would love to see an "open source" golf launch monitor come out and help lower the costs of subscription fees and addon fees etc from the big guys. Its only a matter of time before someone releases an affordable unit with open source software and community involvement.
Most of the Uneekor LM's are like that. Only the new mini requires a subscription. But all the overhead units do not require one and work with just about every sim on the market
I recently purchased the PRGR Launch Monitor $229. Its quite accurate radar based you can check all of the TH-cam videos on its operation and appeal. The simplicity and its compactness makes this PRGR my pocket launch monitor. And by pocket monitor I mean it fits in your pocket.Turn it on select your club set it behind the ball and receive Club head speed, Ball speed, Smash factor Carry and Total distance with a very intuitive 4 key board control. In the house while practicing my swing I can place it behind where the ball would go, swing and get the club speed only without actually having to hit a ball. It also has a setting for measuring ball speed for baseball and soccer. For the under $300 best of launch monitors I give it to the PRGR. And just as recent a golf buddy just bought a PRGR 10.5° driver and 15° 3 wood. PRGR is a Japanese sports golf manufacturer that I never heard of till late more popular in Europe that makes a very decent launch monitor for cheap.
Have been using the original skytrak for over 4 years in my garage setting. Works fine, very accurate, needs less space. Very happy with it. Has helped improve my swing a lot. No need to go to the range. If I go to the range just see where the ball goes with my eyes 😅
Mlm2pro not having face to path is a deal breaker and why I haven’t traded my R10. I’ve had the R10 since launch and after updates over the years, it’s gotten pretty good. the casual golfer looking to improve out to in swing path, gap irons, and play as a sim really doesn’t need anything else.
just a bit of fun...Your videos are very informative and definitely help cut through the myriad of products out there so we can make the right decision on which products best fit our needs.
Incredibly helpful video! Thank you for taking the time to create this roundup. If I'm needing club data to help me try to dial in my high handicap swing, which unit(s) would you steer me towards? If that doesn't help narrow it down enough, my second most requested feature would be to easily see a replay of my swing so I can pinpoint what I'm doing wrong. I was leaning towards the MLM 2 Pro for the impact camera, but it seems like it might be a little too zoomed in to help my use case. I also heard it takes a long time for the replay to be viewable, at least on early release models. Perhaps they've since patched it? The MLM's consumer level of data offerings also gives me pause. The Mevo Plus was another alternative that caught my eye 6 months ago, but am curious if something else has released or is on the horizon that would be worth waiting for. A few other variables - will be mostly used outside on a covered porch. I will have access to a TV and gaming PC, if needed. Simulator/virtual golf isn't a big selling point & I'd rather have more data. Looking for an option for under $1000-$1500 or maybe something that ticks all of the boxes for under $2000-$2500, if possible. Thanks!
Yeah in my experience the impact camera really does very little in terms of helping you review single details. It's really there to allow the MLM2PRO to track the RPT balls for accurate spin data. That said, it does a very good job of allowing you to easily review your swings after every shot. It does so automatically, and is probably my favorite launch monitor for that specific purpose. I'd personally probably go for the Mevo Plus, despite the higher price. It does such a good job of allowing you to customize data and how it's displayed, plus it's the most versatile for getting even more data, expanding into more simulator offerings etc. It's also what I'd say, the most professional of the consumer level offerings, most from a software and hardware perspective. And it also does a good job of allowing you to replay video, as well as use multiple cameras if that's something you're into. Either way though, both are excellent devices for what they are, and I think you'll be happy with whichever one you go for.
SC4 doesn't detect side spin as far as I am aware - all shots are straight - quite a big issue when trying to use it with a simulator. Garmin R10 does pick up hooks/slices
Would like to see what monitor works best with hybrid clubs & how to best use a monitor with hybrids. Can't find anything online related to monitors & hybrids.
Really wrestling with going with the Skytrak+ or the Bushnell Launch Pro. I like some of the of the things like the club matrix with the Skytrak+ but based on what I've read/seen, while both are extremely accurate, the Bushnell seems to be better on putts and high loft irons. I will primarily be using this monitor for practice and simulation in doors, but the ability to use it outdoors is appealing! Your thoughts/recommendations?
Have been using the mevo plus for a few years in my home sim. Putting is not so good but paired with GSPRO with the auto-putt setting, it has been pretty awesome.
Yeah putting is about as barebones as it gets, which is the case with moth simulators! But Mevo Plus and GSPRO is one of the best setups out there for the money.
Did you test any of the Uneekor options? Should have a pick for best device for LH/RH players. While you can argue the mevo+ can do it, it sucks for chipping and putting and you need tons of space. The overhead units from Uneekor (and the expensive Hawk from Foresight) would be options for that category.
I'll have the written review of the Uneekor Eye Mini up by early next week, and a video likely right after Thanksgiving. Unfortunately haven't tested any of the overhead units, but you're right as those are definitely best options for both RH/LH - but significantly more expensive is a major downside.
@@breakingeighty Yes, maybe someday someone will release a sub $5k overhead that is comparable. I almost bought Mevo+ 3.5 years ago but it was on backorder forever. So went with Uneekor QED (Eye was not out yet). Been a solid machine with the exception of some hiccups with recent software updates.
Great video, very helpful. Was not able to pull the quiz up. I am preparing my garage up here in the great white north for a launch monitor. I expect to use the range 90% of the time the other 10% friends and family simulator. I will likely only use in winter months and am not going to move it from garage to outdoor. I am leaning toward Mevo, no subscription + I am assuming that it works for the righty lefty challenge better. Is this assumption correct. Thanks Wilfy
I'm also on the fence. The only thing that Rapsodo has going for me is the shot tracer. That's just such a usual tool. That being said, i'll be using mine in the backyard 95% of the time (perks of commie So Cal), so the shot tracer won't work. With the R10, the club data alone tips the scales for me. I'd just get the right ball and play the free sim courses and buy the monthly whenever i want it. Honestly, none of these budget monitors will give us real-world numbers. Heck, hitting range balls is so far from real-world and always will be. Crappy balls. What i want is a monitor that is accurate relative to the desired shot and shape i'm hitting. If it shows me a launch angle of 20* and i hit a knock-down on the next, i'd like to see that shown. Say 15 or so. I don't care about its comparison with the Bushnell...
@@johndorne9572 I went with the Rapsodo. The required minimum space and the included RPT balls are a must. It really is impressive and the Combine and Practice modes are awesome. Not to mention the Rapsodo courses and the 6 free E6 courses... That being said, the Mevo Plus just seems better all the way around but I couldn't afford that big of a single bang purchase.
What was the issue you highlighted during your MLM2PRO that was corrected? Range mode during the combine leading to missed shots? Difficulty to review key metrics after each shot? Wi-Fi/connection issues?
All of these have theoretically been improved on some level. I haven't been experiencing any connection issues with it. The biggest one I had which has been corrected was missing shots during Combine mode. That seems to have been corrected. They've also worked on some UI updates to make reviewing things easier.
Great video, Sean. One of the other historical downsides with the Rapsodo was the need to purchase the RPT balls to get spin axis, and they are crazy expensive for most people (especially those overseas). They also limit the user to using Chrome Soft X golf balls, which isn't ideal if you want to test suitability of golf balls, or get your specs and you are typically a user of another ball. However, the introduction of Rapsodo Ball Dot stickers allows you to add the patterns to any golf ball and is MUCH more affordable. This has been a big win for Rapsodo users. Also, as someone living in Australia, I want to know where you rate Royal Melbourne and New South Wales on your Top 100 now that you have experienced them! Don't make us wait until you re-release your Top 100 in December! Cheers, Graeme
Hi-- I am new to your youtube channel and LOVE it. I had a quick question-- have you reviewed the Uneekor QED launch monitor? I couldn't seem to find anything on your site or youtube page. I am not sure whether I should get that one or the Bushnell Launch Pro for my at home sim setup. Any thoughts? Thanks!
Good review of the products. I recently bought the Rapsodo MLM Pro2 but have not unboxed it. I have been too busy with work. It has everything I need and too much info like face impact is too technical for a weekend player. I’m not going pro at 63. I’m only a projector purchase from a simulator space. Do you have a projector review video?
You forget to mention that the Bushnell Launch Pro is REGION LOCKED TO US ONLY, kind of a big deal. I found that out because it sounds perfect for me, wondering why Bushnell Australia didnt even have it listed, went to Bushnell US and it had that in capital letters on the page.
Which launch monitor do you recommend when hitting into a net with limited space from the mat to the net? For example, the Rapsodo MLM suggests 8 feet from the mat to the net - I don't have that much space
I used your quiz and the question you don't ask is space. I already know I can't use radar as I don't have enough space to get accurate measurements for my indoor setup. Might need to add that question in your quiz to push smaller space people towards camera launch monitors.
Does the FlightScope give you accurate distance numbers in the 40 - 100 yard "scoring range"? That's what I'm really interested in. Thank you im advance for your reply 👍
This video is just as I’d imagine. No questions left about the products that are presented here. Only thing I would’ve liked to see, would be a comparison between the consumer level products, and the professional products like GCquad and trackman. But this critique makes my comment seem too critical. The video is really just perfect besides that.
The main problem with the garmin R10, is setting it up, apparently it doesn’t like concrete around it and also I’ve experienced it telling me that I’ve sliced a shot that I could see I drew.
trackman has an absolutley awsome interface and its oiverall integration with the app works so well for me as a custom fitter and coach. I can teach and give in depth lessons witht he camera systems or even use my phone! getting them to go practice on a trackman range after so i can also treack their practice sessions without me helps alot too!
I was so missing a category for units capable of showing club data. If you want to use it as a training device and not as a simulator then club data is key.
Great review and I love your channel. What is your opinion of the SLX MicroSim system? I just got one for $170 with the included telescoping stick. I can attach it to my actual golf clubs, and it included a subscription to E6. So far I am finding it works well and provides a lot of flight information. How does it compare to the other low cost systems you reviewed here?
Garage/Theater/Simulator is being built this month. Your recommendations are always spot on. I will be buying the FS Mevo+. Well done. Here’s hoping the special pricing continues since I am about 80 days away from ordering.
My advice would be to sign up to the flightscope mailing list and wait till near a big event, I have had a mevo+ for about 18 months and there are multiple emails a year with discount offers. Mostly around majors, Father’s Day, thanksgiving, Christmas etc. if you are able to wait a few weeks there will generally be a sale on at some point. I get emails probably every 4-8 weeks on average with sales.
Yeah agree with what the person below says. If I had to guess, there will be another big sale around the Open Championship in a few weeks, and then possibly around Labor Day. But if you're looking to guarantee you get it at the lowest price possible, you might pick it up a bit sooner during the next sale. If there were to ever be a lull in sales (which I don't expect to happen, but certainly could) it'd be between the Open and Black Friday.
@@Mr.Helper.you can use Skytrak+, hit Sci-Core practice balls into a net, & use Rokid Max AR glasses & a Goovis Cast in lieu of a projector/screen. The Skytrak+ only requires a few inches of travel to extrapolate the ball flight path; hitting the Sci-Core balls into a net is quiet, & the Sci-Core balls measure identically to Callaway Supersoft Max golf balls. Or you can start out with the Phigolf 2 & avoid hitting balls entirely. Optishot with Sci-Core balls or flat golf balls & Rokid Air Max may also be an option for you.
I’ve had both Flightscope mevo plus, got smashed on the highway (never leave ‘‘em on the roof of your Jeep). Now I have the BLP and I like the 2 ft to the right better than the 8 ft behind and 8 ft in front (or whatever it is). I don’t really like the subscription of the BLP though. Question for a non-tech person With the BLP if I get a gaming PC to do simulator do I have to have a full setup with projector and screen and all that? Or can I just hit into a net and look over at the gaming laptop see the course and game that way? Excellent content, helped me to purchase both my devices, may the MEVO RIP
Yeah the ol' Mevo-on-top-of-the-jeep trick never works out well haha And if you don't want to do full simulator, you can absolutely just look over at your computer screen. Alternatively if you have a regular tv close by, you could use HDMI to connect to that as well.
Thank you for the very interesting report! My question: when comparing your overall winner, the Flightscope, with one of the very-high-cost-monitors, e.g., Trackman, what is still in favour of Trackman? In case there remains nothing, then the Trackman industry (and other comparable expensive companies) will not survive the next few years.
Need a "best for the range only" recommendation. I don't have a home setup, so it's the range only. I opted for the Garmin due to this. Love the reviews!!
The Garmin is great for this. I also really like the SC4 for a similar price. Having the built in screen and remote, just makes things a lot easier on the range, so you don't have to deal with an app if you don't want to.
Awesome as always. Do you have a hitting mat breakdown video/article? Working on my sim/practice setup in my new home and buying turf without trying it first scares me to death for some reason.
Is the wave more or less accurate than mevo+, … on critical, but “secondary” metrics such as spin, spin axis, aoa, face angles,… I wouldn’t but it just for putting, or just for “the fun factor”, but really intrigued by these metrics cs mevo+, bushnell or even r10
I've not! I tried to get my hands on one, but wasn't happening. What I've heard from people who have used it is that the user-interace is really good. The data? Not as much. But that's totally third party info, so take it with a big grain of salt.
I would like a home simulator to mostly play courses with friends. We are mixed right and left handed players. None of these videos mention if right and left handed players can use that at the same time without moving the device. Looking for helpful info on this please.
I’m looking for affordable and I need launch angle, 5 months ago I was attacking in the 12-13 degree, now I’m down to 3-5 degrees. This launch angle if the key to what I need for better practice. Any suggestions on which launch monitor would be best and affordable, say under $1,000.
I’ve been having some SERIOUS connection issue with the MLM2PRO. Spin rate is awesome to have but I can rarely play a full 18 on a simulator without it disconnecting me. Only problem I’ve had with it.
The SC4 is technically the optishot orbit, which has a plethora of courses. The mlm2pro does actually display all metrics, you just have to go to the rapsodo sim range and click the button 😎
Thanks for the great video, I’m looking for a launch monitor to use at the golf nets at my course for a pre round warm up. Ideally, I’d like to know how far the ball is going and the shot shape. Other information like spin etc would be nice to have. My main issue is set up - it needs to be set up close to the ball, ideally side on and not from behind and the ball flight is only 2 meters till it hits the net. I also want the unit to be small enough to pop in my bag Any recommendations based on those requirements?
It certainly wont be the most accurate, but you might consider the Garmin G80. I cant think of any other side positioned products that are small and affordable. It's the perfect warm up device. breakingeighty.com/garmin-approach-g80-review
@@breakingeighty thanks for that. I ave been using the g80 and its great for distances but doesn’t give any directional feedback so i have no idea if its a slice or a hook when hitting in a net
your quiz says I should use the raspodo when all I want is something to use at the range. It's the one that requires the special balls...that I can't use at the range..
Great Video, i am thinking of building one with the mevo Plus. But my garage is only 18foot long so pretty much the minimum for mevo plus, would you still recommend it at that size
Yah with 18 feet, I think you'll be totally fine. Just stretch as much as you can to get as close to 8 feet behind the ball, and 8 feet to the screen. If size is a significant issue, and you don't want to worry about it at all, then I'd go with the Launch Pro or Skytrak+ depending on if you want the flexibility of taking it to the range (in which case, go with the Bushnell).
@@cappy69uk Ah yes, if UK, that wont be an option. Its more expensive upfront, but not sure if the GC3 is available in UK? It's essentially the exact same, with different branding and payment structure. But that's a big leap up in price from Mevo+
@@breakingeighty yeah i was thinking about it, but it doesn’t have face data, just club path, which was one thing i kind of want, too much choices😂 GC3 saves space and accurate, Mevo plus cheaper but would require more space and bigger Mat etc so that it remains all one level between tee and monitor.
Did you test/review the Uneekor Eye Mini? It might give the BLP a run for its money, although initial price is higher than the BLP subscription fees over the long haul with even things up.
Is it true that the Garmin R10 collects data (from your range sessions) and passes it to your Garmin watch, so when you are playing the yardage from the virtual caddie will recommend the best club for that distance, using the information gained from your range sessions???
I dont know that it does that using data from the R10. I know it definitely does this with the data it gets from shot tracking with watch and/or CT10 sensors. I'll look into it and see what I can find out though. Regardless the S70 has the best virtual caddie data of any device (including Arccos).
I feel like the Mevo+ is great value if you like to take it to the range outside. Home use was very disappointing, had inconsistent results, and burdensome to setup. Also the battery is very suspect and my unit failed right around a year. Flightscope has good customer service but also requires a lot of mailing the unit back and troubleshooting. Didn’t feel like the juice was worth the endless squeezing.
I'm curious how the Mevo + fares against the more basic Mevo which is similar in price to the Rapsodo MLM. Mind comparing Mevo basic vs Rapsodo MLM also? Thanks
The Mevo Plus is far superior in basically every way over regular Mevo. I've found Mevo more accurate vs Rapsodo, but Rapsodo has way more features. This should help: breakingeighty.com/rapsodo-vs-mevo
I don't understand how all you TH-cam guys say one is more accurate than the other... I mean unless you're slowing down time and counting every spin on every hit and measuring how far and all that how can you tell one is more accurate than the other?
I have the rapsodo MLM and use it in a outdoor net, I set it up with all the correct distances but it still gives me completely wrong info, like a 45 degree launch angle on my 2 iron when I pure it etc, seems impossible to get it to read above 150 carry. No idea how to fix this sadly
Yeah honestly, thats what's tricky about some of the budget monitors. Especially when you're hitting into a net, it can be tough for it to get enough data to truly give accurate results. I've had mostly acceptable results with it on the range, but for $300, you kind of have to temper expectations with that one.
I’ve found some issues when I don’t take the time to set it up properly. But when I do, it’s great. Similar for just about every launch monitor I’ve tried. This video might help: th-cam.com/video/Cv73oMG7cpY/w-d-xo.html
No Full Swing Kit review or comparison. I had the Launch Pro about 1-1/2 years ago and way to many connection issues with 2 different monitors and a lot of wasted time on the phone with Foresight.
The huge downside of the rhapsodo MLM that MUST be shared is that it cannot be used as a simulator hitting into a net. When we first got it it actually did show simulation into the net but then it stopped, which is such a shame. They need to do something to allow customers to get simulation into a net (not 4o yards away). If they or anyone can that at this price range Than that would be the best option imo.
@@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656 No idea but it works for me. I’m 8.5’ from the impact screen and the Rapsodo is 6’ behind me on a 1” thick piece of wood due to mat height.
If I started down this path with the Flight Scope, what if any packages with it would you recommend? I am wanting this to help improve my game, so I plan on taking it to the range but also want to be able to play rounds during the winter months.
Great video - What's your suggestion for this use case. 99% outdoor range use - used for gaping and "club fitting". As someone who likes to tinker I'd love to be able to compare clubs with consistency. So swing path, swing speed, angles, etc! Doesn't have to be PGA Tour accurate, I'm a 5hc, but would love to have data to backup my iron choices. I know, go get fit, but what's the fun in doing that when you can tinker! haha. @breakingeighty
If it's in budget, I'd absolutely go with Mevo Plus in this case. I think the software is best for that type of use, and it's the cheapest one where you can rely pretty heavily on the data you're getting. If it's a little too expensive, then I'd go with MLM2PRO.
You call the Rapsodo MLM2 an "Under $1000" launch monitor, but then proceed to evaluate it including its subscription only features. If you are going to evaluate is in the under $1000 range, you need to exclude those features. If a person uses those features, over its life of 5 years or so, it's a $2000 launch monitor.
Besides the new Skytrak, I am intrigued by the new Uneekor Eye Mini. My guess is your list will change again in 2024 as it seems this product space is rapidly changing. Curious when Garmin will announce their new R20!
Yeah it's been wild how quickly new products are rolling out. Everyone has their own pros and cons, but by and large the quality is getting better at lower price points - which is huge win for us as golfers.
Garmin has a patent out for a side mounted unit, using dopplar and photometric measurements. Haven’t heard release dates yet! Rhapsodo/skytrak had its patent for the mlm2 for at least 3 years before it launched
I would buy the Bushnell in a second if they sold the damn things outside the US. I don't understand why they would make it so it won't work in Canada???
You're totally right, and I should show more of me using the products. The reason I haven't is two fold: 1) It's a lot more work to setup camera/lighting etc while testing than it is to do separately. 2) The bigger reason, is because I've seen so many reviews of products that are too slow. People hitting shots, waiting, reading data. To me it feels tedious. Doing it this way, I'm able to quickly and concisely share all of my thoughts from the testing, and hopefully make a video that's more informative in the process. But I hear you, definitely can and should have more visuals of the products in use for sure.
would love to see an "open source" golf launch monitor come out and help lower the costs of subscription fees and addon fees etc from the big guys. Its only a matter of time before someone releases an affordable unit with open source software and community involvement.
That would be awesome
And let me guess, your running Linux on your laptop. Same here.
Cheers!
Most of the Uneekor LM's are like that. Only the new mini requires a subscription. But all the overhead units do not require one and work with just about every sim on the market
I recently purchased the PRGR Launch Monitor $229. Its quite accurate radar based you can check all of the TH-cam videos on its operation and appeal. The simplicity and its compactness makes this PRGR my pocket launch monitor. And by pocket monitor I mean it fits in your pocket.Turn it on select your club set it behind the ball and receive Club head speed, Ball speed, Smash factor Carry and Total distance with a very intuitive 4 key board control. In the house while practicing my swing I can place it behind where the ball would go, swing and get the club speed only without actually having to hit a ball. It also has a setting for measuring ball speed for baseball and soccer.
For the under $300 best of launch monitors I give it to the PRGR. And just as recent a golf buddy just bought a PRGR 10.5° driver and 15° 3 wood. PRGR is a Japanese sports golf manufacturer that I never heard of till late more popular in Europe that makes a very decent launch monitor for cheap.
That thing is garbage, lol.... you got hosed.
My first time listening to you, Sean. Very well researched and narrated; interesting, engaging, realistic. Thank you.
Thanks so much!
Have been using the original skytrak for over 4 years in my garage setting. Works fine, very accurate, needs less space. Very happy with it. Has helped improve my swing a lot. No need to go to the range. If I go to the range just see where the ball goes with my eyes 😅
Love it!
Good Job Flight Scope!! I'm glad I made this decision a couple of years ago.
Mlm2pro not having face to path is a deal breaker and why I haven’t traded my R10. I’ve had the R10 since launch and after updates over the years, it’s gotten pretty good. the casual golfer looking to improve out to in swing path, gap irons, and play as a sim really doesn’t need anything else.
Did you ever compare accuracy of these metrics with the likes of the mevo+? Close enough?
just a bit of fun...Your videos are very informative and definitely help cut through the myriad of products out there so we can make the right decision on which products best fit our needs.
Incredibly helpful video! Thank you for taking the time to create this roundup. If I'm needing club data to help me try to dial in my high handicap swing, which unit(s) would you steer me towards? If that doesn't help narrow it down enough, my second most requested feature would be to easily see a replay of my swing so I can pinpoint what I'm doing wrong.
I was leaning towards the MLM 2 Pro for the impact camera, but it seems like it might be a little too zoomed in to help my use case. I also heard it takes a long time for the replay to be viewable, at least on early release models. Perhaps they've since patched it? The MLM's consumer level of data offerings also gives me pause. The Mevo Plus was another alternative that caught my eye 6 months ago, but am curious if something else has released or is on the horizon that would be worth waiting for.
A few other variables - will be mostly used outside on a covered porch. I will have access to a TV and gaming PC, if needed. Simulator/virtual golf isn't a big selling point & I'd rather have more data. Looking for an option for under $1000-$1500 or maybe something that ticks all of the boxes for under $2000-$2500, if possible.
Thanks!
Yeah in my experience the impact camera really does very little in terms of helping you review single details. It's really there to allow the MLM2PRO to track the RPT balls for accurate spin data. That said, it does a very good job of allowing you to easily review your swings after every shot. It does so automatically, and is probably my favorite launch monitor for that specific purpose.
I'd personally probably go for the Mevo Plus, despite the higher price. It does such a good job of allowing you to customize data and how it's displayed, plus it's the most versatile for getting even more data, expanding into more simulator offerings etc. It's also what I'd say, the most professional of the consumer level offerings, most from a software and hardware perspective. And it also does a good job of allowing you to replay video, as well as use multiple cameras if that's something you're into.
Either way though, both are excellent devices for what they are, and I think you'll be happy with whichever one you go for.
SC4 doesn't detect side spin as far as I am aware - all shots are straight - quite a big issue when trying to use it with a simulator. Garmin R10 does pick up hooks/slices
Would like to see what monitor works best with hybrid clubs & how to best use a monitor with hybrids. Can't find anything online related to monitors & hybrids.
First time watching one of your videos, and I'm expecting you to hit over 100k subscribers soon with this kind of quality content. Loved this!
Best comment of the week, thanks!
Really wrestling with going with the Skytrak+ or the Bushnell Launch Pro. I like some of the of the things like the club matrix with the Skytrak+ but based on what I've read/seen, while both are extremely accurate, the Bushnell seems to be better on putts and high loft irons. I will primarily be using this monitor for practice and simulation in doors, but the ability to use it outdoors is appealing! Your thoughts/recommendations?
Have been using the mevo plus for a few years in my home sim. Putting is not so good but paired with GSPRO with the auto-putt setting, it has been pretty awesome.
Yeah putting is about as barebones as it gets, which is the case with moth simulators! But Mevo Plus and GSPRO is one of the best setups out there for the money.
Have you got a putting matt ?
I have full turf @@Robbski1616726
I have putting @@Robbski1616726
Did you test any of the Uneekor options? Should have a pick for best device for LH/RH players. While you can argue the mevo+ can do it, it sucks for chipping and putting and you need tons of space. The overhead units from Uneekor (and the expensive Hawk from Foresight) would be options for that category.
I'll have the written review of the Uneekor Eye Mini up by early next week, and a video likely right after Thanksgiving. Unfortunately haven't tested any of the overhead units, but you're right as those are definitely best options for both RH/LH - but significantly more expensive is a major downside.
@@breakingeighty Yes, maybe someday someone will release a sub $5k overhead that is comparable. I almost bought Mevo+ 3.5 years ago but it was on backorder forever. So went with Uneekor QED (Eye was not out yet). Been a solid machine with the exception of some hiccups with recent software updates.
Great video, very helpful. Was not able to pull the quiz up. I am preparing my garage up here in the great white north for a launch monitor. I expect to use the range 90% of the time the other 10% friends and family simulator. I will likely only use in winter months and am not going to move it from garage to outdoor. I am leaning toward Mevo, no subscription + I am assuming that it works for the righty lefty challenge better. Is this assumption correct. Thanks Wilfy
I'm also on the fence. The only thing that Rapsodo has going for me is the shot tracer. That's just such a usual tool.
That being said, i'll be using mine in the backyard 95% of the time (perks of commie So Cal), so the shot tracer won't work.
With the R10, the club data alone tips the scales for me. I'd just get the right ball and play the free sim courses and buy the monthly whenever i want it.
Honestly, none of these budget monitors will give us real-world numbers. Heck, hitting range balls is so far from real-world and always will be. Crappy balls.
What i want is a monitor that is accurate relative to the desired shot and shape i'm hitting. If it shows me a launch angle of 20* and i hit a knock-down on the next, i'd like to see that shown. Say 15 or so. I don't care about its comparison with the Bushnell...
What are your thoughts on my rambling? 😂
Did you end up getting the Mevo?
@@johndorne9572 I went with the Rapsodo. The required minimum space and the included RPT balls are a must. It really is impressive and the Combine and Practice modes are awesome. Not to mention the Rapsodo courses and the 6 free E6 courses...
That being said, the Mevo Plus just seems better all the way around but I couldn't afford that big of a single bang purchase.
What was the issue you highlighted during your MLM2PRO that was corrected? Range mode during the combine leading to missed shots? Difficulty to review key metrics after each shot? Wi-Fi/connection issues?
All of these have theoretically been improved on some level. I haven't been experiencing any connection issues with it. The biggest one I had which has been corrected was missing shots during Combine mode. That seems to have been corrected. They've also worked on some UI updates to make reviewing things easier.
Thanks! Keep up the great work! I’ll be buying the MLM2PRO soon
Great video, Sean.
One of the other historical downsides with the Rapsodo was the need to purchase the RPT balls to get spin axis, and they are crazy expensive for most people (especially those overseas). They also limit the user to using Chrome Soft X golf balls, which isn't ideal if you want to test suitability of golf balls, or get your specs and you are typically a user of another ball.
However, the introduction of Rapsodo Ball Dot stickers allows you to add the patterns to any golf ball and is MUCH more affordable. This has been a big win for Rapsodo users.
Also, as someone living in Australia, I want to know where you rate Royal Melbourne and New South Wales on your Top 100 now that you have experienced them! Don't make us wait until you re-release your Top 100 in December!
Cheers,
Graeme
What would your "value pick" be for working on shot shapes hitting into a net?
Yea that would be very interesting
Hi-- I am new to your youtube channel and LOVE it. I had a quick question-- have you reviewed the Uneekor QED launch monitor? I couldn't seem to find anything on your site or youtube page. I am not sure whether I should get that one or the Bushnell Launch Pro for my at home sim setup. Any thoughts? Thanks!
Good review of the products. I recently bought the Rapsodo MLM Pro2 but have not unboxed it. I have been too busy with work. It has everything I need and too much info like face impact is too technical for a weekend player. I’m not going pro at 63. I’m only a projector purchase from a simulator space. Do you have a projector review video?
You forget to mention that the Bushnell Launch Pro is REGION LOCKED TO US ONLY, kind of a big deal. I found that out because it sounds perfect for me, wondering why Bushnell Australia didnt even have it listed, went to Bushnell US and it had that in capital letters on the page.
Incredible video! Very detailed and informative. One day I'll be able to build my dream golf simulator. 😅
Which launch monitor do you recommend when hitting into a net with limited space from the mat to the net? For example, the Rapsodo MLM suggests 8 feet from the mat to the net - I don't have that much space
I used your quiz and the question you don't ask is space. I already know I can't use radar as I don't have enough space to get accurate measurements for my indoor setup. Might need to add that question in your quiz to push smaller space people towards camera launch monitors.
any plans to review the Uneekor Eye Mini? seems to be a major competitor to the BLP you seem to love
Have one that should be coming in the next 4-6 weeks!
Does the FlightScope give you accurate distance numbers in the 40 - 100 yard "scoring range"? That's what I'm really interested in. Thank you im advance for your reply 👍
Which device under 1000 would you recommend to use on a driving range with driving range balls, I’ve read the R10 struggles?
Hi! New viewer here! Love your content but I think it would be more helpful if you overlay more examples of how the products work. Keep it up man!
This video is just as I’d imagine. No questions left about the products that are presented here. Only thing I would’ve liked to see, would be a comparison between the consumer level products, and the professional products like GCquad and trackman. But this critique makes my comment seem too critical. The video is really just perfect besides that.
The main problem with the garmin R10, is setting it up, apparently it doesn’t like concrete around it and also I’ve experienced it telling me that I’ve sliced a shot that I could see I drew.
Sad to say I just discovered your channel but man what a great video!!!👍
Good video! Hopefully you will get your hands on a Skytrak+, Eye Mini and FS Kit to test!
trackman has an absolutley awsome interface and its oiverall integration with the app works so well for me as a custom fitter and coach. I can teach and give in depth lessons witht he camera systems or even use my phone! getting them to go practice on a trackman range after so i can also treack their practice sessions without me helps alot too!
Absolutely! Trackman is still the gold standard. Just a little outside the scope of this video for the general consumer, golfer ha.
I was so missing a category for units capable of showing club data. If you want to use it as a training device and not as a simulator then club data is key.
Great review and I love your channel. What is your opinion of the SLX MicroSim system? I just got one for $170 with the included telescoping stick. I can attach it to my actual golf clubs, and it included a subscription to E6. So far I am finding it works well and provides a lot of flight information. How does it compare to the other low cost systems you reviewed here?
Have you ever tested the Mevo+ “Indoor Short Mode” I can’t find much info on it other than it only requires 16’
Garage/Theater/Simulator is being built this month. Your recommendations are always spot on. I will be buying the FS Mevo+. Well done. Here’s hoping the special pricing continues since I am about 80 days away from ordering.
My advice would be to sign up to the flightscope mailing list and wait till near a big event, I have had a mevo+ for about 18 months and there are multiple emails a year with discount offers. Mostly around majors, Father’s Day, thanksgiving, Christmas etc. if you are able to wait a few weeks there will generally be a sale on at some point. I get emails probably every 4-8 weeks on average with sales.
Yeah agree with what the person below says. If I had to guess, there will be another big sale around the Open Championship in a few weeks, and then possibly around Labor Day. But if you're looking to guarantee you get it at the lowest price possible, you might pick it up a bit sooner during the next sale. If there were to ever be a lull in sales (which I don't expect to happen, but certainly could) it'd be between the Open and Black Friday.
you so lucky .. i am stuck in a condo .. my dream is to have an indoor golf simulator someday
Mevo is a mistake. Get the Skytrak+.
@@Mr.Helper.you can use Skytrak+, hit Sci-Core practice balls into a net, & use Rokid Max AR glasses & a Goovis Cast in lieu of a projector/screen. The Skytrak+ only requires a few inches of travel to extrapolate the ball flight path; hitting the Sci-Core balls into a net is quiet, & the Sci-Core balls measure identically to Callaway Supersoft Max golf balls.
Or you can start out with the Phigolf 2 & avoid hitting balls entirely. Optishot with Sci-Core balls or flat golf balls & Rokid Air Max may also be an option for you.
I’ve had both Flightscope mevo plus, got smashed on the highway (never leave ‘‘em on the roof of your Jeep). Now I have the BLP and I like the 2 ft to the right better than the 8 ft behind and 8 ft in front (or whatever it is). I don’t really like the subscription of the BLP though.
Question for a non-tech person
With the BLP if I get a gaming PC to do simulator do I have to have a full setup with projector and screen and all that? Or can I just hit into a net and look over at the gaming laptop see the course and game that way?
Excellent content, helped me to purchase both my devices, may the MEVO RIP
Yeah the ol' Mevo-on-top-of-the-jeep trick never works out well haha
And if you don't want to do full simulator, you can absolutely just look over at your computer screen. Alternatively if you have a regular tv close by, you could use HDMI to connect to that as well.
Great video. Very informative and helpful.
Would love to see a comparison of Mevo+ and skytrak+.
Thank you for the very interesting report! My question: when comparing your overall winner, the Flightscope, with one of the very-high-cost-monitors, e.g., Trackman, what is still in favour of Trackman? In case there remains nothing, then the Trackman industry (and other comparable expensive companies) will not survive the next few years.
Need a "best for the range only" recommendation. I don't have a home setup, so it's the range only. I opted for the Garmin due to this. Love the reviews!!
The Garmin is great for this. I also really like the SC4 for a similar price. Having the built in screen and remote, just makes things a lot easier on the range, so you don't have to deal with an app if you don't want to.
R10 with Awesome Golf or Skytrak+.
Awesome as always. Do you have a hitting mat breakdown video/article? Working on my sim/practice setup in my new home and buying turf without trying it first scares me to death for some reason.
I dont have a video, but I'd absolutely check out Fiberbuilt mats.
Mevo+ is great BUT outdoor wedge spin accuracy was way off for me. Worried about these “secondary” metrics… I returned the device
Is the wave more or less accurate than mevo+, … on critical, but “secondary” metrics such as spin, spin axis, aoa, face angles,… I wouldn’t but it just for putting, or just for “the fun factor”, but really intrigued by these metrics cs mevo+, bushnell or even r10
Did you have a chance to review the Full Swing LM? If so, what did you think of it?
I've not! I tried to get my hands on one, but wasn't happening. What I've heard from people who have used it is that the user-interace is really good. The data? Not as much. But that's totally third party info, so take it with a big grain of salt.
Would love to see a comparison of Mevo+ and skytrak+.. Would love to see a comparison of Mevo+ and skytrak+..
Great review. Can't wait to see the skytrak + full review as that's the one I'm leaning towards.
Surprised the skyrak wasn’t even on the list
I wanna start golf simulator business so can you please suggest best simulator that I should be looking at.
I would like a home simulator to mostly play courses with friends. We are mixed right and left handed players. None of these videos mention if right and left handed players can use that at the same time without moving the device. Looking for helpful info on this please.
Did you update the firmware? I heard they fixed
The spin accuracy numbers
Please do compare r10 with the sc4. I’ll be waiting for that video. Thanks
I’m looking for affordable and I need launch angle, 5 months ago I was attacking in the 12-13 degree, now I’m down to 3-5 degrees. This launch angle if the key to what I need for better practice. Any suggestions on which launch monitor would be best and affordable, say under $1,000.
Can you use 'almost golf balls ' in a indoor setting can still get accurate performance data from any of these launch monitors?
I’ve been having some SERIOUS connection issue with the MLM2PRO. Spin rate is awesome to have but I can rarely play a full 18 on a simulator without it disconnecting me. Only problem I’ve had with it.
The SC4 is technically the optishot orbit, which has a plethora of courses.
The mlm2pro does actually display all metrics, you just have to go to the rapsodo sim range and click the button 😎
Great info!
Which units can measure dynamic loft?
Btw for the Rapsodo Mlm 2 pro in simulation driving range mode u can see all the statistics on the screen while hitting
Would love to see the r10 vs the skytrack plus and putting effectiveness / setup for each device.
When are you getting to test the skytrack plus ?
Love the video. I want a launch monitor so bad!
Great video pal
How does skytrak fit into this list? Pros and cons?
I love my Mevo+ except it has really sensitive power cable/battery and you can easily fry your unit..
The Skytrak+ is fab. R10/Awesome Golf has now been relegated to backup status for me.
Thanks for the great video, I’m looking for a launch monitor to use at the golf nets at my course for a pre round warm up. Ideally, I’d like to know how far the ball is going and the shot shape. Other information like spin etc would be nice to have. My main issue is set up - it needs to be set up close to the ball, ideally side on and not from behind and the ball flight is only 2 meters till it hits the net. I also want the unit to be small enough to pop in my bag
Any recommendations based on those requirements?
It certainly wont be the most accurate, but you might consider the Garmin G80. I cant think of any other side positioned products that are small and affordable. It's the perfect warm up device. breakingeighty.com/garmin-approach-g80-review
@@breakingeighty thanks for that. I ave been using the g80 and its great for distances but doesn’t give any directional feedback so i have no idea if its a slice or a hook when hitting in a net
your quiz says I should use the raspodo when all I want is something to use at the range. It's the one that requires the special balls...that I can't use at the range..
Great Video, i am thinking of building one with the mevo Plus. But my garage is only 18foot long so pretty much the minimum for mevo plus, would you still recommend it at that size
Yah with 18 feet, I think you'll be totally fine. Just stretch as much as you can to get as close to 8 feet behind the ball, and 8 feet to the screen. If size is a significant issue, and you don't want to worry about it at all, then I'd go with the Launch Pro or Skytrak+ depending on if you want the flexibility of taking it to the range (in which case, go with the Bushnell).
@@breakingeighty id love the Bushnell although i think it is not for sale in U.K and noticed the software is region locked also
@@cappy69uk Ah yes, if UK, that wont be an option. Its more expensive upfront, but not sure if the GC3 is available in UK? It's essentially the exact same, with different branding and payment structure. But that's a big leap up in price from Mevo+
@@breakingeighty yeah i was thinking about it, but it doesn’t have face data, just club path, which was one thing i kind of want, too much choices😂 GC3 saves space and accurate, Mevo plus cheaper but would require more space and bigger Mat etc so that it remains all one level between tee and monitor.
in the uk the uneekor eye mini is better value the the gc3 and i think just as good if not better
Did you test/review the Uneekor Eye Mini? It might give the BLP a run for its money, although initial price is higher than the BLP subscription fees over the long haul with even things up.
Is it true that the Garmin R10 collects data (from your range sessions) and passes it to your Garmin watch, so when you are playing the yardage from the virtual caddie will recommend the best club for that distance, using the information gained from your range sessions???
I dont know that it does that using data from the R10. I know it definitely does this with the data it gets from shot tracking with watch and/or CT10 sensors. I'll look into it and see what I can find out though. Regardless the S70 has the best virtual caddie data of any device (including Arccos).
Thank you for your time and effort, it’s truly appreciated.
Great stuff.
I feel like the Mevo+ is great value if you like to take it to the range outside. Home use was very disappointing, had inconsistent results, and burdensome to setup. Also the battery is very suspect and my unit failed right around a year. Flightscope has good customer service but also requires a lot of mailing the unit back and troubleshooting. Didn’t feel like the juice was worth the endless squeezing.
Having battery issues with my Mevo+ too, just mailed it back to flightscope for repair.
Did you sell your unit?
Love my Mevo+!
I'm curious how the Mevo + fares against the more basic Mevo which is similar in price to the Rapsodo MLM. Mind comparing Mevo basic vs Rapsodo MLM also? Thanks
The Mevo Plus is far superior in basically every way over regular Mevo. I've found Mevo more accurate vs Rapsodo, but Rapsodo has way more features. This should help: breakingeighty.com/rapsodo-vs-mevo
No uneekor eye mini? Mevo sucks btw. Failed to mention GSPro and how all these integrate.
I'm still happy with my $180 PRGR.
I don't understand how all you TH-cam guys say one is more accurate than the other... I mean unless you're slowing down time and counting every spin on every hit and measuring how far and all that how can you tell one is more accurate than the other?
Has anyone compared face to path and club to path data between Mevo+ and BLP?
I have the rapsodo MLM and use it in a outdoor net, I set it up with all the correct distances but it still gives me completely wrong info, like a 45 degree launch angle on my 2 iron when I pure it etc, seems impossible to get it to read above 150 carry. No idea how to fix this sadly
Yeah honestly, thats what's tricky about some of the budget monitors. Especially when you're hitting into a net, it can be tough for it to get enough data to truly give accurate results. I've had mostly acceptable results with it on the range, but for $300, you kind of have to temper expectations with that one.
Could you do a golfzon wave review? Uneekor Mini?
Wave review coming in next few weeks. Working on a Uneekor connection.
wait, I'm supposed to the ball down under the Garmin G80 and hit the ball but NOT hit the G80 with my club? I don't understand.
Another video had the r10 more accurate than the mevo.
On Mevo+ forums on Facebook there seems to be all kinds of accuracy issues….have you seen this?
I’ve found some issues when I don’t take the time to set it up properly. But when I do, it’s great. Similar for just about every launch monitor I’ve tried. This video might help: th-cam.com/video/Cv73oMG7cpY/w-d-xo.html
What about skytrak and skytrak +
No Full Swing Kit review or comparison. I had the Launch Pro about 1-1/2 years ago and way to many connection issues with 2 different monitors and a lot of wasted time on the phone with Foresight.
Full Swing Launch monitor hands down is the real winner
Broke college student here!! Lol, mind if I can have that best price simulator for free. If not I get it.
Saw all new Swing Caddy 400 w Free App Hook up
no gc quad?
The huge downside of the rhapsodo MLM that MUST be shared is that it cannot be used as a simulator hitting into a net.
When we first got it it actually did show simulation into the net but then it stopped, which is such a shame.
They need to do something to allow customers to get simulation into a net (not 4o yards away).
If they or anyone can that at this price range Than that would be the best option imo.
Buy a $139 hitting screen and attach it to the net.
@@DanWessonSpecialistwhat would that do? Give me simulation hitting into the screen from close range ?
@@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656 No idea but it works for me. I’m 8.5’ from the impact screen and the Rapsodo is 6’ behind me on a 1” thick piece of wood due to mat height.
I am hitting into a net several times a week. Net is 8 feet from the ball, no issue. Using a Spornia SPG 7 net. Getting full data set from the MLM2.
Came for the ST+, didn’t have to stay for long. Ho well, maybe next time.
Sky Trak didn’t make the list?
If I started down this path with the Flight Scope, what if any packages with it would you recommend? I am wanting this to help improve my game, so I plan on taking it to the range but also want to be able to play rounds during the winter months.
Great video - What's your suggestion for this use case. 99% outdoor range use - used for gaping and "club fitting". As someone who likes to tinker I'd love to be able to compare clubs with consistency. So swing path, swing speed, angles, etc! Doesn't have to be PGA Tour accurate, I'm a 5hc, but would love to have data to backup my iron choices. I know, go get fit, but what's the fun in doing that when you can tinker! haha. @breakingeighty
If it's in budget, I'd absolutely go with Mevo Plus in this case. I think the software is best for that type of use, and it's the cheapest one where you can rely pretty heavily on the data you're getting. If it's a little too expensive, then I'd go with MLM2PRO.
@@breakingeighty Thanks!!
You call the Rapsodo MLM2 an "Under $1000" launch monitor, but then proceed to evaluate it including its subscription only features. If you are going to evaluate is in the under $1000 range, you need to exclude those features. If a person uses those features, over its life of 5 years or so, it's a $2000 launch monitor.
took the quiz, and it told me to keep my Garmin R10, lol
Probably not a bad move! It's still a great unit.
Besides the new Skytrak, I am intrigued by the new Uneekor Eye Mini. My guess is your list will change again in 2024 as it seems this product space is rapidly changing. Curious when Garmin will announce their new R20!
Yeah it's been wild how quickly new products are rolling out. Everyone has their own pros and cons, but by and large the quality is getting better at lower price points - which is huge win for us as golfers.
Garmin has a patent out for a side mounted unit, using dopplar and photometric measurements. Haven’t heard release dates yet! Rhapsodo/skytrak had its patent for the mlm2 for at least 3 years before it launched
I would buy the Bushnell in a second if they sold the damn things outside the US. I don't understand why they would make it so it won't work in Canada???
Flightscope forever #1 🤘🤘
I like the idea of this video, but, we have to take your word for it all, when you can easily, do videos using and showing us all these in action.
You're totally right, and I should show more of me using the products. The reason I haven't is two fold:
1) It's a lot more work to setup camera/lighting etc while testing than it is to do separately.
2) The bigger reason, is because I've seen so many reviews of products that are too slow. People hitting shots, waiting, reading data. To me it feels tedious. Doing it this way, I'm able to quickly and concisely share all of my thoughts from the testing, and hopefully make a video that's more informative in the process.
But I hear you, definitely can and should have more visuals of the products in use for sure.