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- r/Minecraft moderator removes the greatest redstone creation over a technicality.
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sammyuri here (one of the creators). Personally I'm no longer that frustrated that they removed my post, because if doing so brings attention to how... questionable the moderators' decisions are, then I see it as a net positive for the community. I just hope this situation doesn't have to happen again in the future.
WEEEEE
Comment for the algorithm
Thats definitely a silver lining in this grey situation.
@@IHateMyChanneI aye
Post it on r/phoenix I think everyone will bring attention to that
I'm actually one of the moderators on the server mentioned (not r/Minecraft, I'm a mod on ORE). Sammyuri has been working on this as a secret project for months and we've been very excited to see what he came up with considering how incredible his previous project was. I was very impressed with what he and Uwerta managed to do and equally frustrated when the r/Minecraft post was removed for a minimal amount of advertising which essentially boiled down to giving proper credit despite the large community praise the post received. I understand enforcing the rules, but not to such an extent where it actively goes against what the community wants.
Being unable to give credit simply because it counts at advertising indirectly makes r/minecraft advertise stealing work, no? Seriously sucks that the post was taken down for basically no reason
I agree with Phoenix, rule should be changed. Can a removed post be brought back?
reddit mod cringe moment
Holy cow you worked on this?! That’s completely insane man well done
and that's why reddit mods are some of the most pathetic human beings in existence.
A year ago I made a QR code generator in pure redstone. I posted it on r/Minecraft and people liked it, but eventually it got removed because there is a rule against using URL shorteners. The rule states that URL shorteners cannot be used, and that this extends to links in QR codes. For context, the QR code I generated and showed in the post only contained text and no URLs. Upon explaining that to the mods, they replied saying that QR codes are obfuscated to the human eye and left my post as removed. It seems like the mods are trigger-happy with anything that even comes close to *technically* breaking the rules without considering the purpose of the rule and whether it should even be applied in the specific case.
Good thing I've never used r/minecraft it seems
Sounds like a discord hellhole
@@Aerialyn It makes fandom wikis look good by comparison, and if that ain't damning with faint praise...
hi rebane
So I would tend to agree with you if not for the fact that QR codes have been used in incredibly malicious ways and humans have no way of knowing what they contain before scanning them, and by that point it's too late. Your project sounds insanely cool and I think it is definitely worth spotlighting but I don't know if we should encourage people to just trust that a QR code from a talented creator doesn't contain something malicious on principle. People wield their talents in many ways and it is far from unheard of for otherwise talented or even established creators to take advantage of the reach their talents allow them.
@@Aviivix there are very easy to find scanners that will only read the data and not immediately use it to redirect to a website or steal your passwords. (Ex: "Scandit", mobile app)
The argument that you can't know the content of a QR code until it does something is simply not true. It's like saying you can't read a book because you will immediately start listening to whatever is in it (probably the excuse the r/Minecraft mods give as well)
Also FYI a qr code is literally just a set of numbers written in a certain manner. If you have the standardisation papers on hand, you can even try reading it straight off the image.
typical reddit, this technicality stuff has happened to me on so many subreddits so many times that I gave up ever posting anything again years ago. they are so rigid and don't even care about your reasoning - I cannot have any patience dealing with reddit moderators, it's the one thing that really breaks me down faster than anything, trying to make a reddit moderator see how backwards and tunnel visioned they are is just a waste of your life, it's uniquely insidious
same thing happened to me on discord once or twice before
This hasn't happened to me on Reddit but it happened once on Discord.
just bhop away from their bans
Yo desinc
it's the man
I was perma banned from r/minecraft for saying that jeb's book of design principals is a detriment to the creativity of the game. It was a single constructive, on-topic, and civil comment that lead to a perma ban. When I modmailed the moderators to ask why they thought it was worthy of a permanent ban, they muted my account without a response.
fuck reddit mods :(
Consequences of giving a bunch of mentally 12 year olds a really small amount of power, a tyranny in the form of a subreddit.
That’s awful to hear. The more I hear about r/Minecraft mods the more they sound like discord mod stereotypes.
God damn, if that and the chat reporting fiasco isn't enough proof that the subreddit's mods are power-hungry morons with a hard-on for Mojang, then I don't know what is.
Jeb's book of design principals and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race
as someone who uses reddit, i can safely say that most people agree the r/minecraft mods can kindly fuck off from existence. this is a great example of the high quality posts that get undeservingly removed and taken down everyday.
they are too focused on enforcing the rules as strictly as possible due to much much more actual cases of shitposts which should be removed. however, the mods' authority on r/minecraft has become a tyranny rather than a helpful enforcement.
if you don't believe me, go ahead and make a high effort post on r/minecraft right now and see if you get banned. chances are, it's not good enough for the mods.
Fr, every time I post on reddit it always gets removed and I get banned for what reason? Idk
Maybe none of it should be removed, mods also have agenda.
@@LucasImpulse there has to be some rules, it is the official minecraft subreddit afterall, not r/2b2t
But the MC mods take it too far
Mojang has gone from my most liked to my potentially hated at this point.What is this circus Mojang
Edit:Aight just to clear things up a little bit I didnt do this comment only based on the reddit mod's action.I made the comment based on all the things that have been happening lately.Sure main fault might be of Microsoft but Mojang has some issues too
BASED AF COMMENT
It is not "advertising" at all. It is crediting. Arguably, without the server credit, that should be a much worse offense to the mod team.
How is “if you want to learn about redstone go to this server” not advertising?
Finally someone calls out the -borderline- power tripping of the mods. Removing seemingly random posts just because they feel like it.
borderline?how's it borderline and not full power tripping
They sprinted over that borderline a long time ago.
The mods of r/Minecraft even went as far as deleting my post there about finding a brick pyramid in an older version of the game, and gave absolutely ZERO explanation as to why.
once I found a seed with a snow grass block without the snow on it (which is extremely rare btw) and posted it on the subreddit and they literally removed it bc it was somewhere along the line of "uninteresting".
1. why is that a rule.
2. HOW IS IT UNINTERESTING!
@@dashat3938 apparently the mods are not interested in the game and its mechanics, which makes me question why they even moderate the subreddit in the first place
A mod enforcing the letter of the law to destroy a beloved creation that someone spent likely weeks of their life on is possibly the purest summation of Reddit I can imagine.
Watch them mods repost that exact content in a few weeks to farm karma
A mod thinking he's enforcing the letter of the law and protecting world from terrorism and total utter collapse
That creation is probably lovely saved on a .MP4 file. You're really overreacting hete without knowing how Reddit works.
More like attempting to silence someone who pretty much only wanted to show off their creation. Still shitty though.
Probably not weeks. More like months.
r/Minecraft is every single Reddit stereotype made real. They take any form of basic work crediting or source listing as a form of self promotion. So a vast majority of the posts on the sub are stolen and you can’t correct that mistake without getting banned for self promo. Absolutely insane
Literally anyone:"Wait, that's illegal!"
Reddit mods:"kek"
File a DMCA copyright claim. They literally can't ignore it without getting sued.
@@ZeroKitsune To file a copyright claim, you have to have a copyright. If you think that people go through the copyright process on their minecraft builds, you're sorely mistaken. Even if someone tried, the copyright would almost definitely be denied.
@@jadekaiser7840 There is no process. Copyright is automatic.
@@Pence128 Who told you that, and why on Earth did you believe them?
It is absurd that a real human sat down and noticed that quick URL and the server credit and decided that they needed to delete what was one of the most popular posts on their subreddit in the past year based on a minute technicality.
i think the moderators are teenagers
@@yunyang9532and why would that matter?
@@jurajsintaj6644 who's side are you on, first?
@@yunyang9532why would that matter either?
@@when-do-we-get-a-block-button and who's side are you on?
Gotta love Reddit mods, using the literal lightest definition of a rule as an excuse to punish someone. I have a hunch they don't know what grass feels like considering how often they focus on their "job".
No, they are being fair and are just doing their job. It's not their fault that the rules are so vague and open to interpretation. And it's not like they enjoy punishing people, they are just doing what they feel is necessary to maintain order on the site. So please, don't hate the mods, they are just doing their job.
@@mash5271 "Job" Fucking kek.
Being a Reddit mod is entirely voluntary. There's a reason for the stigma against moderators. If someone makes a bad call, they should be called out in it. Imagine if courts enforced laws down to the letter. They would be horribly unjust. Context is important.
@@mash5271 Is removing an masterpiece that give credit to others considered "MaiNtAin Order oN tHe Site?". The original post did nothing wrong.
It is basically ruining the site by removing good content and nitpicking on the rules.
Do a police take down anyone who bring scissors in your country because they are considered weapon, and "rules are so vague and open to interpretation"
@@mash5271 your profile picture and your attitude do match
@@mash5271 it doesn't take a genius to figure out that crediting people =/= advertisement of a server
I remember when minecraft calculators were the coolest thing ever
I remember when someone used a Xbox Kinect in Minecraft
That was cool
@Queen Elizabeth 🅥 why dishonoring her
They still are
@@laphoenix9185 There is no honor in monarchy. Just as there is no honor in spamm botting.
@Queen Elizabeth 🅥
Leave.
I tried sharing my latest build there, since there is "Builds" flair.. Without saying or linking anything related to my channel and it got removed 4 times.
It was just a simple screenshot of the build.
Oof
Someone got jealous of your build
💀
I posted a picture of my nether portal generating inside of a basalt deltas wall ab 20 blocks away from any air blocks during a speedrun. Got removed too.
Just post it to minecraftbuilds. They are way more chill in my experience
Silver lining is that this whole situation probably spread the message about his build even further than it would have staying up on the Minecraft subreddit.
I hope this backfires massively for whoever made that call.
I moderate a high-traffic subreddit (2,000,000 members) that also has SP banned. There's not a single chance we'd ever delete this for promoting the build's creators. SP rules are for people spamming every page they can think of every single day with low effort posts. In short, it's for spammers, not legitimate masterpieces like this. Giving credit is literally basic human decency IMO, especially for a project like this. People deserve to know the individuals who did something this incredible. It shouldn't have to just be "show and tell" to be acceptable like that makes zero sense to me. Ironically though, it would still be deleted on the sub I mod (r/mealtimevideos) because it's under 5 minutes :/
Same thing happened to me I’m pretty sure I was the first person to ever get to the max xp level that can ever be achieved in minecraft. I posted a picture of me with the levels in my survival world in the background was a build of my TH-cam plaque they said I was trying to advertise and removed the post I then completely removed the plaque from the picture and I then got banned for attempting to re upload the same image. Seemed pretty unfair.
it is
That's just bullshit
What in the actual fuck.
they live for that sheet it's so sad
Literally you can't make a mistake in today's social climate, any attempt to remedy the situation to appease someone just ends in them getting more angry. Maybe we should do what happened to r/worldpolitics and just bomb it with NSFW posts till the mods give up and give it to someone more competent. Mostly a joke but hey, if you cant beat the shitposts, join them.
r/Minecraft mods are so trigger happy. I bet they let out a quiet moan everytime they remove a post or ban a user. It's like their fetish.
Don't forget whenever they mute a user for asking a simple question in modmail.
They're the cable guys from South Park irl.
They're reddit mods, what do you expect from them
@@MetaCynical we're soooorry
@@MetaCynical It's eerie how that's from an episode FOCUSING on Minecraft.
A while back I posted a video to r/Minecraft. It was about a decade old spiral piston elevator design I managed to recreate. I personally thought it was the coolest elevator design I'd ever seen and thought it needed to make a comeback. Apparently I wasn't alone because the post got over 30K upvotes and tons of people asked for a tutorial. So obviously, I made one (which is still on my channel if you wanna see it) and then posted it to Reddit as an update, and also went to my original post and linked the tutorial to everyone who asked for it. Turns out I'd forgotten about the rule that said that you needed to have a posting history on the subreddit before being allowed to post TH-cam videos, so my second post was removed. My first one, since the video was hosted on Reddit itself, was fine right? Nope! It was also removed because of the links to my tutorial in the replies.
While yes, if you apply the rule to the letter I technically broke the rules, in essence what happened is I had a viral post removed because people asked for a tutorial and I gave them one
This EXACT SAME thing happened to me. I posted a 3D printer made with only redstone, no command blocks, same idea, that took me 2,000 hours to make onto r/Minecraft, and it was taken down due to "not enough interaction". After getting enough interactions according to the auto-moderator, it was taken down by a HUMAN moderator, even though I literally had enough interactions at that point. I kept getting more "interactions" and re-posting it, and eventually they just banned me. And that's how I got perma-banned from r/Minecraft.
Funny how the far the bar of peak dogshit bureaucracy goes on Reddit; What you emphasized is only one of the better Reddit cases, I had a similar experience as you on r/Minecraft.
The minecraft subreddit is so bad now, they remove this but allow the lowest effort posts like "I just started the game, whats this", where some new player has taken a picture of their computer/tv screen (thats right, not even a screenshot) with a zombie. Google exists you know...
Honestly, I wish an alterantive minecraft subreddit was created.
might as well create a subreddit called r/MinecraftButBetter just to spite them
Pls seriously do that. Make sure the mods aren’t douchebags and u will have the better r/Mc and take over in the long run
Fun fact: something similar to this happened in the r/ark (dinosaur survival game more in line with Rust than Minecraft), something similar happened, and someone just made a new subreddit, where half of the users went
I mean you have 400k subs, phoenix has 2 mil. There's plenty of other bigger minecraft youtubers who are probably upset with how it's being run. Just work together and make a new subreddit. Advertise tf out of it. r/minecraftofficial or something
We at Minecraft@Home have had a fair share of issues with r/Minecraft, and seeing this was the final nail in the coffin for us.
We have decided to create r/MinecraftUnlimited, which welcomes anyone and anything Minecraft-related, and will be moderated way more sensibly.
Please help us spread the word!
It always takes a bit of humanity to apply the rules in the correct way.
"Human moderator"
Yeah right.
@Adolfizzz0 bro wrote a whole book💀
Edit: he made it small
@@OxyToxyNT000 was it titled, "Mein Kampf"?
Bots and Langley glowies are the only mods on reddit
Humanity? We're talking about Reddit
No humans on reddit only p*dos
It's unfortunate that the post was taken down. Something extremely talented and genius was removed for such a basic reason. I don't think we all love the event that happened. But anyways, go support them since we need more creative minds within the Minecraft community!
This reminds me of a post I made on r/Minecraft a while ago where I posted a picture of my Minecraft themed iPhone home screen using (new at the time) widget update to iOS. It allowed me to make the apps Minecraft blocks and add a photo widget with a Minecraft house, that all fitted great on the Minecraft terrain (that was 2d like) in the background with some apps being dirt, stone, or ores. It took at least an hour to make the widgets work, take the photos of blocks in game, and putting it all together. But then it was removed for not relating to Minecraft, even though it does in some way.
There's a huge difference between credit and advertising. Simply having a server name shouldn't count, as a server can be totally closed and have no mechanism for people to join but should receive due credit.
If the video had ended with a "sign up for "server name" here", that's different. Hmm. Letter not spirit of the law, much?
Can't even post Let's play videos there, even though I would love to see them there.
@@kyda7972 Rule of thumb: You can't post anything there.
The stereotypical reddit mods will almost always take it down if it is anything marginally high effort
Why?
Reddit mods i guess
@@Gamersoul333 My minecraft videos are certainly high effort. Still can't post them there. And yeah, I quit using reddit for that reason. I only post my MC videos and screenshots on a new account there.
@@Gamersoul333 They just want to power trip and are jealous of people doing hard work
@@Gamersoul333 I would be inclined to believe that their reasoning might be that any sufficiently high-effort content could be interpreted as self-advertisement as per the rules. Because of course, anyone who puts that much effort into something must have ulterior motives for posting to reddit.
not to say I agree with it of course
"Life as a content creator isn't usually about reaching milestones. It's about value and integrity. If you have that, you're halfway there."
What an inspiring message. Congratulations on 1 billion views!
@Queen Elizabeth 🅥 god saved the queen!
@Queen Elizabeth 🅥 FAKE QUEEN, DISRESPECTFUL TO THE DEAD
TH-cam history will also remember you fondly if you have integrity
True, I love how different pheonix is in terms of quality compared to other youtubers
Yet most youtubers didnt reach that even mrbeast
When things get to this point, you have to wonder why there are moderators at all and not just bots that can do the exact same literal interpretation much faster.
Because in the end, the only difference between a person and a bot when it comes to moderation is that a person can much more easily understand context.
Instead, you have the human moderator doubling down on enforcing rules in the most literal sense on a technicality that hardly qualifies rather than what they were intended for.
Literally just use a script or a chimpanzee at that point.
r/MineCraft has one of the worst mod teams I’ve ever seen.
This incredible project being silenced for a single line of text is so awful.
This is like being fined for littering because you poured out a drink.
“Hey! You can’t leave trash on the ground, that’s littering!”
“I… poured out a perfectly safe liquid…”
We at Minecraft@Home have had our fair share of issues with r/Minecraft, and seeing this was the final nail in the coffin for us.
We have decided to create r/MinecraftUnlimited, which welcomes anyone and anything Minecraft-related, and will be moderated way more sensibly.
We'd appreciate if you helped us spread the word and became part of the movement.
Commenting to boost this. I'm glad there are people working to build great communities everywhere 💚
"your post has been removed for advertising different server"
replying for comment boost
up
Replying to the reply for comment boost
No way this was removed for such a small, pointless and... subtle reason.
Applying rules with no respect to your own community is a bad.
Human moderators are also needed to do these sort of decisions... otherwise that r/Minecraft could as well use automated rule checking bots and get rid of human moderators entirely...
Welp, now Mojang is headed down the same path... I figure at this point such moderation is just the future of Minecraft. The creativity is slowly being drained away.
@@StuffandThings_ Minecraft is dying. Every day mojang stabs it again and again
It was performed by a human.
Welcome to reddit my friend
@@cimex7492 who was acting like a robot.
One of my post went to the trending page of Reddit . It had like 50k+ upvotes
But the next day it was removed for some reason that I still can't figure it out .
The r/minecraft mod's logic goes against basic procedure of crediting and citing sources in projects and creations. Applying law to this there is an extremely good reason professors and teachers have you cite ALL your sources, so that way they can see the parts that you put in not as plagiarized, but as helping to add to your essay by expanding further on it. If they didn't give credit then they'd be under fire by the people who let them use their server and resources, it's a lose/lose scenario that goes to show that rules arent meant to be so cutthroat, even the law itself can be bent and worked around to favor others, and a judge certainly wouldn't force a person to not show off their new invention to others just because they properly credited companies that lender them support.
Really sad to see a masterpiece get taken down. I hope the moderators get replaced or at the least be given treatment in order to be actually called a real "moderator" and promote these dedicated people especially because they literally built minecraft, in minecraft!
Edit: Some "grammar" corrections.
the thing is r/Minecraft is full of HELP ME things, in which kids, CAN GOODLE those things which will take them less than a mintues INSTEAD of posting on r/Minecraft asking for help "How can i get BOTTLES of HONEY safely?"
definitely dis isnt KARMA farming. no , if you think in that way then you are pathetic.
those are the people who removed the post, there is virtually no chance it will be brought back
they won't rethink, because they're reddit moderators with no life
r/Minecraft mods are just some brainless assholes. They will never bring it back.
That is a nice check-mark, behind the name. Unfortunately it is not the right one. You should also kick yourself for impersonating a monarch of many countries who also has died just recently.
Okay what the hell. I was impressed when people made a simple calculator with redstone. Oh God I can't imagine bug fixing that thing I am having second hand dev nightmares.
Considering how well thought-out and designed the CPU part of this project is, I wouldn't be surprised if they planned the project in something like a logic designer first, like it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to write something like an emulator for it so you could debug the program separately from the CPU.
It would also make it way easier to debug the CPU itself. Like unit testing sorta.
@Adolfizzz0 Yes
@@cloyun-hee9564 Most likely you're correct. Even my comparatively primitive CPU was designed in a logic emulator, otherwise it would be hell and a half to debug and test.
Redstone developers are genuinely built different. Like they're probably evolved beyond humanity. That is the only way they can do this stuff
Well one thing still stands there though both in software development and minecraft cpus... That is spilling water. Literally no warning, it will just be full of errors or cause the hardware to not boot up.
you're a good man, Phoenix. Thank you for your service. The new top creations fight a lot more [mod]ern noise.
to keep the community we've had, we have to protect and support these creators.
Thank you for making this video, had you not, I wouldn't have had the server brought to my attention. I didn't even notice it when I first watched the video because I was so focused on how awesome the project was lol!
I feel like we need to start some type of resistance against the r/minecraft mods.
Just spamm with a ton of Reddit accounts posting stuff you’d see from discord media arguments
Break the rules
Overwork mods lol
@@Blitz_maniac We need to organize a date and time were all people partizipating make a post complaining about the moderators all at once. We need to send thousends of posts so the mods get that they need to change the rules and kick some mods out of the team.
@@wumwum42 Operation Shitspam: Destroy r/minecraft
REVOLUTION
@@alexanderthegreat6682 VIVA LE REVOLUTION
Like 90% of the mods on reddit have had a nasty history of having a "power fantasy" when it comes to "enforcing" the rules. It's sad to see but there isn't much we can do on it realistically because if we tried to ask for change about it on reddit the mods would just take it down, and reddit itself wouldn't bat an eye. It happened in the past, and it's a real shame what one of the reddit co-founders has done to the site; Prioritizing money over its original image and integrity.
Bro they literally just ripped off Digg it and then -totally legally- took down Digg it via several DDos attacks.
What fucking integrity did they ever have??
Didn't they even tried to erase the memory of one if the founders? Truly despicable.
you are completely right
@@nunyabiznes33 No... The founder that was imprisoned killed himself.
Past a certain threshold reddit subreddits should only have mods elected democratically
i remember during the brief period where i browsed r/minecraftsuggestions (not an official subreddit in any capacity, literally just a place where people would brainstorm about ideas for potential content in minecraft), one of the posts i made received a comment from one of the mods on that subreddit basically stating that he didn't like the idea i had and was actively considering getting the post removed and taken down SOLELY because he didn't like it. i don't know if that's an actual official policy of said subreddit that they can use as grounds for removing your post, but regardless, it was enough to turn me off of that particular subreddit entirely, so i left.
so uh, yeah. subreddit mods are the big cringe basically
edit: i went back and looked thoroughly over the subreddit's rules, and the only thing i can think of that may have warranted its removal is the rule "don't be overly unrealistic", which basically translates to "if your idea doesn't fall in line with how _we_ think minecraft should be, it's getting the boot". so yeah, dumb subreddit with dumb rules moderated by dumb people. at the very least, it seems to sport only a few hundred daily users compared to r/minecraft's several thousand, so it doesn't seem like it's making any undeserved traction any time soon
I completely agree. The mod who removed it is the same type of person that raised their hand in class for a question they already knew the answer to.
finally a big youtuber talks about the r/minecraft mods being abusive
KNOW right I had a post removed of a big castle I made because the same reason 'Server Advertising' I didn't say any server apart from in a reply to a comment where someone asked if they could download the map & I responded with it's on server go to this part so answering a question gets it taken down it's such power abuse & petty
@@mrslagowhoreusrex6300 lol that’s ridiculous, they removed your whole post just for one innocent comment? Geez that place has serious issues.
reminds me of the time i showed off my cool pig farm on r/minecraft and it got deleted because those mfs thought it was related to technoblade 🤣
watch how any future post phoenix makes on the sub gets removed
@@noscopespider what.
I've heard stories about how bad r/Minecraft's moderation team is but I didn't expect them to be this bad.
Well I've seen worse, not on reddit but a forum for a certain abandonware fighting game. Literally they will ban you for downloading characters and maps of you don't discuss in their forum. Not just a normal ban, an IP ban.
That takes the cake for me, and yes I also got banned on there. Just downloaded characters mabe by the community, never broke any rules. Bam check the forum, got IP banned.
But r/minecraft now is definitely a too 10 worst moderated community site/forum I've seen.
Bro i was having a full on 33 minutes deep discussion about something in Overwatch 2 in their subreddit but it got removed for “advertising” just because i used my Vtuber avatar while talking (because i was literally making a video while playing the game and was in queue the whole time, yeah the queue lasted for 37 minutes before i quit the game) so they assumed i was advertising my vtuber model even though i never mentioned it not even a single time throughout the whole video. Mods will remove anything they don’t like.
note:
the server stuff is mentioned by name ca 21 seconds (the start, and the some of the credits) of the 184 second video (ca 11.4% of the video)
and the ip is shown for ca 1 second (ca 0.54% of the video)
Thank you for making this kind of a video phoenix, bringing attention to underrated creators is something that should happen more often. As for the r/minecraft mod team it's almost unanimously agreed that their rules and judgements are a joke, nothing good is allowed to be shared and they nitpick incredibly hard. Almost all the posts over there are low effort and karma farming but there's almost nothing we can do about it. Hopefully your influence can slowly change that. . .
Maybe there will be the option to make an unofficial sub without those mods?
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@@b.tettenborn5986 The problem is that when most people search minecraft on the search bar r/Minecraft is the first subreddit to show up because of a large number of members in it.
So even if we create an alternative to r/Minecraft with better rules it needs to have like around 50-100k members at least otherwise it'll probably die after a few weeks due to inactivity
It's not even a recent thing, it's been the case for YEARS. Yes, there is a lot of low-quality content on r/Minecraft, but so much high-quality stuff gets caught in the cross-fire.
no point staying with a sinking ship, you owe them nothing so why not keave and create your own space?
The fact he made that thing with just redstone vanilla minecraft (excluding the server enhancements) is fricken INSANE!
And his reward for his insane and 500% respectable effort was to get his post taken down smh
And in SURVIVAL at that!!!!
@@SweetSideOfFries it wasnt made in survival what that'd be ridiculous
@@SweetSideOfFries uhh.. no?
@@Mr.Engine993 And over such a stupid reason too
This feels like a lonesome group of scientists in the 60s painstakingly designing and building a computer using very limited technology just to get rejected for being too complicated to be practical
yeah this is a huge problem with reddit every time i try to post something it always gets removed for a dumb reason like this thing
Funny how someone with a name like Phoenix is the one watching Minecraft go up in flames
I wonder what things will be like a year from now. Will Minecraft redeem itself, or find some way to terminally shit the bed?
@@connor8292 from what's been happening lately, i assume the latter.
@@connor8292 I think it's finally on the decline. I mean it had a really really good run, obviously, but everything's time comes eventually
@@curlygurly2112 Thing is that they could have ended it on a high note and leave minecraft on a good legacy, but now they are taking the corporate route and permanently ruining it's image due to incompetence/greed*
Seriously, what's with gaming nowadays with corporations ruining everything
@Queen Elizabeth 🅥 ok why
Sammyuri: makes 3d minecraft with redstone
r/minecraft mods: I'm about to ruin this man's whole career
Kinda the opposite tho, since controversy generates more attention...
and they failed.
Who doesn't hate reddit mods?
negative press is also good press
@@tianyongchew2708 deltarune fandom, mods on that subreddit are pretty cool
i had a post on the minecraft subreddit with like 30k upvotes and they removed it for absolutely no reason and gave no explanation
i remember posting a thing about a command that lets you have baby rare blue axolotls but it got removed too
i’m shy so i just left it like that-
i don’t have reddit anymore bc i fear people will make fun of me-
A rule against advertising servers sounds very against what Minecraft's online communities are about. If anything the subreddit should be ALL ABOUT advertising servers! Especially stuff like High Performance Redstone and Build The Earth
The rule is most likely there to avoid people spamming self-promo from their own servers, however in the case of what happened to the reddit post mentioned, it's a very bad application of that rule.
@@TheDefB if there isn’t a rule against spam posts as a whole (which spamming server links would be encompassed by) then that’s an even bigger problem
@@alexsiemers7898 That is not the point. Just look at /r/mcservers and tell me you want all that in the general purpose subreddit. Every third child playing minecraft makes a server and deems it worthy of advertising and it overall degrades the sub experience. But again this application of the rule is pathetic
Check out a Minecraft server advertising sub. It is hell.
I agree with the rule but I don't agree with the enforcement of it.
@@alexsiemers7898 I'm not talking about a singular individual spamming server ads, I'm referring to the fact that a lot of different people could all advertise their own servers and steamroll the sub.
As you guys might be aware, it is September 13/14.
Gonna check on NameMC... www.twitch.tv/phoenixsclive
Is the 14th for me
Yesir
Ikr
No its not 13 its 14th
@@boredreindeer5602 me too
I absolutely despise that subreddit moderation, it's as powertripping as Mojang with the chat reporting bs.
r/Minecraft mods on their way to remove any post that made the mistake to even vaguely mention a different Minecraft subreddit
Saw that on reddit days ago can't believe it got removed
@Queen Elizabeth 🅥 WHY. DO. YOU. HAVE. TO. RUIN. EVERY. SINGLE. COMMENT. IN. THIS. VIDEO.
He said "If you want to learn more." He's not selling or pushing anything, so does that even count as advertising?
Technically you could interpret it as advertisement.
In the eyes of motherfuckers like TheRealWormbo etc. it counts
@@benrex7775 Technically me stating my name could be interpreted as me selfadvertising myself as someone who is important enough to be known. It's just rubbish, if this pushed the boundries, just tell the person to not say that again, instead of going straight nuclear.
@@lpfan4491 As someone who was never on reddit I was surprised at how miniscule of a reason they used to block a completely non-controversial and very impressive video. Do they get payed for each ban or is it just that they get one off by showing their dominance?
I see posts that mentions server names like hypixel unremoved, but not the ip.
The internet is incredible. It's crazy how fast and how much I can get to hate one person I didn't even know existed. Truly astonishing, r/Minecraft mod (or mods)
No one ever said you had to be smart or likeable to be a reddit mod, in fact it's pretty much the opposite.
I cant understand how someone can take a look at this and say "Yep the whole purpose was to advertise" this is the most moderator thing a moderator can do.
Reddit mods stop power tripping for 10 minutes challenge (Impossible)
Certified 'fr ong' moment
Power tripping. Exactly what it was. There was no legit reason for this to have happen. The inclusion of the server name was very obviously just to give credit. Maybe it's time for Reddit to go after overzealous moderators. Maybe once a post hits a certain number of likes, it shouldn't be possible for mods to remove it. Because a mod shouldn't be a god on the sub, they're merely a guide.
This is par for the course. I tried warning everyone about the draconian changes coming in 1.19 about 1.5 years before they arrived, but the mods took down my post with extreme prejudice and permabanned me from the reddit. They have a hard-on for silencing others - stereotypical powertripping mods.
the rule should be anything that EXPLICITLY advertises a server, not anything that MENTIONS a server for credit and stuff
Starting to think the mods straight up hate the player base
Just like Microsoft, only the mods are more open about it.
As a minecraft artist that makes 3D models usually styled after vanilla and with an occasional weird thing like the time I made the buff axolotl! I can absolutely agree with no doubt that this subreddit is moderated in the worst possible way, posts that took ages to make from me and my fellow artist friends have been removed for the dumbest things over and over and over and over again! Apparently even minecraft dev posts have been removed a few times as well! I cannot believe how bad that subreddit is managed even though I have been one of it’s victims times and times again!
Actual Minecraft devs getting their posts removed on r/Minecraft...? :V
Damn, that's hilarious and pathetic at the same time.
@@crowdemon_archives
Of the Irony
mojang really needs to step in here... has anyone seen or heard from notch?
gamers are in desperate need
@@jhonviel7381 Notch hasn't been involved in the development of Minecraft since 2014
Once i posted a video on r/minecraft of me actually playing minecraft on a school computer. (I booted from an operating system with minecraft installed on it, that was itself installed into a usb drive). It took me like a week of all of my free time being used on this project for it to be banned for being low effort XD
That mod should be kicked from the team for stupidity.
Their decision to remove that post on a technicality is very telling if you ask me. It shows that the moderator(s) in question have never, and likely will never, put their minds to something creative and fantastical like that. They're all too happy to just sit behind the screen and bully the people who try to share their greater accomplishments.
I was really hoping that you would make this video. Hopefully this project will get famous quickly. Sammyuri has made a revolutionary masterpiece.
shit like this is why i don't use reddit. i got permabanned from r/epilepsy for asking about symptoms, and then permabanned from the website for asking to talk to a different moderator in the ban chat.
Completely agree with the r/Minecraft moderation. They straight up don't even allow content creators to post there anymore. They got so fed up with me posting my content (just so an extra audience could enjoy it, without any watermarks), that they created a new rule saying that if you are a content creator, and your Reddit account uses the same name as your main platform, you're banned from posting. I've accepted that the mods there just don't want good, high effort video content posted there anymore. It sucks.
I can't find that rule, can you link me to it?
The issue with Reddit is that some (not all) mods are incredibly power hungry and will do anything to gain that power trip. This mostly applies to mods that moderate a large quantity of servers at once, moreso as a job than a hobby and something they genuinely care about.
That’s just the nature of power, like with police , offer power over others to people with no qualifications and you’ll get a large amount of narcissistic tyrants and only a hand full of good guys. I’d say ur sadly in the minority. Hope many of ur mods get banned bc I like the idea of r/Minecraft and how it was back in the days but they posts on there nowadays are really only copycats of the same old posts without any references and I always wonder how such low effort content can even get 1 karma
No o that is all of reddit after all the reddit mods banned the good reddit mods
Seriously what do these degenerate power-mods gain from removing posts but hate. Is it because they face no repercussions?
@@pfizerpricehike9747 Given your subsequent explanation, your analogy of using the police was a terrible choice in my opinion. There simply isn't "a large amount of narcissistic tyrants" with "no qualifications" and only a "hand full of good guys" when it comes to the police, that is factually wrong. There is a near balance just like with everyone else in life, there's good people and bad people, there isn't significantly more of one or the other.
Something that's commonly said is that "Laws should be applied not in letter, but in spirit", and that is so true. Because CONTEXT is what matters.
Yeah, it's like if someone rips your clothes from your body forcefully and the police starts shooting you because of indecent exposure. It's just absurd.
@@lpfan4491 it's almost like these people have no emotional and mental maturity, any inkling of wisdom, or critical thinking abilities.
This reminds me of the time that a post got removed for pointing out that oak samplings look like Iceland…. That’s literally it.
Yup i stopped posting stuff on there for this exact reason. There is also no debating it cuz the mods are intent on their own justice. Ive kinda had the same problems with the hermitcraft reddit as well, where i was just trying to help the community by zipping some screenshots of X his multi item sorter filters, and i was accused of "stealing content". Some mods on reddit really are just power hungry
I was in a server once and saw a guy building a computer in Minecraft, very similar to this. I asked him why, and he told me that it was because he was going to be building a computer completely from scratch irl, and Minecraft was an easy way to visualize what he wanted.
Holy moly. What a purpose of minecrafting right there
Genuinely wtf does that even entail. Why would he make his own cpu and all that. I don't understand
@@lalosalamanca3814 I asked the same exact thing. He said to prove a point. He’s doing it out of spite because some companies are very anti right to repair. I could never have the patience 😂
I highly doubt that.
Years later: "This is TempleOS, an operating system for communicating with God. The screen resolution is 640x480 with 16 colors, to keep it simple so kids can use it."
Welcome back to Whose Subreddit is r/Minecraft Anyway, where everything's removable and the reasons don't matter.
I had a post get removed as well, about a year ago. It was just a joke video that I actually put a little bit of effort into, but there was no point in it being removed.
We now live in an age where progress and achievement are considered "toxic" and "harmful"
Some people want an unnatural flatness to the universe, where existence is a homogeneous gray flat sheet. Nothing more.
The mods on r/minecraft are ridiculous! I've had the top post on the subreddit twice, both with thousands of upvotes so it was obviously very popular with the community. One was a comedic moment from an SMP server I was on that was well edited and I left a link to the full video in the comments which broke self promotion rule, which is fair enough but rather than removing the comment, they removed the post. The other one was a post showing Feinberg getting the first sub-3 hour AA speedrun and had like 9k upvotes before getting removed for some nonsensical reason about being about a Minecraft creator rather than the game itself... So silly.
WAIT, you mentioned having a legal background, and your name is Pheonix- are you, a star defense lawyer?
Ace attorney theme plays.
well, he DID get disbarred 3 years ago, guess we'll have to wait for four years to finally see him back in action
Credits and advertising are similar but the intent is different. In the case of this post mentioning the server was a Credit. It was informing the uninformed that the creator used a tool to accomplish their project. It would be like saying "I used a hammer to build this"
An advertisement is trying to draw attention to something so that it is used/bought. The intention is to get others to use/buy a product/services over others as the fore front of the purpose. It would be like saying "Brand X Hammer is better than other hammers and that's why I used it for this project"
Phoenix went all Wright at the end there
AH I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE
I totally agree, I got banned permanently from r/minecraft after posting a secret redstone door tutorial, and they just said "we've warned you before" blah blah blah and refused to elaborate
This is what happens when an entire generation of people are taught *what* to think, not *how* to think.
The way they take down posts has always been ridiculous, ive had 2 youtube videos down showcasing something new and the reasons were advertising a media channel, like what do i do? just take a photo?
I completely agree with your reasoning for the rule being applied in ridiculous ways. I was permanently banned without warning on r/TwoXChromosomes because in the comments, I posted my thoughts on the topic that OP had posted about, more or less agreeing with what OP was saying. A man had done something pretty disturbing while in bed with her against her consent after she had met him two hours previously, and said this was something she would never do again. I added that it is dangerous for any person to be intimate with any person they meet the same day as things like this can happen, and I wished people's safety. My post was removed and I was banned because supposedly this broke the first rule which was being disrespectful. I had apparently been disrespectful by agreeing with the OP and compounding the advice, because according to the mod I dealt with, I was not specifically asked for advice so I should not give it. However, a vast number of women on the thread posted similar advice and were completely fine, which I pointed out. I cannot message the mods for a month now.
TL;DR Reddit mods are stupid
it's the anonymity.
they know that they can do whatever the fuck they want, and they'll never face repercussions for it.
an example of this is the "tankie mod takeovers" on leftist reddit, wherein mao apologists, putin apologists, and stalin apologists among others take over the mod teams of leftist subreddits, and then post CCP propaganda on literally the ANNIVERSARY of tieniman square and then ban everyone who calls them out for "being a liberal"
seriously garbage. ruining decent communities with their genocide apologia, and then not even getting banned for it.
and the subreddits that speak out get mass-reported for "harassment" until they literally cannot put server links in anywhere.
@@deathshop2172 This is frighteningly accurate. Twitter is full of over sensitive people, Reddit is full of power hungry hypocrites.
you disgusting mansplaining pos
Remember when people say that social media was destroying society?
@@Hue_Sam : That is why social media is best used for educational influencers, hobbies, or niche communities.
I really appreciate this video. Both me and Craftymasterman made videos about this hoping it would help raise awareness to these types of situations, alas we don't have the same scale of audience as you do. Thank you for being a genuine person, this is why I watch you, not just for the memes but for your sincerity. Sammyuri deserved more for his work.
This is up there with that Reddit mod condescendingly taking a Nintendo shop code as some sort of trophy angering everyone. This only cements the fact that moderators have a chunk of “letter of the law” people who think this is an actual job
A little late, but I remember people begging r/Minecraft mods to not remove the post regarding Technoblade on the day the video was posted, as it goes against rules. So dystopian.
Imagine spending what was probably months on this project, you test it, remove many of the bugs, and post you magnum opus onto r\Minecraft, only to have it removed by a moderate and never told why.
lesson learned everyone
never show your creativity on r/Minecraft
@Queen Elizabeth 🅥 Finally it’s your family bro!
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So true
I make note block songs and I posted one of my videos to r/Minecraft, people were really liking it and then it got taken down for “self-promotion” because one of the signs in the intro happened to have my name on it. I feel like the moderators there have nothing better to do than to catch people with really cool and creative content on a technicality and remove their posts.
I had made a post of a video on mc reddit of a video on a certain server, linked that server in the description of the yt video. Got removed
Not gonna lie, but you continue to surprise and amaze me, Phoenix. What a salient and well articulated point. Thank you for supporting small creators!
@Adolfizzz0 Why are you posting this everywhere?
Man. The r/Minecraft mod situation got so bad that a channel with 2 million subs had to step up and say something.
Moderators of r/Minecraft, think about what you're doing to your community.
You are supposed to allow people to showcase their work, and they are allowed to credit themselves. They should also be allowed to express questions that they have about the game, and recieve helpful answers from generous members of your community.
This is your responsibility.
Do your job properly.
I tried posting literally just a picture of a lightsaber I created in Minecraft and it was removed for "inappropriate content", DID THEY EVEN LOOK AT THE PICTURE?
Thank you for speaking up about it! SO MANY people have suffered from the ridiculous removals by r/minecraft mods. And they are already calling you “dogshit” outside that post. It takes courage to call them out and face their attacks.
Next step they gonna sue for copyright infringement of Minecraft™®©.