@@beerbilly Oh Sorry. I thought in the video I heard the mention that the Black Phoenix sounded different than the 6120. My point was it will. If I recall the Black Phoenix is the same size body as a falcon (17" I believe) opposed to the width of the 6120 which is 16". That makes a difference in tone. Plus if the bracing is different. I have several Gretches all with filtertrons. The Bracing and body size definitely affect the tone. I can see where the Setzer Sig PUP cleans up the tone as I have installed it in a couple of mine where the low end was muddy.
@@mikegraff509 yep there is a huge difference between a falcon and a nashville, especially the scale length. 25.5" on the falcon and 24.6" on the nashvilles. I share tone differences in nashvilles, like my 6120SSU vs 6120 setzer smoke in this vid here th-cam.com/video/ihj1pBYC-Kw/w-d-xo.html
@@beerbilly oh yea and I forgot to mention the thickness of the body. the newer nashvilles are a bit skinner than the 59 models (Smoke). So yea not only scale length but the build is different enough. Its not something I thought about until I ended up with different models. Would use one as a back up and realize my tone shifted. I have an Electromatic that has the A bracing, but is thicker than my 6120 Nashville, I am guessing what ever wood they use is affecting the tone too. The thing is super heavy compared to any of the pro models that I have. However the Setzer Sig PUP and a decent set up got it dialed in much closer to the Pro models tone wise. Hollow bodies are basically acoustics with electronics. So the build really seams to affect tone. Where with solid body guitars I don't notice a tone shift (minimal if any). Again thanks for your video(s), they are always insightful!
prob on the gretsch site. I dont have that guitar anymore. The Phoenix is wired like the other Setzer SSU/SSLVO the split neck pickup just involves a pushpull 500K pot, although this is not a stock wiring job.
Thank you Tavo for the pickup settings........makes all the difference with my TV jones classics. I cannot believe the difference in bite!!! Will the shrunken brain be a production pedal on your web store???????
If we could go back to 2014, I could remember who bought this phoenix from me so I could pay my rent :) :) FWIW I have a coil split on my tele that has a powertron+ in the bridge, and I have the same thing on the Setzer sig bridge of the orange SSU you see in the video. That guitar goes w me to the grave :) I guess the best description of splitting a setzer sig bridge pickup or neck even, is a lean danelectro lipstick meets ricky toaster. Not anemic but jangly and very flat in the mids. Its basically shorting out one of the coils in the pickup w the alnico bar mag underneath. Its greatest strength, if thats possible.. is in the middle position!
I just bought my electromatic g5420t and really wanna throw these on there. They have a nice chime, sound super clear and would probably make a great upgrade to my guitar. I compared a Brian Setzer hot rod with the electromatic and the the pick ups were just so out there and amazing ..they made the black top filtertrons sound dull 😅 thanks for the vid! I play reggae most and have found that rhythm and leaf Licks sound great on a gretsch
Whats also fun about these newer tvjones pkups is that the coils can be split. On their own its not such a great thing as single coils, but in the middle position w both filtertrons split there is a great extra almost vintage ricky thing. You can use a pushpull pot to engage it, no need for extra holes and switches.
thats what this video is about. it came w classics... this video was ten yrs ago. I still have Setzer Sigs in my orange SSU. In my current white falcon I have a Classic+ in the bridge w a setzer sig neck. Classics are blurred more in the lows and a tad more snark in the upper mids. a great pickup for the bridge and w overdrive but I want the setzer sig in the neck for individual string clarity and over all better balance between the strings for dynamics.
+StickyVinny they really dont have enough "gumption" as a single coil..middle position is cool though in unique way. :) Maybe even the neck pickup as single has some merit as a psuedo acoustic guitar thing with a boost pedal employed..
Hi tavo. Just found out your company last night and wow. You have quite the ear. I have a question for you for pickup/ pedal combo is there a way to talk about it with you? Email? Telepathy? Table taps? Lol. Thanks again for the great videos!!
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These signature pickups sound tremendous. I already loved the tone on this guitar and now it is even fuller sounding. Great vid!
Your videos are so helpful. Thanks a million.
Wow, that is some good thick tone! Love it. That shrunken brain sounds amazing!
The tone difference is probably body size. Plus if they have different bracing. Enjoyed the video. Thanks!
its the same guitar, the setzer phoenix but we did a pickup swap. the body size of the guitar nor the bracing was affected in anyway :)
@@beerbilly Oh Sorry. I thought in the video I heard the mention that the Black Phoenix sounded different than the 6120. My point was it will. If I recall the Black Phoenix is the same size body as a falcon (17" I believe) opposed to the width of the 6120 which is 16". That makes a difference in tone. Plus if the bracing is different. I have several Gretches all with filtertrons. The Bracing and body size definitely affect the tone. I can see where the Setzer Sig PUP cleans up the tone as I have installed it in a couple of mine where the low end was muddy.
Oh and BTW love my Detroit Casket!
@@mikegraff509 yep there is a huge difference between a falcon and a nashville, especially the scale length. 25.5" on the falcon and 24.6" on the nashvilles. I share tone differences in nashvilles, like my 6120SSU vs 6120 setzer smoke in this vid here th-cam.com/video/ihj1pBYC-Kw/w-d-xo.html
@@beerbilly oh yea and I forgot to mention the thickness of the body. the newer nashvilles are a bit skinner than the 59 models (Smoke). So yea not only scale length but the build is different enough. Its not something I thought about until I ended up with different models. Would use one as a back up and realize my tone shifted. I have an Electromatic that has the A bracing, but is thicker than my 6120 Nashville, I am guessing what ever wood they use is affecting the tone too. The thing is super heavy compared to any of the pro models that I have. However the Setzer Sig PUP and a decent set up got it dialed in much closer to the Pro models tone wise. Hollow bodies are basically acoustics with electronics. So the build really seams to affect tone. Where with solid body guitars I don't notice a tone shift (minimal if any). Again thanks for your video(s), they are always insightful!
The Setzer's sound fantastic. Great playing!
Great demo, do have the wiring diagram for the wiring in the phoenix? I like the splitted neck pickup
prob on the gretsch site. I dont have that guitar anymore. The Phoenix is wired like the other Setzer SSU/SSLVO the split neck pickup just involves a pushpull 500K pot, although this is not a stock wiring job.
Well done, my friend. I am glad to see you making great videos that inform and give other musicians ideas and techniques to help us. Fantastic!
Planning to buy Brian Stezer set of pickups and put it in my Electromatic G5420,the question is will they fit in,wil they be a direct drop in?
You would want to contact Tauna at Tvjones.com While they have these pickups w a universal mount, I have no idea what is needed by the electromatic
T. I. N Mateus hoping to do the same. Did you end up putting them in?
So how do they compare to the Classics?
Nice demo.
What about the coil split on the neck pickup?
It sounded pretty good :) :)
A great demo! Would have liked to have heard more of the guitar/p'ups straight into the amp.
Thank you Tavo for the pickup settings........makes all the difference with my TV jones classics. I cannot believe the difference in bite!!! Will the shrunken brain be a production pedal on your web store???????
Great demo, Tavo ... thanks for sharing :)
Wow, it's got some real good pop to it on the single notes in the neck position
Didn't get to hear the coil tap! I was kind of looking forward to hearing how that worked out : )
If we could go back to 2014, I could remember who bought this phoenix from me so I could pay my rent :) :) FWIW I have a coil split on my tele that has a powertron+ in the bridge, and I have the same thing on the Setzer sig bridge of the orange SSU you see in the video. That guitar goes w me to the grave :) I guess the best description of splitting a setzer sig bridge pickup or neck even, is a lean danelectro lipstick meets ricky toaster. Not anemic but jangly and very flat in the mids. Its basically shorting out one of the coils in the pickup w the alnico bar mag underneath. Its greatest strength, if thats possible.. is in the middle position!
I just bought my electromatic g5420t and really wanna throw these on there. They have a nice chime, sound super clear and would probably make a great upgrade to my guitar. I compared a Brian Setzer hot rod with the electromatic and the the pick ups were just so out there and amazing ..they made the black top filtertrons sound dull 😅 thanks for the vid! I play reggae most and have found that rhythm and leaf Licks sound great on a gretsch
Whats also fun about these newer tvjones pkups is that the coils can be split. On their own its not such a great thing as single coils, but in the middle position w both filtertrons split there is a great extra almost vintage ricky thing. You can use a pushpull pot to engage it, no need for extra holes and switches.
Thanks for the review tavo...how would they compare to a TV Classic
+Erick Lopez Clearer with more string separation
Are the setzers as bell-like if not more than classic?
Potensio use treble bleed on gretsch ??
How do they compare to the tv classics? I’ve been debating on swapping them out
thats what this video is about. it came w classics... this video was ten yrs ago. I still have Setzer Sigs in my orange SSU. In my current white falcon I have a Classic+ in the bridge w a setzer sig neck. Classics are blurred more in the lows and a tad more snark in the upper mids. a great pickup for the bridge and w overdrive but I want the setzer sig in the neck for individual string clarity and over all better balance between the strings for dynamics.
Hey Tavo, I was thinking about coil splitting my bridge pickup: why do you think there isn't a real reason to split bridge Filtertron pickups?
+StickyVinny they really dont have enough "gumption" as a single coil..middle position is cool though in unique way. :) Maybe even the neck pickup as single has some merit as a psuedo acoustic guitar thing with a boost pedal employed..
they are really thin when they are split. its a fun sound to play with especially w fuzz but... :)
what about the coil tap sound?
what would you like to know about it?
Hi tavo. Just found out your company last night and wow. You have quite the ear. I have a question for you for pickup/ pedal combo is there a way to talk about it with you? Email? Telepathy? Table taps? Lol. Thanks again for the great videos!!
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Hello,I would like to know what gauge strings are in this guitar,010-046,011-049 or what?
Thank you,
+isaia1100 D'Addario 11G nickel rounds
D'addario 10g standard set
Nocturn did you finally change them? ;-)
I live in Ireland, where do I buy the Brain Seltzer?
+Shane O'Dwyer www.thenocturnebrain.com :)
A strap that thin with a hollowbody??? This guys got shoulders of steels
This guitar is lighter than my strat. I hate wide straps :)
@@beerbilly huh I assumed it would be heavy ! My semi hollow is pretty much the same as my strat, but it's no true hollowbody !