the vibes of the structure. While Armor Trims give out a wider loot pool. Archaeology would be a bigger version of that the next time it returns. This is also just like Trial Spawners and Vaults showing up in this update, or the ominous effects. All of which greatly expand the potential of what tools they can use for anywhere in the game at any time. This is a game that they intend to update forever, having systems like these are great for the longevity. And all of them are clearly just getting started. Redstone for one itself was a tiny piece of what it is today back when it first came.
1.4 update was arguably my favorite update they ever did. Fun fact, I had never beat the wither but I always knew he was super tough. So when I decided to fight him in my best world, I went like 4k blocks away just to beat him so he wouldn’t destroy any of my stuff if I struggled. He destroyed me for about an hour, before I finally gave up and went back to my house. Never went back either, just let him take the land for himself. I like to imagine he’s still out there to this day, just destroying land and wreaking havoc to that side of my map. Or should I say, his side of the map now lol
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I get the point he’s making about archaeology, however I do think it’s funny he basically said “the archaeology update is bad because it’s to much like actual archaeology and not fake archaeology”
I hate and feel bad for this kid at 4:25 he could have just turned it on peaceful but to be fair he’s only like four and definitely can’t hide his emotions 😂
Interesting to see a rank like this in a vanilla (unmodded) standpoint In the modding world, a rank like this would be very different; 1.12 would be the in highest ranking precisely because of the "stagnancy" of features, that allowed mods to get complex with their mods without the worry of another version to update. 1.13 would be featured at the bottom because not only it was the first time modders and players needed to "move on" but also was a very disruptive update internally - change of numeric to string ids, the introduction of datapacks, etc. Before those, 1.7(.10) would also be featured high on the list - before 1.12 it was the version to choose to make huge modpacks - and 1.8 would be featured even lower than 1.13: it suffered not only very similar problems than 1.13 but also featured the first major incident in the history of modded, when a disgruntled Bukkit (modded server software) dev did a DCMA to a fork of the project called Spigot because the folks refused to let the whole project go down and tried to keep the Bukkit alive in some form.
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spritng exists fro beta but u need to just duble tap W
How is this comment a day ago when this video came out three hours ago
Under a day👇
@@Destlers_World the comment will've been posted before the video was set to public
cool
Alternative title: rating updates based on their fps
sounds like true
Yeah man thats so true
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I swear I have no idea how that computer can handle so many frames I only got 40 fps MAX
For real tho 😂
sprinting was way before 1.7, you used to have to double tap w to sprint instead of having its own button
yep, 1.7 added the sprint key which is a great addition, but sprinting itself was added in beta (b1.8 to be exact)
Meanwhile me who still uses the double tap to sprint: 😐
wait... you guys don't double tap w's to sprint..?
@@msiio yeah thats so hard especially when the w key is half broken
@@HankSchenk oh boy :/
There is one thing that baffled me about this entire video, the focus on framerates and how it was enough to bump down updates multiple tiers when they were still above 60. 120 is more than enough fps to play the game and an update should not be thrown into the darkest pit of hades because it "Only runs at 120 fps". Doesn't help that the logic is applied at seemingly random too, since some updates have extremely low framerates and get placed high, yet other updates that were praised were tossed to the bottom for having the same low framerates. That is just mind boggling logic to me.
I agree, it seems like this guy is frustrated that mojang didn't accommodate the updates to his high end pc almost a decade ago when high end pc were a rarity.
@@netheriteingots5896exactly, the focus on FPS was so weird and unecessary
For me performance is the most important part of any update as any new content added means nothing if people with lower end systems can’t enjoy it
@@theoprobst5208 ofc, but lowering a rating cuz the game won’t run 900 FPS is a bit much lol
Heck, the human eye can't even see more than 60 FPS
Honestly, grading the versions on performance rather than actual content makes this tier list sort of invalid for me. I don‘t care if i have 1000 or 800 fps. If my eyes can‘t spot the difference, i won‘t complain. And no, you won‘t see a difference between 150 and 300 fps
I ussualy don’t see the difference between dang 30 and 60fps if the game is good idc
Fr fr if its note than 60 fps thats already a good fps for my eyes to see
if your monitor is a specific refresh rate then any other rate will be choppy; i know from experience
Bro u WILL see the difference on 144Hz monitor when your 144fps becomes 100
Exactly, if it’s some graphical AAA masterpiece you might see a difference, but in Minecraft you would probably have to slow the game down to even notice
1.3 D tier because of 120 FPS??? Bruh, I used to play on 20 FPS all the time because I never touched the settings and I was FINE with it. Who do you think you are, fancy PC owner? You better look at us back in the day, Whimzee.
Fr I remember playing like 30-20fps on my pocket edition Minecraft and im fine with it
ooo fancy pants rich mcgee over here
Getting an fps amount like 120 although it is good fps, is unacceptable no matter how old the game is. Most consistent gamers have a high end pc, how about you appreciate the good parts of the video instead of hating on the one part you didn’t like.
@@Contier7If you're upset over getting 120fps then that's just sad it's the same look after 60 also we're going to talk about how he talked about the frame rate since it affected most the video
@@akintolashekoni4600 60 fps and 120 is a huge visual difference to me. Idk if your eyes just dont work but there is 100% a very visible difference, and on a high end pc you should expect to get at least 800 fps, whether or not you can visually see the difference, thats not what matters-
1.14 changed the textures, 1.17 changed the ore textures, and technically the caves and cliffs update was split into four parts because of archeology
I loved 1.19 because of how easy it was to find and raid an ancient city with just a pickaxe and shears, and if you find a mending diamond hoe and destroy all the shriekers the deep dark becomes free xp. Plus wardens are very fun to mess around with
I personally enjoyed armor trims, it’s fun collecting them and showing them off to your friends
Yeah, they weren't completely terrible updates, armor trims, deep dark and two new woodsets are fire 🔥
And we are gunna have caves and cliffs 5 too adding one more underground structure the trial chamber.
It's not tricktails, it's tricky trickycaves for me.
MOJANG IF 1.22 IS NOT AN ENDER UPDATE 😡
Problem: i don't have friends.
Exactly lol. Both 1.19 and 1.20 are so overhated
I once found an ancient city and I completely overtook it. I destroyed all the skulk sensors and shriekers. I never had to worry about a warden because of swift sneak
Blud is complaining for 105 fps while I’m sitting here averaging 27 fps💀
"NOooooooooooooooooooo My Pc Can't go more than 1200 fps !1!1! THIS UPDATE SUCKS !1!1! "
Like bro? 120 fps isn't good enough for you? 20 fps is decent, 30 is good and 50-60 is a miracle for me, if a game is running at 60 fps its good enough, if he was complaining about his performance being lower than 50 fps i atleast would consider his opinion but goddamn, complaining that your pc can't go above 120 fps is just pathetic.
@@Sucullentbutter bro if he didnt have a good pc the game would run poorly. thats what he complains about. 1200 fps to 700 is 500 fps diference, thats huge, he is comparing the game performance difference, not his pc´s.
I average 0 lol
Bruh 27😭
I get average of 12😭💀
@@prroagil1233 on a shitty pc it'd still be like 30-60 which is totally fine, especially for a game of its age. it's over ten years old and crafted from the ground up by a indie dev and added on continually throughout. could definitely use some more optimization but it's just overall an odd and unnecessary choice to bring up for each update.
The transition from "maybe 1.17 wasn't so bad after all, time made me appreciate it more" to "EVERY MODERN UPDATE SUCKS CAMEL BALLS" was really eye opening tbh
Modern updates cool
@@carinaslima cool doesnt mean the updates are good though
@@epicgamerpolihedral
For me they are :)
He makes it sound like the updates teach and then puts it A tier and doesn’t say why
That mf’s vision of “archeology” is delusional ngl-
7:22 that's just straight up incorrect 😂
Sprinting was added all the way back in beta 1.8, before the 1.0 update. You just had to double tap W for it to activate
To be fair, beta 1.8 was kind of like a preview of 1.0
@@Sprigatitto740 it was a split update like 1.17-1.18 (and the promised content finally delivered in 1.19)
funny how adventure update was also technically 3 updates long, but beta 1.9 has never been officially released
@@randomannoyance 1.0.0 was originally gonna be called beta 1.9, thats also why its pre-releases are called beta 1.9, its 2 updates, not 3
I double tap forward cause I'm left handed and don't use the sprint key so yeah
Only listened to your first 3 opinions, though hearing you care about the framerate and dissing 1.3 for the framerate cap boils my fucking blood, it's not that big of a deal man
Edit: I did listen to the rest of le video after commenting, I still think framerate should not be a major factor
What’s wrong with having the option to use your equipment to its fullest potential?
@@B_akawi The problem is bitching about a framerate cap when 30fps can do anyone without a gamer PC just fine on any game.
Also there's a video on why higher framerate doesn't guarantee extra smoothness, watch it and you'll understand
@@djangel3108if you have a 144hz monitor then 120fps is going to be choppy
@@johnxina8557 Idk what a 144hz monitor is but I'm picturing one of those old box TVs that nobody would use anymore
@@djangel3108bro how did you not know what a 144hz monitor is it’s a basic gaming monitor that makes it so you can see games at 144fps i feel like if you’re over 11 years old that should be known
D tier for 1.3 is crazy
All bro cares about is performance I swear
@@polyeshbe honest do you really want to play with 30 fps
@@BeetlejuiceHasOpps no, but it’s on higher chunk distances, which doesn’t matter to me
I know he just put it there to drum up discussion in the comments to boost his video, but it still frustrates me enough to talk about it.
Hes so obsessed with frame rate that the game where anything above 30 fps is perfectly playable is D tier because they limited the frame rate to 120 or less. Completely disregarding the entire content of the update, instead judging it for not having procedural enough dungeons?? 1.16 added bastions to the nether which have a few specific presets to pick from, and yet bastions are just sooo much better than the desert temple fsr?? Its so stupid, tbh im just gonna stop watching now so his video gets slightly less average watchtime
@@jc_art_ 1.3 had SO much new content and SO much improvement to the last update, then we have this guy who puts it at D tier when it goes below 120fps. Plus it’s on max render distance so he kinda just did this to himself. I bet he’s one of those people who think anything below 10000 fps is unplayable and looks choppy
okay literally who hasn't spent like 10 minutes looking for the hidden treasure under desert wells
Me because I barely encountered them
At least there is hidden treasure there now.
@@plumfadoodle4908 still you can't get early game and its not that userul
@@Szynka666 All you need to do is craft a brush after finding one? I'd hardly call a copper ingut and a feather mid or late game.
@@plumfadoodle4908 i thought the recipe was with iron and not copper🤦
3:45 what? Why would you even want to play the game at over 120fps? Seriously
So he can showboat on youtube. Why else?
@@capella5783 What exactly is showboating? And why in the world is Whimzee complaining about over a hundred FPS when a lot of people play on just 60 FPS
@@daypixel7943 Someone behaving in a way that is intended to attract attention or admiration, especially when this is annoying.
If you have a 240 hz monitor the difference at that point is noticeable. Once your eyes get used to the smooth 240, 120 will look choppy until your eyes adjust back
@@_mark_3814 why would you get into 240 fps to play MINECRAFT in the first place?
“WAAAHH!! WAH! a I need my 120 fps 😭😭😭” “Honey, our baby Whimzee’s throwing a temper tantrum again..”
????
@@newtschmidt525 you're weird
@@TheMaltianRobloxian :(
😂
10:57 He said, "1000 FPS" and showed it running at 670.
Ok bro this guy needs to do his research. Sprinting was introduced way back in beta, the textures changed during 1.14 not 1.17 and he called 1.12 1.2
agreed. I was gonna comment on that stuff
105 fps update in B tier is egregious when a brand new biome is in C
Why do you need more than 120 fps though? I can barely tell the difference between 60 and 120 anyway, much less 300.
Cuz he said he's on a high quality gaming pc and its not letting him go to his peak in fps. 120 fps isn't good for a gaming pc
@@HolyNamedyea, but is there that much of a difference? I get if it was running at like 30 FPS, but there’s barely a difference in 80 FPS and upwards.
@@HolyNamed having an fps cap at 120 and not being able to reach 120 fps because the game is too much for your pc is two very different things
@@mistical5030exactly
@@HolyNamed it is tho i get almost always 120 fps
"The end dimension and the final boss of the game.... Villagers"
-Whimzee
I thought no one realized that
Grox POV:
New title: I ranked the frame rate of every Minecraft update
Is 120 fps that bad? 60 fps looks good to me honestly...
Fr
Depends on the hz of your monitor. If you have a 60 hz monitor you can’t even see more than 60 fps
bro really was so harsh to every update simply because its fps went down a little 😂
1.20 is a S tier update, we got ARMOR TRIMS!
I agree
1.20 was trash, armor trims are useless and needlessly expensive. If they want to add a purely cosmetic item at least make it reusable or not ungodly expensive
@@EmperorPenguin1217 bro, it added a use to diamonds again
@@EmperorPenguin1217 before 1.20 you only mined a few diamonds, and then was done
@@gusguidance A “use” that has no practicality whatsoever and costs more than the literal enchanting table for no good reason. Even then if you want to trim armor you’re only going to do it four times at most.
Putting 1.12 in d-tier is psychologically wrong
They really did cook with World of Colour. Terracotta blocks are ugly and Concrete is actually appealing
yea without concrete builds would look so bland
C Tier, sure 1.13 was great but not for Modding the game and Servers
Many Servers stayed on 1.12.2
He just didn’t mention anything it actually did do, you don’t appreciate the new colors until you play older versions again
imagine caring so much about fps and neglecting all the other features in an update
womp to the wompiest womp
@@OfficialCrzy lmao
1.13 would not be disappointing if we got it now. It’s not every update we get 5 new biomes, 8 new mobs, a new good weapon, new building blocks as goated as the ones added in 1.13, 2 new cool structures, a mechanic as useful as bubble columns, and overall such a drastic change to the overworld.
5 new biomes?
@@tippedjoshua6802 warm ocean, lukewarm ocean, cold ocean, frozen ocean, and all the deep ocean variants
@@michaelelischer1565 Those are all oceans though, like I know they’re still different biomes, but they aren’t that special.
@@tippedjoshua6802 they’re more different and interesting than the majority of surface biomes.
@@michaelelischer1565 Not really
1.12 is underated imo, the modern building age would litteraly not exist without it.
(Also the nether is actually bearable to look at now)
What did world of color do to the nether?
@@flamsey Nothing. In fact, the old netherrack texture is better
@@TheMaltianRobloxian oh wait world of color changed the nether texture?
@@flamsey No, it didn't
@@TheMaltianRobloxian then what did 1.12 do to the nether?
As someone who plays modern Minecraft on Xbox 1, seeing Minecraft with fps in the hundreds baffles me
15:38 texture update is a part of 1.14, not 1.17
The ore texture? But yeah
The ore textures were from 1.17, but the rest were from 1.14
Sprinting was in the game before 1.7, it was double tap W, but I don't know when it was added. Also the textures changed in 1.14, honestly this gives some points to the version imo but i agree with basically everything
Was added in beta 1.8, with hunger
if he has for example 300 fps, and the expected frame rate is 1000, then for lower end pcs; it'll be for example 20 fps as opposed to the expected value of 60.
1.20 should be in B and 1.21 in A
3:45 they didn´t add fps cap, you just had performance set to balanced and not max fps🤓
A few corrections:
1) Thank you to everyone who pointed out you could double tap 'w' in earlier versions of the game.
2) I was looking at framerates since maintaining good performance in a 15 year old game that's constantly expanding is a huge technical challenge that doesn't get talked about much. The framerates only affected my ranking of 1.3 since it seems drastic enough to have prevented some players from even playing the game, and had no other impact on my other ratings. My experiment was extremely basic, so I didn't put too much weight on it. Sorry for not making that clear!
Microsoft doesn't make updates or manage them, Mojang does that.
2 others things: The texture update was in 1.14, not 1.17.
and last but least, you can't say 1.16 is the best ever update and literally place it before 1.14.
Also 1.20 introduced rewrite to game's light engine that made drastic fps difference between 1.19 and 1.20, and it was mid but not as bad
@@Itz2wiceActually order in the tiers don’t matter.
Yeah 120 fps is SOOO unplayable 🙄
1.6 in F tier is crazy, people wanted horses for years and they also wanted another solid coloured block in which they got terracotta, 1.6 was the biggest update at the time.
As someone who played at the time, I was excited for horses but literally didn’t use them at all for several years. I was like 6 so I used terracotta a lot in excitement but eventually realized how bad it looks
it’s not F tier to me, no minecraft update is, but it’s definitely in the lower half
The horse you spawned was a baby.
Yes baby horses are that spindly.
Also, personally I think the horse update should be at least slightly higher given that the horses are the ones from Mo' Creatures back in the day and Dr. Zhark even had his name in the credits for it (I don't know if Dr. Zhark's credit is still in the game or not)
1.20 deserves better than a F
13:38 mumbo is that you??
1.13 beloved update... I remember people got all kinds of mad because of the stability was soooo bad until 1.13.2...
We literally hit a dark point in the games history at that point.... at least until 1.13.2 when they fixed the issue. which later happens again with pillager outposts... and took updates to fix because the jira's staff refused to acknowledge its existence so we had to give videos proving it was vanilla on single player happening and on servers.
also 1300 fps, great you had a good experience... there's tons of videos showing the performance was bad mostly for servers were the worst with it. I remember the TPS dropping all the dang time with the stupid cod. We had to use a plugin that prevent cod spawn until it was fixed.. which fixed the tps..
Single player wasnt as bad probably because you dont stay in areas long enough for cod to have been an issue on that world.
Dont get me wrong, I love minecraft, and I loved all these updates for what they were. but the performance was obvious especially on servers.
Some corrections:
1. The frame rate has never had a hard cap, it's just your PC that's doing it for some reason THEN you REALISE there's a problem with your sound later in the video but can't figure it out lol.
2. Sprinting has been in the game since before 1.0 but you could only activate it before 1.7 by double pressing W.
3. Microsoft didn't start personally developing the game after 1.8, it was still old devs like Jeb and Dinnerbone who introduced new features.
4. The textures were changed in 1.14 not 1.17. How did you not notice this?
Dude wtf maybe trails and tails didn’t give that archeology we wanted but don’t put it in F
1.20 deserves an E at best
There are 2 types of people, the ones who think "elytra" is a good thing so we can fly!!
And the ones who think they are absolutely garbage becouse everyone is gonna be flying everywhere and escaping, and everything is ruined, and minecraft loses its essence
Imagine complaining about not being able to receive over 120 fps it's like I'm watching a toddler throw a tantrum
Reply to this if you're gay
yeah and like nine HUNDRED on some versions?? jeez “it was only around 100 fps but it was still playable” how could 100 fps be nearing UNPLAYABLE that’s insane man
1000 fps is wild like wtf
same me playing with 20 fps max.....
@@AbrahamLincolnOfficialChannel i only get 1.2k fps
@@AbrahamLincolnOfficialChannel game literally plays smooth at 30-40 FPS as long as its stable.... 60fps is smooth and 120 is pretty much best but you dont really even notice as long as the fps is stable above 40...
Bro, as long as you have more than 60 fps, there is no problem. Besides, it’s not like you were playing competitively in 1.4.
I can't for the life of me fathom how someone could not know that sprinting was added into 1.8beta
"this update revolutionized the game, but the fps cap is at 200 fps, guess its an F tier"
1.20 is A tier, actually
It's funny how older updates are ranked higher yet with much less content than the most recent one, yet people still believe Mojang could do better
1.20 was ass
Yeah, i agree.
@@EmperorPenguin1217Cherry groves are one of the most beautiful biome in the game, Trims are possibly my favorite added feature ever, Sniffers, while not being great, is still an interesting mob they can do more with, archeology is also kinda unique and extremely overhated. Face it. 1.20 is good, especially if compared to older updates.
@@Lokie-os9ht Cherry groves are literally just forest rehashes with nothing interesting, armor trims are useless, needlessly expensive and a terribly made way of trying to give more value to diamonds. They can "do more with" basically anything, the fact of the matter is that it's extremely underdeveloped even for post-1.16 mob standards. Archaeology is unique sure but it has absolutely nothing going for it except for a music disc and isn't fleshed out at all.
The taxes and dental care update would go hard tbh
"This update *only* gets me 830 fps, but that other update gives me 1210 fps, so I'm gonna have to bump this one down a tier."
Holy cringe. There is no difference. Humans can not tell the difference between 800 and 1200 fps.
This man complains about not having 1000 fps on an update from 2012 and then calls combat an afterthought...what?
Im pretty sure one of the reasons why the fps was capped at 120 fps in 1.3 was because of some poorly optimized stuff. Im not sure if it had been previously fixed but in really old versions the game would try to give as many frames as possible, for many integrated graphics devices this would cause the game to run incredibly slow (at like 1-3fps). capping the frames most likely was an attempt to fix that issue. If i am wrong do tell me, but im pretty confident that was the reason.
Also im pretty sure you get more lag if you dont use Java 8 or below for the older minecraft updates, which might explain why you had 100fps despite having a good computer on 1.4.
The frame rate was never capped, it's just his PC, and he's presenting it as a fact.
1.20 was a really good update all around for me, we got QOL changes, and a lot of new miscellaneous features that I personally enjoy having and I use pretty much all of them in my survival world. For me it’s an A or S tier.
Most of the features are pretty boring and don’t have any actual use, and archaeology especially was underwhelming. It’s more of a C tier.
@@thegeostormgd9830 armor trims are amazing wdym.
@@Justin_MM2_YT I said MOST of the features are boring, that doesn’t mean all. I do agree the armor trims are nice.
@@Justin_MM2_YT Armor trims are useless and a really badly implemented way of trying to add more value to diamonds. If they wanted to have something be purely decorative at least don't make it insanely expensive or make it reusable.
11:01 him: says we getting 1000 fps. us: bro wtf thats 600 fps. him: i am not being bias *casually is bias*
15:38 this was in 1.14 not 1.17, and they changed pretty much every texture in the game.
It looks a lot better than the old textures in my opinion.
Having a FPS cap is good to not destroy your GPU by asking him to do the most FPS he can do. So no, this was a good thing that they added the capping, but if you like destroying your GPU and neading to change it a lot more and spending more money just for FPS your brain can not even manage. Well then do it.
You can barely tell changes in fps above 120 why is that such an important factor to you lmao
15:38 That was in 1.14... Not sure how that mistake even happened
50:56 "great performance at 1k fps" idk is 650 is equal to 1k...
what time are watching😂
at 7:56 you start by showing some footage of release 1.8, then at 8:07 you switch randomly to showing footage of beta 1.8
never understood why people care about high fps when nothing changes above 60
are you sure your monitor has 144hz enabled? You have to enable it in the settings. Your monitor also might not have 120/144hz support.
@@samdedmon8674i’ve enabled it, and its literally the same.
@@samdedmon8674 well mine is enabled but i agree with him we see almost no difference
@@Roberto-bd3lo for me, I don't really notice as much change from 60-90 fps, but once I'm in 100-144 fps, the change is really visible and great to have. Definitely not necessary to enjoy games though.
@@samdedmon8674 Well from 60 to 144 ofc u notice but the higher the fps the less you notice the change
I really feel like performance shouldn't have even been a factor, cuz most of these ran perfectly fine whenever they were the current version.
I feel like you placed some of these updates higher or lower than they deserved for arbitrary reasons, and it really killed my interest in the video.
Then again, maybe you meant for the ranking to be very controversial to drive engagement. Either way, I usually love your videos, but I’m just not impressed with this one. No offense
Nah its just his opinion and we all have different opinions
@@HolyNamed I’m aware. We all are entitled to our opinions, and I’m voicing mine
what updates do you think should have been higher of lower? to me, all of his rankings seemed pretty good except for 1.13, which i feel should be higher
Wow I do not remember the wither being added that early into the game
The fact that you think that 120 is a bad fps is baffling to me. 120 and 300 fps are the exact same to the eye. This is an update ranking, not an “is this fps not 1,000” ranking
I have a 240 hz monitor and I had some experience with 120-144 hz monitors. I can assure you that there is a noticeable difference between two
I cant tell the difference between 30 to 60 fps
@@Efbgrertdfrgrrtttrf234 there’s a big difference. 60 is the fps that is “smooth” and 30 is like, idk how to describe it but it’s not smooth
@@griglog its not tho i have a monitor 144hz and one 240hz and i see almost no difference
@@Roberto-bd3lo Maybe you didnt play the right games? The difference is more obvious in Overwatch (a dynamic shooter) than while navgating menus in windows
sprinting existed before 1.0! You just had to double tap 'w'
Bro 1.7 didn't add sprinting beta 1.8 added sprinting learn facts
Horse Update - such a creative name
This has to be the worst ranking I’ve ever seen
1.16 was the most excited I've ever been for a Minecraft update, might have been because that was when me and my friend were playing together in a world and covid though.
You forgot 1.21 or the tricky trials update.
Hasn’t come out yet.
@@Pebblez23 I guess, but he definitely could have included it
@@matheuscabral9618 ig, but idk it might feel more fair to judge it when the full update comes out
Mojang made the cap 120fps because at the time, the average gamer wasn't even having a stable 60fps in most games, and 144hz monitors were rarer to come across than being struck by lightning.
In comparison, CSGO wasn't even released when minecraft 1.3 came out. Imagine how little a 120fps cap actually mattered back in the day. People could only dream of reaching such frame rates with their GTX 750s.
Damn this teer list kinda ass
7:16 Sprinting was added in beta 1.8. 1.7 must be when they made it so crtl can also be used to sprint.
Me with my 25 fps
1.14-1.17 was my fav era of minecraft
The Nostalgia bias is strong with this one
The reason Notch could make updates every week was because his game was empty, there was nothing to do, now that there's everything, it's hard to implement something without affecting the rest of the game.
The fact you basically rate everything on fps pisses me off. You can literally not see more than 60 fps yet you beg about "but i have a expensive computer!!! I need it to be running it at 1200 fps for it to be good!!!"
shits fire and I havent even watched it yet
3:33 Why does having more than 120fps even matter?
U were to harsh on 1.20
1.13’s performance claims came from server performance. Chunk generation was exceptionally slow and treasure maps (to this day!) can cause immense lag spikes when generating the chest.. :/
11 views in 4 seconds bro really fell off
clearly
220 views in 6 minutes bro fell off
How
1:48 You like collecting things in videogames then get every firework🗣️🗣️🗣️
Edit: Why is he rating updates by performance💀💀💀
1.19 was really not THAT bad
Heavily underrated 1.13 in this video, not only did the oceans themselves get a ton of work done on them but swimming as a whole was a gigantic edition, it makes everything before that update feel absurdly primitive
12:52 The update was actually the cause of the return of old players, 1.14 was just a test to see if they would continue it or not.
what are you talking about with sprinting?? sprinting was added in BETA 1.8
He probably used ctrl instead of double tapping W because he didn't know (Cuz he isn't an OG Minecrafter) using ctrl to sprint was added later
Whimzee complaining because the game has 120 FPS:
me happy with 15 FPS:
1.19 involved them adding in some of the most complex blocks they had ever done, the most complex mob they have ever made, and the largest structure in the game. Everything they did that update was massive. And Allay's are more of a niche feature that people who want to use them will, for the exact purpose they have.
Then for 1.20 you outright glossed over every feature in the update. And a really inaccurate description of Archaeology. It's a feature to expand structure design and adds in an entirely new gameplay mechanic to the game that can be expanded on at any time. And you left out everything else in the update. An update that added a lot for many people.
And both of these updates are still far bigger then most of the updates in the games history. I think what I said above also applies to the rest of this video in general, you ignoring a lot of the things all of these updates did.
oh god not you again. mr mojang glazer
@@fyreexe4121 Do you have an actual counter to what I said or are you just going to resort to insults without actually saying anything?
@@plumfadoodle4908 alright then. to your first point, this ranking isn't about how difficult it was for them to code it. it's about how fun the update is. so sure, they made these complex blocks and complex mob with complex mechanics, but it's not as fun of an update compared to previous updates. 1.19 is not even close in size to 1.18, 1.16, 1.14 or 1.13. saying it is 'massive' is simply not true.
as for 1.20, what features did he gloss over? archaeology in its current form is just not that fun. the loot is useless, aside from the occasional diamond or armour trim, and unless they improve that, it's not a fun feature. and how exactly would they expand upon this 'entirely new game mechanic'? by adding more blocks you can brush, or more loot? that's hardly expanding upon it, more just adding to it. what else did he miss out? maybe bamboo wood, which is useful but not insanely so, chiseled bookshelves which are again, slightly useful, and the two plants for the sniffer that do nothing and have no function whatsoever.
and saying these two updates are bigger than most updates in the game's history is just not true. these two updates added a couple new biomes, a mostly useless game mechanic and a cool new structure.
@@plumfadoodle4908 is that good enough for you?
@@fyreexe4121 Dammit I just deleted everything I wrote when trying to copy it in case anything went wrong, now I have to do that all over again. I was almost done too. At least I had had an earlier version copied before the deletion. At least now like 20 minutes later I rewrote everything and updated this first paragraph about it. I could remove this, but I don't feel like it.
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Yes, it is far better to respond to someone on the internet you disagree with, with an actual statement. And it allows for a proper civil discussion that holds meaning.
Now for my thoughts on what you said.
That list of updates you gave comparing 1.19's size consists of 4 updates. This list had 20, and I for one like to include all the beta updates as well. And the quantity of what an update adds is not indicative of what's really there. The features that were worked on were highly complex things they had never done before. And this update came only 6 months after 1.18 properly released. The Ancient City, Warden and all sculk related blocks were massive things to have been worked on. That's why it was split off. Same as 1.20. And none of that even talks about how bedrock and Java weren't being updated at the same version at the same time till 1.16. Or the giant list of technical and bugchanges. Both of them are absolutely bigger then most of the games updates. And that's even discounting the previously mentioned bugfixes with the wider code base, or them working on both version at the same time better now.
Then on that same subject of 1.19, all he says about the Deep Dark is that it's cool. Pulling up a misleading screenshot of the loot and glossing over everything it does. When in actuality Ancient Cities have great loot. And beyond that a structure and biome is more then what you get from it. By the logic of judging a structure purely for their loot, you could put a chest full of diamond blocks in a desert well and it would be the greatest most fun structure ever. Or claim Ancient Cities are as big of a feature as any olden structure because technically it is just one structure and thus equal in size to a desert well. Ancient Cities are now considered a widely loved part of the game. An adventure that is considered to be immensely fun to go through. Something that progressed Minecraft in pop culture. And all of that is leaving out what people like about anything to do with Mangroves, the entire other half of the Wild Update. Most of this updates issues was with it's name giving a misleading scope.
And then on the topic of fun, I wouldn't be having these criticisms if he bothered to explain anything on his thoughts. Ancient Cities are a well loved structure considered by many to be deeply fun, same as everything that goes with it. Ancient Cities aren't even mentioned here, besides a brief mention of "loot bad" in an outstandingly misleading image that doesn't talk about anything the Deep Dark has. And none of that even includes the other half of the update with the Mangroves and everything people love about the features that place introduced. Or everything 1.20 added that appealed to so many people that he didn't even bother to mention or say a single opinion on.
Then for the other features in 1.20. Calibrated Sculk Sensor, Chiseled Bookshelf, Hanging signs and all the sign changes in general, Piglin Head, The two new woodsets, including the entire new biome with a really unique tree, leaves and flower. Sniffer and Camel, and everything Sniffer comes with, including the hatching and digging mechanics that weren't in the game before, leading to the endless possibilities for that, the 20 decorated sherd and the decorated pots themselves, and the entire new armor trim system with the Netherite upgrade. With all that on it's own being what I believe is the third highest item count an update has had thus far. 1.20 was a solid update I myself consider to be a nice B tier one, not as great as some of the heights in the last 7 years, but a good one that pushes the game forwards with future set up. It was an update that did many things and focused on adding well wanted features into the game and with plenty of QoL. That's what the update was about, the adventures gone around from exploration and the stories of blocks. A large experience players of all types can do with many features to take advantage of. Plus the giant list of bugfixes and technical changes this update did. But this isn't going into you're point on Archaeology.
Sniffer plants then of course have a use, not only can they be dyes but Torchflower can be used for a night vision stew. And even if you ignore that they are useful for the decorative niches they provide of being fantastical, I see them pop all all the time in many builds. Not everything is something that provides value to every player. The term of usefulness isn't an objective catchall for every feature.
Archaeology is a new system to the game with a gameplay never before seen in the game before, it isn't objectively boring just because you find it to be. This is a feature meant to improve structure design and environmental storytelling. It's something that greatly expands the structures of the world, and any new ones they add. Overtime in a structure you unearth the ancient past, seeing tiny bits of lore hints people can make their own inferences on. The Nether and End for one would have outstanding things showing up in either of those places once the system comes there. What was in 1.20 was just the start of the feature. And in this update alone both Ocean Monuments now have a side part where you skirt around the ruins fighting drowned while you unearth the sus blocks. And Desert Temples/Wells also benefited from the system by expanding what they could do. And all 4 of them weren't places designed to have this feature yet they benefit a lot from it. The system is like a new chest type except you engage with it a lot more in gameplay. Archaeology is like a sidequest you can go into in any structure for whatever unique things it brings. Wherever it goes it increases the environmental story telling they can do in any structure, pushing the limits of what they are capable of doing for structure design. A good example of that is how the Cataclysm Mod used it in the Ancient Pyramids that I saw yesterday in an overview video I watched, where while you go through this giant maze of a structure, sus sand is scattered around, having you slowly unearth whatever is hidden whenever you see it while adventuring and fighting bone dinosaurs. Future structures this game could provide could be just like that. Expanding the things you do while in one to be a more immersive experience. And it makes the structures last longer with a different type of gameplay other then what it would already provide at a first glance.
While Archaeology did not return for The Tricky Trial's Update for what I think is the understandable reason of it not exactly fitting the Trial Chambers. Two other features did come back for it. The pottery sherds and the armor trims. Both of which greatly expanded the sort of loot any structure could have. And doing something normal chests are currently incapable of being, unique things to find around the structure. The decorated pots enhance both the gameplay and the vibes of the structure. While Armor Trims give out a wider loot pool. Archaeology would be a bigger version of that the next time it returns. This is also just like Trial Spawners and Vaults showing up in this update, or the ominous effects. All of which greatly expand the potential of what tools they can use for anywhere in the game at any time. This is a game that they intend to update forever, having systems like these are great for the longevity. And all of them are clearly just getting started. Redstone for one itself was a tiny piece of what it is today back when it first came.
1.4 update was arguably my favorite update they ever did. Fun fact, I had never beat the wither but I always knew he was super tough. So when I decided to fight him in my best world, I went like 4k blocks away just to beat him so he wouldn’t destroy any of my stuff if I struggled. He destroyed me for about an hour, before I finally gave up and went back to my house. Never went back either, just let him take the land for himself. I like to imagine he’s still out there to this day, just destroying land and wreaking havoc to that side of my map. Or should I say, his side of the map now lol
Literally why would you ever need more than 60 FPS. Even 30 FPS is more than sufficient
Adventure, Spawn Egg, Faithful, Villager Trading, Pretty Scary, Redstone, Horse, The Update that Changed the World, Bountiful, Combat, Frostburn, Exploration, World of Color, Update Aquatic, Village & Pillage, Buzzy Bees, Nether, Caves & Cliffs Part I, Caves & Cliffs Part II, The Wild, Trails & Tales, Tricky Trials.
1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8, 1.9, 1.10, 1.11, 1.12, 1.13, 1.14, 1.15, 1.16, 1.17, 1.18, 1.19, 1.20, 1.21.
I get the point he’s making about archaeology, however I do think it’s funny he basically said “the archaeology update is bad because it’s to much like actual archaeology and not fake archaeology”
putting 1.20 in F tier is a MOVE when it added like.. the best decorative blocks in the game
“And the final boss of the game villagers” wait no your not wrong
I hate and feel bad for this kid at 4:25 he could have just turned it on peaceful but to be fair he’s only like four and definitely can’t hide his emotions 😂
Interesting to see a rank like this in a vanilla (unmodded) standpoint
In the modding world, a rank like this would be very different; 1.12 would be the in highest ranking precisely because of the "stagnancy" of features, that allowed mods to get complex with their mods without the worry of another version to update. 1.13 would be featured at the bottom because not only it was the first time modders and players needed to "move on" but also was a very disruptive update internally - change of numeric to string ids, the introduction of datapacks, etc.
Before those, 1.7(.10) would also be featured high on the list - before 1.12 it was the version to choose to make huge modpacks - and 1.8 would be featured even lower than 1.13: it suffered not only very similar problems than 1.13 but also featured the first major incident in the history of modded, when a disgruntled Bukkit (modded server software) dev did a DCMA to a fork of the project called Spigot because the folks refused to let the whole project go down and tried to keep the Bukkit alive in some form.
You missspeled some ubdate names:
-1.19: Caves and Cliffs part 3
-1.20: Caves and Cliffs part 4
-1.21: Caves and Cliffs part 5
17:25 brushing is literally what archaeology is