Came here to say this! Aliens just make the most sense out of the imagery, strange phenomena, the puncture wound from the neck to the brain??? As well as the patterns of happening every so many years and to the same animals, and the smell of sulfur described? Honestly I could see a theory in which sulfur smell is a by-product of dimensional travel or something.
Right?!? They look exactly like the "gray men" described at Roswell and so many other places… I mean, that face! It was just an alien with some spikes!
I will never forget an American exchange student doing a report on Capybara's in our high school English class (public speaking on a topic of your choice) and our teacher interrupting to yell at him for not bothering to research the topic. She went on a rant about how Capybara's were vicious creatures that attacked livestock and killed babies. It wasn't until she said that their name meant "Goat Sucker" that the American student asked if she meant Chupacabra. Edit: Answers to main questions. I'm in Australia. The teacher didn't back down, so they got roasted for the next 3 years by not just us, but other classes who heard about it as well. The student was a really shy and quiet kid, I honestly don't remember anything about him before that day. He ended up being one of the popular kids by the time he headed back to the US
OMFGGGG 😂😂😂😂😂 This took me tf out, thank you for sharing! Teacher: Capybaras are vicious killing machines known for their brutal attacks against babies and livestock! Capybaras: *Giant, vegetarian water guinea pigs, literally known for being one of the chillest animals in the world who can vibe with like any other species.* Look lady, I'm just here to pull up at the after party!
literally a conversaion with my fiancee. We were talking about a line of artistic brooches for South American animals. "I hope they do a chupacabras!" well, they're not really South American, per se, originating in Puerto Rico in the mid 90s... ... the big cuddly rodent one? OH. CAPYBARA.
21:47 Ryan having Shane simulate the experience of being tired and seeing a a blood sucking creature in the night by making him do maybe three jumping jacks, and making him look at a dog in the dark then Shane immediately being correct has me in tears on the floor
Lol Puertorican here, had to do a project on this a long time ago. There are also interpretations where they describe it like a little green alien vampire.
Puerto Rican #2 here. Our chupacabra is everything but consistent. Sometimes grey, sometimes green. Spines, no spines. Big red eyes, black eyes. Wings, no wings. Our little dude is a damn shapeshifter and we love him for it.
Puerto Rican #3. I miss the days of cryptid doodles and graffiti everywhere. Even though I was around 6y/o when I first heard of it and was genuinely scared of vampires... the Chupacabra just seemed cute.
Puertorrican 3: I love how for a whole month we had people hunting for La Gárgola, which honestly is just a knock off chupacabras LMAO. PUERTO RICO ON TOP
Huge shoutout to whoever on production it was that scans Shane and Ryans notebooks after these episodes because seeing their cute little notes as they write them is a lot of fun in these episodes
the notebook notes element is amazing and different, I could see it being used more with little drawings and challenges and becoming a trademark Mystery Files thing
someone’s GOTTA fire the “veterinary specialist” who couldn’t recognize a dog with mange and went straight to “genetically engineered creature.” absolutely crazy I love it
Also the herpetologist with a doctorate who determined the Puerto Rican boa “doesn’t suck blood”, “can’t kill large animals” and is “non-poisonous”. Any reptile keeper on the planet could tell you those things without even looking at the snake. And we’ll assume that last one was a slip on the script-writer’s part, since no respectable herpetologist would ever call a venomous reptile “poisonous”. You bite it, you die - poisonous. It bites you, you die - venomous.
@@EmilyGrace20 I thought that Exact same thing at “poisonous” omfg!! Ur right, probably just a script/presentation thing but it’s so funny to imagine that all of the absolute WORST animal professionals came together to study Chupacabra evidence. just some truly dogshit scientists
Isn't mange also generally well known and recognizable for veterinarians because of just how many mammals can get it and how common it is? Like most people know what a mangy mutt is.
@@dragonsember you would be. surprised. to figure out just how many people can't recognize a coyote, let alone a coyote with mange. there's a reason why cryptids exist; people are just really fucking stupid sometimes.
Uh, that "specimen" that the lady has looks oddly familiar to a xoloitzcuintli. A wild dog from Mexico. Wrinkled skin, no fur, long face and legs. Literally fits the characteristics. This lady has to be capping
Exactly! I don't believe in those labs one bit, since it looks exactly like a xolo! And could also just be a dog with mange, again. However, the original happenings with drained blood and holes in throats and whatnot, don't seem like a dog's doings. The later ones absolutely do though
You’re both right, and he proved it as he then in the same episode like 5 minutes later was super dismissive towards the Puerto Rican farmers and how Ryan called it a mystery. 😂
question for debrief: As an Australian the description seems to be eerily similar to the Thylacine (Tasmanian Tiger) that is now extinct. They are marsupials (just like kangaroos), were able to open their jaw an unusual amount (up to 80 degrees), with a thick stiff tail and pouch, they look doglike with stripes down their back that could be confused for "feathers" in the dark. And according to Robert Paddle, originating from a second-hand account, the thylacine was characterised as a blood drinker throughout the 20th century. The were also historically shy and hid away from humans. Just something to think about.
just googled it. why is the rat dog so scary lookin omg. WHY can it open its mouth 90°??? that's terrifying. Also watching them open their mouths like that gives me the same creeps I get if I see an owl spin its head around 😮
If you take into account that witness testimonies tend to exaggerate because of fear, pretty much all of the initially described physical attributes align with a starving canid with mange.
@@sambranton3346Yeah but the cattle and other animals weren't mutilated though the only wounds found on them were the two puncture wounds like what a vampire would leave so that explanation isn't debunking shit for me.
For Debrief: Do you guys think that the chupacabra sightings in US and Mexico was perhaps just a stray Xoloitzcuintle (Mexican hairless dog)? Xolos are known for being completely hairless, however some are born with fur on their heads, feet, ears, and sometimes tail. This might explain the “feathers” people claim to see it had? The photos Dr. Phylis Canion took, and the taxidermy she had done looks just like a Xoloitzcuintle. It’s hard to believe it’s not just a Xolo with mange, rabies, or some kind of genetic defect.
I think like most cryptids, the original sightings are the most compelling. SOMETHING was killing those animals in the 70s, but once the myth of the chupacabra became popular, people started using it as an explanation for other much less strange occurrences.
In my expert opinion, it's what I would call "A load of ol' cobblers". Others might call it "bollocks" but I'm sticking with cobblers. They're just dogs, my man. Some of the animals were probably shot by the farmer and that's what the holes were. There's never been a proper autopsy showing blood draining that I've seen. And these "investigators" are always so coy. We never get to see the DNA report for ourselves. I wonder why?
@@aarondavis8943 i personally think it might be a sort of undiscovered 1m weasels. I'm guessing the holes were puncture marks from their teeth and the drained blood was just because the weasels went for places that they instinctively knew had a lot of important blood vessels and the animals bled to death. Weasels are notorious for killing and not eating their prey so that's what i figure
@@SpydrXIII so this is the best way a super intelligent space travelling alien can take blood samples? If an alien race can master deep space travel, their technology would be so far beyond that, I doubt they'd even have to enter our atmosphere to take any kind of reading they need.
@@aarondavis8943 In your expert opinion? What makes you an expert on any of this? Even if there was an autopsy that proved their blood was drained, you'd refuse to believe it because you don't like your idea of reality to be shaken and want to stay in your bubble.
When Ryan made Shane look at something quickly in the dark... I was hoping it was going to be Carter. I was hoping Carter would be our cryptid for the season.
I interned at a zoo in Missouri. Our information line got a call from a woman who was convinced there was a Chupacabra in her yard. Our keeper explained that those don't exist and to send a photo of the animal in her yard so we could identify it for animal control. She emailed us a photo from the internet when you google "chupacabra". We were like "No a photo that YOU took of the thing in your yard" and long story short, it was a dog with mange.
there's a few famous Aussie ones listed in the Fortean Times. "I found a thylacine! And I caught it! It has stripes!" - it was a brindle greyhound "I found a thylacine! It has stripes and everyting!" - it was a large quoll (so about the size of a housecat, not a dog).. which has spots.. "I found this weird mouse in the pool! It has webbed feet and hands!" - it was a bat
Oh man, I was so scared of being outside when as a child, I was visiting family in puerto rico around that time when the Chupacabra hysteria was at its highest, especially at night. Nearly had an anxiety attack every night when I have to sleep because my room was facing the forest and expected red eyes to appear and watch me as I tried to sleep.
As a native Puerto Rican who lived through the mass hysteria of the 1995 sightings (and is now writing a whole book about it), I am SO happy I didn't have to make yet more enemies of folks completely misconstruing the legend of the chupacabra. I'm legitimately impressed by the depth of research that went into this! El chupi is OUR legend, muchas gracias.
Yes!!! I was a child during this time and remember that it was happening in Puerto Rico, but as an adult, so many Americans believe it was a Mexican story
It made its way to Chile somehow, i lived in the desert in the 2000s and the story for us was that nasa sent the chupacabras here (why would they do that???) Miners would swear up and down they saw the chupacabra. As a kid whenever we were driving at night i would be looking for him through the window lmaoo
Would very much love to read your book someday! The Chupacabra was one of the original cryptids, that I learned about as a very young child, which sparked a lifelong fascination for cryptozoology. Love you, you freaky lil goat sucker
You two have the perfect chemistry. Anyone else telling these stories or anything else you guys do would be lackluster. I think everyone who watches is secretly hoping Shane sees a ghost just see him react. I never get tired of watching you two.
i studied vet tech in PR and was born and raised there, and my professor once told me it was all a conspiracy bc the farmers had some sort of rivalry with one another and they did that for sale and profit. the only reason they created the chupacabra was bc they needed to blame Something so they don't get in trouble with the law, so, coming from a puertorican, maybe shane IS onto something LMAO
Yeah I felt that the bite marks were too long for any teeth (they could literally be long tubes inserted and helped with draining the blood ) unless your talking about saber toothed Tiger.
I absolutely believe this. Sounds far too much like humans fucking around, especially how it just conveniently stopped after a short while. Also so convenient that only one family ever 'saw' it and convenienty saw it twice, and even wrestled with it, lmao, and only after that did other people suddenly claim seeing it. Also fucking hilarious to me that a dog with mange repeatedly getting blamed for it. That ranch owners obsessesion with her dog corpses is wild to me. Like lady, I worked at a dog shelter for a long ass time, that is literally just a dog with a skin condition.
Ryan has "middle schooler practicing their school presentation in front of their parents" vibes and Shane has "The Professor ™" vibes and well just go ahead and call me a Grunkle cuz I stan
I said it once and I’ll say it again! I like how they’ve kept it on brand over the years. In ghost hunting Ryan is the more batshit type due to him believing in ghosts while Shane is the scientific type because he doesn’t believe in them. In crime it’s the opposite, Ryan is the scientific type because he’s presenting while Shane is the batshit type because he’s listening and doesn’t have a clue about the crime being committed. It’s honestly weird to boil it down to that. I’m sure Ryan and Shane don’t boil it down like that for show concepts but it’s cool seeing them be themselves while being on brand ever since they started hosting together. Either one of them could be insane or scientific and it’s always a sight to behold no matter which one it is. These two boys are peak entertainment. Sorry for the ramble, hope you enjoyed the read! They both show their personalities immensely throughout each show they host.
I think it's important to note that first "witness" Madelyne had described the Chupacabra as looking like Sil from the movie Species, which at the time she believed to be real and prowling around Puerto Rico.They also never did any necropsy to confirm drained blood on any of the animals. It's mangey dogs.
Beat me to the punch. Omitting the taphonomy and Tolentino’s confusion about ‘Species vs reality’ really makes the case seem way more mysterious than not. And furthermore, just because some DNA doesn’t match the database doesn’t mean we’ve discovered something new or paranormal. It just means the sample wasn’t good enough - too old, degraded, etc.
It reminds me of how cattle and livestock “mutilation” cases also are said to have corpses drained of blood, but that is usually because the animal has been dead for a while and so its blood pools and gets broken down or eaten by insect scavengers etc. It usually comes down to people attributing natural phenomena to the supernatural.
i like that they are both wearing the same type of hat, but ryan has his ears subtly tucked in under the hat, while shane has his hat tucked boldly under his ears. truly a dynamic duo we have here.
For debrief: Just considering the initial murders that happened in Puerto Rico around 1975, could it be a cult or some kind of devil worshippers performing a ritual, or preparing for some ritual (like an animal sacrifice)? Since they largely targeted goats, which is often how the devil is depicted and they sucked out blood in a very specific way.
that's what I'm wondering. I want to know if there is any animal or pack of animals (what it looks like aside) that are native to puerto rico that could kill so many animals but not eat them? It's sounds so unusual that it seems to me like it had to be humans.
There have been other strange cases of livestock killings and blood drainings around the world "explained" in this way. There was a case more recently in France of horses found mutilated, without eyes, ears, AND blood. I think "cultists" was one of the first theories, even though it could not be explained exactly how or why exactly they carried it out.
@Raspberry1616 in a clip a man was talking about how a rich person hired a witch to do some "work' it was a dead animal i think goat i don't remember stuffed with money left out on the middle of the road , he said that for every bill taken will be traded for your own life
@marissaffs9824 lol nope Pets (or former pets, like feral dogs) are the biggest animals on Puerto Rico. Everything else that's wild/native are iguanas, geckos, parrots, changos (crows' scrawny squeaky cousins), frogs... Nothing big and/or bloodthirsty.
I find it very hard to believe that a vet in 2000 would not recognize a dog with mange. So either the body was in fact swapped, or the “vet” was the local drunk.
@@noctotainlowry9246i have seen a dog with mange maybe 3 times in my life and still i can identify it by just seeing it lmao people who get through med school at least have common sense
@@noctotainlowry9246 I don't know how it is in the US but in the UK it is just as hard (if not harder) to become a vet as it is a doctor. You need at least four years of higher education, practical experience in multiple disciplines (horses, livestock, pets, and small animals-the latter two are sometimes put into the same category but it depends on the university) as well as a broader understanding of biology than require for the medical field. I find it very unlikely that even a dropout-let alone a qualified vet-couldn't recognise a dog with mange, given it's both a very common animal and a very common disease. Heck, even ignoring the vet, most experienced farmers should be able to recognise mange, even if they can't always treat it. (Also the idea that being a vet is somehow easier than working in a hospital is laughable. Doctors have the luxury of specialised equipment made specifically for humans, while vets often have to improvise. Plus, outside of pediatrics, most doctors don't have to worry about being scratched or bitten by patients.
For debrief: Looking at Shane's drawing and reading the description I'd guess that what the girl and her mum saw was probably a porcupine - they can be about 3ft tall, are pretty stinky, can walk on their hind legs and would probably look pretty freaky in the middle of the night. It definitely wasn't a porcupine sucking on those goats though, they're herbivores!
Idk Porcupines really aren’t all that common, if they even exist at all in PR. I’ve never seen one living there. I think it was an Iguana de Palo- what they saw- before they became an invasive species. They sometimes run on two legs and kinda have spikes on their back
Not 100% convinced, but it's true that while they do have tails only some of them are prehensile and several breeds have short, stocky tails what aren't very visible at a distance
from what i can find, no species of porcupine is endemic to puerto rico. perhaps it was a vampire porcupine; that would explain both the blood-sucking and the supernatural strength it used to swim across the ocean
I just had an epiphany which now seems like something I should have realized long ago. I don't care what they're talking about, it's the fun and friendship between Shane and Ryan that keeps me coming back.
For Debrief: Hey guys! You didn't talk much about the holes in the animal's necks that led to their brains. That's what really freaked us out. Are there any theories to explain that?? Also, congrats to both of you! I'm super happy and proud to see all of your success and growth!
I’ve seen it in South America irl on a duck before, it looked completely flat and the wounds were surgical. That duck looked like the life was drained out of it and us not knowing what could’ve done something like that was chilling to say the least
That's what really struck me. It sounds like almost all of the first killings in Puerto Rico were done by draining the blood from the neck and i don't know any canines (or monkeys) that kill that way.
yeha the theories seem to be too focused on matching or roughly matching the physical description, not, yknow, HOW THE FUCK THE THING IS KILLING ANIMALS. YOU KNW. THE WHO REASON PEOPLE THINK ITS A MONSTERS AND NOT A FUCKING WILD ANIMAL.
The wild dog with mange theory seems strong to me. It explains the strange skin and when a dog is malnourished you can see its spine much easier (which could have been mistaken for spikes) Plus, in addition to mange it could have been suffering from rabies causing unusual behavior like standing on its hind legs or attacking livestock. Not to mention it could have just been born with no ears (genetic defect) or lost them in a fight.
Mange and Rabies sounds solid to me.... But why did they become vampires? Because last time I checked dogs and canines love just thrashing the sh*t out of everything they bite. That and they have a tendency to pick apart and eat the things they kill. Even counting rabies, those corpses should've been ripped up a bit more then they were. I also don't recall wild dogs sucking the blood out of things dry unless there's a fact about bleeding I don't know about. Everything about the rabid dogs with mange makes sense except for the blood sucking and fang marks.
But that doesn't explain the drained blood or the first alien like appearance that people described I don't care what anyone says mange and rabies doesn’t explain that.
@@GenericProtagonist118 Being sick, specially if sick in multiple ways. they may not have had the strength to do such. but dogs natural hunting instincts are to go for some important arteries in the neck of a beast as well (going after limbs if they have to, to bring it down but that isn't always preferred for them and in packs they will actually harry an animal to death over attacking it physically), which artery punctures can empty a body of blood pretty quickly. that arterial spray when somebody gets their throat cut in movies isn't entirely fake, and it doesn't only happen to humans.
But the long puncture wounds, especially going to the brain, are odd. Personally, I think the later accounts- maybe even starting with the sighting that the mother and daughter had- and the earlier killings were possibly unrelated to each other.
Debrief question: On an episode of another tv show, a veterinarian examined a chupacabra victim and said the blood wasn’t drained, it had coagulated internally, only creating the appearance of blood loss. Thoughts? Also, how long before Ricky mixes up a Chupacabra Punch for Too Many Spirits?
involved in a presidential conspiracy, probably "saved" us from the y2k paranoia/hysteria too. Silverio perez, comedian and entrepreneur/businessman (responsible/minted the term/name chupacabras) in colombia his name was different, a slur if you’re from spain. There were 0 records of chupacabras or similar in the past / before, he came out of nowhere idk if the phenomenon that i mentioned in the following parts of my comment was a thing before / if it has any records. (Chupacabras first appearence was in 1995, PR) it came to mexico in 1996 it served as distraction to hide the countries real problems, the real chupacabras is ricardo salinas pliego or Carlos salinas de gortari. Watch Narcos MX the scene of the kids playing with a firearm and the maid scene And get info on the real life story/conspiracy of Colosio. Not only that but it’s an economic thing too. Lets go with fiction now. It could be a coyote with scabies/mange, the tazmanian tiger went extinct in 1936 (so that theory is trash) or a xoloitzcuintli, a hyena(somehow). let’s say chupacabras is real and he was made in a lab or something probably it came from the project Montauk. The whole theory of el chupacabras attacking animals is kinda connected to animal mutilation when the a*us was missing with perfect cuts, no blood, and symmetric cuts / the hair was technically perfect as if it was made with precision, "the chupacabras attacks" consisted in 3 dots < it went from ovni/alien to organic. The phenomenon of the 3 dots was a thing in south america, north america and central america, maybe it’s an unknown animal from here (earth that we don’t know) and ufologist from Ecuador said that aliens to mate/link up/ be here they need to make(or be like the) creatures similars to the ones that we have here. To create humans supposedly they need to subjects from the same species it hasn’t been made / it isn’t possible between aliens and humans bc they are highly developed/evolved reptiles thanks to the human genome we came to the realization that our code is completely different to theirs. Maybe it exists but he is not a cryptid
As a puertorrican (who has always lived on the island and still does but is also a Watcher fan) this episode is hilarious to me for many reasons. Here are some thoughts: - The ‘El Vampiro de Moca’ headline always makes me laugh because El Vocero is known to be a sensationalist (and often flaky) newspaper - Silverio Pérez (the guy who supposedly coined the name) is not only from the same town as me, but the same neighborhood (my grandma and his parents have known each other forever bc they were born, raised and always lived in the same area) - Ryan’s pronunciation of ‘Canovanas’ is hilarious, but he did alright with Moca, Morovis and Orocovis - Very surprised that it wasn’t brought up that the mayor of Canovanas (Chemo Soto) led chupacabra hunts with townspeople during the craze of the 90s (I am SO serious about this, he was really out there with weapons ‘n shit 😭) and in the years after. PLEASE look it up, it’s hilarious - There’s a brunch place in Canovanas called ‘Chupacabras best brunch in Canovanas’ and that just feels like a place Shane and Ryan would visit - Dying at the fact that ‘los monos de Cataño’ made an appearance in this story (Cataño is a town very close to San Juan and I guess the island maybe falls a bit closer to Cataño). As a kid I heard spooky tales about the monkeys making their way to the mainland and still being out there in the woods. Had never thought of them as possible culprits but it’s an interesting thought. As a funny sidenote, a year or two ago there was a whole thing with a monkey in Santurce (a very urban area of San Juan) and how it hilariously evaded the authorities for DAYS (they literally tried to lure it into a cage with bananas, it was very funny and the memes were top notch). The only problem with the monkey theory is the method of those original killings (the puncture wounds). - A kid I knew in elementary school claimed they had heard/seen the chupacabra outside their house. It’s ingrained in the local mythology at this point - I’d say the PR killings were done by a different creature than the other countries as the descriptions started skewing noticeably towards canine once it hit the rest of LATAM and the US and, again, method (puncture wounds vs throats ripped out). - In 2018 there were supposed sightings of a creature dubbed ‘La Gárgola’ (the gargoyle) by the press in the town of Barceloneta and people freaked tf out bc it felt like chupacabra stuff all over again. Several days later, some politicians were caught doing some shady stuff so a lot of people concluded that “yeah no, La Gárgola was definitely a distraction while they did that”. Great memes there as well tho!
I do love all the puerto rican people coming out and sharing their piece on this and just some of hte problems with it from their end. It's really interesting to hear on multiple levels.
The monkeys causing puncture wounds is about as plausable as wolves, if not more. It's macaques on that island and they have very big canines. Very intresting perspective all the same :3
I used to think El Chupacabra would come and kill my family if I thought about him. Before we got another bathroom built, I had to use a shower with swirly shapes on the wall and one of them was in the shape of a creepy alien face and I thought that looking at it would summon El Chupacabra. Turns out I'm susceptible to OCD. Unsolved Supernatural actually helped me overcome that by convincing me that ghosts and demons aren't real. There is no invisible enemy out there looking to hurt you. There is a reasonable explanation for the things that scare you.
I had something very similar! I used to think that if I thought of ghosts while washing my hair, when my eyes were shut it would appear and hurt me. It's one of those things where you sort of know its irrational but you cant help it
Puerto Rican here 🙋🏽♀️ It’s so weird to see you guys talk about this lol. We pretty much hear about the chupacabra our whole lives and i’m still terrified of it. And you’re bound to meet someone who has a story. Just two years ago a woman I know woke up to her rabbits (that she kept outside) with holes on their necks and completely drained of blood. I still don’t even like going outside to my backyard at night and i especially never let my dogs outside when it gets dark. We are traumatized over here lmao 😩 but gracias for covering the story and for specifying that this started in PR! ❤️
Other Puerto Rican here, my sister and I we’re literally just talking about this last night 😭 man I remember bringing friends from other countries over and trying to explain to them why we couldn’t go out on the porch at night 😂
@@milliediaz9919LOLOL This reminded me of a friend I had when I was way younger whose dad would always make up monsters/build off of urban legends to make sure the friend didn't do stuff like go out at night without an adult around or talk to strangers XD I remember the don't talk to strangers one specifically because the dad told me the story too and scared the hell out of me, it went something like: "Be careful around strangers, especially if they're an adult, because they might end up being a monster who will take you away and take away all your body parts one at a time, first they'll take your eyes so you can't see, then they'll take away your mouth so you can't taste anything or talk, etc." I had sort of forgotten about that so thank you for reminding me, it's a cool memory lolol
@@SpaceRemo noooooo cause the chupacabra was a thing when my dad was in college so when my friends from Venezuela came and they’re like what if we went outside I said no and when they asked why I had to look them dead in the eye and say do you want to lose your blood 😂 Also Jesus your dad wasn’t taking any chances 😭
Love how this felt like a parent trying to explain something to their child. As the child ask a million questions the parent slowing going into madness.
I think my favourite thing about El Chupacabra is how significantly different each instance is, and despite that, they're all attributed to the same thing. The killings in the 70s were somewhat mysterious, but had varied injuries and potentially varied causes. The 95 killings seemed to have much more specific causes of death, which I find the most interesting, but also the water was so muddied by one family going "Hey it's that thing from Species!" and then a bunch of other people going "Oh yeah after I heard a detailed description and saw a drawing I also saw something that vaguely matches up with that". All the instances in Mexico and other locations are pretty obviously just normal predation and hoaxers honestly, but those Peurto Rican originals have some real questions still unanswered.
I've been waiting for this since the first season of _Buzzfeed Supernatural._ It's truly one of the most fascinating unsolved cases in the world. Also, Shane likes the taste of blood? IT'S HIM!
Chupacabra was very famous here in Brazil too during the 90’s. I remember going to school early in the morning… around 6:30am, it was usually darker depending on the time of the year. There was this big field I should pass by… I was so freaking scared of an encounter with it.😂
“The DNA wasn’t in the archives!” Yeah, that’s what SHE said, but she’s also walking around calling herself a naturopathic doctor, so she clearly isn’t the most reliable narrator
We had something like this happen on my family’s ranch in Texas-our calves (baby cows) were being killed and drained of blood. Turned out to be a coyote with mange that we called “the chupacabra” because of the similarities. My dad ended up putting it out of its misery and we buried it in the pasture. It looked pretty similar to some of the supposed chupacabras.
@@casspegg9163A lot of these animals were killed via bite to the neck. A wound to an arterie would both kill the animal quickly AND drain the animal of blood thanks to pressure in the arteries (that spray of blood that happens in movies when someone's neck is cut). So the coyote would just have to drink and lick the blood draining out. I'm a hunter so standard procedure that also helps keep the meat good Edit: the blood draining part is standard procedure, not the drinking part lol
So it was draining and lapping up their blood and not even eating the animal? Then when u discovered the animal no other animals saw a free meal and nibbled on it?
@@delirium789may have been because it was sick. Mangey mites aren't very good at using wild dogs as hosts so the animal was likely too fatigued to really tear flesh. It is a lot of work.
I love seeing people learn about the Chupacabra! If you’re of a certain age and from Puerto Rico you know many family members or friends who wholeheartedly believe in its existence or claim to have seen it.
Ryan forgot the most important and likely theory: that the chupacabra is just the monster from the 1995 film Species. This is supported by the investigation done by Benjamin Radford. He determined that Tolentino had seen the movie shortly before her sighting, and when shown a picture from the movie she basically said that it was the creature she saw.
"I have 5 totally real DNA test reports that show the DNA doesn't match with any animal. They're totally real, I have them, and they are absolutely real. They're real, and they are certainly real. Real".
Had a “chupacabra” found in my hometown. Turns out it was just a hairless raccoon. Covers all the bases including sitting up like a kangaroo and being spotting everywhere. ❤ love this new series
I kinda hope Shane and Ryan get to go out to Puerto Rico near the site of the original killings at some point in the future, and walk around/investigate like they did with Bigfoot and Mothman, or maybe interview locals and/or experts and/or potential witnesses like they've done a few times with Unsolved Supernatural. That would be a banger episode to watch.
As a Taino and Puerto Rican, I’d love to hear your take on the chupacabra as a long-standing part of Indigenous folklore known as the Hupia which were also often bat-like humanoids. Keeping in mind that Puerto Rico still doesn’t have any large predators to this day and this was before dogs were introduced, what do you guys think islanders were seeing?
oh my god how did i never even know that! my family is also taino puerto rican but i was born and raised in the continental US, so everytime i was told the stories by my mom and abuela i just always thought that it could be a dog or wolf. *but puerto rico doesn't have native large predators*
If you see someone out of the corner of your eye, in a dark forest or similar, the mind can play tricks. Humans have a natural instinct to fear predators, I guess?
has puerto rico EVER had large predators? like thousands of years ago? depending on how long people have lived on the island and how old the legends are, they could even be stories about, like. megafauna. humans were hunting giant sloths in north america as recently as 11,000 years ago, for example, and i could see how warnings about an animal like that could eventually become folklore.
So my first thought for this was the weird dogs we have, but now that I think of it, I’ve never seen a dog here that matches the description given, even the super sick ones
"This DNA doesn't match any known animal!" (2 matches) Idk why this woman is treating a coyote-wolf hybrid as unknown to science, they definitely aren't. The entire US eastern coyote population is part wolf lmao
She’s just in it for the hype clearly and considering her enjoyment of trophy kills from what i could see in the video i think her case should be fully scrapped from the record.
I love Ryan and Shane’s content, and this is the first time I’ve ever had anything to contribute. My mother claims she and my aunt saw the shadow of the Chupacabra years ago when I was still a baby. My mother and aunt were in my nursery. The electricity had recently gone out, which is a common occurrence in the more rural parts of the island. Behind the window curtains, they see the shadow of something hovering above the ground, long necked, with small, bat-like wings. My aunt, young and rebellious wanted to lift the curtain up to see what it was. My mother refused. Suddenly the lights in the house flickered back on and the creature took off. My mother has never changed her story, and my out continues to say they should’ve lifted the curtain.
I've stumbled upon Ryan&Shane content 6 years ago when I was battling a severe depression and was not capable of doing anything except for laying in my bed. Ryan's voice soothed me and helped me through those difficult times and Shane was always able to crack me up. I'm glad that I've kept up with your work, it feels like we've been growing older together. Please never stop creating!
The original description sounds like a large iguana standing on its back legs. Iguanas have thin arms with long claws, scaly skin, coloured spikes on their back, eyes on the sides of their head, no nose, live in the geographical area and some can grow quite large. It might be what was sighted even if it didn't cause the attacks (i don't think they can suck blood). Could be easy to mistake one as another creature in the dark.
Man i love how much effort everyone in Watcher puts into their projects. I think Watcher is a channel that is a prime example of Network aTV and big Corporations missing the point on why these types of videos have such a strong pull. The creative freedom Steven, Ryan and Shane a lot one another as well as their employees is so refreshing to see and has payed off in the personal yet poised feel.
I'm surprised Ryan didn't bring up the fact that the woman who originally described the creature had recently seen the movie, "Species." Chupacabra is my personal favorite cryptid, and I think the mangy dog theory is the right answer. Mangy dogs have thin grey fur, the skin looks scaly, the spinal ridges on a thin creature would look like spikes, and if you caught a mangy dog standing up on its hind legs, it'd probably look like a fucked up kangaroo. The alien head is probably the only described feature that doesn't match a dog.
Definitely a dog with mange. One time I saw a fox with mange and I swore it was a monster, but it was not. Figured it out was a sick fox with mange after some googling.
dude, Ryan will never fail to make me laugh when he just acts like a lil shit. The "I just thought I was the one giving the presentation." In response to a reasonable question and the "This may disturb you." after fully showing the image 💀
One time, I read a story about a housewife who encountered the chupacabra in her laundry room and insulted it. The chupacabra got really sad and hid its face. I thought that story was from Benjamin Radford’s “Tracking the Chupacabra,” which I read and wrote several essays on in community college, but upon flipping through the book, I couldn’t find any mention. I want to find the story again very badly because it was hilarious. Imagine finding the chupacabra in your house and calling it a “pendejo.”
So, I'm not sure, but when I was a kid, circa 15 years ago, there was a documentary about the Chupacabra on I think Discovery Channel, and I faintly recall this story as well, so maybe you saw it too, and that is where you remember it from.
DEBRIEF ITEM: No one has mentioned that there could be multiple animals involved. Perhaps the mangey dogs (it would have to be a pack to do that much damage to that many animals in one night) or rogue monkeys did the initial attacks, accounting for the puncture wounds. But the subsequent draining of the blood could have been some other animal(s), particularly insects or other scavengers who would go for oozing, draining wounds. What say you?
Monkeys is the first Chupacabra theory that ever made sense to me. Baboons have those really long teeth (long straw-like bite), some are tail-less, and they can definitely stand on their hind legs. AND, they actually have the lips to apply suction to a wound. Complete draining of blood seems unlikely, but so does a weird little alien thing. And maybe the monkeys had mange. They wouldn't be going after animals like that unless sick, after all.
Awww i m so happy you are back! You have no idea how much i ve and all of us missed you❤️ Loved every single episode at the beginning and then i was obsessed ove the fact that even tho that every story was disturbing the way you presented was so calming.When i found you again yesterday i was so shocked.My bf was looking at me like i was going nuts😂😂 you r so good at what your doing,never stop🙏🏻
I'm from the Philippines and the first thing that came to mind was a bayawak/monitor lizard. My mom as a child saw one "standing" in the dark and just about shit herself, but she realized it was just a monitor lizard leaning upright on a chicken wire fence... Because it ate chickens and was drooling over its next meal on the other side of said fence. I checked and monitor lizards aren't found in the areas where the chupacabra was reported to be found, but I think the idea that the chupacabra might be a similar giant lizard is interesting. 👀
I think its more logical that an animal (like your lizard) somehow got transported to a different territory than that a supernatural creature exists. People do trade in exotic animals and then handle those animals irresponsibly.
i wonder if it could have been an iguana, i know mexico (yucatan) has a lot of iguanas like how america has squirrels but i think a local creature like that would have been recognized immediately
Hopefully For Debrief: Hey! I'm a Puerto Rican who has heard about all these stories throughout my childhood, and I feel that I could bring some more context to this. There are many legends that surround the Chupacabra and one of them was that they might’ve been alien like creatures. It’s always been rumored that the rainforest “El Yunque” is a hub for extraterrestrials because there have supposedly been many UFO sightings in the area. People could’ve just been watching a lot of alien movies at the time and developed the characteristics from there. There was even a point in time in which a mayor when on a hunt into the woods with a few men in order to search for the Chupacabra and they were all endlessly made fun of by the public. It’s still something people bring up and laugh about to this day. Though cayotes aren't a thing in Puerto Rico, monkeys are a lot more common here than people think. Just a few years ago the authorities became a laughingstock to the people because they tried to catch a monkey and it took them days to be able to catch it because of the inexperience that the island has in dealing with them. Usually, we just let them do their own thing and they are almost exclusively seen in rural areas which is why it would make sense that farmers had the most sightings of the “Chupacabras”. It’s actually really funny because in Puerto Rico, the modern-day perception of what in looks like is mostly the doglike creature described in other Latin American countries. It basically feels like a game of telephone that circulated right back with an entirely different description than the original. Now a days its mostly older folks who might still believe in it, but it’s now used as a myth to tell children, so they’ll behave and not go out at night at the risk of the “Chupacabra” getting them. I guess the question is: Given a bit more context from the place where the myth seemed to have originated from, does it still seem likely to you that it exists, or does it seem like a rumor that people ended up just going along with because they couldn’t find an explanation? (Ryan don’t worry about the blood sucking aspect, you can just chalk that all up to the vampires.)😊
I went to Bayamon in the mid 90's and I was scared as shit because of all the stories plus Primer Impacto made ratings with them stories of El Chupacabra. Que tiempos aquellos 😂
Any local belief that it could have been a person with murderer on the brain who didn’t go after people? Or maybe even did but no one connected the dots…
There was also a lot of shows during that time that was centered in alien sightings and finds, plus primer impact and sabado gigando making they’re respective segments about Chupi really helped popularize the idea of a blood sucking alien like being.
Fellow Puerto Rican raised the island over here! I second this post. There's also theories that it could've been sightings of a type of mongoose that reside in the rural areas. As someone who has lived in Orocovis their whole lives, there's some crazy local theories and reports that still run around to this day and many people in from the rural area still totally believe it exists.
Compare the original reports to that of the HAV-HANNUAE-KONDRAS, an extraterrestrial species that the KGB wrote were the vampires of Romania, in a manual that has been translated to English.
Question for debrief: A common trend in cryptozoological research is that it leads to new ecological discoveries, but once things are discovered they’re no longer considered cryptids and the cryptozoology that led there is still considered nonsense (like the research into yetis in the Himalayas that found a new species of bear.) If the chupacabra is a new canine species, is it still a cryptid? Or would that prove it isn’t a cryptid?
I would say that if its the only one, or if it has supernatural traits or abilities, its a cryptid. If there are others of it, and its a species that reproduces, it is simply a newly discovered animal
I think I need to binge watch this channel... Shane and Ryan are great at making me laugh or at least crack a smile... Definitely needed in the darkest time of my life -sigh- RIP mom ❤️
Thank you for clearing up that the chupacabra was originally from Puerto Rico. I always get slightly upset when someone says it originated in Mexico. I love my native cryptid
It was interesting for me because I’ve always heard it translated at “Peruvian Goat Sucker” so at least I didn’t think Mexico. But I was still wrong so I’m happy to know the correct origins now
Right. Was very happy to hear that. Like i haven’t been scared as fuck of the chupacabra my whole life here in PR for people to say it’s from mexico 😭😭 lmao
For debrief: the reports said the ‘blood was drained’. Was there any blood on the scene or was is all removed (or consumed?) was any other tissue missing? Had the blood simply drained out naturally due to the wounds? Starving dogs (even vampiric dogs) would likely eat the meat, not just the blood.
@@VoxAsteri My mom definitely believes the attacks were caused by men from the start, given that they were very suspicious and they haven't really occurred again since then. I don't know if the first ones were staged by people, but the later ones, after the myth spread were highly likely just people trying to copy the original ones to spook others or draw some attention. I also personally think most of the sightings were just dogs with mange combined with people's hyperactive imagination
@@VoxAsteri Also brazilian here! A story my grandpa used to tell me: early 00s and he went working in the fields @ Santa Teresa/ES, the farm he stayed at had something killing the animals and lurking around the property. One day he and his work buddies allegedly saw a chupacabra and said he straight up killed it with a slingshot lmao. He said the thing was bigger than any dog he had ever seen w/ barely any fur. I was like 7 when he told the story to me, could've been a scary story/a lie but he did keep his slingshot next to his bible (he was very religious) so idk I believe him lol
Fun fact coywolves (wolf coyote hybrids) are actually fairly common and are one of the problems threatening wolf populations. When wolves breed with coyotes it reduces the amount of purebred wolves that could be born- which is a problem because of the endangered status of wolves
Question for debrief: What are some theories about why the animals had no blood in them or at least appeared to have no blood in them? Edit: Apparently when people were sent to inspect the corpses of the goats that were killed, they found that the blood of many of the goats had simply been coagulated in the interior of the goats. In simple terms that just means it clogged inside the goats body which is normal for animals after they die. This or the animals had simply lost a lot of blood due to the attacks on them and only appeared bloodless is the main reason the animals appeared to have no blood.
If the damage was to the artery in the neck, a lot of blood would just come out very quickly. Really not that strange. Predators go for the neck for a reason.
Shane trying to picture all the dead animals but Ryan had the opportunity to say "Well imagine 90 jars of peanut butter..."
Definitely need jelly😅
BAHAHAHA YEAH
Its the only valid scale
I thought that exactly 😭
Missed opportunity there XD
I’m absolutely shocked that Ryan didn’t put an aliens theory on the board. That sketch looks like an alien with spikes
as soon as ryan said about the precision of the straw like sucks into the brain i’m like my dudes that is an ALIEN
as soon as he mentioned nasa i was SURE that was there he was going with it but alas
Came here to say this! Aliens just make the most sense out of the imagery, strange phenomena, the puncture wound from the neck to the brain??? As well as the patterns of happening every so many years and to the same animals, and the smell of sulfur described? Honestly I could see a theory in which sulfur smell is a by-product of dimensional travel or something.
Right?!? They look exactly like the "gray men" described at Roswell and so many other places… I mean, that face! It was just an alien with some spikes!
Punk alien.
I will never forget an American exchange student doing a report on Capybara's in our high school English class (public speaking on a topic of your choice) and our teacher interrupting to yell at him for not bothering to research the topic. She went on a rant about how Capybara's were vicious creatures that attacked livestock and killed babies. It wasn't until she said that their name meant "Goat Sucker" that the American student asked if she meant Chupacabra.
Edit: Answers to main questions.
I'm in Australia. The teacher didn't back down, so they got roasted for the next 3 years by not just us, but other classes who heard about it as well.
The student was a really shy and quiet kid, I honestly don't remember anything about him before that day. He ended up being one of the popular kids by the time he headed back to the US
OMFGGGG 😂😂😂😂😂 This took me tf out, thank you for sharing!
Teacher: Capybaras are vicious killing machines known for their brutal attacks against babies and livestock!
Capybaras: *Giant, vegetarian water guinea pigs, literally known for being one of the chillest animals in the world who can vibe with like any other species.* Look lady, I'm just here to pull up at the after party!
literally a conversaion with my fiancee. We were talking about a line of artistic brooches for South American animals. "I hope they do a chupacabras!"
well, they're not really South American, per se, originating in Puerto Rico in the mid 90s...
... the big cuddly rodent one?
OH. CAPYBARA.
Did the student pull up at the after party
You can’t just leave it at that, what happened next?
All the places are Spanish speaking areas. IDK. 🤷♀️
21:47 Ryan having Shane simulate the experience of being tired and seeing a a blood sucking creature in the night by making him do maybe three jumping jacks, and making him look at a dog in the dark then Shane immediately being correct has me in tears on the floor
Life seems better since Shane and Ryan are telling stories again
100% agree
Agreed!
No doubt
Heck yeah!🎉
They were great together and make excellent content
I like how the Mexican chupacabra is a dog, and the Puertorican chupacabra is a weird ass gremlin creature
Lol Puertorican here, had to do a project on this a long time ago. There are also interpretations where they describe it like a little green alien vampire.
Puerto Rican #2 here. Our chupacabra is everything but consistent. Sometimes grey, sometimes green. Spines, no spines. Big red eyes, black eyes. Wings, no wings.
Our little dude is a damn shapeshifter and we love him for it.
Puerto Rican #3.
I miss the days of cryptid doodles and graffiti everywhere. Even though I was around 6y/o when I first heard of it and was genuinely scared of vampires... the Chupacabra just seemed cute.
Puertorrican 3: I love how for a whole month we had people hunting for La Gárgola, which honestly is just a knock off chupacabras LMAO. PUERTO RICO ON TOP
Arguably dogs are gremlin creatures.
Huge shoutout to whoever on production it was that scans Shane and Ryans notebooks after these episodes because seeing their cute little notes as they write them is a lot of fun in these episodes
the notebook notes element is amazing and different, I could see it being used more with little drawings and challenges and becoming a trademark Mystery Files thing
"A boat!?"
"That's a f*** kangaroo."
istg these two are the best duo ever.
someone’s GOTTA fire the “veterinary specialist” who couldn’t recognize a dog with mange and went straight to “genetically engineered creature.” absolutely crazy I love it
Also the herpetologist with a doctorate who determined the Puerto Rican boa “doesn’t suck blood”, “can’t kill large animals” and is “non-poisonous”. Any reptile keeper on the planet could tell you those things without even looking at the snake. And we’ll assume that last one was a slip on the script-writer’s part, since no respectable herpetologist would ever call a venomous reptile “poisonous”. You bite it, you die - poisonous. It bites you, you die - venomous.
@@EmilyGrace20 I thought that Exact same thing at “poisonous” omfg!! Ur right, probably just a script/presentation thing but it’s so funny to imagine that all of the absolute WORST animal professionals came together to study Chupacabra evidence. just some truly dogshit scientists
Isn't mange also generally well known and recognizable for veterinarians because of just how many mammals can get it and how common it is? Like most people know what a mangy mutt is.
crazy? i was crazy once. they locked me in a rubber room, a rubber room with rats. the rats make me crazy.
@@dragonsember you would be. surprised. to figure out just how many people can't recognize a coyote, let alone a coyote with mange. there's a reason why cryptids exist; people are just really fucking stupid sometimes.
Uh, that "specimen" that the lady has looks oddly familiar to a xoloitzcuintli. A wild dog from Mexico. Wrinkled skin, no fur, long face and legs. Literally fits the characteristics. This lady has to be capping
that’s exactly what I thought, someone’s poor pet must’ve ran off
Exactly! I don't believe in those labs one bit, since it looks exactly like a xolo! And could also just be a dog with mange, again. However, the original happenings with drained blood and holes in throats and whatnot, don't seem like a dog's doings. The later ones absolutely do though
I was gonna say!!!! I have a pet Xolo and she absolutely looks like the "specimen".
Or just a dog w severe mange. I've seen strays that look like that in my country
that taxidermy looks exactly like one it’s honestly saddening
I love that even when Shane is respectful and agrees with Ryan, Ryan gets defensive and thinks he is mocking him😂
In his defense, Shane has a long ass history of doing that exact thing XD
You’re both right, and he proved it as he then in the same episode like 5 minutes later was super dismissive towards the Puerto Rican farmers and how Ryan called it a mystery. 😂
I think it became an instinct by now
Shane is the guy where you can never get a read on the dude
Ryan has been swindled too many times
forever delighted by how excited Shane briefly gets at the idea of monkeys driving a boat
question for debrief: As an Australian the description seems to be eerily similar to the Thylacine (Tasmanian Tiger) that is now extinct. They are marsupials (just like kangaroos), were able to open their jaw an unusual amount (up to 80 degrees), with a thick stiff tail and pouch, they look doglike with stripes down their back that could be confused for "feathers" in the dark. And according to Robert Paddle, originating from a second-hand account, the thylacine was characterised as a blood drinker throughout the 20th century. The were also historically shy and hid away from humans. Just something to think about.
Always here for an Australian connection theory
omg this is my favorite theory yet!
Fascinating!
"Thylacines aren't extinct, they just moved to the Americas and rebranded as Chupacabras" is an amazing crack theory, I love it!
I was getting Thylacine vibes as well. Would be interesting.
just googled it. why is the rat dog so scary lookin omg. WHY can it open its mouth 90°??? that's terrifying.
Also watching them open their mouths like that gives me the same creeps I get if I see an owl spin its head around 😮
question for debrief : why were me and my friends terrified of chupacabras growing up? we lived in alaska. chupacrabras don’t show up there
that’s what the chupacabras want you to think
I think only you can answer that question haha
Lolllll
I lived in Glendale CA as a child and I thought they were gonna come get my ass. You are not alone.
Not yet.
New theory: Shane is the Chupacabra
you didn’t even watch the video you silly billy
Chupacabra*
@@LindaC616Chupacabra in english means Goatman! (source: trust me)
Actually bigfoot
He's too tall
If you take into account that witness testimonies tend to exaggerate because of fear, pretty much all of the initially described physical attributes align with a starving canid with mange.
Nobody who has the capacity for critical thought believes in cryptozoology. You're screaming into the void.
True but that doesn't explain how/why the animals were drained of blood.
@adambump5297 I've seen that argument debunked before though about cattle mutilation cases and no blood left.
@@sambranton3346Yeah but the cattle and other animals weren't mutilated though the only wounds found on them were the two puncture wounds like what a vampire would leave so that explanation isn't debunking shit for me.
@@adambump5297 there's no actual evidence of that happening. No photos, no cadavers, no police reports. It's an old hoax.
For Debrief: Do you guys think that the chupacabra sightings in US and Mexico was perhaps just a stray Xoloitzcuintle (Mexican hairless dog)?
Xolos are known for being completely hairless, however some are born with fur on their heads, feet, ears, and sometimes tail. This might explain the “feathers” people claim to see it had?
The photos Dr. Phylis Canion took, and the taxidermy she had done looks just like a Xoloitzcuintle. It’s hard to believe it’s not just a Xolo with mange, rabies, or some kind of genetic defect.
Yeah some kind of really messed up dog or canine of some sort, a dog/coyote mix, maybe one with some crazy genetic defects.
This is my thoughts too, it looks like a Xolo dog. Send the DNA to a dog breed testing lab.
I was thinking that! Also they have very prominent spines and are kinda just weird little guys
That’s exactly what it is
It’s 100% a Xolo. They are weird looking and little assholes (I say that as someone who lives with one)
I think like most cryptids, the original sightings are the most compelling. SOMETHING was killing those animals in the 70s, but once the myth of the chupacabra became popular, people started using it as an explanation for other much less strange occurrences.
it's out there, but i'm going with misidentified gray alien who was collecting livestock samples.
In my expert opinion, it's what I would call "A load of ol' cobblers". Others might call it "bollocks" but I'm sticking with cobblers.
They're just dogs, my man. Some of the animals were probably shot by the farmer and that's what the holes were. There's never been a proper autopsy showing blood draining that I've seen. And these "investigators" are always so coy. We never get to see the DNA report for ourselves. I wonder why?
@@aarondavis8943 i personally think it might be a sort of undiscovered 1m weasels. I'm guessing the holes were puncture marks from their teeth and the drained blood was just because the weasels went for places that they instinctively knew had a lot of important blood vessels and the animals bled to death. Weasels are notorious for killing and not eating their prey so that's what i figure
@@SpydrXIII so this is the best way a super intelligent space travelling alien can take blood samples?
If an alien race can master deep space travel, their technology would be so far beyond that, I doubt they'd even have to enter our atmosphere to take any kind of reading they need.
@@aarondavis8943 In your expert opinion? What makes you an expert on any of this? Even if there was an autopsy that proved their blood was drained, you'd refuse to believe it because you don't like your idea of reality to be shaken and want to stay in your bubble.
Whoever designed the M in mystery files to be three question marks is an icon
Same people who designed the Monster Energy logo :o
i love how they avoid the word unsolved like the plague, its so funny
“STOP ASKING SO MUCH QUESTIONS!” Ryan is me seeing extended family at thanksgiving
this comment is severely underrated
Real
THATTTTT
*Old friends you didn't want to see that day*
Me to everyone, every day lol
When Ryan made Shane look at something quickly in the dark... I was hoping it was going to be Carter. I was hoping Carter would be our cryptid for the season.
Always good to see Carter!
We love Carter
same here hehehe
I interned at a zoo in Missouri. Our information line got a call from a woman who was convinced there was a Chupacabra in her yard. Our keeper explained that those don't exist and to send a photo of the animal in her yard so we could identify it for animal control. She emailed us a photo from the internet when you google "chupacabra". We were like "No a photo that YOU took of the thing in your yard" and long story short, it was a dog with mange.
That interaction is so typical of how cryptid believer's critical thinking functions.
there's a few famous Aussie ones listed in the Fortean Times.
"I found a thylacine! And I caught it! It has stripes!" - it was a brindle greyhound
"I found a thylacine! It has stripes and everyting!" - it was a large quoll (so about the size of a housecat, not a dog).. which has spots..
"I found this weird mouse in the pool! It has webbed feet and hands!" - it was a bat
Oh man, I was so scared of being outside when as a child, I was visiting family in puerto rico around that time when the Chupacabra hysteria was at its highest, especially at night. Nearly had an anxiety attack every night when I have to sleep because my room was facing the forest and expected red eyes to appear and watch me as I tried to sleep.
i’m absolutely living for Shane’s excitement when Ryan revealed the monkeys theory
that was some pure unbridled joy
As a native Puerto Rican who lived through the mass hysteria of the 1995 sightings (and is now writing a whole book about it), I am SO happy I didn't have to make yet more enemies of folks completely misconstruing the legend of the chupacabra. I'm legitimately impressed by the depth of research that went into this! El chupi is OUR legend, muchas gracias.
I really hope I can take that out at the library someday
Yes!!! I was a child during this time and remember that it was happening in Puerto Rico, but as an adult, so many Americans believe it was a Mexican story
It made its way to Chile somehow, i lived in the desert in the 2000s and the story for us was that nasa sent the chupacabras here (why would they do that???)
Miners would swear up and down they saw the chupacabra. As a kid whenever we were driving at night i would be looking for him through the window lmaoo
My Dad was PR and he was always saying, "get in bed or the Chupacabra will get you" 😂
Would very much love to read your book someday! The Chupacabra was one of the original cryptids, that I learned about as a very young child, which sparked a lifelong fascination for cryptozoology. Love you, you freaky lil goat sucker
Shane’s excitement for monkeys and the idea of them driving a boat is adorable 😂
Beep bop... I'm the Philosophy Bot. Here, have a quote:
"In every real man a child is hidden that wants to play"
~ Nietzsche
You two have the perfect chemistry. Anyone else telling these stories or anything else you guys do would be lackluster. I think everyone who watches is secretly hoping Shane sees a ghost just see him react. I never get tired of watching you two.
i studied vet tech in PR and was born and raised there, and my professor once told me it was all a conspiracy bc the farmers had some sort of rivalry with one another and they did that for sale and profit. the only reason they created the chupacabra was bc they needed to blame Something so they don't get in trouble with the law, so, coming from a puertorican, maybe shane IS onto something LMAO
Yeah I felt that the bite marks were too long for any teeth (they could literally be long tubes inserted and helped with draining the blood ) unless your talking about saber toothed Tiger.
Yoooo now THAT makes sense!
I absolutely believe this. Sounds far too much like humans fucking around, especially how it just conveniently stopped after a short while. Also so convenient that only one family ever 'saw' it and convenienty saw it twice, and even wrestled with it, lmao, and only after that did other people suddenly claim seeing it. Also fucking hilarious to me that a dog with mange repeatedly getting blamed for it. That ranch owners obsessesion with her dog corpses is wild to me. Like lady, I worked at a dog shelter for a long ass time, that is literally just a dog with a skin condition.
I thought this was legit the entire explanation is this not the generally accepted explanation? 😂
@@libraopal22 not you commenting my whole conspiracy 😭😭 I made a comment about that under the actual video
Ryan has "middle schooler practicing their school presentation in front of their parents" vibes and Shane has "The Professor ™" vibes and well just go ahead and call me a Grunkle cuz I stan
I will now be using that last sentence, thank you for your contribution
Omg that’s amazing 😂😂😂
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I said it once and I’ll say it again! I like how they’ve kept it on brand over the years. In ghost hunting Ryan is the more batshit type due to him believing in ghosts while Shane is the scientific type because he doesn’t believe in them.
In crime it’s the opposite, Ryan is the scientific type because he’s presenting while Shane is the batshit type because he’s listening and doesn’t have a clue about the crime being committed.
It’s honestly weird to boil it down to that. I’m sure Ryan and Shane don’t boil it down like that for show concepts but it’s cool seeing them be themselves while being on brand ever since they started hosting together.
Either one of them could be insane or scientific and it’s always a sight to behold no matter which one it is. These two boys are peak entertainment. Sorry for the ramble, hope you enjoyed the read!
They both show their personalities immensely throughout each show they host.
The last sentence!!! It's mine now
i desperately need a show where ryan and shane go out on location and search for cryptids specifically. i need a reboot of destination truth so bad
My friend has been obsessed with them recently she wants to go hunt them😭
Yeeeesss !!!!!!!
@@nexithedestroyerI’ll bring the shotgun!
@@wolfgalaxy9086 goatman is absolutely one of my favourite episodes
Shane is rlly something else-
With their patented Mothman and Sasquatch calls, these are definitely the boys for the job.
As a Puertorican that has been watching y’all since you started I am beyond happy that you covered the Chupacabras
I think it's important to note that first "witness" Madelyne had described the Chupacabra as looking like Sil from the movie Species, which at the time she believed to be real and prowling around Puerto Rico.They also never did any necropsy to confirm drained blood on any of the animals. It's mangey dogs.
Thank you! The blood draining thing was the only thing I was left wondering about.
Beat me to the punch. Omitting the taphonomy and Tolentino’s confusion about ‘Species vs reality’ really makes the case seem way more mysterious than not.
And furthermore, just because some DNA doesn’t match the database doesn’t mean we’ve discovered something new or paranormal. It just means the sample wasn’t good enough - too old, degraded, etc.
It reminds me of how cattle and livestock “mutilation” cases also are said to have corpses drained of blood, but that is usually because the animal has been dead for a while and so its blood pools and gets broken down or eaten by insect scavengers etc. It usually comes down to people attributing natural phenomena to the supernatural.
@@tinyrocks7549 vampire bats!! they often kill livestock
@@ivo8312 yeas, they kill livestock bc of rabies, which is a frightening way to die
i like that they are both wearing the same type of hat, but ryan has his ears subtly tucked in under the hat, while shane has his hat tucked boldly under his ears. truly a dynamic duo we have here.
Oh and the denim jackets👍
It's crazy to me that Ryan didn't mention the demon theory when he mentioned a sulfur smell
His hair is already standing up from this comment 😂
I immediately thought the same thing! Probably because I've been watching too much Supernatural lately. lol
For debrief:
Just considering the initial murders that happened in Puerto Rico around 1975, could it be a cult or some kind of devil worshippers performing a ritual, or preparing for some ritual (like an animal sacrifice)? Since they largely targeted goats, which is often how the devil is depicted and they sucked out blood in a very specific way.
I second this theory!
that's what I'm wondering. I want to know if there is any animal or pack of animals (what it looks like aside) that are native to puerto rico that could kill so many animals but not eat them? It's sounds so unusual that it seems to me like it had to be humans.
There have been other strange cases of livestock killings and blood drainings around the world "explained" in this way. There was a case more recently in France of horses found mutilated, without eyes, ears, AND blood. I think "cultists" was one of the first theories, even though it could not be explained exactly how or why exactly they carried it out.
@Raspberry1616 in a clip a man was talking about how a rich person hired a witch to do some "work' it was a dead animal i think goat i don't remember stuffed with money left out on the middle of the road , he said that for every bill taken will be traded for your own life
@marissaffs9824 lol nope
Pets (or former pets, like feral dogs) are the biggest animals on Puerto Rico. Everything else that's wild/native are iguanas, geckos, parrots, changos (crows' scrawny squeaky cousins), frogs... Nothing big and/or bloodthirsty.
Shane’s dog lie got me.
“Dogs without tails can’t stand in two legs…. That’s not true.”
I think he even said they can't stand on four legs 😭
shanes rambling and commenting being applied as stickers is genius and i love it
Can I just point out that even if those bats *were* blood-sucking vampire bats, the idea of them killing livestock is freaking ridiculous
The worst they do is suck a cup full of blood
That and they also lap the blood up like dogs.
@@Areyousayingidontknowmyname They also primarily go for ankles, not necks.
FR, they are like the size of your hand and only weigh a few ounces. 😂
Yeah, they basically drink a few drops. You could take 100 bats worth of blood and they probably wouldn’t even notice.
sometimes dead animal carcasses can have all their blood pool in specific areas because of gravity. It can make it seem like they’ve been drained
Shane: "Where'd the wings come from?"
Ryan: "God" absolutely KILLED me 😂😂😂💀
I find it very hard to believe that a vet in 2000 would not recognize a dog with mange. So either the body was in fact swapped, or the “vet” was the local drunk.
They mage the foolish mistake of trusting the body to the authorities
@@noctotainlowry9246i have seen a dog with mange maybe 3 times in my life and still i can identify it by just seeing it lmao people who get through med school at least have common sense
@@noctotainlowry9246 I don't know how it is in the US but in the UK it is just as hard (if not harder) to become a vet as it is a doctor. You need at least four years of higher education, practical experience in multiple disciplines (horses, livestock, pets, and small animals-the latter two are sometimes put into the same category but it depends on the university) as well as a broader understanding of biology than require for the medical field. I find it very unlikely that even a dropout-let alone a qualified vet-couldn't recognise a dog with mange, given it's both a very common animal and a very common disease. Heck, even ignoring the vet, most experienced farmers should be able to recognise mange, even if they can't always treat it. (Also the idea that being a vet is somehow easier than working in a hospital is laughable. Doctors have the luxury of specialised equipment made specifically for humans, while vets often have to improvise. Plus, outside of pediatrics, most doctors don't have to worry about being scratched or bitten by patients.
For debrief:
Looking at Shane's drawing and reading the description I'd guess that what the girl and her mum saw was probably a porcupine - they can be about 3ft tall, are pretty stinky, can walk on their hind legs and would probably look pretty freaky in the middle of the night. It definitely wasn't a porcupine sucking on those goats though, they're herbivores!
Idk Porcupines really aren’t all that common, if they even exist at all in PR. I’ve never seen one living there. I think it was an Iguana de Palo- what they saw- before they became an invasive species. They sometimes run on two legs and kinda have spikes on their back
Not 100% convinced, but it's true that while they do have tails only some of them are prehensile and several breeds have short, stocky tails what aren't very visible at a distance
As a puertorican born and raised
from what i can find, no species of porcupine is endemic to puerto rico. perhaps it was a vampire porcupine; that would explain both the blood-sucking and the supernatural strength it used to swim across the ocean
There’s NO porcupine in PR
I just had an epiphany which now seems like something I should have realized long ago. I don't care what they're talking about, it's the fun and friendship between Shane and Ryan that keeps me coming back.
For Debrief: Hey guys! You didn't talk much about the holes in the animal's necks that led to their brains. That's what really freaked us out. Are there any theories to explain that?? Also, congrats to both of you! I'm super happy and proud to see all of your success and growth!
I’ve seen it in South America irl on a duck before, it looked completely flat and the wounds were surgical. That duck looked like the life was drained out of it and us not knowing what could’ve done something like that was chilling to say the least
That's what really struck me. It sounds like almost all of the first killings in Puerto Rico were done by draining the blood from the neck and i don't know any canines (or monkeys) that kill that way.
I’ve been wondering if it could be explained by some kind of parasite? Like it comes from the inside out…not the outside in 🤔 just a thought!
It's from when the farmers shot the animal.
yeha the theories seem to be too focused on matching or roughly matching the physical description, not, yknow, HOW THE FUCK THE THING IS KILLING ANIMALS. YOU KNW. THE WHO REASON PEOPLE THINK ITS A MONSTERS AND NOT A FUCKING WILD ANIMAL.
The wild dog with mange theory seems strong to me. It explains the strange skin and when a dog is malnourished you can see its spine much easier (which could have been mistaken for spikes) Plus, in addition to mange it could have been suffering from rabies causing unusual behavior like standing on its hind legs or attacking livestock. Not to mention it could have just been born with no ears (genetic defect) or lost them in a fight.
Or because of alertness they flip their ears and looks like no ears
Mange and Rabies sounds solid to me.... But why did they become vampires? Because last time I checked dogs and canines love just thrashing the sh*t out of everything they bite. That and they have a tendency to pick apart and eat the things they kill. Even counting rabies, those corpses should've been ripped up a bit more then they were. I also don't recall wild dogs sucking the blood out of things dry unless there's a fact about bleeding I don't know about. Everything about the rabid dogs with mange makes sense except for the blood sucking and fang marks.
But that doesn't explain the drained blood or the first alien like appearance that people described I don't care what anyone says mange and rabies doesn’t explain that.
@@GenericProtagonist118 Being sick, specially if sick in multiple ways. they may not have had the strength to do such. but dogs natural hunting instincts are to go for some important arteries in the neck of a beast as well (going after limbs if they have to, to bring it down but that isn't always preferred for them and in packs they will actually harry an animal to death over attacking it physically), which artery punctures can empty a body of blood pretty quickly. that arterial spray when somebody gets their throat cut in movies isn't entirely fake, and it doesn't only happen to humans.
But the long puncture wounds, especially going to the brain, are odd.
Personally, I think the later accounts- maybe even starting with the sighting that the mother and daughter had- and the earlier killings were possibly unrelated to each other.
Debrief question: On an episode of another tv show, a veterinarian examined a chupacabra victim and said the blood wasn’t drained, it had coagulated internally, only creating the appearance of blood loss. Thoughts? Also, how long before Ricky mixes up a Chupacabra Punch for Too Many Spirits?
Everytime there's a report of animal mutilation and blood draining, it's just a farmer not understanding lividity.
Expedition Unknown right?
@@emcn8939 yup that’s the one
involved in a presidential conspiracy, probably "saved" us from the y2k paranoia/hysteria too. Silverio perez, comedian and entrepreneur/businessman (responsible/minted the term/name chupacabras) in colombia his name was different, a slur if you’re from spain. There were 0 records of chupacabras or similar in the past / before, he came out of nowhere idk if the phenomenon that i mentioned in the following parts of my comment was a thing before / if it has any records.
(Chupacabras first appearence was in 1995, PR) it came to mexico in 1996 it served as distraction to hide the countries real problems, the real chupacabras is ricardo salinas pliego or Carlos salinas de gortari. Watch Narcos MX the scene of the kids playing with a firearm and the maid scene And get info on the real life story/conspiracy of Colosio. Not only that but it’s an economic thing too.
Lets go with fiction now.
It could be a coyote with scabies/mange, the tazmanian tiger went extinct in 1936 (so that theory is trash) or a xoloitzcuintli, a hyena(somehow). let’s say chupacabras is real and he was made in a lab or something probably it came from the project Montauk.
The whole theory of el chupacabras attacking animals is kinda connected to animal mutilation when the a*us was missing with perfect cuts, no blood, and symmetric cuts / the hair was technically perfect as if it was made with precision, "the chupacabras attacks" consisted in 3 dots < it went from ovni/alien to organic. The phenomenon of the 3 dots was a thing in south america, north america and central america, maybe it’s an unknown animal from here (earth that we don’t know) and ufologist from Ecuador said that aliens to mate/link up/ be here they need to make(or be like the) creatures similars to the ones that we have here. To create humans supposedly they need to subjects from the same species it hasn’t been made / it isn’t possible between aliens and humans bc they are highly developed/evolved reptiles thanks to the human genome we came to the realization that our code is completely different to theirs.
Maybe it exists but he is not a cryptid
As a puertorrican (who has always lived on the island and still does but is also a Watcher fan) this episode is hilarious to me for many reasons. Here are some thoughts:
- The ‘El Vampiro de Moca’ headline always makes me laugh because El Vocero is known to be a sensationalist (and often flaky) newspaper
- Silverio Pérez (the guy who supposedly coined the name) is not only from the same town as me, but the same neighborhood (my grandma and his parents have known each other forever bc they were born, raised and always lived in the same area)
- Ryan’s pronunciation of ‘Canovanas’ is hilarious, but he did alright with Moca, Morovis and Orocovis
- Very surprised that it wasn’t brought up that the mayor of Canovanas (Chemo Soto) led chupacabra hunts with townspeople during the craze of the 90s (I am SO serious about this, he was really out there with weapons ‘n shit 😭) and in the years after. PLEASE look it up, it’s hilarious
- There’s a brunch place in Canovanas called ‘Chupacabras best brunch in Canovanas’ and that just feels like a place Shane and Ryan would visit
- Dying at the fact that ‘los monos de Cataño’ made an appearance in this story (Cataño is a town very close to San Juan and I guess the island maybe falls a bit closer to Cataño). As a kid I heard spooky tales about the monkeys making their way to the mainland and still being out there in the woods. Had never thought of them as possible culprits but it’s an interesting thought. As a funny sidenote, a year or two ago there was a whole thing with a monkey in Santurce (a very urban area of San Juan) and how it hilariously evaded the authorities for DAYS (they literally tried to lure it into a cage with bananas, it was very funny and the memes were top notch). The only problem with the monkey theory is the method of those original killings (the puncture wounds).
- A kid I knew in elementary school claimed they had heard/seen the chupacabra outside their house. It’s ingrained in the local mythology at this point
- I’d say the PR killings were done by a different creature than the other countries as the descriptions started skewing noticeably towards canine once it hit the rest of LATAM and the US and, again, method (puncture wounds vs throats ripped out).
- In 2018 there were supposed sightings of a creature dubbed ‘La Gárgola’ (the gargoyle) by the press in the town of Barceloneta and people freaked tf out bc it felt like chupacabra stuff all over again. Several days later, some politicians were caught doing some shady stuff so a lot of people concluded that “yeah no, La Gárgola was definitely a distraction while they did that”. Great memes there as well tho!
this is really cool info, thanks for sharing!
I do love all the puerto rican people coming out and sharing their piece on this and just some of hte problems with it from their end. It's really interesting to hear on multiple levels.
The monkeys causing puncture wounds is about as plausable as wolves, if not more. It's macaques on that island and they have very big canines. Very intresting perspective all the same :3
So La Gárgola was basically just a scooby doo villain
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I used to think El Chupacabra would come and kill my family if I thought about him. Before we got another bathroom built, I had to use a shower with swirly shapes on the wall and one of them was in the shape of a creepy alien face and I thought that looking at it would summon El Chupacabra.
Turns out I'm susceptible to OCD. Unsolved Supernatural actually helped me overcome that by convincing me that ghosts and demons aren't real. There is no invisible enemy out there looking to hurt you. There is a reasonable explanation for the things that scare you.
I had something very similar! I used to think that if I thought of ghosts while washing my hair, when my eyes were shut it would appear and hurt me. It's one of those things where you sort of know its irrational but you cant help it
Oh, you mean the white shower demon? No, yeah, that's real. I mean, just don't keep your eyes closed and you'll be fine.
Puerto Rican here 🙋🏽♀️ It’s so weird to see you guys talk about this lol. We pretty much hear about the chupacabra our whole lives and i’m still terrified of it. And you’re bound to meet someone who has a story. Just two years ago a woman I know woke up to her rabbits (that she kept outside) with holes on their necks and completely drained of blood. I still don’t even like going outside to my backyard at night and i especially never let my dogs outside when it gets dark. We are traumatized over here lmao 😩 but gracias for covering the story and for specifying that this started in PR! ❤️
Other Puerto Rican here, my sister and I we’re literally just talking about this last night 😭 man I remember bringing friends from other countries over and trying to explain to them why we couldn’t go out on the porch at night 😂
Weepa 🤣🤣 another Puerto Rican here to ✌️
Was it confirmed the blood was drained? Was the body examined by someone that could with 100% certainty say the animal's blood was drained?
@@milliediaz9919LOLOL This reminded me of a friend I had when I was way younger whose dad would always make up monsters/build off of urban legends to make sure the friend didn't do stuff like go out at night without an adult around or talk to strangers XD
I remember the don't talk to strangers one specifically because the dad told me the story too and scared the hell out of me, it went something like:
"Be careful around strangers, especially if they're an adult, because they might end up being a monster who will take you away and take away all your body parts one at a time, first they'll take your eyes so you can't see, then they'll take away your mouth so you can't taste anything or talk, etc."
I had sort of forgotten about that so thank you for reminding me, it's a cool memory lolol
@@SpaceRemo noooooo cause the chupacabra was a thing when my dad was in college so when my friends from Venezuela came and they’re like what if we went outside I said no and when they asked why I had to look them dead in the eye and say do you want to lose your blood 😂
Also Jesus your dad wasn’t taking any chances 😭
Ryan is so dramatic in his presentation and Shane is just like hey this is weird and just vibing
18:35
Yea the wolf said to the coyote:
"Dayum shawty lookin good with that small round thang you got thurr"
Love how this felt like a parent trying to explain something to their child. As the child ask a million questions the parent slowing going into madness.
I think my favourite thing about El Chupacabra is how significantly different each instance is, and despite that, they're all attributed to the same thing. The killings in the 70s were somewhat mysterious, but had varied injuries and potentially varied causes. The 95 killings seemed to have much more specific causes of death, which I find the most interesting, but also the water was so muddied by one family going "Hey it's that thing from Species!" and then a bunch of other people going "Oh yeah after I heard a detailed description and saw a drawing I also saw something that vaguely matches up with that".
All the instances in Mexico and other locations are pretty obviously just normal predation and hoaxers honestly, but those Peurto Rican originals have some real questions still unanswered.
I've been waiting for this since the first season of _Buzzfeed Supernatural._ It's truly one of the most fascinating unsolved cases in the world. Also, Shane likes the taste of blood? IT'S HIM!
Forget Demon Shane, it's El Shane-icabra!
@@watershipup7101 But Shane's a lot taller than 3-5 feet, so that means he's been framed, and *Ryan was the chupacabra all along!*
He might just like biting
Chupacabra was very famous here in Brazil too during the 90’s. I remember going to school early in the morning… around 6:30am, it was usually darker depending on the time of the year. There was this big field I should pass by… I was so freaking scared of an encounter with it.😂
“The DNA wasn’t in the archives!”
Yeah, that’s what SHE said, but she’s also walking around calling herself a naturopathic doctor, so she clearly isn’t the most reliable narrator
she also had a taxidermized zebra in the background... probably not a very reliable lady in general
We had something like this happen on my family’s ranch in Texas-our calves (baby cows) were being killed and drained of blood. Turned out to be a coyote with mange that we called “the chupacabra” because of the similarities. My dad ended up putting it out of its misery and we buried it in the pasture. It looked pretty similar to some of the supposed chupacabras.
How was a coyote draining their blood though?
@@casspegg9163A lot of these animals were killed via bite to the neck. A wound to an arterie would both kill the animal quickly AND drain the animal of blood thanks to pressure in the arteries (that spray of blood that happens in movies when someone's neck is cut). So the coyote would just have to drink and lick the blood draining out. I'm a hunter so standard procedure that also helps keep the meat good
Edit: the blood draining part is standard procedure, not the drinking part lol
So it was draining and lapping up their blood and not even eating the animal? Then when u discovered the animal no other animals saw a free meal and nibbled on it?
Did it eat any of the animals or did it just bite it to drain the blood and leave it? Cuz the second option doesn’t make sense to me
@@delirium789may have been because it was sick. Mangey mites aren't very good at using wild dogs as hosts so the animal was likely too fatigued to really tear flesh. It is a lot of work.
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I love seeing people learn about the Chupacabra! If you’re of a certain age and from Puerto Rico you know many family members or friends who wholeheartedly believe in its existence or claim to have seen it.
I really love the back and forth from Ryan and Shane, because you get gold things like "its MEXICAN" and "i know those are TWO different things"
Ryan forgot the most important and likely theory: that the chupacabra is just the monster from the 1995 film Species. This is supported by the investigation done by Benjamin Radford. He determined that Tolentino had seen the movie shortly before her sighting, and when shown a picture from the movie she basically said that it was the creature she saw.
sil from species and the original chupacabra do not look similar at all. one is a sexy humanoid alien, the other is a spikey alien gray.
"I have 5 totally real DNA test reports that show the DNA doesn't match with any animal. They're totally real, I have them, and they are absolutely real. They're real, and they are certainly real. Real".
Had a “chupacabra” found in my hometown. Turns out it was just a hairless raccoon. Covers all the bases including sitting up like a kangaroo and being spotting everywhere. ❤ love this new series
I've seen one of those! they're definitely very strange looking 😭
The pictures of them online are actually pretty cute haha
We don't have raccoons in Chile, or Argentina, probably not in South America. It had to be something else 🤷🏻♀️
@@LilithZephirus so true and here in PR there's no coyote, kangaroos or wolfs!
Wait, why was the raccoon hairless?
I kinda hope Shane and Ryan get to go out to Puerto Rico near the site of the original killings at some point in the future, and walk around/investigate like they did with Bigfoot and Mothman, or maybe interview locals and/or experts and/or potential witnesses like they've done a few times with Unsolved Supernatural. That would be a banger episode to watch.
As a Taino and Puerto Rican, I’d love to hear your take on the chupacabra as a long-standing part of Indigenous folklore known as the Hupia which were also often bat-like humanoids. Keeping in mind that Puerto Rico still doesn’t have any large predators to this day and this was before dogs were introduced, what do you guys think islanders were seeing?
That is SUPER interesting! I wanna hear about that in the debrief for sure
oh my god how did i never even know that! my family is also taino puerto rican but i was born and raised in the continental US, so everytime i was told the stories by my mom and abuela i just always thought that it could be a dog or wolf. *but puerto rico doesn't have native large predators*
If you see someone out of the corner of your eye, in a dark forest or similar, the mind can play tricks. Humans have a natural instinct to fear predators, I guess?
has puerto rico EVER had large predators? like thousands of years ago? depending on how long people have lived on the island and how old the legends are, they could even be stories about, like. megafauna. humans were hunting giant sloths in north america as recently as 11,000 years ago, for example, and i could see how warnings about an animal like that could eventually become folklore.
So my first thought for this was the weird dogs we have, but now that I think of it, I’ve never seen a dog here that matches the description given, even the super sick ones
We need that Shane's sketch be used as a MERCHANDISE!
"This DNA doesn't match any known animal!" (2 matches)
Idk why this woman is treating a coyote-wolf hybrid as unknown to science, they definitely aren't. The entire US eastern coyote population is part wolf lmao
Or like it's a new species. That's not how speciation works.
to the point that they're taking over
@@localabsurdist6661 she just wants fame. She’s probably bored of her mundane life.
@@localabsurdist6661 She's a naturopath, there's *nothing* inside her mind.
She’s just in it for the hype clearly and considering her enjoyment of trophy kills from what i could see in the video i think her case should be fully scrapped from the record.
I love Ryan and Shane’s content, and this is the first time I’ve ever had anything to contribute.
My mother claims she and my aunt saw the shadow of the Chupacabra years ago when I was still a baby. My mother and aunt were in my nursery. The electricity had recently gone out, which is a common occurrence in the more rural parts of the island. Behind the window curtains, they see the shadow of something hovering above the ground, long necked, with small, bat-like wings. My aunt, young and rebellious wanted to lift the curtain up to see what it was. My mother refused. Suddenly the lights in the house flickered back on and the creature took off.
My mother has never changed her story, and my out continues to say they should’ve lifted the curtain.
I've stumbled upon Ryan&Shane content 6 years ago when I was battling a severe depression and was not capable of doing anything except for laying in my bed. Ryan's voice soothed me and helped me through those difficult times and Shane was always able to crack me up. I'm glad that I've kept up with your work, it feels like we've been growing older together. Please never stop creating!
exact same for me too
Hope youre doing well now man!! ❤️
I had the exact same experience
The original description sounds like a large iguana standing on its back legs. Iguanas have thin arms with long claws, scaly skin, coloured spikes on their back, eyes on the sides of their head, no nose, live in the geographical area and some can grow quite large. It might be what was sighted even if it didn't cause the attacks (i don't think they can suck blood). Could be easy to mistake one as another creature in the dark.
GREAT THEORY i hadnt thought of iguanas yet but that makes total sense especially at night if you aren't expecting it that really fits the description
Iguanas are vegetarian & definitely have tails, which they use as weapons. I saw some pretty huge iguanas in Belize/Guatamala.
Man i love how much effort everyone in Watcher puts into their projects. I think Watcher is a channel that is a prime example of Network aTV and big Corporations missing the point on why these types of videos have such a strong pull. The creative freedom Steven, Ryan and Shane a lot one another as well as their employees is so refreshing to see and has payed off in the personal yet poised feel.
This is just a rip off of those 2 guys from Buzzfeed Unsolved.
@@WorldCupWillie Woahh fr?
I'm surprised Ryan didn't bring up the fact that the woman who originally described the creature had recently seen the movie, "Species."
Chupacabra is my personal favorite cryptid, and I think the mangy dog theory is the right answer. Mangy dogs have thin grey fur, the skin looks scaly, the spinal ridges on a thin creature would look like spikes, and if you caught a mangy dog standing up on its hind legs, it'd probably look like a fucked up kangaroo. The alien head is probably the only described feature that doesn't match a dog.
Definitely a dog with mange. One time I saw a fox with mange and I swore it was a monster, but it was not. Figured it out was a sick fox with mange after some googling.
dude, Ryan will never fail to make me laugh when he just acts like a lil shit. The "I just thought I was the one giving the presentation." In response to a reasonable question and the "This may disturb you." after fully showing the image 💀
One time, I read a story about a housewife who encountered the chupacabra in her laundry room and insulted it. The chupacabra got really sad and hid its face. I thought that story was from Benjamin Radford’s “Tracking the Chupacabra,” which I read and wrote several essays on in community college, but upon flipping through the book, I couldn’t find any mention. I want to find the story again very badly because it was hilarious. Imagine finding the chupacabra in your house and calling it a “pendejo.”
So, I'm not sure, but when I was a kid, circa 15 years ago, there was a documentary about the Chupacabra on I think Discovery Channel, and I faintly recall this story as well, so maybe you saw it too, and that is where you remember it from.
Honestly doesn’t sound too far off from a typical boricua mother reaction 😂😂😂😂
@@kiskugya That could be it! I was watching Discovery Channel as a kid at around the same time.
Ryan giving a presentation on a famous beast of folklore is everything I needed right now
You were literally the only reason people used to watch buzz feed, so glad you guys are doing your own thing and not making them anymore money
dna testing is very difficult, and often turns up weird results. especially if the dna has degraded after the animal died
This show will be responsible for reviving slide show presentations with actual slides. No vacation pics, just conspiracies
DEBRIEF ITEM: No one has mentioned that there could be multiple animals involved. Perhaps the mangey dogs (it would have to be a pack to do that much damage to that many animals in one night) or rogue monkeys did the initial attacks, accounting for the puncture wounds. But the subsequent draining of the blood could have been some other animal(s), particularly insects or other scavengers who would go for oozing, draining wounds. What say you?
A wolf can easily kill that many sheep in one night, so maybe a coyote can as well.
@@tinyrocks7549 Perhaps so, but 15 cows, as mentioned in the first event? Sounds like more than one canine out there.
Autopsies of the attacked livestock revealed that all of the animals had plenty of blood. The bloodsucking was a myth; it's just mangey animals
What if it’s just a couple crazy people
@@MagicalSkyWizard A couple crazy people traveling that far over that long a period of time? Several couple of crazy people would be more likely.
shane's drawing of the chupacabra at 1:36 :')))) the cutest
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Monkeys is the first Chupacabra theory that ever made sense to me. Baboons have those really long teeth (long straw-like bite), some are tail-less, and they can definitely stand on their hind legs. AND, they actually have the lips to apply suction to a wound. Complete draining of blood seems unlikely, but so does a weird little alien thing.
And maybe the monkeys had mange. They wouldn't be going after animals like that unless sick, after all.
Really enjoy the small chupacabra drawing in Shane's book. Scrunkly, as it should be
Smell of sulfur, small wings and scaly appearance? Surprised Ryan didn’t have a demon theory in there
I also thought that! Sulfuric smell is a dead giveaway
Awww i m so happy you are back! You have no idea how much i ve and all of us missed you❤️ Loved every single episode at the beginning and then i was obsessed ove the fact that even tho that every story was disturbing the way you presented was so calming.When i found you again yesterday i was so shocked.My bf was looking at me like i was going nuts😂😂 you r so good at what your doing,never stop🙏🏻
"Where did the wings come from?"
"God?"
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I'm from the Philippines and the first thing that came to mind was a bayawak/monitor lizard. My mom as a child saw one "standing" in the dark and just about shit herself, but she realized it was just a monitor lizard leaning upright on a chicken wire fence... Because it ate chickens and was drooling over its next meal on the other side of said fence. I checked and monitor lizards aren't found in the areas where the chupacabra was reported to be found, but I think the idea that the chupacabra might be a similar giant lizard is interesting. 👀
I think its more logical that an animal (like your lizard) somehow got transported to a different territory than that a supernatural creature exists. People do trade in exotic animals and then handle those animals irresponsibly.
@@randihardy6642 I think this makes sense, especially considering the proximity to Florida, and all of the invasive species there.
yeah i was actually also thinking some kind of lizard/monitor, especially since komodo dragons for example are apex predators
i wonder if it could have been an iguana, i know mexico (yucatan) has a lot of iguanas like how america has squirrels but i think a local creature like that would have been recognized immediately
Hopefully For Debrief:
Hey! I'm a Puerto Rican who has heard about all these stories throughout my childhood, and I feel that I could bring some more context to this.
There are many legends that surround the Chupacabra and one of them was that they might’ve been alien like creatures. It’s always been rumored that the rainforest “El Yunque” is a hub for extraterrestrials because there have supposedly been many UFO sightings in the area. People could’ve just been watching a lot of alien movies at the time and developed the characteristics from there.
There was even a point in time in which a mayor when on a hunt into the woods with a few men in order to search for the Chupacabra and they were all endlessly made fun of by the public. It’s still something people bring up and laugh about to this day. Though cayotes aren't a thing in Puerto Rico, monkeys are a lot more common here than people think. Just a few years ago the authorities became a laughingstock to the people because they tried to catch a monkey and it took them days to be able to catch it because of the inexperience that the island has in dealing with them. Usually, we just let them do their own thing and they are almost exclusively seen in rural areas which is why it would make sense that farmers had the most sightings of the “Chupacabras”.
It’s actually really funny because in Puerto Rico, the modern-day perception of what in looks like is mostly the doglike creature described in other Latin American countries. It basically feels like a game of telephone that circulated right back with an entirely different description than the original. Now a days its mostly older folks who might still believe in it, but it’s now used as a myth to tell children, so they’ll behave and not go out at night at the risk of the “Chupacabra” getting them.
I guess the question is:
Given a bit more context from the place where the myth seemed to have originated from, does it still seem likely to you that it exists, or does it seem like a rumor that people ended up just going along with because they couldn’t find an explanation? (Ryan don’t worry about the blood sucking aspect, you can just chalk that all up to the vampires.)😊
I went to Bayamon in the mid 90's and I was scared as shit because of all the stories plus Primer Impacto made ratings with them stories of El Chupacabra. Que tiempos aquellos 😂
Any local belief that it could have been a person with murderer on the brain who didn’t go after people? Or maybe even did but no one connected the dots…
There was also a lot of shows during that time that was centered in alien sightings and finds, plus primer impact and sabado gigando making they’re respective segments about Chupi really helped popularize the idea of a blood sucking alien like being.
Fellow Puerto Rican raised the island over here! I second this post. There's also theories that it could've been sightings of a type of mongoose that reside in the rural areas. As someone who has lived in Orocovis their whole lives, there's some crazy local theories and reports that still run around to this day and many people in from the rural area still totally believe it exists.
Compare the original reports to that of the HAV-HANNUAE-KONDRAS, an extraterrestrial species that the KGB wrote were the vampires of Romania, in a manual that has been translated to English.
16:23 CAN'T STOP LAUGHING AT RYAN'S IMMEDIATE PAUSE AND LOOK TO SHANE AS HE REALISED HIS MISTAKE
shanes personality just completely changed the moment he saw the monkey. Insane
Question for debrief: A common trend in cryptozoological research is that it leads to new ecological discoveries, but once things are discovered they’re no longer considered cryptids and the cryptozoology that led there is still considered nonsense (like the research into yetis in the Himalayas that found a new species of bear.) If the chupacabra is a new canine species, is it still a cryptid? Or would that prove it isn’t a cryptid?
I would say that if its the only one, or if it has supernatural traits or abilities, its a cryptid. If there are others of it, and its a species that reproduces, it is simply a newly discovered animal
@@music0cool but isn’t anything we can study by definition natural? If we can study it and understand it it’s not supernatural…
@@rationallyruby True haha
I'm only a couple minutes in but I couldn't help but notice Shane's little cat drawing in his notebook. made me smile 😊
I think I need to binge watch this channel... Shane and Ryan are great at making me laugh or at least crack a smile... Definitely needed in the darkest time of my life -sigh- RIP mom ❤️
💔change can suck but time heals all wounds. its okay to move forward & enjoy life when ready, your mom would want you to flourish, not languish.❤🩹
Thank you for clearing up that the chupacabra was originally from Puerto Rico. I always get slightly upset when someone says it originated in Mexico. I love my native cryptid
It was interesting for me because I’ve always heard it translated at “Peruvian Goat Sucker” so at least I didn’t think Mexico. But I was still wrong so I’m happy to know the correct origins now
Right. Was very happy to hear that. Like i haven’t been scared as fuck of the chupacabra my whole life here in PR for people to say it’s from mexico 😭😭 lmao
Boricua pride! 🇵🇷 😂
Had to explain to my sister that it isn’t Mexican 😭 we’re native PR but she was born in America and always heard the chupacabra is Mexican native
Same here! I get upset about it too!
I think we need to see Ryan & Shane's notebooks after each of these episodes. I'd imagine there's just unrelated random doodles & Stussys.
Their Instagram gives some pretty hilarious scans of the doodles
sidenote: Shane's just always doodling. nothing more. He makes little flip books, etc while sitting there. unless he can SHOW US.....hmmmmm........
For debrief: the reports said the ‘blood was drained’. Was there any blood on the scene or was is all removed (or consumed?) was any other tissue missing? Had the blood simply drained out naturally due to the wounds?
Starving dogs (even vampiric dogs) would likely eat the meat, not just the blood.
It’s not a snake, it’s not a bat… (Shane) “It’s gotta be a Chewbacca” 5:55 😂😂 I died
I'm brazilian and this episode really took me back to the times chupacabra was a very hot topic around here, it made really nostalgic. Great work!
Do you or people around you have a favourite theory?
@@VoxAsteri My mom definitely believes the attacks were caused by men from the start, given that they were very suspicious and they haven't really occurred again since then. I don't know if the first ones were staged by people, but the later ones, after the myth spread were highly likely just people trying to copy the original ones to spook others or draw some attention. I also personally think most of the sightings were just dogs with mange combined with people's hyperactive imagination
@@VoxAsteri Also brazilian here! A story my grandpa used to tell me: early 00s and he went working in the fields @ Santa Teresa/ES, the farm he stayed at had something killing the animals and lurking around the property. One day he and his work buddies allegedly saw a chupacabra and said he straight up killed it with a slingshot lmao. He said the thing was bigger than any dog he had ever seen w/ barely any fur. I was like 7 when he told the story to me, could've been a scary story/a lie but he did keep his slingshot next to his bible (he was very religious) so idk I believe him lol
Fun fact coywolves (wolf coyote hybrids) are actually fairly common and are one of the problems threatening wolf populations. When wolves breed with coyotes it reduces the amount of purebred wolves that could be born- which is a problem because of the endangered status of wolves
Question for debrief: What are some theories about why the animals had no blood in them or at least appeared to have no blood in them?
Edit: Apparently when people were sent to inspect the corpses of the goats that were killed, they found that the blood of many of the goats had simply been coagulated in the interior of the goats. In simple terms that just means it clogged inside the goats body which is normal for animals after they die. This or the animals had simply lost a lot of blood due to the attacks on them and only appeared bloodless is the main reason the animals appeared to have no blood.
If the damage was to the artery in the neck, a lot of blood would just come out very quickly. Really not that strange. Predators go for the neck for a reason.
"Ey, this might disturb you," killed me 😂