When Carnivore Is Not Enough: Case Studies of Supplementation

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  • @Rick-zw7zv
    @Rick-zw7zv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    This is the only channel that discusses the nutritional challenges of a carnivore diet. Well done.

  • @mattdarwin6497
    @mattdarwin6497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    As a very ill, 24 year old male with POTS and thiamine deficiency, carnivore made me much worse. I had a very informative consult with Elliot a few weeks back, and he helped me tweak my thiamine dosage as well as my diet and other supplements. Thiamine alone has eliminated my muscle pain and has greatly decreased my anxiety. I still have some other issues I’m working to fix, but I’m feeling much better. Love the videos, keep up the great work!

    • @michael_mathieu_vibrant_health
      @michael_mathieu_vibrant_health 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Matt Darwin i’m curious if you could be more descriptive of your muscle pain. I have had progressive what I call “muscle crunchiness“which sometimes is felt like I have tiny little pieces of milk jug plastic embedded into my muscles. I have been on a B complex which has Benfotiamine for three weeks and Alithiamine for two weeks and my muscles seem to be feeling better. I am also working with Elliot. It’s interesting for me that when I started carnivore I was taking 8 g of sodium ascorbate per day and my stools got the most form they’ve been in a long time. I started getting loose stools about six weeks ago and when I met with Elliot he told me that he had clients whose diarrhea went away when they started taking ascorbic acid. It was then that I realized that my loose stools started about the same time I stopped my ascorbic acid because I was concerned of an oxalate problem… That is, vitamin C being converted into oxalates.

    • @mattdarwin6497
      @mattdarwin6497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Michael Mathieu Healing My muscle pain feels like lactic acid buildup. Almost kind of bruised. Like someone hit my legs with a baseball bat.

    • @deskjockie4948
      @deskjockie4948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@michael_mathieu_vibrant_health This sounds like oxalate crystals. Have you researched the subject of oxalates? Sally K. Norton has suggested that those with a high oxalate load should be cautious when going carnivore due to the body "oxalate dumping".

    • @ellenorbjornsdottir1166
      @ellenorbjornsdottir1166 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chronic beriberi? Holy fuck

    • @mp7925
      @mp7925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Looks to me from description you already had myriad of problems and lack of vitamins/minerals. I'm just starting carnivore and will take anyway at least some supplements (for sure D3, magnesium, ...), but I'm wondering if you started to eat also organ meats with your carnivore. Also could be you have some genetic problem with vitamins absorption and that is hardly to be fault of carnivore.

  • @aheadofcabbage7204
    @aheadofcabbage7204 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Great video! 60 year old male, meat based high fat for two years. Experienced massive and rapid health improvements. My only problem for a while ( about a year ) was constipations, yes quite severe a few times. I desided that it must have been the results of my previous 58 of mistreating my gut system. Desided to stick with my diet, make sure to keep up my salt and electrolyte intake and with the help of laxatives at times. Glad I stayed the course and not return to fibers. It took about a year, and now my no2 is daily and perfect. So yes, it's possible to heal even at my age.

  • @whatta1501
    @whatta1501 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That's me. I haven't healed on carnivore as much as i see others have. I even developed joint pain and other symptoms.I'm so glad i find myself here. Thank you for this.

    • @jeanpaulorl
      @jeanpaulorl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are u still on carnivor?

    • @whatta1501
      @whatta1501 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @jeanpaulorl Yes, i finally discovered that butter was the cause of my joint and side pain. I started making homemade ghee from butter, and i'm okay now.

    • @jeanpaulorl
      @jeanpaulorl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@whatta1501 i am soooo low in energy idk what to do. 2weeks in carnivor and i am dying...
      I am trying alot of salt fat but still nothing idk

    • @whatta1501
      @whatta1501 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @jeanpaulorl hmm, make sure you don't have any dairy or egg allergies like i did. Drink some electrolytes or make your own. Figure out what your body likes from fat and protein amounts. Maybe it's that you are detoxing or dumping oxolates. Drinking regular black tea daily can help with the oxalate dumping. Or you can be going through a histamine reaction. Cook your meat from frozen, and don't let it set out. You can take a DAO supplement for histamine reaction or order dessicated kidney to supplement. Try Bile Acid in case your bladder is having problems digesting the fat or try an HCL supplement to help you digest, carbs, proteins, and fats. I've just recently added Lugol's 2% iodine, ten drops a day. Start with three drops, then increase. Maybe you can take it with coffee or tea in the morning. Don't give up, though I've stuck to it in spite of the challenges. It's the best. Did you start out slowly decreasing your carbs? That could be it, too. Your body needs to become fat adapted. That's all i can think of from what i've had to try. Good luck you're on the right track. 👣 Remember, if you get constipated, you aren't eating enough fat. If you get the runs, it's too much fat. I take a liver supplement that helps with energy.

    • @authorgirlpetparent
      @authorgirlpetparent 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jeanpaulorl 2 weeks is nothing- it takes many weeks to become fully fat adapted. Also, your body needs/uses energy to cleanse and heal ESP if you're coming from a SAD diet. Your body is asking you to rest while that happens.

  • @Gracenglory5
    @Gracenglory5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You are a godsend! Although I’ve been doing lots of supplements whilst on this diet I haven’t found the right mix yet. Been on this diet with supplements for a year. You are the ONLY person who admits carnivore isn’t enough! I’ve literally felt so alone because I have not experienced anything like all the thousands of others have. “You’re doing the diet wrong” is the only response you get when admitting there’s no significant benefit. In the contrary, debilitating symptoms remain. Thank you so much for addressing this issue! Im binge watching all your vids!

  • @Supergirl-ey6fq
    @Supergirl-ey6fq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I am case 2. I’ve been dragging through life the last two years , this stops now. Thank you Elliot

  • @wrightohn3
    @wrightohn3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I took a B12 yesterday, after listening to this and the immediate result to my tired muscles was dramatic. I can't thank you enough.

    • @dianavp9054
      @dianavp9054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you mind sharing which formula B12 you took and how much? Thanks!

    • @wrightohn3
      @wrightohn3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dianavp9054 Super B-Complex - Methylated Sustained Release B Complex & Vitamin C, Folate & Methylcobalamin, Vegan, 60 Small Tablets. It's a 30 day supply, [Amazon subsription] they suggest 2 tablets per day but I only do one per day. That's the actual product description so you could go find it and read the label for all the other stuff.

  • @oscarcampbell1242
    @oscarcampbell1242 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    "Plain common" carnivore diet (nose-to-tail'ish + eggs) has helped me so fantastically in ways I couldn't have imagined possible! That said - there are people who are even more unlucky with regards to their bodily system's dysfunction. Each to their own! I'm glad to see this video - it keeps the mind open and helps us all not doing "bear service" to friends and family promoting carnivore as a "be all, end all" solution (like vegans). Keep it up!

    • @TheJocelynrae
      @TheJocelynrae 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      One of the big problems I have with a lot of the big carnivore groups is that they say that organ meat is totally unnecessary. That's where the micronutrients are in the highest concentration, and good quality organ meats certainly cost less than good quality ribeye. I think a lot of people struggling in carnivore would benefit greatly from going nose-to-tail rather than muscle-meat-only. And it only makes sense that people who have destroyed absorption or specific deficiencies for one reason or another could solve their health problems with proper additional supplementation.
      I hope the carnivore community matures into one that realizes that while there is a general human diet, individuals need their own specific tweaks and additions for optimal health.

    • @mistersir3020
      @mistersir3020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think normally every human should be able to thrive on an omnivore diet.
      Question is, what's your vitamin D status? Did your history fuck up the microbiome and other parts of your body? Are your stores empty?
      Supplements are necessary to recover from years of built-up deficiencies, maybe even from the time before you were born.

  • @ianjones8777
    @ianjones8777 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I've been carnivore for two years. Feeling good, no regrets. Some minor problems with my tummy but otherwise very pleased. After having seen your TH-cam vids I decided to try the b1, b-complex together with magnesium and potassium.
    Wow! The tummy problem vanished overnight, but not only that, I have got so much more energy! I'm 56 and I can't remember ever feeling so good. Thank you so much for the info.

    • @Adam-yd8dw
      @Adam-yd8dw ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Were you eating any organ meats before? Liver contains many B vitamins

  • @Anita-silver
    @Anita-silver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    A much needed video and an important addition to the carnivore conversation. I would love to see more of these case studies. Thank you.

  • @DogHonest
    @DogHonest ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am one of your more recent success stories. I will be a resident physician in a few months diagnosed myself with Barry Barry with your advice, started taking bento timing and my life is changing daily.

    • @chumnutzly
      @chumnutzly 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If you're gonna be a doctor you may wanna work on your spelling lol.

  • @strl
    @strl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    It`s the most important and comprehensive video in a whole youtube!!! You really save people. Thank you soooo much 🙏

  • @sofiavolkova3937
    @sofiavolkova3937 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You're so right Eilliot.
    After i went carnivore for about 3 months, i started to get bruises for unknown reasons. Constipation was so bad (7 days) I got pins and needles in my legs and spine. My nails become weaker and other low thyroid symptoms appeared. I didn't have any thyroid issues prior to diet change.
    After obtaining a dna analysis and further research, i started supplementing selenium, iodine, magnesium, potassium, b complex and vitamin c.... feeling much better now. I am about to start supplement ttfd hopefully it will help with my ADHD symptoms. Keep doing the great work Elliot

    • @YesPlease1
      @YesPlease1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Carnivore diet lacks fiber. Fiber is necessary for healthy intestines and bowel movements.
      Additionally, meat feeds the omega 6 inflammatory pathway by creating arachidonic acid. Also creates acidic urine, etc.
      Eat plants. I promise you the humans optimal diet is not the carnivore diet.

    • @HappyJiyoung
      @HappyJiyoung 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oxalate dumping?

    • @StrongBodyandMind33
      @StrongBodyandMind33 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You needed more fat in your diet 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @karlwagner2223
    @karlwagner2223 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Lugol's iodine -> necessary. Vitamin C -> necessary (we don't produce it, like most animals do). Magnesium -> necessary. L-Lysine -> necessary. None of these are sufficient in the meat, because the land is not the same land as it was 100 years ago. So cows and other herbivores we eat, feed on a sub-optimal grass and that is a big problem. I agree with you 100%, Elliot!

    • @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284
      @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You just enlightened me. I used to have massive issues with cold sores. Then it appeared to be resolved, but recently I've had relapse. My mother reminded me that the treatment of cold sores is lysine, so I hit it.
      Cold sores stopped. I only use it when I feel that inevitable sensation, but maybe I should take it regularly.
      I had no idea that lysine is missing from carnivore until this post. Thanks!

    • @Dan0rioN
      @Dan0rioN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I hypothesize that healthy/functional animals would contain these essential nutrients, outside of vitamin C

    • @kwagnert
      @kwagnert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Dan0rioN as I mentioned, it depends on the land. If the land is not optimal, the animals won't be optimal.

    • @Dan0rioN
      @Dan0rioN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kwagnert My point is that most these animals aren't showing signs of illness & therefor likely sufficient in their key nutrients... If we were being served animals dying of illness then yes, that would be very alarming..

    • @eminemilly
      @eminemilly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Interesting i have all of those except vitamin c which i eat a few plants I'm just very meat based. I haven't taken tbe l lysine and magnesium in a while but i really think i should start those and thiamine again

  • @777looking
    @777looking ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would love to see more of this type of video with case studies!

  • @sherilcarey7100
    @sherilcarey7100 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "You're doing the diet wrong." That's what it always comes down to from practitioners who can't (or don't want to) help people who are truly sick. It's a bad sign. Since I see this happening even with much better dietary choices nowadays I tend to think that lots of people are finding these good ideas and it's easier to find practitioners who can recognize that and support and advocate for these better ideas but still incredibly rare to find a practitioner who is a great clinician and truly wise in their reasoning making them able to help those with complex illness or complex imbalance.

  • @kevinadamson5768
    @kevinadamson5768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brilliant young doctor who actually listens to his patients.

    • @chumnutzly
      @chumnutzly 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is he a doctor? I thought he was a nutritionist

    • @Acts-1322
      @Acts-1322 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@chumnutzly yeah, definitely not a doctor. But he certainly knows more than most in this area

  • @Eudaimonia239
    @Eudaimonia239 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Glad this came in my feed, every person has a nutrient requirement and status that its different depending on their lifestyle(stress, fitness, previous diet, diseases, etc. ).In my case it was b vitamin deficiency due to previous years of eating too much carbs, and overcooking my meats. After supplmenting with b1 and b2 plus a methylated b complex symptoms improved and I feel great now. look up to chris masterjohn to learn about this, and when you do, you realize nutrition is more complex than people like to think, just eating muscle meat is simplistic and misleading.

  • @Kiwibirdm8
    @Kiwibirdm8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Elloit. So I was carnivore about a year and then went back to eating carbs. It was begining of summer and I had an acute pyscosis I broke my leg in a stupid accident which was my a result of being in pyscosis. I was living in mold and stopped drinking alchole believe I was detoxing too fast. I know now that I have been suffering from B1 deficency my whole life. As a young teen I was bulimic. I am 46years old now and as a youth I had mercury fillings. As I understand it mercury will block the receptor sights for cells. I am so excited to order your product. Thank you for your work!

  • @hegelianismus
    @hegelianismus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Elliot, this video of yours is invaluable! I am binge watching your content from time to time, as I am also suffering a bit on pure carnivore. Your content is the most helpful in the carnivore community. What is brilliant about your approach is that you are able to customize your advice to individual needs. And your solutions work so quickly it is absolutely worth a try. I still have chronic fatigue and the new issue on carnivore is rapid hair loss and skin inflammation. Trying out the thiamine and biotin approach of yours this week. If you ever wrote a book or did a series on case studies I would definitely buy it! Good luck to you in your mission.

  • @totallyraw1313
    @totallyraw1313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Good video, I think people like Bart Kay who say that no one needs vitamin C on the carnivore diet is harming a lot of people. Also, I think that thiamin deficiency is quite common in people on the carnivore diet who do not eat pork as there is not much thiamin in beef and lamb

  • @billiemunn
    @billiemunn 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for your balanced point of view, Elliot.

  • @JohnBlatt71
    @JohnBlatt71 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I am definitely a fan of proper supplementation. There are certain nutrients that just aren't in our soils and in our environment anymore in sufficient quantities. Boron and iodine are good examples of this. Regardless of the diet some nutrients are lacking.
    I've also found that before going carnivore, especially if one was a vegetarian or vegan for any length of time, that some nutrients become severely depleted and even though the carnivore diet is the most nutrient dense it may not rectify the deficiencies by diet alone, and then people blame the diet as bad or not hood enough.
    I've also have found that many people are toxicly high in some minerals coming into a carnivore diet (a good example of this are ex-vegans /ex-vegetarians with very high copper toxicity which creates problems with the proper zinc/copper balances). Its one of the reasons why many ex-vegans can't stand the taste of meat (because of low zinc/toxicly high copper levels) and then blame the meat.

    • @A1Bokeh
      @A1Bokeh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Any specific supps you reccomend?

    • @sannamuh985
      @sannamuh985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Druid RavenScout What about high zinc and low copper in carnivores?

    • @JohnBlatt71
      @JohnBlatt71 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@A1Bokeh besides B1 and its co-factors (B Complex and Magnesium) I recommend iodine (Lugols'), Selenium, boron, molybdenum, tocotrienols, and L-Carnitine on Carnivore. Especially if you are coming off of a standard American diet, vegan or fruitarian diet. You also might want to take a collagen peptide (if you are older) in the beginning (for a few months) with ascorbic acid (or better liposomal C). The longer you are on a strict carnivore (low or zero carb) the less supplementation you will need and the goal is to get off of most supplements. But with heavy metals, toxic halides, and soil demineralization I believe we should continue some supplementation.

    • @A1Bokeh
      @A1Bokeh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @John Blatt man very interesting and somewhat complicated

  • @clarkmaurer
    @clarkmaurer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Not surprised that supplements are sometimes needed. Great video and very interesting.

  • @a.macdonald4877
    @a.macdonald4877 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Unfortunately in the world we live in we are exposed to unnatural foods, toxins, chemicals, radiation, etc. and this may call for unnatural means. Your doing great work, l look forward to watching all your presentations

  • @No_Frills_Carnivore
    @No_Frills_Carnivore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've been carnivore since 10/12/2019 and I do supplement. I feel like I need to because I have hypothyroidism and lifelong epilepsy. I do a lot of research on both of my issues, take what I believe will help me and it works for me, and I don't mind! It's better than eating the standard diet.

    • @misteryz573
      @misteryz573 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check the EBV Epstein-Barr Virus. It attacks the thyroid gland, eats the cartilage of the joints, prostate,
      Chronic fatigue Etc..
      Heavy metals

  • @mucotessi1178
    @mucotessi1178 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ohhh God , i discover this channel today on your intervew with dr Sandeep Gupta , i m so suprised you re talking on topics others dr dont talk about , am so gratefull, i hope i will get solution here only

  • @cankerbloom9015
    @cankerbloom9015 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This channel is a revelation. Thank you for a balanced considered viewpoint

  • @Governemntistheproblem
    @Governemntistheproblem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video Eliott, as always, you give people hope. Keep up the good work.

  • @greenfield1944
    @greenfield1944 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of your best Elliot , you explained the conversion of food to energy very well.

  • @merriemelodies7830
    @merriemelodies7830 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am relieved to hear you support supplementation for I had never considered doing without them; I just never felt diet alone offered enough nutrition eating carnivorously.

    • @kara6177
      @kara6177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. If you’re sicker than an average human you need more healing methods to get better

  • @laurelandrews6134
    @laurelandrews6134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks! Good insight re not being too dogmatic re any one method or prescribed way of eating. Have to look at what the individual 'story' is telling us.
    Keep digging!

  • @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284
    @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I *must* take vitamin C. I must. I began carnivore without any supplements and that was great for a few months, then I started to get sick again. The autoimmune symptoms were under control, but I was so damn tired. Brain fog. Fibro pain all over. Diarrhea. My gums were the most alarming symptom. I'm pretty religious about oral hygiene and there was nothing I could do to stop the receding and bleeding. After a month of this I began bruising terribly and the tiniest cut would bleed for hours.
    That's what drove me to try the C. Within DAYS my symptoms lifted. It took about a month or two for the bruises to totally fade, but I wasn't bleeding so bad and had no new bruises.
    Then I did a trial without C. I changed up my diet to make it more nutrient dense. This time I didn't even make it a month before symptoms appeared.
    Finally... and this is stupid... I just forgot to take my C. I ran out, forgot to order more and didn't think about it. This was a repeat of the first time. Only when the bruises appeared and my gums began to fall apart did it dawn on me what I'd done. Again, bounced right back.
    I'm also finding that I do better with thiamine. This one is weird. My mother, children, and myself have tested thiamine deficient many times. (No. This has nothing to do with alcohol. My mother has been a teetotaler her whole life and my children had this problem when they were little.)
    I blamed thiamine blockers that the kids and I were eating in our diet, but that never really added up. My mom's diet is completely different from ours. I didn't think I'd need it on carnivore and went without for a year.
    My small fiber neuropathy has been getting steadily worse for all this time. In desperation I tried taking 500mg thiamine twice a day like I used to. And shocker. The neuropathy improved within a couple of days. Adding a GABA pill twice a day to that has improved my neuropathy more than anything else I've tried. It's such a relief to have a break from the static and electric shocks!

    • @EONutrition
      @EONutrition  4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Excellent testimonial! I have seen a few people with what you would describe as "subclinical scurvy" - excess bruising, bleeding gums, broken blood vessels on carnivore. When we add in pure vitamin C - it disappears.
      The way I see it is: We live in a freaking toxic world with a bunch of factors which deplete us nutritionally. In an ideal scenario and natural setting, we would be able to get enough nutrients purely from food. However, we live in a toxic soup! Hence, some people just need a lot more than other people, and in some cases it is a lot more than can be gotten from food.

    • @cabolynn
      @cabolynn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Me too, I must take my ascorbic acid because it's a redox balancer and a double electron donor, as I have learned from the research of Doris Loh.

    • @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284
      @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@EONutrition You're 100% right about the environment.
      One other thing to consider is that we just *can't* 'eat nose to tail' in the US. I don't have a butcher for 75 miles and they are insanely expensive. The supermarket doesn't have much more than muscle meat and liver. Heck, I can't even get bones for my dog in this town, marrow for broth, or ox tail.
      That means that all of the other parts - that beautiful caul around the organs, eye balls, lungs (illegal in the US), blood, kidneys, endocrine organs, etc that our ancestors ate just aren't available. I have to go to the city to get wild caught salmon - that's been frozen for lord knows how long and was caught Lord knows where. You can forget finding a variety of seafood in the desert.
      When we do get these things, it's infrequent. Not a normal part of our weekly diet plan.

    • @jeremyr7147
      @jeremyr7147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I have never taken any in yr and a half on primal carnivore. All previous signs of vit c dificiency, that i realized i was living with have gone away. No more bleeding gums after 15+ yrs.. excellent oral condition. Odd!

    • @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284
      @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jeremyr7147 I'm so glad it worked for you. I believe that it works for most people.
      But some of us may need more. It didn't work for me.

  • @miriam2909
    @miriam2909 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just found your channel yesterday! Searched seb dermatitis on keto. I'm so glad ! So clear and concise and I've already shared videos. Tyty

  • @DarkMoonDroid
    @DarkMoonDroid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    13:12
    You used 2 words which I've been thinking alot about lately: "demonizing" and "religious".
    When it comes to food and diet, people are strangely willing to go to war over it.
    It's completely irrational.
    I find myself in a defensive position with nearly everyone about it and I'm sick to death of it.
    _I'm here to learn and try things and see what happens._
    *That* is science.
    Fearing information because it contradicts your previous understanding is what most people hate religion for and yet they end up repeating its worst characteristic anyway.
    Done with the Food Wars.
    Thank you for insisting upon this.
    Sub'd.

  • @michael_mathieu_vibrant_health
    @michael_mathieu_vibrant_health 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Another great video Elliot! So glad to see this video I was planning on asking you to share some case studies so this is perfect!

    • @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284
      @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would love to see more of this, too

    • @WillowTube
      @WillowTube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree, various case studies are great for people to relate too. When everyone is enjoying benefits that you aren't getting it can really isolate you because no one talks about the downside while they're all jumping on the latest craze. Elliot being real about the pitfalls and why it may not work for everyone is what made me want to work with him.

  • @-AwaleAbdi-
    @-AwaleAbdi- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If someone was born and raised in an ideal environment then, ideally, their likelihood of ever needing supplementation of any kind is probably close to zip but how many people is that nowadays? Almost none, really. I'm talking about someone who's mother was eating a nutrient dense, low toxin diet her whole life, who has a perfect skeletal form and could easily give birth to them the natural way then exposed them to her healthy gut-microbiome on her way out and who breast-fed them for up to 2-3 years then weaned them off slowly on things like pastured organ and muscle meats, fresh out of the udder raw milk, wild-caught seafood and if she ever exposed them to plant-foods outside of unsprayed and organic fruits she used fermented stuff like sourdough bread or sauerkraut and this person just grew up filled to the brim with nutrients, low on toxins and a luckily with a healthy microbiome. That's probably 0.1% of the population nowadays so with such _unnatural_ and depleted people walking around some unnatural solutions are understandably needed.
    Carnivore and other such dietary interventions should principally be about improving one's health, not being dogmatic like with Veganism. This is not and should never be about ideology.

    • @EONutrition
      @EONutrition  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Couldn't have said it better myself

  • @Eimerej
    @Eimerej 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great, Great, Great, video! Looking forward to more like it!
    Thx!

  • @JacoMyburgh
    @JacoMyburgh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic information. Please do more of the case study videos.

  • @Carmella91
    @Carmella91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing info, really loving these videos and finding them so helpful! As someone that’s new to the keto/carnivore world, I do see a lot of bashing on supplements and was starting to feel guilty as I went to my supplement cabinet each day…my question is-with enough time and healing did your patients ween off of the higher doses or be able to stop altogether once they truly fixed the deficiency? Meaning that their carnivore diets could then begin to truly sustain them without daily supplements?

  • @jeremyr7147
    @jeremyr7147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I will have to consider this now... I came from a long time in supplement promotion, but carnivore seems to blow everything away across the board. I became against all supplements as worthless.. The only thing i was recommending was ancestral supplements. But I see severe deficiencies could need large doses. I've always been a fan of and have taken high dose c many times.

    • @Anita-silver
      @Anita-silver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I've taken and still do take high doses of vitamin c for multiple chemical sensitivity. It's the supplement that took me from being housebound to being out and about in the world again.

  • @DiarioCarnivoro
    @DiarioCarnivoro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From the bottom of my heart, *thank you*

  • @JohnBlatt71
    @JohnBlatt71 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastic video as always!

  • @dianavp9054
    @dianavp9054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So many thank yous for sharing your knowledge, Elliot. ❤️

  • @carnicor2321
    @carnicor2321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm puzzled to why the Carnivore Diets own "rat pack" (Paul, Bart, Shawn) are so against the use of (carefully selected) nutritional supplementation. Luckily, we also have Elliot ^_^

    • @kwagnert
      @kwagnert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm not puzzled at all! The still have to get out of the "bubble", like most MD's. However, they are far ahead of most!, mind you. But still, they are locked in some dogmas.

    • @CatWoman6
      @CatWoman6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Carnicor 'Rat Pack' Lol 👍🏻

    • @ginab5207
      @ginab5207 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I imagine that many of the leading personalities in the carnivore movement (chaffee, berry, Shawn etc) were functionally healthy at the outset of the carnivore journey. Those of us with decades of veganism and multiple autoimmune conditions are going to have different and longer journeys and much higher nutrient needs.

  • @KekeeBlack
    @KekeeBlack 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    We do need a little extra sometimes. Modern stresses and low quality meat and water take an unnatural toll on us. We need to use unnatural means to fix things sometimes.

  • @davidchad77
    @davidchad77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very informative video, thanks Elliot!

  • @tedgraves6366
    @tedgraves6366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I began using a Mineral Broth: 1 TBL spn Nutritional yeast, a pinch of Sea Salt( mineral blend), a couple drops of Garlic oil, 1 oz butter, and 6-8 oz hot water. . . Spices to taste.

  • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
    @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Many of us were on supps for so long to no avail (decades in my case) until we found carnivore and were relieved to be able to just eat for nutrition and dump all the pills. Maybe adding in a few things (like vit D3 where I live -no sun for months) will bring further improvement off our newfound, higher baseline.

    • @ZdenkoPokorny
      @ZdenkoPokorny 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You shouldn’t need D3 on carnivore, but I agree you may need some other vitamins and minerals

    • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
      @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ZdenkoPokorny I live where there are long gloomy winters. No need for D3 when there is sun to be had.

  • @ninawildr4207
    @ninawildr4207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for this video! Extremely helpful! Love your channel and I highly recommend it for others!

  • @randomsaltyperson1148
    @randomsaltyperson1148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    great video! I agree with you. I take black cohost for my hot spells and vit. d3 and magnesium everyday and feel fantastic! third year in keto/carnivore and still loving it!

  • @lindabell6954
    @lindabell6954 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is such a good video. Thank you!

  • @beautypsycho7139
    @beautypsycho7139 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've had various degrees of POTS symptoms all my life but it got a lot worse on keto and even more worse on carnivore. I went Gluten free --> Paleo --> Keto --> Keto-Carnivore to fix my my lifelong struggles with SIBO and candida it carnivore seems to be the best for that, however my POTS became impossible. I couldn't figure out how can this be - I must have Beriberi. Feeling hopeful now!

  • @ravensrolltop
    @ravensrolltop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have always supplemented no matter what my diet was like. I see it as nutritional insurance. There is a reason that niacin, thiamine, riboflavin, folic acid and iron are widely used to fortify food in the US- because it’s so hard to get. I seem to recall looking up what the RDA for B1 would be in meat and it was two pork chops. That’s just for one b vitamin. I’m a vegan who doesn’t eat grains, so I’m extra restrictive and supplementing works for me. At my age, what a person eats can be just as important as what a person does not eat. Wheat gives me arthritis and other problems so I don’t eat it. But there is some good nutrition there that I’m not getting. But since the benefits don’t outweigh the negatives, I exclude it and supplement instead. I am thankful that I have a solution that works for my body. Thank you for making this video. It’s an important message that everyone needs to hear.

  • @1151simon
    @1151simon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Probably the best advice ive come across 👌

  • @nerychristian
    @nerychristian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I take NAC, Zinc Carnosine, probiotics, and Lion's Mane in order to heal digestive issues.

  • @maddada
    @maddada 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you very much for this video!
    Animal products are a great base for the body to build up and repair, but when someone isn't improving then supplements are necessary.
    Diet dogma is stupid. It's food, not a religion!

  • @tmach5565
    @tmach5565 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff, Elliott!

  • @UnlockYourWellness
    @UnlockYourWellness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing stuff, thanks Elliot

  • @weiss27md
    @weiss27md 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn, I have almost all the symptoms of all these patients plus some.

  • @Converted2truth
    @Converted2truth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PTL. Vital Information coming out!

  • @down2earth716
    @down2earth716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Elliott.

  • @arandom.potato
    @arandom.potato 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    we need more content! I messaged Matt Blackburn and suggested you for an interview on his podcast.

    • @EONutrition
      @EONutrition  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I will make more videos soon. Unfortunately, I am very busy with clinical work at the moment, so finding the time is difficult!

  • @schwantz037
    @schwantz037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I do carnivore for one month at a time. Constipootion becomes an issue after a week or so. Will take note of case study 3 and load up with B1. I already supp with magnesium.....thanks for the info..

  • @Trisherboops
    @Trisherboops 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m doing Carnivore and also supplementing to aid in digestion. I feel a lot better than before supplementing

    • @gardeniainbloom812
      @gardeniainbloom812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you mind sharing what supplements you're using to aid digestion. And what you mean 'aid digestion'. I'm experiencing constant burping even when I don't eat. I'd love this to stop.

    • @Trisherboops
      @Trisherboops 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gardenia in bloom im taking trace minerals, B complex, complete spore restore and a candida supplement along with cod liver oil for extra vitamin D and A absorption and a bile supplement to aid in fat absorption. When I was eating fatty rib eye steaks I would see fat pass on in the stool so the bile supplement helps with that.

  • @kemchobhenchod
    @kemchobhenchod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Methinks an intelligently selected paleo diet with avoidance of antinutrients might be better for some.

    • @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284
      @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have NO doubt that you're right. For me, it's a combination of factors. The ultimate elimination diet is a miracle for me. But it's not complete. A little extra boost and that rounded things out nicely.

  • @Andrew-W
    @Andrew-W 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Irrespective of diets contingency measures aka. supplementations are almost always an enveloping certainty. A very noteworthy video indeed. Unfortunately TH-cam's ranking algorithm always favour sensationalist bottom-lines, punch lines, and fear factors; as opposed to contemplative uploads.
    Just further note which may or may not relate to Vitamin C. Citric Acid has been suspected to interfere with Ketosis (Lyle McD "Ketogenic Diet, 1998"). Yes, people may quickly refute that Vitamin C and Citric Acid is not the same. However I'd wager food source of Vitamin C from lemons, limes and the like is where most people would resort to for affordable wholefood sources of Vitamin C. Both citric and ascorbic acid would likely exist together anyway on these sources. Whether or not these upsets some individuals on their tribal-like devotion to ketosis however, in my opinion - is a small sacrifice worth paying for nevertheless in the long term.

  • @christyconatser2680
    @christyconatser2680 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree. I'm carnivore I need suppliments b vitamins in particular. And iodine.

  • @ZdenkoPokorny
    @ZdenkoPokorny 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After 3-4 months on beef, lamb, salt and water I was tested deficient in B1 and folate, what caused a mild folate anemia also. I started to feel heaviness or some kind of pressure in my legs and and I had to be fixing cramps with salt and magnesium.

    • @BM-7888
      @BM-7888 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your comment!

  • @fatfullday
    @fatfullday 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    AMEN! It drives me nuts when i see people say that no one need supplements. If you run you car into the ground, pop the tires and never change the oil, the car won't magically be fixed because you put gas in the tank!
    I have been on the Carnivore diet for 7 months. seen a lot of improvements but my eczema has only gotten worse. now I have a terrible rash on my face too. so frustrating...

    • @EONutrition
      @EONutrition  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The way I see it is: We live in a freaking toxic world with a bunch of factors which deplete us nutritionally. In an ideal scenario and natural setting, we would be able to get enough nutrients purely from food. However, we live in a toxic soup! Hence, some people just need a lot more than other people, and in some cases it is a lot more than can be gotten from food.

    • @fatfullday
      @fatfullday 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for an excellent video! Shared it in a carnivore group:))

  • @FrankTufano
    @FrankTufano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Case one sounds like dysbiosis/histamines, other cases sound like malabsorption issues, have you implemented more available nutrients in different food preparations? (raw, cooked, fermented)

    • @EONutrition
      @EONutrition  4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Tried multiple variations. The problem in the context of thiamine deficiency, is that food sources on carnivore don't provide that much. Dr Lonsdale found the only way to "kickstart" metabolism in this context was to saturate cells and enzymes with supraphysiologic doses. So instead of simple vitamin replenishment, it was perhaps working on a pharmacological basis to transfer certain information and alter various processes, maybe on the level of gene expression etc.
      So in some cases like the ones I mentioned here, this approach appeared to be the most suitable - and it provided good results.

    • @isaiah95786
      @isaiah95786 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wondered if Frankie watched this. I was gonna bring it up on his live stream today. I like you two guys above pretty much any other TH-cam channels.

  • @STOIUM
    @STOIUM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In nearly every single case that I have heard of people having issues with the carnivore diet, they have experimented with organ meats. I think people need to remember that there are hundreds of pounds of muscle and fat per pound of an organ. This is what we would naturally find in the wild. I know you mentioned that these people tried some and no organs, but do you think the organs could have still been a potential cause of an issue even after they came off, as their body was now used to a flood of extremely high doses of certain vitamins?

  • @eruston
    @eruston 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content here.

  • @jw-vx8im
    @jw-vx8im 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just subscribed thank you for yr work

  • @violiendamast
    @violiendamast 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! This is of great help.

  • @Sylphadora
    @Sylphadora 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I am 90% carnivore diet and take magnesium every night. I have been taking it for years and didn't change that when I went carnivore. I also add a pinch of salt and potassium to my black coffee and my broth. I was scared of supplementing potassium at first even though I suspected I was having too little but after doing research and reading a lot of testimonials I got less scared and decided to start adding pinchs to my coffee. I used to have a high resting heart rate (+100-110 BPM). Now I'm in the 80-90s. I'm pretty sure it's because of the potassium

    • @isaiah95786
      @isaiah95786 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wow those heart rates 😮😓
      Hope you keep improving 😄

    • @snowyowl6892
      @snowyowl6892 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      THANK YOU … I have been terrified of taking Potassium (there is a lot of scare media on this)
      BUT I think my intuition is right …
      I NEED MORE POTASSIUM !

    • @nameofthegame9664
      @nameofthegame9664 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@snowyowl6892high resting heart rate can also be caused by a B1 deficiency. I was also around a 100+ but now I’m down to 60-65. I suspect I had a pretty severe thiamine deficiency borderline beriberi.

    • @snowyowl6892
      @snowyowl6892 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@nameofthegame9664
      B1 ! Yes - I listened to Elliot Overton on B1 … and started taking it every morning.
      IT SURE FIXED MY FATIGUE and LETHARGY. 💪🏻..
      (I thought I was simply lazy)

    • @nameofthegame9664
      @nameofthegame9664 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@snowyowl6892 I’ve been mega dosing and it has worked wonders for me. I’ve been dealing with peripheral neuropathy in my legs and arms. I’ve also had a lot of gut issues and both problems are completely gone as well as my arrhythmia , irregular blood pressure and high resting heart rate. I take 450mg of Benfothiamin 3 times a day combined with a mega B-complex and magnesiummalat, bisglycinat and taurat (a triple magnesium) and potassium citrate. I’ve ordered Thiamax (TTFD), it’s the brand Elliot sells and I’m looking forward to try it out. It’s supposed to be the Ferrari of thiamine being the most bio available.

  • @hardlogic3046
    @hardlogic3046 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very informative. Any reason to go with vitC rather than liposomal unbiquinol though?

    • @BM-7888
      @BM-7888 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you experimented? I’m curious too.

  • @darryldasalla2298
    @darryldasalla2298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We are omnivores. I believe we thrive best on mostly carnivore with herbal supplementation. Meat for food, plants for medicine.

  • @johnadam4807
    @johnadam4807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    11:7 The amount of each B vitamin varies significantly across different brands of multi B complex. What was the exact amount of each B vitamin in the particular one that you used? And how high was the dose of vitamin B6? 50mg? 100mg?

  • @Acnologia
    @Acnologia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How are those supplements made? What do they use to extract the nutrients with? Are the nutrients bio-available? Are the nutrients from supplements the same nutrients as the ones found in animal foods, or do they simply share a similar molecular structure, but is something entirely different? All valid questions. The answer to those questions will lead to the depressing fact that 99% of supplements are an absolute scam that isn't only a waste of money, but harmful to the human body.

    • @EONutrition
      @EONutrition  4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      They don't necessarily need to be the same molecular configuration that is found in food. In fact, in specific areas, a novel molecular configuration actually confers benefits. For example, thiamine TTFD has a much higher bioavailability than the thiamine which is found in foods. In chronic thiamine deficiency, TTFD is a superior method of delivering high doses which are required - much higher than can be derived from foods.
      The statement that "99% of supplements are an absolute scam" is erroneous and derived from thin air. When you work with hundreds of people, many of whom dont get better from food only, yet benefit greatly from supplements, you gain a certain insight. So with all due respect, I aim to do what works... and not simply what is in-line with my ideological stance.

    • @fatfullday
      @fatfullday 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i tell ya what, you shit your pants for months on end and then tell me that you would sake a supplement to fix it...

    • @Acnologia
      @Acnologia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@EONutrition Cooked meat is deprived of enzymes, bacteria and nutrients. Of course it isn't hard to imagine people running into deficiencies with that kind of a lifestyle. The body will leech enzymes from itself to break down the food which is just an evil cycle. If you put someone on a primal diet of mainly raw meat, raw milk, raw eggs and unheated honey, these nutrients deficiencies wouldn't be an issue in the first place.
      It is not just 'thin air'. Why don't you mention that all supplements are extracted with either gasoline or kerosene? Yes, kerosene is "natural", but would you soak your food in kerosene for hours and then eat it? I don't think so. Vitamin e supplements are derived from developing fluid from Fuji an Kodak. People who take supplements for years sometimes end up with aggressive tumors because of it. Supplements are not food, they are chemicals, and therefore not nutrients the body can utilize. The fact that pharmaceutical companies have been able to make supplements affordable to everyone should be a red flag. It would cost about 500 dollars a pill if they were to make 100% real supplements from animal foods. What they're selling is absolute garbage. Everyone who is taking supplements are gambling with their health.

    • @scrubbasher
      @scrubbasher 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Acnologia I had the same questions about supplements myself, also many supplements lose potency from oxidization after being opened and other supplements contain contaminants.
      I noticed a lot of comments where people will say they tried eating eggs and couldn't on the carnivore diet due to diarrhea and gut cramps, when I started the carnivore diet, I was eating very lightly cooked steak basically 2/3 raw and raw eggs with tiny bit of raw milk mixed in to cut through the egg white taste. The first week I was getting gut cramps from the eggs but this resolved itself and I can now eat a lot of raw eggs in a day no problem. From reading it seems a lot of it has to do with our bile and that being on higher carb lower fat diets our entire lives the bile secretion isn't working properly and needs to get used to the extra fat.

    • @FOURTEEFIVE
      @FOURTEEFIVE 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Acnologia please tell me about your raw food journ

  • @Design111
    @Design111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant work! When would you recommend benfothiamine vs TTFD?

  • @randmtsk7512
    @randmtsk7512 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Elliot what B-complex are you recommending? It seems you recommend it to a lot of your patients.

  • @IvorMektin1701
    @IvorMektin1701 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video 👍

  • @nancysmith-baker1813
    @nancysmith-baker1813 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not every one is the same . I have to take magnesium and other minerals .
    And up biotin .
    I do more ketoe .
    Thankyou for doing this very helpfull .
    I cannt do high fat . Gotta stick to just eggs .no extra fat .
    THANKYOU For doing this .
    Carnivore is not for every one .

  • @akitorose7771
    @akitorose7771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi Elliot, do you use HTMA as a tool? I found it invaluable in treating my autistic son. We initially did well with lots of animal products, they helped gut issues to a degree but the game changer was the HTMA...we discovered he was low in everything he needed to get B12 into his brain. Within days of adding in recommended supplements his anxiety disorder and depression disappeared, tinnitus and fatigue went, far fewer palpitations and lots of other benefits. My son was completely depleted of lithium, low potassium, sodium, magnesium, no bismuth or germanium, low phosphorus...there's absolutely a need to supplement when your so depleted.

    • @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284
      @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is fantastic and I'd love to learn more.

    • @akitorose7771
      @akitorose7771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 absolutely changed my boys life....I am in the UK, I have an amazing practitioner. I've had my mother tested as she has Alzheimer's and my Dad has heart disease...their results have been a revelation.

    • @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284
      @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@akitorose7771 Oh! Is this the hair mineral analysis?

    • @akitorose7771
      @akitorose7771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 yes, fantastic tool regards health.

    • @cryptoaddicted5419
      @cryptoaddicted5419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi there did you have a doctor interpret your results and advise you? just that ive had my own hair test done and im low in all the things you said above but i don't know if its as easy as just supplement these things. Someone else told me its mineral transport derangement and im suffering with heavy metal toxicityt. suffering lot of widespread symptoms

  • @alexanderknight7793
    @alexanderknight7793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Also, oxidation stress = cooking too much food. They need to find raw foods to eat and cook them less.

  • @McNastySlam
    @McNastySlam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would you recommend a certain type of B1 for autoimmune patients us over another? I noticed that you gave 2 different forms to different patients in these case studies and am curious why!

  • @secretmission7607
    @secretmission7607 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wonder if those people who enjoyed health improvements only after they started taking supplements would have experienced those same benefits on a healthy omnivore diet + supplements...

    • @kemchobhenchod
      @kemchobhenchod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I made the same comment and came down and saw this. Paleo perhaps more selective than omnivore and with avoidance of antinutrients.

    • @absurdplanet776
      @absurdplanet776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kemchobhenchod I'm currently rethinking my strategy on carnivore diet. I'm now leaning back towards paleo as I reckon this is where I felt best.

    • @raynaquigs7879
      @raynaquigs7879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think some people have trouble keeping blood sugar levels normal on carnivore. Maybe it's different if you've grown up carnivore, but possibly some people can't adjust to a zero carb diet at a certain point in life where others can.

    • @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284
      @vociferonheraldofthewinter2284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I did a 'healthy omnivore diet + supplements' for decades. Nearly killed me.
      I cannot handle plants. Eliminating that crap was where I turned the corner.
      But I don't think that what works for me works for everyone else. Some may do much better with another approach.

    • @loriscott9091
      @loriscott9091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@raynaquigs7879 as a T1D I do much better normalizing blood sugars on carnivore. I was keto for 12 years with an A1C of 5.8 to 6.0. After 1 year carnivore my A1C is now 5.3, non-diabetic range.

  • @silas1414
    @silas1414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have severe ankylosing spondylitis and psoriatic arthritis and adhered to strict carnivore for 6 months but had to stop as I was constantly experiencing hypoglycaemia and developed daily migraines.
    Done all the tweaks I could find at the time from electrolyte supplementation to digestive aids and followed the guidelines like a robot but could not solve the hypos and the headaches so had to cease the diet, returning to autoimmune paleo, symptoms never resolved during or after with the exception of possibly some eye issues.
    The only explanation I could come up with is that continuing to take the medications somehow inhibited results, though most people seem to agree the results should come even while still on medications, and to keep them included as long as inflammation is present to preserve joints. Most frustrating was the hypoglycaemia, which never changed despite significant fat intake and being in high level of ketosis. I'd be dropping into unacceptable blood sugar levels only a few hours after eating. I was tracking all of this via glucometer and an endocrinologist only confirmed the problem but found no solution other than adding back some carbs. Would like to try again but now over a year later still haven't found any other way do it?

    • @ryanlebear
      @ryanlebear หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, I have AS too, I was curious to see how you are getting on. Did youvtry the diet again?

    • @silas1414
      @silas1414 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ryanlebear Hi, medications + diet is keeping maybe 80% control of symptoms, currently doing what I call Carnivore -adjacent, which is basically meat + some organic apples, but am continuing to experiment, am going to tighten diet further and see where I can get it to without the issues from before, at the moment am trying to wean off prednisolone.

    • @ryanlebear
      @ryanlebear หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@silas1414 I think it's important to keep experimenting. I'd tried a continuous blood glucose monitor for a couple of weeks and reading would go as low as 2.8mmol but I didn't experience any adverse affects. Also on the carnivore diet, or should I say lion diet at the moment, I continue to feel quite flat, energy levels are not the best, mood and motivation are low so I'm starting to experiment with supplements. I've started off with iodine, and I've just purchased the Thiamine Protocol from Objective Nutrients to see if things can improve. I also take biologics and co-codomol for ad-hoc pain relief, I don't do well with NSAIDS and the diet seems to manage that quite well for the most part but I do flare up now and again but it's not quite as aggressive and usually down to something I've done like over exertion or digressing from my diet. I've got a journal on instagram with my progress if you're interested, instagram.com/carnivore.bear it would be nice to have some followers living with AS on board for discourse and I'll be documenting my experience with the Thiamine protocal I'm starting soon. All the best with your recovery and taper.

  • @jansvoboda4293
    @jansvoboda4293 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to know, thank you.

  • @kcmc3615
    @kcmc3615 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    when you talk about cutting this or that out...for how long does one cut something out to determine its relevance? I have been carnivore for 5 months and my psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis just continues to get worse. This is very interesting info. Thanks

  • @heinmyar
    @heinmyar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about sulbutiamine

  • @NUTRITIONALDIVERSITY
    @NUTRITIONALDIVERSITY 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 'biodiverse food study, in Panama,' states 60 species as the minimum sufficient daily diet..

  • @saradejesus9869
    @saradejesus9869 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you

  • @CanaryBlack0
    @CanaryBlack0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So maybe those people did not need to change their diets and just supplement? Or did those supplements only work because they were on carnivore?

  • @JustinWaters-e5s
    @JustinWaters-e5s ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have psoriasis and have been on the carnivore diet for 5 months. The supplements you mentioned in the 4th case. Is that to be taken in liquid or capsule form? Tia

  • @gibbyjones1040
    @gibbyjones1040 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    my dietary staple is raw grass-fed hamburger. it doesn't taste 'good' and it doesn't taste bad. it is rather bland.
    it is what my body prefers. it is ok to try something different - i think raw fatty meat is special.

  • @ClickToPreview
    @ClickToPreview 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It took me til the last 2 minutes of this video to understand what you were trying to get across, because the idea that supplementation of individual nutrients NEVER occurred in the wild, except for maybe salt-seeking. But i get you. People that have ruined their health by NOT eating a natural wild diet their whole lives may need a different, targeted approach to help deal with the decades of poor eating.

    • @EONutrition
      @EONutrition  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yep, thats basically it!

    • @sarahwong5592
      @sarahwong5592 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Also, we are subjected to many unnatural kinds of stressors that our ancestors never had to deal with (radiation levels from all the technology all around us, lack of hours-long daily exposure to natural light, confinement in buildings like our homes and work places that off-gas the toxic chemicalsnin their building materials and harbor molds of types and in concentrations that we would not encounter spending our days in outdoor, natural settings, poisons in the air and water, and minerals removed from the water as it is being treated to make it "safe." ...Add it all up, and we are receiving LESS nutrition from our food while needing MORE to deal with the burdens of stress and toxicity imposed by modern life (and largely outside our control).

  • @saveyourselves5923
    @saveyourselves5923 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The UK's answer to Dr Berg 🤩

  • @Dan0rioN
    @Dan0rioN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd add some plants in before supplements..