Delaware's Move to the FBS is HUGE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Earlier this week, it was announced that the Delaware Blue Hens will be joining the Conference USA and transitioning to the FBS level. While some may think this is not major news, I want to explain why this is a major move by one of the biggest schools in the northeast. This is huge for the Conference USA and Delaware. Let me explain.
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I hope they play Michigan
The battle of the winged helmets
And win
😂
That would be weird to watch on TV with similar colors and helmet
That's was my first thought
Another move that’s geographically off its all about the Benjamin’s
This is a really smart move for Conference USA. Delaware is a small state but the UD campus is only 45 minutes away from Philadelphia and an hour from Baltimore. They have alumni and fans throughout that entire region and south Jersey. I always thought Delaware would be a good fit in the MAC. The MAC should extend offers to NDST, SDST, UNI, and Youngstown St.
I think NDST and SDST are PAC members if the PAC-2 don’t join the MWC.
The MAC would have to make the decision to grow from a midwest bus league to a broader northern G5 conference. NDST and SDST would need UND/USD (maybe the Montana schools?) to accompany them to the MAC because of the travel issues and insufficient TV payouts to offset those travel costs.
Oregon St and Wazzu on the other hand, may wait out in the PAC until the MWC contract ends. If so, they’ll invite MWC schools, the PAC’s TV payouts will be high enough for NDST/SDST without needing other travel partners.
North and South Dakota are never gonna join D1-A it just isn’t economically feasible for them unless they’re getting big money via conference TV rights.
I feel a conference where some of those best big sky conference schools like Idaho Montana and Montana state merging w remaining mountain west like Fresno Boisie etc. and adding the 4 Dakota schools plus wazzu and OSU would be a very exciting mega conference. Always thought some of these conferences should merge like that to compete w the mega conferences like American and sunbelt for example. It’ll never ever happen but it’s fun to hypothesize.
@@ASAPsud Philly is Temple's and Villanova's house
@@lawoflamont15As a Duck… nah.
The reason OSU & WSU haven’t fully embraced the Mountain West is they’re trying to maximize revenue. $3.5 million a year doesn’t cut it, nor does the $5 million Boise State gets (though time will tell if the 2 have a choice). The Dakotas are two of the smallest states. So I guarantee it won’t be direct to the Pac…
…unless the Mountain West agrees to the pro/rel concept. Then they may as well add all the remaining reasonably western FBS and FCS schools that want to go.
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My favorite conference realignment move is what the Sun Belt did.
However, the CUSA adding Delaware was a good move. Can't wait for them to add Missouri State 👀
Is Missouri St moving to FBS?
The Sunbelt will poach Delaware and Missouri State after they play a few seasons of FBS
@austin_l if the SBC poached anyone it would probably be WKU and Liberty (wishful thinking).
@@austin_lI don't think they would go get them because that's way to far
@Jamessmith-xk3fh Deleware isn't too far from Marshall, JMU, or Old Dominion. CUSA is terrible and I imagine UD is going to use it for a stepping stone.
Had no idea this was happening. Hell yes. I love teams moving up to the FBS
I wish Delaware had joined the MAC. Watching them play any of the three Michigan MAC teams would be great. They have to have Delaware vs Michigan meet in football Confusion galore!!!
Delaware is an interesting one, because they can do very well in C-USA but they also would not be out of place in the Sun Belt. They could absolutely get in there, especially now that the Sun Belt is more strictly regional to the east.
The big change that I'm still waiting for at the FBS level is football only conferences. That type of decoupling would really make a lot of sense for C-USA. If they play their cards right, they can still add Some programs in all sports like Delaware, but maybe focus on adding MVFC programs in football only as they currently stand. All of the Dakotas plus Northern Iowa and Missouri State or whatever. Then focus on adding really good mid major Olympic sports where it makes more sense regionally, and kind of handle those conferences separately. I think that's the best way to expand the footprint.
As much as i love the FCS idk why NDSU, SDSU, Montana, and Montana State haven't yet moved to the fbs. I think they would do well in the MW or MAC for NDSU and SDSU. Obviously money is a big issue for transitioning but i think they could do it. I think Chattanooga, William and Mary, Sacramento State, Idaho, other teams in MVC (SIU, ND, SD), and a FCS team from Texas.
Economics is the big one. Those schools are pretty far from other G5 schools and the money isn’t there to justify a move.
Speaking as a student at NDSU i main reason we haven't moved up is one our stadium is to small and two we don't have the money to move up to the next level.
NDSU is a NCAA D1 Basketball Program whose Men's and Women's Teams are part of the Basketball only Missouri Valley Conference. They've both appeared quite often in The NCAA Tournament.🤔🏀B.W.
Stadium size no longer a criteria because they shifted to Title IX "morality" to slow/defer/thwart move ups.
They would do well, and the Mountain west would be a great fit for them-- especially if the MW goes to relegation
I would love to see cusa and Sunbelt add teams and also go to relegation
It would incentivize winning while also giving you a chance to take a step back and rebuild if needed
And with the looks of things between big 10 and sec, it is only a matter of time until there is:
D1 premier (basically p5 schools)
D1 bowl (non p5)
D1 fcs
I think having amchanlions at each level would be great and allowing for fluidity between the different levels would keep a school from having a decade of irrelevance (ie Kansas thru the 2010s or Akron thru history etc)
Good move by the C-USA, but I really hope that they don’t lose focus on their southern footprint. Delaware is on the fringes but could maybe develop a regional rival with a school like Liberty in Virginia. But if the C-USA keeps going north and goes for UMass or UConn, I’m afraid they’ll just fall apart all over again. They need to stay in the south and go for schools like William and Mary, North Carolina A and T State, Tennessee State, Steven F. Austin, Missouri Sate, or Central Arkansas. Adding schools like these could help to build regional rivalries and maintain the conference in the future.
Miami should be next with 3 Hof coaches (Howard, Jimmy and Erickson)
I wish the Hens all the best in the FBS.
Wow.Too many group of five teams already.The income differences between major and minor conferences is huge.
Delaware has a bigger athletics budget than a lot of the schools in the G5
Too many teams in FBS, especially considering that only a handful of teams in FBS have any real opportunity to be national champions.
EVERYONE KNOWS THAT!!! I DON'T think THAT is the motivation behind these upgrades. It is "Window Dressing"....and if you don't keep your "windows" looking good and remodeled...NOBODY is stopping by to "look"......Sports is NOT about winning games and championships for universities......SPORTS serves a purpose to PROMOTE the university!!! The REAL MONEY is made in the "backroom".
Montana State
Stephen F Austin needs to jump up too
Hopefully UMASS & UCONN join C-USA too
Uconn is more interested in the ACC.
@@nateg4582 as long as all the independents end up in conferences I support it
Whoops... UMass to the MAC..
I hope they change their helmets lol
College football needs promotion/relegation
Get Umass and UConn and Stephen F Austin in Conference USA.
UConn is more fit for the ACC.
Whoops... UMass to the MAC..
Not to mention that this would be the first FBS program in the state of Delaware, that has to be huge for the University
Sleepy Joe can shave his legs and be a Clucking Hen cheerleader....
While trump opts out due to his bone spurs and fear of contact with diverse populations.@@garyvinson9258
Del state might be a while
JMU Alum here, I am excited to hear they're moving up. We always had a great rivalry with them, and hopefully we can get it started again.
Agreed man. I miss the UD JME rivalry!
hopefully Delaware does good enough to get invited to the AAC with JMU
Kinda opens the door for CUSA to add UMass which would hopefully start a natural rivalry and actually help progress that program a little bit
Good point. UMass just isn’t talented enough to make it without a conference
Yea Umass a prime example of how this can go terribly wrong if you’re not ready for the leap!
@@camjohnson5517 they were in a couple conferences and it went terribly wrong and now they are in football purgatory..ask Umass fans if they had to do it all over again would they??? Careful what you wish for!! No well in Hell Delaware fans would put up with a 20-110 record that Umass has put up since moving up! I pray this isn’t our outcome!
I had heard somewhere that UMass wouldn't want to join a conference because as an independent they can make a lot of money for the school just by taking Ls for other schools.
@@AndoverxI heard that you're a lying troll.
As a Delawarean this makes us ALL HAPPY & PROUD We know it's gonna be a tough road but glad to be part of the Big Leagues
Speak for yourself as a 25 year ticket holder it’s the dumbest move ever!
@@e.c.mracing7478the FCS is not the same as it used to be, it’s dying and not bringing in the money it used too
@@e.c.mracing7478🙄
@@x-90 AGREED!! The Colonial used to have a power conference. Now ALL the "power" programs are either in the Sun Belt or C-USA. I think the only decent or historically decent team left is Villanova....which had looked into upgrading to FBS years ago when the Big East was getting raided. The issue back then was that the National Corrupt Athletic Association (NCAA) required FBS teams to maintain a minimum rolling two-year average of attendance of 16,00 ...which was later dropped. So, schools like SMU could even participate in FBS. 🤣
I haven’t liked most moves in this wave of conference realignment, but I do like Army joining the AAC… it only feels right to have Army and Navy in the same conference
I'd just like to say I predicted this a month ago (it was the most obvious prediction of all time and everyone predicted it)
C-USA seems to be taking a FCS to FBS approach, also surprising its just then solo, most conferences want an even amount of members, C-USA just wants members
@@MirasomeRailfan They aren't finished with expanding and taking on more upgrade members.....it's a building process. C-USA has ALWAYS been a "stepping-stone" and has always been in a "building process". Just like they feed the American which feeds the Big 12 and ACC, which feeds the B1G and SEC, next. BIG FISH eat smaller fish eat tiny fish.
I predict ten years from now Delaware will be in the AAC
That would be great you create a natural rivalry with temple that could become crazy play it at a neutral site like subraru park
They're heading to C-USA in 2025.
@@nateg4582C-USA is a stepping stone
that would be quite the jump for UD
@@nateg45822025 isn't 10 years from now.
Im hoping Idaho moves back to the fbs, they would probably find even more success (from a money and exposure standpoint) then they do now after a few years
I think it’s hard because I don’t think it makes sense unless it’s the Mountain West. I think it’s good their back in the Big Sky for regional rivalry purposes and on-field success. The program is going in the right trajectory and if they were to jump back to the FBS I think it could hurt them
Bake those potatoes!
App state, circa 2014
@@EmbracetheGrind I think it would help but only if Jason Eck stayed our head coach and we continued to attract great players like Gevani McCoy and Hayden Hatten. If Eck stayed, we could probably (because of the new scholarships and exposure) we could probably start seeing bowl games in around 2-5 years, also considering we blew out Nevada and could probably go around 6-6 in out first year (give or take a few wins/losses)
You guys beat a team led by Paul Petrino... not really a flex@@jdabomb8064
If the PAC 2 can raid the MWC in 2 years they will
Now only time for NDSU. SDSU, Montana, and Montana state to move up....all of the powerhouses of FCS are slowly leveling up so should they..
and idaho (im delusional but have hope)
Idaho still need to prove themselves like beating more P5 schools or FBS schools, have most winning record in past decade, and showing they can contend like App state, JMU, Jacksonville, Boise state, and etc have been. I always looking forward to lower schools making their mark in the highest division but they still have long way to go. @@jamesshively
@@jamesshivelyI think we could definitely see a future where half of the Mountain West teams(probably San Diego St, Fresno, Boise, Air Force, CSU, UNLV) leave to start a new conference with Oregon State and Washington State and the remaining Mountain west schools invite schools like NDST, SDST, Montana and Idaho to replace them.
I think they were just fed up with most of their better players transferring out after one or two good seasons and going to FBS schools
How will that change in FBS? NIL, and free transfer rules makes it even worse situaiton
@@matthewwaters9343 All that stuff still exists in FCS. The fact of the matter is that they have an FBS level program, and we know this because a lot of their players end up transferring to FBS schools. If you're recruiting FBS level talent and investing FBS level money, you may as well move up to FBS to give your players another reason to stay with the program.
My hope is for one more school to allow for divisions.
"West" division: NMSU, UTEP, SHSU, LA Tech, FIU, Tarleton/Jackson St/Missouri St/SIU/etc.
East division: JSU, KSU, MTSU, WKU, Liberty, Delaware
It kinda sucks for the west, and at least one eastern school would have to be stuck in the west, but it's still loads better than it looks right now.
Divisions aren't really a thing anymore at the FBS level. I think the SEC, Sun Belt and MAC are the only conferences that are still going to have divisions in this upcoming season. And it's only a matter of time before those conferences get rid of them too.
As someone who lives 2 minutes away from the collage, I’m so happy to see them succeed
Also, go apps. Joe Flacco had nothing for the mountaineers
Flacco threw for over 300 yards in that game. The problem was the running game couldn't get going.
Now needing a 12th team I say its probably Jackson State, this a predominately southern conference but is missing a Mississippi team and with Jackson State growing as a widely known school (for all sports) i say its a matter of time before they give this HBCU an opportunity
Um, the name of the former Michigan coach, Fritz CRISLER, is pronounced exactly the same as the Chrysler auto brand. It's not pronounced "criss-ler." The Michigan basketball team plays in the campus arena named after him, the Crisler Center.
Go Blue Hens!
As a Kennesaw State alum, this is a good add. However I'm getting concerned that CUSA hasn't learned their mistake from the last round of realignment. For a conference like CUSA fan engagement is huge for success, but it becomes harder to create if a conference is too spread out geographically.
Heres to hoping they add Tarleton State as the 12th member to create more in-state rivalries.
Nah Missouri state
I'm thinking Stephen F Austin more, rivalry with Sam Houston State, good basketball, decent football
I’m a student at SFA. Basketball and piney woods a is the only real incentive. The only fault is homer Bryce stadium is very outdated.
Hey I go to Kennesaw State👍🏾
hooty hoo
Poor c-usa, my second favorite conference of all time behind the SEC
Why??? C-USA ruined college football, when they were created that’s when things started to go downhill cause they threw geography out the window and focused only on TV money
Joe Flacco went to Delaware, he’s one of the few players who has success coming from a small school, especially from FCS. He was picked at 18th overall and he’s one of only 23 players from an FCS school to be a first round NFL draft pick
Montana Montana state ndsu sdsu better consider moving soon or be left behind all they’re GOOD competition is leaving
Why does everyone talk in this cadence lmao
Rich Gannon
Congrats to Delaware for moving to the C-USA in 2025
Thanks, Ohio State fan.
Kudos to Delaware but the best move has been Army to American; it makes the Army-Navy game even bigger!
do you think Missouri Valley is worthy of being promoted?
Sad to see the Hens in the cooking pot of FBS.....emphasis on the BS.
UConn or umass next to join cusa?
Uconn would have to leave the Big East for that which ain’t happening. Umass maybe
Umass most likely
@@ncaa4life611is it a dealbreaker for cusa they won’t be a full member I know that’s a reason UConn left the American
@@ncaa4life611I think uconn would possibly prefer the ACC over C-USA.
Whoops... UMass to the MAC..
Hope they play Ole Miss
Please play Michigan
I love fake Michigan ❤️
I went to few UD games vs Villanova, Temple & West Chester during the Tubby years.
The SBC East is all Mid-Atlantic schools, but there is only 1 in CUSA; Liberty.
Are they going to make their non-revenue Olympic sports travel as far as El Paso and Las Cruses?
Yshehewh
Pronounced New -Ark. not like Newark, NJ. One third of the students probably come from NJ. Nice stadium too.
Maybe the Beavers can schedule them, if they're lucky
So is the CAA a fbs pipeline now?
Has been for many years now....Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Appalachian State, James Madison, Old Dominion, Liberty, East Carolina, Coastal Carolina, UMass....next will probably be Villanova, which considered it years ago.
It’s a d2 school going fbs West Georgia university
Would be crazy if they ever play Michigan!
I think umass mcneese st Northern Colorado and Princeton
Love to see the financials. How much money are they spending on athletics instead of academics? If the $85 million to scholarly pursuits what could be done? Here in Clarksville, TN administrators are saying the same things.
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EVERYONE KNOWS THAT!!! I DON'T think THAT is the motivation behind these upgrades. It is "Window Dressing"....and if you don't keep your "windows" looking good and remodeled...NOBODY is stopping by to "look"......Sports is NOT about winning games and championships for universities......SPORTS serves a purpose to PROMOTE the university!!! The REAL MONEY is made in the "backroom".
Those unis are tough
All these teams moving up, no one moving down….you’re watering down the top talent pool
Really think what you said this comment sound stupid no Disrespect! Stop letting the media get in Your Head Think For Yourself God bless change and repent in Jesus name Amen 🙏👏✝️
@@Tyreseneilli lmao. When I played there was 107 FBS schools. There are over 130 now. It’s called law of probability. The pool of schools to pick from is larger for the athletes but the pool of athletes did not become larger. Like I said…the talent pool is now watered down because you 130 schools that can give out 85 scholarships vs 107 schools 25 years ago. What does that do? It waters down the rosters of the middle and lower tier FBS schools…the top schools are still loaded. Now you have schools at the bottom that are spending more money and driving up budgets to essentially get the same type of athletes they would get before moving up to FBS.
@@Tyreseneilli by your logic, splitting a million dollars 3 ways vs 30 ways is the same and if anyone tells you different it’s because the “media got in their head”
@@floydturner2957 Totally Disagree it's about The mind set All d1 Athlete's not Great it's because 247 Sport's it's About Teamwork, stop being brain wash by people! You know it's plenty of talent off the streets that Better than guy's everywhere if you compare soccer they play around the world even against team's you never heard Of
@@floydturner2957 There's no certain Type Of Group Of Talent NFL is less talented because team's pick QB's that ain't Gonna do nothing for their Team! And if it had More Team's you can find Better Talent Stop being brain wash
This decision was solely about money. The reality is a large % of long-time fans dont like the move up. Delaware will struggle for many years to win 6 games to qualify for a bowl game.
I disagree. We'll see how it goes. They should be pretty competitive in men's basketball from the start.
@jeffjames5769 In the Loser or one of the weakest conferences in the Country, they will still struggle to win 6 games 1st 3 years. It's was solely about money
@@christophercarlton1406they should never move up to the fbs school
I would love to see sac state make the same move
Is Sac still operating a bleacher feature with port-a-potties instead of real restrooms?
Sac State needs to make some real investments. I’m not sure the proposal to move basketball out of The Nest (capacity 1,012) and into a modified student rec center is really that.
Didnt students resoundingly shoot down tuition/fee hikes to make that happen?
@@tomgriffith1057 Many years ago, students approved that rec center and a new basketball arena, but the admin / AD diverted arena funds to a football practice area or something like that. There may have been subsequent disapprovals. And I might be spoiled enough because my alma mater has almost every project privately funded. The school I started at also found a way not to tap student funds for the new arena in the old building, but football is complicated. I know, the Cal State system doesn’t want to be bothered.
It’s not
7 minutes spent on 100 years of history and 90 seconds spent on the move and like 5 seconds on why the move is huge… script coulda used a once over
Delaware is making a HUGE mistake going to the FBS, and especially, Conference USA (or, as I usually call them, Conference UNT).
Maybe they can finally beat Villanova in the battle of the blue
Delaware was losing to Lafayette College 28-7 after the first quarter of the first round of the FCS playoffs. They won, but only because Lafayette's quarterback went out in the third quarter with an injury.
Delaware started a freshman and third string QB in that game
Perhaps Delaware should be successful consistently in FCS before even thinking about moving "up" to FBS level!
Delaware?
My favorite realignments are Texas and Oklahoma into the SEC. Also I like Oregon, USC, and UCLA added to beef up the Big 10.
The realignments I don’t understand is a couple of pac 12 schools put into the ACC. Makes zero geographical sense. I’d rather they put Rutgers into the ACC because Rutgers just can’t keep up with the BIG 10.
You act like the B1G is geographically reasonable.
Maryland plays a conference game at Oregon next year. I’d rather watch my Ducks play Oregon State. I know having Ohio State here will be sweet, but I question whether the cost of all that is truly worth it.
If we’re really headed to superconferences, we’d be better off with a promotion/relegation model that also allows for “cup games” (aka rivalry games) to be played on the side.
HEY!!! STOP making fun of Big Ten Powerhouse Rutgers!!! (aka BTPR) 🤣 Everyone needs a "practice" game to pad their win column...the SEC makes sure they get 4 of them every year with FCS schools for OOC games!
I'm biased about UD's prospects in the C-USA, but I think they'll rise to the occasion after they get their feet wet. They've got PA & NJ to recruit from as a FBS team. They should get some very good recruits for players who want to stay closer to home.
Smart, get away from losing to North Dakota St in the playoffs
The thing is Delaware football has zero fans. No current students or recent alumni actually care about the sports at the school.
UD has a good football fanbase, one of the best in FCS. I don't know what you're talking about. They have to pay 5 million to move up to FBS. That should tell you something. Who is your team--Duke?