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There is one thing that baffled me about this entire video, the focus on framerates and how it was enough to bump down updates multiple tiers when they were still above 60. 120 is more than enough fps to play the game and an update should not be thrown into the darkest pit of hades because it "Only runs at 120 fps". Doesn't help that the logic is applied at seemingly random too, since some updates have extremely low framerates and get placed high, yet other updates that were praised were tossed to the bottom for having the same low framerates. That is just mind boggling logic to me.
I agree, it seems like this guy is frustrated that mojang didn't accommodate the updates to his high end pc almost a decade ago when high end pc were a rarity.
Honestly, grading the versions on performance rather than actual content makes this tier list sort of invalid for me. I don‘t care if i have 1000 or 800 fps. If my eyes can‘t spot the difference, i won‘t complain. And no, you won‘t see a difference between 150 and 300 fps
Exactly, if it’s some graphical AAA masterpiece you might see a difference, but in Minecraft you would probably have to slow the game down to even notice
7:22 that's just straight up incorrect 😂 Sprinting was added all the way back in beta 1.8, before the 1.0 update. You just had to double tap W for it to activate
@@Sprigatitto740 it was a split update like 1.17-1.18 (and the promised content finally delivered in 1.19) funny how adventure update was also technically 3 updates long, but beta 1.9 has never been officially released
1.3 D tier because of 120 FPS??? Bruh, I used to play on 20 FPS all the time because I never touched the settings and I was FINE with it. Who do you think you are, fancy PC owner? You better look at us back in the day, Whimzee.
Getting an fps amount like 120 although it is good fps, is unacceptable no matter how old the game is. Most consistent gamers have a high end pc, how about you appreciate the good parts of the video instead of hating on the one part you didn’t like.
@@Contier7If you're upset over getting 120fps then that's just sad it's the same look after 60 also we're going to talk about how he talked about the frame rate since it affected most the video
@@akintolashekoni4600 60 fps and 120 is a huge visual difference to me. Idk if your eyes just dont work but there is 100% a very visible difference, and on a high end pc you should expect to get at least 800 fps, whether or not you can visually see the difference, thats not what matters-
1.14 changed the textures, 1.17 changed the ore textures, and technically the caves and cliffs update was split into four parts because of archeology I loved 1.19 because of how easy it was to find and raid an ancient city with just a pickaxe and shears, and if you find a mending diamond hoe and destroy all the shriekers the deep dark becomes free xp. Plus wardens are very fun to mess around with I personally enjoyed armor trims, it’s fun collecting them and showing them off to your friends
And we are gunna have caves and cliffs 5 too adding one more underground structure the trial chamber. It's not tricktails, it's tricky trickycaves for me. MOJANG IF 1.22 IS NOT AN ENDER UPDATE 😡
I once found an ancient city and I completely overtook it. I destroyed all the skulk sensors and shriekers. I never had to worry about a warden because of swift sneak
"NOooooooooooooooooooo My Pc Can't go more than 1200 fps !1!1! THIS UPDATE SUCKS !1!1! " Like bro? 120 fps isn't good enough for you? 20 fps is decent, 30 is good and 50-60 is a miracle for me, if a game is running at 60 fps its good enough, if he was complaining about his performance being lower than 50 fps i atleast would consider his opinion but goddamn, complaining that your pc can't go above 120 fps is just pathetic.
@@Sucullentbutter bro if he didnt have a good pc the game would run poorly. thats what he complains about. 1200 fps to 700 is 500 fps diference, thats huge, he is comparing the game performance difference, not his pc´s.
@@prroagil1233 on a shitty pc it'd still be like 30-60 which is totally fine, especially for a game of its age. it's over ten years old and crafted from the ground up by a indie dev and added on continually throughout. could definitely use some more optimization but it's just overall an odd and unnecessary choice to bring up for each update.
Only listened to your first 3 opinions, though hearing you care about the framerate and dissing 1.3 for the framerate cap boils my fucking blood, it's not that big of a deal man Edit: I did listen to the rest of le video after commenting, I still think framerate should not be a major factor
@@Bakawii The problem is bitching about a framerate cap when 30fps can do anyone without a gamer PC just fine on any game. Also there's a video on why higher framerate doesn't guarantee extra smoothness, watch it and you'll understand
@@djangel3108bro how did you not know what a 144hz monitor is it’s a basic gaming monitor that makes it so you can see games at 144fps i feel like if you’re over 11 years old that should be known
@@capella5783 What exactly is showboating? And why in the world is Whimzee complaining about over a hundred FPS when a lot of people play on just 60 FPS
If you have a 240 hz monitor the difference at that point is noticeable. Once your eyes get used to the smooth 240, 120 will look choppy until your eyes adjust back
The transition from "maybe 1.17 wasn't so bad after all, time made me appreciate it more" to "EVERY MODERN UPDATE SUCKS CAMEL BALLS" was really eye opening tbh
1.13 would not be disappointing if we got it now. It’s not every update we get 5 new biomes, 8 new mobs, a new good weapon, new building blocks as goated as the ones added in 1.13, 2 new cool structures, a mechanic as useful as bubble columns, and overall such a drastic change to the overworld.
@@ThatHolyGameryea, but is there that much of a difference? I get if it was running at like 30 FPS, but there’s barely a difference in 80 FPS and upwards.
I know he just put it there to drum up discussion in the comments to boost his video, but it still frustrates me enough to talk about it. Hes so obsessed with frame rate that the game where anything above 30 fps is perfectly playable is D tier because they limited the frame rate to 120 or less. Completely disregarding the entire content of the update, instead judging it for not having procedural enough dungeons?? 1.16 added bastions to the nether which have a few specific presets to pick from, and yet bastions are just sooo much better than the desert temple fsr?? Its so stupid, tbh im just gonna stop watching now so his video gets slightly less average watchtime
@@jc_art_ 1.3 had SO much new content and SO much improvement to the last update, then we have this guy who puts it at D tier when it goes below 120fps. Plus it’s on max render distance so he kinda just did this to himself. I bet he’s one of those people who think anything below 10000 fps is unplayable and looks choppy
1.20 was trash, armor trims are useless and needlessly expensive. If they want to add a purely cosmetic item at least make it reusable or not ungodly expensive
@@gusguidance A “use” that has no practicality whatsoever and costs more than the literal enchanting table for no good reason. Even then if you want to trim armor you’re only going to do it four times at most.
Sprinting was in the game before 1.7, it was double tap W, but I don't know when it was added. Also the textures changed in 1.14, honestly this gives some points to the version imo but i agree with basically everything
if he has for example 300 fps, and the expected frame rate is 1000, then for lower end pcs; it'll be for example 20 fps as opposed to the expected value of 60.
The horse you spawned was a baby. Yes baby horses are that spindly. Also, personally I think the horse update should be at least slightly higher given that the horses are the ones from Mo' Creatures back in the day and Dr. Zhark even had his name in the credits for it (I don't know if Dr. Zhark's credit is still in the game or not)
1.13 beloved update... I remember people got all kinds of mad because of the stability was soooo bad until 1.13.2... We literally hit a dark point in the games history at that point.... at least until 1.13.2 when they fixed the issue. which later happens again with pillager outposts... and took updates to fix because the jira's staff refused to acknowledge its existence so we had to give videos proving it was vanilla on single player happening and on servers. also 1300 fps, great you had a good experience... there's tons of videos showing the performance was bad mostly for servers were the worst with it. I remember the TPS dropping all the dang time with the stupid cod. We had to use a plugin that prevent cod spawn until it was fixed.. which fixed the tps.. Single player wasnt as bad probably because you dont stay in areas long enough for cod to have been an issue on that world. Dont get me wrong, I love minecraft, and I loved all these updates for what they were. but the performance was obvious especially on servers.
You're a child if you think 1.20 is F-tier. Armor trims and archeology are two of the coolest systems the game has ever seen and that update laid the groundwork for them. 1.20 also gave us some of the best songs the game has ever seen and with FPS being such a massive part of your rankings, you completely overlooked the fact that 1.20 was also a bug-fixing update that doubled FPS for the majority of players. Super hypocritical. You gave an update that only introduced 4 new blocks and 1 new mob grace for being a bug fixing update, but you think 1.20 adding twenty times as much content and doing a better job with bug fixes is seriously F tier? Plus the village and pillage update broke so much of the game, I can't believe you'd put it in S. 1.20 had to work overtime trying to undo some of the damage done by 1.14
@@mistical5030 yeah I mean Minecraft is never gonna add anything like that, it wouldn’t be vanilla. Archeology is just a fun new way to package loot and trail ruins are an interesting new puzzle structure. He’s coming into it with the way wrong expectations. If they add a structure like say cave ruins like underwater ruins but you have to fight mobs in between brushing gravel, I could see that as a way to add more adventure. But it’s a game about blocks. We’re not going to be getting a boulder trap or Eurocentric stereotypes about old world artifacts and buried locations. I would be mad if we did.
It's not that low but it's definitely trash. Armor trims are single-purpose useless trash that was a poorly implemented way to try to give more diamond value and archaeology was somehow worse than what was shown at the LIVE entire years prior. Groundwork doesn't mean much when they provide pretty much nothing to begin with.
"This update *only* gets me 830 fps, but that other update gives me 1210 fps, so I'm gonna have to bump this one down a tier." Holy cringe. There is no difference. Humans can not tell the difference between 800 and 1200 fps.
@@EmperorPenguin1217Cherry groves are one of the most beautiful biome in the game, Trims are possibly my favorite added feature ever, Sniffers, while not being great, is still an interesting mob they can do more with, archeology is also kinda unique and extremely overhated. Face it. 1.20 is good, especially if compared to older updates.
@@Lokie-os9ht Cherry groves are literally just forest rehashes with nothing interesting, armor trims are useless, needlessly expensive and a terribly made way of trying to give more value to diamonds. They can "do more with" basically anything, the fact of the matter is that it's extremely underdeveloped even for post-1.16 mob standards. Archaeology is unique sure but it has absolutely nothing going for it except for a music disc and isn't fleshed out at all.
4:45 Wait a minute sir, you *Do* realize that you can’t comprehend anything past 60 fps? Just because the frame rate isn’t 120 doesn’t mean it’s bad. Anything at 60 and above, means you are at a smooth fps. You don’t need anything above 60 for it to be playable.
1.20 was a really good update all around for me, we got QOL changes, and a lot of new miscellaneous features that I personally enjoy having and I use pretty much all of them in my survival world. For me it’s an A or S tier.
@@FatCat_mm2 Armor trims are useless and a really badly implemented way of trying to add more value to diamonds. If they wanted to have something be purely decorative at least don't make it insanely expensive or make it reusable.
Im pretty sure one of the reasons why the fps was capped at 120 fps in 1.3 was because of some poorly optimized stuff. Im not sure if it had been previously fixed but in really old versions the game would try to give as many frames as possible, for many integrated graphics devices this would cause the game to run incredibly slow (at like 1-3fps). capping the frames most likely was an attempt to fix that issue. If i am wrong do tell me, but im pretty confident that was the reason. Also im pretty sure you get more lag if you dont use Java 8 or below for the older minecraft updates, which might explain why you had 100fps despite having a good computer on 1.4.
@@Roberto-bd3lo for me, I don't really notice as much change from 60-90 fps, but once I'm in 100-144 fps, the change is really visible and great to have. Definitely not necessary to enjoy games though.
The fact that you think that 120 is a bad fps is baffling to me. 120 and 300 fps are the exact same to the eye. This is an update ranking, not an “is this fps not 1,000” ranking
@@Roberto-bd3lo Maybe you didnt play the right games? The difference is more obvious in Overwatch (a dynamic shooter) than while navgating menus in windows
1.20 barely gave anything. When you look at what they added a majority of the things are just visual variants. It objectively isn’t one of the biggest.
I get the point he’s making about archaeology, however I do think it’s funny he basically said “the archaeology update is bad because it’s to much like actual archaeology and not fake archaeology”
1.6 in F tier is crazy, people wanted horses for years and they also wanted another solid coloured block in which they got terracotta, 1.6 was the biggest update at the time.
As someone who played at the time, I was excited for horses but literally didn’t use them at all for several years. I was like 6 so I used terracotta a lot in excitement but eventually realized how bad it looks it’s not F tier to me, no minecraft update is, but it’s definitely in the lower half
A few corrections: 1) Thank you to everyone who pointed out you could double tap 'w' in earlier versions of the game. 2) I was looking at framerates since maintaining good performance in a 15 year old game that's constantly expanding is a huge technical challenge that doesn't get talked about much. The framerates only affected my ranking of 1.3 since it seems drastic enough to have prevented some players from even playing the game, and had no other impact on my other ratings. My experiment was extremely basic, so I didn't put too much weight on it. Sorry for not making that clear!
2 others things: The texture update was in 1.14, not 1.17. and last but least, you can't say 1.16 is the best ever update and literally place it before 1.14.
The reason Notch could make updates every week was because his game was empty, there was nothing to do, now that there's everything, it's hard to implement something without affecting the rest of the game.
There are a few things with this video that bugged me that I want to point out: - Sprinting was a thing long before 1.7. And a lot of the background footage you showed was for the Beta 1.7 update, not for Release 1.7 - I personally don't see why capping the framerate at 120 fps is a big deal. At that time there were barely any high refresh rate monitors at all anyways so why bother having the game render more frames than needed?
I feel like you placed some of these updates higher or lower than they deserved for arbitrary reasons, and it really killed my interest in the video. Then again, maybe you meant for the ranking to be very controversial to drive engagement. Either way, I usually love your videos, but I’m just not impressed with this one. No offense
what updates do you think should have been higher of lower? to me, all of his rankings seemed pretty good except for 1.13, which i feel should be higher
yeah and like nine HUNDRED on some versions?? jeez “it was only around 100 fps but it was still playable” how could 100 fps be nearing UNPLAYABLE that’s insane man
@@AbrahamLincolnOfficialChannel game literally plays smooth at 30-40 FPS as long as its stable.... 60fps is smooth and 120 is pretty much best but you dont really even notice as long as the fps is stable above 40...
1.16 was the most excited I've ever been for a Minecraft update, might have been because that was when me and my friend were playing together in a world and covid though.
Heavily underrated 1.13 in this video, not only did the oceans themselves get a ton of work done on them but swimming as a whole was a gigantic edition, it makes everything before that update feel absurdly primitive
There are 2 types of people, the ones who think "elytra" is a good thing so we can fly!! And the ones who think they are absolutely garbage becouse everyone is gonna be flying everywhere and escaping, and everything is ruined, and minecraft loses its essence
The fact you basically rate everything on fps pisses me off. You can literally not see more than 60 fps yet you beg about "but i have a expensive computer!!! I need it to be running it at 1200 fps for it to be good!!!"
1.4 update was arguably my favorite update they ever did. Fun fact, I had never beat the wither but I always knew he was super tough. So when I decided to fight him in my best world, I went like 4k blocks away just to beat him so he wouldn’t destroy any of my stuff if I struggled. He destroyed me for about an hour, before I finally gave up and went back to my house. Never went back either, just let him take the land for himself. I like to imagine he’s still out there to this day, just destroying land and wreaking havoc to that side of my map. Or should I say, his side of the map now lol
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spritng exists fro beta but u need to just duble tap W
How is this comment a day ago when this video came out three hours ago
Under a day👇
@@Destlers_World the comment will've been posted before the video was set to public
cool
sprinting was way before 1.7, you used to have to double tap w to sprint instead of having its own button
yep, 1.7 added the sprint key which is a great addition, but sprinting itself was added in beta (b1.8 to be exact)
Meanwhile me who still uses the double tap to sprint: 😐
wait... you guys don't double tap w's to sprint..?
@@msiio yeah thats so hard especially when the w key is half broken
@@HankSchenk oh boy :/
Alternative title: rating updates based on their fps
sounds like true
Yeah man thats so true
fr
I swear I have no idea how that computer can handle so many frames I only got 40 fps MAX
For real tho 😂
There is one thing that baffled me about this entire video, the focus on framerates and how it was enough to bump down updates multiple tiers when they were still above 60. 120 is more than enough fps to play the game and an update should not be thrown into the darkest pit of hades because it "Only runs at 120 fps". Doesn't help that the logic is applied at seemingly random too, since some updates have extremely low framerates and get placed high, yet other updates that were praised were tossed to the bottom for having the same low framerates. That is just mind boggling logic to me.
I agree, it seems like this guy is frustrated that mojang didn't accommodate the updates to his high end pc almost a decade ago when high end pc were a rarity.
@@netheriteingots5896exactly, the focus on FPS was so weird and unecessary
For me performance is the most important part of any update as any new content added means nothing if people with lower end systems can’t enjoy it
@@theoprobst5208 ofc, but lowering a rating cuz the game won’t run 900 FPS is a bit much lol
Heck, the human eye can't even see more than 60 FPS
Honestly, grading the versions on performance rather than actual content makes this tier list sort of invalid for me. I don‘t care if i have 1000 or 800 fps. If my eyes can‘t spot the difference, i won‘t complain. And no, you won‘t see a difference between 150 and 300 fps
I ussualy don’t see the difference between dang 30 and 60fps if the game is good idc
Fr fr if its note than 60 fps thats already a good fps for my eyes to see
if your monitor is a specific refresh rate then any other rate will be choppy; i know from experience
Bro u WILL see the difference on 144Hz monitor when your 144fps becomes 100
Exactly, if it’s some graphical AAA masterpiece you might see a difference, but in Minecraft you would probably have to slow the game down to even notice
7:22 that's just straight up incorrect 😂
Sprinting was added all the way back in beta 1.8, before the 1.0 update. You just had to double tap W for it to activate
To be fair, beta 1.8 was kind of like a preview of 1.0
@@Sprigatitto740 it was a split update like 1.17-1.18 (and the promised content finally delivered in 1.19)
funny how adventure update was also technically 3 updates long, but beta 1.9 has never been officially released
@@randomannoyance 1.0.0 was originally gonna be called beta 1.9, thats also why its pre-releases are called beta 1.9, its 2 updates, not 3
I double tap forward cause I'm left handed and don't use the sprint key so yeah
1.3 D tier because of 120 FPS??? Bruh, I used to play on 20 FPS all the time because I never touched the settings and I was FINE with it. Who do you think you are, fancy PC owner? You better look at us back in the day, Whimzee.
Fr I remember playing like 30-20fps on my pocket edition Minecraft and im fine with it
ooo fancy pants rich mcgee over here
Getting an fps amount like 120 although it is good fps, is unacceptable no matter how old the game is. Most consistent gamers have a high end pc, how about you appreciate the good parts of the video instead of hating on the one part you didn’t like.
@@Contier7If you're upset over getting 120fps then that's just sad it's the same look after 60 also we're going to talk about how he talked about the frame rate since it affected most the video
@@akintolashekoni4600 60 fps and 120 is a huge visual difference to me. Idk if your eyes just dont work but there is 100% a very visible difference, and on a high end pc you should expect to get at least 800 fps, whether or not you can visually see the difference, thats not what matters-
1.14 changed the textures, 1.17 changed the ore textures, and technically the caves and cliffs update was split into four parts because of archeology
I loved 1.19 because of how easy it was to find and raid an ancient city with just a pickaxe and shears, and if you find a mending diamond hoe and destroy all the shriekers the deep dark becomes free xp. Plus wardens are very fun to mess around with
I personally enjoyed armor trims, it’s fun collecting them and showing them off to your friends
Yeah, they weren't completely terrible updates, armor trims, deep dark and two new woodsets are fire 🔥
And we are gunna have caves and cliffs 5 too adding one more underground structure the trial chamber.
It's not tricktails, it's tricky trickycaves for me.
MOJANG IF 1.22 IS NOT AN ENDER UPDATE 😡
Problem: i don't have friends.
Exactly lol. Both 1.19 and 1.20 are so overhated
I once found an ancient city and I completely overtook it. I destroyed all the skulk sensors and shriekers. I never had to worry about a warden because of swift sneak
Blud is complaining for 105 fps while I’m sitting here averaging 27 fps💀
"NOooooooooooooooooooo My Pc Can't go more than 1200 fps !1!1! THIS UPDATE SUCKS !1!1! "
Like bro? 120 fps isn't good enough for you? 20 fps is decent, 30 is good and 50-60 is a miracle for me, if a game is running at 60 fps its good enough, if he was complaining about his performance being lower than 50 fps i atleast would consider his opinion but goddamn, complaining that your pc can't go above 120 fps is just pathetic.
@@Sucullentbutter bro if he didnt have a good pc the game would run poorly. thats what he complains about. 1200 fps to 700 is 500 fps diference, thats huge, he is comparing the game performance difference, not his pc´s.
I average 0 lol
Bruh 27😭
I get average of 12😭💀
@@prroagil1233 on a shitty pc it'd still be like 30-60 which is totally fine, especially for a game of its age. it's over ten years old and crafted from the ground up by a indie dev and added on continually throughout. could definitely use some more optimization but it's just overall an odd and unnecessary choice to bring up for each update.
Only listened to your first 3 opinions, though hearing you care about the framerate and dissing 1.3 for the framerate cap boils my fucking blood, it's not that big of a deal man
Edit: I did listen to the rest of le video after commenting, I still think framerate should not be a major factor
What’s wrong with having the option to use your equipment to its fullest potential?
@@Bakawii The problem is bitching about a framerate cap when 30fps can do anyone without a gamer PC just fine on any game.
Also there's a video on why higher framerate doesn't guarantee extra smoothness, watch it and you'll understand
@@djangel3108if you have a 144hz monitor then 120fps is going to be choppy
@@johnxina8557 Idk what a 144hz monitor is but I'm picturing one of those old box TVs that nobody would use anymore
@@djangel3108bro how did you not know what a 144hz monitor is it’s a basic gaming monitor that makes it so you can see games at 144fps i feel like if you’re over 11 years old that should be known
Ok bro this guy needs to do his research. Sprinting was introduced way back in beta, the textures changed during 1.14 not 1.17 and he called 1.12 1.2
agreed. I was gonna comment on that stuff
3:45 what? Why would you even want to play the game at over 120fps? Seriously
So he can showboat on youtube. Why else?
@@capella5783 What exactly is showboating? And why in the world is Whimzee complaining about over a hundred FPS when a lot of people play on just 60 FPS
@@daypixel7943 Someone behaving in a way that is intended to attract attention or admiration, especially when this is annoying.
If you have a 240 hz monitor the difference at that point is noticeable. Once your eyes get used to the smooth 240, 120 will look choppy until your eyes adjust back
@@_mark_3814 why would you get into 240 fps to play MINECRAFT in the first place?
The transition from "maybe 1.17 wasn't so bad after all, time made me appreciate it more" to "EVERY MODERN UPDATE SUCKS CAMEL BALLS" was really eye opening tbh
Modern updates cool
@@carinaslima cool doesnt mean the updates are good though
@@epicgamerpolihedral
For me they are :)
He makes it sound like the updates teach and then puts it A tier and doesn’t say why
That mf’s vision of “archeology” is delusional ngl-
Is 120 fps that bad? 60 fps looks good to me honestly...
Fr
Depends on the hz of your monitor. If you have a 60 hz monitor you can’t even see more than 60 fps
Honestly, 120 fps gives me motion sickness.
“WAAAHH!! WAH! a I need my 120 fps 😭😭😭” “Honey, our baby Whimzee’s throwing a temper tantrum again..”
????
@@newt_dragon1234 you're weird
@@TheMaltianRobloxian :(
😂
105 fps update in B tier is egregious when a brand new biome is in C
1.13 would not be disappointing if we got it now. It’s not every update we get 5 new biomes, 8 new mobs, a new good weapon, new building blocks as goated as the ones added in 1.13, 2 new cool structures, a mechanic as useful as bubble columns, and overall such a drastic change to the overworld.
5 new biomes?
@@tippedjoshua6802 warm ocean, lukewarm ocean, cold ocean, frozen ocean, and all the deep ocean variants
@@michaelelischer1565 Those are all oceans though, like I know they’re still different biomes, but they aren’t that special.
@@tippedjoshua6802 they’re more different and interesting than the majority of surface biomes.
@@michaelelischer1565 Not really
okay literally who hasn't spent like 10 minutes looking for the hidden treasure under desert wells
Me because I barely encountered them
At least there is hidden treasure there now.
@@plumfadoodle4908 still you can't get early game and its not that userul
@@Szynka666 All you need to do is craft a brush after finding one? I'd hardly call a copper ingut and a feather mid or late game.
@@plumfadoodle4908 i thought the recipe was with iron and not copper🤦
Why do you need more than 120 fps though? I can barely tell the difference between 60 and 120 anyway, much less 300.
Cuz he said he's on a high quality gaming pc and its not letting him go to his peak in fps. 120 fps isn't good for a gaming pc
@@ThatHolyGameryea, but is there that much of a difference? I get if it was running at like 30 FPS, but there’s barely a difference in 80 FPS and upwards.
@@ThatHolyGamer having an fps cap at 120 and not being able to reach 120 fps because the game is too much for your pc is two very different things
@@mistical5030exactly
@@ThatHolyGamer it is tho i get almost always 120 fps
10:57 He said, "1000 FPS" and showed it running at 670.
New title: I ranked the frame rate of every Minecraft update
D tier for 1.3 is crazy
All bro cares about is performance I swear
@@polyeshbe honest do you really want to play with 30 fps
@@BeetlejuiceHasOpps no, but it’s on higher chunk distances, which doesn’t matter to me
I know he just put it there to drum up discussion in the comments to boost his video, but it still frustrates me enough to talk about it.
Hes so obsessed with frame rate that the game where anything above 30 fps is perfectly playable is D tier because they limited the frame rate to 120 or less. Completely disregarding the entire content of the update, instead judging it for not having procedural enough dungeons?? 1.16 added bastions to the nether which have a few specific presets to pick from, and yet bastions are just sooo much better than the desert temple fsr?? Its so stupid, tbh im just gonna stop watching now so his video gets slightly less average watchtime
@@jc_art_ 1.3 had SO much new content and SO much improvement to the last update, then we have this guy who puts it at D tier when it goes below 120fps. Plus it’s on max render distance so he kinda just did this to himself. I bet he’s one of those people who think anything below 10000 fps is unplayable and looks choppy
"The end dimension and the final boss of the game.... Villagers"
-Whimzee
I thought no one realized that
Grox POV:
bro really was so harsh to every update simply because its fps went down a little 😂
imagine caring so much about fps and neglecting all the other features in an update
womp to the wompiest womp
@@OfficialCrzy lmao
1.12 is underated imo, the modern building age would litteraly not exist without it.
(Also the nether is actually bearable to look at now)
What did world of color do to the nether?
@@flamsey Nothing. In fact, the old netherrack texture is better
@@TheMaltianRobloxian oh wait world of color changed the nether texture?
@@flamsey No, it didn't
@@TheMaltianRobloxian then what did 1.12 do to the nether?
1.20 is a S tier update, we got ARMOR TRIMS!
I agree
1.20 was trash, armor trims are useless and needlessly expensive. If they want to add a purely cosmetic item at least make it reusable or not ungodly expensive
@@EmperorPenguin1217 bro, it added a use to diamonds again
@@EmperorPenguin1217 before 1.20 you only mined a few diamonds, and then was done
@@gusguidance A “use” that has no practicality whatsoever and costs more than the literal enchanting table for no good reason. Even then if you want to trim armor you’re only going to do it four times at most.
Sprinting was in the game before 1.7, it was double tap W, but I don't know when it was added. Also the textures changed in 1.14, honestly this gives some points to the version imo but i agree with basically everything
Was added in beta 1.8, with hunger
if he has for example 300 fps, and the expected frame rate is 1000, then for lower end pcs; it'll be for example 20 fps as opposed to the expected value of 60.
1.20 should be in B and 1.21 in A
The horse you spawned was a baby.
Yes baby horses are that spindly.
Also, personally I think the horse update should be at least slightly higher given that the horses are the ones from Mo' Creatures back in the day and Dr. Zhark even had his name in the credits for it (I don't know if Dr. Zhark's credit is still in the game or not)
Putting 1.12 in d-tier is psychologically wrong
They really did cook with World of Colour. Terracotta blocks are ugly and Concrete is actually appealing
yea without concrete builds would look so bland
C Tier, sure 1.13 was great but not for Modding the game and Servers
Many Servers stayed on 1.12.2
He just didn’t mention anything it actually did do, you don’t appreciate the new colors until you play older versions again
As someone who plays modern Minecraft on Xbox 1, seeing Minecraft with fps in the hundreds baffles me
Imagine complaining about not being able to receive over 120 fps it's like I'm watching a toddler throw a tantrum
3:45 they didn´t add fps cap, you just had performance set to balanced and not max fps🤓
1.13 beloved update... I remember people got all kinds of mad because of the stability was soooo bad until 1.13.2...
We literally hit a dark point in the games history at that point.... at least until 1.13.2 when they fixed the issue. which later happens again with pillager outposts... and took updates to fix because the jira's staff refused to acknowledge its existence so we had to give videos proving it was vanilla on single player happening and on servers.
also 1300 fps, great you had a good experience... there's tons of videos showing the performance was bad mostly for servers were the worst with it. I remember the TPS dropping all the dang time with the stupid cod. We had to use a plugin that prevent cod spawn until it was fixed.. which fixed the tps..
Single player wasnt as bad probably because you dont stay in areas long enough for cod to have been an issue on that world.
Dont get me wrong, I love minecraft, and I loved all these updates for what they were. but the performance was obvious especially on servers.
"this update revolutionized the game, but the fps cap is at 200 fps, guess its an F tier"
15:38 texture update is a part of 1.14, not 1.17
The ore texture? But yeah
The ore textures were from 1.17, but the rest were from 1.14
BEE'S Supreme
Also, that 1.15 trailer though, Epic
1.20 deserves better than a F
Alternate title: ranking updates based on how new they are
Bro, as long as you have more than 60 fps, there is no problem. Besides, it’s not like you were playing competitively in 1.4.
Why we complaining about 700fps? Thats about 5 times the fps most games run on anyways. Thats an incredible number
You're a child if you think 1.20 is F-tier. Armor trims and archeology are two of the coolest systems the game has ever seen and that update laid the groundwork for them. 1.20 also gave us some of the best songs the game has ever seen and with FPS being such a massive part of your rankings, you completely overlooked the fact that 1.20 was also a bug-fixing update that doubled FPS for the majority of players. Super hypocritical. You gave an update that only introduced 4 new blocks and 1 new mob grace for being a bug fixing update, but you think 1.20 adding twenty times as much content and doing a better job with bug fixes is seriously F tier? Plus the village and pillage update broke so much of the game, I can't believe you'd put it in S. 1.20 had to work overtime trying to undo some of the damage done by 1.14
i was genuinely so close to just close out the video when i heard him say that when he thinks of archeology he imagines indiana jones and jackie chan
@@mistical5030 yeah I mean Minecraft is never gonna add anything like that, it wouldn’t be vanilla. Archeology is just a fun new way to package loot and trail ruins are an interesting new puzzle structure. He’s coming into it with the way wrong expectations.
If they add a structure like say cave ruins like underwater ruins but you have to fight mobs in between brushing gravel, I could see that as a way to add more adventure. But it’s a game about blocks. We’re not going to be getting a boulder trap or Eurocentric stereotypes about old world artifacts and buried locations. I would be mad if we did.
It's not that low but it's definitely trash. Armor trims are single-purpose useless trash that was a poorly implemented way to try to give more diamond value and archaeology was somehow worse than what was shown at the LIVE entire years prior. Groundwork doesn't mean much when they provide pretty much nothing to begin with.
@@EmperorPenguin1217wow you are really desperate for attention for retyping this on every comment. Do something better lmao
@@SordidSpace875 Not asking for attention. Not to mention that doesn't refute anything I said.
"This update *only* gets me 830 fps, but that other update gives me 1210 fps, so I'm gonna have to bump this one down a tier."
Holy cringe. There is no difference. Humans can not tell the difference between 800 and 1200 fps.
This man complains about not having 1000 fps on an update from 2012 and then calls combat an afterthought...what?
This guy is whinging about “only” having 765 fps while I’m here happily playing on 60
3:33 Why does having more than 120fps even matter?
at 7:56 you start by showing some footage of release 1.8, then at 8:07 you switch randomly to showing footage of beta 1.8
1.20 is A tier, actually
It's funny how older updates are ranked higher yet with much less content than the most recent one, yet people still believe Mojang could do better
1.20 was ass
Yeah, i agree.
@@EmperorPenguin1217Cherry groves are one of the most beautiful biome in the game, Trims are possibly my favorite added feature ever, Sniffers, while not being great, is still an interesting mob they can do more with, archeology is also kinda unique and extremely overhated. Face it. 1.20 is good, especially if compared to older updates.
@@Lokie-os9ht Cherry groves are literally just forest rehashes with nothing interesting, armor trims are useless, needlessly expensive and a terribly made way of trying to give more value to diamonds. They can "do more with" basically anything, the fact of the matter is that it's extremely underdeveloped even for post-1.16 mob standards. Archaeology is unique sure but it has absolutely nothing going for it except for a music disc and isn't fleshed out at all.
Never let bro cook again
15:38 this was in 1.14 not 1.17, and they changed pretty much every texture in the game.
It looks a lot better than the old textures in my opinion.
4:45 Wait a minute sir, you *Do* realize that you can’t comprehend anything past 60 fps? Just because the frame rate isn’t 120 doesn’t mean it’s bad. Anything at 60 and above, means you are at a smooth fps. You don’t need anything above 60 for it to be playable.
1.20 was a really good update all around for me, we got QOL changes, and a lot of new miscellaneous features that I personally enjoy having and I use pretty much all of them in my survival world. For me it’s an A or S tier.
Most of the features are pretty boring and don’t have any actual use, and archaeology especially was underwhelming. It’s more of a C tier.
@@thegeostormgd9830 armor trims are amazing wdym.
@@FatCat_mm2 I said MOST of the features are boring, that doesn’t mean all. I do agree the armor trims are nice.
@@FatCat_mm2 Armor trims are useless and a really badly implemented way of trying to add more value to diamonds. If they wanted to have something be purely decorative at least don't make it insanely expensive or make it reusable.
Im pretty sure one of the reasons why the fps was capped at 120 fps in 1.3 was because of some poorly optimized stuff. Im not sure if it had been previously fixed but in really old versions the game would try to give as many frames as possible, for many integrated graphics devices this would cause the game to run incredibly slow (at like 1-3fps). capping the frames most likely was an attempt to fix that issue. If i am wrong do tell me, but im pretty confident that was the reason.
Also im pretty sure you get more lag if you dont use Java 8 or below for the older minecraft updates, which might explain why you had 100fps despite having a good computer on 1.4.
Dude wtf maybe trails and tails didn’t give that archeology we wanted but don’t put it in F
1.20 deserves an E at best
6:38 I’m bluring????
never understood why people care about high fps when nothing changes above 60
are you sure your monitor has 144hz enabled? You have to enable it in the settings. Your monitor also might not have 120/144hz support.
@@samdedmon8674i’ve enabled it, and its literally the same.
@@samdedmon8674 well mine is enabled but i agree with him we see almost no difference
@@Roberto-bd3lo for me, I don't really notice as much change from 60-90 fps, but once I'm in 100-144 fps, the change is really visible and great to have. Definitely not necessary to enjoy games though.
@@samdedmon8674 Well from 60 to 144 ofc u notice but the higher the fps the less you notice the change
I Ranked Every Minecraft Update (based on their fps)
ALSO LEARN TO FACT CHECK!!!! the texture update was 1.14, and sprinting was added in beta 1.8
50:56 "great performance at 1k fps" idk is 650 is equal to 1k...
what time are watching😂
“I Ranked Every Minecraft Update’s Framerate”*
13:38 mumbo is that you??
7:16 Sprinting was added in beta 1.8. 1.7 must be when they made it so crtl can also be used to sprint.
The fact that you think that 120 is a bad fps is baffling to me. 120 and 300 fps are the exact same to the eye. This is an update ranking, not an “is this fps not 1,000” ranking
I have a 240 hz monitor and I had some experience with 120-144 hz monitors. I can assure you that there is a noticeable difference between two
I cant tell the difference between 30 to 60 fps
@@Efbgrertdfrgrrtttrf234 there’s a big difference. 60 is the fps that is “smooth” and 30 is like, idk how to describe it but it’s not smooth
@@griglog its not tho i have a monitor 144hz and one 240hz and i see almost no difference
@@Roberto-bd3lo Maybe you didnt play the right games? The difference is more obvious in Overwatch (a dynamic shooter) than while navgating menus in windows
1.20 trails and tails gave so much and it’s one of the biggest updates I’ve seen and you’re hating on it!!!
1.20 barely gave anything. When you look at what they added a majority of the things are just visual variants.
It objectively isn’t one of the biggest.
bro is basing everything on fps, past like 100 you cant tell the difference
Ikr this tier list is so stupid
Wow I do not remember the wither being added that early into the game
Damn this teer list kinda ass
I get the point he’s making about archaeology, however I do think it’s funny he basically said “the archaeology update is bad because it’s to much like actual archaeology and not fake archaeology”
This has to be the worst ranking I’ve ever seen
the amount of nostalgia in this video 🥹
1.6 in F tier is crazy, people wanted horses for years and they also wanted another solid coloured block in which they got terracotta, 1.6 was the biggest update at the time.
As someone who played at the time, I was excited for horses but literally didn’t use them at all for several years. I was like 6 so I used terracotta a lot in excitement but eventually realized how bad it looks
it’s not F tier to me, no minecraft update is, but it’s definitely in the lower half
I can't for the life of me fathom how someone could not know that sprinting was added into 1.8beta
A few corrections:
1) Thank you to everyone who pointed out you could double tap 'w' in earlier versions of the game.
2) I was looking at framerates since maintaining good performance in a 15 year old game that's constantly expanding is a huge technical challenge that doesn't get talked about much. The framerates only affected my ranking of 1.3 since it seems drastic enough to have prevented some players from even playing the game, and had no other impact on my other ratings. My experiment was extremely basic, so I didn't put too much weight on it. Sorry for not making that clear!
Microsoft doesn't make updates or manage them, Mojang does that.
2 others things: The texture update was in 1.14, not 1.17.
and last but least, you can't say 1.16 is the best ever update and literally place it before 1.14.
Also 1.20 introduced rewrite to game's light engine that made drastic fps difference between 1.19 and 1.20, and it was mid but not as bad
@@Itz2wiceActually order in the tiers don’t matter.
Yeah 120 fps is SOOO unplayable 🙄
The features are great but i can only get a fps of 500 instead of 1000 so D tier 🙄
The taxes and dental care update would go hard tbh
The reason Notch could make updates every week was because his game was empty, there was nothing to do, now that there's everything, it's hard to implement something without affecting the rest of the game.
You can barely tell changes in fps above 120 why is that such an important factor to you lmao
Literally why would you ever need more than 60 FPS. Even 30 FPS is more than sufficient
1.19 was really not THAT bad
There are a few things with this video that bugged me that I want to point out:
- Sprinting was a thing long before 1.7. And a lot of the background footage you showed was for the Beta 1.7 update, not for Release 1.7
- I personally don't see why capping the framerate at 120 fps is a big deal. At that time there were barely any high refresh rate monitors at all anyways so why bother having the game render more frames than needed?
I feel like you placed some of these updates higher or lower than they deserved for arbitrary reasons, and it really killed my interest in the video.
Then again, maybe you meant for the ranking to be very controversial to drive engagement. Either way, I usually love your videos, but I’m just not impressed with this one. No offense
Nah its just his opinion and we all have different opinions
@@ThatHolyGamer I’m aware. We all are entitled to our opinions, and I’m voicing mine
what updates do you think should have been higher of lower? to me, all of his rankings seemed pretty good except for 1.13, which i feel should be higher
1.20 in f tier is just criminal
who let bro cook⚰
17:25 brushing is literally what archaeology is
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yeah and like nine HUNDRED on some versions?? jeez “it was only around 100 fps but it was still playable” how could 100 fps be nearing UNPLAYABLE that’s insane man
1000 fps is wild like wtf
same me playing with 20 fps max.....
@@AbrahamLincolnOfficialChannel i only get 1.2k fps
@@AbrahamLincolnOfficialChannel game literally plays smooth at 30-40 FPS as long as its stable.... 60fps is smooth and 120 is pretty much best but you dont really even notice as long as the fps is stable above 40...
1.20 F tier? You are crazy, it defenitely deserves C tier at least
My ranking, from worst to best:
*F Tier - Forgettable*
22 - The Frostburn Update - 1.10
*D Tier - Boring*
21 - The Horse Update - 1.6
*C Tier - Middle of the Road*
20 - The World of Color Update - 1.12
19 - The Bountiful Update - 1.8
18 - Buzzy Bees - 1.15
17 - 1.1
*B Tier - Good*
16 - Trails & Tales - 1.20
15 - The Wild Update - 1.19
14 - The Exploration Update - 1.11
13 - 1.2
12 - Caves & Cliffs (Part I) - 1.17
11 - The Combat Update - 1.9
10 - 1.3
*A Tier - Great*
9 - Tricky Trials - 1.21
8 - The Pretty Scary Update - 1.4
7 - The Redstone Update - 1.5
6 - The Update That Changed The World - 1.7
*S Tier - Masterpiece*
5 - Village & Pillage - 1.14
4 - The Update Aquatic - 1.13
3 - Caves & Cliffs (Part II) - 1.18
2 - The Adventure Update (Part II) - 1.0
1 - The Nether Update - 1.16
🏆
Bro 1.7 didn't add sprinting beta 1.8 added sprinting learn facts
1.16 was the most excited I've ever been for a Minecraft update, might have been because that was when me and my friend were playing together in a world and covid though.
Me with my 25 fps
I have an idea for a horror movie: *Minecraft running at only 100 FPS*
You forgot 1.21 or the tricky trials update.
Hasn’t come out yet.
@@Pebblez23 I guess, but he definitely could have included it
@@matheuscabral9618 ig, but idk it might feel more fair to judge it when the full update comes out
Heavily underrated 1.13 in this video, not only did the oceans themselves get a ton of work done on them but swimming as a whole was a gigantic edition, it makes everything before that update feel absurdly primitive
shits fire and I havent even watched it yet
There are 2 types of people, the ones who think "elytra" is a good thing so we can fly!!
And the ones who think they are absolutely garbage becouse everyone is gonna be flying everywhere and escaping, and everything is ruined, and minecraft loses its essence
The Nostalgia bias is strong with this one
never let bro cook again
U were to harsh on 1.20
The fact you basically rate everything on fps pisses me off. You can literally not see more than 60 fps yet you beg about "but i have a expensive computer!!! I need it to be running it at 1200 fps for it to be good!!!"
11 views in 4 seconds bro really fell off
clearly
220 views in 6 minutes bro fell off
How
1.4 update was arguably my favorite update they ever did. Fun fact, I had never beat the wither but I always knew he was super tough. So when I decided to fight him in my best world, I went like 4k blocks away just to beat him so he wouldn’t destroy any of my stuff if I struggled. He destroyed me for about an hour, before I finally gave up and went back to my house. Never went back either, just let him take the land for himself. I like to imagine he’s still out there to this day, just destroying land and wreaking havoc to that side of my map. Or should I say, his side of the map now lol