12 team structure go back to the BCS (use automatic qualifiers): only 12 bowls (new years six plus six) ^^^the smaller schools get the other tv spots (post season) ^^^ separate the P5 from G5 everyone plays 8 con /4 non con games everyone plays block schedule system in con (3 cross div games per yr, then the other 3 the next ) you get no more than 1 sub division (G5 or lower) game per yr and it must be regional freshmen cant: transfer or get nil deals( i mean individual sponsorships) all transfers (except grad) must sit out 1 yr coaches salaries are capped and payed from the same pool (ex: $50 mil per school) human selection committee becomes NCAA football only sub-committee (voted for by the HCs and ADs) revive BIG EAST (for the most part) SEC: Bama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, MS, Ark / UF, UGA, SC, UK, TN, Vandy ACC: FSU, MIA, GT, Mem, Hou, merge LTech and uL(cajuns) / Clem, NC, Duke, NC State, UVA, VTech BIG10: OSU, uM, MSU, ND, Indy, Pur / NW, ill, WI, Minn, iowa, isu BIG12: UT, OU, OkSU, TAMU, TCU, Bay / Mizz, Kan, K State, Ttech, Co, Neb BIG EAST: uCONN, BC, Syr, PSU, Temple, PITT / Rut, Mary, Lou, WV, Wake, Cincy PAC12: UW, WSU, UO, O State, Cal, Stan / USC, UCLA, AZ, ASU, Utah, Boise (or Hawaii) no independents. all other schools drop to form a new division. MEAC, SWAC, and IVY move up to join them
ACC = American Coast Conference :D Problem solved. This would never fly, like taking Texas market out of the SEC bc they're all greeeedy ;-) Why isn't Virginia Tech back in the Big East? Why isn't UConn back in the Big East?
12 team structure go back to the BCS (use automatic qualifiers): only 12 bowls (new years six plus six) ^^^the smaller schools get the other tv spots (post season) ^^^ separate the P5 from G5 everyone plays 8 con /4 non con games everyone plays block schedule system in con (3 cross div games per yr, then the other 3 the next ) you get no more than 1 sub division (G5 or lower) game per yr and it must be regional freshmen cant: transfer or get nil deals( i mean individual sponsorships) all transfers (except grad) must sit out 1 yr coaches salaries are capped and payed from the same pool (ex: $50 mil per school) human selection committee becomes NCAA football only sub-committee (voted for by the HCs and ADs) revive BIG EAST (for the most part) SEC: Bama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, MS, Ark / UF, UGA, SC, UK, TN, Vandy ACC: FSU, MIA, GT, Mem, Hou, merge LTech and uL(cajuns) / Clem, NC, Duke, NC State, UVA, VTech BIG10: OSU, uM, MSU, ND, Indy, Pur / NW, ill, WI, Minn, iowa, isu BIG12: UT, OU, OkSU, TAMU, TCU, Bay / Mizz, Kan, K State, Ttech, Co, Neb BIG EAST: uCONN, BC, Syr, PSU, Temple, PITT / Rut, Mary, Lou, WV, Wake, Cincy PAC12: UW, WSU, UO, O State, Cal, Stan / USC, UCLA, AZ, ASU, Utah, Boise (or Hawaii) no independents. all other schools drop to form a new division. MEAC, SWAC, and IVY move up to join them
Horseshit, he has been against the playoffs since the jump in favor of useless bowl games...nobody cares how many mineke car bowls you've won, hell noone cares about the NY6 bowls...NC or bust
I like his idea of removing Vandy and and NW, but a better format would have them form an Academically exclusive conference. The following is a Power 4 and 1 Scholar's conferences: Scholar’s Conference Georgia Tech Tulane Duke Wake Forest Vanderbilt Northwestern Boston College Uconn UCF USF Army Navy
SEC Alabama Auburn Georgia Florida Clemson South Carolina FSU Miami Tennessee Kentucky Louisville Memphis Ole Miss Miss State NC State North Carolina
SWC Texas LSU Oklahoma Oklahoma St. Texas A&M Texas Tech Missouri Arkansas Kansas State Kansas TCU Baylor SMU Houston Arizona Arizona State
Big North Ohio State Michigan Penn State Michigan State Notre Dame Purdue West Virginia Virginia Tech Pitt Cincinnati Indiana Illinois Maryland Virginia Syracuse Rutgers
Big West USC UCLA Oregon Washington Washington St. Oregon State Stanford Cal Nebraska Colorado Wisconsin Minnesota Iowa State Iowa Utah Boise State or BYU
12 team structure go back to the BCS (use automatic qualifiers): only 12 bowls (new years six plus six) ^^^the smaller schools get the other tv spots (post season) ^^^ separate the P5 from G5 everyone plays 8 con /4 non con games everyone plays block schedule system in con (3 cross div games per yr, then the other 3 the next ) you get no more than 1 sub division (G5 or lower) game per yr and it must be regional freshmen cant: transfer or get nil deals( i mean individual sponsorships) all transfers (except grad) must sit out 1 yr coaches salaries are capped and payed from the same pool (ex: $50 mil per school) human selection committee becomes NCAA football only sub-committee (voted for by the HCs and ADs) revive BIG EAST (for the most part) SEC: Bama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, MS, Ark / UF, UGA, SC, UK, TN, Vandy ACC: FSU, MIA, GT, Mem, Hou, merge LTech and uL(cajuns) / Clem, NC, Duke, NC State, UVA, VTech BIG10: OSU, uM, MSU, ND, Indy, Pur / NW, ill, WI, Minn, iowa, isu BIG12: UT, OU, OkSU, TAMU, TCU, Bay / Mizz, Kan, K State, Ttech, Co, Neb BIG EAST: uCONN, BC, Syr, PSU, Temple, PITT / Rut, Mary, Lou, WV, Wake, Cincy PAC12: UW, WSU, UO, O State, Cal, Stan / USC, UCLA, AZ, ASU, Utah, Boise (or Hawaii) no independents. all other schools drop to form a new division. MEAC, SWAC, and IVY move up to join them
Wouldn’t mind those conferences structured like that for sure. If we are going to have a playoff, at least have all of them in bowl games. I’m not sure I’m going to like this home field advantage crap. Too much like the NFL and no respect for the traditions of the sport we all grew up loving.
It will be really fun if you can import the old logos and they show up on the jerseys. The Southwest Conference logo? That goofy 90's Big West logo? A man can dream...
OU fan here. I think I speak for all of us when I say that if we're bringing back both the SWC and the Big 8 we would rather be in the Big 8 and keep our historic rivalries and just play Texas in a midseason out of conference game. That being said if I were in charge of realignment I would resurrect the original Big 12 (1996-2010) instead.
I miss the feel of the old Big 12. It was just a blast back in the day watching all the different conference. The games had a different look, feel, style of play unique to each conference.
Of course OU would prefer that, because the old SWC is hot garbage outside of Texas/A&M. Texas would prefer that too. That's why the Big 12 happened. 😉
12 team structure go back to the BCS (use automatic qualifiers): only 12 bowls (new years six plus six) ^^^the smaller schools get the other tv spots (post season) ^^^ separate the P5 from G5 everyone plays 8 con /4 non con games everyone plays block schedule system in con (3 cross div games per yr, then the other 3 the next ) you get no more than 1 sub division (G5 or lower) game per yr and it must be regional freshmen cant: transfer or get nil deals( i mean individual sponsorships) all transfers (except grad) must sit out 1 yr coaches salaries are capped and payed from the same pool (ex: $50 mil per school) human selection committee gets swapped out for a czar/commissioner (voted for by the HCs and ADs) revive BIG EAST (for the most part) SEC: Bama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, MS, Ark / UF, UGA, SC, UK, TN, Vandy ACC: FSU, MIA, GT, Mem, Hou, merge LTech and uL(cajuns) / Clem, NC, Duke, NC State, UVA, VTech BIG10: OSU, uM, MSU, ND, Indy, Pur / NW, ill, WI, Minn, iowa, isu BIG12: UT, OU, OkSU, TAMU, TCU, Bay / Mizz, Kan, K State, Ttech, Co, Neb BIG EAST: uCONN, BC, Syr, PSU, Temple, PITT / Rut, Mary, Lou, WV, Wake, Cincy PAC12: UW, WSU, UO, O State, Cal, Stan / USC, UCLA, AZ, ASU, Utah, Boise (or Hawaii) no independents. all other schools drop to form a new division. MEAC, SWAC, and IVY move up to join them
One of my favorite segments you’ve ever done. There is an alternate reality where this is our CFB and it’s just upsetting that instead of this, we are getting these mega conferences where rivalries and regionality now mean nothing.
BYU and Utah need to be in the same conference so they can have their rivalry every year, it's one of the most under-appreciated rivalries in the sport
What’s cool about this is they can have a protected rivalry. Utah being in the Big 8 means they only have 7 conference games, need 5 more games to fill and one of them can be BYU every year, another could be Utah State. Still have 3 more cupcake teams they can add to the schedule if they wanted. Kind of ideal for them honestly In addition, BYU is independent so they can definitely schedule this one game every single year
12 team structure go back to the BCS (use automatic qualifiers): only 12 bowls (new years six plus six) ^^^the smaller schools get the other tv spots (post season) ^^^ separate the P5 from G5 everyone plays 8 con /4 non con games everyone plays block schedule system in con (3 cross div games per yr, then the other 3 the next ) you get no more than 1 sub division (G5 or lower) game per yr and it must be regional freshmen cant: transfer or get nil deals( i mean individual sponsorships) all transfers (except grad) must sit out 1 yr coaches salaries are capped and payed from the same pool (ex: $50 mil per school) human selection committee is canned for a D1 FBS czar (voted for by the HCs and ADs) revive BIG EAST (for the most part) SEC: Bama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, MS, Ark / UF, UGA, SC, UK, TN, Vandy ACC: FSU, MIA, GT, Mem, Hou, merge LTech and uL(cajuns) / Clem, NC, Duke, NC State, UVA, VTech BIG10: OSU, uM, MSU, ND, Indy, Pur / NW, ill, WI, Minn, iowa, isu BIG12: UT, OU, OkSU, TAMU, TCU, Bay / Mizz, Kan, K State, Ttech, Co, Neb BIG EAST: uCONN, BC, Syr, PSU, Temple, PITT / Rut, Mary, Lou, WV, Wake, Cincy PAC12: UW, WSU, UO, O State, Cal, Stan / USC, UCLA, AZ, ASU, Utah, Boise (or Hawaii) no independents. all other schools drop to form a new division. MEAC, SWAC, and IVY move up to join them
@@joshfisher1299 ND is in the midwest and rivals with uM, while also pairing with Indy and Purdue. PSU pairs with Temple and PITT. a major focus of my realignment is to preserve regionalism, to keep the major powers spread out and to maintain/restore rivalries. each team gets 4 non con games to do whatever they want (almost). PSU can maintain it's new found rivalry w/ OSU as an annual non con game
@@joshfisher1299 . . . and you cant just focus on the big brands; you have to give the lower brands a chance to capitalize on winning seasons. there's a reason teams like cincy, rutgers, uconn, memphis, and houston only show up like once every 5-10 years, the conferences are unbalanced. they need to have the same conference structure and scheduling rules. this addresses: in conference strength of schedule, fan and student travel, rivalries, teams purposely scheduling cupcakes, and forces more teams to play quality opponents more often in general (all of which equals fewer dips in revenue per game for the greedy pigs and better product for viewers)
@dlpaul345 Like I said, PSU would leave this scenario. Also, PSU and ND at one point were also considered rivals. If you are going to force everyone into a conference and not have independents, then ND with OSU and UM will get us into the same situation we're in now. The biggest brands need to be split out amongst conferences relatively evenly.
Had the big 8 never expanded or broken up fine. But these are the big 12 north teams which was the weakest part of the big 12. As a Mizzou fan this would be miserable
@@Drollpanther the Big8 was one of the if not the perenial conference of that time period, they were also the first conference to have 4 teams with 10+ wins in a season
Almost, there’s some classic teams that get left out, and in this concept, otherwise weve would have just seen 180 schools just have their football programs shut down for no reason
@@unc0mm0n2 not true but okay 😭. What about basketball? Travel times for basketball is gonna go crazy under these conferences... March Madness gets crazy viewership, and the College World Series gets decent viewership too
@@calebshreve16 basketball will be fine. Baseball is basically one conference that matters. That's like saying wrestling will be terrible travel for the AAC. If those sports made so much money why don't they make any money and have awful viewership. Two sports matter and the decisions should reflect what is best for those two sports (with a major emphasis on football).
The amount of people that don't care for the G5 in ANY manner and think they shouldn't even be in the CFP is INSANE. Liberty played an all G5, no FCS, schedule and went 13-0 with a C-USA Championship, and people acted like Liberty played half of their schedule against high school, JuCo, and NAIA schools. This dude is just feeding into that thought process by dismissing the G5 to such an extent.
@@chrissao_502I mean we have the most recent examples of Appalachian state beating A&M in 2022 and niu beating Notre dame this year. G5 puts out great football and great nfl prospects every year
@@chrissao_502yeah and then liberty goes loses to 1 win Kennesaw State which is the little random school down the street from me that I didn’t even know had a football team.
I have always said that a team in one conference should play every other team in their own conference every year. It is absurd that these big teams are playing the FCS opponents some weeks and not someone else in their own conference. Heck, in basketball, teams typically play each other twice. I understand the safety concerns of too many games, but smaller conference sizes can ensure that teams don't play too many games. Thank you for stating that!
Exceptional job. I would go for this in a heartbeat. Interest would be created by the regional rivalries. Furthermore a playoff featuring conference champions, would also create interest and regional pride. Which "virtue is more emotionally important to people, "greed" or "pride"? Ultimately "pride" is more important to people who will, in the long run, spend more money on the sport. Following college sports is an emotional experience and greed is a shallow emotion.
@@michaelchirichella2380if there is a scenario where the ACC stays afloat and rebuilds, I can see Memphis being invited, along with Oregon St & Wash St. (might as well make a Western pod, unless the PAC rebuilds also, as they say they intend to). Memphis is a rising program.
I think I would love to see this, but you have to have OU in the big 8 and move Utah and BYU into the same conference. OU and Texas would still play every year like they did pre-big 12 days.
They did have their glory days while in the SWC. They are more of a mid level team, and conference realignment is making it almost impossible for these mid level teams to rise up and have a good season with a chance at a championship. There is no room to breathe in college football anymore.
Just do what Chip Kelly said to do and have all Power conference and possibly even group conference share a single TV contract. Introduce some sort of revenue sharing model that still rewards the bigger schools and school success but still keeps the other schools competative.
@@tmcobb04 I think you could create a model where the pie is broken up by a formula consisting of: 1) Base, equally divided to all teams 2) % based on viewership + attendance/game 3) % based on weekly rankings (combination of current polls + AI, or NET-style) Post season payouts based on invites & performance/wins. And I think the PARTICIPATING athletes should get a huge amount of the post-season payouts. It would incentivize them to not sit out. (Give equal amounts to those who are out due to injury, but if you CHOOSE to not play, then… no soup for you.)
@@insertcolorherehawk3761 You could go that route, but if I were in charge the the CFP wouldn’t be a separate entity. It would simply be a part of college football like everything else. All the money made by the CFP would be divided up to the teams that made it with a bonus depending on how far you make it. You could even find a way to divide up money made to other schools on the conferences based on how each conference performs in the playoff.
This made me realize how much I miss the original PAC 10. I always felt like the conference started to fall off when they added Utah and Colorado and became the pac 12.
To be honest if they were going to bring in Utah they should have brought BYU in with them. I don't care how pissy Stanford or California will get. Or they could have brought in Nevada and UNLV to take advantage of the Las Vegas market.
As a spokesman of the West Virginia fan conglomerate, I approve of these conferences, however I believe in the pit of my being that Mimi and Virginia Tech belong in the big east, I have spoken.
Put the Big East dream together: Penn State, Pitt, WVU, Syracuse, BC, Rutgers, Miami, VT, Louisville, UConn. Invite back Nova, G-town, Seton Hall, Providence, for B-ball. The BB tournament at MSG would be insane.
This is the best conference realignment I have seen the only thing I would do differently is put Northwestern back in the Big Ten and remove South Florida from the Big East and put in Penn State. I'm an old guy and seeing Penn State in the Big Ten and no longer playing Pitt, Syracuse, and West Virginia is something I still can't get my head around.
Utah doesn’t have history with any of the Big 8 teams other than Colorado and is both geographically and culturally farther from the Big8 teams than the PAC teams.
Pretty good, but I would move Virginia and Va Tech to the Big East and change USF and UCF to ACC. Otherwise it's over 1300 miles from Boston College to South Florida.
Love the idea. Needs tweaking. 7 conferences still hurts your potential playoffs. The problem this year is a team that won there conference was left out. 7 conferences still leaves a debate open for whose in and whose out. 8 conferences is perfect for 8 team playoffs. Win your conference make the playoffs. Simple. No arguing over who got in and who didn't. You don't win your conference your OUT. Plus 8 teams is the right number of teams for a playoff. Any more then that waters down the product. Especially with 8 conferences. Your playoffs consist of the top 8 teams that won their conference and are viying for the College Football Championship. Now how that broken up is open for debate but that's the fix.
Makes sense for the most part. Each conference, including the "Big 8" should be 10 teams, play 9 conference games plus one cupcake and two from the other major conferences. The problem is the SEC and ESPN who won't relinquish any control and don't realize they are killing the goose that laid the golden egg.
This is way too logical. All conference champions would automatically get invitation to play off. The remaining spots are given to teams according to ranking. 16 team playoff just the rest of CFB divisions do.
He saying there should only be 8 spots in the college football playoff an since in his world there are 7 conferences they get auto bids an then 1 school from a group of 5 would get the last spot. then you have your 8 team playoff that way. There expanding the playoff to 16 teams an i dont like it cause they changing up the rules of the game to were who ever wins the conference gets in the tournament even tho they shouldnt have gotten there. I LOVE the way josh has his college football playoff landscape an I Think thats what should happen!
I think Northwestern would drop football if it was forced out of the Big Ten. It would be too hard and expensive to build a schedule even if they played ND, Stanford, Duke, and Illinois every year. How do you find 8 other opponents without having a pseudo-Big Ten schedule?
I like his idea of removing Vandy and and NW, but a better format would have them form an Academically exclusive conference. The following is a Power 4 and 1 Scholar's conferences: Scholar’s Conference Georgia Tech Tulane Duke Wake Forest Vanderbilt Northwestern Boston College Uconn UCF USF Army Navy
SEC Alabama Auburn Georgia Florida Clemson South Carolina FSU Miami Tennessee Kentucky Louisville Memphis Ole Miss Miss State NC State North Carolina
SWC Texas LSU Oklahoma Oklahoma St. Texas A&M Texas Tech Missouri Arkansas Kansas State Kansas TCU Baylor SMU Houston Arizona Arizona State
Big North Ohio State Michigan Penn State Michigan State Notre Dame Purdue West Virginia Virginia Tech Pitt Cincinnati Indiana Illinois Maryland Virginia Syracuse Rutgers
Big West USC UCLA Oregon Washington Washington St. Oregon State Stanford Cal Nebraska Colorado Wisconsin Minnesota Iowa State Iowa Utah Boise State or BYU
This is brilliant. As a guy who played ncaa football, I use to love rearranging the conferences. However, the big 8, big east, and southwest conference where not available. I hope the new college football game will have the old conferences available.
I don’t play video games, but I understand how highly anticipated this game release is, and how highly-played it is. It would be nice if the powers that be would look at what the fans are creating as their own fantasy scenarios, and allow for those historic conferences (and custom-created ones) in the game. My guess would be that the customization would show FAR more fans creating smaller, regional/historical conferences, than just a Power 2/3. It would be fascinating to look at the data.
@@captainspartan04 Now itt does but back in the day- the 70s to the 90s the Ou NU game decided the conference championship almost every year and 9 times the winner went on the be National Champion- OU in 74. 75. 85, and 2000. NU in 70, 71, 94, 95, and 97. The Ou texas match does not stack up to that
@@josephrenfro6071 How do you figure one less? Sooners 74, 75, 85, and 2000. Huskers 70, 71, 94, 95 and 97. That comes to nine so unless you are discounting OU 2000, you are wrong
Much respect for your desire to realign. I came up with my own as well. 8 divisions of 9. Atlantic--Clemson, Duke, Florida, Florida St, Miami, NC St, No Carolina, So Carolina, Wake Forest Central--Cincinnati, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisville, Michigan, Michigan St, Notre Dame, Ohio St, Purdue Midwest--Illinois, Iowa, Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Wisconsin Mountain--Arizona, Arizona St, Boise St, BYU, Colorado, Colorado St, Texas Tech, UNLV, Utah Northeast--Boston College, Maryland, Penn St, Pitt, Rutgers, Syracuse, VA Tech, Virginia, West Virginia Pacific--Cal, Oregon, Oregon St, San Diego St, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington, Washington St Southeast--Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, GA Tech, LSU, Miss St, Ole Miss, Tennessee, UCF Southwest--Arkansas, Baylor, Houston, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, TCU, Texas, Texas A&M
💯 better than what we have now. As an SU fan, my DREAM Big East would also have Penn St, Miami, and VT. We used to play Maryland often back during Big East years, so it doesn’t feel “weird” to me. But I get it- nobody wants to be in the “Cooties Conference”, so please don’t come at me - I realize my dreams are crazy in today’s world. USF & UCF are great teams, but not a ton of rivalry history there. If the Independents needed a home and we bumped conferences a bit bigger to do so, UConn would make sense to add, and even Vandy would fit well with this footprint if SEC was ready for a change. (And nobody would say no to ND, but I acknowledge that wouldn’t happen.) But even if this proposal had to stay exactly as proposed… this could save the beauty that is the game of college football. Sad that money, greed, and some weak conference “leaders” have brought us to this sad state of affairs. 😢
@@foreverorangegirl44 love your response but the main reason Maryland should be in the acc is rivalries in basketball. THE event of the year was when Maryland hosted Duke. At my graduation ceremony, three speeches ended with beat/f Duke haha. Maryland is a basketball school and we miss the ACC during basketball season so much. The big east wouldn’t be terrible because they would have an old rival in West Virginia but Maryland football has never had any true rivalries. You’d think Virginia or navy would be our best rivals in football but there’s never been any animosity between the fan groups.
If you had a single TV contact with all "College Football, Inc.," this is easy. If you reset the conferences but have each conference have their own TV contacts, then the process we are on now starts again from from the reset point.
Really glad that you are not an old dude (like me =58) calling for the halcyon days. This makes so much sense for modern fans, and for modern media. Don't they realize the money-making potential of regional/conf rivalry? Wait until the stadiums in the B10 are half empty for UCLA/USC games. Do you think Michigan St. fans give a rat's tail about USC football?
Here’s perfectly ideal college football… -9 power conferences with 9 teams in each -5 “group” conferences, 9/10 teams each -Play 8 conference games, 4 non conference -No divisions, top two teams in each conference make conference championship -12 team playoff, including top 10 conference champions + 2 at larges ***Major Conferences*** Northwoods Conference Washington Washington State Oregon State Oregon Boise State Utah BYU Wyoming Colorado Southwest Conference Cal Stanford USC UCLA San Diego State Nevada UNLV Arizona Arizona State Red River Conference Texas Tech TCU SMU Baylor Houston Texas A&M Texas Oklahoma Oklahoma State Southeastern Conference Louisiana LSU Arkansas Memphis Vandy Ole Miss Mississippi State Alabama Auburn Sunpeach Conference Georgia Georgia Tech Georgia State Florida State Florida Miami UCF USF FAU Appalachian Conference South Carolina Clemson Tennessee Appalachian State Wake Forest NC State UNC Duke West Virginia New England Conference Syracuse Boston College Rutgers Penn State Pittsburgh Maryland Virginia Liberty Virginia Tech Midwest Conference Michigan Michigan State Ohio State Cincinatti Illinois Indiana Notre Dame Louisville Kentucky Great Plains Conference Wisconsin Minnesota North Dakota State Iowa State Iowa Nebraska Kansas State Kansas Missouri ***Group Conferences*** Great West Conference Hawaii San Jose State Fresno State Utah State Colorado State Air Force New Mexico New Mexico State UTEP Southern Conference UTSA Texas State North Texas Rice Tulsa Louisiana Tech Louisiana Monroe Tulane Southern Miss Arkansas State Atlantic Conference Western Kentucky Middle Tennessee UAB Troy South Alabama FIU Georgia Southern Coastal Carolina Charlotte Northeast Conference Marshall Ohio Old Dominion Navy Temple Army UConn UMass Akron Buffalo Mid American Conference Northern Illinois Northwestern Purdue Ball State Miami (OH) Bowling Green Western Michigan Eastern Michigan Central Michigan Kent State
YES, love it. Though it would change the name of the Big 8, I would put Oklahoma and Iowa in there to get every conference to 10, you have spare teams or other teams to fix the gaps I just left in the Big 10 and South West. Everyone in conference plays everyone else is how it should be. I hope you do away with conference championship games. Tell us you playoff scenario, I'm sure it will interest me.
War on I-4 returns? As a conference game? Got my thumbs up!!! Would love to see this happen, would make college ball SO much more fun to watch. (not that it isn't already)
@@THEeyepatch11 Utah and TCU were in the mountain west before they joined their respective conferences. 12 maybe 13 years ago and they struggled for years to become a winning program in the Pac 12 and TCU in the big 12 but eventually with the time and money they grew up didn’t they all I’m saying is don’t be a freaking hypocrite !!! Give BYU, some time and money that they got and they’ll kick Utahs ass.
Duke fan over here. As much as we dislike Maryland, they're a better fit for the ACC. Maryland was in the ACC, Miami was in the Big East, so I propose a simple trade. It'll expand the Big East Florida department and restore most of the ACC founding teams (looking at you, South Carolina).
I would want to see a realignment where I like the idea of 10 teams maximum so everyone plays each other, but I want rivals to be conference opponents. It would be a game changer if we saw Clemson vs South Carolina in the same conference, or FSU and UF in the same conference as it draws more meaning to the rivalry to how it can impact their season results even more than before.
Vandy is more controversial to me bc their founder was a leader in creating the SEC in the first place. If you take history into account, you can’t remove the school that helped create the conference you’re kicking it out of.
Vandy isn’t immune to being kicked out of the SEC, and I don’t care about their “academic” representation because if that mattered so much then Georgia Tech would’ve never been kicked out either lol
Can someone just give pate the keys to the NCAA? This is the best idea I’ve heard for the sport in years. This new way of doing things is killing the sport.
Oklahoma in SWC doesn’t make sense. OU and Texas played as non conference foes for like the first century of the rivalry. Oklahoma owned the Big 8 and belongs there. 🙋🏼♂️OU fan weighing in.
Just make this happen. I agree 100000000%. Would’ve done a few different things but this is a million times better than the shit show that we have today with conferences
I'm a big fan of ten team conferences. Just makes sense to me that everyone plays everyone. And conference champs get their automatic bid to the playoff.
Oh man, how could you put OU in that s***** Southwest conference with all those Texas schools and Arkansas? No no, no. We are the kings of the big eight conference and it would be nice to have that Nebraska rivalry in November back
Josh, this video just earned you a subscriber. I love the attention to historical details and the understanding that there is enough room at the table for more than 40 teams in 2 conferences. But your Big East selections broke my heart here. As a Louisville fan, I would do ANYTHING to detach our program from Boston College, Rutgers, Syracuse, etc. This is outside of regular college football knowledge, but since the 90’s and Tom Jurich as AD, we’ve worked TIRELESSLY to separate our program from these mid major esque teams. We earned SEC membership back around 2010 only to be blocked by UK’s arbitrary veto power. This spiraled into us joining the ACC after passing on the Big 12. But we’ve gone from Metro to MVC to Big East to ACC in a matter of decades, climbing higher and higher each time. We have the resources to compete with upgraded opponents and it’s been clear for decades. Please, (I know you have no authority here) give us the respect we’ve fought SO HARD for. Put us in a conference with Miami and FSU. Make sure we play Cincy and WVU regularly, but don’t shove us into some irrelevant conference again PLEASE. Much love brother. Maybe you can swap Rutgers for Miami or something like that. We deserve to compete against a “big boy” like we have for ky entire life. I love the conferences you chose to bring back and I love most of the placements(disagree about OU and UT), but Louisville deserves better than being the clear favorite of whatever conference they end up in. That’s my issue with the Big12 actually. We’re a sure fire addition assuming we’re passed up by the SEC and B1G, but let’s be honest here. Day one in the Big 12, Louisville runs the show. That just sounds boring to me, though basketball season sounds super fun!
Sorry to burst your bubble, but firstly, Louisville would not come close to "running" the big 12 the second the join. In fact they would likely struggle competing with the top tier teams. (Utah, Arizona, Kansas St, Oklahoma St) and potentially have struggles with some other rising programs as well (UCF, Kansas, WVU, Texas Tech, Iowa St). The big 12 is known for being an ultra competative conference now after loosing OU and Texas and Louisville would simply fall into the middle of it. Secondly I actually agree with you about the big east in Pates model needing some more higher level teams. My hypothetical Big East would be - Syracuse, Boston College, Louisville, Cincinnati, Rutgers, Pitt, WVU, Virginia Tech, Miami, and UCF. I would actually perfer Penn St to be there over UCF but UCF has proven they are a Power conference team and they fit well in the big east culturally.
Thank you!! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this conference realignment is ridiculous. The SEC is no longer the SEC. It's, it's, it's the SUSC (Southern United States Conference). 😂
Because both were in a “power” conference before when they were in the Big East. Except for Rice, don’t think he elevated any other current G5 programs in his proposal. Rice too had previously been in a Power Conference, though many years ago.
Brilliant, love it, been working on a similar setup for at least 25-years. Going beyond: I would force Norte Dame and Northwestern into your Big 8 Conference and call it the Mid America 10 Conference. I would create an Independent 10 conference and it would include: Boise State, BYU, Colorado State, Massachusetts, Memphis, San Jose State, Tulane, U. Conn, Vanderbilt, and Wyoming; I know, The Traveling Big 10 might be a better name. There is your 16-Team National Championship bracket with the conference champion and runner-up getting in. The winner of the Independent 10 Conference would have the option, repeat option, to trade places with the last place team in any other conference. Any other football program not included among these 80 teams, with a sufficiently good record, would have the option, repeat option, to trade places with the last place team in the independent 10 Conference.
I think Michigan and ND doesn't necessarily need to spend money on advertising because their name sells for itself like other Top Collegiate Schools from their highly announced academics, world-class facilities, etc. Where else, other schools need the advertising locally, national and globally, to announce their brand for unheard ears
Because very few people have heard of the University of Alabama, University of Southern California, University of Florida, or The Ohio State University. The advertising that Josh spoke of was not advertising their own school, it's the advertising of commercial products.
This is virtually PERFECT, Mr. Josh Pate; bravo!!! 👏👏 I like my CORNHUSKERS going back to the B1G 8, but just one thing makes me sad: The vaunted SOONERS not being there to be our chief rivals, as in my youth. 😔😪 However, I do recognize that the RED RIVER RIVALRY with Texas vs Oklahoma is the overall bigger rivalry. I would keep BEDLAM (OU v OSU) intact, however. I totally agree with you that USC and UCLA going to New Jersey to play Rutgers, etc. is total insanity! 😬😠 The current conference alignments, NIL, and portal are slowly DESTROYING our favorite sport. 😡😭 P.S. My name for the current B1G X is the "B1G XIV/ PACIV! 😂🤣
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This is actually a brilliant breakdown or grouping. Nice work!
12 team structure
go back to the BCS (use automatic qualifiers): only 12 bowls (new years six plus six)
^^^the smaller schools get the other tv spots (post season) ^^^
separate the P5 from G5
everyone plays 8 con /4 non con games
everyone plays block schedule system in con (3 cross div games per yr, then the other 3 the next )
you get no more than 1 sub division (G5 or lower) game per yr and it must be regional
freshmen cant: transfer or get nil deals( i mean individual sponsorships)
all transfers (except grad) must sit out 1 yr
coaches salaries are capped and payed from the same pool (ex: $50 mil per school)
human selection committee becomes NCAA football only sub-committee (voted for by the HCs and ADs)
revive BIG EAST (for the most part)
SEC: Bama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, MS, Ark / UF, UGA, SC, UK, TN, Vandy
ACC: FSU, MIA, GT, Mem, Hou, merge LTech and uL(cajuns) / Clem, NC, Duke, NC State, UVA, VTech
BIG10: OSU, uM, MSU, ND, Indy, Pur / NW, ill, WI, Minn, iowa, isu
BIG12: UT, OU, OkSU, TAMU, TCU, Bay / Mizz, Kan, K State, Ttech, Co, Neb
BIG EAST: uCONN, BC, Syr, PSU, Temple, PITT / Rut, Mary, Lou, WV, Wake, Cincy
PAC12: UW, WSU, UO, O State, Cal, Stan / USC, UCLA, AZ, ASU, Utah, Boise (or Hawaii)
no independents. all other schools drop to form a new division. MEAC, SWAC, and IVY move up to join them
ACC = American Coast Conference :D Problem solved.
This would never fly, like taking Texas market out of the SEC bc they're all greeeedy ;-)
Why isn't Virginia Tech back in the Big East? Why isn't UConn back in the Big East?
wow this bald guy is a complete moron.
I'm down
The best realignment I have seen yet. I nominate Josh as our Conference Commissioner.
He needs to be football commissioner over all of it
12 team structure
go back to the BCS (use automatic qualifiers): only 12 bowls (new years six plus six)
^^^the smaller schools get the other tv spots (post season) ^^^
separate the P5 from G5
everyone plays 8 con /4 non con games
everyone plays block schedule system in con (3 cross div games per yr, then the other 3 the next )
you get no more than 1 sub division (G5 or lower) game per yr and it must be regional
freshmen cant: transfer or get nil deals( i mean individual sponsorships)
all transfers (except grad) must sit out 1 yr
coaches salaries are capped and payed from the same pool (ex: $50 mil per school)
human selection committee becomes NCAA football only sub-committee (voted for by the HCs and ADs)
revive BIG EAST (for the most part)
SEC: Bama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, MS, Ark / UF, UGA, SC, UK, TN, Vandy
ACC: FSU, MIA, GT, Mem, Hou, merge LTech and uL(cajuns) / Clem, NC, Duke, NC State, UVA, VTech
BIG10: OSU, uM, MSU, ND, Indy, Pur / NW, ill, WI, Minn, iowa, isu
BIG12: UT, OU, OkSU, TAMU, TCU, Bay / Mizz, Kan, K State, Ttech, Co, Neb
BIG EAST: uCONN, BC, Syr, PSU, Temple, PITT / Rut, Mary, Lou, WV, Wake, Cincy
PAC12: UW, WSU, UO, O State, Cal, Stan / USC, UCLA, AZ, ASU, Utah, Boise (or Hawaii)
no independents. all other schools drop to form a new division. MEAC, SWAC, and IVY move up to join them
Horseshit, he has been against the playoffs since the jump in favor of useless bowl games...nobody cares how many mineke car bowls you've won, hell noone cares about the NY6 bowls...NC or bust
I like his idea of removing Vandy and and NW, but a better format would have them form an Academically exclusive conference. The following is a Power 4 and 1 Scholar's conferences:
Scholar’s Conference
Georgia Tech
Tulane
Duke
Wake Forest
Vanderbilt
Northwestern
Boston College
Uconn
UCF
USF
Army
Navy
SEC
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Clemson
South Carolina
FSU
Miami
Tennessee
Kentucky
Louisville
Memphis
Ole Miss
Miss State
NC State
North Carolina
SWC
Texas
LSU
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Missouri
Arkansas
Kansas State
Kansas
TCU
Baylor
SMU
Houston
Arizona
Arizona State
Big North
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
Michigan State
Notre Dame
Purdue
West Virginia
Virginia Tech
Pitt
Cincinnati
Indiana
Illinois
Maryland
Virginia
Syracuse
Rutgers
Big West
USC
UCLA
Oregon
Washington
Washington St.
Oregon State
Stanford
Cal
Nebraska
Colorado
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa State
Iowa
Utah
Boise State or BYU
-sees Josh's ideal conferences
-cries with joy at the perfection of it
12 team structure
go back to the BCS (use automatic qualifiers): only 12 bowls (new years six plus six)
^^^the smaller schools get the other tv spots (post season) ^^^
separate the P5 from G5
everyone plays 8 con /4 non con games
everyone plays block schedule system in con (3 cross div games per yr, then the other 3 the next )
you get no more than 1 sub division (G5 or lower) game per yr and it must be regional
freshmen cant: transfer or get nil deals( i mean individual sponsorships)
all transfers (except grad) must sit out 1 yr
coaches salaries are capped and payed from the same pool (ex: $50 mil per school)
human selection committee becomes NCAA football only sub-committee (voted for by the HCs and ADs)
revive BIG EAST (for the most part)
SEC: Bama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, MS, Ark / UF, UGA, SC, UK, TN, Vandy
ACC: FSU, MIA, GT, Mem, Hou, merge LTech and uL(cajuns) / Clem, NC, Duke, NC State, UVA, VTech
BIG10: OSU, uM, MSU, ND, Indy, Pur / NW, ill, WI, Minn, iowa, isu
BIG12: UT, OU, OkSU, TAMU, TCU, Bay / Mizz, Kan, K State, Ttech, Co, Neb
BIG EAST: uCONN, BC, Syr, PSU, Temple, PITT / Rut, Mary, Lou, WV, Wake, Cincy
PAC12: UW, WSU, UO, O State, Cal, Stan / USC, UCLA, AZ, ASU, Utah, Boise (or Hawaii)
no independents. all other schools drop to form a new division. MEAC, SWAC, and IVY move up to join them
What perfection?
Forcing teams into a conference based solely on geographic location seems dumb to me.
@@dlpaul345 No automatic qualifiers. The top 12 teams based on rankings.
I agree with the majority of it, but I wish VT would be in the same division as West Virginia because of how much we make each other's blood boil
Wouldn’t mind those conferences structured like that for sure. If we are going to have a playoff, at least have all of them in bowl games. I’m not sure I’m going to like this home field advantage crap. Too much like the NFL and no respect for the traditions of the sport we all grew up loving.
I can't wait to play this out in NCAA 25 lol
Here he here he I second that 😁
Same here.
Me too
How??
It will be really fun if you can import the old logos and they show up on the jerseys. The Southwest Conference logo? That goofy 90's Big West logo? A man can dream...
OU fan here. I think I speak for all of us when I say that if we're bringing back both the SWC and the Big 8 we would rather be in the Big 8 and keep our historic rivalries and just play Texas in a midseason out of conference game. That being said if I were in charge of realignment I would resurrect the original Big 12 (1996-2010) instead.
I miss the feel of the old Big 12. It was just a blast back in the day watching all the different conference. The games had a different look, feel, style of play unique to each conference.
Of course OU would prefer that, because the old SWC is hot garbage outside of Texas/A&M. Texas would prefer that too. That's why the Big 12 happened. 😉
OU and Ok St were members of the SWC, both teams left in the 1920s
It’s crazy how great the original Big 12 was and failed.
Our only historic rivalries is Nebraska in Texas okie pokie state is not a rivalry it's a charity game
So back to the way it used to be. I'M ALL IN....
I think eventually it's going to be that way or revert back that way, in a new innovative way.
You can’t go back.
@@charleswebsterjr.6350yeah no, you’re headed towards 2 major conferences in the big ten and sec. there’s no going back.
This conference structure is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. Make it so!
AMEN!!!
12 team structure
go back to the BCS (use automatic qualifiers): only 12 bowls (new years six plus six)
^^^the smaller schools get the other tv spots (post season) ^^^
separate the P5 from G5
everyone plays 8 con /4 non con games
everyone plays block schedule system in con (3 cross div games per yr, then the other 3 the next )
you get no more than 1 sub division (G5 or lower) game per yr and it must be regional
freshmen cant: transfer or get nil deals( i mean individual sponsorships)
all transfers (except grad) must sit out 1 yr
coaches salaries are capped and payed from the same pool (ex: $50 mil per school)
human selection committee gets swapped out for a czar/commissioner (voted for by the HCs and ADs)
revive BIG EAST (for the most part)
SEC: Bama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, MS, Ark / UF, UGA, SC, UK, TN, Vandy
ACC: FSU, MIA, GT, Mem, Hou, merge LTech and uL(cajuns) / Clem, NC, Duke, NC State, UVA, VTech
BIG10: OSU, uM, MSU, ND, Indy, Pur / NW, ill, WI, Minn, iowa, isu
BIG12: UT, OU, OkSU, TAMU, TCU, Bay / Mizz, Kan, K State, Ttech, Co, Neb
BIG EAST: uCONN, BC, Syr, PSU, Temple, PITT / Rut, Mary, Lou, WV, Wake, Cincy
PAC12: UW, WSU, UO, O State, Cal, Stan / USC, UCLA, AZ, ASU, Utah, Boise (or Hawaii)
no independents. all other schools drop to form a new division. MEAC, SWAC, and IVY move up to join them
@dlpaul345 better than what we have now, for certain
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As a cinci fan. We would play Pitt, Louisville, West Virginia, and UCF. Absolutely love it
Instead of calling it The Big East they should call it the cream puff conference
very soon all those schools might be in the Big12 anyways...
@@jdwilmothoh my lord, shut up
@@jdwilmothbro the BIG 12 already exists.
@@terrencenewman5580we ain’t big 12. We’re the big east
One of my favorite segments you’ve ever done. There is an alternate reality where this is our CFB and it’s just upsetting that instead of this, we are getting these mega conferences where rivalries and regionality now mean nothing.
This is the greatest video ever made,
I miss so much when the conference you were from told us where you were at
BYU and Utah need to be in the same conference so they can have their rivalry every year, it's one of the most under-appreciated rivalries in the sport
What’s cool about this is they can have a protected rivalry. Utah being in the Big 8 means they only have 7 conference games, need 5 more games to fill and one of them can be BYU every year, another could be Utah State. Still have 3 more cupcake teams they can add to the schedule if they wanted. Kind of ideal for them honestly
In addition, BYU is independent so they can definitely schedule this one game every single year
Wait until you find out about the Florida state florida rivalry, or the countless other inter conference rivalries that happen yearly...
Rivalries are come out of conference. Take it from a Kentucky fan who gets to kick Louisvilles ass every year
Ah yes The Holy War…
This alignment is as close to perfect as it can get.
12 team structure
go back to the BCS (use automatic qualifiers): only 12 bowls (new years six plus six)
^^^the smaller schools get the other tv spots (post season) ^^^
separate the P5 from G5
everyone plays 8 con /4 non con games
everyone plays block schedule system in con (3 cross div games per yr, then the other 3 the next )
you get no more than 1 sub division (G5 or lower) game per yr and it must be regional
freshmen cant: transfer or get nil deals( i mean individual sponsorships)
all transfers (except grad) must sit out 1 yr
coaches salaries are capped and payed from the same pool (ex: $50 mil per school)
human selection committee is canned for a D1 FBS czar (voted for by the HCs and ADs)
revive BIG EAST (for the most part)
SEC: Bama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, MS, Ark / UF, UGA, SC, UK, TN, Vandy
ACC: FSU, MIA, GT, Mem, Hou, merge LTech and uL(cajuns) / Clem, NC, Duke, NC State, UVA, VTech
BIG10: OSU, uM, MSU, ND, Indy, Pur / NW, ill, WI, Minn, iowa, isu
BIG12: UT, OU, OkSU, TAMU, TCU, Bay / Mizz, Kan, K State, Ttech, Co, Neb
BIG EAST: uCONN, BC, Syr, PSU, Temple, PITT / Rut, Mary, Lou, WV, Wake, Cincy
PAC12: UW, WSU, UO, O State, Cal, Stan / USC, UCLA, AZ, ASU, Utah, Boise (or Hawaii)
no independents. all other schools drop to form a new division. MEAC, SWAC, and IVY move up to join them
@@dlpaul345PSU seems pretty likely to leave that Big East, maybe Pitt to B1G and ND to Big East.
@@joshfisher1299 ND is in the midwest and rivals with uM, while also pairing with Indy and Purdue. PSU pairs with Temple and PITT. a major focus of my realignment is to preserve regionalism, to keep the major powers spread out and to maintain/restore rivalries. each team gets 4 non con games to do whatever they want (almost). PSU can maintain it's new found rivalry w/ OSU as an annual non con game
@@joshfisher1299 . . . and you cant just focus on the big brands; you have to give the lower brands a chance to capitalize on winning seasons. there's a reason teams like cincy, rutgers, uconn, memphis, and houston only show up like once every 5-10 years, the conferences are unbalanced. they need to have the same conference structure and scheduling rules. this addresses: in conference strength of schedule, fan and student travel, rivalries, teams purposely scheduling cupcakes, and forces more teams to play quality opponents more often in general (all of which equals fewer dips in revenue per game for the greedy pigs and better product for viewers)
@dlpaul345 Like I said, PSU would leave this scenario. Also, PSU and ND at one point were also considered rivals. If you are going to force everyone into a conference and not have independents, then ND with OSU and UM will get us into the same situation we're in now. The biggest brands need to be split out amongst conferences relatively evenly.
A master class in efficiency and organization
The seven wonders of college football! 💪🏼🏈
Please God someone put this man in charge
as a husker fan the big 8 isn't the big 8 without OU . that being said I think your onto something.
Had the big 8 never expanded or broken up fine. But these are the big 12 north teams which was the weakest part of the big 12. As a Mizzou fan this would be miserable
Utah vs Nebraska sounds kinda cool for some reason
@@Drollpanther the Big8 was one of the if not the perenial conference of that time period, they were also the first conference to have 4 teams with 10+ wins in a season
@@Drollpanther at the end when Nebraska fell off the south took over before that it was just Texas
@@xperez14 and I believe Colorado,Nebraska,Oklahoma finished 1,2,3 in the ap rankings
ASU fan here, this is the best conference landscape period. Greed is ruining college football in real time.
PS. GIVE REGGIE HIS HEISMAN BACK!!!!!
He got it back!!!
@@alexcuevas5633 yoooooo!!!!!! The football gods heard all of us! 🙏🏼
This is the best conference realignment strategy video, I've seen so far.
It’s missing like half of the teams though, despite being EVERY CONFERENCE
This makes so much sense that it will never happen.
I was typing the same identical comment!
Everyone who loves college football, loves your idea on these conference alignments.
Almost, there’s some classic teams that get left out, and in this concept, otherwise weve would have just seen 180 schools just have their football programs shut down for no reason
No. The SWC is terrible and boring.
Honestly these conferences work way better for the other sports too other than just football
Geography matters
Almost no one cares about the other sports.
@@unc0mm0n2 not true but okay 😭. What about basketball? Travel times for basketball is gonna go crazy under these conferences... March Madness gets crazy viewership, and the College World Series gets decent viewership too
@@calebshreve16 basketball will be fine. Baseball is basically one conference that matters. That's like saying wrestling will be terrible travel for the AAC. If those sports made so much money why don't they make any money and have awful viewership. Two sports matter and the decisions should reflect what is best for those two sports (with a major emphasis on football).
"EVERY College Football Conference" 10:12 - "I didn't do the G5"
The amount of people that don't care for the G5 in ANY manner and think they shouldn't even be in the CFP is INSANE. Liberty played an all G5, no FCS, schedule and went 13-0 with a C-USA Championship, and people acted like Liberty played half of their schedule against high school, JuCo, and NAIA schools. This dude is just feeding into that thought process by dismissing the G5 to such an extent.
@chrissao_502 for real the amount of disrespect I see towards the group of 5 is insane
@@chrissao_502I mean we have the most recent examples of Appalachian state beating A&M in 2022 and niu beating Notre dame this year. G5 puts out great football and great nfl prospects every year
@@chrissao_502aged well
@@chrissao_502yeah and then liberty goes loses to 1 win Kennesaw State which is the little random school down the street from me that I didn’t even know had a football team.
I have always said that a team in one conference should play every other team in their own conference every year. It is absurd that these big teams are playing the FCS opponents some weeks and not someone else in their own conference. Heck, in basketball, teams typically play each other twice.
I understand the safety concerns of too many games, but smaller conference sizes can ensure that teams don't play too many games.
Thank you for stating that!
I actually want the power teams on the road to the FCS, and especially on the road to the FCS powers for some classic showdowns
PUT THIS MAN IN CHARGE PLEASE
Silly Josh, this is far too logical
Exceptional job. I would go for this in a heartbeat. Interest would be created by the regional rivalries. Furthermore a playoff featuring conference champions, would also create interest and regional pride. Which "virtue is more emotionally important to people, "greed" or "pride"? Ultimately "pride" is more important to people who will, in the long run, spend more money on the sport. Following college sports is an emotional experience and greed is a shallow emotion.
Chippewa fan and alum, would love to see you do this for the G5!
As a bronco fan I second this
Memphis alumni thinks this just makes the chip on our shoulder a lot bigger
@@michaelchirichella2380if there is a scenario where the ACC stays afloat and rebuilds, I can see Memphis being invited, along with Oregon St & Wash St. (might as well make a Western pod, unless the PAC rebuilds also, as they say they intend to). Memphis is a rising program.
Fire up Chips!
Those are some amazing conferences
I think I would love to see this, but you have to have OU in the big 8 and move Utah and BYU into the same conference. OU and Texas would still play every year like they did pre-big 12 days.
I would add Iowa and Byu to the Big 8. Notre Dame to Big 10. Then you got 7 badass conferences.
Notre Dame must remain independent, it's part of our catholic identity 🇻🇦
This is excellent and would be close to ideal.
Most logical thing I've heard anyone say in a while
LOVE this content! Want more historical look backs, JP!
Arkansas wouldn't/didn't want to be the only non Texas team in the SWC either.
Because they used to cheat us
They did have their glory days while in the SWC. They are more of a mid level team, and conference realignment is making it almost impossible for these mid level teams to rise up and have a good season with a chance at a championship. There is no room to breathe in college football anymore.
Arkansas is top 25 all time despite our recent problems. That’s not mid level despite what an elephant opines.
Why?
Let’s add Tulne and let OU stay in the Big 8. Or leave out Rice and add OKST.
The TV deals would ruin everything. ESPN/Fox would pay the SEC and Big 10 more than the other conferences and then teams would start to jump ship.
Just do what Chip Kelly said to do and have all Power conference and possibly even group conference share a single TV contract. Introduce some sort of revenue sharing model that still rewards the bigger schools and school success but still keeps the other schools competative.
@@tmcobb04 I think you could create a model where the pie is broken up by a formula consisting of:
1) Base, equally divided to all teams
2) % based on viewership + attendance/game
3) % based on weekly rankings (combination of current polls + AI, or NET-style)
Post season payouts based on invites & performance/wins. And I think the PARTICIPATING athletes should get a huge amount of the post-season payouts. It would incentivize them to not sit out. (Give equal amounts to those who are out due to injury, but if you CHOOSE to not play, then… no soup for you.)
@@tmcobb04Essentially make the CFP contract be the regular season contract?
@@insertcolorherehawk3761 You could go that route, but if I were in charge the the CFP wouldn’t be a separate entity. It would simply be a part of college football like everything else. All the money made by the CFP would be divided up to the teams that made it with a bonus depending on how far you make it. You could even find a way to divide up money made to other schools on the conferences based on how each conference performs in the playoff.
This made me realize how much I miss the original PAC 10. I always felt like the conference started to fall off when they added Utah and Colorado and became the pac 12.
To be honest if they were going to bring in Utah they should have brought BYU in with them. I don't care how pissy Stanford or California will get. Or they could have brought in Nevada and UNLV to take advantage of the Las Vegas market.
Shit take is shit. Utah was great in the Pac-12. It was Colorado that absolutely faceplanted for countless years.
The "Original" was the Pac 8 (8 true West coast teams); I'm not saying Arizona & ASU can't be there, but they came later to make it the Pac 10.
As a spokesman of the West Virginia fan conglomerate, I approve of these conferences, however I believe in the pit of my being that Mimi and Virginia Tech belong in the big east, I have spoken.
As an SU alumni, I 💯 agree.
Where is Penn State?
@@RonaldSparks-iw3ouI really wish Penn State was back with SU, but I know that old rivalry will never come back again. 😔
Put the Big East dream together: Penn State, Pitt, WVU, Syracuse, BC, Rutgers, Miami, VT, Louisville, UConn. Invite back Nova, G-town, Seton Hall, Providence, for B-ball. The BB tournament at MSG would be insane.
Dude your 1000% right maybe grab fsu and clemson might have something
Josh Pate for commissioner ! Great Conferences.
Best episode ever. Stands up to repeat viewing.
Yo, the SWC and BIG8 would be LIT!!!!
In other words, Bring bacck conferences from the '70's.
Minus Vanderbilt.
LoL
This is the best conference realignment I have seen the only thing I would do differently is put Northwestern back in the Big Ten and remove South Florida from the Big East and put in Penn State. I'm an old guy and seeing Penn State in the Big Ten and no longer playing Pitt, Syracuse, and West Virginia is something I still can't get my head around.
I always find conference realignment fascinating and have worked on my version for years. Pretty good video with an interesting perspective and ideas.
Really really great job. Only thing I’d change is get Maryland back in the ACC and send Miami to the Big East.
Awesome show, Josh! I couldn't agree more! All hail old-school College Football! I long for those old days when logic and tradition ruled the day!
Utah doesn’t have history with any of the Big 8 teams other than Colorado and is both geographically and culturally farther from the Big8 teams than the PAC teams.
Nah Utah and Colorado have always been the odd ones out in the PAC. There’s nothing “Pacific” about them.
Pretty good, but I would move Virginia and Va Tech to the Big East and change USF and UCF to ACC. Otherwise it's over 1300 miles from Boston College to South Florida.
I liked how it was before everybody started leaving the big 12, the longhorn network ruined college football
No the SWC collapse is what killed the conferences as we know it.
Love the idea. Needs tweaking.
7 conferences still hurts your potential playoffs. The problem this year is a team that won there conference was left out. 7 conferences still leaves a debate open for whose in and whose out.
8 conferences is perfect for 8 team playoffs. Win your conference make the playoffs. Simple. No arguing over who got in and who didn't. You don't win your conference your OUT. Plus 8 teams is the right number of teams for a playoff. Any more then that waters down the product. Especially with 8 conferences. Your playoffs consist of the top 8 teams that won their conference and are viying for the College Football Championship. Now how that broken up is open for debate but that's the fix.
Love it. Who would you have in mind?
Makes sense for the most part. Each conference, including the "Big 8" should be 10 teams, play 9 conference games plus one cupcake and two from the other major conferences. The problem is the SEC and ESPN who won't relinquish any control and don't realize they are killing the goose that laid the golden egg.
I would love to see this...... bring back rivalries. And the USF v UCF game in a power conference would make it HUGE.
My only change… add Oklahoma and BYU to the Big 8 and call them the Real Big Ten just to make the Big Ten mad.
This is way too logical. All conference champions would automatically get invitation to play off. The remaining spots are given to teams according to ranking. 16 team playoff just the rest of CFB divisions do.
He saying there should only be 8 spots in the college football playoff an since in his world there are 7 conferences they get auto bids an then 1 school from a group of 5 would get the last spot. then you have your 8 team playoff that way. There expanding the playoff to 16 teams an i dont like it cause they changing up the rules of the game to were who ever wins the conference gets in the tournament even tho they shouldnt have gotten there. I LOVE the way josh has his college football playoff landscape an I Think thats what should happen!
I'd leave Northwestern in the Big Ten, move Penn State to independent or Big East, and put Maryland back in the ACC. Otherwise completely agree.
Agree
Big Ten vs. Pac 10 Rose Bowl is ALL that matters! Back to 1993!
I think Northwestern would drop football if it was forced out of the Big Ten.
It would be too hard and expensive to build a schedule even if they played ND, Stanford, Duke, and Illinois every year. How do you find 8 other opponents without having a pseudo-Big Ten schedule?
I like his idea of removing Vandy and and NW, but a better format would have them form an Academically exclusive conference. The following is a Power 4 and 1 Scholar's conferences:
Scholar’s Conference
Georgia Tech
Tulane
Duke
Wake Forest
Vanderbilt
Northwestern
Boston College
Uconn
UCF
USF
Army
Navy
SEC
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Clemson
South Carolina
FSU
Miami
Tennessee
Kentucky
Louisville
Memphis
Ole Miss
Miss State
NC State
North Carolina
SWC
Texas
LSU
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Missouri
Arkansas
Kansas State
Kansas
TCU
Baylor
SMU
Houston
Arizona
Arizona State
Big North
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
Michigan State
Notre Dame
Purdue
West Virginia
Virginia Tech
Pitt
Cincinnati
Indiana
Illinois
Maryland
Virginia
Syracuse
Rutgers
Big West
USC
UCLA
Oregon
Washington
Washington St.
Oregon State
Stanford
Cal
Nebraska
Colorado
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa State
Iowa
Utah
Boise State or BYU
I freaking love this.
There’s perfectly sane reasons why these old conference you want back are no longer in existence…
“All the originals are there” in the big east. I beg to differ. - a VT fan
What about the G5 Conferences: AAC, CUSA, MAC, MWC, SunBelt that would be interesting to see what you would do.
This is brilliant. As a guy who played ncaa football, I use to love rearranging the conferences. However, the big 8, big east, and southwest conference where not available. I hope the new college football game will have the old conferences available.
I don’t play video games, but I understand how highly anticipated this game release is, and how highly-played it is. It would be nice if the powers that be would look at what the fans are creating as their own fantasy scenarios, and allow for those historic conferences (and custom-created ones) in the game. My guess would be that the customization would show FAR more fans creating smaller, regional/historical conferences, than just a Power 2/3. It would be fascinating to look at the data.
As a 90s kid this felt like therapy. Absolutely nailed it Pate.
Notre Dame and BYU to the Big 8, every conference needs 10 schools.
BYU and Iowa to the Big 8, add Notre Dame to the Big 10.
This is the best segment you have ever done.
You forgot the Nebraska Oklahoma rivalry of old. OU and NU in the Big 8
Olkahoma Texas feels bigger than olkahoma Nebraska
@@captainspartan04 Now itt does but back in the day- the 70s to the 90s the Ou NU game decided the conference championship almost every year and 9 times the winner went on the be National Champion- OU in 74. 75. 85, and 2000. NU in 70, 71, 94, 95, and 97. The Ou texas match does not stack up to that
@internationalmatt1 you do realize it's only 1 less national championship right? I wouldnt stay that doesnt stack up. But it is 1 less, sure.
@@josephrenfro6071 How do you figure one less? Sooners 74, 75, 85, and 2000. Huskers 70, 71, 94, 95 and 97. That comes to nine so unless you are discounting OU 2000, you are wrong
One of the best segments of the show and this version of college football would instantly be better than the current one
Penn State, Miami and Virginia Tech should be in The Big East.
I would love to see this. The only thing that I would change is to put Penn State in the Big East, and Notre Dame in the Big 10.
Much respect for your desire to realign. I came up with my own as well. 8 divisions of 9.
Atlantic--Clemson, Duke, Florida, Florida St, Miami, NC St, No Carolina, So Carolina, Wake Forest
Central--Cincinnati, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisville, Michigan, Michigan St, Notre Dame, Ohio St, Purdue
Midwest--Illinois, Iowa, Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Wisconsin
Mountain--Arizona, Arizona St, Boise St, BYU, Colorado, Colorado St, Texas Tech, UNLV, Utah
Northeast--Boston College, Maryland, Penn St, Pitt, Rutgers, Syracuse, VA Tech, Virginia, West Virginia
Pacific--Cal, Oregon, Oregon St, San Diego St, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington, Washington St
Southeast--Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, GA Tech, LSU, Miss St, Ole Miss, Tennessee, UCF
Southwest--Arkansas, Baylor, Houston, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, TCU, Texas, Texas A&M
In 5 years it’s just gonna be the SEC and Big 10. I really love these conference realignments
Maryland fan and you’re right, that is upsetting. If not the big 10, we need to be in the ACC.
I’d swap Maryland with Miami
Swap Maryland with Virginia tech
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💯 better than what we have now. As an SU fan, my DREAM Big East would also have Penn St, Miami, and VT. We used to play Maryland often back during Big East years, so it doesn’t feel “weird” to me. But I get it- nobody wants to be in the “Cooties Conference”, so please don’t come at me - I realize my dreams are crazy in today’s world. USF & UCF are great teams, but not a ton of rivalry history there. If the Independents needed a home and we bumped conferences a bit bigger to do so, UConn would make sense to add, and even Vandy would fit well with this footprint if SEC was ready for a change. (And nobody would say no to ND, but I acknowledge that wouldn’t happen.) But even if this proposal had to stay exactly as proposed… this could save the beauty that is the game of college football. Sad that money, greed, and some weak conference “leaders” have brought us to this sad state of affairs. 😢
@@foreverorangegirl44 love your response but the main reason Maryland should be in the acc is rivalries in basketball. THE event of the year was when Maryland hosted Duke. At my graduation ceremony, three speeches ended with beat/f Duke haha. Maryland is a basketball school and we miss the ACC during basketball season so much.
The big east wouldn’t be terrible because they would have an old rival in West Virginia but Maryland football has never had any true rivalries. You’d think Virginia or navy would be our best rivals in football but there’s never been any animosity between the fan groups.
If you had a single TV contact with all "College Football, Inc.," this is easy. If you reset the conferences but have each conference have their own TV contacts, then the process we are on now starts again from from the reset point.
I am sorry Josh, the NCAA has decided this makes to much sense and we can not allow things that make sense.
Really glad that you are not an old dude (like me =58) calling for the halcyon days. This makes so much sense for modern fans, and for modern media. Don't they realize the money-making potential of regional/conf rivalry?
Wait until the stadiums in the B10 are half empty for UCLA/USC games. Do you think Michigan St. fans give a rat's tail about USC football?
Love it! Conferences that make sense
Here’s perfectly ideal college football…
-9 power conferences with 9 teams in each
-5 “group” conferences, 9/10 teams each
-Play 8 conference games, 4 non conference
-No divisions, top two teams in each conference make conference championship
-12 team playoff, including top 10 conference champions + 2 at larges
***Major Conferences***
Northwoods Conference
Washington
Washington State
Oregon State
Oregon
Boise State
Utah
BYU
Wyoming
Colorado
Southwest Conference
Cal
Stanford
USC
UCLA
San Diego State
Nevada
UNLV
Arizona
Arizona State
Red River Conference
Texas Tech
TCU
SMU
Baylor
Houston
Texas A&M
Texas
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Southeastern Conference
Louisiana
LSU
Arkansas
Memphis
Vandy
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Alabama
Auburn
Sunpeach Conference
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Georgia State
Florida State
Florida
Miami
UCF
USF
FAU
Appalachian Conference
South Carolina
Clemson
Tennessee
Appalachian State
Wake Forest
NC State
UNC
Duke
West Virginia
New England Conference
Syracuse
Boston College
Rutgers
Penn State
Pittsburgh
Maryland
Virginia
Liberty
Virginia Tech
Midwest Conference
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Cincinatti
Illinois
Indiana
Notre Dame
Louisville
Kentucky
Great Plains Conference
Wisconsin
Minnesota
North Dakota State
Iowa State
Iowa
Nebraska
Kansas State
Kansas
Missouri
***Group Conferences***
Great West Conference
Hawaii
San Jose State
Fresno State
Utah State
Colorado State
Air Force
New Mexico
New Mexico State
UTEP
Southern Conference
UTSA
Texas State
North Texas
Rice
Tulsa
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana Monroe
Tulane
Southern Miss
Arkansas State
Atlantic Conference
Western Kentucky
Middle Tennessee
UAB
Troy
South Alabama
FIU
Georgia Southern
Coastal Carolina
Charlotte
Northeast Conference
Marshall
Ohio
Old Dominion
Navy
Temple
Army
UConn
UMass
Akron
Buffalo
Mid American Conference
Northern Illinois
Northwestern
Purdue
Ball State
Miami (OH)
Bowling Green
Western Michigan
Eastern Michigan
Central Michigan
Kent State
I need this in my veins right now......
YES, love it. Though it would change the name of the Big 8, I would put Oklahoma and Iowa in there to get every conference to 10, you have spare teams or other teams to fix the gaps I just left in the Big 10 and South West. Everyone in conference plays everyone else is how it should be. I hope you do away with conference championship games. Tell us you playoff scenario, I'm sure it will interest me.
War on I-4 returns? As a conference game? Got my thumbs up!!! Would love to see this happen, would make college ball SO much more fun to watch. (not that it isn't already)
I'd add BYU + Colo State to your Big 8 and call it the Central 10
Colorado state is not a power team and shouldn’t be considered one.
@@thejackbox neither is BYU, last season in the Big XII proved that.
12 years ago, neither was TCU or Utah!! Utah fans are such hypocrites!
@@MichaelSaline 12 years ago? How old were you 12 years ago... 0? That was a pathetic reach.
Desperation is a stinky deodorant. Hilarious.
@@THEeyepatch11 Utah and TCU were in the mountain west before they joined their respective conferences. 12 maybe 13 years ago and they struggled for years to become a winning program in the Pac 12 and TCU in the big 12 but eventually with the time and money they grew up didn’t they all I’m saying is don’t be a freaking hypocrite !!! Give BYU, some time and money that they got and they’ll kick Utahs ass.
Your re-alignment is so much better than what we have now! I wish this was reality.
Duke fan over here. As much as we dislike Maryland, they're a better fit for the ACC. Maryland was in the ACC, Miami was in the Big East, so I propose a simple trade. It'll expand the Big East Florida department and restore most of the ACC founding teams (looking at you, South Carolina).
I hate to agree w/ a Dookie, but he's right. MD goes to the ACC & VT or The "u" goes to the Big East.
I would want to see a realignment where I like the idea of 10 teams maximum so everyone plays each other, but I want rivals to be conference opponents. It would be a game changer if we saw Clemson vs South Carolina in the same conference, or FSU and UF in the same conference as it draws more meaning to the rivalry to how it can impact their season results even more than before.
Vandy is more controversial to me bc their founder was a leader in creating the SEC in the first place.
If you take history into account, you can’t remove the school that helped create the conference you’re kicking it out of.
Vandy doesn't take sports seriously.
The colonists kicked the Brits out of the country. Vandy can be kicked out of the SEC. Just like Tulane.
Vandy isn’t immune to being kicked out of the SEC, and I don’t care about their “academic” representation because if that mattered so much then Georgia Tech would’ve never been kicked out either lol
Vandy is in the SEC for baseball and their academics. If they weren’t good in one of those they wouldn’t be in.
@@cane870 Nobody cares about baseball, and if academics mattered, Harvard and Yale would be getting invites.
Can someone just give pate the keys to the NCAA? This is the best idea I’ve heard for the sport in years. This new way of doing things is killing the sport.
Oklahoma in SWC doesn’t make sense. OU and Texas played as non conference foes for like the first century of the rivalry. Oklahoma owned the Big 8 and belongs there. 🙋🏼♂️OU fan weighing in.
The Pac-10 was perfect as it was; we didn't want or need Utah or Colorado, and I love everything about this proposed realignment. Make it so.
This is awesome Josh 🎉
This video was a breath of fresh air! Thanks, Josh!
Just make this happen. I agree 100000000%. Would’ve done a few different things but this is a million times better than the shit show that we have today with conferences
I'm a big fan of ten team conferences. Just makes sense to me that everyone plays everyone. And conference champs get their automatic bid to the playoff.
Oh man, how could you put OU in that s***** Southwest conference with all those Texas schools and Arkansas? No no, no. We are the kings of the big eight conference and it would be nice to have that Nebraska rivalry in November back
Josh, this video just earned you a subscriber. I love the attention to historical details and the understanding that there is enough room at the table for more than 40 teams in 2 conferences.
But your Big East selections broke my heart here. As a Louisville fan, I would do ANYTHING to detach our program from Boston College, Rutgers, Syracuse, etc.
This is outside of regular college football knowledge, but since the 90’s and Tom Jurich as AD, we’ve worked TIRELESSLY to separate our program from these mid major esque teams. We earned SEC membership back around 2010 only to be blocked by UK’s arbitrary veto power. This spiraled into us joining the ACC after passing on the Big 12. But we’ve gone from Metro to MVC to Big East to ACC in a matter of decades, climbing higher and higher each time. We have the resources to compete with upgraded opponents and it’s been clear for decades.
Please, (I know you have no authority here) give us the respect we’ve fought SO HARD for. Put us in a conference with Miami and FSU. Make sure we play Cincy and WVU regularly, but don’t shove us into some irrelevant conference again PLEASE.
Much love brother. Maybe you can swap Rutgers for Miami or something like that. We deserve to compete against a “big boy” like we have for ky entire life.
I love the conferences you chose to bring back and I love most of the placements(disagree about OU and UT), but Louisville deserves better than being the clear favorite of whatever conference they end up in.
That’s my issue with the Big12 actually. We’re a sure fire addition assuming we’re passed up by the SEC and B1G, but let’s be honest here. Day one in the Big 12, Louisville runs the show. That just sounds boring to me, though basketball season sounds super fun!
Sorry to burst your bubble, but firstly, Louisville would not come close to "running" the big 12 the second the join. In fact they would likely struggle competing with the top tier teams. (Utah, Arizona, Kansas St, Oklahoma St) and potentially have struggles with some other rising programs as well (UCF, Kansas, WVU, Texas Tech, Iowa St). The big 12 is known for being an ultra competative conference now after loosing OU and Texas and Louisville would simply fall into the middle of it. Secondly I actually agree with you about the big east in Pates model needing some more higher level teams. My hypothetical Big East would be - Syracuse, Boston College, Louisville, Cincinnati, Rutgers, Pitt, WVU, Virginia Tech, Miami, and UCF. I would actually perfer Penn St to be there over UCF but UCF has proven they are a Power conference team and they fit well in the big east culturally.
Thank you!! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this conference realignment is ridiculous. The SEC is no longer the SEC. It's, it's, it's the SUSC (Southern United States Conference). 😂
How is it that Boise State is continually passed up for being in a power conference but somehow USF and UCONN get a spot at the table???
Unfortunately money drives all sports. ie: market size....
Because both were in a “power” conference before when they were in the Big East. Except for Rice, don’t think he elevated any other current G5 programs in his proposal. Rice too had previously been in a Power Conference, though many years ago.
Brilliant, love it, been working on a similar setup for at least 25-years.
Going beyond:
I would force Norte Dame and Northwestern into your Big 8 Conference and call it the Mid America 10 Conference.
I would create an Independent 10 conference and it would include: Boise State, BYU, Colorado State, Massachusetts, Memphis, San Jose State, Tulane, U. Conn, Vanderbilt, and Wyoming; I know, The Traveling Big 10 might be a better name.
There is your 16-Team National Championship bracket with the conference champion and runner-up getting in.
The winner of the Independent 10 Conference would have the option, repeat option, to trade places with the last place team in any other conference.
Any other football program not included among these 80 teams, with a sufficiently good record, would have the option, repeat option, to trade places with the last place team in the independent 10 Conference.
Iowa was never in the big 8, Joined the big 10(west) in 1899.
You’re technically right (which is the best kind of right.) But Iowa was in Missouri Valley and Big10 from 1907-1908. So they do have Big 8 ties.
Yes. As an ND *and* Rice (grad school) alum, I’d love to see the SWC back.
NO we do NOT want to be in a conference.
I think Michigan and ND doesn't necessarily need to spend money on advertising because their name sells for itself like other Top Collegiate Schools from their highly announced academics, world-class facilities, etc. Where else, other schools need the advertising locally, national and globally, to announce their brand for unheard ears
Because very few people have heard of the University of Alabama, University of Southern California, University of Florida, or The Ohio State University. The advertising that Josh spoke of was not advertising their own school, it's the advertising of commercial products.
This is virtually PERFECT, Mr. Josh Pate; bravo!!! 👏👏 I like my CORNHUSKERS going back to the B1G 8, but just one thing makes me sad: The vaunted SOONERS not being there to be our chief rivals, as in my youth. 😔😪 However, I do recognize that the RED RIVER RIVALRY with Texas vs Oklahoma is the overall bigger rivalry. I would keep BEDLAM (OU v OSU) intact, however. I totally agree with you that USC and UCLA going to New Jersey to play Rutgers, etc. is total insanity! 😬😠 The current conference alignments, NIL, and portal are slowly DESTROYING our favorite sport. 😡😭 P.S. My name for the current B1G X is the "B1G XIV/ PACIV! 😂🤣
Josh continues to provide hope for humanity.
I love it. The only problem is that this won’t actually be a reality. 😢
College football has been hijacked. Sad.
Tradition and geography contribute so much to why we like college football. 50 years from now people might not know about these things.