Never Buy a Used Car from the Dealership
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- Never Buy a Used Car from the Dealership, DIY and car review with Scotty Kilmer. How to buy a used car. The best place to buy a used car. Car dealership ripoff. Where to buy a used car. The truth about car dealerships. Car dealership scams. Used car buying tips from dealer. Should I buy a car at the dealership? Car Advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 50 years.
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Those 4 people who disliked are used car salesmen hahahaha
I bought my Nissan at a Nissan dealership,not a used car dealership.
@@4gauge10 where you bought it isnt the issue..... Nissan is the issue. (see scottys other videos)
Hey Scotty, what was that book you mentioned in your last video? The one about a biography of a WW2 Tiger tank commander? Thanks.
Dealers work together to drive up the price of cars. One dealer takes in a trade and he lists it for a ridiculously high price and then another dealer takes in a similar model and then he compares what's listed and then may go even higher or maybe 100 bucks less. So what you have is wealthy dealership owners creating a market, they can afford to put a huge price on their car and then wait. It's almost a form of price fixing.
If you ring up a private seller always start by saying "I'm calling about the car you have for sale". If they say "which car?" They are a dealer in disguise or flipping cars.
Also is always better when they are the original owner.
That's from Top Gear UK from around 1996.
I've been using this tip, thanks!
Not necessarily. I have sold two of my cars at the same time. But of course there are guys in disguise as private sellers.
it does not matter. because you should know the price already before calling
When someone with money goes up against someone with experience, the one with experience gets the money and the one with money gets an experience.
Lol
hehe..i get the money and get the experience
Lol
I love new experiences.
Aram Fingal So what you’re saying is I need money?
So don't buy from a dealer, don't buy a rental, don't buy from CarMax. Only buy a used Toyota. Got it.
Now you're catching on
or a manual Honda.
@suny123boy1 Funny you should say that I drive an automatic Honda Fit, but I have 3 friends who both drive manual Honda Fits
Right
@@peterthooft3823 and you wake up every morning and punch yourself in the face knowing your driving to work in a Fit? Was your previous car a Yugo? At least the Fit is a well made Honda, but please its fing ugly!
We're just fortunate to have an HONEST mechanic on TH-cam. Scotty, please never change, you're great.
Thanks for making my car searching adventure 100 times more stressful.
Feel the same way
Getting stuck with a lemon would be even more stressful. If anything he's saving your 🍑
Yeah, look out for pre-owned cars at dealerships - i bought a 4 y.o. car with low millage there, but it turned out the left door sill was bent and full of filler. It looked ok when i bought it, all the windows were made in the same year, it ran fine, I've had people inspect it, too.
After the first winter, the noise from the outside became louder, and i could see moisture and ice on the inside(!) of the windows. A year later paint started chipping away at the bottom of the doors, since the door sills weren't properly aligned with them, and rocks coming from under the wheels did their part. So i had to paint the doors, though i still didn't know there was a bigger problem at the time. Finally only last year during service we noticed the filler peeling off under the car, and i knew it was in a crash. I had it repaired and painted properly with original parts, and then i sold it 3 months ago, at a modest price.
The new owners should be fine now, since i took care of the problem, and it was properly serviced and maintained, but the new car i bought in december was not pre-owned, and i hope i'll never have to go that way again.
Buy a Toyota
I'm dreading this.. car loan and finding a good car from a private owner...most dealers in NJ pass themselves off as private owners..this sucks
Been working at different dealerships for 15 years now. Scotty tells the truth
Do tell more.
Please continue...
He sure does man and he's the car dealership whisperer matter of fact a mechanic whisperer LOL😁😁😀😀👍👍👍👍👍👍 Yep it's lit🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Tell me more!
The internet is why i left the business after 8 years. Too much information. Cusumer's "great deal" (when dealer maked nearly no profit on the front) means the sales team makes fukall. Watch a 1000 dollar commission go to a 100 dollar one. The whole system needs to be restructured. Good salesman make money by pyschologilly manipulationing you. With profit margins getting slimmer and slimmer the salesman doesn't really have a choice if he wants to feed his family.
If you have a mechanic you can trust and a doctor you can trust then you have it made. So with you in our lives, Scotty, we are half way there! Thanks so much.
True
Right xD
My mechanic hates every single car I tell him I’m interested in. Only car he likes that are good are the ones he has.
Bro don't forget a GOOD 😁🖐 BARBER
dentist
It's hard to buy any cars from anywhere these days. They come from the factory jacked up, then the Dealer mess over you, then a personal owner covers up the lemon they bought. can't trust nobody.
I got so lucky when I bought my Lexus from a private party. I spent a good amount too so I was super skeptical
Man I need a car as a everyday driver right now it sucks
@@mattgrele6318 what you do is you find what kind of vehicles are dependable then look for one of those used cars
@@donsolos that’s not always true. Highly depends on how the individual maintained that vehicle. I’ve bought Honda’s off of ppl that died on me months later
@@Alextheskater91 my Accord died after 5 months. Dude took terrible care of it
Buy a barely used car at a new car dealership on the last day of the month a few hours before closing. They will budge.
Tom Sharkey not true, just go in there, know the price you want to pay and don’t give a single damn about their offer. If they want to make money they will go down to your price
James T You have to know how to play the game which is what he is saying. Go in with the list price you’re solid on and make sure they don’t start jacking up the price with unnecessary crap. They get paid off commission after all.
Acvidently went on a last day... They had to fill their quota .. So drastically reduced the price
I love this comment 😂😂😂
Your instructions weren't clear and now I'm in Detroit in a bad neighborhood.....
"Certified preowned car". We certify someone used to own this car.
Mark 7's I drove a certified Nissan for 6 years with NO issues at all, traded up last year to Lexus
I drove a certified Dodge ram for 12 years, 8 of those years were problem free. After that it was 11 years old so I had to do some maintenance. I had it another 4 years until the engine blew.
Easy solution: never trust any dealer. Before you buy a used car, take it to somewhere to inspect it.
My certified pre owned silverado paint began to peel everywhere 4 months after purchase when I tried to trade it in it was revealed it had an accident reported which the dealer never disclosed and even said there was no accidents on it
Certified is more likely to be good, but don't skimp having it inspected by your mechanic before buying. Chat groups are full of owners who bought certified to find major problems that should have been caught.
Okay, I think I’m just gonna build my own car now
His next video: "top 5 reasons not to build your own car"
Ha ha
Hahahaha
Just make sure the Carfax says its an original supra and you'll get good money for it
LoL :)
The strangest red flag I heard was when someone at the dealership offered to bring the price down on an $8,500 car to $5,000
Oh watch though, they charge you tax on the higher amount. Seen it.
@@itsame3379 what benefit would the car lot receive from doing that? Lol
@@dyyylllaannn I should have phrased that "charge you". They "charge you" the tax on the list price even though you're getting the car for the sale price. Then tell the state you paid the sale price and keep any tax over what they have to tell the state about. Example, the price of the car was $8600 "marked down" to $8000 then they have all the figures and if you figure the sales tax it's on the $8600. I asked why and he said "oh that's how all dealerships do it." ??Illegal?? Ummm bye-bye
Anywho, they charge the buyer so many fees. One guy I know, wanted to trade in his car. The dealership "gave him" $2000 for his car but then in the figuring raised the price of the car he was buying by $2000. He walked out. Nope see ya!
Did you check if it had an engine
Got a used cadilac..wanted $9999 after negotiating got it for 5k
This guy has so much knowledge, that his hair looks like an open book.
Zito Sonic 😂😂😂
Zito Sonic 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that’s hilarious. Thank you for the good laugh.
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Man😂🤣
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Don't buy a repossessed car either. If they haven't been keeping up on the payments then you know they haven't been keeping up with the maintenance.
Jose Garcia Yup. I almost bought a repoed 1998 Infiniti I30 a few years ago. It seemed like a nice car from the test drive but I demanded a pre purchase inspection and the place I took it to said not to buy it. It had a lot of issues.
I bought 2 repo in the last 4 months, high anxiety going for pickup, it worked out.
only problem was they use forklifts that can nick the tranny pan!
@Radiation Refugee It seems like those leased cars are treated just as bad as rental cars.
Radiation Refugee They really are a good idea. It’s easy to think that you’ve found a nice car on a test drive but you may not notice any big issues on a test drive.
Radiation Refugee Lease cars, rental cars, repos, and people that trade a lot beat their cars since they know they’re getting rid of it soon.
When buying used.. dont matter where you buy, you should take the vehicle to a mechanic you trust for a pre purchase inspection. If the dealership or private party seller won't allow it, dont bother.
If it's a private sale and it's not registered what do you do? Pay for a tow? Maybe the mechanic will let you use his repair plate?
Seems unreasonable for a dealer to let you take inventory that isn’t paid for. Most give you a few days to return your used car if not satisfied. Seems more reasonable that way
@@ACommenterOnTH-cam you dont take the vehicle for inspection to the place that's selling you it. You take the. Vehicle to someone you trust outside of the people selling it to you
@@ACommenterOnTH-cam chill bruh lol
@@Fig909 well thats different but I have not encountered one dealer other than Carmax that has a return policy, and so, with that said, it goes for a pre-purchase inspection or I'm not buying it.
After my corolla is paid off, I was gonna upgrade to a new car. That's when I came across Dave Ramsey videos and now I don't want to buy a new car. Next, I planned to buy a pre-owned VW Tiguan and then I came across Scotty Kilmer's videos. Both these fine gentlemen are party poopers but they're knocking sense into me and helping me make better financial decisions.
I have a paid off Camry and follow DR as well. They really slap sense into you although I do want a new A6 🙁
Well DR is a great entrepreneur and stuff, but I don't get one thing.
The used cars aren't that much cheaper anymore. I was shopping around for a simple Chevy in Calgary and you need at least 15-17k to buy a decent one not with 200k km on them.
But at the same time you can buy a new Chevy Spark for the same amount of money or nissan versa.
Yes, new cars do depreciate in value but if you plan to use them for 6-8 years it's not a big deal.
And with a used car you can be never sure either. So you pay less (or same) but risk more...
@@David_Liu93 it's true... Just bought used Impreza when the new is only a few thousand difference. Why buy used anymore?
Dave is so out of touch, it might works pre pandemic if you're lucky not getting a vehicle breaks down within the next two weeks after the purchase, not with a current 50% mark up
@@jklsdf5885exactly. Dudes running off a world that doesn’t exist anymore
Imagine being a car dealer and you see Scotty coming in your shop😂
Do you mean “imagine”?
@@happycouple2976 yes, that was an error
😂
Tell him every car he points out is already sold 🤣
@@happycouple2976 do you have the strong need to correct everyone? getta lyfe
love this guy..he's a mad scientist, engineer, mechanic..who also knows the business game, speaks the truth on the technical & money aspects, with a bit of humor.
it's perfect for the way my mind works, constantly analyzing & reverse engineering every subject, every decision, but that humor keeps me sane & makes it all fun.
I needa take this guy with me when I go car shopping fr 😭I’ll pay him for his time too
I tell the guys that give me all the car-buying game that they should go into business for themselves helping people to buy cars or accompanying them to shops. Ik I would pay to have an experienced person with me
Definitely
@@addictiveillusions5667 my friend makes good money doing this. He's a car broker. He finds whatever car you're looking for negotiates the price gets the contract done then delivers the car to you. He charges 500 flat fee.. even with the fee its lower than what the typical person could get and you don't have the stress of shopping
I'm sure you can potentially have Scotty come with you, but he is a Millionaire and you may have to pay a pretty Penny for him to join :D
@@BeyondChange i dont think he isa millionare and even is he was he would prob take 100 bucks an hour or less happily
My youngest son was the used car tech at a couple of dealerships. He hated it, the screw jobs he saw them do was ridiculous. He inspected the cars, and then gave them a list of what needed repaired. Shocker, they rarely fixed what he suggested. He HATED working at dealerships, he was to honest, lol. He ended up going to work on big rigs. He's now the regional maintenance manager for a truckline.
I work at a car dealership (one of the least greasy scam ones) and it's still pretty bad. I can assure you that this is 100% accurate.
Really you're generalizing all.
Thanks.
thanks for being real.
Where do you recommend I buy
@@ashleechan22 private party, find a Honda or Toyota. I just purchased my Lexus private party and couldn’t be happier. That same lexus at the dealer was going for $10-12k. Got it from a private party for $7500
We must protect this guy at all costs!!!
Itachi Uchiha agreed. We should be his security guards full time
The man is in Texas. I'm sure he's well armed. 2nd amendment is the cornerstone of the U.S. Constitution here.
Art vandelay!!😍
He and RBG!
Why tf does he need protection
As a former employee at a car dealership. SCOTTY you are 100 % correct of what you share. I no longer work there due to the immense dishonesty towards customers.
So buying like used new low miles is bad then too.? Why.
That’s why I couldn’t work at a car dealer.
Yeah right you probably sucked and got fired
@@paultannerwork lol you only wish it went that way. You must be one of those dishonest car dealer judging by your reply.
@@michaelclarke4629 what do you do now that is so honorable
I sold cars, on and off, for about 5 years. I just want to say you are Spot On. Always buy a used car from a private party with the absolute condition that you take it to your mechanic ( seller can come along if they want), where you can pay to have that car gone through meticulously. You will most likely, save thousands and be far happier than at a car dealer.
I’ve bought numerous one year old certified used Hondas with less than 10k miles. Never had a problem
@@teeduck cool story bro.
@@teeduck How come the used cars in general or more expensive than a new car's MSRP?
Do you have the mechanic check it before you pay for the car?
I remember decades back I was selling a car and someone inquired asking if he can take the car to his mechanic to check it out.
I didn't agree. Told him he had to bring the mechanic here.
He was right not to trust any seller, but trust is a two way street. Why should I let a complete stranger take my car without paying for it?
Sure I could go with him but why should I take 2-3 hours out of my time with what may be a no-sale? Better to wait for the next buyer, especially as my car was priced to sell.
No seller is going to be following you to a mechanic to spend hours inspecting the car when there’s line of people behind you ready to buy. I have to take time out of my from work to sell my pos. I’ll just sell it to the second person in line
Scott looks like if Ozzy Osborne had a mechanic career instead of music
🤣🤣🤣 OMG!!
LMAO😄🤣
diary of a mechanicman
Except we can clearly understand Scotty!
Factsssss
I bought my first car - used - at a dealership. A wonderful Audi 90, 5 years old. In good shape and in fact, there were only little costs in the next two years at the mechanic. I loved the car.
I always had noticed some strange behaviour of the car, when getting into some tricky corners. A little oversteering, even at relatively slow speeds. I then thought it was my fault, as I was not an experienced driver and that car was just too much car for me to handle properly.
Two years of loving the car, and then - one night - I didn't see a curve coming. The car didn't even react to try to take it. It lost the rear with the first touch of steering, it went on two wheels, then flipped over and I am thankful to the designers of the car and my personal luck, and all angels... because I came out of the wreck alive.
It took me years to overcome the accident. I felt so guilty, that I wouldn't drive another car again.
Some weeks ago I was invited to a meeting, where I had the chance to connect to a database of wrecked vehicles, and... I just wanted to know what had happened to my beloved first and last car. I found it in the records, found out that it was compacted and then shipped to Italy, from there to many other ports and ... probably it ended up in China.
When I reached that point, I felt overwhelmed again by the guilty feeling, weakening me again, making me sad. So I leaned back and was about to leave the interface, when I catched something on the screen, that called my attention.
It was the historical part of my car before I bought it. And... it was a horror story.
Long story short. I bought a car, whose rear end had been smashed in two accidents. No wonder that the car could barely take certain, stiffer angled curves at relatively modest speeds. It was completely out of balance.
I wished I had known you before I bought that wonderful car. I wouldn't have suffered the last 15 years.
Yeah, I know it sounds stupid, but I trusted the dealer. That nearly killed me.
I loved driving. I want to drive again. Driving is one of those things that the elite hasn't been able to take away from us yet. Driving is special, a kind of meditation and cure (not always, I know). Time to be alone and somehow connected to the car.
On the other hand, that car saved my life, not only because of its safety design, but also later. I started to walk a lot, ride bicycles... and have overcome serious health problems because I am relatively fit.
Sorry for all that writing. It just popped out, hope I didn't offend, bore or insult anyone with my two cents.
Kind regards,
M.
Furlock Furli That's a harrowing story. I had no idea vehicles get passed around to that extent. Thanks for sharing.
Yes!! Forget what they are called. It's like a salvage title. They fix n fix and sell. Most insurance companies wont even cover. So now u have a car u bought n no one will insure. Messed up. So glad u made it out of it ok. I'm always looking at the engine, the undercarriage. Where it was parked for leaks. How many miles and how many drivers. Very important. A car with 30/40k miles is most likely 1 owner leased vehicle. Anything over 60, 2 drivers u have to be concerned how vehicle was driven. And also if it's used as a local vehicle (more wear n tear) or a hwy vehicle. I always hear hwy is better bc it keeps everything flowing and car not doing as much sitting 🙂
Furlock Furli
What site did you use to track car history?
Gawd dam essay
scotty u should dress up in disguise and go into dealerships knowing exactly whats wrong with the vehicle and see what happens
@kevin brilz would love to see that!!!
That'll be dope
ya but he never seems to reply to comments @@robinnelson18
This would get so many views!
YES I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT!
I've been burned on buying a used car from a private individual too. It's been my experience that if someone is selling their car, there's usually something wrong with it that cost more than it's worth to fix it so the individual sells it to the unfortunate unsuspecting new owner!
My biggest problem that I run into when buying vehicles, is private sellers want just as much as dealers nowadays. We’re looking for a 3 row SUV now (granted, those are a little tougher) and private ones that are salvaged are only 2-3k less than ones from the dealer that are guaranteed with some sort of warranty.
where do you look?
True
Warranty from a used car dealer is like a promise from the government.
@bringerofrain5732 No, you don't.
I keep running into scammers that pose as individual car owners.
He's right about the "extended warranty" its all just pure profit for the company as they will just deny your claims.
Not always. I bought an extended warranty on a Accord that had 83k miles for $1600 and a year later, the transmission went out. It was $3k to fix. So it really only cost me half.
Yeah and I had an extended warranty on my dodge ram ...the transmission went on it and they proceeded to replace it with a USED transmission ! Never again ...
Extended warranty = insurance with stipulations that can essentially deem any repair as "normal wear and tear" not covered. Most manufacturer defects are already covered by government recalls.
I’ve had many types of repairs done & not once have I ever gotten my money’s worth out of an extended warranty. The average person would probably have a better chance of winning the lottery than getting their money back from one of these scams.
That's not always true. I bought a used 2010 Santa Fe. My extended warranty already paid for a new alternator, a rental while it was fixed, a tow, a new control arm, and a driver door latch. I got the "Bumper to bumper" one, there's no time limit, only up to 180K Km. Paid 2500 CAD for it, and I'm on 156K Km right now (bought with 96K Km). So for me, it wasn't worth it unless something really bad will happen very soon (Total paid by the warranty was 1400 CAD), but if I had a European/American car than I'm pretty sure I would have broken even on the 2nd or 3rd year.
“ Who certified it ?? They certified it themselves !!! “!😂😂😂
They do it on behalf of the manufacturer. The warranty is direct from the manufacturer, so unless you absolutely abuse the car and/or never maintain it, they'll almost certainly take care of you.
@@justinluttrell1769
I can vouch for that
@A Calvillo He may be, but it's 100% FACTS.
I wish I could give myself my degree too!
Wow. This guy is GREAT. How refreshing to get such honest, straightforward professional opinions. Most people are too worried about pissing off people with more power than them so they don't reveal what they know. We need more people like Scotty in this world.
I had a reputable, certified mechanic check out a used car, he said it was in fine condition, alternator, fuel pump, and door locks went out in less than 30 days, by the time I dumped that car every red light in the dash was on, buying a used car is ALWAYS a risk
what brand car was that and mileage?
Those are not things that any one can really gauge when it will go out. Mechanics are magical beings. Learn something about cars it will help you later on.
Yeah honestly say it was a Nissan with 140. 000miles. It could run fine and next day things start breaking.... I don't know how a mechanic would be able to tell that
A reputable mechanic told you it was a good car ? Mmmmm that's a first. Don't know what went wrong there.
Nobody knows if alternator will failed in a week ,they only see what's bad at the moment
I wonder if Scottys neighbors know how famous he is.
Almost certainly
Why do you think he moved?
@@MrPAULONEAL cause his neighbors wife quit putting out, duh
He doesn't have a neighbor anymore
4am Sunday morning with the window open ... "LEMME TELL YOU ABOUT USED CAR DEALERS"
CarFax goes by if the people report it on Insurance... If they pay out of pocket to fix it, it doesn't go on CarFax...
There is a reason why they have a 🦊 fox for their mascot...
Our previous vehicle was a 2016 Mazda 6. We got sideswiped by a tractor trailer. The trucking company was self insured and because of that the repairs & the accident was not reported to Carfax.
General Motors doesn’t report issues into carfax. So any GM you would buy may have been in the shop 300 times for lemon or warranty repair work, but that will never be in the carfax..
You a wrong, Carfax is not only reported by insurance. I can guarantee every oil change you paid for at a auto shop will be on your car's carfax.
PainBlame Not really. Some shops don’t use CarFax
I have worked on my own cars for years.. i'm two years younger than Scotty... I have replaced engines, transmissions and etc. Not once have I reported anything to to CarFax.I don't know if there is a law that requires to report anything ? Maybe there is if your a dealership or repair shop?
I know maybe CarFax gives a dealership or repair shop a KICKBACK? Wait a minute maybe I just came up with an idea..... shuuuuu !
In the area I live, private sellers are asking just as much as used car dealers, and just like with dealerships you have no idea what you’re really getting.
Thank you. I’m tied of hearing and seeing *Buy from a private party/seller* as if they’re all honest sellers; but many of them can be just as shady as a car salesman
Yes a private party advertised a civic as runs and drives like new. The car had a head gasket leak, was in a wreck previously, and the driver side door lock didn’t work. And… he was asking dealership prices. Lots of scams out there
Trust nobody or nothing everybody is out to take advantage of you
@seguiriya1 good point 😂😂😂
I dont even trust myself.
😁 that's true only to an extent. Most people are good, and not trying to rip you off. Even the worst dealerships probably have a line they draw.
@seguiriya1 ah ah ahah that's a good one
@@nengthao5618 Yup....the man in the mirror will SCREW you over....no question!👺
*me after buying a used car from a dealership 2 days ago* 👁🕳👁
😂😂🤣🤣
@SuperPunch76 very good. No issues apart from headlight and nail in tyre which aren’t the dealers fault😂
@@shelboyyy what brand is it
@@theislamicgambit4476 Renault Megane
@@shelboyyy good car but you should take care of it change your oil regularly and don't drive too fast
Renaults are known to be cities cars
Best quote ever! “You know where you’re going to find deals? NOT AT A DEALERSHIP!”
I always love scotties little pictures he puts on the videos 😂😂😂😂😂
Spent $900 on a car on Craigslist. Still driving it 3 years later.
ooooooooonnnnnnn craaaaaaaaaiggggggssssssslisssssst! - Weird Al
I bought my 1999 Honda accord lx on craigslist. 1600, Took it to the Honda dealership and had about $2000 worth preventative maintenance on it. Been driving it now for 4 years. I've had a few ups and downs with it but the car is still driving very nice. It's only got a 193,000 on it right now.
Same here I bought a 02 aurora from Craigslist been driving it for 4 years
Bought my '96 Buick for $700 dollars four years ago, still running like a champ. Only issue I've had was a cracked head gasket a few months ago.
$350 for a 99 Ford Taurus in 05 still runs but beat up.... Just got a Kia 6months ago ENGINE BLEW 🤪
Car dealerships aren't in the car business...
They're in the *financing* business
Yeah pretty much
exactly
Just like McDonald's isn't in the hamburger business, they are in the real estate business.
They aren't they only ones. Could be why so many live paycheck to paycheck :(
Dealerships don’t see the money that’s being financed, that’s the banks you have a loan with.
But buying a car from someone in the street makes me feel like it’s broken and they don’t wanna fix it specially when they have a list of replaced parts 😂
Liberty or Death so true my 2nd vehicle was a Chrysler 300 (06) got it from a old middle class Italian who was the only owner, It almost still smelt like the dealership lol too this day I wish I still had it
that's what I think too
Liberty or Death This is extremely true. My dad got a 350Z from an elderly lady who I assume just wanted the cash for it. The car was completely unmolested unlike the 97% of the 350Zs sitting up on FB marketplace.
About 15 years ago, my pops bought a 93 crown vic, the high end model with leather interior and electronic dashboard etc, about 80k milesfor like $1600 from an older lady.. my brother drove it and so did I, still have it actually but I don’t drive it because the brake light comes on and I don’t wanna die yet
@Liberty or Death thing is old people dont do any maintenance 99% of the time and just get in drive get out, my great grandma had a Tempest with like 90,000 KM on it i got it when i was a teenager but i sold it for 400$ because it was totally rusted out frame was shot. She did all the proper oil changes and stuff but she parked it in a Garage so all that salt just ate it every time it melted in there
Best thing to do is Low Mileage or buying it off an actual mechanic
Can't sue CarFax: they don't claim to be accurate, and they don't offer any guarantee. Just don't trust them at all!
Or when the car the salesperson said they'd sell for $1500 (which did seem too good to be true) went up to $2500, and they tried to write it up for $3500 before I walked.
Learned so much I never knew meow....it looks as though I Wised up
Only thing it's useful for is seeing how long the garage has had the car for. Dealer telling me they can't budge on price, getting lots of interest & it's just arrived. Uh you did the history check 3 months a go dude! In UK it shows on Autotrader when it was done :)
True my car fax was clean....I had a car that had $20,000 total pay out...that was a bad wreck
Problem is, you can be scammed by a dealership so as from a private seller.
@@j_freed Sure, but this doesn't change things so much unfortunately. Let's abandon this myht you're gonna make a great deal only with private sellers. It's a 50-50 percent chance.
Daniele D'Accardi I agree because private sellers will lie just to get rid of the car.
Scammed by a private seller, well kinda. Bought a 2004 Accord for $800 bucks, $700 less than asking. Couldn’t get it out of the city I bought it from, back home. Ha. I’ve put ~10k on in a year, having to repair small things along the way. I love the car but the lady was a shitty person. It’s not always the best route & people aren’t always honest.
@@MrDanrock82 just usually cheaper
@@garlicgirl3149 Just usually cheaper what?
Imagining Scottie on a date, moving his hands all over the place while introducing himself. His knowledge of cars is unmatched.
A month ago I watched his vid about not buying new cars. Now not buying used cars either. I guess Im just gonna buy a scooter lol
He is about to make a vid about not buying used or new scooters
😂😂😂😂
This whole video makes a few points but don't think private is the way to go. Anyone trying to sell thier car private, most likely is trying to charge top dollar. Or there is some wrong with it. Best thing is to see what reviews or people say about the dealership. You can't constantly screw people and not hear about it. And take it to a trusted mechanic to get looked at. Usually there are lemon laws or a few rules/guaranty with dealerships... Theres zero with some guy who thinks his worn car is almost worth what he paid. Carsoup, carguru, and sites like that at least give you market value and tell u if its a good deal or not. Up to you to tell if its messed up. This video could be don't trust anyone... You shouldn't. Mechanics are probably just as bad, worked on a girls car and they snapped off all the wear bars on the brake pads. So the next it'd be rotors and all that...
That scooter better be made by Toyota
Don’t buy scooters. Those scooter dealerships are ruthless!
When I moved to Puerto Rico I needed to buy a nice used car. I prefered a Toyota. A young professional was selling his- 2009 Toyota Yaris. It was in good shape. He wanted $9,000. I gave him $7,000 cash. 5 years have gone by. The best deal I've ever made.
I wished I could take you with me when looking for a used car.
Me too !!
Even pay him for his time to check cars with you.
scotty should do this for like 20 an hour
He would beat me up because I don't want to buy a Celica
Yeah having sold 4 cars on Craigslist, and purchased one you definitely have to do your diligence. Plus dealers have crept into that market too posing as private sellers.
tj joe instead of sending them to the auction and taking a loss. Dealerships finance a family member to run a off hand used car lot and send the auto that they couldn’t sell at the big name dealership there.
Exactly car flippers are piranha’s on CL! Be careful.
Sometimes buying private party is even worse than buying from a dealer. Lots of dealers screw people over, but there are just many private individuals selling cars that are more than happy to be dishonest with you and pawn off a car on you that has issues that they covered up. Buying private party does not guarantee that you’re getting a better vehicle. Often times, private party cars are even more neglected and poorly maintained than vehicles at dealerships.
this at least has not been even slightly true in my personal experience and with close friends and family. I have had only one good dealer experience which could have just been lucky but I've never been burned even once on a car or motorcycle from a private seller. I find that your average person is more honest than a used car dealership. On top of that, you're generally meeting the person at their private home and people are more afraid to screw you over when you have their personal address and phone number.
That’s why you have a mechanic check it before buying it
Kent you are 100% right and by law a dealership and not a buy here pay here a actual new and used car dealership has to do safety inspections on the vehicle if it has a lot of issues they are sent to the auction minor things we fix they check out brakes tires everything
@@michealfl4925I was sold an inspected vehicle from a dealer with the abs wire disconnected and a CRACKED frame we were going to take them to court but he refunded me what I paid for the car. An inspection doesn't mean much when they do the inspection in-house
thats why its best to buy from elderly person. Might not be color you want but they most likely will be more honest.
After nearly 20 years in the field as an Automotive Mechanical Breakdown Inspector, I can attest to every Scotty's word.
As a matter of fact, every effort must be made to stay away from stealerships except when buying a new vehicle since they hold monopoly.
I feel sorry for people who don't know much about cars - they are natural prey for all kinds of crooks...
That's why it's important for non-mechanics to watch videos like this!
I have 3-4K cdn. What should I get?
@@onemoretime734 Not many options. In fact, only one - Toyota Corolla. If can't find one, the next - distant - option is Honda Civic. My guess is you can find something feasible in the neighborhood of 2004-2007 with 150K. Give or take.
@@nofyfb123 would it be worth it to hold out two more weeks, then my budget goes to 4-5k. But the more I pay the more anxiety I have if that makes sense.
@@onemoretime734 Obviously, the more you can pay - the better chance you have to get a better/newer/lower mileage vehicle.
Also - based on what I read - used car prices are dropping so it's worth waiting. Or rather looking and waiting. Or waiting and looking.
All of the Used Car Lots want crazy reckless prices anymore. People should tell them where to go.
I've gotten a few used cars from dealerships that have been great at amazing deals. It all depends on if you stick to your guns or not.
Bought mine 5 years ago from a car dealer. Still going strong. No problems at all with my car. Just regular maintenance.
But, I also bought a car that is made to last. My car is on his list of cars that will last 300,000 miles. I'm at 220,000 and still going strong. Grand marquis. ❤
@@misheedawn3214 Those ARE good cars!
Buy Toyota from a reputable, one owner human being if you can find one. They are about as rare as an albino deer so good luck!
Once you find a great car lot don’t let go of them. I found one myself in the Seattle area and it is worth the hour + drive whenever it is time for a newer car. The last one was 2011 Camry bought for 90% of Book Value.
don't buy a new car, or a used car. only Toyota Corolla
@C.S.Allen that comment was a little AOC saying we need to invent something that hasnt been invented yet
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Realiablee!!
had the same one for 24 years....
Lol
This guy is so animated, I love it, totally engaged.
I've looked for used toyotas but used prices at dealers are just ridiculous.
I just got a Toyota CPO. Paid less than 60% of sticker price and it has 16k miles on it and a factory (not dealer) warranty, it is like new. I negotiated about 1100 off the price they said they don't like to negotiate on.
I knew they were still making at least 1,500-2k profit on the car though based on what they would have given the person for the trade. They have very little "reconditioning" expense on a car like that. Just a good cleaning and oil and a filter or two.
Same here. Toyotas are a double-edged sword in that regard. Yes, they're reliable, but in some markets they command too much money to make them good values on the used market.
Try good used Mazda or Fords u be just as happy.
We are now in the market for a good used corolla or camry and all im finding are overpriced used ones at dealers or private sellers trying to sell their rebuilt/restored ones. Or retired fleet vehicles from car rental places. Kind sucks they kept trying to sell me a Ford Fusion over the camry saying it's just as good or better than the camry. Smh
@@Frxstynah ummm the Ford Fusion hybrid or reg sedan IS just as good as Camry or better if better maintained. Where you been? Grab a Fusion 2.0L AWD fully inspected if ur smart.
Watching this really makes me want to build my own car, to avoid upcharges, and planned obsolescence.
I have been preparing to do something like that myself, naturally I can't build an engine, but hell, I can build the empty shell lol
CarFax ONLY WORKS when an accident has been reported. LMAO.
vhtriyok
And ALL dealers & lots of peeps know that. So if they have a $ “manageable” damage they don’t report it to the insurance company.
And it NEVER shows on CarFax !
Or if repaired by the individual or no claim made on insurance.
They only report on things reported to $40
@@828enigma6 bingo!
Car fax only works it the garage that works on the car actually reports it to car fax..
I watched so many of your videos before purchasing a second hand car. Finally bought a 2013 Honda civic from a private individual. Best decision ever!!! thanks
One of the most informative and indispensable channels on TH-cam when it comes to people who drive. I learned diesels dont have spark plugs , who knew , scotty knew lol.
The invaluable info found here shows over 2 decades of experience makes this man the
Car encyclopedia. Bless you my friend.
Has anyone else noticed that when Scotty is talking about a used car LOW ON OIL at about the 6:04 mark he says, "CertiFRIED.?"
Maybe he was fried
I bought my work car at used car dealerahip. And 200k miles later my Honda is still going strong.
I talked a used car dealer into taking me to the dealer auction so could pick from a large selection. I found what I wanted at a great price and paid the guy a commission. Worked out great!
Awesome!
Last year, when I went to a dealer and bought a used car.. (last time I bought a used car was over 2 decades ago so these hidden fee's were new to me.) I told them I wanted a $6000 car... end up picking a scion.. when we were at the desk and they told me the total.. I said I don't want those extra's just the car... They said it's already on and part of the price. I YELLED... YOU HAVE WASTED MY TIME.. I TOLD YOU I WANT TO SPEND 6K ON A CAR.. IF YOU KNEW THERE WAS 2K OF JUNK ALREADY ON THE CAR YOUR SALESPERSON SHOULD HAVE SHOWED ME the $4000 CARS AND TOLD ME THERE IS 2K MORE THEN THE PRICE ON THE WINDOW, I bought the Scion for the window price.
MMM mm should have bought a 1994 celica
You didn't fully read the story or don't follow what happened.
Mine wasn't so bad - except they added a lojack to it on their own and wanted to charge me for it. I was already committed to the sale and wasn't in a mental place to argue to I accepted the extra couple of hundred, but looking back I would have told them that that was on them, I had nothing to do with it, and I wouldn't be paying for it.
@x4prilsF00Lx you're right. If tax, title, and tags is a suprise he's either brain dead or the last car he bought was a model t ford before you had to register cars. If you have 6k you factor in tax and tags and look at cars for 4.5k to 5k. If you're expecting a salesman to do the math you should be doing then its your fault.
Does neogation work?
I wish I had an uncle or dad like you, buying a car is so scary..
Wtf I don’t even know where to go anymore 😓
MR Sam buy used cars off website or owners
same☹️ i wanted to buy me a car tomorrow
I used offerup
Look up used cars on craigslist and choose to search private seller cars only
MR Sam I’ve decided to keep my low mileage lease car, a 2016 Buick Encore with 29k miles.
These days whether you're buying from an individual or a dealer, it's a crap shoot.
CarFax may have started out to be a good thing but like anything else bad people get wise on tricking it.
Scotty Kilmer next week: Why you shouldn't buy a car
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You're a used car dealer huh?🤔
You sound hurt!😄
@@g.o.a.tjames3256 He's on to something. There is no shortage of comments here saying the same thing. Most of what is passed along in these is that it's all doom and gloom unless you keep a mechanic on retainer or can build your own car from scratch. :)
1yr later: why you shouldn't walk. Scotty: 🤚✌👋🤞👆👉👈🤙🤟✋🖖👌👆🤌👌🖖🖖
Fr tho, buses and bikes are much more economical.
340 dislikes, wow, must be car salesman that don't like Scotty Kilmer honesty and true...
I thumbed it down and I'm not a used car salesman. Scotty and his antiquated advice paints everyone out to be scum bags. Use some common sense and research Markey values of the car you want. Buying used from a dealership usually gets you a mechanical warranty (unless the car is stated "as is")...sure you can save a few hundred buying private.. But what if the trans is shot etc etc.
Although this is good advice and will become more and more relevant as people move away from dealerships when selling used vehicles (hopefully with online postings, etc), as long as you do things correctly, do you research, and are careful, you can find some decent used cars to buy from the dealership. Buying from a private owner is always preferred, but quite often you cant find the perfect car from a private owner, there are still more used car dealership listings then private owner listings.
So glad I found a mechanic I can trust like you Scotty. He even reminds me of you, trustworthy person who is about making the customer happy, and glad to pay him the profit he makes. Win, win, dealerships are a scourge all around on the consumer. Keep it up.
Just went through this with dealerships - they don't car what you say. They don't even care what THEY say. They'll be your friend, they'll be sunshine and if that does not work, they will be incredulous - "why would you question our price?!??!" If that does not work, they get quarrelsome, "you mean to tell me, that you don't want our car?" Mean, nice, indifferent....it makes no difference to them as long as you sign.
Had one flat out tell me, "we do not haggle, we give you our best price." Then, when I said no to the deal and got up to leave, they said, "wait, what price were you looking for?" Yeah, no haggle. Same with the next dealership, " here is the best we can do." Me: I understand, but that is not what I was looking for...have a nice day. "WAIT! Maybe I can talk my manager around...."
Bottom line: Have the solid number in your head - the one they have to match or no deal. Be ok with walking on a deal with no hard feelings and check out the vehicle before leaving the lot. I got what I wanted in the end, but it took lots of "no, thanks!" before I got there.
If you like the car, leave but give the dealer your phone number. You will definitely get a call with a better price. And if they don't, and the car sold, there will always be other cars.
Wegocgsgc Feather you’re right. It’s your right.
As someone who used to work in a Toyota dealership in Australia, I'd give the opposite advice in our market. First, 4 x the price?..well unless its a $200 car they want $800! The margins are not that huge especially after the dealer needs to fix cosmetic and mechanical issues (esp for what we call a Roadworthy certificate). Most people are pretty Savvy shoppers these days too. If they see a car advertised for $25,000, they will crunch them down to $23k, $22K or even $20K!.NO ONE pays sticker price - but that's Australia.
If there is a problem with the vehicle you have the dealer to fall back on. Here, cars MUST have a clear title in a dealership and if they are a repaired write off (I think it's called a salvage title i n the USA) that is easily checked through statutory authorities. I think the risks are much greater with private buying. They don't have to give any kind of warranty, they can disappear and if you don't do due diligence, you can buy something stolen, had major repairs or with finance lean on it.
Go to a MAIN DEALER, not a little 'bomb yard' and negotiate hard. Newer the better too. I like 3-5 years old where the car has lost 40-50% of the value but is ultra low mileage (that's what I do). I can also say from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE when we used to trade in or buy cars for the used car lot at the Toyota dealer I worked at, if the car had accident history or was dodgy in any way, we didn't want a BAR OF IT. Main franchise dealers usually keep the plum cars (that's cherry for my American friends) for themselves. Yes, they can make more money, but usually because it's a BETTER CAR..often one owner, full service history, no accidents and very clean. Dealers don't need or want people coming back and taking them to court! Besides the stress, it can jeopardise their franchise.
Private can be good if you know the person, like a family friend. You know they bought the car new, looked after it AND THEN YOU BUY IT, that can be great. Also would like to mention, You don't have to take dealer finance or buy their after market protection accessories they try and sell, just say "no!".
Ha ha ha someone is fair.
Pretty much same in ole USA altho a few grey areas more so. I dont buy used & don't buy Toyota an I'm always good.
Only common sense review on here. So thank you. Ive worked in the industry for a while now in the states and never heard of 4x profit. This video is absurd.
Doing your home work and working with a reputable dealership is enormously more practical then buy privately typically is today.
It’s too risky to buy used with medium- high mileage, especially from a private seller that I don’t know.
Like you mentioned, I rather buy a vehicle that’s a couple years old with low mileage at a dealership. People think the price sticker is finally, it’s not. If something happens, I have warranty and I am covered.
I agree, I worked briefly at a car dealership and generally the only trade ins they try to sell on their lot are clean, straight cars. if something about it looks questionable it gets sent to the auction. Of course, that's most new car dealerships- there are still some sleezy ones out there, you have to do your research.
I used to look on Craigslist for cars but gave up on it- sure, it's possible to get a good one from there but it's really loaded with scams, lots of what's called "curb stoning".
Scotty is gonna put car dealers out of business. I love you Scotty!
Great advice! I had my oil changed at the dealer.....and discovered that they had shorted the oil by 1 quart!! One of the reasons why I have no car.......
It's amazing how you can get through a whole video without taking a breath.
When speaking the truth words flow
hey he used to be a professional auctioneer....lmao..not
I figured out his secret. He cuts his video when we breathes
Tie his hands he wouldn’t be able to speak a word. LOL
Thank you for revealing secrets that car dealerships don’t want buyers to know. Great videos!!!
I sold on old Ford Explorer several years back from twice as much as what the dealers wanted to give me . Also I used to work with used car salesmen and Scotty is right.
Biggest ripoff at a dealership: the "doc fee," which is nothing more that additional dealer profit. Doc fees can be as much as $800, a TOTAL, COMPLETE RIPOFF!
You don't know how to negotiate price? Pretty Easy to get all that fluff taken off if they know they'll lose the deal
I always ask them to subtract the fees from the cars original price . Lol
They can negotiate the asking price on the car. Plus, the ONLY required extra fees on top of the purchase price are taxes and title. Every other fee is coming from the dealer and they do not have to charge it. Its negotiable.
In California the doc fee is only about $80 What state allows an $800 doc fee?
Brian Mead Brown a mfr in ATL just told me the other day their doc fee is &499 at a Benz dealership. FOH!
Private or dealer my number one rule I always get an outside mechanics opinion
Winston Rhock : where would one find a great honest mechanic? How do you go about asking them to check out a car for you at a dealership?
JORGE SANTIAGO ask to test drive and and ask if they mind if you take it to a mechanic for a “pre-purchase inspection”. Most dealerships and/or private sellers don’t mind.
@@HouseofJello but what mechanic will be readily open to check the car out right then and there and not without a days in advance appointment?
@@Electragirl5 The last used car I bought from a private party - I had them meet me at a local mechanic I trusted. He lifted it, spent about 10 minutes, and told me what I could expect to spend fixing it. The previous owner was right there with us, and I lowered my offer from $2000 to $1800, and the car ran great after replacing all the rotors and brake pads.
I've always been told to never buy new.. But after watching all these videos about used cars I think buying new is the safest option.. Especially the way people drive and treat their vehicles today..
it honestly depends on your research too tho. I bought a 2003 escape 8 years ago that lasted me 3 years (it was involved in a hit and run while I was asleep) and I gave it to my uncle and it still runs today. I then bought a used 2011 grand cherokee and have had nothing but routine maintenance on it for the past few years
This is so true! Just don’t go with dealerships. I went to a “trusted” 5-star-rated car dealership, and they were selling the van I wanted for an unusually low price. Got it checked out at a local mechanic, and he basically told me it’s trash, probably worth $1K. I just ate $250 to get it inspected, 🤦♀️🤦♀️
I wish Scotty was my mechanic! Or neighbor, friend, uncle...lol. Heck, I'd be happy if he just lived in my state!
I know right Donna me too!
Dont buy anything from Wallace Nissan in Kingsport Tn. They are rip offs.
Hey fellow kingsport guy! Dont go to chanzscott either on stone drive. They are fucked as well
Don’t go to Major World in Long Island City,NY Either
Don't ever buy a car from Joseph Buick GMC in Cincinnati, OH! Greedy, sleazy salespersons that try their best to RIP you off on your used car purchase.
Hakeem Sd70M just left Joseph Chevy on Colerain yesterday. Who were u dealing with and what happened??
@@cp3onmtv963 We actually bought our car from Joseph Chevrolet on Colerain from a lady who no longer works there named, named Angel. A great experience at Joseph Chevy. But we had issues with the Buick GMC dealership across the street as they GMC tried to shuck and Jive us into paying 200 a month for an '01 LeSabre with 171K miles.
sometimes it pays to fix your old car and keep it !
Yes. Cheaper to keep her. Just like marrage!
Every month you don't have to do anything to it is like putting at least $250+ in your pocket. That's how my Cross tour will be. I'll keep her till shes a pile of rust!
If you have a good one, and take care of it. I have a 94 Camry LE that we bot new. It is now our 3rd car. You would think a beater, but no. Mechanically sound with a good body & interior. I will drive it until it may get squshed.
If it's solid and reliable it make sense and cents ;) "Millionaire Next Door" approved
Yep, either trade up regularly, or drive it 'til it drops!
I don’t know or care about cars, but this old man is so likable, i could watch all day.
If you dont care about cars, then I'll take yours off your hands. You wont mind right? After all, you dont care...
Good video, with many great tips.
My only comment is, every business is in business to make money. That's the whole idea.
So the buyer has to be aware. Use your head, shop wisely.
Even buying from of the streets, you can still get burnt.
I know it's sad. You can really seriously get burnt at a used car dealership, I know I did once.
I will agree, always have a professional mechanic look at the car first. This rarely happens.
Good advice, but be careful with new cars too. 14 years back I was buying a new Chevy Impala and I asked to see the car once more before signing and handing over the check. Good thing I did since their dealer prep was to peel off the protective covers a just dry wipe the dirt and dust around. Scratched the nice new paint beyond repair, I walked!!!
But even private individuals won't tell you all the detail problems of a car they can lie to you just as easy what it boils down to is you got to really know something about cars before you buy them and look for yourself or any issues or on the Internet for reoccurring problems for that make and model
That's why it's best to have a mechanic give it a once over.
Duh not just any mechanic. Someone you really really really really really.......
Trust.
Or otherwise just research the tonne on the car using internet and as many other resources until you know everything that people can hide issues on.
Private individuals almost half the times lie about major problems. The used dealership can lie too. Bottom line is you gotta know what major things are damaged on the car off first sight.
What if the mechanic tells you not to buy then buys it himself lol
The difference between dealers and private sellers is:
Dealers are better at covering up issues.
Trust no-one!
I wish you could train an army of professionals just like yourself, Scotty! I have to buy a new used car pronto and I almost assume I'm going to be rooked one way or the other. My strategy is going to have to be cash as low as possible so when it dies I can just buy another one. That's life without a smart mechanic around!
I could listen to Scotty tell stories of people buying cars all day.
The guy I know once said: the worst kind of people I've been dealing with in my 50 years of life are car dealers and attorneys.
What do you do that is so honorable
@@paultannerwork he said he knew a guy!
@@tdubbdagreat1173 well hes as much of a jerkoff as the other guy for listening to him
V8AmericanMuscleCar Don’t forget funeral directors
@@paultannerwork someone works at a dealership?
If you're not knowledgeable about cars, take someone with you who is.
Why do you think they are selling the car? Because it is a lemon! If it is a good car, you drive it until the wheels fall off.
100% a MUST
What if you moved to another state alone though...?
LaObeja Negra then buying a car isn't your only problem.
@@dreamerweaver very helpful... Thanks.
If we obey every " Don't do this Don't do that " from Scotty we are not going to be able to buy a car at all
Yep
So glad I found this guy before I bought my son his first car..
Scotty tells it like it is!!!!
Go to the auctions...that’s what dealers do. Got my first car for £900 3 years ago still going
Did you buy a 94 Toyota Celica?
I was looking at a pickup the other day, carfax looked great - routine maintenance. The car looked and ran really well. Took it for a test drive and noticed some rubbing noise when I turned sharp. Took a look and the plastic around the wheel looked melted, took another look under the hood and noticed some burned wires and some brand new components. Also noticed a white powder, which tasted exactly like fire extinguisher material. Needless to say I passed on that one
This is 5 months late but...... why do you know what fire extinguisher materials taste like lol
Tasted???
@@atrevino95 he ate at a mexican restaurant
I normally taste white powder with my nose. But different strokes for different folks
Got my last two cars from private sellers and they were amazing. Every car I tested at dealerships consistently had outrageous flaws.