I enjoy thumbnails like these cuz they're funny, but I think I'd much rather see a more consistent branding done. I really like the "Macro/Micro Melee" color palette and font. It's easy on the eyes and I would very quickly be able to spot it in my feed (sometimes I miss videos from my favorite TH-camrs because their thumbnail just blends in too much). Plus, I think thumbnails in that style would be more indicative of the professionalism and effort you put into these videos!
Gino Valente back home now, so I actually plan on redoing my old thumbnails for a couple reasons (probably gonna do a patreon exclusive video explaining why) But I still wanna keep the branding for sure so I’ll work on it and hopefully find a good middle ground
I don’t know if you’re doing it on purpose, but I’m really glad you’re capitalizing on the release of slippi. There’s a whole lot of new players that need this type of smart content more than ever! Keep it up!!
Probably gonna do a video on this eventually but his grabs are actually good and falco's don't use them enough T___T. Literally like a bunch of players opting to never use rock because it "loses to paper" LOL
@@Radarssbm Are they though? Downthrow is a simple execution test, upthrow is super easy to DI in all sorts of directions because of the laser. Forward throw is good at the ledge but perhaps his worst grab outside of that situation. It's not really that Falco's grab is BAD, it's that in most situations when you could be grabbing you have better options. Like, why do a 29 frame grab with 6 frame startup for no followup when you can do a 3 frame shine with 1 frame startup with plenty of combo potential? Obvs there are situations like when grab is more useful, but even then.. you can shine out of shield, you can multishine a shielding player Too far away for you to shine but you can just about extend your combo with a grab? jab. laser. anything.
Falco’s grabs are good. They are obviously not as good as Fox/Marth/Sheik etc but they are still really really strong. I think you’re missing a couple key points. 1) people still miss the DI on throws and you can mix them up meaning Falco grabs work if you’re doing a good job of making it unpredictable. Your opponent can’t ever be 100% sure which grab you will do. 2) forward throw is good lol. If you have stage control you can set up tech chase scenarios as it knocks down past certain percents (mid 30s for fox for example). On the edge, it sets up edge guards and gimps and opens up a ton of follow up opportunities. It’s just straight up the best option in many scenarios. 3) most importantly grab hard counters shield. Even if you only got 10% and a tech chase every time you get a grab, that’s actually still really powerful because it means they either shield less (which opens up a ton of new opportunities) or commit to getting grabbed often, which is bad for them because it will eventually lead to big follow ups). I’ll probably do a full video on this eventually but if you just let your opponent get away with shielding for free, that gives them a HUGE edge. While things like shine/aerial shield pressure can be really strong on shield, they essentially rely on mixups to succeed assuming you don’t get a shield poke. By grabbing, you add another layer to your mixup game, which makes it even harder for your opponent to deal with it. Mixups get way easier to deal with if your opponent only has to predict a couple options. Falco’s grabs aren’t unstoppable, but if you don’t use them you’re basically letting your opponent get away with shielding for free. And let’s be real, most of us don’t have frame perfect multi shine pressure, and even if we did, grabs would still be useful in certain situations
@@Radarssbm I agree that it's a good mixup and I also agree that it's much, much easier to execute a grab than a multishine so if your opponent is shielding constantly obviously the play is to grab them
Again it’s not always gonna be the best option but it can be hella strong in certain situations, especially with marth. Zain does it all the time though
FirePuff12 I wrote it but it’s not released yet! Gonna have to wait until I release “Brain Breaks 2” but check out my Spotify link in the description to listen to my first album
Kind of good that you can multi-grab characters like Fox even though it sucks for Fox players because he's literally the best in the game. So I'm glad something exists that he's bad at
Thanks for making this type of content. Have you considered doing a video on how to set up UnclePunch's Training Mode? I've looked into it a bit on my own but I haven't had the time to figure it all out. I'm sure other new players would also appreciate it.
Changed the channel name as people started calling me "Micro Melee" when that's just the name of one of my series lol. Which is totally understandable, but i went with Radar, which has always been my tag!
open.spotify.com/album/5ctEuSmiIk82TQZcw1ES2y?si=dU1wdcSERt6I_rydG5cl2Q Try this! I updated the description, not sure why Spotify does that..but hopefully it works now. You can check out the album by searching "Radar Pressed Record" as well!
Aiden Jacobsen I actually know this as a former puff main, but it’s such an obscure piece of information that I eventually fell on the side of just omitting that tidbit of info because it’s probably more confusing than helpful to newer players, and this video is specifically targeted to them. Way easier to remember “you can SDI grabs” than it is to remember “there’s one weird exception”
Grabbing someone on hits on his crazy because it's not something you can necessarily do all the time in Street Fighter. Matter of fact I think it's specifically against the rules in the code.
Gerardo Chavez first song is called “Micro Melee” from my first album, which you can find a link in the description. Second song is actually a work in progress so I’m not even finished it yet loooool. Working on a second album and when it’s out I’ll announce it
Wasn’t sure what the setups were for Pikachu but I’m sure there are some! Some people have already discussed in comments but yeah I just am one person I only know so much lol
No puff 2/10 No but seriously this video has thought me a lot. I have a huge habit of only shield grabbing, and I've never really took the time to consider hitstun as my gateway to getting more grabs. Thank you!
You’re welcome! I actually chose not to include Puff clips because in the majority of situations, opting for a rest is just straight up better than a grab. There are a few niche situations where it would be better, but realistically up-air, up-tilt, fair, bair, up-Smash, are usually better anyway
This is also one of those WTF-moments if you just play more traditional fighting games, grabbing hitstunnned and ungrounded characters is so unintuitive.
If falco's grabs are bad, how is he supposed to deal with shields in nuetral? Just shield pressure and try to force an option out of the opponent? I shine grab a lot in responce to shields but always struggled to do much with the grabs afterwards. Does this mean I'm better off pressuring as opposed to grabbing?
Woah woah, I never said falco's grabs are bad dude. I deliberately said that Falco's grabs are good and I don't wanna contribute to the myth that Falco's grabs are bad. Falco's grabs just aren't as good at extending combos compared to his other options. A more simple way to think about it is "Falco's grabs are great in neutral, but not so great in the punish game" Whereas Fox's grabs are good in both. Make sense? Don't stop shine grabbing, it's broken!!! But learn when and where it's the right time to use it as there are other pressure options and you wanna make sure to mix it up!
@RadarSSBM thanks for the reply, I shouldve listened a bit more closely to how you worded it. (I'm guilty of missing details when its linguistic) I'll think I'll start paying attention to what factors effect the effectiveness of falcos grab as a punish. I imagine stage position, percent, match-up, and even shield size all change whether its better to shine->shield pressure or shine->grab. Thank you for your videos btw, they've helped me a bunch
Puff can nair grab and drill grab in neutral and she can do many many regrab setups. I chose to include none of them because I think it would only confuse players. In the majority of those situations (at least in my opinion as someone who used to main Puff, I absolutely could be wrong) Puff is similar to Falco in that her other options are usually better. Specifically, a lot of times if you can Regrab, you can rest. You also can up-air/up-tilt etc which set up rests and edge guards. There are still some situations where it’s ideal, but again, I didn’t wanna confuse Puff players
thecrimsonpixel definitely work on implementing drill grab at lower percents and drill up-smash at higher percents as both are good kill setups. Nair needs to be auto cancelled to work as a grab setup so you need to time the aerial at a certain height for that to work. Hope that’s helpful
I had a single clip of doc and was like "is this even good? I honestly don't know so I won't include it" haha. I'm just not very familiar with the character!
Went with a bit of a different style on the thumbnail, let me know what you guys think! Also lemme know if you liked the music too! See ya next week!
I personally think it's great, it isn't "clickbait" but it still entices people to click on the video. Excellent work as always!
I enjoy thumbnails like these cuz they're funny, but I think I'd much rather see a more consistent branding done. I really like the "Macro/Micro Melee" color palette and font. It's easy on the eyes and I would very quickly be able to spot it in my feed (sometimes I miss videos from my favorite TH-camrs because their thumbnail just blends in too much). Plus, I think thumbnails in that style would be more indicative of the professionalism and effort you put into these videos!
Gino Valente Yeah I forgot to add the macro melee badge, gonna do that when I get home
Gino Valente back home now, so I actually plan on redoing my old thumbnails for a couple reasons (probably gonna do a patreon exclusive video explaining why)
But I still wanna keep the branding for sure so I’ll work on it and hopefully find a good middle ground
I like the thumbnail! It’s comedic and reminds me of AsumSaus’ thumbnails
I don’t know if you’re doing it on purpose, but I’m really glad you’re capitalizing on the release of slippi. There’s a whole lot of new players that need this type of smart content more than ever! Keep it up!!
Yup! I prioritized more beginner friendly videos to help players getting started, but I’ll be doing some more advanced stuff in the future!
It's worth mentioning tether grabs like samus link and young link cannot connect if your opponent is in the air.
the music was great. also i had just been picking up on this after 2+ years of playing! list of setups is very useful.
Great video as always! Also, I really enjoy the thumbnail, it caught my attention very effectively while scrolling through my TH-cam feed.
Bruh falco can grab??
Probably gonna do a video on this eventually but his grabs are actually good and falco's don't use them enough T___T. Literally like a bunch of players opting to never use rock because it "loses to paper" LOL
It's called dair shine
@@Radarssbm Are they though? Downthrow is a simple execution test, upthrow is super easy to DI in all sorts of directions because of the laser. Forward throw is good at the ledge but perhaps his worst grab outside of that situation.
It's not really that Falco's grab is BAD, it's that in most situations when you could be grabbing you have better options. Like, why do a 29 frame grab with 6 frame startup for no followup when you can do a 3 frame shine with 1 frame startup with plenty of combo potential? Obvs there are situations like when grab is more useful, but even then.. you can shine out of shield, you can multishine a shielding player
Too far away for you to shine but you can just about extend your combo with a grab? jab. laser. anything.
Falco’s grabs are good. They are obviously not as good as Fox/Marth/Sheik etc but they are still really really strong. I think you’re missing a couple key points.
1) people still miss the DI on throws and you can mix them up meaning Falco grabs work if you’re doing a good job of making it unpredictable. Your opponent can’t ever be 100% sure which grab you will do.
2) forward throw is good lol. If you have stage control you can set up tech chase scenarios as it knocks down past certain percents (mid 30s for fox for example). On the edge, it sets up edge guards and gimps and opens up a ton of follow up opportunities. It’s just straight up the best option in many scenarios.
3) most importantly grab hard counters shield. Even if you only got 10% and a tech chase every time you get a grab, that’s actually still really powerful because it means they either shield less (which opens up a ton of new opportunities) or commit to getting grabbed often, which is bad for them because it will eventually lead to big follow ups).
I’ll probably do a full video on this eventually but if you just let your opponent get away with shielding for free, that gives them a HUGE edge. While things like shine/aerial shield pressure can be really strong on shield, they essentially rely on mixups to succeed assuming you don’t get a shield poke. By grabbing, you add another layer to your mixup game, which makes it even harder for your opponent to deal with it. Mixups get way easier to deal with if your opponent only has to predict a couple options.
Falco’s grabs aren’t unstoppable, but if you don’t use them you’re basically letting your opponent get away with shielding for free. And let’s be real, most of us don’t have frame perfect multi shine pressure, and even if we did, grabs would still be useful in certain situations
@@Radarssbm I agree that it's a good mixup and I also agree that it's much, much easier to execute a grab than a multishine so if your opponent is shielding constantly obviously the play is to grab them
Great stuff as always, man.
So happy to see you included Mewtwo
Love ur informative videos dude. It reminds me of turndownforwalts Frame Data series. I just love the intricacies melee has to offer
Love the music, Radar! Keep up the great work :)
Your videos are sick af man. Love the color usage in your stuff too! The Melee community is lucky to have you!!!
Didn't listen to a word because that electric piano was tasty
pika up air gets these kinds of grabs at low %, usually off a crossup or oos as these are most likely to hit the early "pop-up" hitbox
Funny thing, I always did this intuitively with Marth but thought that I overdid it because I've never seen other players do it often.
Again it’s not always gonna be the best option but it can be hella strong in certain situations, especially with marth. Zain does it all the time though
i think you could have included puff cause her nair, early percent fair or dair can lead easily into grabs.
love your stuff michael
great vod! also roy can get grabs from up smash at low percents, and dash attack, reverse up tilt, and reverse up air at mid to high percents too
yuiz nerd vod? Its a video man
@@stayontrack maybe he just typod, i and o are next to each other on the keyboard
Love this type of content man, hope to see it continue!!
awesome content man :D as a Marth main, his game basically revolves around grabs so dis was rlly helpful!!
Very well made video. And great concept to think about!
That's funny, I was like damn I like that background music. Good job if you made it!
Mike B yeah I make all the music in my videos haha, glad to hear you liked it!
That thumbnail is godlike lmao!
really usefull for a new sheik main
Great video! Really liked the 2nd song, can you tell me the name
FirePuff12 I wrote it but it’s not released yet! Gonna have to wait until I release “Brain Breaks 2” but check out my Spotify link in the description to listen to my first album
@@Radarssbm oh wow! I look forward to that then
another awesome video!
Saw the title and thought it said "Way to Get more Crabs"
Which, y'know... is pretty easy..
Just be HBox
At work atm so I can't watch just yet, but I'm popping in to say I love the thumbnail lmao. It's perfect
thumbnail game on point recently
Good music!
Kind of good that you can multi-grab characters like Fox even though it sucks for Fox players because he's literally the best in the game.
So I'm glad something exists that he's bad at
Cries in Young Link
underrated thumbnail
*Mains Samus*
Clicks Video
All the Marth mains clicked instantly
Love your vids! One suggestion, could you record the gameplay in 60 FPS? Melee looks choppy and sluggish when it's not.
Hmm, it is recorded at 60fps...not sure why it's looking choppy!
Fair grab is the fairest way to get a grab
Daniel Garcia the “u” in “u-air” stands for “unfair”
Only commented to say incredible thumbnail
Sick music!
I play Link and Samus 😭
I am conscious of this though when playing around with Falcon, just bad at it.
I thought it was common and I just suck.
What action overlay is it to make yourself glow during hitlag? I can’t find it
I would not recommend using Marth's up tilt in neutral game against Fox unless Fox is already above you
Agreed in most situations but to be fairs he’s above you a lot. Up-tilt might not have been the perfect example, fair may have been better
Thanks for making this type of content. Have you considered doing a video on how to set up UnclePunch's Training Mode? I've looked into it a bit on my own but I haven't had the time to figure it all out. I'm sure other new players would also appreciate it.
great idea, ive been trying to set it up for a while now
Yeah I’m planning on doing that! Might do it next week or the week after!
@@Radarssbm Thanks man! Your work is much appreciated.
What build do you use to get that information on top of the players percentage?
Mewtwo has a dash attack? Totally forgot
When did u rebrand from micromelee?
Changed the channel name as people started calling me "Micro Melee" when that's just the name of one of my series lol. Which is totally understandable, but i went with Radar, which has always been my tag!
Song is dope, but the album link doesn't work for me - link anyone?
open.spotify.com/album/5ctEuSmiIk82TQZcw1ES2y?si=dU1wdcSERt6I_rydG5cl2Q
Try this! I updated the description, not sure why Spotify does that..but hopefully it works now. You can check out the album by searching "Radar Pressed Record" as well!
*cries in Samus main*
Imagine melee without grab.
It would be kinda like Rivals of Aether
You can SDI puffs fthrow.
Aiden Jacobsen I actually know this as a former puff main, but it’s such an obscure piece of information that I eventually fell on the side of just omitting that tidbit of info because it’s probably more confusing than helpful to newer players, and this video is specifically targeted to them.
Way easier to remember “you can SDI grabs” than it is to remember “there’s one weird exception”
Grabbing someone on hits on his crazy because it's not something you can necessarily do all the time in Street Fighter. Matter of fact I think it's specifically against the rules in the code.
D-Tilt
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Q: How to get more grabs in Melee?
A: Play Marth.
Aka a list of moves i need to avoid getting hit by on fd MonkaS
Ngl this pika main was sad to see DK after ICs
Name of the song?
Gerardo Chavez first song is called “Micro Melee” from my first album, which you can find a link in the description.
Second song is actually a work in progress so I’m not even finished it yet loooool. Working on a second album and when it’s out I’ll announce it
no falcon???
Why am I getting multiple comments like this? What 05:26 to like 05:45 is all falcon clips lol. Watch the full video...
no pikachu?
Wasn’t sure what the setups were for Pikachu but I’m sure there are some! Some people have already discussed in comments but yeah I just am one person I only know so much lol
No puff 2/10
No but seriously this video has thought me a lot. I have a huge habit of only shield grabbing, and I've never really took the time to consider hitstun as my gateway to getting more grabs. Thank you!
You’re welcome! I actually chose not to include Puff clips because in the majority of situations, opting for a rest is just straight up better than a grab. There are a few niche situations where it would be better, but realistically up-air, up-tilt, fair, bair, up-Smash, are usually better anyway
This is also one of those WTF-moments if you just play more traditional fighting games, grabbing hitstunnned and ungrounded characters is so unintuitive.
Dude wtf I watch your stuff all the time but I wasn't subbed. Good think you said that!
If falco's grabs are bad, how is he supposed to deal with shields in nuetral? Just shield pressure and try to force an option out of the opponent?
I shine grab a lot in responce to shields but always struggled to do much with the grabs afterwards. Does this mean I'm better off pressuring as opposed to grabbing?
Woah woah, I never said falco's grabs are bad dude. I deliberately said that Falco's grabs are good and I don't wanna contribute to the myth that Falco's grabs are bad.
Falco's grabs just aren't as good at extending combos compared to his other options. A more simple way to think about it is "Falco's grabs are great in neutral, but not so great in the punish game"
Whereas Fox's grabs are good in both. Make sense? Don't stop shine grabbing, it's broken!!! But learn when and where it's the right time to use it as there are other pressure options and you wanna make sure to mix it up!
@RadarSSBM thanks for the reply, I shouldve listened a bit more closely to how you worded it. (I'm guilty of missing details when its linguistic)
I'll think I'll start paying attention to what factors effect the effectiveness of falcos grab as a punish. I imagine stage position, percent, match-up, and even shield size all change whether its better to shine->shield pressure or shine->grab.
Thank you for your videos btw, they've helped me a bunch
Puff can do nair grab but i think thats it 😔
Puff can nair grab and drill grab in neutral and she can do many many regrab setups. I chose to include none of them because I think it would only confuse players.
In the majority of those situations (at least in my opinion as someone who used to main Puff, I absolutely could be wrong) Puff is similar to Falco in that her other options are usually better.
Specifically, a lot of times if you can Regrab, you can rest. You also can up-air/up-tilt etc which set up rests and edge guards. There are still some situations where it’s ideal, but again, I didn’t wanna confuse Puff players
@@Radarssbm thanks for the info! I'm always looking for new puff tech that I can learn & implement
thecrimsonpixel definitely work on implementing drill grab at lower percents and drill up-smash at higher percents as both are good kill setups. Nair needs to be auto cancelled to work as a grab setup so you need to time the aerial at a certain height for that to work. Hope that’s helpful
wait, does this mean link and young link are actually really good?
nah
Tether grabs cannot grab aerial opponents
@@Faulheit but they can chaingrab every character in the game lol
im insulted that he showed clips of DK, Mewtwo, and Roy, but not my boi Doc
I had a single clip of doc and was like "is this even good? I honestly don't know so I won't include it" haha. I'm just not very familiar with the character!
@@Radarssbm haha np. nice video dude.
Why ics grabs n not falcon grabs ): unsub
What lol? There’s multiple falcon clips...did you watch the full video LOL
@@Radarssbm ( ; jk ! Watched all thx for the amazing content
lmao falco grab sucks
No lol
why