Redcat Kaiju vs Traxxas 4S Maxx - Value Comparison
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I think it’s kinda funny how we can beat on these trucks that go 45+mph and jump them 15ft in the air. Then complain about having to buy parts to fix them. If I drove my 1987 tamiya blackfoot the way you can drive one of these newer monster trucks it would be destroyed in minutes. Amazing how far Rc has come in the last 10 years.
Scottstoyz that’s the truth, I don’t care what rc you’ve got if you jump it 30’ in the air it’s going to break!! 🙄🙄🙄 the people who think rc technology should be farther also think they should have had their flying DeLorean 5 years ago...🙄🙄
I bought a rc buggy that's comparable to one of the older ones just to get some perspective and experience from where we have came from. It was really eye opening and such a great learning experience. I rec it for anyone to see how much difference there is today and still how much fun and challenge there use to be.
Traxxas is still stuck in the 1980's and 1990's as far as their prices. There are so many alternatives like the Kaiju that are more cost effective.
robert carra Traxxas is the worst $$$$$$ money pit ✅ 20 years of wasting money with that company 😂 insane
I agree my traxxas 3s was a freaking money pit well evry rc are but traxxas are a money pit about upgrades and repairs if you dont upgrade well you will be wrenching a lot... unless you get the maxx who is a well designed for for once from traxxas but you have to pay that big money
Even if the arrma 4s is a bit inferior to the kaiju vs the maxx what i did is i vought the arrma upgraded it until i reached the maxx price point and i have a full tank kraton 4s vs a stock maxx
I don't know why people say this. The Kraton & X-Maxx are damn near the same price but everyone ignores that and gives Arrma a free pass. t least the X-Maxx doesn't bend in half like a taco.
The kraton 8s is the worst of arrma in my opinion but it got a revision to make the chassi more rigid i quess its the V2
Excellent video and comparison. It's a lot more thorough, fair and accurate than some other channels might do in my opinion. Really nice to see an apparently unbiased vid like this. Valuable and refreshing content.
Nice comparison. I have both. I did put the widemaxx kit on the Maxx to make it more drivable. After two runs on both vehicles, I can say that the Maxx has been a bit more durable. I did have an issue with the front turn buckles on the Maxx and the front bumper and front differential cup on my redcat KAIJU. I'll see what happens when I run both of these more. Before installing the widemaxx kit I beat the crap out of it with zero breaks like 5 runs. It's very DURABLE. No doubt the Kaiju is a better value and easier to work on too. I just ha
had bad luck with mine on the first bash.
Great video 👍🏻 Full of good info in the comparison 👍🏻 I hope you have a blast with both of them Bro 👍🏻✌🏻
Ive been in RC for 40 years and currently own an Arrma Typhon and Senton (both are 3S). I just pulled the trigger on the Maxx even though Ive never had much luck with Traxxas. Im hoping the Maxx and XMaxx represent a paradigm shift for Traxxas in that theyre designing for more durability. Time will tell.
Bought mine brand new had a problem with the bladder on one of the shocks was leaking from the factory I have to say that I ran it straight into a power Pole and didn't break anything the bumper is a great added bonus
Like both trucks can't go wrong base on your budget just get upgraded parts and a powerful batteries and charger 🙏🙏🙏🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲💪💪💪
Getting to the diffs on the Maxx is a pita! But once you do it a few times it’s not all that bad. But the design of it is very durable. The Kaiju is an awesome truck and it also is very durable. And for the price it’s such a better value! Both trucks are awesome!!
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that was my assessment as well! But yeah the diff access is intimidating! Not for me like THAT but first glance and the average user!
Have you done the comparison to the 6S Arrma?
I’m on my 3rd drive shaft the big wheel bearing bearing keeps seizing on me and getting hot and causing my drive shaft to snap just keep an eye your bearings on the maxx
Good to know. I had one other person talk to me about that before on a different truck but they were running through the water and if those bearings aren't sealed they can get water in them and get rusty and that will definitely cause the bearing to seize and also calls you other issues. Sealed bearings hold up a little bit better for sure if that may have been your problem as well or could have just been choice of crappy bearings which might be the same thing
Nice review man.
I'd go with the kaiju cause your getting an upgraded traxxas for a decent price
Buy handful of diff cups
@@RCorDIE i ended up with an maxx 4s lmfao parts availability was there so I started ordering parts to build it just need shocks and a servo
@@RCorDIE There are upgrades out there that cover the diff outdrives and solved that issue.
@@cwatson42785 ima have to check that. Im wanting to order the new EXT version, and this seems to be the main weak spot people talk about. Got Arrmas but wanna give ole Red a shot. Lol
@@cbrmike69 Yeah I think they definitely addressed that issue cause it was a known problem. I haven't had any issues with the outdrives with the cup protectors on from extremercprecision who is on Instagram and sells CNC hopups. I really recommend getting a redcat. I love my kaiju and my mt10e that I think it's a better value then the 3s arrmas in the mt10s class. Love the redcats every bit as much as my arrmas. I definitely recommend trying one or both of those trucks. And they are really good with customer support. If you decide to get one message or call Karl (that's who's channel this is) as he will sell them at a discount from msrp and free shipping.
There's no slipper on the maxx I've had mine since October 15 broken one drive shaft I also have the xmaxx and the Erevo 2.0 I like traxxas and call me a fanboy I don't care I believe in traxxas
is it a spool or center diff?
Cush drive fancy name they have put in for bassicly a center diff with 20M diff fluid evero 2.0 maxx and udr are great even if expensive but their 3s line is completly a joke you have to trow a 150$ in driveshafts or they break like sticks
Did you look at the manual for redcat ? There are no parts #s or how to take it apart.
Here, dealer.redcatracing.com/manuals/KAIJU_MANUAL.pdf
www.redcatracing.com/collections/parts-accessories?filters%5Bcustom_fields.Current_Vehicles%5D%5B0%5D=%20Kaiju
@@rccarsandmusic2641 I'm a fan of redcat and rooting for them along with about to buy a kaiju but I find it unacceptable they didn't include a physical copy of a manual. That's one thing I 100% want when buying a rc. So when I go to work on it I have to look at the breakdowns on my small phone screen?
If I were to buy a maxx body would it be too big to be useable on the kaiju? I want to get one of those russian unbreakable bodys from the maxx for my kaiju
They are similar in size, i laid it on the Kaiju and it wasn't looking like a bad fit, just the cage assembly underneath was not letting it lay right.. The mold of it may be just fine
another option is the traxxas also has the traxxas link capability
The only thing I've broken on my maxx is the bulkheads front and back. I assume it's from the chassis hitting the ground during jumps
Hey my friend. Wanted to update my Kaiju vs Maxx 4s comparison. After a few runs. Both of my Kaijus have had issues with the front differential drive cups. The first Kaiju split its cup in half and now my second one is almost broken. First Kaiju broken parts : diff cup, front bumper support. Second Kaiju : Diff cup, servo horn stripped (as expected since it's plastic), wheelie bar set screw damaged on both vehicles (broke in half on one, bent on the other), body will be destroyed in no time (use gorilla tape), broke upper control arm, broke front c hub and steering block. For the Maxx 4s on those same 5 runs : only the body has damage and nothing broke with the same kind of crazy driving. Yes I've spent about $750 on the Maxx, but with all the spare parts that I have spent on the Kaiju, guess what? It's getting to be almost the same price, and the Maxx still drivable every time. If I were to do it again. Yup my vote would be for the Maxx. My opinion 👍
Drive cups, servo horn and bumper totals $350? It may be a pain in the ass to have to deal with but they pricing is far from comparable. Haven't seen that to be a weak spot yet. I will have to keep an eye out to see if it is a repeat occurrence
@@NPCRC I've known of at least 4 people that have had problems with their drive cups too on the front unfortunately. Look at it this way : I've spent over $800 to buy both Kaijus plus parts and both of them managed to break, while I spent $750 on the Maxx, and it has outlasted both Kaijus and it's still driving like a champ. There's no denying that the Maxx is way more durable. I understand the value that the Kaiju offers, but for me, I prefer durability over value. And yes, the Max and xmaxx 8s beat my Arrmas in durability too. I forgot to to mention that I also broke the rear body mount on Kaiju #2, replaced it, and now I the replacement is starting to break again. BTW, most of the runs have been done on 4s too. I still like the Kaiju a lot, but it wouldn't be my first choice if it was to be my only vehicle. All the vehicles break, but some more than others.
@@joseCalderon1976 i have sold 14 Kaiju's and have yet to hear of anyone with that drivecup issue, but i believe you are having that issue.. Crazy how people have different experiences! I have talked to a few that have had issues with the Maxx that led to money spent on it while my Kaiju customers keep posting about how beastly it is! I like that Maxx too, just haven't had any bad experiences like that on the Kaiju... yet
@@NPCRC Who knows my friend, maybe it's just very bad luck from my part!
@@joseCalderon1976 well one thing is for sure, if it is a repetitive issue, we will start seeing more and more repeats of it via my FB group! Alot of guys in there have them.
I have a kaiju, I like it I bought it used for half price then new never heard about it till I saw it on a resale app, it's fun it wheelies it jumps its fast, but parts to fix it are hard to get! Waiting a week now to get upper arms and a diff cup , amazon dosent sell many parts for kaiju had to order thru another rc site seems to be a very week point on upper arms and diff cups so I've seen online motor and esc seem good. If I had maxx I would have the repair parts and upgrade parts in couple days or sooner though, and be driving it now. So redcat parts are hard to come by kind of a bummer.
not normally. That truck ran into covid delays. It was really popular at a time when parts and shipments were hard to get. We would sell out of parts and have to wait a while to get them.. then all the dealers who have access would battle to order stock when they did get their 2 month batch and then within a week, key items were out of stock again. They even bumped up the order after that and we still have parts that are out again. This is more of a demand issue with that truck and all the dealers are in need, so it kills the planned inventory! It will get better!
Great video sir! Get better! Couple comments...
Please compare the Kaiju to BOTH the Arma 4S Outcast as well as the 6S Outcast...not just the 6s. ..because
2. As you stated for $530/550, the Arma Kraron/Outcast or Team Corally Kronos/Dementor are bigger 1/8 trucks ,faster, and generally more truck than the Maxx at the same price point and....
3. While the Kaiju is 6S capable and is only $400. it also, though stated as 1/8, is smaller than the 1/10 Maxx by a hair and smaller than the afore mentioned 6s Armas and Corallys.
Its real value ia that at the Arma 4s and maxx size it offers the Arma price point with similar performance and build quality characteristics-attributes of the more expensive 6s and the maxx. In my opinion anyway. Time will reveal the durability of them all or lack thereof,plastic or not.😉
Keep doing your thing man. You're one of the best!
Thank you very much. I did do the Arma for us comparison which reference to the outcasts being a little bit shorter wheelbase and coming in under the size of the Kaiju. I have the 6s notorious or Outkast coming up as well but that should cover both of those. There's no point of really making another video comparing the outcast for us specifically because I've already covered all these talking points and pretty much it's the same truck minus the few inches on the chassis length dear thank you though for the thoughts and comments.
@@NPCRC Dude. I TOTALLY brain farted the 4S Kraron comp! Sorry man. Yup youve covered it all!!
Also I was set on a Maxx but after watching a few videos I'm sold on the Kaiju.
I have some in stock.. Use links in description of the videos to reach out to me for my unadvertised price if you want
The kaiju is a beast I have it
@@NPCRC where you located I’m interested in a maxx how much would it be ?
@@derekquinones8614 you would have to reach out to get anything better then retail pricing. Not allowed to advertise less and my comments have been called out before. Links to fb and website are in the video descriptions
@@NPCRC how do I get ahold of you directly ?
I have a maxx with wide kit and ive had no problems. Ive had it since November and drove the crap outta it with no breakages. Backflips and big jumps 👍
Nothing stands up stock like the Maxx. You’ll need to pour well over $130 to make that Kaiju as durable as the stock Maxx. I feel like it justifies the price.
Well I haven't Ford anything but about $30 into my Kaiju and it is held up just fine. That's including the upgraded steel pinion and replacing a diff that are broke which I actually got replaced and have a spare lane from Redcat right now. It's also a 6S vehicle with steel shafts. Until you had a Kaiju yourself, it's really hard to say that with full confidence. The guys you parts are very inexpensive and there's nothing even with all the upgrades that are out there that I would put on that would cost $130.... not for a basherr at least
@@NPCRC loving my kaiju but 130 aint hard to spend on it..the hexfly servo is carp.stripped after 10 mins..bought a savox servo/steel spur..that was 110 dollars right there and I didnt stop there either.lol
just because (hexfly) servo didn't meet your specs doesn't mean it's broke & doesn't mean it needs replaced the day you bought the kieju 😂 that's called an unnecessary or (personal) upgrade not a replacement part!!
Yeah regarding the lights, all the demo models with the lights are just that demo units. Add another $99 dollars to the $529 for a total of $628 compared to $399 lights included. TCO at its finest.
I think the only point FOR Traxxas (and I love the new Maxx) is that you get parts for the models for ever. Even for 15 years old Maxxes you will get A-Arms I suppose
Only because the design won't change for the 15 years
How do you like the kaiju compared to the be6s
different trucks but for the money saved, Kaiju is a beast! The BE6S/V-Gen are fully loaded and much more durable overall, but at a higher price tag as well.
I got a kaiju and diff cups break easily. Also had dogbone sheared off and another dogbone piece fell out. This all happened in first 3 runs! Great comparison vid though.
they had a issue with a batch of drive cups. This should have been addressed on the current release of the Kaiju. Redcat also has been warranting them for people who inform them. Haven't heard of any dogbone issues though. Just spur, which there is a steel upgrade for now and the cups, which there are aftermarket rings that go around them and have prevented many people, including myself, of having a reoccurring issue
55mph stock gears maxx on 4s
I was told it needed a gearing change to hit the box speed... sorry for the mis-info then
Yea, it doesn’t do 55mph with the stock 24t pinion. I did many speed runs when mine was box stock and my top speed was 47mph completely stock.
What team corally 1/6 scale?
They are 1/8
parts support for the Kaiju concerns me
It was a new truck.. they had only had 1 shipment of parts and trucks in up until this week. Monday they got more trucks and many more parts. Parts are instock with redcat and should not be a concern at this point. If any shipments from here get delayed, that may change future stock but that will be true across the board
I have been out of the hobby for a few years and dusting off the old cars/rebuilding them this winter in preparation for next summer. I would like a large new truck and it has been narrowed down to between these two. I am not a huge fan of Traxxas (have a built Pede) because their sue-happy nature hurt the hobby as a whole, so why support them? However, I won't deny the idea of purchasing one used or entertain the idea of buying new, just not happy with them for a while. They are bullies. Researching shows both to be tough and in my opinion, the RedCat is the best value hands down. With that said, I think Traxxas will have the best long-term parts support and aftermarket accessories.
The kaizoo is a great truck for the money. A lot of people had it now and we've gotten past the initial factory issue of some of the drive cups being weakened. They've also just announced they are bringing out the EXT model which is an extended wheelbase trugthen it will be struggle. Belted tires and more durable plastic, not that there was a huge issue with that on the truck
Maxx 👊🏻
i could care less about high speeds on my super china monster truck i wished it was slower at times
Redcat looks better an is better
Durability and parts availability maxx all the way
No, the maxx 4s use center diff with a cush drive, the cush drive really can cancell out harmful power going through the drivetrain, It's very good for people who don't know how to jump they're truggy and land on the gound with power, me myself I have no drivetrain problem since day one (own my maxx half year ago).
I nvr understand y wen people make videos they nvr get str8 to the point!! They always start off wit useless bs!! Who cares man!!
Traxxis is junk, they using pot metal for their metal parts. They also bully hobby shops, to selling only their parts for traxxis.Hobby shops can’t carry outside brands for replacement or upgrading parts. Traxxis needs to just go be a Walmart brand model !!! I have a traxxis , I can’t think of anyone to give it away to. Without feeling some kinda guilt of passing such a burden off!! Let’s stop buying shit products from traxxis folks! Only way to teach them a lesson. Cause a drop in sales!!!
And the traxxas maxx is only over priced by 250.00 you can keep your traxxas over priced junk
Blind hate is a fool's game. Over time the Maxx will cost less to run than the Kaiju- or at least if you keep the Kaiju running and bashing like the Maxx will over time. You still get what you pay for. The Kaiju is fun- but it's not proven, and certainly doesn't have as nice of engineering as the Traxxas stuff.
McDingus i never said anything about the kaiju i said traxxas is way over priced! Ive owned a few traxxas cars back when they were priced with the other companies and had nothing but trouble with them! They have junk plastic axles and their electronics are garbage! Their Quality does not come near their price! So its not blind hate its experience ive been in the hobby over 35yrs! Our local hobby shop wont sell traxxas anymore because he got tired of the complaints! So you can keep your traxxas and i hope you have better luck with them
@@jameshankssr466- correct, you said nothing about the Kaiju, but you are implying that Traxxas is overpriced compared to their competition. So, I used the Kaiju as an example. Unfortunately for your argument, when you start comparing apples to apples- Traxxas is usually not priced all that much above any direct competition. Especially when you factor in things like parts availability and customer service/ overall product support.
And in response to your claims of "junk plastic axles"- I think you haven't learned much in your 35 years in RC. Their are good plastics and bad plastics out there. Just because they are plastic doesn't make them bad. In fact, it helps improve durability and performance in some areas, and it also keeps costs down. I don't know what models you are specifically referring to- but I'm sure you know this has been an issue with other manufacturers as well. And if you expect top level electronics in your RTR vehicle- be prepared to pay the price. Personally I don't have many problems with their more modern esc's and motors- but I'm sure the earlier systems were not too great comparatively.
Just for the record, I am not a Traxxas fanboy. For the most part I buy kits because I like to build them and I also like to get specific electronic components. But Traxxas is the top dog for a reason- and when it comes to bashers they have a far better reputation than what your hobby shop is claiming. My guess is that your hobby shop is anti- Traxxas because they can't make as good of margins on Traxxas stuff because they have too much competition online and locally. My LHS loves Traxxas because they sell a shit ton of it. In fact- so much so that he sells it for less than you can get it online. And it's awful nice to know that I can get almost any part I need with a 5 minute drive down the road.
McDingus you claim your not a traxxas fanboy! Yes you are i can tell theres no talking to you about traxxas unless its positive but Unfortunately i have nothing positive to say about them so have a nice day and stay safe with this corona crap going around!
@@jameshankssr466 Actually, vague comments trying to bash any manufacturer is usually what sets me off. Just making a random comment about something sucking is a completely unfair and quite frankly ignorant thing to do in TH-cam comments sections. If you're gonna take the time to bash something- at least have the cajones to make a point that shows your point of view.
You obviously don't own a Maxx so I don't know how you thought you could make an informed comment about it in the first place.
Know atleast something before making a video…
How do you do a value comparison on two trucks and every other thing that you compare is followed by you saying "I'm not sure" or "it might be" . Probably might be maybe I don't know. If it's intimidating to you that might be problem seeing as how you are claiming that you are an expert who is qualified to give value comparison's on stuff you keep saying that you don't know a lot about and are intimidated by. LOL!! GIVE IT TO ME,GIVE IT TO ME!! LOL......
You're talking about what would be called a review. Most people when new trucks come out aren't too sure about them when they do the unboxing and comparisons pre run. There are plenty of post run reviews including 1 or 2 by myself if you ever cared to look
In 5 years one of these trucks you won't be able to get parts for anymor3,guess which one
Well considering the Kaiju is out of the team associated Factory and red cat keeps their product support for two to three years after discontinuing the truck I would say this truck is going to be around for at least 5 years and then have a support of longer than that so if you're trying to say that the red cat won't have support you're dead wrong but thanks for your input
@@NPCRC i own associated cars i can no longer get parts for and red cat has models they've already stopped supporting
@@tronarat name a couple models that Redcat is still not supporting? You can go into legacy mode on red Cats website and find cars that have been discontinued since I've been a dealer in still have parts for
I have been saving a few dollars here and there for the last 6 years planning on buying an xmaxx. I will have enough money in 5days however i am still unsure if i want to spend 1400$cdn before batterys charger and a new esc. I would argue that best bang for your buck should also include resell value.i know i could take that maxx and add a few things and have the most durable truck available. But could i do that with the redcat truck. By durable i mean hitting a 10foot jump full out going 30-50feet in the air repeatedly with not many issues. If you have not watched a kevin talbot video id say everyone should. Redcat needs to send that guy a truck to review if they wanted to get noticed.
@@shawncool5496thats alot, not sure how that translates but i have the Kaiju, 2 batteries (5200mah 50c) and charger from 45 to 90 that would do the trick and total would be 515 - 560 USD plus some added shipping factoring Canada shipment
A kaiju isnt half as strong as a maxx.
maybe XMAXX. That Kaiju is tough. Have you ever driven one or just heard it from a friend who?