The Biggest SECRET In Lords of the Fallen!
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I had the opportunity to get hands on with Lords of the Fallen. Today, we break down one of the biggest secret weapons in the game and how to complete this secret questline. Lords of the Fallen is an upcoming action role-playing video game developed by Hexworks and published by CI Games. A successor to the 2014 video game of the same name, it is set to be released in October 2023 for Windows PC, PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X and Series S.
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0:00 Intro
1:22 Thehk Ihir Questline
4:30 Thehk Ihir Armor
5:19 Stick Upgrade
6:41 Secret Power
8:14 Conclusion
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Music:
Metroid Prime OST - เกม
PSA: if you offhand the stick, the buff applies to both of your equipped weapons, not just the stick itself. Enjoy!
to get the buffs do you HAVE to wear his set or just max the stick and pet the dog?
@@wqlfeyhe said it in the video, you need to wear the set
Wait but how can you have 2 weapons equipped if the stick is in your offhand?
@cainification you cam dual wield weapons, one in your right and one In your left
When I dual-wield it turns off the secret perk for some reason
Edit nvm I just seem to have a low chance of it happening also if U off-handed it and two hand the other weapon it will still work
The item that increases damage with each different status on an enemy probably needs to go here. And then the ring they adds bleed to poison. Buff with poison weapon, and if you dual wield sticks, you can stack 5 different status effects on an enemy in just a few seconds.
Idk how good that may be, but I’m definitely going to try it.
is the stick even applying debuffs though? looks like it's just gaining inferno, radiant and umbral randomly not actual status effect
As long as it holds each buff long enough to actually apply a status affect, this is basically what I was thinking as well. Or maybe status build up counts for that amulet as well?
@@Banana-cc5rxweapon buffs give you ailment chances
That necklace that increases status effects is actually terrible.. We tested it out on the discord and even with 5 different status effects, the flat damage/def amulets gave more damage. You get even more damage from the princess sting amulet if you're a light armored player also, a lot more.
Unfortunately you can't dual wield sticks as thekk won't give a second one on new game +, and you can't drop it for companions either.
Hot take I like Lords if the fallen more than Lies of P….. not the performance lol
Me too
Lords of the fallen
Exactly, Lies of P is so meh
Same
Me too, way more fun despite all the enemy ganks
When I first found it, I said to myself watch this stick be the most strongest weapon in the game. So I held on to it. Never trying to sell it, nothing. It just sits in my inventory. It's great to know that I was right to hang on to it. Thanks for the head up. I didn't even realize that it was a quest item.
i think different, i thought it was tied quest to thertalhik.. whatever his name is, and we should take stick until his final moments, i was expecting he going to die
I did exactly same thing. It’s just been sitting in inventory for ages. Pretty sure I’ve already done all steps in play through. Just need to upgrade it
Same. RPGs have made me a hoarder since I was a child. I learned early never sell anything. But I end up never using or selling anything, always saving it for some time that usually never happens
Same here. I've played enough JRPG's over the years to know I should never underestimate a weapon that seems worthless at first.
Also, who would ever sell a unique weapon? That's the blasphemy of casuals.
@@NickC_222I keep at least one of everything. Unless I need duplicates, but definitely don't sell the one item.
I'm pretty sure hound appears in Skyrest when you kill archer boss - Gentle Gaverus, Mistress of Hounds - not Congregator of Flesh. At least it was true in my playthrough (and I guess from logical standpoint, makes more sense).
Based on the armor set unlocking a totally new power to the weapon I bet by make a “build” for the weapon they mean there is a perfect set of items to be paired with the stick that either lore wise make sense or maybe a perfect combination of stats that make sense lore wise
Kinda like how u unlock the archon class in remnant 2
Observations related to “The Stick” hidden ability
Thehk-Ihir’s name is a combination of the names of two weapon’s released as an add-on for the original “Lords of the Fallen” game.
Add-on weapon descriptions:
“IHIR (sword) - in the demonic Adalúk language its name means 'the one who'. It suggests this mighty weapon’s versatility which is equally powerful for both attacking and blocking.
MARGYR (daggers) - the name translates to 'friends', as they reward those who, forgoing a shield, trust the striking power of blades alone to see them safely through a fight.
THEHK (hammer) - named 'thief' in the Adalúk tongue, this hammer leeches magical energy with each strike, feeding its wielder’s spells and gauntlet attacks”
The name Thehk-Ihir in Adulak translates to “Thief-the one who”.
My feeling is the translation is hinting at “The Iron Wayfarer” since he steals Adyr’s rune, also his hammer is the only weapon in the game to have all 3 elemental damage types (holy, fire, wither). I’ve seen him use both a wither and fire elemental attack on the Bramis Bridge depending on his quest progression.
I also found a ring description referencing the Adulak language, “Adyrqamar Ring” which deals additional damage when two-handing a weapon. This fits well into a “Stick” build as holding it in the off hand will add the elemental buffs onto the main-hand weapon while two-handing it.
My thoughts are the stick would activate the elemental special attack seen in the boss fight, but when I put this build together this morning it was nothing special.
I feel I’m on the right track but still missing something.
My next step is completing the Umbral Ending, which unlocks “The Iron Wayfarers” trophy coincidentally named “The last step”.
Since he starts the game using Wither attacks, then Fire after he steals Adyr’s rune, unlocking his trophy might unlock his Holy attack and the special attack with his hammer while off-handing “The Stick”
I sure hope to god this works 😬😬
did it work?
@@SoulKingsssMans wrote all that and left us hangin lol
@@C-G585 tragic
DID IT WORK PLEASE REPLY
You are a madman! Well done dude
I tested the stick +10 with all different stat rings (including vitality and endurance), all four modes (physical, fire, radiant and umbral). what I found was that none of these seem to scale the damage at all.
It seems to me it's either meant to scale on purely base damage of the weapon, or there is a part of the puzzle missing, such as a particular offhand to go with the rest of it.
I thought possibly a shield such as the Orian Preacher Shield might fit the bill, but I'm not game to spend one of my chunks on upgrading it on a hunch.
At the moment though, it seems the best way to build for it is put all your points into Vitality and Endurance, since it only seems to scale on base damage
Did you ever stop to think that MAYBE the devs were trolling about the stick being "the best weapon in the game"????
I kept my stick. Figured it would be important.
Yeah me too as soon as was given this I told myself this more then just a stick.
@@Jaikenz37same here
Same😂
This is an April Fool’s joke. 😂 I kept it too and even upgraded it to +4.
Same.
Maybe the Shuja Harmony Loop pendant? Not sure if the stick cycling elements would count as spells being cast or not, but with that pendant...after each spell cast, further spells cast deal temp increased dmg and casting different schools of magic further amps it.
as I understand that buffs to the stick are automatically applied, not casted...still gonna work?
I been wondering about this stick ever since he gave it to me lol. Glad you made video on it :P
I really like this game flaws and all. Will be playing this game for a good long while.
I've noticed that the random buffs happen more as I level strength and agility, than when I pet the dog. I don't think petting the dog is related.
I’ve played this game 65 hours already and I think it’s a good game. Fun and challenging if you’re a SoulsBorne veteran. I think it’s close to being a great, seems like it’s not vibing with casual gamers, curious to see sales after a few weeks.
It's not really challenging it's more cheap or overtuned then challenging.
Casuals are dumb.
The only challange in this game comes from enemy spam, which isnt fun, just leads you to run past everything and not experience the areas
Ok yeah you guys are right, the enemy spamming is insane and the challenging stuff feels more cheap than challenging. 100% that’s what I was getting at.
What are you two talking about? Enemy spam? There's a counter to every enemy! You don't just run in and dodge/attack over and over. I had a difficult enemy, switched to a bleed weapon, boom, easy mode for him. Too many enemies? I kite them to an area, and strategically take them out. You don't even have defeat all enemies in some areas, especially when in Umbral, it's pointless.
This game is like a puzzle, there's always a way to offset anything that's "annoying."
I'm not even a huge fan of the genre, and even I'm enjoying it. The checkpoint system was annoying until I used them strategically. I made a blind run through a level, learning where the checkpoints were, got defeated, ran through again, and put a seed down to where I knew I could get defeated again. Ran into a boss, then respawn at the last seed planted. That was actually fun! And I consider myself a casual player!
This is one of the best souls-like I've played.
I threw the stick away and the dog brought it back to me. Good dog!
Before i saw this vid, i was already planning to upgrade the stick to max lvl and mess around with it. Glad there’s a secret to it
Id say there is a good chance that a specific combination of all sloots and equipment is needed to make it better. Kinda like the backrooms easter egg in remnant
Can confirm if used in your off hand it will put the buff on your main hand weapon
thanks for this!
I'm not sure if the attacks of the stick count as "spells cast" but the Shuja harmony hoop makes subsequent spells do increased damage, "casting spells from different schools further amplifies this effect"
2:10 "but now that you've exhausted becky here's dialogue" LOL
misheard commentary moments
This game is fire man idc I got spider man but I keep coming back to it and playing
I KNEW there was something about that stick. The foreshadowing of it when it was given to you pointed to something special about it.
I actually always used the stick as a second hand weapon while maining the shovel head fists
I love meme weapons haha.
But I never equipped his clothes. Will do a whole playthrough as *him* now
I KNEW the second I got the stick that there was something more to it. I figured there was no way it was just what it was at face value
I'm just gonna go out on a whim here and guess that if you manage to get two of these sticks they have special attack pattern or something XD
Yeah I need to try getting two of them
You mean....go out on a LIMB?
no I mean on a whim - but whatever lol@@Axtrudithorize
@@ZiostormI've tried obtaining it again on ng+ and I've been unsuccessful
@@ItsKeebs oh really, he just does not give it to you? I wonder if someoen can just drop one from an alt maybe
I’m currently on my third play through after I got the infinite fall-death ending on my first two fr 10/10 game
Ok i may have figured it out. So if u duel wield with the stick on your off-hand it procs onto your main hand as another in the comment has stated. But if you 2 hand stance your main weapon and it is lvl 10 it will still get the random buffs even though the stick is on your back. So i guess if your build uses say a polearm that u use with both hands, now it will benefit from the buffs
Oh yeah. Respect men I guess this is the reason why this weapon is the best weapon. Because it’s the only weapon with a buff 💡👍
it also works well with fist weapons because when you two hand stance with them you duel wield which gives great attack speed. I had the buffs proc like every other hit. Looks really cool seeing you weapons flashing different colors likes its a rave. But it only works if the weapon is level 10.
@@hurpderp6577 Is it necessary to wear the armor set of the pilgrim?
yes you still need to wear the set. Also tested it while accompanying a lamp bearer and it seems to not work on their game, might just be host only. @@karnap9905
So, I'm curious since the devs said anything that you see an enemy do you can do. After watching this wondering if I wear the whole Kin Ranger set can I do the ice strike and ice slash with the axe?
Tested both Rinrangr axes at plus 10 with the armor set and nope.
I KNEW IT!!! Second i got that thing i knew it was gunna be somthing like this!!
The hilarious part is I've been farming materials to upgrade 2 sticks to max so I could pvp dual-weild sticks now I'm hyped🤣🤣
Isn’t there a pendant or something that increases magic damage after casting a spel that increases for each school that’s cast? Maybe it helps?
I've pet the dog for around nine hours and my stick only shifts every eight to ten times
As a physical weapon with low scaling, this should make the Stick much stronger. Princess' Sting will boost the attack damage by up to 25% on high enough endurance, or Scornful Effigy gives a 25% boost at the cost of 50% health. The Pertiax and Halsan runes can also boost damage while reducing scaling, and given how low the scaling is even at +10, that probably adds far more than it takes away. Plus, the Adyrqamar Ring boosts damage while two-handing and Melchior's Ring boosts physical damage.
I focused on Physical damage boosting without stat investment because if the buffs are impacted by Radiance and Infernal stats, you'll want to pump those more than the physical stats. This is all theory-crafting without testing, so take it with a gain of salt.
Where’d you find the 2 rings I just finished the radiant ending and haven’t found either
I've been loving this game.
Man, that'll teach me. I sold that stick right after I got it. For some reason at that early in the game, I thought we would have limited bag space.
I got rid of mine because I was fiending for more vigor QQ
Same lol. Fucking lame
you have like 1350 of bag space lmao
Yessss. Please make more Lords videos. Maybe a boos ranking?i wanna see more from u bro🤝
Don't say bro 😂😂😂
Yo Zio!! If you didnt know theres also secret abilities with Pieta & Elianne swords involving the "odd stone" and lightreaper swords have one as well
could you elaborate?
CAN YOu elaborate on the lightreaper swords? what item does it?
I'll explain, the Pieta + Elianne sword combo is only possible after you get the Odd Stone in Upper Calrath and show it to Pieta. Then, equip both and press the Guard + Heavy buttons at the same time to do the usual dual-wielding combo but with an added AoE/Visual effect. Same goes for the Lightreaper's weapons (the swords, not the daggers as far as i know but might also be possible) the only difference is that you need to complete Paladin Isaac's quest by summoning him against the last Lightreaper encounter. The dual-wielding combo will unleash the fire blade spell like the boss does to you.
@@LowlyTarnished nice ill try it, thanks!
Apparently all the remembrance weapons have something like this
I skipped Path of Devotion because I'm on an Inferno build and he's never moved from Skyrest. I'm at Revelation Depths before Dervla. I just unlocked Berescu's Vestige and I'm going to see if I can catch him up by doing Path now. I'll update in case anyone is in a similar situation. Thanks for the guide. 🙏
Dual wield on completely even stats? Then toss in the best ring and amulet suggestions people have suggested down below? Maybe you have to pick the condemned class?
That's some well hidden secret. Thanks for the video. Cheers from Germany
Dude i knew the stick had to have something about it hahaha i love this game!
did you try buffing stick with salts because if you can that could very well be broken if it can have the stick power and a buff at the same time.
I can't believe this guy told us a 9-minute lie
I knew I should hold on to the stick. Normally i sell off every weapon i wont use but for some reason when i saw stick something said don't sell it. That guy was way too nice and they did him wrong and the developers wouldnt give you a stick thats just a stick. So its just sitting in my inventory ready for me to finish this video and start the quest. I just ran into that guy in his second location about an hour ago.
Only ever sell duplicates in games like these mate. You never know what you might try in the future and some weapons you might get lucky finding because of such low drop rates
Did you guys know just having your lamp out blocks all of the MENDACIOUS VISAGE's attacks ❤❤❤❤ your welcome ..... inculdimg the maggots
Use the stick in off hand and then a Wesson that uses other statuses in the other... pretty much giving you a way of using everything all at once
I had a feeling about that damn stick (pause) I'm not even surprised now lol
I really like this game. Hope the can make the game stable on consoles. Then it’ll be a great game.
I've been petting the dog for like 3 hours and the stick still hasn't done anything.
Same here
When he gave me that stick I had a feeling it must be more than just a simple shitty weapon but I also knew that I wouldn't uncover it's secret alone LOL
As curious as I am to see what buildcrafting can take place around the stick, I don’t think aesthetically I can give up a beefy greatsword look for a literal stick.
Maybe if they put fast travel in NG+ I’ll be on the loom out more of what to do
I love this game, truly do. There’s some issues that could still be ironed out a bit sure, but genuinely love the game
However I do NOT understand the no vestiges (except for Skyrest & your seeds-get a LOT of em I guess)-just don’t understand that one
I’m betting there’s maybe another secret? I’m not sure if it’s a build that’s required-I’d like to find out though
"Thicky-here" hiding something under those robes 👀😭😭
Double wooden stick . Maybe it requires u to get the stick and do the quest twice in order to duel wield it to its best capability along with rings that might serve as a buff.
Does this work if you two hand the main weapon?
Ooo, this is interesting! For me, Dervla Crossbow build was the strongest weapon. Can't wait to see the true potential of the stick!
judging from what it does, i think dev are saying that it is best off-hand weapon because you get access to all 3 schools of magic buffs by using stick. In summary, it is just support duel-hand weapon.
I've experienced that if you've completed his questline in a previous playthrough with the stick, you wont be able to get another stick in the next, instead he gives the voiceline "It's a harsh wind that blows in Mournstead, but a tree that doesn't bend breaks, I suppose."
He says that to me and I'm still in my first playthrough. In fact he said it to me in our first encounter in pilgrims perch Before I even got the stick.
Der- IL-ee-UM, not delirium.
still, cool find. knew that the Stick would be useful… same with petting that dog. seemed odd that the dog never reacted to pets.
also, i guess there are a few weapons that have special effects when paired up too, like the light swords. apparently those aren’t the only ones
Use the ring rhat makes you do more damage for the morestatus effects that are on an enemy and theres another item as well that will make it op but cant remember the neclace it is
There is a rune that boost elemental damage,but I’ve only found 1.
i just have 2 questions
1 does the upgrade/buff last into NG+ so i could do a stick only run?
2 if i have someone else drop me a stick and just upgrade and pet can i dual wield them going into NG+?
Can’t be dropped as it is tied to a quest. Although I have hear people have had it dropped for them, but not sure how legitimately it was done.
Metroid Music in Background ❤ love it 😅
Yall have a fix for your save gettin corrupted? I wanna play the game again but not have to risk my game randomly crashing and corrupting my save.
Now I want a stick only playthrough
Not sure if it has any purpose to this item but dual wielding in the game seems to always add some type of benefit to special weapons . The same npc that gives you the stick also sells you a “pointed stick” later on in the game. Maybe that one has some hidden benefits as well fully upgraded but I’m not wasting my limited upgrade materials to find out lol.
You can just find the pointed stick as well in one of the early areas. There's nothing special about that one.
@@CAiNiAC”OR MAYBE THAT IS WHAT THE DEVS WANT YOU TO THINK!” 🤔😳
You said I couldn't find this on my own. I found that stick on my first day I thought it was a throwing weapon at first to attract enemies
I had a feeling pet the dog would be a thing, I kept petting him but didn't get any results, but I gave up after like 10 times
Any idea how long you have to keep petting the dog? I have the +10 stick, full Failed Pilgrim armor set on and have pet the dog for 30min straight. Went to attack basic enemies and there’s no elemental effect. I’ve one handed and two handed it.
You failed... you need thek armor set not pilgrim😊
Using the ring that enhances the power of different spell usage? That's what the stick does.
Seeing as the equipment activate as a set, perhaps there is another item (ranged weapon?)
Theres a pendant i got that increases damage for each subsequent spellcast of a different kind, i wonder if it works for this?
I’m thinking go with the ravager Gregory sword for more damage dual wielding with the stick
That's hilarious and amazing
I never had him appear in Skyrest. I think because I opened that Door early to suicide run for Bloody Glory. But I have the Vestige at the other end of the run where it looks like he appears next so I will pop over to there to see if he is indeed there for me now.
you dont need to talk to him untill the last place he spawns before the radiant leader boss. so dont freit :) ur fine. i got the stick from my second playthrough in ng+ so you can still do it :)
I did the same thing as you for bloody glory and he was at that vestige but I just got to the nest vestige and he isn't there, what happened for you, did you find him again and were you able to complete his quest?
@@danielcalabrese5769 yes. It took a while for him to move from the memorial. He is at the abbey now. I think it is right before he died. If he is still at the memorial you .ight need to talk to him there more.
Rangr's dagger offhand with poison weapon. Fortune's sight, Bloodbane Ring, Pendant of Burden/Princess Sting?
And people who can't beat Pieta say this game sucks 😂 stuff like this is incredibly important. this game is the best souls like I have ever played
I hate the bread lady tho
Nah not the best soulslike 💀
It is really good. Once you get down the mechanics it’s so grwec
Non fromsoft souls like rankings.
1.) Lords of the Fallen (2023)
2.) Nioh 2
3.) Surge 2
4.) Salt and Sanctuary
5.) Lies of P
@@cimsocosmic Oh man, thanks for mentioning Surge 2, that game is super good. 👍🏻
How do you guys find sectests lore etc? I saw first day ppl post about side quest. 2 nd about ng+ I m 80 hours in and can’t find a way to beat game. Can’t find 6th beacon
Guys, what if, and hear me out here, what if the devs are just trolling and this is the extent of the stick's power? That couldn't be, surely? xD
It shares its rotational elemental buffs with your offhand weapon
I was specting that you can summom the dog to fight with you lol
I appreciate the work put on by the devs and this vid but why got all through that if you got Lucent Beam just being cracked hands down?
How’d you get that red armor set?
This is my stick build so far..
Weapons:
Gilded Buckets +10 (Ativ, Ixon, Velox)
Stick +10 (Velox, Ruq, Vaus)
Lost Berescu's Catalyst
Spells:
Orius' Judgement
Seismic Slam
Barrage of Echoes
Adyr's Rage
Lucent Beam
Armor:
Failed Pilgrim set
Tincts:
Exalted
Shuja Harmony Hoop
Charred Root
Ring of Radiants Preeminence
i think best weapon to use off-hand stick with is Judge cleric's corrupt longsword off-hand sword. The reason being is that Judge corrupt cleric's sword has 4 scalers, so strength, agility, int, radiance and it has 3 damage types, physical, fire, holy. If you get umbral buff, you deal 4 damage types with stick and since Judge cleric's sword has no debuffs, this stick makes your sword have all debuff possibilities. The build is technically is good in NG+ offensively speaking due to 4 scales on your weapon but because you have to use that garbage failed pilgrim set, your basically 1 shot. due to how this build plays, you want just stack damage modifiers as high as possible. I think the way they intended you to play this is to run Princess sting amulet for 25% damage increase, Charred roots to cast all Adyr buffs (Endurence, Rage, Defense) and Adyrgamar ring for 10% damage increase for duel-wielding since your forced to duel wield to make this stick do anything. in total, your get 45% damage for using all these damage buffs. I would recommend using Holy catalyst for Laceration buff which gives your weapon bleed effect. so now you have all 4 damage types, bleed and almost every single status effect in the game.
It should have been obvious the stick would be a godly weapon.....as it's a stick.
I knew there was more to that stick than meets the eye
C'est certainement plus une référence à Hogwart qu'à l'utiliser comme une arme d'attaque . Ca booste très certainement la magie necessaire pour tuer les ennemies qu'on en face de soi ... Un ennemi est sensible au feu , la baguette s'enflamme . A l'erosion , elle devient magique . Au froid , elle prend la forme de glace . Pourrait s'en servir comme indicateur de faiblesse !!
When i started the video, i was "a secret about the stick ? The dog isinvolved ?! Of course it had to be about playing fetch with the dog! How could i not think of this?!"
Turns out it is not... I feel sad...
Bro, the eye opens up when you pet the dog! Your dread has to fill until the eye goes red thats why it worked for you. Im doing it now, plus 10 stick lol
you dont have to do that to get it to work. just pet the dog wearing the armor and with the stick equipped. whichever weapon you pair the stick with has to be leveled to level 10 as well.
Not sure if my game is bugged but I’ve seen him twice. Killed the root boss and he wasn’t there or in any other spot in the game
this stick with the new bucket
There is a pendant or ring that amplifies damage depending on number of status effects.
Pendant of Burden
I still feel like the bucket goes with the stick lol.
He won’t move from the vestige of dieter. I’ve exhausted his dialogue multiple times. And still he remains where he is.
he goes to abbey after you kill that holy priest boss.
I can’t get the invite to the discord to work. It keeps directing me to the App Store and then when I open discord via the store the invite isn’t there and it doesn’t show up
I knew it, I knew the thehk ihir set did something, I could taste it
Don't be surprised if the creators of the game were flat-out lying when they said it was the best weapon they may have done that just to get people to do the storyline which doesn't have a lot of incentive otherwise
I got this item, and can confirm that it is indeed a stick
wait, the last time i saw the merchant was at vestige of brother Jeremiah, after i progressed further, i cannot see him there
Crazy. And I thought fromsoft did obscure quests