This Secret BREAKS The Pokemon Timeline! - Indigo Disk DLC

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  • We found this secret in the Pokemon indigo Disk DLC and it breaks the timeline as well as explaining the blueberry acadamy and paradox pokemon as well as the secret cutrscene with sada and turo in kitikame
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  • @chaotictiredfox
    @chaotictiredfox 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

    What surprised me is the fact that when you’re standing outside/sea level you can’t see any skylines or buildings in the distance at all. I was expecting to at least be able to see Castelia City faintly on the horizon or something so we don’t know just how far out the academy could be from mainland Unova

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      It's a projected sky for all but the entrance

    • @chaotictiredfox
      @chaotictiredfox 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      @@BirdKeeperToby Yeah at the entrance is what I meant lol where you can look out at the sea

    • @BuizelCream
      @BuizelCream 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@Purple_GojoOh my. Will the BW remakes address this too? I hope so because it'll be so heartwrenching, to then know that Ingo's disappearance is connected to the construction of Blueberry Academy and then Terapagos. But it's weird cause from Legends we already know that Arceus is responsible for sending people back to Hisui in order to stop Volo, or at least implied maybe?

    • @gustavju4686
      @gustavju4686 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah. Especially as it's mentioned we get there via the subway... (the player likely landed in Skyla's town and then took subway to the academy)

    • @fruit3193
      @fruit3193 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I assume it’s off the coast a decent distance

  • @PlushPilla
    @PlushPilla 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    You forgot that Briar was the one who made the Terarium Core. It is made with a mixture of Paldean soil and water from the Crystal Pool. After the ending of the Indigo Disk, she adds crystals that allows Pokémon to have the stellar tera type.

  • @fembuss9528
    @fembuss9528 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    my theory is that if we’re playing through violet, then we’re in the universe where opelucid city is futuristic, and black city exist.
    If we’re playing through scarlet then I think we’re in the universe with a historic looking opelucid, with white tree hollow

    • @c4onmylip
      @c4onmylip 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      That's what I was thinking but who knows, these games are are based around paradoxes and time manipulation after all lol.

    • @trusmedady
      @trusmedady 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      whoa ur using ur brain

    • @fembuss9528
      @fembuss9528 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@trusmedady peepeepoopoo no one loves you

  • @zurbglurb
    @zurbglurb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    In black 2 and white 2 you have the ability to change between the black tower and the tree hollow with the keys... I wonder if that confirms that alternate realities can be accessed????

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Ohhhh interesting idea hoenslty!

    • @ethacon
      @ethacon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@BirdKeeperToby I generally consider those sorts of things to be non-canon game mechanic type things. If they are real things happening that physically affect the real in-game world, then what machine is the keys being used on to change that entire location, and where is it? It's only represented through an out-of-game menu.

    • @ThatRandomRacoon
      @ThatRandomRacoon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ethacon and then you have the delta episode from the oras games where they want to stop a meteor by sending it to another universe

    • @Broomer52
      @Broomer52 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@ethacon Pokémon has acknowledged this meta stuff before though. In multiple games they suggest that the different games aren’t simply different versions but actual alternate realities. In the Post Game of ORAS they briefly mention both how a lot of modern technology uses the power of Pokémon called Infinity Energy and that trading works through the usage of using Infinity Energy to punch small holes in reality, aka moving Pokémon between versions. In USUM in the Post Game you can physically cross into the universe of the other version, Rainbow Rocket literally come from alternate universes where they won, Indigo Disk just casually mentions Multiple Timelines and all but outright says Paradox Pokémon come from different Timelines. Pokémon is no stranger to the idea that multiple universes exist and that however similar the two versions are, they’re canonically different universes.

  • @talhanawaz7951
    @talhanawaz7951 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    I feel like there is also a strong connection that they developed between gems and terastal crystals as stellar type works quite literally like a gem boost for each move.

  • @galaxyplatinum5533
    @galaxyplatinum5533 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Could Colress have had something to do with the Blueberry Academy? After USUM's RR episode he would have known about parallel universes, and the academy isn't too different from the Aether Paradise

    • @nickdentoom1173
      @nickdentoom1173 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      tbh, while i do think BBA (Blueberry Academy), was already in construction by the time the Alola games rolled around, Colress might have worked together with Cyrano in order to figure out how to get Tera working in the BBA, especially since Colress was intrigued by Z-Moves.

  • @WhiteRaven696
    @WhiteRaven696 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Clavell and Cyrano are stated to have done their post-graduate work together by Lacey, which is how they know each other. And we know that Clavell and Jacq worked with Sada and Turo in Area Zero. Cyrano definitely has ties to the Professors.

  • @keeganguyer5237
    @keeganguyer5237 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Maybe they are literally connected in this reality? Black City acting like Driftveil City but for the opposite side of Unova while White Forest is kinda like Clay Tunnel (Being a Landmark)

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Interesting idea :D

    • @Josh-qt5zi
      @Josh-qt5zi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@BirdKeeperToby pokemon master ex some character are pull from other timeline by Hoopa such as Cyrus and Roses,the Giovannia in master is the same one from the ultra games,Dawn and Rei are base on the player charther dppt and Legend arceus,Rei and others Hisui characters come to Pasio though the space time distortion

  • @snotts123456
    @snotts123456 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Here's a thought I've had for a while. What if the timelines are converging in a way. Think about the weird plate in area zero with the intersecting triangles. What if that's a depiction of two realities or timelines intersecting. It would explain Paradox Pokemon and why we see both Opulucid City and the White Grove in the academy.

    • @wildstarfish3786
      @wildstarfish3786 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can understand not recognizing black city but what is "the white grove"

  • @ShnoodleMc
    @ShnoodleMc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Fun fact! You can actually get 3 items ontop of the Orb in the Terarium!
    Not anything lore crazy, but it's fun

  • @oh033
    @oh033 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Now this begs the question. What version of Opelucid City is Drayton from? Will we even get that answer. My prediction is that the next games will be a "Paradox Unova". A Legends game where you get sent to both futuristic and ancient timelines.

    • @yogfan1139
      @yogfan1139 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If they did this, i would want the entralink to be the place we "cross the worlds" like in the original unova games but on a larger more lore friendly scale. i wouldnt even mind it being like legends at this point where there is some kind of divide in the center of the region accessible via the same means as ramanas island in PLA. This would be a neat direction but if they would be willing to take the dive is another story.

    • @chriskagamine358
      @chriskagamine358 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ever since the beginning of this year, I have been hoping for this; though originally I thought of the Opelucid gym being where we cross times, but then I realized it would be amazing if it were the entralink

  • @PixelPikmin
    @PixelPikmin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Finally picking up a Tree of Evolution poster. Been wanting one for a couple years but thought now would be the perfect time to get one as it’s probably the last.

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Wooo enjoy thnak you8 :D

    • @PixelPikmin
      @PixelPikmin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @BirdKeeperToby I gotta say a thank you right back. I’ve loved watching the theories and pokemon teams videos over the years. Wish you luck in what’s to come

  • @mechashadow
    @mechashadow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    8:05 I do love that the stone in the Tera Orb is Terapagos' frozen form in stone which shows how much was thought through from jump.
    Which is clearly a Tera Crystal which brings me to Chicken and Egg question, did Terapagos create the Crystals or did the Crystals create Terapagos.
    I do think it's the latter cos' too much energy from the Crystal and it goes berserk.

    • @MikeTheEnforcer
      @MikeTheEnforcer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤔 What if Terapagos was/is one of Arceus lost children? It would explain the ability for time travel and empowering pokemon with a small amount of its power.

    • @Iwilltouchyoulilbro
      @Iwilltouchyoulilbro 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @MikeTheEnforcer possibly another one of arceus’s arms?

  • @Lunarfly_streams
    @Lunarfly_streams 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I adore the idea of extended Unova lore, especially with the 2 regions characters interacting 🖤🤍⚡️although I feel like it could simply be an artist imagining a contrast between what the city actually is for them -
    Like an artist drawing NYC and then a forest they imagine it used to be or vice versa

  • @shshyie
    @shshyie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The sheer amount of Unova and b&w related stuff in this dlc made me far happier than it should have haha
    B&w/b2&w2 are by far my fave pokemon games and always have been, unfortunate that it took so many so long to properly appreciate it, what it tried to do and what it did do.
    Can't wait to see what they'll do with the region next

  • @Eric-gp3hi
    @Eric-gp3hi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I like the theory of Scarlet and Violet taking place 10 years after Black 2 and White 2. I really want to see Black 3 and White 3 to be made so we could see how Unova looks like in the future. The Pokemon Company should make an official Pokemon timeline book where it states where all the Pokemon game take place between each other!

    • @jvbon646
      @jvbon646 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They already have a timeline, they just haven't updated it (at least for the public). It goes:
      Gen1 (RBY/FRLG) & Gen3 (RSE/ORAS) simultaneously
      ⬇️around 3 years later
      Gen2 (GSC/HGSS) & Gen4 (DPPt/BDSP)
      ⬇️some Unown time later
      Gen5 (BW)
      ⬇️2 years later
      Gen5 (B2W2) & Gen6 (XY)
      But we can take some clues for where the other mainline games fall:
      ●LA - is around 200~180 years in the past, so it's the earliest point yet in the timeline.
      ●Let's Go - I didn't played this garbage, but from what I've seen it seems to take place some time after Red already started/finished his adventure. So it's either near simultaneous to RBY/FRLF, or it's taking the place of those games in the timeline (same way Remakes replace the original).
      ●Gen7 (SuMo/USUM) - Colress, Dexio and Sina show up. So they must take place *after* B2W2/XY.
      ●Gen8 - Macro Cosmos got Type: Full blueprints after some corporate espionage, so most likely goes afte SuMo/USUM.
      ●Gen9 - Uva Academy got a copy of a book published by "Proffesor Sonia" related to the Darkest Day, which doesn't happen until the end of SwSh, so it takes place after Gen8.
      There are some spinoffs/side games that are also Canon to the timeline:
      ●Dream Radar goes alongside B2W2, and Burnet later returns in Gen7 to get breedy with Gigachad Kukui
      ●The Ranger Games, the one with the Manaphy special mission happens alongside Gen4 (DPPt/BDSP). The other's I'm not sure, I haven't played them.

    • @BuizelCream
      @BuizelCream 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jvbon646There's an asterisk to this timeline tho. The existence and absence of Mega Evolution does complicate this timeline a bit due to Zinnia confirming of other universes existing with each universe having its own origin story in a general sense. Pokemon titles without the influence of Mega Evolution removes any causes for AZ's Ultimate Weapon to mark its lore's history, causing XY, ORAS, SM, USUM, and Let's Go to be isolated from this general timeline and kind of having its own running elsewhere.
      One of the several crucial details causing differences is Wally (from ORAS) later showing up in the Alola's Battle Tree without aging up as he should've been. Another detail is with young Alolan Trial Captain Mina appearing in Let's Go during the events of Team Rocket undergoing disbandment due to the interferences of Chase or Elaine (main protagonists of Let's Go), not by Red or Leaf (from RBY and/or FRLG), where young Mina later grew up in the events of SM & USUM the same way Red and Green grew up when they visited Alola's Battle tree, but ORAS Wally simply didn't. This may seem trivial, but the presence of Wally later in SM & USUM does ultimately represent all the important events that transpired in ORAS, causing both Let's Go Kanto and ORAS Hoenn unable to sync up its events happening simulatenously in comparison to its non-Mega Universe timeline of RBY/FRLG Kanto with RSE Hoenn.
      Due to some of these key details amongst others, it instead causes the Mega Universe timeline to run like this:
      Let's Go (Mega Evo remakes of Gen 1)
      ⬇️ # of years later
      Gen 6 (ORAS, and also XY)
      ⬇️ # of years later
      Gen 7 (SM and USUM)
      ORAS Wally not growing up as much years later when Alola events happen is in the same level as Dexio and Sina from XY later visiting Alola for a vacation without much change to their age.
      (And on a sidenote, this also does put to question where SwSh, SV, and eventually the Gen 5 remakes would be placed, especially considering that Gen 5 will most likely be added with Terestral phenomenon into its lore somehow, which the original BW & B2W2 never had. If it does, who knows if the Gen 5 remakes will also reference past titles in Gen 1 to Gen 4 that never had Mega Evolution basing on how the original Gen 5 Unova games did, such as mentioning a guy who was once a member of Team Rocket, pulling Gen 1 events (and then more) into the mix where Galarian and Paldean characters had never heard of before. Who knows what else Briar and Carmine had known when they also explored different regions before meeting Terapagos in the DLC. Could they have heard of Mega Evolution too? That'll be a big indicator.)

    • @jaernihiltheus7817
      @jaernihiltheus7817 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@jvbon646*3 years for the gen 1/3 -> gen 2/4 timeskip
      EDIT: oh, and i believe in gen 7? (Maybe 8) porygon's pokedex mentions it being built 20 years ago, whereas porygon is implied to be a pretty recent creation in gen 1, hence why no trainers have it and it can't be caught in the wild outside of let's go and battle facilities during the kanto games.

    • @PaintedHoundie
      @PaintedHoundie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      we havent seen a timeline since the tweet about gens 1-5. kanto and hoenn games take place at the same time, while three years later johto game and platinum games are for the most part happening at the time same time (in sinnoh games you start your journey some time after the red gyrados in lake of rage happens). then black and white is after those events of platinum/gsc+hgss, then i think black 2 and white 2 are happening very clsoe to x and y.
      the tweet was not up long, but was deleted. i dont think that was meant to be tweeted, and since then they have leaned waay far into a alternate timelines with oras revealing that different versions of different games come from different timelines. so it seems like they never really wanted to commit that hard to a strict timeline, and deconfirmed it to not have to worry about continuity.

  • @finalbossbowser
    @finalbossbowser 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    There's one problem with your question about the Terrarium: it existed before the orb at the top was installed to allow for terastallization. Briar mentions that it was developed after her research of the Crystal Lake in Kitakami during the events of the Teal Mask.

  • @Typi
    @Typi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The one thing I've always been kinda curious about in terms of connections between Unova and Paldea is the Entralink. An area directly in the middle of a region that exudes a unique energy that (at the very least in base BW) is capable of allowing travel between realities and lures in Pokemon from Dreams? While Terapagos's power may not be directly dream-related, both the Entralink and Area Zero have extremely similar properties. In fact, there is ONE way for both White Forest and Black City to be known in a single dimension aside from Keys: Someone visiting the other from the Entralink.

  • @steveopinions9111
    @steveopinions9111 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I have never noticed before that the child mentioned in B/W is named Thyme and we literally have a game character introduced In S/V with the exact same name in Tyme/Thyme (depending on the language version). The age doesn't seem to line up but might at least be a fun reference.

    • @wildstarfish3786
      @wildstarfish3786 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thyme is only a child in white for somehow in black thyme is an adult and has an unnamed kid

  • @dracone4370
    @dracone4370 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    It seems Pokemon is currently focused on/fascinated with timelines and time travel; Legends Arceus has the main character literally being pulled out of the modern era into the early time where Pokeballs are a new innovation, Sun and Moon have time mechanic where their time of day and night is the inverse of each other (and the Ultra version sees them playing around with the idea alternate realties), and then we have Scarlet and Violet having the Paradox Pokemon literally being from alternate timelines.
    Do you think that means that the next Pokemon game will have us dealing with time in some other way? Like maybe the entire region being fractured into different zones of time with different parts of the region being in different eras; which is a fan game idea I did see recently, I'm not entirely sure it was a video on this channel, at the moment.

    • @Josh-qt5zi
      @Josh-qt5zi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Pokemon master ex some character such as Cyrus and Roses are from alternative timeline,the Giovannia in master is the same one from the ultra game
      also the fact that Dawn and Rei are based on the player charther

    • @WOLKsite
      @WOLKsite 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ORAS and USUM also touch on the idea of alternate timeline, with Rainbow Rocket, and the deal of sending the meteorite to an alternate world. They've really went and made parallel timelines a central part of the last five generations.

  • @Levi_Heicho
    @Levi_Heicho 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Another fantastic video Toby! I hope that you’re having a good afternoon/evening!

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      awww ty ty

    • @skistorm739
      @skistorm739 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@BirdKeeperTobyNot altertimeline more paradox prism like in sonic not as op

  • @ShinyLedyba
    @ShinyLedyba 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    just a note but black city and white forest were specific to black 2 and white 2 so if the scarlet violet dlc takes place in a universe after that then it follows logically that black and white 3 could potentially become a thing right pokemon has been known to make seemingly unexpected curveballs but i do feel black and white 3 has a very strong probability of becoming a reality

    • @ShinyLedyba
      @ShinyLedyba 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      also if the terrestal phenomenon would appear in unova it would have to be after black and white 1&2 as briar is the one that brings it there heavily implied i wouldn't make sense for terrastal energy to appear before say in a remake cause it wouldn't make sense but in a triology it would why because enough time would have ellapsed to allow that to happen plus there going to want to keep it around for at least 1 more game just my thoughts!

    • @Iwilltouchyoulilbro
      @Iwilltouchyoulilbro 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      honestly praying we get bw3 or bw/bw2 remakes instead of a lets go johto or gold silver remakes. I understand nostalgia, but i think majority of us can agree gen5 lore is way more interesting.

  • @Lee-km7qq
    @Lee-km7qq 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think it's safe to say, the next Pokémon "remakes" will be "Pokémon Gray" a remake of Black and white/black and white 2.

  • @jozzywolf7520
    @jozzywolf7520 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just want to say that it’s been really nice seeing you so excited about the Indigo Disk. I’m glad you’re having so much fun with your last month on TH-cam. You seem a lot less stressed now!

  • @MiaFerrell2011
    @MiaFerrell2011 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Next game HAS to take place in Unova, but will it be a future Unova? Or a past one? Or both....

  • @morganmckerchar4333
    @morganmckerchar4333 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    6:36 Cyrano says specifically that Briar is the one who came up with the power source thingy... the big ball thingy, what ever it is fake sun.

  • @Uukkb
    @Uukkb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I always refused to believe that the mega evolutions were a part of a different timeline, but now when we have this video I guess there's no other options to believe

    • @michaelliggett1622
      @michaelliggett1622 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It literally revealed in the oras delta episode game that the only reason mega evolution exist is because the ultimate weapon in x and y was fired where in ruby sapphire and emerald it wasn't as a result those did not have mega evolution

    • @nickdentoom1173
      @nickdentoom1173 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The problem still is connectivity and references, so they have to be on the same timeline.
      Despite Galar lacking Mega Evolution, it has to be on the Mega Timeline, due to Galar being referenced in Alola (Power spot mention), but also becaus we get Type:Null post-game and the Aether Foundation is indirectly mentioned.
      My general believe of the timeles are
      Timeline 1: Every Generation game (So Blue/Red, G/S, R/S, D/P, B/W, X/Y, S/M, SWSH, ScarVio)
      Timeline 2: Every third version
      Timeline 3: Every remake
      Timeline 4: Lets Go timeline
      Timeline 5: Is the timeline we will never visit, as this is the timeline where every evil team won, due to lack of a protagonist.

    • @Stinkoman87
      @Stinkoman87 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's not two timelines; its infinite timelines. Every save file of every cartridge is its own timeline.

    • @Uukkb
      @Uukkb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Now I like to believe that the other time lines could be accessed through ultra wormholes, not in the games of course, but in the lore

    • @simple7708
      @simple7708 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@nickdentoom1173 Did they mention that all villains won in the same timeline? I always imagined the villains were plucked from many timelines, each where one of them won

  • @bryankusoo
    @bryankusoo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That’s what Khu was hinting at the whole time

  • @nickdentoom1173
    @nickdentoom1173 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What if Colress, who also knows about Time Travel stuff, is involved somehow as well.

    • @yogfan1139
      @yogfan1139 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He also did technically pluck alt universe getheis from the RR base to his own timeline using something from his outfit, specifically from his arm and hand.

  • @MissFroggish
    @MissFroggish 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the tera orb in the terrarium is actually a recent addition! briar mentions that shes the one maintaining the orb, and that terastalizing only became available after her visit to kitakami. she uses paldean soil and kitakami crystal waters to induce terastalization within the terrarium, BUT after terapagos, is able to boost said energy with the crystals found in that cave.

  • @xsolar
    @xsolar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Regarding the globe in the Terarium, the game literally tells you how it was built and how it works. Cyrano didn’t make it. Briar did. It’s a mixture of soil from Paldea, water from the Kitakami crystal pool and bits of stellar type crystal from the Area Zero expedition in the DLC

  • @clarknes3111
    @clarknes3111 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We going to talk about the fact that dudes kid is named Thyme, just like a certain two people in Scarlet and Violet.

  • @ontos8914
    @ontos8914 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Black city was probably just built on top of White forest it seems the Black universe it’s just slightly in the future from the White one at least technology wise. So both versions exist in both games

  • @ProfessorDeku-kh7ek
    @ProfessorDeku-kh7ek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What about the plant they tell u about when u first get to the blueberry Academy it’s at the bottom of the ocean and the school is attached to it 🤔

    • @ontos8914
      @ontos8914 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huh

  • @meow-sama3564
    @meow-sama3564 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Blowin my mind friend

  • @shikamaruw97
    @shikamaruw97 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    THYME OMFG

  • @Dr.Dorinphon
    @Dr.Dorinphon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you have streetpass data you can go to the black tower/white tree hollow in the opposite game as well.

  • @josephapsey9965
    @josephapsey9965 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Since Terapogos wasn’t this dragon type you kept speculating it would be how does this affect your big mega theory

  • @TigerSouthpaw
    @TigerSouthpaw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    THYME?!!!! THE TEACHER FROM S/V WAS THERE?!!!

  • @bacd-nn2lg
    @bacd-nn2lg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They also hinted all of future region in Pokemon Black/White games if you talk to certain npc that speak Japanese, English, French, and German. So expect the future generation of pokemon game getting set up in Germany region.

  • @rufioh
    @rufioh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I like your tree of evolution poster

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      awww htnak you so much :D

  • @wafflesoldier7957
    @wafflesoldier7957 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just found your channel if you ever happen to open up your store again i'd love to pick sumn up

  • @silversonic1
    @silversonic1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sun and Moon literally had you hop between the Sun map and the Moon map using your Legendary. Legends: Arceus had people traveling through time and potentially creating offshoot realities. Developers have told us that each version and each save file is essentially a separate universe. And with Fallers being canon, we can say for a certainty that it's entirely possible for artists from a different universe to cross over and give people knowledge from another universe.
    The Indigo Disk is the cement that proves they were doing this all along.

  • @Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan
    @Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Something interesting is that what's specifically shown is specifically the Black Tower and White Treehollow. Those weren't version exclusive because of the key system, and I wonder if that's relevant. Because everyone acts like nothing changes when Black City and the Black Tower replace the White Forest and Treehollow and vice versa.
    Also excellent note about Black and White having hints of past and future. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the reason why SV has that as a focus was to make both the Indigo Disk and gen 5 remakes (which I hope will actually be good if they decide to make them. I'd gladly pay for ports made specifically for the switch for $40 tbh) flow more naturally into each other for those who've played them previously.
    Man I hate being easily pleased nostalgia wise. Makes being a Pokemon fan currently hard to actually critique the Indigo Disk fairly because I finally could bring my original Emboar from over 10 years ago out of Pokemon HOME for the first time in almost 4

  • @timwoods2852
    @timwoods2852 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We get confirmation in Gen 6 in ORAS when the Delta Meteor is coming down that each game is its own time-line and its own dimension.

  • @pjvaz1985
    @pjvaz1985 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm pretty sure white forest and black city exist in the same reality. If I recall correctly their in game descriptions say they just vanish and appear from their spots on the map. You can even access both using the key system in B2W2

  • @jackmorelli5638
    @jackmorelli5638 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The fact that there's so much new art for BW stuff, when they could've used existing stuff, makes it feel extra obvious they're developing SOMETHING Unova beyond this

  • @stormbiskit7271
    @stormbiskit7271 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:02 Thyme? His child, Thyme? ...Is- is this about the professor at the SV Academy? Ryme's sister, Thyme? Is his child ACTUALLY a character in SV?

    • @TheExtras
      @TheExtras 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was about to say no because its Tyme BUT the name in Japanese for Tyme is タイム which is THYME (as in the herb) so I'm sure you're on to something here... but Tyme is about 50 years old so would have to be 30-40 years old in BW

  • @djosmi5083
    @djosmi5083 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The presence of the Nature Preserve in the Canyon of the Terra Dome proves that the structure was already there in BW2, and the fact that you can access it by taking a plane in Mistralton City insinuates that it was outdoors. So the theory of building something on land and then sink it is not that farfetched, even though the Terra Dome is MASSIVE, it could be possible?

  • @fruit3193
    @fruit3193 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cyrano didn’t create the Tera ball thing in the Terarium. That was Briar’s doing. Also, the Paldea academy was who funded Sada/Turo, this is directly stated.

  • @ccarbs9204
    @ccarbs9204 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    imagine blueberry academy is at liberty island

  • @knifekirby
    @knifekirby 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Do you think scarlet and violets separate universes individually house either the black or white universes? Or can they have either?

  • @lukas3102
    @lukas3102 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did anyone notice the similarities with the only Arena in the Orre Region? Underground School with 4 Nature habitats (btw. The same habitats).
    I like to think about Colosseum and XD as the final piece of the Pokémon timeline. And small things like that make me happy 😂
    (Only double battles in the Blueberry academy btw 🤔 and the Orre region is based of the US just as Unova)

  • @thirdiprodigy3579
    @thirdiprodigy3579 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Black & White 2 my favorite games by far! Currently doing my playthrough with a shiny tepig I reset for at full odds :)

  • @WistyFish
    @WistyFish 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Broooooo I didn’t even think about that

  • @lilsnaz6267
    @lilsnaz6267 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can we talk about how unova has the one confirmed time traveler in the series in ingo

  • @aarondrurey1680
    @aarondrurey1680 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where can we watch your playthrough of the indigo disk dlc

  • @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv
    @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:00 - Hold on Thyme!? Isn't that same name as the former Rock type Teacher from Naranja/Uva Academy in Paldea? If that is true then both Thyme and her sister Rhyme are both from Unova. Considering both of their ages, then that must mean that SV is set FAR into the Pokemon timeline. Then again there were a lot other things hinting as such given how old Grimskey, Blue, & Red looked in SM/USUM. This is even further than that. Enough that Draydon has a grandson and Clay has a daughter in their teens.

  • @KingNidoYT
    @KingNidoYT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm curious as to where exactly Blueberry Academy is located, and how close is it to the Abyssal Ruins.

  • @Fr4yDay
    @Fr4yDay 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now I’m hoping Terastalization is present in the BW remakes, and the lore explanation is the player being given the prototype Tera Orb, saying it’s something to test out as an added strength against Team Plasma.

  • @joichigamemode3219
    @joichigamemode3219 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Has anyone actually noticed that the battle music in blueberry acadamy is the music from unova?

  • @zimattack9994
    @zimattack9994 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What about the type gems?

  • @wildstarfish3786
    @wildstarfish3786 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Black city and white forest have always somehow been canonically in the same universe though

  • @jensvanvaerenberg302
    @jensvanvaerenberg302 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe this is a hint for the gen 5 remakes in the next games

  • @madnessarcade7447
    @madnessarcade7447 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be a parallel unova because SV is in a timeline where mega evolution exists and the og games are in one that weren’t
    Even if it’s not the mega timeline it’s A mega timeline

  • @joichigamemode3219
    @joichigamemode3219 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, if we go based on pokelogic, then 3 years ago, scarlet and violet were in development, knowing that there was always a treasure of area zero, terapagos, then its probably safe to assume that they said 10 years ago based on the games year of development, 2019 or 2020, which would technically be 10 years after black and white were released. We can account for the 3 year add on simply by the games actual release date. Its a little hard to do 10 years when you release a game every 3, so theres probably some, 'constructive' creative writting for filling in the blanks. By the time we get remade gen5, im sure theyll forget all about the construction site... but does explain why clays daughter is there. And you cant tell me shes not his daughter. They literally wearing the same jewel

  • @Scarcheeze
    @Scarcheeze 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    GEN 10 WILL BASED ON MULTIVERSE THEME

  • @shodan198
    @shodan198 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'd say pokemon grey

  • @pkmntrainermark8881
    @pkmntrainermark8881 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People of Unova know about alternate timelines because they can access them thriugh the Entralink.

  • @Josh-qt5zi
    @Josh-qt5zi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What it already been broken since the Ultra game and the oras game

  • @Markcrazeer
    @Markcrazeer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i wish they had the balls to set this game 40-50-60 years after black and white, and that our teacher thyme is that guys kid.

  • @Scarcheeze
    @Scarcheeze 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    TERAPAGOS IS VER SMALL I WANT COLOSSAL SIZE TERAPAGOS

  • @kyuremthefrozen8539
    @kyuremthefrozen8539 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what if white tree hollow and black city both exist in the events of blueberry academy

  • @TheRed02151
    @TheRed02151 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You remember when we all thought that Kalos was going to be next door! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHWHQ…::.::Ahahah. Ahhhhhhh. :(

  • @misscaring4318
    @misscaring4318 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im curious, where did you get the idea that SV Insoggo Disk happens 10 years after BW2 from?

    • @ontos8914
      @ontos8914 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Scarlet and Violet came out 11 years after black and white 2

  • @WOLKsite
    @WOLKsite 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting... Perhaps Violet is in the "Black" timeline and Scarlet in the "White" timeline?

  • @Iheartseattle1
    @Iheartseattle1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I noticed that in one of the classrooms in blueberry academy, you can see stars in the windows, but blueberry academy is under water. How can you see stars underwater?!

    • @BirdKeeperToby
      @BirdKeeperToby  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's a projected sky

  • @danteswildlife4411
    @danteswildlife4411 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wait? Did the guy say his child is named Thyme?! Isn’t Thyme the name of one of our teachers in Paldea! Yeah she’s the gym leader Rhyme’s sister!!!

    • @777Roxen
      @777Roxen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Different spelling. The teacher's name is spelled Tyme with no H. Really close though! Makes sense that it's not her. Otherwise Scarlet and Violet would be much longer than ten years after Black and White.

    • @TheExtras
      @TheExtras 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@777Roxen Tyme's name is spelled タイム in Japanese which is actually Thyme so might just be a translation thing... I think it's still referencing the same character.

    • @777Roxen
      @777Roxen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheExtras If they were intended to be the same character I don't think they'd make an oversight like that. Name overlaps aren't really a new thing in Pokemon.
      If we really wanted to be certain we'd have to find this NPC's dialogue in Japanese and see if the child he mentions has their name written out the exact same way as Tyme's in Japanese.

  • @knightzix_01
    @knightzix_01 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This Could be a BROKEN idea What if we have all the gimicks in a game That would be A Metric Tone Of Patches just to keep it balanced lol

  • @kylespevak6781
    @kylespevak6781 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Past/future version, Scarlet and Violet are past/future

  • @gabrielgalloza9441
    @gabrielgalloza9441 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that its just artist visions of the different time lines, so maybe none of these are real

  • @FiveNightsAtFelicias
    @FiveNightsAtFelicias 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro they turned the Natural preserve into the indigo disk

  • @Weeb-nm7ic
    @Weeb-nm7ic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Black/white, black 2/white2 remakes comfirmed

  • @cylland5060
    @cylland5060 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isn't Thyme the math teacher? Is Thyme the man's daughter?

  • @autumneichhorn1672
    @autumneichhorn1672 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    honestly i don’t think pokemon is putting effort into thinking this stuff out, i think we’re just seeing it and building our own lore based on it, while pokemon just wanted to put a black/white nod in the game

  • @owentravis8901
    @owentravis8901 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always assumed pokemon black was connon (player has Reshiram) N has Zekrom simply because Reshiram is the dragon of truth and Zekrom ideals

    • @kretisme
      @kretisme 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not necaseraly as truth can ironicly be false and an ideal can lead to a better future equally truth can be true and an ideal lead astray

    • @owentravis8901
      @owentravis8901 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @kretisme that's a good point, in the sense of the games I always saw it this way as Team plasma and N were fighting for their 'ideal' world of people and pokemon being Separate and N is later confronted with the truth that 1 Getsis was lying to everyone and that people and pokemon can live together in harmony. I also perceive the final fight with N where he sees the players Reshiram transform from the light stone and being defeated as him being confronted with the truth and seeing the world isn't as bad as he thought.
      Though I do see how Getsis was manipulating people with the false Truth like you stated before.
      Also in the sense that cheren and bianca s goals changing as you progress with the story as they are either confronted with the truth of the world over their ideas of becoming champion (cheren) or seeing that they may not be cut out for their original dream but finding a new one (Bianca).

  • @wikiuser92
    @wikiuser92 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aaand this theory fell flat on its face as soon as the DLC came out. You were overthinking it.

  • @SweetHaji
    @SweetHaji 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can anyone please help me?? I can't fly to Blueberry Academy. I can only set it as a destination. Does anyone know if it's possible to fly without the wing icon? I was there once but now I can't get back.

    • @kretisme
      @kretisme 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you have not worked it out yet soon as you arrive you should get a fly spot at the entrance bottom right of the map

    • @SweetHaji
      @SweetHaji 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @kretisme Arrive where? BB Academy? I did arrive there but now I can't go back, the point is that I can only set it as a destination. I didn't even go inside. Just had the first double battle, and that's it. I'm in paldea.

    • @kretisme
      @kretisme 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SweetHaji if you did the first battle you should have the fly spot available from the map press the r button twice three times if not zoomed in at the bottom right of the map should be the entrance fly spot you might need to zoom in as much as possible as the objective way point can overlap the fly spot and make it awkward to select the fly spot you might need to fidle about the cursor a bit

    • @SweetHaji
      @SweetHaji 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @kretisme I've tried what you said. All it's doing is zooming me in and out. I zoomed all the out to see the entire map circle, and the little icon at the bottom right doesn't do anything. I zoomed all the way in, and still nothing, no matter how many times I pressed it😭 Help!

    • @kretisme
      @kretisme 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SweetHaji I had a look around online for you just incase it's a bug but it doesn't seem to be a fare few people seem to be making the same mistake when zoomed out its not the big circle you are looking for it in its the small circle in the bottom right zoom in and move your cursor to the bottom right of the map past the big circle zoomed in it looks like a blue lollipop with a white stick zoomed in you should see the wing icon near the middle

  • @ElizaGWR
    @ElizaGWR 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think its kind of obvious why they both show up. The White Forest was there in both timelines before the Black City replaced it in the Black timeline... its not a difficult thing to parse.

  • @Htjtjtjy
    @Htjtjtjy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pokemon grey?

  • @jvanoudenhove
    @jvanoudenhove 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Look I haven’t played any of these games, I love Pokemon but bro I don’t even have a switch lol. My question is - can someone explain how any of this can be done/happening etc by way of Arceus? I’ve just thought it’s always been crazy that Pokemon decided to make a “GOD” or “creator” Pokémon, because it just stumps me. Terapagos, super old right? Different timelines etc - someone explain Arceus to me then because I feel like I want to just comment or contribute “what about Arceus tho?” To everything now lol

    • @Iwilltouchyoulilbro
      @Iwilltouchyoulilbro 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Arceus is some otherworldly being with several arms, and the sinnoh arceus is one of them. My theory is terapagos is one of his weaker arms, or something related to arceus.

  • @WistyFish
    @WistyFish 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Time travel legends Unova gaaame

  • @kotlolish
    @kotlolish 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funnily enough... I made an ultramegapolis that lived in harmony with Necrozma as a fakemon story idea.
    And it also had a big orb in the middle of the city floating there where "Rainbow Necrozma" would recide as a power source to keep this version of UMP safe from Ultra Beast invasions.
    It also had artifical terrariums and such to allow Ultra Defense Squads train and catch pokemon and also be ready for any situation where there would be ultra beasts!
    Sorry just fun lil things. But remember that in the FUTURE version of Ocuplecid you can travel to the past to meet the ancestor.
    We already know lore wise that pokemon companies have mastered the art of crossing dimensions and alternate timelines.
    This maybe why paradox pokemon can exist regardless... what if every paradox pokemon wasn't from the future or past... but just... the same place in a different reflection of time like Opulecid city?
    And maybe... the "secret scene" is misinterperted.

  • @hollow1279
    @hollow1279 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why do millionaires in the pokemon world love to make private islands

  • @NH-st2uh
    @NH-st2uh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Anyone else disappointed by the DLC? Thought there would be more new Pokemon and we would get another member of the loyal trio

    • @DaFootyChannel
      @DaFootyChannel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      The 4th loyal trio member I think is coming as a mythical event

    • @34autobot
      @34autobot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      SUPER Disappointed about the lack of unsolved mysteries. So much about area zero we don’t understand

    • @yigitafsar1611
      @yigitafsar1611 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      You serious? This was by far the best Pokémon experience in the last decade!

    • @XParasiteOctoling
      @XParasiteOctoling 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@34autobotMaybe the Anime will reveal everything when the time comes (copium)

    • @keeganguyer5237
      @keeganguyer5237 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      So are Walking Wake and Iron Leaves still Event Exclusive? or are they obtainable in Raid Battles that are not limited-time?

  • @lilsnaz6267
    @lilsnaz6267 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can we talk about how unova has the one confirmed time traveler in the series in ingo