The Lore of Paradox Pokemon has been REVEALED!

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  • The Indigo Disc Pokemon Scarlet and violet DLC is here and the lore of Paradox Pokemon has been explained it's no longer a secret
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  • @commaD
    @commaD 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    This theory makes it all the more fitting that Dialga, Palkia, Darkrai had special events for the launch of the DLC, pokemon connected to time, space, and dreams

  • @Infamous_wu13
    @Infamous_wu13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    Seems like jirachi woke up and felt generous

    • @Ryu_D
      @Ryu_D 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That somehow makes me wonder what would happen if Jirachi woke up and chose violence... Why am I like this?

    • @aiartificialintelligence1963
      @aiartificialintelligence1963 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Ryu_Dur mental blud

    • @scrappppy7155
      @scrappppy7155 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ryu_Dteam rocket head ass….

    • @animationtv426
      @animationtv426 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Ryu_Dthats just hoop

  • @felipepestana
    @felipepestana 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    This gen's lore was one of the best

    • @TaliesinMyrddin
      @TaliesinMyrddin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It seems that way.. I'm very frustrated recent Pokemon games killed my desire to play right before what would've been my favourite games game out lol

  • @therealbarackobama3946
    @therealbarackobama3946 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    It’s very likely that we’re getting a third DLC, we still have so many unanswered questions, and when you talk with Turo or Sada they will give you their personal copy of the Violet/Scarlet book, which means we can reactivate the Time Machine, and Heaths Phantom Memory where he met Terapagos was just like this, either in this same spot, or somewhere similar, and in the sketch it was the Stellar Form of Terapagos, and Heath had a page of notes where he didn’t know where it came from, so we could have hime travel forward in time to us and either show him how to make the equations or tear out the page, which would make it a Bootstrap Paradox, where there is no beginning or end. We may even in this hypothetical third DLC, we may be able to go to a area in the Future or the Past with more Paradox Pokémon, because it now been confirmed that Terapagos has time travel powers and not dream powers, because we just brought the real Turo/Sada to us, and we know this isn’t a illusion because in the journal entry at the Area Zero Under-depths entrance we hear the professor write about being transported to Kitakami and meeting us and keeping the book which they describe as a white volume, and the book we give is a white book.

    • @XParasiteOctoling
      @XParasiteOctoling 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We wouldn’t go into the future or past, in this hypothetical DLC it would be an alternate timeline

    • @dr.rockso2703
      @dr.rockso2703 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@brunocaruso6007what are you talking about? You can catch a wild kleavor in the Indigo disk. I caught one myself lol

    • @dr.rockso2703
      @dr.rockso2703 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brunocaruso6007 as far as I'm aware no, theres no black auger in the game. But like I said you can catch one in the Savannah biome.

    • @JoeDirtisawsome
      @JoeDirtisawsome 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brunocaruso6007 you can catch a special ursuluna after catching 150 pokemon in the kitakami pokedex

    • @naeshaunedwards7731
      @naeshaunedwards7731 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I would hope so. There is still that unused Koraidon and Miraidon item that hasn’t been used in the game yet (hopefully it isn’t scrapped content), and yeah I feel like there were still a lot of things unanswered. Also assuming the next game or remake doesn’t come out until fall, a third dlc would be really fun, and they sell very well.

  • @GoinGreninja
    @GoinGreninja 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    So Terapagos has an unknown power which allowed Sada and Turo to create an actual working time machine which works thanks to information from an alternate Earth or so? So in a way, it's a time travel story with elements of imagination and alternate universes? It definitely does explain their term, because they don't fit neatly in one codified group, it seems.

    • @chronic_daydreamer
      @chronic_daydreamer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      100% this. It’s evidently not a black and white matter. It seems like Terapagos has space-time bending qualities like Eternatus, but more than that, you see wayyy more effects than just time-bending. Terastallisation itself is confirmed to grant a Pokémon the type it DREAMS of being. And it does more than that still. So, yeah, it’s evidently not as black and white as we all first thought. Which I think is even better. Pokémon is all about the grey. The way we argue over black and white matters just proves the point of the moral stories in the games which so many never seem to really understand or apply, which is sad. 😢 Pokémon has taught me so much, ever since I was a kid. It’s not just fun, it’s about personal and collective growth.

    • @Bezaliel13
      @Bezaliel13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do we really a multiverse for this time travel plot?

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Bezaliel13 That's what the ending part seems to heavily imply, so it's not like I'm thinking this just because.

    • @Bezaliel13
      @Bezaliel13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoinGreninja
      That you met a different version of the professor, meaning your professor met a different kid?

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bezaliel13 Yes.

  • @pokestyn
    @pokestyn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    I feel vindicated. I’ve been a supporter of this theory for so long

    • @JoeDirtisawsome
      @JoeDirtisawsome 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      this theory is still wrong tho. A paradox is a contradiction in the timeline, it wouldn't be a paradox if they all came from different earths.

    • @caiusdrakegaming8087
      @caiusdrakegaming8087 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@JoeDirtisawsome No, a paradox is simply something that contradicts logic as we understand it. Alternate timelines and universes are by default paradoxes, as they will contradict what each other believes is logical. Like for example, the Paradox Beasts at the same time look similar and completely different to the Legendary Beasts we know. That is the paradox of their existence, they both are and aren't the same pokemon.

    • @derekosgood3230
      @derekosgood3230 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@caiusdrakegaming8087 No, the paradox beasts are simply not the same pokémon lol they just look similar. They are obviously not the same. Cyclizar is related to koraidon. They aren't the same pokémon though. Koraidon is just a past species related to modern day Cyclizar brought here by time travel. That's all it is.

    • @caiusdrakegaming8087
      @caiusdrakegaming8087 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@derekosgood3230 Alternate timelines, not the direct past and future. Again, they are Paradoxes because they both are and aren't the same pokemon we know. The whole point of them being from alternate timelines explains how that works. In those alternate timelines, these Paradoxes are just what they are, versions of the same pokemon we have. In the Past Timeline, Brute Bonnet would just be Amoongus there, in the Future Timeline Iron Bundle is just that timeline's Delibird. Maybe they wont have the exact same names, but just like their appearances their names would be similar to what we have.

    • @derekosgood3230
      @derekosgood3230 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@caiusdrakegaming8087 But this is direct past and future. A different timeline would simply mean events happened in one that didn't happen in the other. The pokémon are not alternate versions of the other. They are different species that are related to each other. The A.I said they are ancient or future relatives. Not the same pokémon with an alternate look. Cyclizar is what Koriadon would become with millions of years of evolution. We don't even know for sure if alternate timelines are involved though. The professor acknowledged that we were from the future in the crystal pool, and speculated at the possibility of our timelines not being directly connected, but it wasn't confirmed for sure. What was confirmed is that the professor was pulled from the past and we spoke to them from the future. And they would go on to pull paradox pokémon from the past and future later on.

  • @lucascardona9053
    @lucascardona9053 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    So it's a dimension vs universe discussion again

  • @divockorigi1823
    @divockorigi1823 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I believe that the three legendary birds in Sword & Shield and Regieleki are paradox forms of the original legendarys

  • @chronic_daydreamer
    @chronic_daydreamer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Uhh, Toby. Whatever Heath wrote down can’t have been for the Time Machine because whatever that was evidently wasn’t enough for the Professor to have made the Time Machine. It wasn’t until they got Briar’s Book from us that they were finally able to crack it. And by that point they already had the Scarlet or Violet Book.

    • @leopv58
      @leopv58 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fr, feels like everybody forgot this, even when arven pointed out this specific paradox in the main story finale. The only thing I see that could work is if terapagos for some unknown reason brought some paradox pokemon which heath got to see on his expedition, but I wouldn't buy this theory.

    • @chronic_daydreamer
      @chronic_daydreamer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@leopv58 Terapagos could used the same “mists of time” as we saw at the Crystal Pool or in the anime to bring glimpses of the future to Heath. But at this point it’s speculation. I really do think Heath and the team imagined it all like a Bigfoot sighting kind of a situation.
      Edit: I no longer think that they imagined it after considering other factors like the same mists we encounter the Professor in. But there’s still something super suspicious about the whole thing I can’t quite put my finger on.

  • @justinn8541
    @justinn8541 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +148

    Sad to see this is one of the last Lore videos you will make.

    • @IcarusFallz
      @IcarusFallz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      He'll be back...I hope. I wouldn't be able to resist the urge with the 30th anniversary right around the corner

    • @justinn8541
      @justinn8541 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@IcarusFallz If he does come back, it would be in 2026.

    • @Infamous_wu13
      @Infamous_wu13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He really peaked

    • @Articuno-nu4ob
      @Articuno-nu4ob 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’ll never unsubscribe I’ll always have notifications on

    • @smash1029
      @smash1029 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wait why

  • @Zactoshi
    @Zactoshi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Thanks! This definitely clears up all the questions I had after finishing the DLC 😅🔥

  • @octokraken6359
    @octokraken6359 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    In a way I’m kinda glad they confirmed it this way because it fits for all the theories, so yes they are from Time but also from different timelines separate from the main timeline, so they are not naturally from the main SV timeline and not actually Ancestors or Descendants of our Pokémon.

    • @Josh-qt5zi
      @Josh-qt5zi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Good put that I'm my plan muitverse story and how it all started

    • @XParasiteOctoling
      @XParasiteOctoling 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah, I prefer the alternate timeline explanation. It never made sense to me that the past paradoxes were ancestors of OUR Pokémon.

    • @octokraken6359
      @octokraken6359 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@XParasiteOctoling Agreed, it was very plotholey and inconsistent with past lore and they are way too similar to the original Pokemon anyways. Paradox Pokémon are literally basically regional variants as brand new pokemon anyways. It didn’t really make sense that there are past and future versions of Pokemon anyways. Plus now it confirms that the Legendary Beast mystery from Johto is still unsolved. It was kinda weird to confirm a huge lore drop like that in 3 random dlc pokemon.

    • @Dabrownman1812
      @Dabrownman1812 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's what paradox means yeah ​@@XParasiteOctoling

    • @XParasiteOctoling
      @XParasiteOctoling 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Dabrownman1812Not a paradox if it has an solution

  • @Xero_Degrees_Kelvin
    @Xero_Degrees_Kelvin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    the Interaction is very similar to the ability that Terapagos shows in the anime to show memories

  • @kevinwells7997
    @kevinwells7997 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    This may be one of the last lore videos you make but it’s still a great one thanks for the memories over the years Toby stay awesome. 👍

  • @michaelliggett1622
    @michaelliggett1622 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    So I was correct in saying the paradox pokemon come from alternate timeline apart from the main timeline

  • @M_Alexander
    @M_Alexander 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    To be fair I imagine both Sada and Turo used the lab before they split

  • @thelonemask
    @thelonemask 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    So basically, the paradox Pokémon aren’t necessarily from the past or future. Rather, they’re from alternate universes?

    • @MelioraSR
      @MelioraSR 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Alternate timelines. Alternate universes are different from alternate timelines. An alternate timeline is a branch of it's original timeline (this Pokémon earth) while an alternate universe is completely seperated from this Pokémon earth, often with it's own laws and physics. Sada/Turo also mentions different timelines and not universes.

    • @thelonemask
      @thelonemask 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MelioraSR Alternate timelines and universes can mean the same thing if you go by multiverse theory for time travel.

    • @derekosgood3230
      @derekosgood3230 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are still from the past and future no matter if they are alternate timelines. Which is only speculated thats not confirmed. What is confirmed is that they are from the past and future.

  • @nakajimakaito7464
    @nakajimakaito7464 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Toby, I only found your channel quite recently, not more than a year, but I have to say, I loved every single video I watched from your channel and it is very devastating for me when I heard you're going to stop making content 😢.
    Although with that said, I respect whatever path you've chosen and I wish you'll have a great future ahead!
    Soar high Bird Keeper Toby. You are without a doubt, a Pokemon Master!❤

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thank you so much this is all so kind of you to say

    • @nakajimakaito7464
      @nakajimakaito7464 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BirdKeeperToby you're welcome. And Thank you for being a great content creator!

    • @Bezaliel13
      @Bezaliel13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BirdKeeperToby
      Well, glad the "imaginery pokemon" theory is debunked, for that thing suuucked.
      Seriously, what would be the point in that when you absolutely had time travel?
      Note: Multiverse is a reach, but totally different from being imagined.

  • @silentwolf9225
    @silentwolf9225 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Toby, you are one of the only TH-camrs I will make time to watch even at work, I’ve enjoyed your content so much and have seen just about all of your videos. I’ve enjoyed witnessing your journey, and I wish you the best during your break! I figured I would go ahead and speak my piece so- thank you for everything ^^

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      awww htnka you so much

    • @aaronturton6147
      @aaronturton6147 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BirdKeeperTobyI’ve gone through the story and caught Terapagos how do I meet Sara/toru?

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@aaronturton6147Have it in your party and go to the Crystal Pool's jutting land, and the scene will begin.

    • @KingDuDu101
      @KingDuDu101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@aaronturton6147go to crystal lake with terapagos in party

    • @silentwolf9225
      @silentwolf9225 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aaronturton6147 head over to the Crystal Pool in Kitakami

  • @ML1399TheyStoleMyName
    @ML1399TheyStoleMyName 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    So the Time Machine didn't move front or back in order to get the Paradox Pokemon, but moved side to side between different timelines but at the same relative point in time. Huh, didn't think I'd get to say this but...CALLED IT

    • @caiusdrakegaming8087
      @caiusdrakegaming8087 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You and me both dude. God it feels good to know some of us ironically used a a bit more imagination to figure out a more likely truth

    • @freetriptobahamas8640
      @freetriptobahamas8640 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I been saying this the whole time too lmao

    • @Random-ob2yl
      @Random-ob2yl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Im pretty sure that’s how time travel works, since time actually only exists in the 3d world, ur just switching dimensions

    • @Dabrownman1812
      @Dabrownman1812 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's why it's called paradox.

  • @mr.wildride1954
    @mr.wildride1954 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    That tree better have lore

  • @massimodalessandro108
    @massimodalessandro108 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I honestly find it super lame that they're just from other timelines, it's just Ultra Beasts but again... Would have been much cooler if they were imagined and brought to reality through the wishes of Sada and Turo

    • @BlueJack222
      @BlueJack222 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this because like you know time travel and Alternate Dimensions been there done that already in Pokemon we literally have Pokemon based on those powers, what imagination and dreams like you could go beyond the limit that's what made the Paradox Pokemon so interesting the implication that they were not real but they were brought to reality by someone's imagination

    • @derekosgood3230
      @derekosgood3230 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Them being imagined or brought about through dreams would be the stupidest thing they could have ever done lol I would take time travel a million times over something that stupid I'm sorry.

    • @ontos8914
      @ontos8914 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not really alternate timelines and parallel dimensions aren’t the same

    • @derekosgood3230
      @derekosgood3230 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ontos8914 Exactly

    • @massimodalessandro108
      @massimodalessandro108 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ontos8914 it's hardly parallel dimensions when you just travel a few light years through space to find the ultra beasts and find other versions of Alola, it's like a combination of space travel and alternative realities... Given how poor the writing has been I don't think GF thinks (or even cares) there's a difference between any of these kinda travels, so to me it's just boring at this point...

  • @michaeljob3139
    @michaeljob3139 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So we can see that Terapagos can cause time travel as he zapped Sada/Turo to the crystal pool. So I guess Terapagos and the radiation of its crystals is what caused the paradox pokemon to appear in Area Zero in Heaths time too. Then Sada/Turo used these crystals to build the Time Machine

  • @Jakeee850
    @Jakeee850 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One day we’re gonna pop out of the time machine at Bill’s house in Kanto lol

  • @joichigamemode3219
    @joichigamemode3219 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ive played scarlet for hours, pretty much on and off since release. Ive traveled through area 0 at least 20 times before the dlc for item drops. I saw great tusts the first two times i went in, didnt even see sandy shocks until 2 weeks ago.... 2 WEEKS AGO!!!! BUT!!! I finally have all scarlets paradox

  • @masterz7201
    @masterz7201 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love how wierd this story and some other pokemon stories are. THis is just all so interesting. Area Zero is one of the coolest places in any pokemon game

  • @jaymckeown7601
    @jaymckeown7601 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fair play on owning that the imagination theory was a bust. This is a good explainer of the quantum mechanics and ideas presented in the Indigo Disc, as it obviously isn't that sophisticated enough to be super clear. Heath's forgotten memories and likely due to timelines blipping in and out of existence because of what we learn; he loses the memories because the things they are of no longer exist.

  • @greatgallade
    @greatgallade หลายเดือนก่อน

    In terms of more it seems that Ultra Beast come from deep in space in the main timeline and in their worlds events happened differently but similar to the main Pokemon World whereas these Paradox Pokemon come from different timelines of the same world

  • @plushmakerfan8444
    @plushmakerfan8444 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow a in to the spidervurse thing. Amazing

  • @georges2842
    @georges2842 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Well, I certainly hope somebody picks up that phone.
    Because I CALLED IT!

  • @srdjandakulovic6052
    @srdjandakulovic6052 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    so paradox pokemon are really just ultra beast with just a sligthly tweaked origin, and even then if you believe guzzlords live on parralel timeline earth, then paradox pokemon are literally just ub-s with a diffrent abilities

    • @michaelliggett1622
      @michaelliggett1622 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Paradox are from alternate timelines while ubs are from alternate dimensions

    • @jvbon646
      @jvbon646 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Alt Timeline =/= Alt Dimension
      Those are 2 different things

  • @user-sp9ui8bi7i
    @user-sp9ui8bi7i 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Do you want to see more convergent Pokémon?

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I like them but I like variants more ^_^

  • @MrBuiznessMan
    @MrBuiznessMan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Bootstrapping paradoxes always feel like a let down to me, but im glad it's finally confirmed

  • @niczaz58
    @niczaz58 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m so glad there is still some truth to the time travel over it just being just dreams, I always found the dream theory really lame in comparison to time travel and even if it’s more multiverse travel the multiverse and alternate universes is still an aspect of time travel so I’m perfectly satisfied

  • @scrunkore
    @scrunkore 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    in case there was ever any doubt, pokemon still loves its alternate timeline shenanigans

  • @aureliamastergoomba1278
    @aureliamastergoomba1278 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:55
    My theory was they’re Pokémon corrupted by too much Tera-Energy.

  • @M_Alexander
    @M_Alexander 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So I was hoping for a little more to work with but Terapogos does kinda fit my Meteor Space Dragon theory in many ways.
    Terapogos is at the deepest heart of a two million year old crater, it's the origin of a unique energy that has a strange effect on other Pokémon, and a few other small details that are similar to Kyurem (ancient meteor, fragmented essence), Nekrozma (meteor impact, fragmented body, Z-Energy), Eternatus (ancient meteor, fragmented body, Galar particles and Dynamax), Arceus (otherworld, fragments its own power, its influence empowers Noble Pokémon), and maybe even Rayquaza (stratospheric, empowered by meteors, unique tie to energy of Mega evolution). The two they aren't dragons, Arceus and Terapogos, are both Normal types with unique type changing mechanics.
    There's not enough yet to say it's a deliberate design choice but there's definitely something of a pattern.

    • @jvbon646
      @jvbon646 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Arceus and Rayquaza aren't part of this trend.
      And Kyurem falls on a gray area (pun intended), because extra details dropped on B2W2 kinda contradict the BW alien origin, aswell as it being unable to learn one of the new Space-moves added in SwSh (which every other space-themed Pokemon was able to learn from what I remember). They've also updated some of his Dex Entries witg new info, so it's seems they are preping for the inminent Gen5 revisit, so we will soon find out what they are planning with him.

  • @maravreloaded
    @maravreloaded 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Different timelines?
    Well, that's disappointing. But it's better than them actually coming from "Da Past" and "Da Future".

  • @redjack2629
    @redjack2629 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think you put too much thought into the strangeness of the ultra beasts. Team Rainbow Rocket, from US/UM are a better analogy since they're just bad guys from the various timelines and realities where they succeeded. They're all from earths just like the one we're familiar with... Though the UBs are too, really. Recall the city where Guzzlord is found...

    • @Knight41b
      @Knight41b 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You know how Celebi can only travel in a specific timeline. I think Terapagos can only pull things from the Past/Future of its own timeline. The time machine was pulling Paradox Pokemon from the same timeline you are from. The Sada/Turo you saw was the player's timeline prof from before they completed their research.

    • @redjack2629
      @redjack2629 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Knight41b see, that may not be true. Gotta check some stuff with what happened before and after Arven's birth, since he's already born when sada/Turo comes from the past.

  • @flyingcaro
    @flyingcaro 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I'm a lore goblin, I love this

    • @lynchliam
      @lynchliam 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      “I’ll be having that hehehehe”

  • @babysinclairfan
    @babysinclairfan หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think a lot of us have been missing the whole point of the paradox pokemon.
    The past and future dont exist. You cant go back and you can't go forward. The only thing that lets us experience things prior to our birth or after our death is our imagination or dreams.
    Terapagos is just a very old turtle who's been around from the ancient past and will live to see the distant future. Terapagos turns energy into tera crystals, which store his memories and bring them to life. Somehow, these allow terapagos to access all of his crystalized memories, even those from the future. My guess is that there are a bunch of terapagos dropping crystals everywhere and sharing memories.
    The "time machine" is essentially just a big artificial terapagos that's able to recreate the past and future. Unlike Terapagos, Sada and Turo never saw these far-flung eras, but their obsession caused them to imagine it vividly. That gave the time machine the push it needed. Therefore, the "paradox" is that these are Pokemon appearing after their deaths or before they were born, summoned by the memories of someone who never met them.
    This also gives game freak a lot of wiggle room with legendaries, since tera crystals can just churn out a new mewtwo or arceus whenever the player needs to catch one

  • @Justic_
    @Justic_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the way I understood Sada and Turos version of "time travel" is that, yes, they're grabbing Pokemon from another timeline, an alternate universe, but also from another point in time from that timeline. That timeline is still probably extremely similar to the regular Pokemon timeline, like how the Mega-timeline is to the original timeline, or how Black and White are to each other. It's honestly a rather realistic approach to timetravel taking into account multiverse-theory, if you learn how to travel to an alternate universe, you should theoretically be able to travel to any point in time in that universe, which would be much less complicated than traveling to another point in time in your own universe, although this would of course also be possible from another universe, but for Sada and Turos purposes, just grabing the Paradox-Pokemon off another timeline is enough. It's also a distinctly seperate mode of time travel from Celebis, presumably.
    I also doubt that Sada and/or Turo traveled to Heaths time at any point, especially not with Terapagos, as it seems to me that they only got to study Terapagos in its dormant state, while Heath obviously saw it in its Terastalized state. I also assume that, had they talked to Heath, he'd allude to them in the book, but also that the Scarlet/Violet book alone would then contain information that on its own would help Sada/Turo complete the time machine, without needing their experience of meeting us or Briars book, which leads me to assume that rather Terapagos transported Heath to the future for a moment, quite possibly one of Sadas/Turos labs, where he got the chance to look over their research, while the Paradox-Pokemon he and his team saw would probably have been displaced there in a similar way momentarily before Sada or Turo permanently brought them into the present.

  • @AkaneSasuSora
    @AkaneSasuSora 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    been watching since before the sun and moon release, thanks for all the fun!!

  • @sh4d0wfl4re
    @sh4d0wfl4re 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder if this paradox pokemon time machine setup is related to the Delta Episode's Link Cable at all? Since it was inspired by a pokemon, but clearly a different technology...

  • @Tinkhec_best_maid
    @Tinkhec_best_maid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i mean Terapogos does have the same similar power in the anime
    tho it only shows memories
    welp i guess we have to wait till Liko and the gang solves Terapogos' power

  • @stardust2441
    @stardust2441 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The lore around the professors and the paradox pokemon reminds me a lot of the song time machine by miracle musical (and hawaii part II in general tbh) (go listen to it it's really good)

  • @fruit3193
    @fruit3193 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just a quick thing about Guzzlord. It’s not native to the Ultra Ruins.

  • @angelmagickcosplay4162
    @angelmagickcosplay4162 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not sure if you are going g to ahimangapop Plymouth, and I'm also not sure I'm going this time either. So I wanted to say thank you for being such a lovely person and I wish you as much luck as you need for your next endeavour!! ❤

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Awww thank you. I will be ^_^

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hopefully I do see you there ^_^

  • @fatefinger
    @fatefinger 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    While seeing Sada/Turo in at the crystal pool is essentially a bootstrap paradox it could be not an alternate universe but an application of the Novikov self-consistency principle. What we did was part of history all along and therefore not a paradox.

  • @Zwizard247
    @Zwizard247 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    But what about the weird symbols in area zero where roaring moon/ iron valiant are found

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Literally nothing new on it which is so bizarre to me haha

    • @natewhaley5107
      @natewhaley5107 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@BirdKeeperTobyoverlay it on the world map and its the location of the ruins pokemon right?? I tried it and it seemed perfect iirc

    • @ontos8914
      @ontos8914 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cut content maybe? Seems weird they’re both on the logo of the game but not explained

  • @dezzebotwahe240
    @dezzebotwahe240 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But that doesn't explain how Heath could've seen paradox pokemons in area zero, even before there was a time machine built by Turp.

  • @bravewater5737
    @bravewater5737 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:15 cool animation

  • @user-sp9ui8bi7i
    @user-sp9ui8bi7i 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do you want to see all three or something new

  • @ensignd.crexote5350
    @ensignd.crexote5350 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ima wait for the lockstin one.. lol

  • @ThatFont
    @ThatFont 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You don’t even need to complete Kitakami to go to Blueberry & you catch the paradox forms quickly if you use HOME.

  • @SuperBrand1234
    @SuperBrand1234 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had that thought the paradox pokemons were created.

  • @YouTryIt13
    @YouTryIt13 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always thought that paradox Pokémon were mutated Pokémon.

  • @darkespeon64
    @darkespeon64 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THANK YOU YJANK YOU THANK YOU I'm so glad the dlc has confirmed this because this is legit how I took everything I was confused by every one saying it was born from dreams. This games about time travel 😅 and other games have introduced alternate dimensions. Both can be involved with each other its not like they're conflicting

  • @lorekeeper685
    @lorekeeper685 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always thought it was alternate pasts and futures (before we knew terapagos's name)
    I also had more insane theories like how heath might be a theoritical phisists

  • @ontos8914
    @ontos8914 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idk the story still feels very unfinished like what was the metal plates all about or the etching on the ground in Area Zero like they must have some significance if they’re both on the logo of the game and what about that crystal tree? That seems too important to just never be elaborated on. Surely we’ll get another dlc unless it’s all content that got cut or changed feels to me like Terapagos was supposed to be at the end of the base game

  • @WhiteRaven696
    @WhiteRaven696 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wait, how does that explain the Paradox Donphan that Heath saw?

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sada/ Turo travelled with paradox pokemon to the past the same way they did to the future to meet us

  • @trunks38109
    @trunks38109 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you see this cut scene?

  • @user-sp9ui8bi7i
    @user-sp9ui8bi7i 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Do you wanna see more paradox pokemon in genten

  • @Danny199
    @Danny199 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is so amazing that this theory, or at least part of it, is actually true! I'm glad they explained Paradox Pokémon in a good way, instead of just letting them be there.

  • @ontos8914
    @ontos8914 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait but how does Arven have the book then? If the professor gives their copy to and alternate timeline version of us in every timeline then how does the Violet/Scarlet book end up with Arven

  • @Supershadow493AldnoahShadow
    @Supershadow493AldnoahShadow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've got one quote that sums up the DLC, Multiverse Theory is a b!tch.

  • @TheRealJules119
    @TheRealJules119 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We’re gonna miss you so much Toby….

  • @PKMNCappy
    @PKMNCappy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait I played to the end of the DLC… how do you give them the book? I went back down there and didn’t see anything?

    • @derekosgood3230
      @derekosgood3230 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's at the crystal pool in Kitakami

  • @_Banjo_
    @_Banjo_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    listening to that scarlet/violet song, i cant help think of the Rick and Morty theme...its weirdly similar

  • @RichardWaugh-vd2df
    @RichardWaugh-vd2df 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Haha so yes the Time travel theory was correct

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      To me it feels like both the time travel and imagination theory became true.

    • @RichardWaugh-vd2df
      @RichardWaugh-vd2df 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoinGreninja eh I can’t really see if that way, it’s really outlined especially with the crystal pool encounter that Time travel was happening

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RichardWaugh-vd2df Of course time travel is the focal point. But that doesn't mean that Terapagos doesn't've imagination powers for example. Of course, with how open they'd left it, it's all open for interpretation.

    • @RichardWaugh-vd2df
      @RichardWaugh-vd2df 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@GoinGreninja i agree obviously Terapagos main power isn’t time travel, it’s never really explained other than it being strange power but I’m saying that the Paradoxes and Time Machine are real, Terapagos could have imagination powers we’ll have to see in the anime or something

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RichardWaugh-vd2df Agreed

  • @Josh-qt5zi
    @Josh-qt5zi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Of course it an muitverse thing again per usually I mean go look at pokemon master ex some characters such as Giovannia,Cyrus and chairman Rose are alternative version with Giovannia is the same Giovannia from usum games that lead rainbow rocket or the fact that Dawn and Rei are base on the player's

  • @silentwolf9225
    @silentwolf9225 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ve been waiting for thisssss

  • @tomfran100
    @tomfran100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    >“I’m leaving TH-cam indefinitely”
    >”DoN’t FoRgEt To BuY mY mErCh”
    >does the absolute bare minimum to maximize ads by making a video just over 8 minutes
    >shares barely any new information in regards to lore, mostly recycled information that we knew before the dlc

    • @ontos8914
      @ontos8914 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Okay and?

    • @ianbrink4487
      @ianbrink4487 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Eish, tough crowd

  • @rhinox9292
    @rhinox9292 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gonna miss this pokemon master😭

  • @teamkozmicabyss512
    @teamkozmicabyss512 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So paradox pokemon are from timelines that never happened and timelines that will never happen. Which makes them paradoxes. Also id say its completely different from ultra beasts cuz ultra beasts are from other dimensions if i remember correctly.

  • @TaliesinMyrddin
    @TaliesinMyrddin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gimme a Pokemon game where you explore other timelines and I'll get back into the series

  • @madnessarcade7447
    @madnessarcade7447 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are they actually from an alternate timeline though or did Sada/turo simply miscalculate
    I mean through that whole interaction he/she assumes he/she is in an alternate timeline
    Maybe it’s still the past and future of a different timeline so they can still be ancestor/descendant perhaps

  • @xygo6038
    @xygo6038 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty cool that we caused a bootstrap paradox

  • @leftygurl
    @leftygurl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how does one trigger this sideplot? i wanna know how i can experience it myself, the dlc isnt very forthcoming about it

    • @cartergamegeek
      @cartergamegeek 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      After the credits you should be able to go back to the Crystal Pool and have this happen.

  • @RubyGalaxyYT
    @RubyGalaxyYT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I was never a fan of boot strap time travel stories, I never liked how they introduced items or ideas with no origin. And while it's explained as alternate universes or worlds, it still carries the unnessecary complex element of boot strap time stories.

  • @scottdreemurrthegodofcreation
    @scottdreemurrthegodofcreation 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video literally shows time travel caused by the power of terapagos

  • @Ghostface1998
    @Ghostface1998 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I absolutely loved Pokémon SV and the dlc the teal mask and indigo disk made it even better. This has to be the most interesting Pokémon game when it comes to the lore and still plenty of unanswered questions like how Heath was able to see the paradox pokemon currently in area zero, what is does the symbol in that cavern in area zero mean, who left those unscratchable metal plates, what’s the deal with that crystal tree, what timeline did the AI professor go to. Ik the story has concluded but damn would love to see a continuation of this and if you go to see Arven he has one piece of new dialogue as he comments in the violet book you receive from Turo from the past.

  • @tristanmartinez9326
    @tristanmartinez9326 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I havent played but i must support my favorite pokeTuber

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awh don’t spoil it for yourself for my sake. The video is always here waiting later ^_^

  • @sexysoup631
    @sexysoup631 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as an avid zero escape fan, this pleases me

  • @JamieAlexander18
    @JamieAlexander18 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always thought paradox pokemon was because of time travel stuff. Never believed in the dream/imagination theory myself

  • @jeangarcia6432
    @jeangarcia6432 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You'll never see the master ball the same again! For 2 reasons!

    • @Sam-TheFullBull
      @Sam-TheFullBull 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kieran uses one on Terapagos and then said Pokemon breaks out

  • @user-sp9ui8bi7i
    @user-sp9ui8bi7i 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do you want to see more regional variants

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Always

    • @user-sp9ui8bi7i
      @user-sp9ui8bi7i 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's just the last video i'm going with the band

  • @JurassicMarc1595
    @JurassicMarc1595 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do i get the turo stuff to happen

  • @theLeonizard
    @theLeonizard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If my future is the reason of my past....
    Should I do the paradox of doing the cycle or should I do the paradox of breaking the cycle?

  • @_Banjo_
    @_Banjo_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    are you telling me the pokemon community were overthinking this the past year ? oh my

  • @kidkrazy6100
    @kidkrazy6100 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    YESS MY THEORY WAS CORRECT!!

  • @Derekiel
    @Derekiel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe none of them are from the future, like magearna and genesect

  • @monakasan7486
    @monakasan7486 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey Toby
    Dont leave ok? :(

  • @Levi_Heicho
    @Levi_Heicho 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Notification squad, where ya at?

  • @Frogboyaidan
    @Frogboyaidan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The lore

  • @mobious01
    @mobious01 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Professor churro best character

  • @Nu_Merick
    @Nu_Merick 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    not finding out the spouse of the professsor is disappointing. i had hoped more story and character development for arven and even one more meeting with their parent but suppose not. The Delta Episode in ORAS has dealt with different universes/timelines and steven did try to send a meteor to another universes pokemon world, so yea i could see your theory holding true, theyre past/future pokemon of a different timeline/universe.

    • @Dabrownman1812
      @Dabrownman1812 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no spouse, just alt universe mother/father. Professors tend to be single too.

    • @ontos8914
      @ontos8914 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s just the other professor

    • @ontos8914
      @ontos8914 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Dabrownman1812well no as Arven shared design traits from both Sada and Turo so they are both his parents

  • @peakapiks64ttv
    @peakapiks64ttv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its a Canon event boys.

  • @toonman5099
    @toonman5099 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    VIDEO SPOILERS:
    So...the answer to why they exist is basically just more of what we've theorized about for the series as a whole where each installment is an alternate timeline/dimension/world? But just with an added caveat that the WAY they were created was via some kind of dream/vision mist? Honestly, I don't know if I'm getting it yet.

  • @Cluckenstein
    @Cluckenstein 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The book you get needs to be sent back to them somehow. The paradox isn't complete.