@@BiGDeE3 I think there are lots of benefits to mounting the V-4 longitudinally. It allows the bike to transition side-to-side quickly, without the gyroscopic effect of the engine internals. Goldwings and many BMWs enjoy this benefit as well. Cheers!
Nice Jon! No coffee for me yet, I plan to go back to sleep for a bit. Yeah, the ST is a bike I would consider for my next purchase. I'm looking forward to seeing more about it. Eric in NC
Hi Jon i looked at those once but a little too big for me so i got a nt 700v non abs which suited me better and seemed to be enough power for me as well.
Im trying to figure out my next bike for longer rides and 2 up. Eyeing this or maybe a R1200 RT. I haven’t ridden it but it does feel very heavy getting it off the side stand. I love the look of the ST1300s. Great video.
Very cool! The RT is another favorite of mine from a riding standpoint. I think the RT is a bit lighter on its feet (and on the scales). However, the ST has a big power advantage, smoothness advantage, and I'm sure a much lower cost/mile regarding maintenance. Decisions, decisions!
@straightchad8059 Funny you should ask that! There was an FJR with identical mileage, year, and condition that I was looking at when I got the ST. I guess my choice is obvious 😅. The FJR1300 is a great bike, too, though. I hope to feature one on the channel soon. Cheers!
Jon, you didn't mention the mileage. These have a timing chain. Looking back at my ownership of a 2006 I'm surprised I did it. Pretty heavy at a stop (heavy overall), top heavy, but very fast and torquey. Yes maint. is a pain. I'd pull it in the basment, strip it naked, and do EVERYTHING it needs for the coming year. Don't want to pull that tupperware twice. Checked the valves 3 times in 60k+ miles, stayed in spec. No problems other then normal maint. Seat looks wide and comfy, I think it's a Russell seat. Overall I like the lightness, simplicity, and cheapness of my current 92 750 Nighthawk. In 5 min the seat, tank, and side covers are off. All you have to do for all maint. Then the biggest...Hydraulic valve adjustment!!
@petev.9357 Hi, Pete! This one has 38k miles (and climbing). You did a great job maintaining your ST1300 - I know since I was the next owner, and it was my winter bike that year 😉! I'm working through the maintenance on this one now. I have two seized fairing bumper bolts preventing me from removing the fairing, so I'll address that this week. The naked bikes are nicer to work on for most jobs. Gotta love the hydraulic valve adjustment!
When you go back together lube those fasteners. Did you get the 2 loose at the very bottom chin of the front fairing? Those seize up too from road spray, right behind the front tire.
@petev.9357 One of those is missing, and the other seems really tight 😕. I'm not happy about it, and will definitely lube them well prior to reassembly.
@imunknownsource8696 That's a good idea. I have owned the CTX 1300 as well. In short, the CTX is the cruiser version of the ST. If you're a cruiser fan, you may like the CTX better. For me, the ST1300 fits my riding preferences better - it is more comfortable, handles better, has great luggage, better wind protection, more power, better suspension, more features, etc. Cheers!
I just saw a 2007 st1300 for sale at the Honda dealership, same color, miles, I think was in the 40,000, for 7,999.00, no top box, SW Ohio, Fairfield Honda, they look like a very nice cruiser.
That motor must be silky smooth and cops use those here on the Highway ,I had linked on my 25 anniversary VfR 800,never noticed it much .That shield is great and 500 mile days would be nothing on that.
@flexjay87 Right on! I've also owned multiple ST1100s. I like those bikes as well. The ST1300 has some advantages in lower weight, more power, better shifting, better luggage, and better handling. However, I like the styling of the 1100 better, and I don't care for the complexity of the 1300s linked brakes. Cheers!
The Honda ST models are selling for very very low money in my area these days. It's a grand motorcycle, but perhaps with punitively high insurance costs in Ontario, Canada??
A nice bike Jon they go pass 100,000 miles with easy when you service the bike I have a question for you…. Is the ST1300 have a belt drive just like the goldwing?? I know you’ll do a great job like your other bikes enjoy your new toy. Sal
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 Sorry he said belt driven. My 84 had the T belts but my 06 had chains thank goodness. And an alternator instead of that weak stator. That was a pain.
I just bought a 2006 and parked my Vstar 650 a few days ago. Sadly, I don't want to ride my 650 any more... the ST has much better handling at low & high speed and the engine purrs like the proverbial kitten while giving me the option to comfortably cruise on the highway.
I've heard that the heat on the legs is worse on those bikes than most other engine configurations. Can you please comment on that after you do the ride review.
@mr1bienvenu1 That's a great topic suggestion! Engine heat is a problem on almost every fully-faired touring bike, period. Combined with great wind protection, they're just not comfortable to ride if the temp is above 80 degrees F. The Concours 1400 and FJR1300 are just as bad. I will cover this in the review. Cheers!
Owning one and from the ST1300 forum, getting a perfect TB sync goes a long way towards killing the heat. Removing most of the inner fairing gets the rest. I also put on a very low sport windshield and then it was fine in the heat of summer. This bike definitely has an excess of power for high speed hiway running.
I was thinking later in the day that a PERFECT naked bike for you that is only one year newer than this ST1300, is the 2008 Suzuki BKing. I had one and I loved it, but its weight was just too intimidating for my height/weight. I many times had the thought that were I over 6 feet tall and 200 lbs, it would be a great bike for me to have kept. If you find a deal, at least try it out. The gas tank design actually provides a ton of wind protection. I'm not sure about leg room---seat to pegs.
I almost bought one of these about two years ago. Fortunately, I talked to a man that serviced these for police departments just before I bought. He described the pitfalls of servicing the worn linked-brake components. It can get expensive.
@OzBloke Very true. It's hard to find a new bike with the level of performance, touring capability, and reliability for under $20k these days. These were expensive when new as well. However, just because you can find them used at a good deal, they aren't necessarily cheap to have worked on. Cheers!
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ST1100 owner here. I can't complain. Superb machines
@@atriobistro9529 Right on!
Love my st1300. I have only had it for about 4 months and I’m still getting used to it but so far it’s been a blast!
Right on!
i've always been curious as to this configuration (v4) mounted this way .. thx for sharing Jon , looking forward to the ride and review
@@BiGDeE3 I think there are lots of benefits to mounting the V-4 longitudinally. It allows the bike to transition side-to-side quickly, without the gyroscopic effect of the engine internals. Goldwings and many BMWs enjoy this benefit as well. Cheers!
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 thank you brother .. for the input
Great choice of bike Jon and I look forward to the review as am cross shopping an ST vs a FJR for my next rig!
@@356cruzer4 Thanks! The FJR1300 is a great bike as well. I was looking at an FJR as well when I picked this one up. Cheers!
Almost bought 1 of these.... Great Clip!
@@TrailThug Thanks!
Nice Jon! No coffee for me yet, I plan to go back to sleep for a bit. Yeah, the ST is a bike I would consider for my next purchase. I'm looking forward to seeing more about it.
Eric in NC
@user-sh5dy5tr9d Thanks, Eric! I'm already working on more ST content. Cheers!
great bike just think the concours 14 checks few more boxes... great review as always ..great content cheers
@@douglasgrosch228 Thanks, Douglas!
Hi Jon i looked at those once but a little too big for me so i got a nt 700v non abs which suited me better and seemed to be enough power for me as well.
@@ronaldlebowitz7409 Nice, Ronald! It's important to get what fits you and your riding style. Cheers!
Interesting..... I will be investigating this bike.
@@jbtoptc7327 Sounds good. I'll be posting more ST1300 content soon. Cheers!
Great bikes.
@@andrewnewman6510 Right on, Andrew!
Im trying to figure out my next bike for longer rides and 2 up. Eyeing this or maybe a R1200 RT. I haven’t ridden it but it does feel very heavy getting it off the side stand. I love the look of the ST1300s. Great video.
Very cool! The RT is another favorite of mine from a riding standpoint. I think the RT is a bit lighter on its feet (and on the scales). However, the ST has a big power advantage, smoothness advantage, and I'm sure a much lower cost/mile regarding maintenance. Decisions, decisions!
Hello Jon , if an FJR 1300 was also available when you got the ST --- what would be your choice ?
@straightchad8059 Funny you should ask that! There was an FJR with identical mileage, year, and condition that I was looking at when I got the ST. I guess my choice is obvious 😅. The FJR1300 is a great bike, too, though. I hope to feature one on the channel soon. Cheers!
Jon, you didn't mention the mileage.
These have a timing chain.
Looking back at my ownership of a 2006 I'm surprised I did it. Pretty heavy at a stop (heavy overall), top heavy, but very fast and torquey. Yes maint. is a pain. I'd pull it in the basment, strip it naked, and do EVERYTHING it needs for the coming year. Don't want to pull that tupperware twice.
Checked the valves 3 times in 60k+ miles, stayed in spec. No problems other then normal maint.
Seat looks wide and comfy, I think it's a Russell seat.
Overall I like the lightness, simplicity, and cheapness of my current 92 750 Nighthawk. In 5 min the seat, tank, and side covers are off. All you have to do for all maint. Then the biggest...Hydraulic valve adjustment!!
@petev.9357 Hi, Pete! This one has 38k miles (and climbing). You did a great job maintaining your ST1300 - I know since I was the next owner, and it was my winter bike that year 😉! I'm working through the maintenance on this one now. I have two seized fairing bumper bolts preventing me from removing the fairing, so I'll address that this week. The naked bikes are nicer to work on for most jobs. Gotta love the hydraulic valve adjustment!
When you go back together lube those fasteners. Did you get the 2 loose at the very bottom chin of the front fairing? Those seize up too from road spray, right behind the front tire.
@petev.9357 One of those is missing, and the other seems really tight 😕. I'm not happy about it, and will definitely lube them well prior to reassembly.
Hello sir thanks for the video...
I hope you can make a review video about Honda CTX 1300 and compare both of that bike....
@imunknownsource8696 That's a good idea. I have owned the CTX 1300 as well. In short, the CTX is the cruiser version of the ST. If you're a cruiser fan, you may like the CTX better. For me, the ST1300 fits my riding preferences better - it is more comfortable, handles better, has great luggage, better wind protection, more power, better suspension, more features, etc. Cheers!
Very nice bike back in my gold wing riding years uhh gl1000s remember the st1000 also and how different that bike looked at the time
@KennethMayo-h9h Thanks for sharing the memories, Kenneth. Cheers!
I just saw a 2007 st1300 for sale at the Honda dealership, same color, miles, I think was in the 40,000, for 7,999.00, no top box, SW Ohio, Fairfield Honda, they look like a very nice cruiser.
@@indiancreek1570 The ST1300s are great Sport-Tourers. The price seems somewhat steep, though. Cheers!
That motor must be silky smooth and cops use those here on the Highway ,I had linked on my 25 anniversary VfR 800,never noticed it much .That shield is great and 500 mile days would be nothing on that.
Yep, it is a silky-smooth mile-eater! As you said, the linked brakes are pretty invisible from the saddle.
I have ridden a ST 1300, but i owned 2 ST 1100's. So i will be curious as to what you think about this bike.
@flexjay87 Right on! I've also owned multiple ST1100s. I like those bikes as well. The ST1300 has some advantages in lower weight, more power, better shifting, better luggage, and better handling. However, I like the styling of the 1100 better, and I don't care for the complexity of the 1300s linked brakes. Cheers!
The Honda ST models are selling for very very low money in my area these days. It's a grand motorcycle, but perhaps with punitively high insurance costs in Ontario, Canada??
@@wdhewson I don't know what insurance costs are like in Canada, but they're cheap to insure here, thankfully. Cheers!
A nice bike Jon they go pass 100,000 miles with easy when you service the bike I have a question for you…. Is the ST1300 have a belt drive just like the goldwing?? I know you’ll do a great job like your other bikes enjoy your new toy. Sal
Belt on a Wing??
@Mannix2023 Thanks, Sal! I assume you mean a timing belt. I'm pretty sure the ST1300 has gear-driven cams and, therefore, no belt to change. Cheers!
@@Coldwarrior7781 Timing belt.
@@jonsmotorcyclerescueandrev3538 Sorry he said belt driven. My 84 had the T belts but my 06 had chains thank goodness. And an alternator instead of that weak stator. That was a pain.
@@Coldwarrior7781 Right on!
I just bought a 2006 and parked my Vstar 650 a few days ago.
Sadly, I don't want to ride my 650 any more... the ST has much better handling at low & high speed and the engine purrs like the proverbial kitten while giving me the option to comfortably cruise on the highway.
@jetranger47 Right on! That's quite the step up from the V-Star!
I've heard that the heat on the legs is worse on those bikes than most other engine configurations. Can you please comment on that after you do the ride review.
@mr1bienvenu1 That's a great topic suggestion! Engine heat is a problem on almost every fully-faired touring bike, period. Combined with great wind protection, they're just not comfortable to ride if the temp is above 80 degrees F. The Concours 1400 and FJR1300 are just as bad. I will cover this in the review. Cheers!
Owning one and from the ST1300 forum, getting a perfect TB sync goes a long way towards killing the heat. Removing most of the inner fairing gets the rest. I also put on a very low sport windshield and then it was fine in the heat of summer. This bike definitely has an excess of power for high speed hiway running.
@@petev.9357 Those are great suggestions, Pete. Thanks!
I was thinking later in the day that a PERFECT naked bike for you that is only one year newer than this ST1300, is the 2008 Suzuki BKing. I had one and I loved it, but its weight was just too intimidating for my height/weight. I many times had the thought that were I over 6 feet tall and 200 lbs, it would be a great bike for me to have kept. If you find a deal, at least try it out. The gas tank design actually provides a ton of wind protection. I'm not sure about leg room---seat to pegs.
Very cool! I've come close to picking one up (probably should have!). If I can swing a good deal on one, I'll give it a try. Cheers!
I almost bought one of these about two years ago. Fortunately, I talked to a man that serviced these for police departments just before I bought. He described the pitfalls of servicing the worn linked-brake components. It can get expensive.
@@liberals_destroy_everythin2497 Very true. Complexity and expense go hand in hand. Cheers!
Get a low mileage one - you’ll still save a fortune on buying new.
@OzBloke Very true. It's hard to find a new bike with the level of performance, touring capability, and reliability for under $20k these days. These were expensive when new as well. However, just because you can find them used at a good deal, they aren't necessarily cheap to have worked on. Cheers!