I’ve been photographing for over 24 years and can usually tell when actors are faking it. I never got that impression in Lee. It always seemed genuine. Now I know it was.
Winslet is the consummate artisan. I've been taking roll film & digital photographs for over forty years. Pausing one's breath is an age-old technique, & even with image stabilisation in cameras & lenses now, I still hold my breath when taking a hand-held photograph. The film was a masterpiece. I have several of Miller's photographic book compilations - they never get old. TLR's rock !
Kate is the best actress on Earth today incase of skills. She's transformed and transcended to the Danny Day Lewis level since the Mare Of Easttown series.
I think the breathing thing is less about the focus, more about the steadiness when the shutter fires. Films at the time would have been pretty slow i presume, which required a slower shutter speed, which means been able to hold it as steady as possible is vital to a clear image…
The Ilford HP emulsions were available before the war, I have no idea what Lee Miller was using, or if HP was available in roll film at that time though but it could well be she was able to use 400ASA film at that time.
At close distance and wide aperture on medium format, it also is about focus. The depth of field is quite narrow, and if you're trying to keep critical focus on e.g. a person's eye, a little movement in the fore-aft dimension can throw things out.
@@gabedamien Yes, that would be another example, even with a not-so-slow shutter speed. And if you stop down, you'll still lose critical focus in the eye.
Rolleiflex was a camera that was made in Germany for decades. So are Zeiss and Rodenstock and Linhof and Agfa and Leica and Arnold an Richter. When depicting "germans" in movies you shold not forget that part. Especially when forgetting that all sides suffer in wars. So the real issue to prevent a war from happening by not extending one into another. Especially in these days.
Great movie! I loved the way she acts. I am a photojournalist. She has the spirit to focus , observe, feel where she has to take the moment and make pictures in a photojournalistic way. respect. A Document / hommage for Lee ps holding breath is just for holding the camera as stable as possible.. Not for focus.
Photographer with Rolleiflex knockoff (Weltaflex) chiming in: I absolutely could tell Kate was the real deal in this movie. Loved it! The whole movie btw, what a masterpiece!
Wow Went straight to my camera collection, pulled out a twin lens reflex and had a play with it. Beautiful actor. Looking forward to the film Cheers and thanks.
My first camera was my mother's vintage box Brownie and I know that feeling - you had to hold your breath because you hold the camera steady against your body and have to hold your breath to stop the camera shake. Took some great pics with it.
I owned a Rolleiflex f/2.8 back in 1972-74 and used assisting top US PPoA Master wedding photographer / teacher / author Monte Zucker. The advantage of the Rolleiflex back in WWII was that the alternate for photojournalism back then was a 4 x 5 Speed Graphic using sheet film. The need to hold the camera at waist level to see through the viewfinder wasn’t ideal for portraits because it put the taking lens far below the eyes shooting up the nostrils and under chinof the subject which isn’t the most flattering rendering of face. The workaround was to find something like a chair to stand on, or use the focusing frame created by folding down a hinged panel on the front of the focusing hood. For the later models Rollei made a very expense eye level pentaprism , which we used, but it still put the camera’s capture lens about 4” below eye level. Fortunately I got mine at a discount because Rolleiflex sponsored Monte who promoted them in his classes. An advantage of the Twin-Lens Reflex vs SLR was being able to see moment of capture which is blocked by the mirror of an SLR. It would allow us to see if someone blinked and retake the shot.
I'm showingmy age but I've used them - or rather the Maniya C330 'equivalent' - and her use of the camera didn't jar - it looked real enough ! (Except maybe for the low light shots - we don't know how spoiled we are with the 'light grabbing' ability of modern digital cameras and smartphones !!)
Remember though that the leaf shutter in the Rollei and your Mamiya (which I also have) meant much less vibration than an SLR or DSLR would produce in the same circumstances. She would have been able to use relatively long shutter speeds.
@@Tom_TH-cam_stole_my_handle True ! A friend had the 645 and that would damn near jump out of your hand in comparison. And also quick - no waiting for the mirror to bounce out of the way ! Great for portrait work. It's all coming back to me now - they were bloody good even though other 'photographers' would take the pee because they looked 'old fashioned' !! Add - writing this has even brought back the smell of them - always slightly musty from the case !! And opening the foil on a roll of FP4 would have a slight chemical odour too . . . . Modern digital stuff just doesn't have that !!
The focus is not the issue with breathing- it's camera shake and blur. The focus is not nearly as finicky as the shake. The rule is to shoot at 1/125s and use good technique like holding your breath and you'll get a sharp shot.
It seems that Winslet has done a lot of research in the way Miller worked and my feeling is that there is a personal aspect to Winslet's interest in her as well as a professional one. Most photographers of this day and age will run a mile if they saw a TLR with which they had to do serious work.
I'm not sure what they mean by "replica" of a Rolleiflex camera. I mean an actual camera used by Lee Miller is probably a museum piece you would not want to use on the film set. However as used cameras go, despite being old Rolleiflex cameras are readily available and not very expensive.
On the breathing... all photographers know that if you set the shutter speed to 1/125 or 1/250 of a second that freezes subtle movements of both camera and subject. Of course, ISO is slow so...
I have a feeling Lee would have been using a lens hood in that outdoor shot. 1:41 I used my father's Rollei as a prop in my short film noir. And a Ronson Touch Tip lighter of the same type as Bogart's in Maltese Falcon.
These 6x6 cameras are good but one has to make allowances for the slower film speed. Years ago I always used a Rolleiflex and am glad I did, because with modern digital manipulation my pictures stand up really well compared to digital cameras of the present. But not those from a 35mm camera.
I own a Rolleiflex it’s a single lens reflex which means that the image inside the view find gives you a image opposite of subject it’s a studio camera very slow to work with. Take the photos of Robert Capa of the D-Day landings where he used a Leica Camera which gave you 36 frames instead of 12
Capa used a Contax rangefinder, not a Leica. The Rolleiflex is a TLR Twin Lens Reflex, not an SLR, Single Lens Reflex and is certainly not a studio only camera or slow to work with. The image on the focusing screen is laterally reversed, not “image opposite of subject”.
I’m glad so many people are adding corrections to this comment. As someone who has used a Rolleiflex in the field for the last 5-6 years I was losing my mind reading it lol
Who decided to crop Winslet's recreation of women with fire mask and eye shield as a rectangle? The point of Lee's choice to use a Rollei is its square format. Changing that original image to a rectangle is missing the point of that camera and that image.
@ it’s the same camera. It’s a Rolleiflex. They’re all the same. A replica camera is a non-functional camera. The host knows nothing about cameras and neither do you. If they bought a Rolleiflex and painted it or distressed it to make it look like the camera the photographer owned then that doesn’t make it a “replica”. It would be a “tribute camera”.
@@carlosmcseAlthough I agree with you. You still have to remember that the wording are ment for the laymen, not YOU. It is an easy mistake to assume a public statement is ment for you when in fact it was made for laymen so do not fret too much over such.
Why did Kate shoot with a “replica” Rolleiflex? I have an original Rolleiflex which I bought a few years ago and it takes wonderful pictures. You can buy used Rolleiflexs now and I imagine they are less expensive than replicas.
Great film and brilliantly acted. Don’t quite understand reference to using replica Rolleiflex cameras, surely she just used Rolleiflex cameras. Whilst being still and breath control may be ideal at slow speeds I would guess in the moment when everything is happening Lee Miller would have taken the shot rather than wait when push comes to shove.
2:58 Kate: When you dawn gloves you are not permitted to touch your body with them. You may as well leave them off or smash your face on the objects directly.
What? You need to do some research, before posting nonsense. She won numerous awards and received tons of accolades since. Just because someone does not appear on the latest brainless blockbuster movie, does not mean their career "submarined". Of course if you equate career with amount of Dollars earned, OK. To each their own. I can guarantee you, she is not starving.
actually yes it does. when you breathe youre moving the camera with your stomach and that 1 inch change can casuse you to lose focus and in some situations can cause blurry photos due to slow shutter speed. learn the basics yourself before you comment. Ive shot thousands of photos with medium format cameeras
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I’m a simple man, I saw a Rolleiflex in the thumbnail and I clicked on this.
There is something special about using a twinflex camera, the large bright viewfinder image cannot be matched by other systems.
does it have an articulating screen with PDAF so i can film tik tok shorts??????
I’ve been photographing for over 24 years and can usually tell when actors are faking it. I never got that impression in Lee. It always seemed genuine. Now I know it was.
Winslet, ultimate professional and a true gentlewoman 💕💜
Definitely.
A genuine talent for acting but I would love to see more of what she could do with that camera!
Winslet is the consummate artisan. I've been taking roll film & digital photographs for over forty years. Pausing one's breath is an age-old technique, & even with image stabilisation in cameras & lenses now, I still hold my breath when taking a hand-held photograph. The film was a masterpiece. I have several of Miller's photographic book compilations - they never get old. TLR's rock !
Kate just gets better and better as time passes !
She does!
Yep. Lovely woman.
Lee really deepened when she visited the death camps towards the end. Powerful movie.
I have that exact brown case and she's bang on in terms of breathing when taking the picture.
OMG! Kate Winslet played a photographer in a movie, and she actually learned to use……a camera!
Such…….dedication.
Such……realism.
Such…….hollywood.
Kate is the best actress on Earth today incase of skills. She's transformed and transcended to the Danny Day Lewis level since the Mare Of Easttown series.
I don't know, I think Jessica Chastain in Miss Julie in 2014 is probably the greatest female performance ever filmed.
@steveconn I was a fan of Chastain but she will never touch the current verison of Kate, bar none.
The two replies, (so far), make valid points. A good, and courteous debate.
One of the our greatest cameras ever, along with the Leica, Hasselblad, and the Nikon. Kudos to Winslet for getting it right.
Thank God someone in Hollywood is thinking out of the box. I wish more people in Hollywood would get into photography. Thank you Kate.
Kate Winslet is truly an artist’s artist. Clicked on it when I saw the Rolleiflex. My wife uses Yashica TLR’s. TLE’s are wonderful cameras.
I think the breathing thing is less about the focus, more about the steadiness when the shutter fires.
Films at the time would have been pretty slow i presume, which required a slower shutter speed, which means been able to hold it as steady as possible is vital to a clear image…
The Ilford HP emulsions were available before the war, I have no idea what Lee Miller was using, or if HP was available in roll film at that time though but it could well be she was able to use 400ASA film at that time.
Yeah, we're talking about motion blur here. But it does affect focus.
At close distance and wide aperture on medium format, it also is about focus. The depth of field is quite narrow, and if you're trying to keep critical focus on e.g. a person's eye, a little movement in the fore-aft dimension can throw things out.
@@gabedamien Yes, that would be another example, even with a not-so-slow shutter speed. And if you stop down, you'll still lose critical focus in the eye.
Yes its the steadiness - not the focus - but we can forgive her for that
I Have been waiting for this movie for several years
It looks like Kate Winslett was a good choice!
Thanks for spotlighting this… Rolleiflex, a great enduring camera still being used today by many folks (including myself).
Rolleiflex was a camera that was made in Germany for decades. So are Zeiss and Rodenstock and Linhof and Agfa and Leica and Arnold an Richter. When depicting "germans" in movies you shold not forget that part. Especially when forgetting that all sides suffer in wars. So the real issue to prevent a war from happening by not extending one into another. Especially in these days.
Her performance in The Reader is my favorite. To me, it's going to be hard to top.
Great movie! I loved the way she acts. I am a photojournalist. She has the spirit to focus , observe, feel where she has to take the moment and make pictures in a photojournalistic way. respect. A Document / hommage for Lee ps holding breath is just for holding the camera as stable as possible.. Not for focus.
Photographer with Rolleiflex knockoff (Weltaflex) chiming in: I absolutely could tell Kate was the real deal in this movie. Loved it! The whole movie btw, what a masterpiece!
Wow Went straight to my camera collection, pulled out a twin lens reflex and had a play with it. Beautiful actor. Looking forward to the film Cheers and thanks.
My first camera was my mother's vintage box Brownie and I know that feeling - you had to hold your breath because you hold the camera steady against your body and have to hold your breath to stop the camera shake. Took some great pics with it.
I’m so deeply grateful you didn’t put any energy into another string for your bow. We’d be the lesser for it. Your work is splendid!!
I owned a Rolleiflex f/2.8 back in 1972-74 and used assisting top US PPoA Master wedding photographer / teacher / author Monte Zucker.
The advantage of the Rolleiflex back in WWII was that the alternate for photojournalism back then was a 4 x 5 Speed Graphic using sheet film.
The need to hold the camera at waist level to see through the viewfinder wasn’t ideal for portraits because it put the taking lens far below the eyes shooting up the nostrils and under chinof the subject which isn’t the most flattering rendering of face. The workaround was to find something like a chair to stand on, or use the focusing frame created by folding down a hinged panel on the front of the focusing hood.
For the later models Rollei made a very expense eye level pentaprism , which we used, but it still put the camera’s capture lens about 4” below eye level. Fortunately I got mine at a discount because Rolleiflex sponsored Monte who promoted them in his classes. An advantage of the Twin-Lens Reflex vs SLR was being able to see moment of capture which is blocked by the mirror of an SLR. It would allow us to see if someone blinked and retake the shot.
Kate shoots HP5!!! 😮❤
I can’t wait to see it. Love Lees work.
Having seen the film just days ago, Kate was so good in this role..
She was very very good in that film for sure.
Kate portrayed "Lee" perfectly the film was oscar worthy & esp Kates performance
I'm showingmy age but I've used them - or rather the Maniya C330 'equivalent' - and her use of the camera didn't jar - it looked real enough !
(Except maybe for the low light shots - we don't know how spoiled we are with the 'light grabbing' ability of modern digital cameras and smartphones !!)
Remember though that the leaf shutter in the Rollei and your Mamiya (which I also have) meant much less vibration than an SLR or DSLR would produce in the same circumstances. She would have been able to use relatively long shutter speeds.
@@Tom_TH-cam_stole_my_handle True ! A friend had the 645 and that would damn near jump out of your hand in comparison.
And also quick - no waiting for the mirror to bounce out of the way ! Great for portrait work.
It's all coming back to me now - they were bloody good even though other 'photographers' would take the pee because they looked 'old fashioned' !!
Add - writing this has even brought back the smell of them - always slightly musty from the case !! And opening the foil on a roll of FP4 would have a slight chemical odour too . . . .
Modern digital stuff just doesn't have that !!
The focus is not the issue with breathing- it's camera shake and blur. The focus is not nearly as finicky as the shake. The rule is to shoot at 1/125s and use good technique like holding your breath and you'll get a sharp shot.
I think ISO or ASA was as low as 15 and 25 back then -maybe more for B&W.
It seems that Winslet has done a lot of research in the way Miller worked and my feeling is that there is a personal aspect to Winslet's interest in her as well as a professional one. Most photographers of this day and age will run a mile if they saw a TLR with which they had to do serious work.
I'm not sure what they mean by "replica" of a Rolleiflex camera. I mean an actual camera used by Lee Miller is probably a museum piece you would not want to use on the film set. However as used cameras go, despite being old Rolleiflex cameras are readily available and not very expensive.
The twin lens Rolleiflex is a great camera. I inherited mine from my father.
The movie was so good
best kind of photography
Bravo, Kate!
Great film, Kate was fantastic 😁
On the breathing... all photographers know that if you set the shutter speed to 1/125 or 1/250 of a second that freezes subtle movements of both camera and subject. Of course, ISO is slow so...
Are you sure iso were 25... that is crazy i thought it was at least 100 or 200 or even 400
Yes, one does hold one's breath while taking shots with a TLR (twin lens reflex to you young folk). Had a Yashica TLR that I used for a long time.
Someone MUST be making a film about Vivian Maier. She also used a Rolleiflex.
There's not much to the story though. Nobody even saw the photos till she had already passed
I have a feeling Lee would have been using a lens hood in that outdoor shot. 1:41 I used my father's Rollei as a prop in my short film noir. And a Ronson Touch Tip lighter of the same type as Bogart's in Maltese Falcon.
These 6x6 cameras are good but one has to make allowances for the slower film speed. Years ago I always used a Rolleiflex and am glad I did, because with modern digital manipulation my pictures stand up really well compared to digital cameras of the present. But not those from a 35mm camera.
I own a Rolleiflex it’s a single lens reflex which means that the image inside the view find gives you a image opposite of subject it’s a studio camera very slow to work with. Take the photos of Robert Capa of the D-Day landings where he used a Leica Camera which gave you 36 frames instead of 12
Her son finds the photograph’s after she dies so her son is talking to her ghost she. Suffered from Post traumatic syndrome
Rolleiflex are tlrs, not slr.
Also capa used rolleiflex in the field as well, vivian myer as well. Slow yes, but doable in the field.
Capa used a Contax rangefinder, not a Leica. The Rolleiflex is a TLR Twin Lens Reflex, not an SLR, Single Lens Reflex and is certainly not a studio only camera or slow to work with. The image on the focusing screen is laterally reversed, not “image opposite of subject”.
I’m glad so many people are adding corrections to this comment. As someone who has used a Rolleiflex in the field for the last 5-6 years I was losing my mind reading it lol
Brilliant actress
Anyone else prefer the Winslet photo of the women in anti-flash glasses to Lee Miller's version?
Who decided to crop Winslet's recreation of women with fire mask and eye shield as a rectangle? The point of Lee's choice to use a Rollei is its square format. Changing that original image to a rectangle is missing the point of that camera and that image.
It wasn’t a replica. It was a Rolleiflex.
Taking an actual camera and modifying it to emulate the character’s real life camera makes it a replica
@ it’s the same camera. It’s a Rolleiflex. They’re all the same. A replica camera is a non-functional camera. The host knows nothing about cameras and neither do you. If they bought a Rolleiflex and painted it or distressed it to make it look like the camera the photographer owned then that doesn’t make it a “replica”. It would be a “tribute camera”.
@@carlosmcseAlthough I agree with you. You still have to remember that the wording are ment for the laymen, not YOU. It is an easy mistake to assume a public statement is ment for you when in fact it was made for laymen so do not fret too much over such.
Why did Kate shoot with a “replica” Rolleiflex? I have an original Rolleiflex which I bought a few years ago and it takes wonderful pictures. You can buy used Rolleiflexs now and I imagine they are less expensive than replicas.
Look that the video, it’s clearly not a replica
replica as in a replica of the orinial rolleiflex used by the photographer
A used real one runs 400-700 euro.
Great film and brilliantly acted.
Don’t quite understand reference to using replica Rolleiflex cameras, surely she just used Rolleiflex cameras.
Whilst being still and breath control may be ideal at slow speeds I would guess in the moment when everything is happening Lee Miller would have taken the shot rather than wait when push comes to shove.
Lee is usually spelled l e i g h girls
a Rolleiflex, I'm watching.
2:58 Kate: When you dawn gloves you are not permitted to touch your body with them. You may as well leave them off or smash your face on the objects directly.
Wow! I have to find a place where I can see this film. I still have to take my c330 out & shoot a roll.
once again CBS there is a problem with your video. choppy quality. why would somebody want to watch this?
I wonder what those cases were like when new
I think she was a bit old to play Lee Miller. Lee Miller was a risk taker and she was driven.
ever since Titanic her career submarined
while Leonardo soared sky high.
What? You need to do some research, before posting nonsense. She won numerous awards and received tons of accolades since. Just because someone does not appear on the latest brainless blockbuster movie, does not mean their career "submarined". Of course if you equate career with amount of Dollars earned, OK. To each their own. I can guarantee you, she is not starving.
Viviane Mier the movie next.
Why a replica of a Rolleiflex?
I guess what she meant was that she used the same modell as Lee Miller. It doesn't look like a replica.
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DID SHE LEARN?
Moving camera DOES NOT
CHANGE FOCUS, IT CAN ADD BLUR ON SLOWER
SHUTTER SPEEDS.
BASIC CAMERA FUNCTION AND RESULTS
Ermm moving a camera towards or away from a subject on a low apature CAN AND WILL change focus... . maybe stick to what you know before commenting ???
LOUD NOISES
actually yes it does. when you breathe youre moving the camera with your stomach and that 1 inch change can casuse you to lose focus and in some situations can cause blurry photos due to slow shutter speed. learn the basics yourself before you comment. Ive shot thousands of photos with medium format cameeras
Next time she needs to WEAR A MASK in an operating room. 😂
Love this! Photography might as well be her ”plan B” if that acting thing does not work out. We are here for it. -Tuomas/Kamerastore
How did she put herself through such training!? It must have been torture to take a picture without moving.
Oscar 🧹
😂